Because gachas are designed with a lifespan. It takes a RIDICULOUS success for a gacha to stick around aka have dedicated manpower working on it rather than developing a new gacha instead.
Because gacha players are gambling addicts that don't know when to stop. S-E make a gacha game, extract money from addicts, kill it and replace it with another one and repeat
I am never going to understand gacha. The name of the genre implies predatory economic manipulation and people still line up to willingly participate. I might be too much of a boomer to get it but the entire concept comes across as actual exploitation.
But you can get dopamine rushes from so many things that don't need reoccurring payments. Traditional purchase-once video games for example. Frick, play trash like vampire Survivor and it'll hack your brain into feeling good.
Anon... It's from gashapon. It's literally just the sound the machine made when you turn the handle and the prize dropped.
If you were an actual boomer you would've seen those machines everywhere at grocery stores and malls.
dopamine rush. that's basically it. people live such unfulfilling lives that any rush they can get is worth paying for.
You're both talking about things you don't understand, most modern gacha games are created in such a way that normal people don't need at all to spend money on them, but also so that autists and all kinds of other mentally vulnerable people are coerced into spending all their money on them
I have been playing numerous gacha games all my life and i have never spent a dime on them
Some of these games have great gameplay, great art/design, great music, great story, etc. To name just one game the Octopath Traveler gacha is literally just a normal console game that you can play from start to end without spending a cent on it without any kind of limit or impediment, gacha is entirely optional
>coerced
I never really got this argument. Are these people simpletons or something? At some point an actual adult needs to decide what's good or bad for him. No one holds them at gunpoint to participate in these gacha games.
Like i said: >autists >mentally vulnerable people
That's the kind of people who spend money on gachas, a normal well balanced person will see a gacha quite simply as a free game. The days of gacha games being just this
Bright lights, happy sounds, lots of stars, high ranks, good grades combined with partial nudity from pretty girls who would in real life want nothing to do with you. The brain is a complex organ, but it turns out its not hard to hack out some happiness if the right buttons are pushed.
are long gone, modern gachas are pretty much just free full games that could be (and sometimes are) on consoles/PC
3 months ago
Anonymous
>To name just one game the Octopath Traveler gacha is literally just a normal console game that you can play from start to end without spending a cent on it without any kind of limit or impediment, gacha is entirely optional
really? I've totally avoided that one.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes and that's pretty much every gacha game now. The days of gacha games having "energy" that runs out after a few minutes and you have to do a microtransaction to get more in order to continue are long gone. Any modern gacha you can play from start to finish with the free characters they give
This is what a modern gacha looks like
>coerced
I never really got this argument. Are these people simpletons or something? At some point an actual adult needs to decide what's good or bad for him. No one holds them at gunpoint to participate in these gacha games.
A lot people live boring/shit lives, and that goes double in Japan. Have you seen their suicide rates?
Even grown-ass adults will pay for a dopamine and consider it a good decision even if it is incredibly sad from an outsiders perspective.
Bright lights, happy sounds, lots of stars, high ranks, good grades combined with partial nudity from pretty girls who would in real life want nothing to do with you. The brain is a complex organ, but it turns out its not hard to hack out some happiness if the right buttons are pushed.
Their idea to have a "franchise within a franchise" like with FF7 utterly failed. Hell, they barely got FF15 out and thought spreading outs its story to an anime and CG movie was a good idea.
>Hell, they barely got FF15 out and thought spreading outs its story to an anime and CG movie was a good idea.
These two go hand in hand. When you're deep enough in development hell and have a hard deadline, it's easier to scale back the scope and just throw money at somebody else to depict the integral story events that won't get finished.
Type Next never ever.
Barry!
I apologize.
I have no idea how square-enix is still in business
Me neither. Millions line up to buy objectively worse products than those that came before and I don't understand it.
If you look at their quarterlies their gacha division brings in more than twice the revenue of their other divisions.
Then why do so many of their gachas die every year?
Because gachas are designed with a lifespan. It takes a RIDICULOUS success for a gacha to stick around aka have dedicated manpower working on it rather than developing a new gacha instead.
Because gacha players are gambling addicts that don't know when to stop. S-E make a gacha game, extract money from addicts, kill it and replace it with another one and repeat
Most of the money comes in from the hype of a new release so the grift is designed to be supported in the short term
I am never going to understand gacha. The name of the genre implies predatory economic manipulation and people still line up to willingly participate. I might be too much of a boomer to get it but the entire concept comes across as actual exploitation.
dopamine rush. that's basically it. people live such unfulfilling lives that any rush they can get is worth paying for.
But you can get dopamine rushes from so many things that don't need reoccurring payments. Traditional purchase-once video games for example. Frick, play trash like vampire Survivor and it'll hack your brain into feeling good.
Anon... It's from gashapon. It's literally just the sound the machine made when you turn the handle and the prize dropped.
If you were an actual boomer you would've seen those machines everywhere at grocery stores and malls.
You're both talking about things you don't understand, most modern gacha games are created in such a way that normal people don't need at all to spend money on them, but also so that autists and all kinds of other mentally vulnerable people are coerced into spending all their money on them
I have been playing numerous gacha games all my life and i have never spent a dime on them
So what's the point? Collect PNGs of bikini girls for dopamine?
I'm asking as an actual outsider here, I've never touched a single one.
Some of these games have great gameplay, great art/design, great music, great story, etc. To name just one game the Octopath Traveler gacha is literally just a normal console game that you can play from start to end without spending a cent on it without any kind of limit or impediment, gacha is entirely optional
Like i said:
>autists
>mentally vulnerable people
That's the kind of people who spend money on gachas, a normal well balanced person will see a gacha quite simply as a free game. The days of gacha games being just this
are long gone, modern gachas are pretty much just free full games that could be (and sometimes are) on consoles/PC
>To name just one game the Octopath Traveler gacha is literally just a normal console game that you can play from start to end without spending a cent on it without any kind of limit or impediment, gacha is entirely optional
really? I've totally avoided that one.
Yes and that's pretty much every gacha game now. The days of gacha games having "energy" that runs out after a few minutes and you have to do a microtransaction to get more in order to continue are long gone. Any modern gacha you can play from start to finish with the free characters they give
This is what a modern gacha looks like
>coerced
I never really got this argument. Are these people simpletons or something? At some point an actual adult needs to decide what's good or bad for him. No one holds them at gunpoint to participate in these gacha games.
A lot people live boring/shit lives, and that goes double in Japan. Have you seen their suicide rates?
Even grown-ass adults will pay for a dopamine and consider it a good decision even if it is incredibly sad from an outsiders perspective.
Bright lights, happy sounds, lots of stars, high ranks, good grades combined with partial nudity from pretty girls who would in real life want nothing to do with you. The brain is a complex organ, but it turns out its not hard to hack out some happiness if the right buttons are pushed.
because you get the connotations and discussion surrounding gacha. most of these people don't. same with older people playing pachinko.
Gamer brains have no business acumen
Did they quit or what? Type-0 was a very good game
By the time it had become "Type-0" the Agito XIII project was already deemed a failure.
Their idea to have a "franchise within a franchise" like with FF7 utterly failed. Hell, they barely got FF15 out and thought spreading outs its story to an anime and CG movie was a good idea.
>Hell, they barely got FF15 out and thought spreading outs its story to an anime and CG movie was a good idea.
These two go hand in hand. When you're deep enough in development hell and have a hard deadline, it's easier to scale back the scope and just throw money at somebody else to depict the integral story events that won't get finished.
it was good but restricted by the psp hardware
you say this but it was released on other platforms with less features
on the psp it has an "invasion" co-op type thing
the levels and zones are so small because of the psp
Thank you for killing our studio!
Barrychad status?
Tabata left the company to work on his new investor scam game
Sounds like ludokino, as expected of Tabata the GOAT
just like the time he went into NFTs and "the metaverse"
>ai solutions
>quantum computing
>pegasus world kit
kek
INSHALLAH
Type-0 was unironically kino
>the worst game and the one that nobody knows about
ffxv is still the greatest modern jrpg
I 'MEMBER