>Terapagos
>Terastal form Terapagos
>Terastal form Terapagos (Terastalized state)
The last one will obviously be omegabroken and removed along with Terastalization in the next gen, but how good do you expect the other two to be?
>Terapagos. >Terastal form Terapagos. >Terastal form Terapagos (Terastalized state)
Nebby, Cosmoem, Solgaleo/Lunala
More like
>Type: Null/Kubfu
>any regular third legendary
>Ultra Necrozma/Eternamax Eternatus
Or
I doubt normal Terapagos is gonna be as useless as Nebby and Cosmoem.
More like
Neddy
Pagos
I expect tinyturtle to be its non-battle form, beardyturtle to be its in-battle form and discturtle to be its terastralised form.
That seems to be the case. According to Khu, Tera form and Tera state aren't the same thing and they can stack, and it fits with the official terminology.
The name for the state of pokemon affected by the terastal phenomenon, is テラスタルした姿 (terastal appearance), while the name of bearded Terapagos's look is テラスタルフォルム (terastal form).
Considering Heath's drawing depicts a Terapagos way more impressive than the one revealed thus far, I would say there are indeed three different Terapagos looks, normal, tera form, and tera form's tera state
Please don’t be another temporary Battle forme like Zygarde-C and Ultra Necrozma
>Mega-Rayquaza
>Complete Zygarde
>Ultra Necrozma
>Eterna Eternatus
You know it's gonna happen. That way is also easier for them to remove it next game to shill the next legendaries as the new OP shit, so far the only third legendary safe from this is Zygarde because its OP form is tied to an ability, not a gimmick.
If anything you should be surprised they didn't make a temporal Arceus-like form for Giratina in Legends
All of these excellent designs wasted on gimmicks and also to just be temporary battle forme gimmicks is sad. Zygarde-C and Ultra-Necrozma deserves better.
I miss megafug
I'm gonna be mad about primals forever, there's no reason those shouldn't just be held item forms like Dialga or Palkia. Hell they work the same way as Zacian and Zamazenta.
This but also Ultra Necrozma
Their forms were called their true ones damn it
And with how many stupidly overpowered legendaries they have been releasing these years they wouldnt even be good in vgc
Like Ultra Necrozma is a joke compared to Flutter Mane or Chien Pao
Iron Hands is so min-maxed its basically Slaking without Truant or Groudon without Drought
who cares, this is going to get cut and abandoned in the next gen
I don't really enjoy these big DLC legendaries to be honest.
>Giant eldritch horror dragon of light from space master of infinite energy creator of the regional gimmick
>Giant eldritch horror dragon of chaos from space master of infinite energy creator of the regional gimmick
>Giant eldritch horror turtle dragon (possibly) from space master of infinite energy creator of the regional gimmick
Is this some kind of overarching plot about giant gods from space parasitizing the poke-earth giving us literal devil gifts? should we expect another one of these in gen 10?
I want to know what the hell is going on in space since meteorites are also responsible for why mega fug exists, and the Original Dragon also probably crash landed to PokeEarth and made the giant chasm before getting split apart
>meteorites are also responsible for why mega fug exists
They literally explain this. The weapon irradiated meteorites in the stratosphere where Rayquaza lives and it evolved the ability to process the infinity energy in its Mikado organ as a makeshift mega stone.
The meteorites aren't more responsible for it than mass genocide which as Zinnia said was the entire reason Megas were discovered to begin with.
They literally never say this? They say the organ is the reason it exists, and they create a Mega Stone for it, that we feed it to revitalize it, but Rayquaza is far more older than Mega’s.
Aldo there are space viruses just hanging out which can turn into deoxys and there's the whole clefairy are from the Moon thing.
space in the pokemon universe is fricking terrifying
The fricking moon has life and its rays gave live to genetic waste to make the grimer family. There are living stone beings that can bestow mystical powers to people. Shit gets wild out there
Giant things falling from space seems like a normal thing for the pokemon world weird enough a lot of meteorites landed on the earth specifically 2,000 years
Kalos war was like 3000 years before XY too
Necrozma isn't from space (the space between stars), it's from Ultraspace (the space between timelines).
Terapagos has quite literally no ties to space whatsoever.
>it's from Ultraspace (the space between timelines).
Ultra space is the space between universes anon, not time.
>he thinks timelines = time
Fricking moron. A timeline is also a universe, it's the encompassed whole universe, past, present and future, separated from others in which history deviates, which is exactly how ultraspace works. Ultra ruin, for example, is so similar to the "main" universes you can even visit what's left of Hau'oli city, but it's still another universe, another timeline, where events unfolded differently.
Necrozma and Nebby's line are native from the space between these timelines, universes or whatever you wanna call them. That's ultraspace.
>A timeline is also a universe
No. Time and space are two distinct things. Finding a similar universe doesn't mean it branches off from the same timeline.
>Time and space are two distinct things
Black person if you aren't even reading me I won't read you either. Timeline doesn't really equal time, moron, it's not that simple
Anon, you showed that you don't understand the differemce between them from the first line.
Everything else in your post is pointless
>A timeline is also a universe
A timeline is a branch in the time of ONE universe.
You go back far enough then they're just the same.
A different universe on the other hand is a whole different thing with it's own time
Basically, if time is like a tree then another universe is another tree.
Area Zero being called a crater implies that it was created by something falling from space.
There are two kinds of craters though. Impact and Volcanic. I’m fairly certain that Area Zero is the later, rather than the former, necessarily.
>A volcanic crater can be of large dimensions, and sometimes of great depth.
>You make me feel like my troubled heart is a million miles away
>Like I'm drunk on stars and we're dancing out into SPACE
>CELESTIAL
Apologize right now.
You do realize that an impact crater from space would not have created a mountain, right?
Whereas a Volcanic crater is just a dying or extinct Volcano?
Also, Terapagos is more than likely a Fuzanglong, a Dragon commonly associated with the creation of Volcanoes, like Area Zero, and presumably, Glasedo Mountain.
Or it could just be Sootopolis all over again where it’s both. It doesn’t have to be realistic, schizo.
Sootopolis is quite literally formed from a giant meteor impact, what are you on about? The whole reason it can only be reached via dive or fly, is because the mountain ring surrounding the city makes those forms of travel the only viable way, because of the tall ring. But it’s not a former volcano in any way?
Your space meme is moronic. Deal with it
>NOOOO THE GREAT CRATER OF PALDEA COULDNT HAVE BEEN A METEOR CRATER NOOOOOO
Yes, because it’s literally impossible with how Meteor’s work.
They can form ‘low’ body mountains, but Area Zero is far too deep and narrow for it to be a Meteor impact crater.
Or it's a meteor impact that happened to hit and obliterate a cavern system beneath the impact point.
The reality is it's going to be whatever the frick Game Freak say, because they don't bother applying the laws of the real universe to their pokémon universe, thus whatever they want to happen, can.
Or it was just an explosion of some kind.
And remember one of the things we know about Terapagos is that it has a lot of energy, unstable energy.
Source on the instability? The crystals have a lot of energy, there's no indication they're unstable. The opposite in fact, they're so inert in crystal form, it took until 10 years prior to game events for the professor to harness them as the power of terastralisation.
The crystal is inert as a medium for holding the energy, but the energy itself is what’s unstable. Which is why it was so dangerous.
>Source on the instability? The crystals have a lot of energy, there's no indication they're unstable.
Dumbass
So, NTA, butnit’s interesting how specifically their (the crystals) influence is making their experiments unstable, whereas the second one just states directly that the power output was unstable, not the crystals themselves.
Neither of these actually mean the crystals themselves caused any destruction or erosion on the mountain besides where they already are growing. So they cannot be the cause of the crater.
>the second one just states directly that the power output was unstable, not the crystals themselves.
Anon, it's the power output OF the crystals.
Which didn't get triggered until the professor started fricking experimenting on them, you drooling frickwit.
If they were unstable by design, Heath wouldn't have made it out of AZ, as doubtless some fricking monstermon would have hit a crystal trying to fricking gank the party, if they even let people go down due to all the random explosions kicking off from "highly unstable crystals". That also happened to grow out the ground cross the land and not cause any issue.
>If they were unstable by design
Of course they're unstable by design you fricking moron. These things just grow endlessly even if you cut into them and put something in it.
Unstable doesn't mean it's always going to be nitroglycerin
Yes, but that has nothing to do with the crystals being physically unstable, simply the power is unreliable, the output either works sometime or it doesn’t at all. The output would likely be fluctuating, so they don’t get stable results from every crystal.
>physically unstable
You're reading things that no one said.
That’s the only way I can imagine
working out, if an explosion caused the crater to exist. Yes Terapagos has a lot of energy, but the crystals contain that energy. If the crystals were unstable in a physical sense, meaning they couldn’t handle the amount of energy inside of them, and eventually explode as a result, then I’d agree, but obviously they contain it just fine, meaning the instability is in the energy output, not the crystals themselves.
That’s if that is actually what they are doing, though,
>If the crystals were unstable in a physical sense, meaning they couldn’t handle the amount of energy inside of them, and eventually explode as a result
Anon, they literally grow endlessly.
That doesn’t mean they are unstable, physically, they literally absorb material and convert it to tera energy, growing into more tera crystals as a result. They’re replicating and growing like natural phenomena, I don’t see the problem here?
>simply the power is unreliable
NTA but these are crystals that can generate enough power to open a hole in time and space. It's not going to be
>it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't
It's going to be
>it works sometimes and sometimes it fries our systems
>-Terapagos comes from space!
>+Source for your headcanon?
>-It lives under a crater!
>-+So?
>-Maybe the crate was created by something that fell from space!
>+Nice headcanon.
>-SHUT UP IT'S POSSIBLE SO IT'S REAL OKAY??
Literal headcanon
>between timelines
nonsensical. ultra wormholes are wormholes, they go to different places in spacetime. the future, the past, here, there, even a location outside of the observable universe and before the big bang sure, but not another timeline.
>talking about this shit as if it's real
oh brother it's a multiverse midwit. sorry to burst your bubble but the universe is utterly deterministic, cause precedes effect, you can determine the state of any system by knowing its previous states, if you ran time back like a movie and pressed play the same things would happen and you would make the same decisions every time. the earth is round, water is wet, grass is green, and there are no parallel realities. regardless of whether or not the games subscribe to it, since you might be right and they might not, i want you to know that parallel realities are a fundamentally unscientific concept that doesn't exist in the real world and you will look like an idiot if you talk about them as if they do.
Just another trope used since Gen 7. Like rival using the weak starter and the guy who gives you the starters using the strong one in a championesque battle
>(possibly) from space
brother it's in a massive crater, there is no (possibly) about it
>is this an overarching plot
no, they're just uncreative
>will there be another in gen 10
yes, because they're uncreative.
also, it applies to kyurem and the entire creation trio.
>>(possibly) from space
>brother it's in a massive crater, there is no (possibly) about it
Did you miss
and
? It can’t be a Meteoric crater, because Area Zero is too deep, and not wide enough. Whereas a Volvanic crater would be a perfect fit, explaining most of what is down there pretty easily, like the weird rock formations that act like platforms, that would have been utterly destroyed and not exist at all, if it was a meteor.
You know crater doesn't equal something falling from space right
You just described 90% of JRPG villains. They are either flamboyant homosexuals, the devil, evil alien dragons, or some combination of these
there will be no difference between the second one and the third one until Gen 10
Universes and timelines are made up things there are no correct answers.
Fricking hell, how moronic can you be.
Does anyone have a screenshot of the "uncensored" book page that Briar shows us? I need it for something.
Thanks bro
You're wecome
I wonder how many pages were omitted from the finished book.
Because the part with it's name doesn't exist in the lobby version.
this also means that the professor was in possession of the manuscript or was acquainted with someone who owned it
if it was a person, they knew to omit Terapagos specifically since it was removed from the Area Zero logs too
Yeah it really does seem like someone went through the effort to [REDACT] info about Terapagos, which is very suspicious.
The thing is, we don’t actually know if Terapagos is the Pokémon mentioned in the Area Zero Journals.
It’s very likely that we may get a reveal the Pokémon they were studying wasn’t Terapagos…
Personally I still think it is, but it’s weird.
>we don’t actually know if Terapagos is the Pokémon mentioned in the Area Zero Journals.
Come on dude it's obviously Terapagos
>We've determined that this energy crystallization is linked to the being we call .
>The interlocking hexagonal plates that comprise 's shell must somehow cause this phenomenon—which I've dubbed "Terastallizing"
Did you miss the whole
>Personally I still think it is, but it’s weird.
Bit?
I still believe it is Terapagos, but there is the slightest chance that something else could have hexagonal plated crystals, like Glimmora being made of crystal.
I still have a weird feeling Dokutaro could be revealed to the actual origin of Terestralization, with Terapagos being the medium used to make Terastalization work.
Dokutaro storyline isn't related to Terapogos, otherwise it would've been scrubbed. It's a side story ala galar birds but more story driven.
Dokutaro is cleary related to Glimmora, which has a direct link to Tera crystals and thus Terapagos.
It's not, same reason why Khu hasn't correlated them a single time. Same reason he's responded to Tapu-esque artwork rather than anything else. You're filling in blanks with things that you want to hear.
>muh Khu
Who the frick cares about the attentionprostitute chink? Glimmora and Dokutaro clearly have visual similarities and are Poison types.
Dokutaro has more visual similarities to the Tapu's that Glimmora. We don't even know it's typing.
And you know this…how?
I looked at it with my eyeballs. I looked at how the Tapu's look while closed.
You need to get your eyes checked my dude
How does this look like any of the Tapus?
You know the Tapu's can open and close.....right? Like along the visible crease along the top of Dokutaro? Or will this trigger your autism?
Lmao, you can't be fricking serious. What is this fanfic bullshit?
The Tapus have completely faces, and while they can "close", they never just have a fricking hole in the middle where their eyes peek out cause that's be fricking stupid. It's obviously for their protection.
Where on earth did you pick this schizo theory up? This is fricking ridiculous kek
*completely different faces
That's a fan design, moronkun. It already has a face on it, if you actually look at the design that you posted.
>That's a fan design
Well fricking obviously, yes. As I said, total fanfic. And the drawing implies that the face itself would be peeking through the hole to match with the Dokutaro drawing in the game files. That goes completely against the design philosophy of the other Tapus.
Again, where on earth did you pick up on this? It makes literally no sense, and I've seen some crazy theories about SV out there, most of them more believable than this.
>most of them more believable than this.
I mean, I would believe Tapu momo over the Imagination paradoxes.
You quite literally think Dokutaro is a Glimmora because "omg the faces are the same!" yet trying to use a fan mockup to pretend there isn't one. Where did I say that it opening would leave a gap? That was the artists interpretation, you're just being a moron.
How are their faces not the same? It's a black circle in the middle with two circles for eyes.
Meanwhile it doesn't have any visual similarities with the Tapus at all who all have very distinct patterns on their shells.
Their faces are still in the shell though? Also look nothing like the face in
and
because the eyes look completely different? You are just proving my point.
I'll ask again, where did this ridiculous theory come from? Some dumb Khu "riddle"?
It might be a Carbink/Diancie situation
Dokutaro is gonna evolve into a Solgaleo because it has the same face as Cosmoem!
Pretty sure it is, yeah.
Also while you're being intellectually dihonest why not show me where the faces are on Lele and Fini?
This has nothing to do with the argument but goddamn the Tapus are such cool designs, hands down the best minor Legendary group in the series though the Ruinous Quartet are giving them a run for their money
>[A] has some similarities with [B]
>ACKCHUALLY NO THIS ONE SMALL DETAIL IN [A] MAKES THEM COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TO [B]
moron
I mean I guess I can see what he's talking about when they're closed but eh, I don't think they'll take that route personally.
I mean, I get Enamorus because they needed a fourth and it didn't really work with any other game but I don't see Momo being a Tapu, they already feel complete
If Dokutaro is a Tapu without a totem, it would make sense why it was stealing masks with the loyal 3 to create its own (same reason it only cared to take the 3, it didn't need one for itself). That's all headcanon though and me trying to rationalize if that's the design choice they went with.
Do you seriously think that the creator of the TOXIC Chains and even looks like those chains is not a Poison type? Come on dude.
It’s also all but confirmed to be Poison/Ghost typing, Ghost is the one typing not utilized in the image, and makes the most sense if, even if it’s just a unique Paradox of Glimmora, Ghost makes sense as a ‘dead’ flower turning into a fruit.
The fact is, even if the datamined story is a side story, we have no clue if anything Dokutaro may have done with the Loyal Trio or in Kitakami, in the past or presently, will have consequences in the story during this second part, since this last. Ire’s everything to be done.
Do,taro sent the Loyal Three after the Masks because they had Tera Crystals too, which makes it more than likely this all has something to do with Area Zero and Terapagos. Especially since the man who gave Tera Crystals to Kitakami’s Crystal Pool, and the Mask Maker used some to make the masks.
>Dokutaro storyline isn't related to Terapogos
Eh, I don't think so.
I reckon it'll have it's own story in Blueberry sure but it'll escape or something and make it to Paldea connecting Blueberry, Kitakami and The Way Home to Terapagos.
>I have named it Terapagos
>It'll say terapagos in the anime
Unless it already did, I'm just not interested in watching the new series. I just annoyed by Pokemon saying their names in the anime.
It doesn't really say it's name, it just makes weird baby noises that sometimes very vaguely sound like "pagos". That is the original dub though, I can't promise shit about the English cause they make that shit way way worse, so don't watch it.
it is more likely that the crystals have hollowed out and worn away the inside of the paldea crater when you interact with the crystals inside the lab the textbox says it is wearing down the lab
You realize that’s not how craters form, right? And even if that was the case, the entire mountain would be riddled with them all over, covering the mountainside if it was hollowed out that way. Because these crystals are converting matter into Tera Energy, but their still mostly stabilizing in the same place.
last one is going to be boss only like the poison dragon from swsh
I wouldn't mind that. I mean, we'd have an option to use normal pokemon and we wouldn't have a partner.
It could actually be a good boss.
dont spoil and put any information or image about terapagos under spoiiler because you cant spoiil others' expeirnwce
Anon are you ok
DONT SPOIL moron
i sent a halloween curse your way
What was spoiled in the OP?
Gojo dies
They really need to stop doing science fiction in pokemon, it melts morons brains. Apparently extremely powerful and unstable energy sources is no longer a trope but a debate.
You should see the whole imagination vs time travel debate.
It shouldn't even be happening because the game is pretty concrete about it but it does.
It's not really about sci-fi people are just fricking stupid
>the game is pretty concrete about it but it does.
Yeah and the answer is imagination
Case in point.
Yeah you're just stupid
Apparently the anime is heavily hinting that terapagos's powers is memory based, so both imagination and time travel theory seem to be wrong. If anything, it's just that anons really like to argue about stupid shit
I wouldn't say memory recall is a part of imagination. I mean, you can look in the archives and a lot of people who said it was time travel in the first place said something about knowledge storage in the first place so that part can fit anywhere.
Imagination is specifically dreams to life.
Isn’t that what
is saying? That both time travel and imagination are wrong. Lol.
Not exactly no.
He's saying that memory recall = imagination when imagination is bringing something from the mind into reality.
Recalling something is more akin to an illusion in the anime.
>I wouldn't say memory recall is a part of imagination
That's why said their both wrong anon. I feel like I accidently opened a can of worms talking about the 2 theories, but my main point is that anons like to argue over stupid shit where nobody is ever in the right. I just used those as an example because those arguments got really autistic from evrytime side. Another example would be the arguments over ash. Every time I go into anime threads, anons are always arguing about ash, "he's the best" "he's the worst".
My bet is on ancient civilization with hyper advanced tech that used Terapagos to terraform land to create their ideal kingdom and modified Pokemon DNA to create Paradox Pokémon
Tera crystals are literal memory storages which can then manifest things by altering existing material using the memories stored in the crystals
The thing is, Terapagos isn’t actually a Terraformer, which is odd, but it doesn’t seem to really do anything like Terraforming the Planet, besides causing crystal growth, perhaps.
Well the second DLC has the "Terarium" which is literally an artificially created set of biomes, separated by Tera crystals. There gotta be a link to Terapagos in name alone.
Oh yeah, not saying it is impossible by any means, but are Tera Crystals actually the cause of the separate biomes, or are they simply powering the entire building, making it possible to keep the entire building operational.
You're playing hopscotch with this one. Liko suggested that Terapogos shared it's memories when she met Arboliva and Moltres, that doesn't necessarily mean that's its "power". Outside of that we know it has very powerful emotions and wants to find Lucius and Rakua. Mostly everything is a guessing game at this point, but nothing revealed thus far points to imagination being the solution to the paradox. The real question is why Terapogos awakened when Liko was in possession of it and didn't care about Diana. It also looked at Amethio like it knew him, so hopefully the plot is something interesting.
>so both imagination and time travel theory seem to be wrong.
Eh, here's the thing. It's definitely time travel. That's what the entire last story was about, the story's done there, nothing more to add.
But certain people believe that because the overall story isn't over that means they're going to retcon everything before it.
Except the story continues after, not like this is a side story like Kitakami you can do before. There will no doubt be some kind of revelation that changes peoples opinions on this stories ending.
You don't need a plot twist on a plot twist. Arven questions the order of events, and the pokemon are referred to as paradoxes. I think the 19th tera not currently existing, but being shown freely in trailers, is the big flag people are ignoring.
It’s not a plot twist if it just wasn’t fully understood and actually revealed. It would have been a feint, or a red herring at best, before the dlc does the final reveal of it all.
>. It would have been a feint, or a red herring at best,
That's not a plot twist though, that's just retconning. You'd have to change everything that happened and explain it too. For example, where did the AI professor go if it wasn't actually a time machine?
Then there's the uniform theme of the paradoxes, if they were all dreamed up why are they so consistent? And why was nothing else made? And why wasn't the specific imaginary fake mon in the book made.
>You'd have to change everything that happened and explain it too. For example, where did the AI professor go if it wasn't actually a time machine?
…would that not get explained in the DLC? If the Time Machine was not a Time Machine, then they’d likely have some comment about the AI being just a copy of the Professor’s consciousness given form, it was just downloaded back into the Crystals, where it is stored for later use or info when the machine needs it, or another body for the AI was made and it could be downloaded back into a physical body.
>would that not get explained in the DLC
Not if they wanted to have a new story. You're essentially asking them to not only rewrite what's there but to also explain things that didn't need to be explained before.
>it was just downloaded back into the Crystals
Anon, it's body fully mechanical. The body would have fallen to the ground and been left behind if it was reabsorbed if that's even a thing that can happen which is another thing that would have to be explained.
>Not if they wanted to have a new story. You're essentially asking them to not only rewrite what's there but to also explain things that didn't need to be explained before.
How is going deeper into the story and revealing the truth, asking them to ‘rewrite’ it?
>Anon, it's body fully mechanical. The body would have fallen to the ground and been left behind if it was reabsorbed if that's even a thing that can happen which is another thing that would have to be explained.
You’re assuming the body is not just technology that was manifested from Tera Energy, like the Paradoxes, because then it’s just a matter of breaking the entire thing down into energy again and reabsorbing it.
>How is going deeper into the story and revealing the truth, asking them to ‘rewrite’ it?
Because that's not going deeper, it's replacing what's there. Going deeper would be giving detail to what exists.
>You’re assuming the body is not just technology that was manifested from Tera Energy,
Anon, the AI outright says it was built by a human.
>An AI is an artificial intelligence created by a human being. A computer draws on the original professor's knowledge and memories to calculate all of my thoughts and actions. The results of those calculations are expressed by this mechanical body, built to resemble the professor in every way.
>Because that's not going deeper, it's replacing what's there. Going deeper would be giving detail to what exists.
Do you even read what you’re typing here? As multiple people have stated, things would just be explained more in this DLC?
Also, the Professor’s journal basically states they didn’t make the AI, despite it being a copy of the Professor, it just appeared. I doubt the AI was made by human technology, where it is stated it’s creation is beyond humanity’s current technology level.
>As multiple people have stated, things would just be explained more in this DLC?
That's not an answer. It would still require massive amounts of retconning and asspulls to justify the theme.
>the Professor’s journal basically states they didn’t make the AI, despite it being a copy of the Professor, it just appeared
Anon, the AI with the professor's full memories, said it was built by a human.
Also the journal doesn't say it just appeared, it doesn't even refer to the AI outright.
>I doubt the AI was made by human technology, where it is stated it’s creation is beyond humanity’s current technology level.
The AI confirms it was built with human technology, if it's beyond humanity's, not technology but knowledge, then there are only two reasonable explanations that fit with things that have happened in game.
>Also, the Professor’s journal basically states they didn’t make the AI, despite it being a copy of the Professor, it just appeared.
Sick dude, Arven confirmed for Jesus pulled out by Whis.
The AI disproves that immediately after the lines you greentexted when it tells the player that it’s too advanced for current levels of technology.
You know this is a time travel story right?
No its a story about storing energy.
>where did the AI professor go if it wasn't actually a time machine?
That would most likely be answered in the story.
>Then there's the uniform theme of the paradoxes, if they were all dreamed up why are they so consistent?
Because they were imagined by the same person.
>That would most likely be answered in the story.
Scroll up to see the full argument there.
>Because they were imagined by the same person.
Which would be Heath, which brings up a lot of issues especially where the Violet paradoxes are concerned.
Heath never saw anything in Area Zero paradox pokemon were made up after the fact.
>Plotwist = retcon
Timetrannies don't play anything other than pokemon.
It'd be a retcon, not a plot twist.
Ogerpon is plot twist and it was foreshadowed from the start that it was friendly by Kieran.
With time travel, it goes into way too much detail to just be abandoned on a whim and was a major plot element.
and you think the theorycrafting people have been doing for the past year is because people are noticing the foreshadowing that it isn’t actually foreshadowing?
bold of you to talk about foreshadowing when people point out Occulture but then people like you say it’s a red herring and not foreshadowing
How is Occulture foreshadowing if all of it is meant to be as outlandish as possible?
Hell, if it were imagination and the professor imagined them based on Occulture you wouldn't be able to catch Iron Hands.
>How is Occulture foreshadowing if all of it is meant to be as outlandish as possible?
outlandish pokemon written about in a dubious magazine on the professor’s shelf brought to life. that’s what’s it’s foreshadowing
>you wouldn't be able to catch Iron Hands.
why not? the professor imagined it was a cyborg human that turned into a pokemon in the future. you catch human turned pokemon all the time, see yamask or phantump.
>outlandish pokemon written about in a dubious magazine on the professor’s shelf brought to life. that’s what’s it’s foreshadowing
That's not how foreshadowing works especially since Occulture never actually comes up in the plot.
>the professor imagined it was a cyborg human that turned into a pokemon in the future.
Because it's just a cyborg human that resembles a pokemon, there's nothing about it being a pokemon.
>This being's name comes from the one given to an iron-handed entity in the mysterious Violet Book. It is said to have fists that move independent of its body and to be capable of throwing large, fast-moving vehicles.
>A leading theory holds that Iron Hands was once an athlete who became mortally wounded but was kept alive by being made into a cyborg. Why it so strongly resembles Hariyama, however, remains unanswered.
In fact none of them say that they're pokemon, except for technically Jugulus which is called a hybrid in Occulture.
>That's not how foreshadowing works especially since Occulture never actually comes up in the plot.
Dokutaro never comes up in the plot but it’s foreshadowed by the plush toy in Peachy’s and it being partially visible in a cutscene. We know Dokutaro exists. Occulture is the same thing.
>In fact none of them say that they're pokemon, except for technically Jugulus which is called a hybrid in Occulture.
And Heath never said paradoxes came from the past/future either. But the professor filled in the blanks.
>A cyborg? It must be from the future which means I need a time machine to get it! It looks like a Hariyama? It must be a Pokemon even if it was originally a human!
>Dokutaro never comes up in the plot but it’s foreshadowed by the plush toy in Peachy’s and it being partially visible in a cutscene. We know Dokutaro exists. Occulture is the same thing.
That's not even remotely close to the same thing because there's that purple mist that comes out of Kieran not to mention it does show up in the story. They're leaving hints about Dokutaro everywhere but Occulture doesn't show up in anything plot relevant. It's just there on the side.
>And Heath never said paradoxes came from the past/future either.
Which should be your first hint that they aren't imaginary. They're too uniform to just be random creations not to mention in the case of the future Paradoxes they're literally too advanced for people 200 years before to even envision. I mean, the pokeballs back then we're wooden and steam powered, how would they think of a machine that's sleek, with polished chrome and LEDs for eyes of this technology didn't even exist?
>It must be from the future
Most Violet Occulture books don't even mention the future. In fact Bundle is said to be from the past but at least two are said to be from space.
If we're being logical then Turo should have made a spaceship.
Occulture is a red herring, because it is a source of misinformation. Is it a red herring for the plot? No, all it really shows is the fact that people disregarded Heath’s Journal, and made fun of it by making up stories it
>shows is the fact that people disregarded Heath’s Journal, and made fun of it by making up stories it
except the professor had it on their shelf which means they read about it. and Occulture writes about things from the Scarlet/Violet book that the professor also obsessed over. the professor was a conspiracy theorist and did obvious insane mad scientist things like trying to destroy the modern ecosystem and calling it a “natural part of life.”
Turo and Sada bought into the Occulture nonsense and their nonsense became reality
>except the professor had it on their shelf which means they read about it
You say that but reading and having an interest are two different things and the professor clearly didn't have an interest in collecting them all.
Also, it's worth noting that they may not even be the professor's. Arven was living in there for quite some time on his own after all.
>clearly didn't have an interest in collecting them all.
You find the rest of the Occulture magazines in the school library. The ones that were missing in the library are on the professor’s shelf. The professor was renting them out and reading about them.
>Also, it's worth noting that they may not even be the professor's. Arven was living in there for quite some time on his own after all.
It’s the professor’s lab. So the natural assumption is that it’s the professor that brought the books there. Unless you got proof Arven is the one that put Occulture on the professor’s shelf.
Occulture is part of the plot of dlc 2
Lmao I can't wait for Indigo Disk to drop and for you to unironically say that the dlc that was developed alongside the main game created a retcon.
If it's time travel, it's only like 10k years in the pasts, not millions or even billions into the past/future though.
Well, there's something else that has me thinking that it has something to do with terraforming: the professor's journal. The professor researched the crystals for over a decade, so they obviously understood their mechanics very well. The way they kept talking about using the crystals to "create paradise" like in
also makes me think they knew that it had capabilities to terraform or something.
>they're going to retcon everything before it
>wow ogerpon revealed to be the good guy all along retconned the entire teal mask story before it!!!!
you have to cover every image and text about terapagos with a gigantic spoiler warning not only because you shouldnt even dare to mention The King because you're a deformed troony subhuman goblin midget piece of shit but also because you cant spoiler my experience by the way its not like anything you say is relevant or even interesting in the slightest and your plebbit downie tier "theories" are better not to be read by any functioning brain of a being with a soul so its not a hard loss or even just a loss at all lol:)
>gays still debating if occulture is a red herring
They're tabloid magazines based on the book. The paradox pokemon were NEVER FOUND, hence being referred to as outlandish cryptids. /x/gay rejects are obsessed with them because they wish that their obsession was real too like the professors.
>They're tabloid magazines based on the book. The paradox pokemon were NEVER FOUND,
That's just untrue. Several Paradox mons have one or two reported sightings.
Yeah Billy just like bigfoot.
> let's make a weird mosiac turtle and call it a legendary pokemon!!
gen 9 legends were a mistake
stop bumping this thread. erase this thread immediately and then maybe recreate it with everything under spoiler included the replies
What?
>Terastal form Terapagos (Terastalized state)
The explorer says he didn't know if it was alive, so is this form more like a suspended animation state, but I still don't get what I'm seeing, is Terapagos on top of the disk or is it projecting a crystal hologram? who knows.
>people responding to the AI autist
Guy’s a shitposter who’s been at it for a real long time.
>AI autist
What's this new meme?
Not really new. A few shitposters just latch on to one argument, and argue in a circular way for hours every time it’s a thread. They’ll typically play both sides, so it’s best to ignore them.
Archive says AI autist literally just came to be with this post
Sounds like some stupid Ganker boogeyman like tendies.
I made the term up, but it’s mainly referring to the guy who insists that the AI wasn’t made by the professor, and that it somehow time traveled to them.
They’ve been doing this for months and they just got done with it in another thread. They got pretty pissy when people started discussing a theory that wasn’t theirs.
>I made the term up,
So let me get this straight, you made a boogeyman because of a theory, one that isn't uncommon at that, that you don't like?
I don’t care about arguing about theories, I just find him obnoxious
never made up a boogeyman, I made up a term to describe a persistent autist.
I don’t care if you don’t believe me, but you can see in the archive that he’s been consistently at this for a while. That’s how I found out.
>I just find him obnoxious
Anon, saying that there's another assistant isn't uncommon enough for you to say that it's one persistent autist. I've seen a few theories like that myself usually with Geeta or Briar either for the former's Glimmora which is common in Area Zero or the latter having the origins manuscript which is the only thing that name drops Terapagos which was blacked out in the first AZ journal.
Anyway point is, you're throwing a hissyfit just because people are discussing things you don't like.
NTA, but Briar can’t have been an old research assistant because then she wouldn’t be asking the academy for permission to go down there again - she’d just go.
Geeta I could see being a research assistant, but I’m an Atlantisgay who is convinced the reason she’s so unnatural is because she was native to Area Zero to begin with.
I'm not really here to discuss the specifics, I'm just saying that a lot of different people had the idea that the assistant mentioned isn't the AI.
You know how there's that one homosexual who's adamant that everything in SV is like some dreams to life nonsense and spends every single waking moment shitposting about time travel rather than proving imagination?
Because the AI was the topic in another thread a few hours ago and he got some details wrong he started calling everyone AI autist when he was corrected.
Honestly, it's not worth engaging him because the guy is going off the deep end.
Dokutaro is the reason the professor went mad
Galar Fire is he reason Calyrex split in two.
Why are we so sure the professor went crazy and wasn’t just like this from the start? Their journals mention the idea of “creating paradise” very early on, and while the journals do have a “descent into madness” vibe the further you go, it’s entirely possible that they were just… not a great person and obsessed with their work.
The AI even is surprised that they were programmed to keep the time machine going at all costs, as though it was all the professor cared about.
Cause he sounds so optimistic, when he brings the first raidon, he’s ecstatic and happy.
I’m assuming around that time he got possessed, so after their spouse leaves with arven, they just refer to them as “that man/woman” and “that boy”
Their paradise could’ve started as something legitimate, but got twisted as they were possessed.
The Spouse just left them with Arven, not with Arven?
I can’t remember exactly, but the main thing I’m pointing out is how they refer to them.
It seems incredibly strange to refer to them in such a cold manner
It's just some bullshit headcanon people made up and ran with because if you squint hard enough it fits their narrative. They obsessed with their research and were on the cusp of achieving their life goal. The PPP being aggressive is a better narrative than it being an emotionless system over a loudspeaker.
To add to this, we saw the AI display multiple personalities, which even had Arven questioning if they were their real parent after the initial battle, as well as the game implying it.
Shit like this is why these games need voice acting
>bullshit headcanon
That’s all theories
Dunno why you’re being such a sperg
there's a difference between
>this is what I think what happened
and
>this is what actually happened and i'm gonna do circles until you give up
Im not even going in circles though
What the frick is your problem?
>get offended
>pick fight
>get even angrier
go outside
You’re incredibly dumb
Goodbye
You sound like that imagination autist who just shits on everything that isn't imagination.
There's several hints towards that.
Clavell worked together with the professor quite some time ago in Area Zero. He remembers them very fondly and seemed to have grown close to them, so they must've been friendly people.
Then there's also the professor's robot clone, which was made with an AI that had the professors memories, opinions etc transferred digitally a while ago. Even the AI itself said that, despite the two having technically identical brain structures, they started disagreeing because the prof made irrational decisions that the AI could not understand. This implies that the professor's mindset has gone through significant changes after the AI was made.
Then there's also just the dialog in the final fight.
>"You wıll fal| herə, withın this gɑrden paradisə—and aɔhiəve n■thıng in the ənd."
>"Yo∪ wıll not be ɑllowed to dəstroy ⅿy parɑdise. Obstacləs t■ my goɑls WILL be elıminatəd."
>"The dɑta say I am the suÞerior. Fɑl|, and beɔome a foundɑtıon upon vvhıch my dreɑm may be bµilt."
These are clearly not the words of a mentally sound person, the professor was lost in their obsession when they made the PPP.
Dokutarogods?
I do think there's a link there, but we'll see
Emotions are not rational. The professor's goal was to create the paradise they saw in the Paradox Book. Both they and the AI knew bringing the Paradox Pokemon to the present would destroy the ecosystem, but because of the professor's emotions they would not stop following the path they were on. It's the same old "I'm doing this because it needs to be done" like Thanos. You don't need mind control or be driven crazy to make irrational decisions or recognize them as being irrational. They spent their entire life chasing their goal and they weren't going to stop until they completed it.
Mind control is a possibility, and it’s silly to deny that
The DLC has provided enough for us to make logical connections
Terapogos exists in the anime and there is neither creation or mind control. That is more canon than whatever drivel you create in your head.
I’m talking about Dokutaro
Hey, you know what. I respect your opinion. I will see you when DLC releases for this one.
My best guess after the anime spoilers
>"Rakua" is the 'paradise' that Heath and his crew found
>it became hidden for some reason
>Terapogos went dormant
>Professor obsesses over the book, builds a time machine and succeeds in finding the paradox pokemon
>they try to rebuild "Rakua" by keeping the machine running
>Briar will help with finding Terapogos and revealing "Rakua" is real and the paradox pokemon live there
I feel like the only way that everyone ends up happy, is if what Terapagos is guarding, ends up being the Sphere inside the Time Machine, being revealed to be a miniature garden world designed as some kind of Pocket Dimension paradise, which Terapagos is attempting to replicate in the real world. Then it could be true that Paradox Pokémon are based on real Pokémon, they were simple constructs originally brought to life to defend itself, but they had no lasting substance to stay, but they’ve since been brought to life by the Time Machine pulling them out of that world into ours, making them ‘real’.
It would make Terapagos a Demiurge, but that makes sense because Tera Energy and Tera Crystals act like a certain material the Demiurge uses that is ‘neutral’, but made up of multiple ‘elements’.
>it's a demiurge allegory
first remotely sensical theory i've heard on the imagination thing
Tell me about it. The guy who constantly posts his rebis cap posses me off because it has nothing to do with the demiurge.
Anon then it would be be time travel and literally everyone would be pissed since that would be a massive retcon and a loss to real world evolution lore which is rarely touched upon in pokemon as it is.
Anon, nobody cares
I still don't see why people are so opposed to the idea of time travel. It seems to be a /vp/ exclusive thing too because I never see any butthurt about it outside of here.
Sounds like you’re butthurt when people don’t think it’s time travel, anon
Case in point.
Case in point what?
That you’re getting upset over someone who doesn’t think it’s time travel. Maybe you oughta go outside
I don't think AZ is real, he's a PTSD demon of the Kalos MC. No one can be that big.
Anon no one is butthurt about alternative theories other than you with time travel.
You're proving my point.
I’m not the one replying to a theory and getting upset about it not being time travel though.
Feel free to live in this sad delusion you’ve created.
>I’m not the one replying to a theory and getting upset about it not being time travel though
You are though? Well not time travel, but you are clearly angry with people entertaining the idea of time travel and that's the point. Any mention of it sets you off.
>That you’re getting upset over someone who doesn’t think it’s time travel
Anon, you're getting upset at time travel because someone said that there are people who get upset at time travel.
You are LITERALLY a living example of what he's talking about.
These 2 posters are very mad.
Anon, you already replied to me once, I know you’re butthurt
I agree that it’s time travel
Then why did you get angry about time travel?
I think you need to cool off if you think that
>which Terapagos is attempting to replicate in the real world
Terapogos isn't trying to do jack shit, it was the professor trying to find the pokemon. Now you're gonna samegay the thread like always to shoehorn your demiurge shit in.
The game constantly talks about the idea of pursuing one's "treasure", not literally a physically valuable thing but the concept of following your dreams and achieving what makes you happy.
Terapagos represent both aspects of the theme. It is literally covered in gemstones and is able to create them but it can also manifest people's wishes and manipulate reality to allow them to make them happy, which is represented by terastallizing.
Gen 9 is so well written.
omg guys it's pennygay
You could make that exact same image but with "Because one character said so" for timetrannies and it would be infinitely more accurate.
It's almost as if citing the game is an important part of theory crafting for every theory other than imagination.
Don't engage with them, they're a schizo that repeats the same slop every couple of weeks before they go back into their hole. Call them on their bullshit and move on.
Tell me more about Mismagius' wish to be electric type
>Tired from living in the darkness of night it pursued living in the city which manifested as an electric teratype.
You can do the same thing with every other wild tera pokemon because every single one of them has a justification behind it.
>because every single one of them has a justification behind it.
It's more that you can bullshit an explanation because nothing in game touches on the pokemon wishing to be a type. I could say something like
>toxtricity wanted to be a ghost so it could rock out with it's wiener out without getting caught by the cops
And it would be valid by virtue of having no contradictions but it would also have no confirmation.
Are you getting mad over someting not time travel?
Shut the frick up about time travel.
We get it, you hate it, move on and let us talk about something else.
Now you sound really mad, maybe cool off little bit.
Her wish is to be on Ionos team.
>not literally a physically valuable thing but the concept of following your dreams and achieving what makes you happy.
>but it can also manifest people's wishes and manipulate reality to allow them to make them happy,
You know that they're conflicting ideas right? One being achieving a goal with hard work and persistence but the other being instant gratification with a wish.
That would be bad writing.
>which is represented by terastallizing
How? I mean, it's not like you can just choose the type you want your pokemon to become then and there, they have to be exposed to a specific type of Tera crystal and enough of it at that to change their Tera type.
It sounds more like alchemy than it does wish granting.
>One being achieving a goal with hard work and persistence but the other being instant gratification with a wish.
Yeah that's the point, that's why everyone who pursued Terapagos met a tragic end.
>You know that they're conflicting ideas right? One being achieving a goal with hard work and persistence but the other being instant gratification with a wish.
Anon??
Dokutaro is the one behind everything.
t has the ability to grant wishes… at a cost. With the Tera crystals, it’s wish granting abilities are amplified tenfold, allowing for the great things we’ve seen thus far.
Terapago
any average person playing through this game is gonna think it's about time travel. the game says it's time travel repeatedly, it shows it as time travel fairly explicitly, nothing about the paradox mons indicates anything but time travel, and the only character who allegedly questions it at all is the one who's skeptical about literally everything. the entire wish theory is predicated on digging way too deep and drawing schizo connections, and if it's right most people are going to be extremely confused. i don't think they'd do a fakeout that basically invalidates the entire plot of the game, sorry.
The average person playing this game is 10 years old so yeah. But the average adult who can read can definitely deduct that something is fishy about the Paradox Pokémon.
>nothing about the paradox mons indicates anything but time travel
Plain wrong. Even the dex entries and official descriptions mentions that their existence is dubious at best.
>Leading theories hold that this being is nothing less than a living relic of the dinosaur era, *but no one can say for sure*.
>Its primitive appearance and savage nature have *prompted rumors* that it could be a Jigglypuff from one billion years ago.
>Slither Wing shares traits with Volcarona, so some *theorize* that it may have been revived from fossils from a prehistoric era that we have discussed in these pages. *However, no Volcarona fossils of that era are known to have been found.*
>Plenty of *theories* about it have been floated. A leading one suggests it is the product of a *long-gone civilization*—a notion supported by ancient writings that describe the design and usage of machines resembling Iron Bundle.
Since you might have trouble with reading comprehension, I highlighted the parts that cast doubt on the origin of these Pokémon. Also, not how the description for the last one is Iron Bundle, a FUTURE Pokémon.
theories hold that this being is nothing less than a living relic of the dinosaur era, *but no one can say for sure*.
>>Its primitive appearance and savage nature have *prompted rumors* that it could be a Jigglypuff from one billion years ago.
Wing shares traits with Volcarona, so some *theorize* that it may have been revived from fossils from a prehistoric era that we have discussed in these pages. *However, no Volcarona fossils of that era are known to have been found.*
of *theories* about it have been floated. A leading one suggests it is the product of a *long-gone civilization*—a notion supported by ancient writings that describe the design and usage of machines resembling Iron Bundle.
Can you people please stop acting as if Occulture is real? The game is pretty blatant about how it doesn't mean anything.
Just a heads up, this guy has been doing this for ages now. He basically ignores the game and takes Occulture as gospel purely because he hates the idea of time travel.
>He basically ignores the game and takes Occulture as gospel purely because he hates the idea of time travel.
Time Travel theorists are the ones taking Occulture as gospel because it's literally the basis of the professor bringing the mons in from the time machine. You literally find entries of the magazine in their lab.
You're actually moronic.
>Time Travel theorists are the ones taking Occulture as gospel because it's literally the basis of the professor bringing the mons in from the time machine
That's why everyone who supports time travel always says that Turo wouldn't have made a time machine if he was inspired by Occulture, right.
>"nothing[!] about the paradox mons indicates anything but time travel"
>quote the game directly proving the opposite
>"AHBUHBUH NOOO OCCULTURE DOESN'T COUNT NOOOOO"
Well go frick yourselves then. You clearly just believe what you want to believe, fricking clowns.
>everyone who disagrees with me with le one guy!!
Shut the frick up. This is the first and LAST time I'll make a post like that because it's clearly fricking pointless
>because it's clearly fricking pointless
Of course it's pointless because you aren't fooling anyone. You've done the same shit for a year without changing your shtick.
>You clearly just believe what you want to believe
go back to /x/
What do you mean back, i have always 10 /x/ threads open at all times.
>Plain wrong. Even the dex entries and official descriptions mentions that their existence is dubious at best.
Why are you lying?
Wing shares traits with Volcarona, so some *theorize* that it may have been revived from fossils from a prehistoric era that we have discussed in these pages. *However, no Volcarona fossils of that era are known to have been found.*
Ignoring the fact that Occulture is literally just fiction based on the paradox descriptions in the book and no one who wrote them ever encountered one, volcarona fossils wouldn't exist in a era before they evolved into volcarona.
>and official descriptions
Strange, all of the TCG cards refer to the Paradox Books, not the magazines. It's almost like they're there to fool you into thinking they're not real.
>alternate version dex entries
literally sourced from a fricking tabloid
We dont care what average person thinks.
I fricking hate the "gimmick of the gen" design philosophy.
>ancient civilization blows itself up trying to harness Terapagos' power
>Terapagos is now dormant
>eons later Heath stumbles upon it and the paradox and writes the book
>sometime after momo grants the loyal three's desire and makes them it's slave sending them after Ogerpon and her master for the masks that contain Terapagos' power
>after failing to retrieve the masks because Ogrepon killed the three it learns about Paldea and the actual Terapagos making it's way there
>meanwhile the book inspires the professor to make time machine to find the paradoxes
>momo possesses the professor and corrupts their dream into one that would cause as much chaos as possible allowing it access to Terapagos' power without interruption
>mystery assistant comes along and fricks things up nby making the AI and because it's an AI it can't be possessed
>mystery person scrubs their name and Terapagos' from the journal and AI and bolts
>momo then goes to Kitakami after the professor dies to revive the loyal three but doesn't have enough power while you unintentionally get rid of the final barrier between it and Terapagos
>it possesses Kieran and uses his anger to revive the loyal three but it can't reveal itself so they just continue looking for the masks
There, everyone is happy
I'm surprised at how autistic timetravelgays and imaginaitongays are. it's been almost a year with the same exact arguments, don't you get tired of it?
Some of us have tried to discuss new details from the anime, but the imaginationgays always bait people back into the same arguments. They have nothing new so that's all they can do. People fall for it because they actually want to discuss the story and the same 2 schizo narratives are the only one people will respond with. Once it was proven that Terapogos isn't some wish creating god in the anime, they either straight up refused to engage or declared it wasn't canon.
I honestly don't know if this is bait or not
Here's the thing, every single time we we try to talk about something new our resident imaginationgays sperg barrels in and screeches his head off saying the same things he's been saying for a year now.
>IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE OCCULTURE SAYS THERE WERE NO FOSSILS
>PENNY SAID BECOME WHO YOU WANT TO BE
Blah blah blah.
And when he doesn't get replies he just pretends to be a timegay and then does shit like name calling himself. He even tried to do it earlier with the fricking AIgay nonsense because talking about the AI set him off for some reason.
Probably not, you can see him samegayging all over the thread, even just beliw your post, it's just that he's pretty bad at it
The guys replying to you are probably the same guy
I don't really care if it is or isn't a samegay because I'm more surprised atleast one anon replied to my post trying to defend himself by doing the exact thing thing I called autistic. At the very least I got answer to my question, the threads are either filled with bored shitposters who don't even care about the theories or anons who are way too obsessed with defending their theories. It's a shame, because without all this imaginationgay timetravelgay nonsense this would have been really fun to speculate about
>atleast one anon replied to my post trying to defend himself by doing the exact thing thing I called autistic.
Wut. Did you read the two posts properly?
Anyway, where my fellow Atlantis chads at? How we feeling? I'm feeling pretty good.
Basically done deal. We won so hard.
Never stop atlantisgay.
You're like our
>tfw no MH on vita
What is Atlantis theory, that there's a ancient civilization in area zero?
Yup. Area Zero is called Atlantis in the internal game files, and there's a few hints towards a 10000 year old civilization. The whole stuff with Rakua in the Horizons anime also points towards it.
They way you talked about it makes it seem like people denied it, which is weird since it doesn't contradict any of the other theories I know of. I guess some people don't like ancient civilizations
I mean just look at the post two above yours. There's plenty of people who refuse to even consider it as a theory.
But I think those people are just trying to stir shit and call every single theory moronic cause they are just in for the trolling and probably didn't even play the game.
>But I think those people are just trying to stir shit and call every single theory moronic cause they are just in for the trolling and probably didn't even play the game.
I WISH these anons had something better to do with their TIME hehehe
Weird that they don't make any threads about Clive and Clavell being different people or Clavell being Cassiopeia instead.... The game LITERALLY says it!
I dont think Timegays are that moronic anon.
Yeah, they aren't, they just pretend to be.
Not them, but I think it’s pretty flexible and can fit into a lot of theories
I don’t get why people are anal about it
>I don’t get why people are anal about it
Either severe autism or just shitposting, really
As you said, it doesn't even disprove any other theories, INCLUDING time travel, which is proof that that one anon is just baiting
>They way you talked about it makes it seem like people denied it, which is weird since it doesn't contradict any of the other theories I know of
Pretty much only imaginationgay tries to deny it, while most generally try to incorporate it into other theories.
One that's coming up a lot is that the technology for AIs came from the ancient civilisation and was stored in Terapagos' crystals like the memories of the professor
>Pretty much only imaginationgay tries to deny it
Not true, see
Unless you mean that he's falseflagger, that might be true then
I don't even know how an ancient civilization is pro or against either theory, it can work with both. An anon earlier said it's probably just shitposting from people who haven't even played the game and I think he's right
>Unless you mean that he's falseflagger
On the nose.
He's usually over the top when it comes to falseflagging saying things like
>IT CAN ONLY BE TIME TRAVEL NOTHING ELSE IT LITERALLY SAYS TIME TRAVEL
You can tell when it's him because unlike every other theorist here he never references the game and just screeches.
It might be my fault that he's like this though, because when lore threads for SV started going into full swing I would kind of unintentionally tear apart imagination because I was curious about it and why people believed in it. And when I wouldn't get straight answers I would bring up time travel and say how the game has evidence for it and that I'd like to see what led to his conclusion.
I guess the scrutiny broke him at some point.
Yeah I'm pretty sure he's just baiting. If not, then he's just omega autistic. Either way, who cares tbh. No point in discussing with him since he would never change his opinion.
there's also the fact that he, or someone just as annoying, is a literal ESL
it's literally time travel lmao. I come into these threads and all of you are schizos with fake headcanons ignoring what the game says
If you want people to believe that you actually believe time travel and aren't just pissed off about it existing then stop trying so hard.
projecting much? pokemon already has celebi and dialga. you time travel in hgss to fight giovanni. bill has a time capsule trading center. the professor made a time machine to get pokemon from the past and future.
and heath seeing paradox pokemon in the past is obviously because the professor used the time machine to send paradoxes to the past. case closed
>he didn't do Arven's academy stuff
you're the only one ignoring the game
Time travel trolls didn't play the game, they just shitpost about it.
I think you're over reacting anon. So long as you did that for every imagination theorist you saw and didn't just target him specifically you didn't cause anything, especially since there's a good chance he's just a shitposter who only cares about yous
>there's a good chance he's just a shitposter who only cares about yous
I mean, usually with shitposters they don't get this angry about it.
Go to Ganker when a new game releases and you'll have anons posting shit way more unhinged. Anons getting their kicks by being annoying and ruining discussion is not something new. Pretending to be angry is the best way to accomplish that.
I can assure you that people like Eric don't pretend. He goes off the deep end.
Atlantis is just codename for imaginationhomosexualry. You aren't fooling anyone, it's fricking time travel the game LITERALLY says it.
Meds.
Atlantis implies it isn't time travel and is instead just some fabrication of an ancient society. Except no one cares about your autistic headcanon because it's ultimately still just time travel.
>Same shit different name
Yeah, the one taking the theory with no basis and getting even fricking crazier with it here is you. Meds.
Medication. Take it.
>Medication. Take it.
It's time travel. Accept it.
It is literally a time machine what more does this homosexual want? Imagination and Imaginationtheory2 have absolutely ZERO credence in the game itself.
Holy fricking shit just play it. You're worse than that autist that tries to say there's no mega or non-mega universe.
Anyone else notice how the theme of this game is seemingly Nautical? Atlantis being Area Zero could be more than just a name, but referencing an ancient civilization with technology and knowledge beyond modern day, that was sunk beneath the waves.
Terapagos is depicted with a Ship in it’s tail, despite not being actual water but perhaps indicating size, as well as being in the middle of a ancient volcanic crater.
The Tablet in Area Zero is an ancient chart depicting stellar cartography, much like ancient mariners marked their maps with the stars, seemingly placing Area Zero as the epicenter of recordings, which Turtle Dragons, like Terapagos, were famous for being add ons as mystery’s of the unknown regions, said to live where no one has charted. The Map has the v and ^, with two 0’s, which likely represented the Horizon, and the star being observed, to fixate their position.
Tera pages maybe a Chen in it’s normal form, a Fuzonglong in it’s Terastal form, but it may be a Aspidchelone, or a Zartan, a massive island turtle, not a world turtle, in reference to the above Maps and Mythology reasoning. Being an Acient sea faring Turtle that holds the worlds knowledge.
Yep, there's definitely a few Nautical themes in the game, but it makes sense for a region based on Spain on Portugal.
Area Zero and the Scarlet/Violet Book might be both based on Jules Verne's stories "Journey to the Center of the Earth" and" Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Seas", plus the general Age of Discovery of which Iberia played a huge role in. The first DLC story is also a reference to the latter since the Tera crystals there originated from a Paldean trader who came to the Kitakami region hundreds of years ago. Japan and Portugal also had a lot of trade going on back then.
Don't forget that the compass is also a consistent visual theme in the game. Possibly more a reference to the open world theme, but still, compasses are also very important to nautical travel. It's the loading screen icon, and the icon of the Pokémon League in Paldea (all E4 members and Geeta have the symbol on their gloves).
This one is maybe a bit of a stretch, but Penny's story is all about constellations. Her alias is Cassiopeia, and all the Team Star bases are named after the 5 brightest stars within the Cassiopeia constellation. Celestial navigation used to be extremely important for long distance nautical travel.
It definitely feels like space is going to end up being the answer to Terapagos, perhaps even Ultra Space, and it’s navigating it’s way ‘home’ from Earth, but needs help to find the right dimension?
Huh? No one brought up space. What made you think that?
I am, with the whole navigation thing? The weird symbols on the book are forms of math, science, and even navigation, which could be applied to both normal 3d space, but also to dimensions beyond. If Earth was a point of reference, they could be trying to reach into other worlds with the Time Machine, alternate realities, via Ultra Space.
I’m just theorizing here, and spitballing ideas.
I see. Well, you said Nautical, which refers to sea travel exclusively, so I was confused why you brought up space all of a sudden.
Yeah, there’s nautical theme ing, but lots of Stellar Cartography references, with compasses, the team Star Names along with Cassiopeia being constellations. Terapagos being observed ‘among stars’ even if it’s just an optical illusion.
Timetravelschizo be like "The Defenders of Kalos can't be Dexio and Sina, the game LITERALLY says so!"
Thread pretty much tells me that timegays are fricking annoying hypocrites
Can’t even discuss Dokutaro, the Atlantis theory, etc without people sperging out about THEORIES
They're not hypocrites, they are underage trolls
>BROS, DOKUTARO, IT'S IMAGINATION
ok what else
>UHH.....IMAGINATION
ok great, anyways
>he thinks the loyal 3 time traveled and not revived from a confirmed wish granter
>thread about Terapagos competitive prediction
>reaches bump limit but thanks to tera theoring