>switch from SATA SSD to NVME SSD
>gaming performance is pretty much exactly the same
did I get meme'd? its supposed to be like 10x faster but all my load times in all my games are identical
>switch from SATA SSD to NVME SSD. >gaming performance is pretty much exactly the same
Games just aren't built to take advantage of faster speeds yet, sata is more than enough
Yes, you got memed. The performance jump from HDD to SSD is huge but the jump from SATA to NVME is miniscule. Main benefits of NVME is convenience of having the drive right on your motherboard and (slightly) faster read/write times for very large files.
Hope you didn't stick the nvme in slot 1.
I got something I can stick in your slot 1
i guess it's the seek time that's more important than raw throughput
I notice better boot times, but generally load times for vidya's good.
I hear rendering is way faster though.
>spend $636 plus tip for 4070 super
>put it in my old rig
>oh this is a nice upgrade for pcvr from a 1070
>tear apart old rig and build a 7800X3D system with the new gpu
>wow that wasn't worth $1200
Yes you got meme'd. People don't understand what sequential read/writes are but companies understand they can market the speeds to gamers and they'll buy it because bigger number better.
if you aren't a professional you probably won't see any benefit from nvme other than less cables
but they're cheap enough that it doesn't really matter
Now if only prices would go down in the EU, they've basically stagnated for 4 years
>they're cheap enough that it doesn't really matter
>price is literally double what it was last fall and still forecasted to keep rising
well yes prices are going up, but I mean in comparison to SATA drives, on Amazon the cheapest 2TB SATA on the first page is $100 and the cheapest 2TB NVMe is $105. 870 EVO is $180 and 990 EVO is $150, so in some cases NVMe is cheaper due to market forces
You're still being limited by RAM and CPU speeds.
Booting up Windows in less than 10 seconds is cathartic as frick.
yeah you got memed, but at least you have fewer cables snaking around in your case.
You didn't get meme'd, you just misunderstood what that extra speed is for. Games rely mainly on RANDOM speeds not sequential and random reads and writes are pretty much the same between nvme and sata.
>You didn't get meme'd. You got bamboozled.
???
This. That speed is accurate for the right application but gaming isn't one of them.
Yes I had the same feeling.
The advantage of SSDs is in the underlying technology (flash memory) which allows fast random read/write, not in the interface (M.2 vs SATA), their performance is practically the same due to this for games. High sequential speeds do not actually offer you much in gaining performance (for now?). M.2 also has the issue of having hot drives and/or being near hot positions which causes them to fail more often and easier.
Optane died for your sins.
>and/or being near hot positions
>m.2 slot is on the backside of the CPU socket
who the FRICK approved this
homie we TOLD you that you wouldn't notice a difference but you chose to listen to the shills instead
Why are SATA and NVMe prices similar or at least comparable? They seem even closer at 1TB. I know there's stuff to take into consideration like the controllers and whatever, but I'd have thought that SATA would be way cheaper than NVMe or NVMe would be way more expensive than SATA.
Because the expensive part is the NAND flash and that's equally expensive no matter what you put it in.
Motherboard with more than 1 NVME slot isn't common on last gen socket.
I have a b550 board with 2 but I think only the top one is PCIE4, haven't seen any with more than that on AM4 but they're probably out there.
Yes, you're a fricking idiot.
Also, depending on what motherboard you have, it might have took some speed from your GPU
this won't change until microsoft fixes gpu decompression in directstorage so more games can start using it
diminishing returns nibba, applies to almost everything.
now I can't use a HDD on any machine tho.
and old computers can be revived by replacing the hdd with a cheap ssd + getting at least 8gb ram
>I should upgrade my graphics card
>but I should get a better chip too
>if I'm going to swap chips, I might as well get a new mobo and ram sticks
>gonna need a new power supply too
>I should build
I should build.
you should build anon!
dont know i switched so i could have less wires running in my tower never really looks at performance
I didn't switch. I went from HDD straight to NVME after waitCHAD for a decade.
It's amazing.
Yeah I was shocked at how little difference there was. That's why I use my 4TB SATA for gaming and NVME just for my OS and programs.
>buy small sized m.2 nvme ssd for OS something about 256GB / 512 GB oughta do the trick
>use any SSD for games
Point is. Games are mostly reading. And it seems that SATAIII 600MB/s is pretty fricking fast for games, that NVMe doesn't give it any gains in that matter.
OS though. It's pretty fricking neat as it does frickton of R/W operations.
>Games are mostly reading
Even then to a point it is only the initial loading that make a difference in modern engines and titles. Beyond that have more ram (and vram) matters as the games will cache what they can as that is orders of magnitude faster than hitting the disk.
m$ must be charging big bucks directstorage because I only know of one game that uses it and it was shit
get a smaller nvme and put your OS on it. slave a 2TB ssd and put files on it. simple as
SATA ssd's are effectively a dead end now - the nand can vastly outpace the connection itself so we'll start (more than now) seeing all the shit bins being slapped onto sata drives. Capacity will climb roughly in line with nvme drives but the cost savings just won't be there.
Too bad i only have 2 nvme slots on my b450 mobo, and one has windows on the 256gb ssd. Replacing it would require reinstalling windows, or making a partion to clone onto and meh. I got a 5800X3D for real cheap (269) + sold my 5600x for a 100, otherwise i would've gone to b6xxx and 7xxx ryzen.
you say that like reinstalling windows is hard
Its not but reinstalling all the programs I got for animation work is a pain in the dick, especially with some not saving shortcuts.
I got one 1tb nvme one for games and i still got 600gb free so i think i can hold out for a while. Plus got 2 regular ssds for everything else
so so splurge one week and get a 4TB NVMe
The difference between max read/write and random read/write is still huge.
I have only 2 slots too so I went with 2x 2TB nvme which is a very nice amount. Didn't have to bring over my 500GB SATA from my old build.
Use a Bootable Linux distro to clone your windows drive if you really want
The only game with real difference between nvme and sata ssds is ratchet and clank, but even there its literally a second big.
It's not really good for vidya, it speeds up booting and general use by a lot. I just have a 500gb nvme for OS and some games and a 1tb 2,5 ssd for also games
>nvme slot is under the gpu and is obnoxiously finicky to attach/detach on top of that
Fricking annoying
My last mobo had several SATA connections blocked by my GPU. Ran out of storage space upgrades due to that shit. At least m2 storage can fit under a card.
>stargate Atlantis intro in yo face
>only 1 pcie gen nvme slot
Annoying, but on the other hand i've had this mobo since 2017 and with a 5800X3D now living in it i'll probably not upgrade for another generation or two so eh, i'll have gotten my money out of it and can live with this "limitation". I just hope getting 6-8 sata ports for zen 5 or 6 doesn't require ludicrously expensive motherboards as hoarding all my pirated vidya on chonky HDDs is important.
At least my relatively cheap AM5 board has 6 SATA ports so they shouldn't be hard to find
Most am5 boards only have 4.
Not a big deal. 4000D clone case couldn't fit more than 4 SATA drives anyway.
>can see videos of differences on YouTube
>did I get memed???
Maybe do some research?
I want cables to be phased out COMPLETELY.
NO NZXT, FRICK OFF
If they are all gonna be like USB 3 and the 12pin Nvidia connector then yeah I agree
16pin now sucka
I don't think I really noticed a difference in performance, I just like that I don't have a bunch of wires I need to route now. Nice and tidy.
Same. Bought a new PC to replace my old PC. I've noticed very little for gaming. The only games I noticed a difference in are the poorly optimized ones. Outside of that I don't think I'll ever be buying a mid range, but top of the line prices, pc again. If my low level PC from years back played most things fine for me, then I have no reason to pay about double.