>Tell courier to do their job
>they do their job
>as a reward for literally just doing their job, invite them to live with you and become your second in command(they may or may not have killed the last one, in public even)
Huh?
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The mark of an effective leader is knowing when someone is worth hiring before someone else figures it out.
The Courier was legit just bait.
he doesn't want to make a big scene with taking benny out, so he hires the guy coming back for revenge to take care of it and probably has more of an attachment to the assignment than a rando
>he doesn't want to make a big scene with taking benny out, so he hires the guy coming back for revenge to take care of it
And expects them to not make a big scene about it?
it wouldn't be one of the big bad robots so it's better
It would still be killing a guy in the middle of a public place
that's fallout we are talking about, this happens every day
A smart business man would figure out how to spin it into a positive situation. Simply going “The guy who killed Benny is a personal enforcer of mine and killed him for attempted murder and trying to betray me me/frick over the strip” would probably make the common man shrug and go back to what they were doing and make his competitors think twice if they know he has a pet psychopath that ate a bullet to the gray matter and came back for round 2
9/10 times I kill Benny before getting to the L38.
Same
House using his robots to kill benny would be a breach in contract, but there's no such stipulations for an angry mailman killing benny
Which do you guys prefer, shutting down the cerebral network system and putting him back in the tube or just murdering him?
I don't hate him that much to trap him in a coffin until he succumbs to diseases
it's just business, I simply put him out of his misery
Putting him back in the tube just seems way too cruel tbh
Anybody who didn't kill him after that was just evil tbh.
Left him out to dry.
Gotta eat him to unlock the secret perk.
House is the only character in the entire game where it's funnier to not kill him with my bare hands.
>the only character in the entire game where it's funnier to not kill
>he doesn't want elijah's 24 hour seethe radio
That homie should have let go.
Not taking any changes with the old man
Plus, he deserves to get beaten to death by my own hands
Golf club
don't usually kill him tbh. BoS are gays and my characters are mercs who just want to eat, frick, and shoot people.
Interests just happen to align, I guess.
I didn't even know that was an option, I just bashed his face in with a baseball bat everytime(i never put points in melee)
I always side with House because he's the only non-moron faction leader.
>Release him from the machine
>Instant karma drop even with the jsawyer mod
Does that mean Mr House is not a bad person?
House is Neutral
House is good. He can run an economy, what expands economical life is good to rebuild civilization also House knows how much better Earth was in the past, he was alive back then so he cant be a nihilistic homosexual that just doesnt care, if only you knew how good things were but wastelander gays dont thats why they are cut throat pieces of shit.
I'm talking about his Karma you moron
He's set to Neutral Karma
how the frick was I going to know anyway who gives a frick about karma
>Which do you guys prefer
After my first playthrough I don’t even do any house missions. I run in, blow up the securitrons and shoot house in the head
Shoot the tube with a missile launcher the instant after I open it
he gets the club every time for that sweet XP. though he's the best faction so usually i'm not killing him at all and the chamber sterilization option is just boring.
the job includes traveling the wasteland, tracking down a guy that shoot you in the head, infiltrating a military camp and installing an upgrade for his robot army and finally stepping into the front lines of a war and killing or making political enemies flee. I would say all of that is way above the average mailman's paygrade.
He's controlling Victor and watching you do your stuff. He knows you're worth hiring.
If house is controlling Victor who is controlling Victors gf?
Marilyn
He's more desperate than he lets on. He needs an actual human to go out and execute some of his plans but he knows that the Chairman and Omertas are plotting against him and can't be trusted with anything important and the White Gloves are freaks unsuited for actual combat.
Suddenly, a decently competent freelancer shows up and he has to take a chance on him.
I mean, what would you do in his shoes? The courier is his lady luck if the courier sides with him. He makes his whole scheme possible again.
Your completion of the job IS quite exceptional even if you just somehow make a B-Line to New Vegas without accomplishing anything else, you came back from the dead just to say "sorry your package could not be delivered" and then you go onto reclaim it anyways. House is very much of the Great Man theory that loves the ideas of a person with a good story just constantly adding onto that and he definitely sees himself of that ilk. Why wouldn't he want you in his entourage?
>when you explain why you manipulated a sniper into killing an innocent person "for laughs" in Novac
Virgin Mr. H
Chad Ouse
>kills freeside,westside,bos,kings,followers OTA,fricks over vault21 and NCR citizens
>"b-but he's le hecking epic science man!!! colonize le space!!! authoritarian technocrats are epic just like my hecking elon musk!!!
>Fresside, Kings
Doesn't happen if you make Kings hate the NCR
>Westside
When?
>BoS
Mojave chapter unironically deserves it, they're absurdly assholish, more so than any other BoS chapter
>Followers
When?
>vault 21
True
>NCR citizens
The NCR was already fricking them over anyway
what the courier does is irrelevant, if you leave house to his devices he ends killing the kings with his robots, also do you think jenny farkas spying on house gets to go unpunished? if hes willing to murder hundreds for objecting to his authoritarianism. do you also think non combatants in the BOS deserve to be killed? scribes and engineers, and the most definitely also have squires but most likely were left out from the game because they are children
plus, ncr taxing will increase when house starts extorting the ncr in mojave, and this will not come from the rich and powerful
>also do you think jenny farkas spying on house gets to go unpunished
Oh you're just making shit up
Doesn't House straight upmsays he doesn't care about what the Followers do?
Also , taxes increase when the NCR wins anyway
he staright up murders a bunch of people who he thinks might become a problem dwon the line, what makes u think he dont do the same with followers, considering they already showed their underhandedness
>straight upmsay
he also says people around him are dumb cattle, but then he goes on to specifically side with the omertas even though he knows they will turn on him
>might become a problem dwon the line
Based honestly. Total Follower Death.
if your entire argument for why abject authoritarianism is right is might makes right then there is no problem to killing dr house and having him be dealt with that way for NCR ending
>dr house
What the frick did he do to you, didn't prescribe you boner pills?
There is no ending slide for them in the Mr House ending, but even the NCR kicks them out.
>honoring contracts is le bad
Also, yes man mentions that house planned to have some kind of deal with the followers in his questline.
So as long as you help the kings kill some ncr goons everyone is happy.
when you tell him you were hired to plant bugs he says "go ahead, pussy, I'll have them out before you report back" when if you do it the followers chick confirms they're already dead.
>do you also think non combatants in the BOS deserve to be killed?
Not one member of the BoS deserves to live.
I hate Arcade, but his quest of retrieving Enclave Renmants made me tear up a bit about the lost Old World Government.
Man, the Enclave is fricking cool as a villain faction but I can't stand people who think they're good lol. They're the very israelites that caused the apocalypse to keep their power instead of giving up on oil and automation.
>caused the apocalypse to keep their power instead of giving up on oil and automation.
t. chink
>epically gets nuked to own le chinks
America had good nuclear, they should have just let the chinks starve from a lack of oil instead invading their mainland.
The chinks were already invading Alaska at that point though, and only after the Mainland campaign was launched were they able to push them out.
I thought Power Armour was what turned the tables, not the invasion of the mainland.
>They're the very israelites
They're the descendants of them. They were an evil faction run by a madman who still thought it was morning in america, but not necessarily every person who grew up in the oil rig were demons. And after shit went sideways they had to integrate, and there's only a handful left, and you're offering a late game opportunity at redemption or going out in a blaze of glory.
MUH FLOOPIN GLOWIES ARE SO BASED
>can't even read my full post
Yeah.
The BOS 100% deserve to be exterminated. They're a massive nuisance and they don't give a shit about the lives of noncombatants either.
>nuisance
so is mr house to NCR, so lets kill him... right? also they do care about noncombatants. otherwise they would have immediately just murdered you when you discovered hidden valley instead they are open to reason and they never tell you to go murder bunch of NCR either from what i recall
The homosexuals put a bomb collar on me and told me to go frick with some NCR guy. Thats close enough to murdering me for me to end their existence and feel good about it.
so you being given a chance to prove you are not an agent against bos is enough of a reason to want to give them no quarter, even though they already showed you quarter
your post lacks logic, and the only way you think killing bos is right is because you are basically ignoring what the game is telling you, and from what i remember you dont even have to kill the ranger anyway and they'll give you a pass
They strapped a bomb to my neck, so they started it. They also slaughter everyone at a followers of the apocalypse outpost if you tell Veronica to join up with them.
you finding their bunker is an existential crisis for them, yet they had the humanity to give you a chance to prove you mean them no harm, yet you can't offer them the same benefit of the doubt?
also veronica is of the chapter, she knows the risks of associating with outsiders
>the same thing
you being led to a man trap is not the same as you coming across a hidden bunker, and basically breaking your way in..
>yet they had the humanity to give you a chance to prove you mean them no harm, yet you can't offer them the same benefit of the doubt?
No
>also veronica is of the chapter, she knows the risks of associating with outsiders
So the BOS is allowed to kill humanitarian pacifists (noncombatants) over basically nothing but I'm a bad guy for killing them all over putting a bomb collar on my neck?
>no
so, you being a murdering psychopath is okay, but the BOS threatening to murder you in self preservation, after you showed unwillingess to cooperate, is not ok?
>BOS is allowed to kill humanitarian pacifists (noncombatants) over basically nothing
this is literally their creed, and they take it very seriously. if you sign up for some selfish reasons like veronica then that is your cross to bear if it ends bad for you.
>this is literally their creed
It literally fricking isn't, wtf are you talking about?
self preservation through secrecy
how are you not understanding the issue that you finding their bunker is an existential threat to them? yet they give you a chance to prove you mean no harm to them
>kill humanitarian workers
who are these "humanitarian workers"
>and harass travelers
who did they harass? they are in hiding
>Their creed is one of many reasons they deserved to be exterminated
so because they want to be left alone you want to murder them?
You're moronic
>unwillingness to cooperate
Turns out people don't like "cooperating" with tech-pirates that put bomb collars around necks, kill humanitarian workers, and harass travelers. Shocker.
>this is literally their creed, and they take it very seriously.
Their creed is one of many reasons they deserved to be exterminated
There’s giving a chance and then there’s literally threatening to blow your head off purely because you showed up at their doorstep. Even some of the nicest and most amenable of people are going to remember that shit down the road. People everywhere are struggling to survive and they’d be pants on head moronic to assume malicious intent rather than consider it possibly being a case of a talented frickass breaking into a well secured location because he might think there’s some goods worth pilfering.
I bet you didn't extend that mercy to Elijah for doing the exact same thing
House doesn't care about the followers more than Microsoft cares about a random script kiddy.
The BOS are pieces of shit too, they didn't hesitate to kill noncombatants just so one of their own didn't leave them. Complaining about civilian casualties makes no sense when you hide your soldiers among them.
Not to mention their whole ideology makes no sense, what is the point In taking all the shiny toys around and them hoarding them in your hole until you die?
The BoS's original mission statement is 'we'll confiscate all the dangerous technology and only dole out safe tech', but that swiftly mutated into 'those dirty wastelanders can't be trusted with any technology' and when THAT lead to too many people dying because they took irrigation tech from them, that mutated again into 'okay fine, we'll just take the weapons and anything we want personally from those subhumans.' The BoS basically envisioned itself as becoming the feudal lords of the wasteland, but experiencing pushback from that (which made them increasingly isolationist and paranoid) and the general internal ego/self-exceptionalism they experienced that made them look at Wastelanders as lesser people turned them more and more into a bunch of spiteful buttholes.
I do sort of like the mutation that Lyons' Brotherhood and the Outcasts wound up defaulting back to the BoS' original mission, even if that was purely accidental. Seeing the two coasts clashing over ideological differences could be pretty neat.
The thing about that is that Lyons' is too soft, he doesn't want to confiscate personal weapons or anything, he just wants to be a protectionist lord. Meanwhile the Outcasts don't give a frick about ruling over Wastelanders, they just want to take tech and kill mutants. It's ultimately Arthur who goes back to the very original concept of the Brotherhood, he wants to confiscate or destroy technology from Wastelanders he thinks is too dangerous for them, but on the other hand his Brotherhood DOES directly rule over and protect Wastelanders like in a feudal kingdom, rather than leaving them out to dry after taking their tech like the West Coast Brotherhood defaulted to after losing that 'for their own good'/protectionist ideal early on in their history.
but regardless I always destroy the brotherhood because I think their knight theme is cringe.
If i wanted power armored men acting like religious knights I play a warhammer 40k game.
Is that their original statement of Bethesda's gay 76 retcon? I honestly can't frickin tell anymore
It's Fallout Bible lore. Maxson justified his shit in the way I described. It's just that it never ended up working that way in practice once applied, the Brotherhood never bothered to dole out technology when people were 'ready' for it, they just kept hoarding and hoarding.
They dole out technology at the end of Fallout 1. They and the budding NCR are pretty entertwined until they aren't.
Tactics is canon, all the liberal BoS were sent on the one way trip to the Midwest and the hardliners who hated being pals with NCR remained behind to start a war
Tactics is semi-canon, it's canon until it contradicts something. That said, it does mean that there are two BoS states, the one in the Capital Wasteland (who knows how big they'll end up getting, you'd think they'd head down the Southern coast and not just into New England) and one in the Midwest, both of which are protectionist feudal states. Will they get along once their borders touch? Unify?
Ah okay, it seemed familiar
There's also some cut content which I think it's cooler, which is a holotape revealing that Captain Maxson died midway through the journey to the Lost Hills bunker and that the first BoS Maxson was his son and he set out the isolationist BoS that would descend into the quasi-religious organization you saw in 1
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Brotherhood_Honor_Code
What a little shit that kid is.
Yeah, I always liked how Fallout accelerated the generation gap to justify it's Earth Abides style social degeneration.
It's a fundamental part of its appeal as a post apoc setting
I certainly hope some moronic fricking game doesn't miss this huge aspect of the setting and retcons the BoS as being formed in the way they were in 1 instantly because Good Guy™ Maxson had an idea
>I certainly hope some moronic fricking game doesn't miss this huge aspect of the setting and retcons the BoS as being formed in the way they were in 1 instantly because Good Guy™ Maxson had an idea
The east coast Brotherhood already had both elements of the OG in 3 between the Outcasts and Lyons' defectors. All Arthur did was mellow out the hardliners on both sides and get them to play nice.
>All Arthur did was mellow out the hardliners on both sides and get them to play nice.
All the Enclave tech helped too
I'm clearly talking about 76
>he doesn't know
[76 is a simulation]
Redpill me on this cope so I can huff it
https://fallout.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000003469204
And Niero, a former /fog/ poster that got hired at BGS Austin mentioned it, saying the next game was going to be set in Texas after the 3 and possible NV remakes
Oh. I didn't pay any attention to 76 because it looked bad.
BOS are fascists. I hate fascists. Simple as.
Work on your bait
>If I disagree with it it's bait!
Oh grow up
Anon, a terribly spelt and factually incorrect post isn't a "disagreement"
>modded kings so they get yes mans ending since house's is dumb
>brotherhood-house truce
>didn't ally any towns with NCR
>only Follower who took issue is Arcade
and westside is a shithole anyway.
>brotherhood-house truce
Reminder that the reason why House hates the Brotherhood is because every beta tester was picking House, and Sawyer didn't like that.
That only makes him better tbh. bos sucks
Hell the BOS basically becomes a gang of raiders in a yes man ending where you let them live.
that's a solid reason to change it, honestly.
Following house is incredibly brain dead for a large chunk of his questline, adding the bos dilemma forces the player to either stick with him or change to yes man or ncr and thus engage further with the faction system
>adding the bos dilemma forces
Well it would of actually been hard if the brotherhood he was asking to destroy was Lyon's goody good chapter instead of the Mojave who are buttholes, except the former is too far away to be an important to House, though they are so different from mainline brotherhood that I have no idea how he would think of them.
Sawyer himself said a lot of players swapped to a different route, so yes I would consider it a dilemma
only because of veronica
Only until she revealed she was a dyke and my male Courier had no chance of getting into her sandy vegana, then I enacted total BOS death and was a loyal partner to House
>Get no pussy
>Instantly turn to authoritarianism and worship a male father stand-in
Kek
Who said anything about ceaser?
I really want to see what the cut house romance would have been like
>Is there anything else I should do before the battle?
>Well, some of Mr. House's projections predict a {reading} "moderate probability of civil instability subsequent to the NCR being driven from the Vegas region."
>One of the "mitigating contingencies" he planned was to enlist the Followers to provide increased medical aid throughout the region.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/VMQTopsYesMan.txt
Anon Headcanon: Noooo Mr House is gonna kill all the Followers because he's a meanie!
Actual Canon: House is going to pay the Followers to be doctors
I honestly don't like the concept of Yes Man
He's mostly just a plot device so Benny had a chance to be retroactively cool.
Benny is cool without Yes Man. They're separate characters, especially since you need to screw over Benny somehow before seeing Yes Man.
He's almost entirely there as a failsafe so if you decide you hate literally every faction, you can still complete the game
And then the game cuts off any House ending with the Followers and completely ignores any quest you did for them
Oh yeah, and the NCR who was constantly said and shown to be overextended and inefficient suddenly shape up and help them
NCR are incapable of wanton massacre the same way house isnt, and NCR has components in it that are deeply humanitarian, so it would make sense for them to cleverly divert some funds to enable joint cooperation with the local outfits for an easier assimilation into NCR. This kind of ending doesnt fit house, who does what he wants with whatever justification he wants.
>NCR are incapable of wanton massacre
Bitter Springs, the BoS War, the Mojave Campaign...
>BS
essentially the fallout version of wounded knee massacre, shit happens
>the BoS War
what about it? are they supposed to just let them blow up their gold reserves?
>Mojave Campaign...
a campaign against legion, lol
no, because they literally can't let the world know they exist, and you just keep ignoring this because that's the only way you can justify wanting to murder the BoS in your game, you literally have to go "nananana not listening" to the game to enable your logic
its cut content for a reason, house is a hyper authoritarian technocrat with penchant for murder, suddently being all buddies with followers after they spied on your enterprises is just a complete tonal whiplash, especially when they canonically murder kings just because they said no to his deathbot armies driving them from theri homes
>NCR are incapable of wanton massacre the same way house isnt,
Are you moronic? They killed the civilian Khans at bitter springs, they kill the homeless that come take water from lake mead and they literally send you to kill House. Plus, Moore sends you to exterminate the Khans
>and NCR has components in it that are deeply humanitarian
Not universally. It's humanitarian for them.
>so it would make sense for them to cleverly divert some funds to enable joint cooperation with the local outfits for an easier assimilation into NCR
No it doesn't. They don't have properly allocation of funds or personnel, it's crazy to think that NCR would magically get them
>This kind of ending doesnt fit house
It does though, despite it being nonsensically only limited to Yes Man there's dialogue in-game indicating that he had a plan and it stands to reasons that House, a guy that enjoys tranquility and order wouldn't want the gateway to his tourist city to be a chaotic hellhole
>they kill the homeless that come take water from lake mead
no they don't.
>The NCR fixed up the pipe network pretty good, and water merchants like me are allowed to have some of it to sell.
>If we have a water license, of course. Still, it beats the inconvenience of having to trek all the way to the lake to resupply.
The NCR doesn't stop anyone from walking to Lake Mead and filling bottles, they only get pissy about unauthorized usage of the pipes they own
>no they don't.
Yes they do
>the pipes they own
They didn't build the pipes, they took over them
>no, because they literally can't let the world know they exist
You moronic lorelet everyone knows that the BoS exists. They're at war with the NCR back west, and literally every faction plus fricking Mr. New Vegas knows they're hiding in the Hidden Valley. And even if they didn't, killing people because you're an isolationist techno fetishist isn't a good reason
>its cut content for a reason
Yeah bc obsidian has awful time management and whoever was in charge of the endings is an idiot
>suddently being all buddies with followers after they spied on your enterprises
They only spy on his enterprises if you do it, and no there's no punishment, even if you inform him of that
And again, him enlisting the followers towards and ordered free side makes much more sense
>especially when they canonically murder kings just because they said no to his deathbot armies driving them from theri homes
What like the NCR does with the Kings, the Khans and the native Vegas population?
is just a complete tonal whiplash, especially when they canonically murder kings just because they said no to his deathbot armies driving them from theri homes
>BoS
>non combatants
Elijah didn't become Elder, survive Helios, Big MT and the Sierra Madre as a Scribe without weapons training and the intent to use it. Every Scribe in the bunker will pull a gun on you if you go in shooting. Veronica's a Scribe and she favours a fricking Power Fist over a gun. They're the remnants of a US Army unit.
And considering they've blown up multiple of their own bunkers rather than surrender to NCR they put even less value on their own children's lives than House does.
>LET GO
I love NV and Dead Money but damn did they have the subtlety of a brick with the overarching message
WHERE THE FRICK DID THEY GET ALL THOSE BEAR TRAPS IT'S A FRICKING RESORT VILLA FOR RICH buttholeS WHY DO THEY NEED SO MANY FRICKING BEAR TRAPS
Anon grizzly bears measure on average 6.50ft and weight anything from 400 to 800lb, their powerful bites are measured at 1,000 psi. They can run up to 100 yards in eight seconds and and maintain that speed for an extended amount of time
Don't think that because you're out there, in some New Mexico mountain resort and casino, that you're safe, the grizzlies can climb and nothing will stop them from crossing thousands of miles of even the vacuum of space to eat you
Bears are ironically one of the least threatening things that those traps could deter. I’ll take a bear in a fight butt naked before I deal with a giant rad scorpion or deathclaw.
Some butthole made a holoprint for beartraps and was gonna make it everyone else's problem.
to keep out tresspassers while building the place up corprate spying was srs shit in fallout
>What is Light Step perk
The main reason why I do Dead money second just to reach the level requirement for the perk.
>have a number one
>number one is killed
>have new number one
what's not to get
>Tell Courier to do their job
>Courier gets intercepted and the package is stolen
>Treks across the whole of the Mojave figuring out who shot him and then getting his package back
>This could very well mean heading deep into Legion territory for some play throughs
>The Courier has demonstrated that he is willing to go well above and beyond even when it would have been reasonable to report back to the Mojave outpost and write the package off as an unrecoverable loss
>Given the Courier's willingness to go above and beyond, he is the obvious choice for helping further House's goals
>Gift him accordingly as someone whose new job is to manipulate the outcomes of multiple different factions, and having to take jobs for those factions while still being loyal to House
>If the Courier does that job, House becomes the leader of the Mojave, thus closing the book on a plan 200 years in the making and opening the pages of a new one regarding humanity's long term future
Brotherhood of Steel when being isolationist weirdos who hoard technology and kill others for it results in multiple factions wanting the Courier to eliminate them like the little turdies they are
>DONT HURT THE INNOCENT TECHJACKING MURDERHOBOS YOU MONSTER
Getting whiplash going from "House is bad for wanting to kill Followers in this made up scenario that exists only in my head" to "BoS isn't bad for killing Followers in this event that happens in game" so fast. Damn.
house already murders freeside kings if you dont interfere, simply assuming nothing bad will happen to julia farkas after she spies on house who kills people when he feels like it based on some notion of self interest when the followers are of no use to him is mental gymnastics, also i have already given you the reason as to why BOS murders followers, and your response to this was "BOS should all be murdered because they act in self preservation"
>i have already given you the reason as to why BOS murders followers
Yeah, they're a bunch of c**ts
House Isn't because he doesn't murder a bunch of doctors
House isn't too bothered if you tell him before or after about the event. He doesn't even tell you not to place the device. Either he has some plans to feed any devices curated or he's so secure in his ability to shut down cyber incursions that it doesn't matter. Either way House Benefits more from the Mormon Fort existing in Freeside than he's hurt by the prodding of the Followers for secrets. Yes Man non-withstanding, he seems to have a complete blind spot for that and the Courier never tells him about it.
In exchange for 40 seconds of data transfer House gets to greatly improve the buffer between New Vegas and the Wasteland. Freeside is practically free. He doesn't need to police it, he doesn't need to provide any resources. The only thing he seems to need to do is not turn off the water. In exchange Freeside acts like a sponge that sucks up the undesirables that would otherwise cling to the walls of New Vegas. The sick would beg and harass paying customers and the violent would be right at the gates. Instead the sick and injured gravitate to the Mormon Fort, practically out of sight and the Kings make their small profit escorting the soft to the front gate. I'm guessing House more lucked into the formation of Freeside around New Vegas instead of setting it up but I'm guessing he realizes the value that it provides.
there might not be a problem initially, but if the refugee camp gets overcrowded and doesn't stop growing then house is going to clear it out. he only doesn't care about them for as long as they stay invisible and don't bother the paying customers of his strip. i honestly don't see why he hasn't already driven out the muck considering it no doubt affects the clientele his strip gets if they have to waddle through a refugee camp to get to their luxury casinos.
homie the refugee camps exist only because the Legion is raping Arizona. When House takes the Dam the robot army directly under the Fort annihilates them. No Legion, no refugees.
That's true. If the fort got too popular and overcrowded it would probably spill into its own shantytown. Possibly another Westside. The Followers don't have unlimited resources though. I can't see them being able to sustain a large enough group to overflow. Either way though the Followers are a known problem that can be eventually cleared out with Securitron force if it gets out of hand. In comparison the Brotherhood who can't really be assaulted in their Bunker with their high tech who may try to retake Helios One or the Dam. House assumes that they're the greater threat and one that he needs the Courier to handle. Ultimately this all goes out the window though the moment House learns that it was Emily that created Yes Man then House likely is going to go scorched Earth on them or at the very least send the Courier.
Also, this is tangentially related but helps to mitigate issues involving the Followers but with the NCR leaving the area this opens up the option for House to reclaim the McCarran Monorail to use as an alternate entrance, bypassing Freeside entirely for the wealthiest guests. Meanwhile the Sharecropper farms might be of interest to the Followers and Freeside in general, a new source of food providing some stability.
Those guys going after the Followers is honestly pretty out of character given how the BoS act and are treated elsewhere. House openly seethes that the BoS don't bother the Followers because the BoS doesn't actually give two shits about medical technology (besides the FEV). Those Paladins should have been an ambush targeting Veronica specifically.
Of course they also crop up even if you convince Veronica to stay (and are treated as hostile by the rest of the chapter, interestingly) which I never really got. The writing for Veronica's quest sucks in general.
The BoS are a tribe of quasi-religious fanatics. They don't have defectors or people who leave the organisation. You learn there's a militant hardline faction that follow Hardin, it's perfectly in character some of them would overreact and murder a bunch of people in response to the unthinkable happening.
I guess they felt the need to equally tie them to the three major factions
Logically speaking it should've been
Legion kills them for refusing to submit
House lets them be as long as they stay away from his turf, meaning if they insist on moronation they're dead
And the NCR probably kills them off since their bunker is in between California and Vegas
Nothing feels better than smashing that failed republican house across his frail jaw with a nine iron.
He knows how to scout talent. Thats why hes a genius and one of the best video game characters ever created
>He knows how to scout talent
He looked at Benny stabbing his old boss to death and decided that kind of go getting attitude would never be turned on him
prez kimball riz
yo dis homie ballin
*Blows your brains out*
Nothing personal, mate.
wait there man, I'll be sure to attend your speech
Looks like a moron
>He tried to make me pay taxes.
It's a missed opportunity you can't do Arizona killer in a Yes Man playthrough.
Why is living with the rich handsome sugar daddy Mr House the wrong choice again? NCR is being a wagie and Legion is hurrrrrr randumb.
The """"Great"""" Khans deserved Bitter Springs
The "job" was the interview for the real gig
why does this remind me of armenian corey
Mouth wrinkles, open mouth, spiky facial hair.
If ghosts are canon in the Fallout universe due to Fallout 2 and 4, why did Mr House go through so much effort to technologically preserve his body (which was far from ideal since his systems were failing without the platinum chip and germs would kill him)
He could've just ruled the Mojave as a ghost
I guess that also means it's best to not kill Mr House but rather let the germs slowly kill him so you can delay the time until Mr. House becomes a vengeful spirit.
>NCR got killed off screen
>No mentions of Legion
>Mr House is confirmed to appear but we have no idea how, could be a flashback.
So who won the battle?
Ulysses
Who cares about tv anyway?
>Cucked Cortana right in front of her face
Based?
>helmet off
>EVER
No. It's irredeemably bad.
>President Kimball succeeded by President Ronald Glump
>When Caesar sends his people, he's not sending his best. His not sending you. His not sending you. His sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing chems. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
He gives you the hotel room for going to the fort and upgrading the robots because he's impressed by you bringing him the chip despite the great inconvenience to you.
>for going to the fort and upgrading the robots
He gives it to you long before that
>mr house claims to be a super genius that will massively advance humanity once he gets the chip (that gives him better robots to shoot people)
>if you don't immdately do what he wants he starts threatening you like a common thug instead of just giving me anything I demand and then drone striking my house later in revenge
and this is why I'll never do this ending, I don't know if this is supposed to be on purpose to show he's full of himself or if the writing is just dogshit surrounding this character but either way, house is a choice for morons.
>pay guy to do his job
>promises to tell him more once he accomplishes this initial task
>the moronic mailman refuses to do his job
>actually starts holding your property ransom
>he then goes on to kill you because you didn't acquiesce to his demands
>"Lol he was dumb"
You can't be this moronic.
It's literally the only ending where you get something, you can't demand anything of Caesar or the NCR either, and while Caesar at least bribes you, the NCR doesn't give you shit
>he then goes on to kill you because you didn't acquiesce to his demands
yeah, see. it's this part that makes me think either mr house isn't nearly as smart and machevillian as he's presenting himself as - or the writing surrounding this segment is just bad because they didn't want to let the player put themselves in a "do this dialogue choice and game over" situation.
mr house literally owns all the casinos, all of the best land, and once he gets the chip all of the power in vegas. he can literally give the moronic mailman anything his caveman brain wants and then just wipe him off the map after the chip (and thus supreme power) is in his hands
but instead he would rather stumble at the finish line because the idea of people not immediately doing what he says is foreign to him, which is going to be extremely common for someone who plans on uniting the entire human race so he can go to space.
bringing up the other factions is irrelevent, they are explicitly written to be flawed characters in the story while mr house is presenting himself as a darius of persia esque god/phillosopher king ubermensch but then gets his stupid ass killed because he wont give a caveman with a gun more shiny trinkets
>but instead he would rather stumble at the finish line because the idea of people not immediately doing what he says is foreign to
That's because that's the smart things to do
The reason you don't negotiate with terrorists is that they can just keep demanding more things. If yours incapable of dimly doing your job, you're not a reliable employee
>Oh why didn't he just gave you what you wanted then murdered you in your sleep or whatever
Because it's a game and there's limitations
>bringing up the other factions is irrelevent
No it isn't. You have to pick a faction to end the game, House being the best of them is a point in his favor
One thing I found out while in a leadership position when you're first getting started is you need allies, and you need them quick. House after Benny is isolated, he can't afford to keep people at arm's length while he vets them, he needs someone now. The courier accomplished their mission despite getting shot in the head, even traveling all the way to New Vegas to track down the person responsible when they could've just run away.
Offering the courier partnership, House had three outcomes: Either the courier refuses and they part ways with House being free to try again, the courier accepts and the two work together to play the NCR and Legion, or the least likely outcome, the courier is a conniving mastermind that also has the firepower to put House in the grave and take his place. That last outcome is likely to happen anyway if House doesn't do something, so he decided to play the odds in the hopes that the courier is as reasonable as they are determined and can be his right hand.
I think a lot of times, taking a chance is inevitable if you want to progress, your time isn't infinite and others have their schemes in motion as well. If the NCR managed to kick out the Legion, it wouldn't be long before they assumed control of New Vegas and shut House down or relegated him to an NCR puppet, and if the Legion won he would outright be killed. And even so, the courier's job was virtually done as soon as they got the chip to the securitron bunker, at that point House had all the cards he needed to secure the dam even without the courier's aid. But even so, he kept the courier around to honor his end of the deal.
>their
Predict what caused the NCR to collapse in the TV show
the writers
probably even more nukes
Probably a water and food shortage like was being forecasted in NV itself.
I'm pretty sure that was a logistics issue
Yeah the reasonable, rational response to a logistics issue is to seek out nigh-magical VaultTec plant growth juice that makes plants bloom in the desert without human intervention
well, yeah
they're looking to take over the mojave permanently and magic plant growth juice would help a lot with making living in a desert more sustainable
I remember there being a scientist character talking about how the NCR's aquifers couldn't handle their population but I can't remember who it was supposed to be for the life of me.
There's also this quote from Hildern where the NCR gov predicts a mass food supply shortage some time during the next decade, which is why he's so interested in Vault 22.
>a scientist character
It's Hanlon and he tells you NCR drained every single lake in California bone dry
Why is the NCR so fricking stupid?
Because they're meant to narratively display that the new world is repeating the mistakes of the old. They're acting stupid in the ways the pre-war US government acted stupid.
Ah, here it is. I was thinking of a line from Hanlon where he straight up says the NCR overdrew their aquifers and dried them up. I don't know if I think of Hanlon as a reliable narrator, but his assessment of the NCR's natural resources pretty much lines up with Hildern's so I can't think of any reason to believe he'd be wrong.
>expecting a mundane and plausible explanation over the possibility of something fantastic and moronic.
We all know it's going to be something stupid.
Bethesda and the show's writers will happily look you in the eye and tell you that the most successful post-war nation in the franchise collapsed utterly in the span of 8 years and that every major city that was perfectly functional is now a shouldering hole in the ground and there's now super mutants and raiders everywhere again.
all in favor of jerking off the Brotherhood of Steel.
Shady Sands = gone
Junktown = gone
Maxson/Lost Hills = gone
Necropolis = gone
Boneyard / Los Angeles = retconned into Megaton
Arroyo = gone
Vault City = gone
Redding = gone
New Reno = gone
San Francisco = gone
So is Arroyo part the NCR or not?
*New Arroyo
Yes, the NCR has expanded into Oregon and Washington, and Arroyo is in southern Oregon. They haven't reached British Columbia yet though, probably because it's fricking cold and there are few if any surviving population centers to use as a base of expansion.
Man, who the frick in NV's dev team had a boner for the NCR? They canonized all of the endings favorable to them from 2, plus had them annex and reach settlements they didn't even touch
>had a boner for the NCR?
What? The game goes out its way to talk about how moronic, corrupt, and over-extended the NCR is. Sure, they got all the nice stuff from 2, but since then they've been taken over by corrupt oligarchs, destroyed their environment, got their homeland full of raiders and mutants again, started a war with the BoS, and are expanding too fast and too far to the point where they can't even control their own land.
>The game goes out its way to talk about how moronic, corrupt, and over-extended the NCR is
Yeah, and then go out of its way to ignore that in their ending
Regardless, my point still stand, someone in NV decided to canonize all the NCR favorable endings from Fo2 and go even further than that. The game doesn't portray them as inceptionally cruel like the Legion, just wayward
I suppose, Tandi is basically Jesus in the setting
Oh, and overinflated their own currency to the point where people are using fricking caps again instead.
>overinflated their own currency
That's not inflation, that's because the BoS destroyed/raided/irradiated the NCR's gold reserves.
It is inflation. They switched to fiat currency which is much more subject to runaway inflation, which swiftly proceeded to happen.
No, it's because of a line they forgot to include about BoS irradiating the gold reserves
>They abandoned the gold standard and established fiat currency, which is why its value is inflated
Uh
>I'm a huge fricking moron
Yes, yes, I know. But just for you: they only switched because they had literally no other choice.
So? I didn't say anything about WHY they stopped using gold backed currency in my posts, I only talked about why people switched to caps. Which is fiat and inflation. What caused them to need to do that was irrelevant to my point.
It's not surprising. The NCR was the civilization that grew out of the first town you visit in Fallout 1.
They wouldn't immediately begin to shit on characters like Tandi and Aredesh and it wasn't until Tandi's death where the NCR could become a less virtuous good guy state.
Tandi was hot in 1
The Dweller should've tapped that
You can hit on her but she doesn't reciprocate
yes she do but she holds herself back, she gets shy in the cute way, she is like 16 i think so understandable too young, never seen an erect wiener just his dad taking a piss and a shit in a digged hole outside of shady sands.
>implying the Khans didn't gang rape her
We have dudes in New Vegas strongly hinting that the NCR is poised to ecologically collapse itself to death. All Bethesda did was push that collapse forward a couple years. If NCR got seriously fricked by the war in the Mojave there's not any reason to believe they'd hold together; they needed Mead and the Dam.
Of course we're counting on Beth/Amazon to actually account for that. I don't expect they will.
>All Bethesda did was push that collapse forward a couple years.
they're not going to do that. There's a whole host of reasons New Vegas proposes that could fracture or cripple the NCR, but I guarantee you they're not going to use any of those reasons.
They're going to pick some unrealistic, some fantastic, some nonsensical reason for any theoretical NCR collapse.
Even speculating on this topic is giving the state of this franchise too much credit.
And just you watch -- even if the NCR was nuked in the interim it won't be the Divide Nukes. There will be no tunnelers, no Sierra Madre Cloud, no manmade horrors from the Big Empty, it will be something "original" written by a group of hack writers who don't even have a passing familiarity with the Fallout wiki, let alone the games.
While knowing amazon and bethesda it's probably the enclave getting shoved back into the roles of Big bad villains again and probably be even more nazi-like then normal.
>more nazi-like then normal
FO2 already introduced them trying to gas the entire world to get rid of the inferior peoples
yes but now they're SUPER NAZIS
I know one thing they probably use the enclave in the whole "vaults are the haves" in there haves and have nots thing they want to do.
Chris Avellone being isekai'd into the Fallout universe and tearing it down
The courier nuking long 15.
how does the someone nuking a small stretch of road on the california/nevada border cause civilization on the entire coast from SoCal to Oregon to reset?
if we go by what avellone wanted unironically tunnelers
they're described as being stronger than deathclaws, work on groups, are actually smart hunters AND their only vulnerability would be light. There's not much to hunt on the mojave and the one place with a bunch of people (new vegas itself) is a place blasting with light every single night to the point you can see it far in the distance
Between a food shortage, poor administration and tunnelers rampaging through the west I could see them falling. Kinda sucks though because what the frick is left there now? Just more raiders, again?
>what the frick is left there now? Just more raiders, again?
Yes. Everything returns to its origins. In Fallout when traveling you encounter random people who attack you for no obvious reason. There is no explanation, there is no reasoning, either you kill them or they kill you. In Fallout 3, 4 and 5 it's the exact same. Only New gayass tried to give the fundamental core of Fallout "an explanation" for everything, and it's poetic that it was all a fruitless pointless misstep in the end.
It all boils down to men killing other men in a desert in the end. No need for understanding. Human nature will wordlessly elucidate better than any narrative ever could.
the judge was a moron would would've unironically been stopped at any point by any of the other outlaws just shooting the shit outta him
I regret to inform you that the Judge was a real guy who did 90% of the stuff he did in that book and was never killed.
hence my point that he could've been stopped at any point if the merry gang of morons just shot him
he was a delusional bumfrick who (in the books) was SEETHING over the thought of alien life so much he wouldn't even admit to its existance
since they are farming in the vault its prob the famine if they're really going the route, but i really don't think they are since that relies on lore from basically 1 side quest npc. they're probably in the show just as a background element.
Todd being upset about New Vegas being used to constantly shit on 3 and 4 having awful writing
The same thing that will cause everything to collapse in the final episode
Todd didn't want any actual reactions in the fallout universe so he had them killed off
The ncr will not even be mentioned and will literally be ret-conned out of existence
Racists causing infighting, and a strong black lesbian woman was trying to stop it.
They're going with the house is an butthole who drained it dry but it's okay because we have spaceships now, so it leads into starfield in the ending.
Yes, but if something does go wrong then I'm responsible and I don't want to feel that way, so I'll do anything to run away.
Also, house comes with immortality implants
If House had immortality implants he'd use them instead of being a pod boy.
I think he's an unironically addicted to vr. In other words, he's unironically a Gankerirgin
It's roleplaying and what my characters usually end up thinking.
>it's roleplaying
And it's fricking moronic. Yesman route requires you to buttfrick House, The NCR, and the Legion, as well as several other small time factions. The idea that a courier chose to put an AI in charge of anything and "Feel responsible" is fricking moronic. The entire point of choosing Yesman is to skirt responsibility.
but you are responsible tho because you took control of the weapons in order to reshape it to your will.
There's a cut vr pod that was originally planned to be used to frick him for female players and he scanned two starlets before the world ended.
It's brain scanning so he can turn them into robot waifus like Jane
He's gotta be porkin them somehow for veronica to call them sex slaves.
How does that like, work
Sure Jane can like flirt with House but I don't really see how there could be anything more. House doesn't even have a set body, unless he has Jane push certain buttons on the control panel or something
He gets off on being in complete control of their personalities and having them slavishly devoted to him
That's hardly a sex slave and I'm pretty sure his dick doesn't work anymore either tbh. Which means he's a vr gay
>autistically taking one line of tongue in cheek dialogue from a companion that never meets the robots in question and references one that isn't even in the game this literally
Because the content was cut but because she mentions they're still canon.
Frick I meant but they're still canon because she mentions them.
I hate dyslexia.
You just described like 90% of vidya lore. Too many autists
that gives me the ICK
I like to imagine Jane was a glowBlack person assigned to seduce House but she (and the government) really underestimated how autistic House actually is. Now the only remains of her are in a robot personality, and we have no idea if that was her real personality, a pretty persona she put on to seduce House, or just him completely making something up because he knew no one could ever dispute it.
the courier literally fricks off at the end of NV, why do you feel responsibility for anything and why is your autism so severe?
I was born that way?
House is connected to his camera and robot monitoring system not in VR
>im responsible
Black person it's a fricking video game ending, your "Responsibilty" ends after you kill or don't kill Legate Lanius
>Mail man
>Gets shot in the head
>Crawls out of the grave to track down the man who shot him
>Gets into the strip
How is this guy NOT someone you can rely on?
Why are BoSgays always so fricking moronic?
Cry harder, BOS is on top and is running both the East AND West Coast. We can't stop winning.
how many times have you had a package been delivered carelessly, wrong, left in a spot to be stolen, broken, or just taken back to the depot to pick up yourself
I'd do the same for a good courier, they literally just have to drop off a package it's probably one of the easiest jobs ever
Being second in command to House provides about as much agency as being a free citizen of an improved NCR.
>they
wow, I thought people were joking about the vegas community
Courier can be male or female
So? He can't be multiple people.
Yeah, but you can say 'they' for a person of indeterminate gender
>he could have said 'he or she' instead
Yeah but he decided on 'they' this time
The use of "they" for a single person of unidentified gender has been there before mentally ill teenage girls man.
Stop using it it sounds moronic just use he/she
no excuses moron
I graduated high school like 20 years ago and still remember "they" being acceptable when you can't infer male or female from context.
Stop being a troony obsessed autist
He needs capable agents and the Three Families are shit
Probably grabbing anything he can and seeing what works.
does House have a sigil or flag?
Right here.
no thats Hopeville
Now You've given me a segway to complain about hopeville
I hate how it's a ruin of a ruin, it makes all of Ulysses talk about the great civilization that was being built there even more moronic because you literally never see any of its remains it's all hopeville
>you literally never see any of its remains it's all hopeville
Bro, the game is you walking through the radioactive canyon carved out of the earth by the nukes that went off under the city.
And you're constantly crawling through ruins and up the side of collapsed buildings.
Okay, point me to which ruins where the nascent Divide nation that Ulysses obsesses over and which are part of the original hopeville that was destroyed by the great war nukes
The rubble and buildings you're crawling through constantly. I don't understand what you are confused about anon. Its right there.
The House-aligned Courier Duster, Old World Justice, has the same flag as Ulysses'.
what about independent?
21 I think
That's the 21 with the spade. Kind of a b***h to get it though.
Vault 21 logo with a spade
Gotta be awkward for a married Courier to walk around wearing that
That's just the stylized fallout us commonwealth flag.
The lucky 38 sigil is more accurate to house and it marks his shit like the platinum chip and the secuitron vault
ngl, I went the House route because 1. I was hired to deliver the chip. And 2. After delivering the chip, we had a working relationship. It's easier to work with existing clients. I'm not sure why he decided to turn me into his kept man, but hey, as long as the pizza, booze, and vidya keep coming, I'm good with it.
>as a reward for literally just doing their job, invite them to live with you and become your second in command(they may or may not have killed the last one, in public even)
Don't get me wrong, House is stupid, but what you're describing is him just offering you another better job.
How dangerous are they really?
I don't imagine NV's sex mods are as extensive as Skyrim's, especially not in regards to custom content/quests/locations.
Luv this series
Reno is honestly one of my favorite settings in all of vidya.
Its so scummy, and nasty, and stupid, and funny, and you can work out the order of operations to become a made man in each family and a prizefighter and a porn star.
Thoughts on robosexual relationships?
Okay if they look like sexy french maids with perpetually tight and moist veganas
Fallout 4 didn't happen and you can't convince me otherwise
I want to frick Mr house
>Human curie
Can't even put quad legs on that b***h.
Please assume the position.
what exactly is happening here?
True to Caesar!
Slavery....the future of..... mankind? What.... have you.... done?
why would anyone EVER side with House?
I just want to listen to the radio, eat food, frick b***hes, and shoot things. Governing a country is too much work and the ncr/legion are filthy imperialists.
So why didn't you pick the Yesman route?
he said why
Yes Man needs some level of human decision making.
Yes man is an incomplete house planning wise and there's no guarantee that he'd do as good of a job once he runs out of material.
If he breaks, then I have to step up and I don't want to do that.
>Yes man needs some level of human decision making
>if he breaks, then I have to step up
Uh no you don't? The entire point of the Yesman route is to setup an autonomous AI to do everything for you while you frick off into the wasteland
>if he breaks
He's literally backed up into the same system House was in, he's not going to break.
Because I can pick Yes Man if House ever croaks or turns on me.
you do realize that some (if not most) people don't like to be in charge?
The NCR and the Legion are a joke. House and Independent are the only semi-viable routes. Independent is moronic short-sighted video game bullshit logic, so that leaves you with House. Simple.
when it comes to potential power levels it would be: house > ncr > legion
in order of how willing they would be to use high tech and also develop high tech. Eventually the conqueror (aka House if you help him) would have a technological empire where he just has to fend off against the Institute or the Brotherhood of Steal (East). It would be a fairly easy win for House sinece the BoS doesnt have a huge military just a lot of specialized power armor soldiers, some recons and some scribes. House would have a bigger population that is armed, securitrons, probably a Liberty Prime v2 better than the BoS, etc.
Thing is, House isn't interested in expanding outside the New Vegas area on Earth. He wants to make a space empire and leave Earth for whoever else wants to fight over it.
House is interested in expanding outside of New Vegas. Why do you think he been displacing Free Side deadbeat good for nothing gays like the Kings, also he would totally expand to Hover Dam, he needs it.
By 'New Vegas area' I mean the section of the Mojave Wasteland you experience in the game.
Thats better than the Brotherhood of Steel East and The Institute which can be the only competition for Mr. House in the future, small city state that gets rich as frick, with a badass military sounds like one of the best factions still.
the pays well for completing the quests, the penthouse is great, selling him snowgloves pays well.
Yes, Mr House is my boss. Proud to work with him.
The courier is the only one who knows the truth aside from a few others House doesn't know about or can't reach
House wants to keep you close and an ally for his own sake
House is objectively the best option right? Keeping both the Legion and NCR in check and creating a wasteland Switzerland seems like it has zero downsides to me.
Yes, but gaymurs are mentally underdeveloped and think that a mailman should be allowed to have complete control over the entirety of the strip by conditioning an AI into thinking the way he thinks and leaving that thing in charge once he inevitably gets merced in the streets by a stray bullet because "well I'm the main character of course the best ending is the one where I'm in complete control"
>think that a mailman should be allowed to have complete control over the entirety of the strip
It's sensible in the context of the game, considering how big of a Mary Sue the story turns the Courier into, and his connections to all the minor factions. Especially if you're playing a 10 INT 10 CHA 10 LCK gigachad.
>But what happens when the Courier dies?
House mentions at one point he could potentially provide his life extending tech to Courier. Of course he couldn't run around anymore, unless they decided to brain transplant him into a robot or something.
>It's sensible in the context of the game
Yeah there's definitely some dissonance between what would realistically be the best basket to put your eggs in and what feels like the most feasible given the fact that it's a video game and you can read a wiki article to minmax relations with every faction and ensure the most peaceful possible outcome. Hence why gamer brainrot leads people into thinking Yes Man is unironically the best route when it's legitimately stupid and unfeasible outside of the context of a perfectly minmax'd 100 speech playthrough.
>Hence why gamer brainrot leads people into thinking Yes Man is unironically the best route when it's legitimately stupid and unfeasible outside of the context of a perfectly minmax'd 100 speech playthrough.
not to mention it's pretty egotistical.
Yeah. I think a lot of people avoid House because he's an egomaniac and an autocrat, which is true, but then they go independent route which makes them the egomaniacal autocrat. And one that has a literal AI as a right hand man on top of it, which is probably somehow worse than House since at least he'd have a human being (you) as a right hand man.
>which is probably somehow worse than House since at least he'd have a human being (you) as a right hand man.
Not to mention that acording to script notes, House is still human in his own weird way
>''You know, I've had thousands of employees in my time. Few met my expectations, fewer still surpassed them.''{You know, I never had much time for a family - if I did, you'd be the daughter/son I wish I'd had.Benny was almost like a son to me, but well...}
maybe you're projecting too much onto the arbitrary choices people make in a video game designed to be replayed over and over
So long as the Courier sticks with him and doesn't Benny him, things will be fine.
But what happens when the Courier dies? If he doesn't have a successor, House is worthless without a right hand man.
The upgraded Securitrons are enough, all his defence has to do is make it too costly for an attacker to bother, not necessarily overwhelm them.
You need a right hand man to keep all the families in check.
So many of them plotted to cross House, the courier put a stop to that, through reason and force. Securitrons just don't the nimbleness a human hand does.
Give the courier an important quest in the breeding dungeons
Don't forget that if the Courier does OWB they're probably immortal or at least have some extra centuries of life. Don't forget that Lobotomites don't age or die of natural causes and you are effectively a Lobotomite with a glitch that kept you from ending up feral and moronic. Even if you get your brain back the modifications to your body are still there.
at the time you load into the game, the ncr is entrenched in a losing conflict that they can only win with the player character's intervention and the legion's only leader has gigacancer and doesn't make it to the end of the game's plot
house is the only major actor who even remotely has his shit together, he just needs the mailman to do his fricking job and give him his package and he's fine
>hires the MC of a game
man's a genius honestly. can't lose.
>recognise someone is competent in a world of dullards
>reward them as much as is feasably possible, and give them rank and authority
Not too hard to understand
Everyone talks about wanting more quests for the Legion because it was rushed but I was really disappointed by House's route and wish there had been a Broken Steel style pack to flesh things out more or something
You never feel like you're doing anything different in House's route, it's just meeting the different factions just like Yes Man and Legion (at least the NCR had different quests). There should've been stuff like maybe securing more technology, maybe improving the strip, just something unique
>quests for the Legion because it was rushed but
No, it was because Avellone and Sawyer didn't even consider them a joinable faction at first.
>Avellone and Sawyer
Avellone had jack shit to do with the Legion outside the basic premise from the Van Buren design document so right away you reveal you don't know what the frick you're talking about
>so right away you reveal you don't know what the frick you're talking about
He was the Lead Writer you homosexual, he openly said the Legion weren't going to be a joinable faction because he considered them as evil rapist with no redeeming qualities.
I'm still amazed that the legion ever managed to get a fanbase. Like their armor is football gear ffs.
>amazed that faction that puts women in their place, owns slaves, glorfies Roman aesthetics, and wages war has fans
Go back to plebbit
Lanius and the centurions are the only ones that look intimidating. Everyone else looks just looks like a moron without an armor replacer.
Yeah, NV's dlc are huge wasted opportunity
Should've gone the Hearts of Stone or Broken Steel route and expanded the existing map and content, not send you off to a school trip to the national park or or a fever dream that ends with a guy talking you to death
It would've been cool if they could've put reno in the game.
Too large and kind redundant
They needed a Legion city, like an actual Legion city populated by civilians that pay tribute to Caesar to give players a better perspective of how life in Legion territory is
Speaking of, has anyone ever actually put out a good quality Legion territory expansion mod that lets us run around the other side of the river properly like the original intent? I doubt it with the fricking mod community Nexus has fostered, but still.
I feel like it's really glaring that Beyond the Beef wasn't apart of House's questline
I'm pretty sure it is.
nope
Why not join the Followers of the Apocalypse?
You can't. They're nice tho so I like em.
Cause they're dumb hippies, even if Julies' voice sends my heart all aflutter.
I always join the Followers in good aligned playthroughs, that jacket of them is a godsend for medicine checks and Julie gives great head
Ugly Mohawk b***h made me hate the Followers and Arcade Gannon's moral homosexualry every 5 minutes didn't help
Yeah, I really didn't like the characters of the FotA faction. Pretty much all of them were holier than thou, either arrogant buttholes or just so boring they blend into the scenery. The only conceptually controversial character was the westside guy who killed the NCR soldier to steal water, but then when confronted he just cucks out, also his quest is hard to even encounter for most players. Other than that you have the guy babysitting Mr. Fantastic (which is kind of cool but not very significant), and the dumb b***h trying to hack into House's system (which is a joke that goes nowhere).
Caesar was right. For how well-meaning the Followers are, they will never amount to anything with how pacifistic and non-confrontational they are. Maybe he could have integrated some of their knowledge into his Legion by focusing more on the stick than the carrot for dumbass druggies and such, but at least he gives them mercy in his ending.
breasts too small
Stability of the strip will help the followers WAY more then any medical assistance I could give.
This. The followers as they are just can't seriously survive on their own. However them acting as a supporting faction is a great benefit to everyone.
The followers in vegas aren't the totality of the followers. They're based out of the boneyard. The hospital in freeside is a doctors without borders outpost thing.
The Pitt...home
I love that place. It's so edgy
>the Pitt was such a gigantic shitpile that the Brotherhood coming in and slaughtering everything that moves was objectively a huge improvement
>not even the people that lived through the Scourging disagree with this
I actually have a tabletop character that was born in the Pitt pre-Scourging and it didn't quite settle in just how much edge (and tetanus) I had set him up for until like a month into the game.
>>the Pitt was such a gigantic shitpile that the Brotherhood coming in and slaughtering everything that moves was objectively a huge improvement
Also it made most of the East Coast BoS grow a conscience, iirc they even mention at one point Lyons stealing Pitt orphans to at least give them better lives than they would have there.
About two dozen kids get adopted into the BoS after the Scourging, although the casualties the Chapter takes under Lyons' leadership are so severe that only one is still alive at the time of FO3. IIRC his name is Kodiak and he hangs out in the Citadel.
I had to dig around the BoS' timeline a lot during character creation; my dude is actually one of those kids because, apparently, I needed even more edge and decided to pile grueling forever war on top of being born in the Wasteland's closest approximation of hell.
>Bethesdas Fallout contains zero kin-
They need another game like FO2 that lets you start out as a tribal
my headcannon is that the courier is the child/grandchild of the chosen one, the same way they were to the vault dweller.
the courier is an enclave sleeper agent hence why he delivered the enclave tech to the divide, befriend ed-e and helped the remnants
I mean, it's possible
>son of Mr Bishop with a random woman(probably not his wife, since 2 and NV say he liked to explore the wastes)
A ton of opportunities to spread your seed in fallout 2.
>Klamath prostitutes
>Den prostitutes
>Miria
>Amanda
>New Reno prostitutes
>Mrs Bishop and Angela
>Miria
>The game essentially lets you marry a prostitute then prostitute her out at various points against her will for money
Cuck simulator before cuck simulator.
>prostitute her out at various points against her will for money
that's called being a prostitutemonger, anon. You are prostituting your "wife"
>prostitute her out at various points against her will for money
>cuck simulator
you have a brain rot, my Black person
Letting your wife frick other people, whatever else you want to call it, always makes you a cuck. You can be a cuck and a 'pimp' at the same time, there's no contradiction.
>wife
You literally get forced into a shotgun wedding, anon. She's your wife.
If there's a shotgun to my head nothing, I say is true.
>Letting
forcing
and for money
The 'letting' is the men you sell her to. You let them. You force her.
Yes. I am forcing Miria, daughter of Grisham from Modoc and a notorious prostitute, to have sex with men who pay me for her services
Yes indeed, after her father has forced you into a shotgun wedding with her, making her your notorious prostitute wife.
I can also sell her to the slavers in the Den because Fallout 2 is a good game.
Yes the game is wild.
She's still your wife even if you crossed your fingers behind your back, anon.
>*gets a divorce in new reno*
>She's still your wife even if you crossed your fingers behind your back, anon.
wrong.
I mean you can always just kill her I think.
>he doesn't know how lying works
isn't there also a thing in which if you kill him an unlimited number of uncles show up?
that's like something out of a DnD campaign with a very railroad happy GM.
Yes, the man had many brothers.
Or tell her dad you're a doctor, or marry her and not prostitute her out. See anon thinks I'm COMPLAINING about you being able to prostitute your wife (against her will, mind) out optionally. I'm not, I'm remarking on it and how wacky it is that FO2 even lets you do something like that. I'm not offended the game lets you be a cuck.
>Dad has a heartattack when you tell him
what woman sir that there is a ho
>Being able to play as a pimp is.... LE BAD
No fun homosexual
I strongly urge you to have sex. Don't let Abe down.
The problem is that being a tribal is either got to be the whole game or else won't be relevant 2 hours into your playthrough when you pick up your first gun and scavenged raider armor.
This
In 2 they treat the vailt suit as the coolest thing ever for like a minute then you steal Sulik's Leather Jacket and never wear the jumpsuit again
Fallout 3's Enclave should have been survivors from Fallout 2's Enclave as well as the rogue Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel.
>enclave in retreat after fallout 2 meets the midwest brotherhood of steel
>sees what they're doing and agrees with them
>the two join forces
>create a new power armor that's a fusion of Advanced Power Armor and Midwestern BoS power armor
>Enclave ranks inflated with fresh blood of Brotherhood members
>rewrite the central conflict of Fallout 3 to accommodate for this fact
They shouldn't have been the enclave at all. DC and the surrounding area are full of bunkers designed for members of the government to hide out in. All the Illuminati dicks and glowBlack folk went to the oil rig, but Congressman Frickstick and Senator Jerkoff aren't part of that.
It should have just been another faction holding onto prewar bullshit from the safety of closed bunkers and mothballed military hardware.
They "had" to be the enclave because "things you know" but the resemblance is so skin deep and cheap it might as well be an entirely new faction. Same thing with the brotherhood of steel.
>They shouldn't have been the enclave at all. DC and the surrounding area are full of bunkers designed for members of the government to hide out in. All the Illuminati dicks and glowBlack folk went to the oil rig, but Congressman Frickstick and Senator Jerkoff aren't part of that.
Most of them were Enclave anyway
No they weren't. The enclave were deep state. The rest of the state would still exist.
Again, there is no reason for the enclave or brotherhood to be on the east coast besides the fact that they're the guys on the covers of the first two games.
true enough.
The Enclave was written to be a largely monolithic extension of the old government. The dying breath of something already dead in the post-war world.
However, since they keep bringing them back, I feel like there could have been a bigger distinction made between which people were allowed into the enclave, and who were the "expendable" politicians, military officers and celebrities. Really detail the full extent of the Deep State Illuminati cult.
Considering the job is some insane superhuman shit, it's not farfetched. He sends you on multiple suicide missions.
>deliver the platinum chip, the key to Mr Houses plans
>Get rewards of 1000 caps
>Bring him a useless snowglobe I found on the way
>2000 caps.
This is moronic writing any way you slice it.
listen man he really likes those damned snowglobes
>there are Hightowers in FO1
>Didn't make Sunny Smiles a companion
What was Obsidian thinking?
that's another question to ask sawyer.
"Did you expect so many players to fall in love with the tutorial character?"
isn't she 16you sick frick?
???
Let's be honest, the wasteland probably would've reverted to pre-modern rules where you can frick anyone who's had a period.
wasn't sawyer the guy that raged at the success of BG3 for some reason?
Didn't really "rage"
Just a normal "i wish my RPGs were that succesful"
What were they thinking?
My brother always calls her "Poopy Piles" so all I can think of with her is shit.
Does your brother have down syndrome or does he have a scat fetish?
He's just based, frick your waifu b***h homie
Ah so your mother smoked Jet and shot up Med-X while pregnant with him, thank you for the answer.
>find out Benny's name is (probably) a reference to a card game
>spend 2 hours looking for a fitting reference to name my Courier with
I hate my autism sometimes.
Just name yourself Jack.
I like Jack, but Doc Mitchell implies you've got a weird name and that's stuck in my head.
Ward after 'War', or 'Goldy' to reference 'Go Fish'. I don't play many card games.
texas
I usually pick chance and pretend that I'm a psyker who absorbed the great khan's ghost while I was dying.
I do like that NV references that psychic powers do indeed still exist in the setting, though not as obviously as The Master's fricking psychic rape tunnel.
Fallout 3 was basically a military junta vs a military junta but in black.
Yeah it was cool
the NCR expanding is the best thing for the not only vegas, but the entire west
t. former housegay
>mindless capitalism reborn and the country that ruined the divide
>good
Who are you that do not know your history.
bear bear bull bull bull bull bull bull bull bull bull bull bull bear bear bear
Get that Kimball dick out your mouth profligate
you're gonna be paying taxes in Legion Aureus, skirtboy. yes this a written threat
>Corrupt government
>Lawless CORE region
>Economic depression
>Expanding mindlessly into territory they can't even secure
No way, they need an attitude check. They can expand more into fricking Mexico or Canada once they've got their shit together and consolidated their gains, they need to slow down for a decade or two and fix their shit.
NCR is good as a state not a country.
Evil Karma NCR route is actually one of the most enjoyable ways to run through New Vegas.
House is desperate for allies, he completely isolated himself even on the strip
Are women equal to men in New Vegas?
Mostly yes unless Legion or Strip i think
The strip is an equal opportunity exploiter. Gomorrah has dude strippers too and some ghouls too I think.
And there's the guy with Fisto too