They weren't thinking.
They thought that two different games stapled together would appeal to everyone (most of whom were fans of a completely different game) rather than being very niche.
didn't play TI
i have like 128 vram lol
too bad it won't have multiplayer, seems easier to implement than ai
initiative and servants seem most based.
i may sadly never play get to play it, but i could buy it and refund it if it doesn't work on my machine
just got myself spoiled for initiative ending it's the most badass thing ever taking over aliens and rest of humanity under illuminati. if i ever upgrade my rig i am buying TI
>Protectorate above Servants >Protectorate above anyone
I can understand people having widely different opinions about which faction is the best, but I thought everyone agreed that Protectorate was the absolute worst.
It's amazing how shitty Banerjee is as a person. I get that he's a former UN guy and he's seen some shit, but nothing really justifies the whole endless copium spiralling and purging the faction of all doubters of the "let's build an orbital laser panopticon because the ayys say so" plan
One interesting thing to note about Bannerjee is that the protectorate never discovers the pherocytes or develops countermeasures for them. Even Judith is somehow immune. When the aliens present her with the orbital laser panopticon plan, she defies them, because she sincerely believes that her way is better for the aliens.
Bannerjee, meanwhile, becomes increasingly radical in his total obedience. He's almost certainly under mind control.
Protectorate dehumanizes humanity less than the Servants, meanwhile Exodus might as well equal self-genocide, or at the very least a self-purge of all normal human ethics, as exemplified by Battle of Darkness in the Three Body series.
Yes. Humanity leaving Earth permanently is like throwing a baby out to grow in the woods except 10 times worse. Whatever will become of the Exodus people will either be dead bones or inhuman creatures with a mentality so different that they might as well be Ayys to us.
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Dark Forest theory is quite moronic and basically a product of Chinese prosecution complex paranoia from colonialism, but the part about Spaceship Earth genociding and eating itself was 100% on point
Brainlet here.
Why is Dark Forest theory dumb?
I don't see much problem with it, although I think it's a bit grim.
>Whatever will become of the Mayflower people will either be dead bones or inhuman creatures with a mentality so different that they might as well be demons to us.
The Americas were not in another star system.
Yes. Humanity leaving Earth permanently is like throwing a baby out to grow in the woods except 10 times worse. Whatever will become of the Exodus people will either be dead bones or inhuman creatures with a mentality so different that they might as well be Ayys to us.
[...]
Dark Forest theory is quite moronic and basically a product of Chinese prosecution complex paranoia from colonialism, but the part about Spaceship Earth genociding and eating itself was 100% on point
I doubt it, it could be prevented with a few safe-guards.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Why is Dark Forest theory dumb?
Because for nearly every possible interstellar distance method of interaction (including almost every form of FTL) maintaining a Dark Forest is a horrible survival strategy for every civilization involved in it. If you have the means, the energy and the resources to efficiently and reliably splat other intelligent civilizations wholesale before they splat you - then you can win over every other Dark Forest adherent civilization by using those means, energy and resources to spread your presence and influence (which might include some splatting) instead of indiscriminate splatting. You do that and you win, because very soon after you have more means, energy and resources than all of your potential threats which were too busy hiding to expand. Which means that Dark Forest is an inherently extremely unstable situation - it is maintained only until at least one civilization successfully spreads out, at which point it's no longer in effect.
This is why the life on Earth is the way it is - there are no successful organisms that succeed by eliminating all competition at the cost of their own growth, reproduction and expansion. If those don't come first then someone else out-grows you. There are no Dark Forests in actual real ecosystems since this strategy loses due to math on every scale possible.
>but killing potential threatening civilizations is simple just hurl relativistic rocks at them
If you can throw rocks then they can stop rocks, and if you can throw rocks you can also load those rocks up on stuff and people or robots and go make something useful with them instead. Even if the hypothetical FTL is assumed to be straight up free unlimited range teleportation - then using it to spread beats using it to glass everyone, and you actually can't reliably glass anyone since they can use the same FTL to escape wherever.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The Dark Forest works- provided the species in question uses it to home in on new colonial holdings. Just blowing up the planet is a tremendous waste, destroying the leadership with pinpoint strikes and then forcing the natives into your governing structure is much more productive. The Course of Empire by Eric Flint touches on that fact- aliens occupy earth in order to access our resources.
In the Forge of God- probably the best Dark Forest sci-fi book- the aliens destroy earth with von Neumann type probes. The probes use the resources from the destroyed earth to target more planets and whether the originating species even still exists is irrelevant. On the flip side, there are other aliens who use similar probes to protect, or at least save from extinction, species who have run afoul of them. It also has a really well written and thoughtful bit about how the galaxy is just another form of ecology and even entire planets can be seen as superorganisms.
Yes. Humanity leaving Earth permanently is like throwing a baby out to grow in the woods except 10 times worse. Whatever will become of the Exodus people will either be dead bones or inhuman creatures with a mentality so different that they might as well be Ayys to us.
he believes in dork forest nonsense, don't bother.
Dark Forest theory is quite moronic and basically a product of Chinese prosecution complex paranoia from colonialism, but the part about Spaceship Earth genociding and eating itself was 100% on point
That baby cannot live in a cradle forever, anon.
Also the first contact and the widespread adoption of alien technology is necessarily going to change humanity, so the psychological damage is already done. The Resistance is the only faction who even expresses an interest in preserving humanity in the sense of preserving the spirit of pre-invasion humanity, and there's no reason to think they could succeed.
Also also, Project Exodus is the only faction that isn't trying to enforce its vision of the future on everyone else. It's just gonna be a small group of colonists. It's a bit odd to rank that outcome worse than an Initiative victory, which means not just shifting mankind's focus away from Earth to the control of an interstellar empire, but also enslaving every living thing both on Earth and outside it to serve this goal.
>Whatever will become of the Mayflower people will either be dead bones or inhuman creatures with a mentality so different that they might as well be demons to us.
>Dark Forest theory is quite moronic and basically a product of Chinese prosecution complex paranoia from colonialism
bro there's no way you think liu cixin was the one to come up with this theory. right?
>dehumanises humanity less
What the frick is this meant to mean? LARPing as Breen while your species gets blown up for building a rocket is less dehumanising than Judith's plan?
Idgaf about lore or story, but from a gameplay pov protectorate is shit. You don't get to enjoy the ayys not slapping your shit like the servants do, yet you're not supposed to oppose them either. I had one game with them and it basically ended up as total war against ayys so I could build the fricking stations they ordered in peace.
Protectorate is also kinda bloat.
Removing Protectorate would be better because then >less bloat >give some protectorate shit to servants >servants would be 1v5 instead of 2v5 making them less trivial
Thinking, but do you think servants should get extra objectives of having to turn earth into a paradise by removing all pollution to win so they aren't so easy to play.
Factions in order of usefulness.
Exodus is worthless.
Servants are worthless.
Protectorate can argue that they have a point: kneel now so humanity can stand later.
Resistance wants to prevent alien domination, but without a means to kill aliens preventing their domination would require us to be able to invade their homeworlds.
Initiative wants to make money. At least they're honest.
Academy may be naive to think that the aliens can be trusted to respect allies, but at least they want to approach alien negotiation from a point of power.
Humanity First is the best faction.
Except the protectorate are absolute fricking cucks. It's not "kneel now so humanity can stand later" it's "kneel for as long as the protectorate maintains their orbital death stations"
You have to consider, there are people who think national pride is a bad thing in this world.
So take that to a global scale.
There are legit people, in your very country, who would shit talk humanity and try to surrender to the aliens in real life, too.
>There are legit people, in your very country, who would shit talk humanity and try to surrender to the aliens in real life, too.
that would completely depend on the aliens wouldnt it?
like if the aliens were obviously more advanced in every aspect
No but the just released update is a promising start in the right direction. You get a range of difficulty slider options rather than an autistic vision of 'le darksouls of xcom strategy'. You can basically outright disable the ayys and have a virtual sandbox style campaign.
The devs should have probably made a modding tool during the initial burst of interest so that more dedicated, and talented, autists could do it for free on their behalf and make a better game but hopefully it's on their agenda at some point.
That's a great start, but they also need to fix:
Nation management being a pain in the ass.
Defend interests being simultaneously absolutely necessary and completely invincible, unless the computer RNGs a 1% to frick it.
Factions not being permanently killable.
And more.
>resistance making sense >We don't want to kill the aliens but we do want to oppose them and just kind of hope they won't send a nuke first
Academy at least wants to bring a definitive end to the alien conflict by being stronger than them.
Exodus is the only faction that doesn' make sense. Because even if they succeed and flee to a habitable other planet, settle it and restart humanity then what? The hydra already got to our solar system. Exodus won't be able to stop them from setting up shop where ever they went. They're basically doing all the hard work for them in colonizing another system.
The protectorate make more sense if you interpret them as always being compromised from the start by the alien brainwashing. The servants are the result of drugs and a naive belief that the aliens are somehow better. However the servants secure a pretty decent deal for humanity as long as you don't mind us not exactly at the top of their hierarchy. Though one could argue that since the aliens seem to have pretty low populations, humanity will dominate simply because there are billions of us and we can spread everywhere like rabbits.
Resistance is not unrealistic to imagine a faction of people too squeamish to go as hard-core as humanity first. They just want the problem to go away without worrying as much about long term implications.
I love how the servants legitimately have bigger balls than the protectorate when it comes to even defending humanity at least. If Bannerjeet isn't compromised it's hilarious to think of gruff no-nonsense types accepting the type of shit Austria gave to Serbia expecting them to reject it, just because they're convinced they've lost already, meanwhile the actual alien dicksuckers outright say >Nope, we want better terms
and they fricking get them
Initiative is kino, they're look like morons because a faction outright presenting as "WE'RE THE ILLUMINATI AND WE WANT TO RULE EVERYTHING" would be an in-universe mistake.
The WEF is in fact real, and if you follow their documents and presentations (literally available on their own website lmao), they're very big into the idea that they're going to use "emerging technologies" to basically become immortal, extending their lives through gene therapy and bionic implants and such, and so they believe they need to drastically cull the human population (note: this includes you, sorry, being a good boy doesn't mean you'll be spared) in order to conserve resources so they can build an empire in outer space. They literally believe that and you can read up on it on their website. It’s not le facebook boomer boogyman stuff.
I don’t give a shit about simplistic narratives written by stupid and poor people to convince themselves they’re important, well done wasting your time writing all that
9 months ago
Anonymous
What?
You can just admit you're barely literate and can only read at maximum a singular small sentence because your mind's been fried by social media, y'know. Nothing I'm talking about is hard to grasp or even look. Like, homie. Everything I mentioned is on the World Economic Forum's own website. I understand it's tedious to read, but it’s all there if you want to go read it. It’s not like I just make this stuff up.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Pay attention to me and my corny sci-fi story I wrote to distract myself from the fact I’m a low education and low IQ peon at McDonalds
No thanks
9 months ago
Anonymous
If I'm a low IQ peon, then what are you exactly?
That aside, it isn't a sci-fi story. Literally just look on the WEF website, you waste of Ganker(nel)'s bandwidth.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>your mind's been fried by social media
ironic
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't even use Facebook.
Considering the fact you're here on this site, that isn't the own you think it is.
That's cool and all, but I don't see what it has to do with video games.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't see what rambling about ESLs has to do with vidya, but a certain someone on this board sure loves to do it.
mad?
Not really, just bored of your shit. Freshen up your schtick already.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>say some stupid ESL shit about WEF and Soros or whatever >get called an ESL >b***h about being called an ESL
no wonder you never finished school
9 months ago
Anonymous
At this point you're just either lying on purpose or you're a very stupid person who is incapable of entertaining a thought you disagree with.
Again, reminder: all on their website. No conspiracy theory here, just people like you who are too lazy to read.
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
Anonymous
epic conspiracy theories like your gay WEF thing are for morons who need the world explained to them in the guise of a movie like the matrix usually revolving around tropes like secretive elites, mass surveillance, population control etc. these appeal to low grade people in society who arrogantly think they’re important enough to be subject to a conspiracy such as min wage workers, ranting homeless guys at bus stops, and as mentioned, boomers on facebook.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>WEF >conspiracy theory
9 months ago
Anonymous
did you not read the parts where he was talking about the WEFs population control and space empire? dumb ESL
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
Anonymous
Wow, a random contextless screenshot. I’m really getting the talking to a dumb boomer on Facebook experience rn lol
Holy shit I didn't even notice you calling mass surveillance a "trope" in the post-Wikileaks world. This is a joke, right? Jeez, your whole post reads like some copium that wouldn't look out of place in Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago. >oh no they'd never do anything to me, I'm not important!
Nobody is doing anything with your data specifically lol. I swear this website is full of narcissistic low IQoids who need to invent persecution stories to make up for the fact they’re unimportant and inconsequential
9 months ago
Anonymous
Call me some facebook boomer as much as you want, doesn't change that the WEF has a ton of types like this
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody is targeting you and you’re unimportant. Sorry
9 months ago
Anonymous
yeah they're just targeting humanity as a whole moron-kun
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ask yourself why people with jobs don't obsess over these kinds of things and instead it's always underachieving useless people who spend all day online
9 months ago
Anonymous
Do you have a job?
If so, why aren't you spending time on your job instead of bothering to try and DEBOOOOOOOOONK people you see as loser kooks online?
/misc/ and /gsg/ alike and their consequences have been a disaster for the /vst/ race.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't mean to attach that pic. Suffering.
9 months ago
Anonymous
i do have a job though
9 months ago
Anonymous
I have a job, been to Davos and everything you said is stupidly moronic bull. It is the kind of moronic nonsense people say when they have no issue with their government and economy being subverted by hostile foreign influences. You are the fifth column, morono, and idiots like you do much more damage than the WEF ever could by simply not caring.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I have a job, been to Davos
stopped reading there. nice fantasy you strange little facebook creature
9 months ago
Anonymous
Are you just trying to get a rise out of people or are you genuinely deluding yourself? Serious question.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Hahaha you're so mad
9 months ago
Anonymous
Reading this post gave me a headache, not in the "wtf am I reading" way, but more in the "is this homie serious" way. Then again, you are the dense motherfricker who thought the US government would shoot climate refugees, so then again trying to initiate dialogue with you in the first place was a losing battle.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit I didn't even notice you calling mass surveillance a "trope" in the post-Wikileaks world. This is a joke, right? Jeez, your whole post reads like some copium that wouldn't look out of place in Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago. >oh no they'd never do anything to me, I'm not important!
Yeah. They should've merged Protectorate and Servants into one pro-alien faction and maybe split Resistance partly into Academy and partly into Humanity First. In addition to giving each faction more unique gameplay, giving them branching paths that they can go down would also go a long way towards making them more interesting. For the pro-alien faction they'd be able to choose between willfully or begrudgingly serving the aliens. Also change them to be more a coalition of people who would rather risk alien rule because they're so fed up with Earth elites. Humanity first could have to choose whether they're hostile to all aliens or just the Hydras. Giving Exodus the ability to steal the wormhole tech would've been great too.
I like Exodus despite how weak and bland they are compared to the others. It's the only faction without ideological opposition and being chill with everyone else, while proposing an out of the box solution.
Migrating away is not a bad plan either, though it matters how FAR. I don't remember their questline, but another galaxy with a one-of-a-kind MacGuffin would seem good enough.
Shame about Khalid looking like a frog, the game is clearly made by israelites.
The only problem is, do they consider how the Hydra are bound to follow them? Even if they don't follow them immediately, there's absolutely no reason they can't park at the edge of whatever system they set up in and open a new wormhole. Are they going to run once more?
That's what I meant by the galaxy-hopping MacGuffin. They need a unique tech utilizing the wormhole.
Hopping over just to Proxima is dumb as frick. Spending tens of thousands of years on a shitty generation ship is equally dumb.
Quick jump to another galaxy to a life-supporting star? Perfect solution. The ayys can't follow because they lack the MacGuffin tech.and even if they could, they don't know the coordinates in the vastness of space - nor would they care at that point.
If they had that, it would be a game changing weapon that they could then use to immediately frick the ayys up on their territory. I'm charitably assuming that Exodus think fighting is pointless. They would have a point in a 'knife in a gun fight' mindset.
Even if you can get the upper hand on the ayys, technically speaking there's no reason that they couldn't just launch a giant space rock at Earth and call it a day. Nothing we could do about it, and we have no realistic method of attacking the wormhole without the hindsight of the different ways other factions figure it out.
>If they had that, it would be a game changing weapon that they could then use to immediately frick the ayys up on their territory
No, it wouldn't be.
Like you didn't even read my post. It would be a one-of-a-kind one-time-use item that dumps you unimaginably far.
>Even if you can get the upper hand on the ayys, technically speaking there's no reason that they couldn't just launch a giant space rock at Earth and call it a day. Nothing we could do about it, and we have no realistic method of attacking the wormhole without the hindsight of the different ways other factions figure it out.
I'm not sure I'm following you, but Exodus doesn't give a shit about Earth. They could get an experimental, non-viable and dangerous skip drive to sneak upon or suicide into the ayys to get the wormhole.
I only played the leaked beta for a short time and I'm not up on the lore, but there ARE ways to write around it, so stop being such a naysayer.
They interrogate a hydra specifically to learn where they live so they can go the opposite way. The hydra aren't very widespread, and interstellar travel is still difficult and expensive for them. I think it's reasonable to expect that they wouldn't give chase.
Humanity only got fricked by the hydra due to the tech discrepancy. The nature of the wormholes means that the amount you can send is pathetically small. Earth 2.0 with end game technology and fleets would walk all over any attempted hydra invasion.
Is everything a sitting duck always against Advanced Alien Spinal Mag Cannons or is there some tech I don't know about to counter them? Seems like they can pick off anything easily, including armed to the teeth battlestations, and their ammo is 450
You do get a public opinion bonus, but that is much lower than the CP-bonus from neighbours. I maintain high approval ratings mostly for the crackdown/purge defense stuff, because it stacks with the economic bonus and 'defend CP'-thing.
Also contributes to cohesion if you control the control points as well I think. Not totally sure what the game means by 'elite', but I'm pretty sure its talking about the control points
I hadn't played this since November, just dove in again. Lots of good quality of life changes that addressed the pain points I had with org and councillor management. How is the space combat phase? I always got put off once I got into space as I'm too brainlet to understand all the delta v and kps and mgs stuff.
The space combat was the most polished on launch from what I can tell and hasn't changed a ton. QOL stuff like missile volleys were added, but I haven't used them myself yet.
Wiki whatever you don't understand. dV is acceleration
Play a better game instead.
Highfleet has functional ship customization, for example.
XCom has functional alien fighting.
Any map painter is better than this one (you can't arbitrarily lose countries for no reason).
That's Initiative.
Servants also frick alien pussy, but for them it's more like the aliens are just being tsundere, and Howell wants to fix them with the power of true love and get married.
Americans are unironically so poisoned by individualistic bullshit that they can't grasp that something doesn't have to be specifically targeting them in order to effect them
Anyways, saying they have a plan to invade space or whatever gives the WEF way too much credit
I'd like to sit down with Klaus Schwab and his israeli handler Noah Harari and ask them to explain why, if they are bringing forth a post-human world, it is important that we have mass immigration, wars with Russia and China, and promote transgenderism
Wouldn't transhumanism render all these petty social issues moot in the first place? I don't get it
is it a bad idea to focus only on a single big nation and not take anything else for the rest of the game? i'm having fun with turning europe into a world power but it's always nerve wracking when public supports starts going down because some Black folk decided to pay me a visit
If you're going to do that, may I introduce you to the 'French Colonial Strategy' play.
Where you focus on your core nation (or nations), and plunder nations that are easy to take (African, South American, some Middle Eastern) with 100% spoils.
i don't like doing that because i larp as being the good guys (turning nations into developed, peaceful and functioning states). it's especially entertaining when america turns into a totalitarian terror state (happens every game for some reason) and the only democracies left in the world are the EU and Australia
Its the cohesion mechanic. America has one of the worst I've looked at, it constantly goes to 0 unless you're pumping cohesion big time. Add on the events where global cohesion score goes down by 1 and its lights out for democracy
Just like in real life? Democracy requires participation to work. If nobody feels like they're part of the same system it isn't going to work. Though I think the devs exaggerate america's social cohesion issues. Twitter noise makes it seem worse than it really is. Most regular people don't really give a shit too much.
This is the game where current levels of global warming decrease GDP by 2% per year, after all.
9 months ago
Anonymous
why not decrease for some but increase for other?
russia getting warmer would help them a lot for example(same for canada)
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ecologically protected areas don't suffer any impacts from climate change while ecologically vulnerable regions suffer twice as much. So at game start a bunch of places have as much as -4% annual GDP, and thus have to reach above 4% annual GDP growth to actually experience any growth whatsoever.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I wish there was just a better handwave to explain this, like that the aliens have started to hard teraform earth more than they're indicated to do solely with their purple plants. I understand it as a mechanic so you can't just snowball a ultra nation with 20 billion per capita gdp but it just smacks of shitty muh climate change.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I can understand exacerbating it so that it actually has tangible gameplay impacts. The real problem is that they've explicitly said that they don't want climate change to be something you can fix (even though the game has humans unlocking super massive fusion reactors, harnessing antimatter, and plenty of technologies explicitly aimed at allowing us to control climate change). That and just how worthless welfare spending is for actually mitigating climate change.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It definitely feels lame that you can't be rewarded for investing a massive amount of energy into 'cleaning up' the earth. Even when you've turned the sun into a small dyson cloud of nano factories churning out infinite cash. That sort of energy should make it trivial to do the sort of things that would make Al Gore jizz his pants without breaking a sweat. The reward is you get a super wealthy mega nation. The benefits are trivial anyway at that point, as all your other off-earth stations are going to absolutely outpace anything you can do on the planet (which is, by itself, sort of ridiculous. An entire nation of scientists can't beat 5,000 researchers around mercury?
Just seems like a tremendous missed opportunity to really lean into Alpha Centauri style "here's where humanity has gone in such a short period of time" changes.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>global warming reducing GDP
The factory has air conditioning, get back to work.
i don't like doing that because i larp as being the good guys (turning nations into developed, peaceful and functioning states). it's especially entertaining when america turns into a totalitarian terror state (happens every game for some reason) and the only democracies left in the world are the EU and Australia
Ironic since the EU isn't a democracy due to unelected people in Brussels having control of member nations.
This is the game where current levels of global warming decrease GDP by 2% per year, after all.
Well, the US is so powerful and in a game where there are limited seats for the factions the devs were probably trying to make some things more interesting than they would be in real life. Like maybe they want to hold the door open for the US splitting in the 2020s and 2030s instead of all of the US only to one faction always
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, this game is nothing but moronic political ideology over a thin disguise of very simple mechanics. Pollution mechanics (which global warming falls under) could have done all sorts of things, but instead just just causes a flat GDP decrease across the board regardless of location and has nothing to do with the alien invasion nor are there any technologies or mechanics to reverse it. Fly around in fricking space ships, but you can't put up a simple solar shield or do carbon recapture. As for the US, it is given low cohesion because "lol Trump".
9 months ago
Anonymous
The alien fauna affects the gases in the atmosphere I'm pretty sure. And the alien AI prioritization is pretty negligent of the atmosphere
9 months ago
Anonymous
Actually, no. Gases in the atmosphere effect xenoforming and not the other way around.
It grows faster with more CO2.
Source: ran an all-spoils game for shits and giggles and Africa turned into a purple jungle
9 months ago
Anonymous
its an improvement
9 months ago
Anonymous
But you've seen the numbers and know the fauna doesn't affect the atmosphere gases? You're sure CO2 and fauna aren't feeding off each other?
It's not persuade, but assault.
And no, I can't say I've seen one but I'm sure some ultra-rare unique org has it.
Just build a ship with marines on it and use that for assaults. Any shitty ship will enable you to assault multiple targets during a turn.
IIRC I used basic plasma drives with 3 marines on a destroyer hull. Took 200 days, but I can take over anything around Earth.
No there is a persuade mission that astronauts have, and maybe other councilors IDK. But its called control not persuade. I looked for an org list with missions for this but couldn't find a list.
Is this game comfy yet or are you always playing against a time limit still?
HFY is all stick
Academy is stick + carrot plus tax plus tip plus reparations for planetary invasion
rest is moronic
I find the lategame far more tedious than the early, at least early game can go different ways, lategame is always the same
>The utter travesty of the early game
What the frick were they thinking?
Academy or Humanity First.
They weren't thinking.
They thought that two different games stapled together would appeal to everyone (most of whom were fans of a completely different game) rather than being very niche.
I like to play Servants. But of course, it's too easy.
damn, these factions are so boring and uninspired. SMAC did it so much better
Such potential. Such shit.
Humanity First and the Initiative.
Humanity "Capture and skin all xenos" First
Humanity First
Not only is it the only faction that is objectively correct it is also the most fun to play.
But they all play the same
Did they ever make so factions actually play differently from one another, aside from just having different quest chains?
Humanity First > Academy > power gap > everyone else
No.
The Initiative presenting as le ruthless capitalists but secretly actually being the old-world Illuminati was kino.
>secretly
Anon they have the eye in their logo.
>the British leader is an african mystery meat
I lel
Initiative.
Servants hands down
Academy
Is there a way to increase the chance of mission critical success?
didn't play TI
i have like 128 vram lol
too bad it won't have multiplayer, seems easier to implement than ai
initiative and servants seem most based.
i may sadly never play get to play it, but i could buy it and refund it if it doesn't work on my machine
just got myself spoiled for initiative ending it's the most badass thing ever taking over aliens and rest of humanity under illuminati. if i ever upgrade my rig i am buying TI
>discover the mechanism of alien mind control
>"this would make for a pretty good date rape drug"
I feel like the Initiative might be kind of evil.
HF for TOTAL XENOS DEATH
Academy > Resistance >>> Initiative >= Humanity First >> Protectorate >>> Servants = Exodus
>Protectorate above Servants
>Protectorate above anyone
I can understand people having widely different opinions about which faction is the best, but I thought everyone agreed that Protectorate was the absolute worst.
It's amazing how shitty Banerjee is as a person. I get that he's a former UN guy and he's seen some shit, but nothing really justifies the whole endless copium spiralling and purging the faction of all doubters of the "let's build an orbital laser panopticon because the ayys say so" plan
One interesting thing to note about Bannerjee is that the protectorate never discovers the pherocytes or develops countermeasures for them. Even Judith is somehow immune. When the aliens present her with the orbital laser panopticon plan, she defies them, because she sincerely believes that her way is better for the aliens.
Bannerjee, meanwhile, becomes increasingly radical in his total obedience. He's almost certainly under mind control.
Protectorate dehumanizes humanity less than the Servants, meanwhile Exodus might as well equal self-genocide, or at the very least a self-purge of all normal human ethics, as exemplified by Battle of Darkness in the Three Body series.
>leaving Earth is self-genocide
You're going to have to explain this one to me.
he believes in dork forest nonsense, don't bother.
Brainlet here.
Why is Dark Forest theory dumb?
I don't see much problem with it, although I think it's a bit grim.
The Americas were not in another star system.
I doubt it, it could be prevented with a few safe-guards.
>Why is Dark Forest theory dumb?
Because for nearly every possible interstellar distance method of interaction (including almost every form of FTL) maintaining a Dark Forest is a horrible survival strategy for every civilization involved in it. If you have the means, the energy and the resources to efficiently and reliably splat other intelligent civilizations wholesale before they splat you - then you can win over every other Dark Forest adherent civilization by using those means, energy and resources to spread your presence and influence (which might include some splatting) instead of indiscriminate splatting. You do that and you win, because very soon after you have more means, energy and resources than all of your potential threats which were too busy hiding to expand. Which means that Dark Forest is an inherently extremely unstable situation - it is maintained only until at least one civilization successfully spreads out, at which point it's no longer in effect.
This is why the life on Earth is the way it is - there are no successful organisms that succeed by eliminating all competition at the cost of their own growth, reproduction and expansion. If those don't come first then someone else out-grows you. There are no Dark Forests in actual real ecosystems since this strategy loses due to math on every scale possible.
>but killing potential threatening civilizations is simple just hurl relativistic rocks at them
If you can throw rocks then they can stop rocks, and if you can throw rocks you can also load those rocks up on stuff and people or robots and go make something useful with them instead. Even if the hypothetical FTL is assumed to be straight up free unlimited range teleportation - then using it to spread beats using it to glass everyone, and you actually can't reliably glass anyone since they can use the same FTL to escape wherever.
The Dark Forest works- provided the species in question uses it to home in on new colonial holdings. Just blowing up the planet is a tremendous waste, destroying the leadership with pinpoint strikes and then forcing the natives into your governing structure is much more productive. The Course of Empire by Eric Flint touches on that fact- aliens occupy earth in order to access our resources.
In the Forge of God- probably the best Dark Forest sci-fi book- the aliens destroy earth with von Neumann type probes. The probes use the resources from the destroyed earth to target more planets and whether the originating species even still exists is irrelevant. On the flip side, there are other aliens who use similar probes to protect, or at least save from extinction, species who have run afoul of them. It also has a really well written and thoughtful bit about how the galaxy is just another form of ecology and even entire planets can be seen as superorganisms.
Yes. Humanity leaving Earth permanently is like throwing a baby out to grow in the woods except 10 times worse. Whatever will become of the Exodus people will either be dead bones or inhuman creatures with a mentality so different that they might as well be Ayys to us.
Dark Forest theory is quite moronic and basically a product of Chinese prosecution complex paranoia from colonialism, but the part about Spaceship Earth genociding and eating itself was 100% on point
That baby cannot live in a cradle forever, anon.
Also the first contact and the widespread adoption of alien technology is necessarily going to change humanity, so the psychological damage is already done. The Resistance is the only faction who even expresses an interest in preserving humanity in the sense of preserving the spirit of pre-invasion humanity, and there's no reason to think they could succeed.
Also also, Project Exodus is the only faction that isn't trying to enforce its vision of the future on everyone else. It's just gonna be a small group of colonists. It's a bit odd to rank that outcome worse than an Initiative victory, which means not just shifting mankind's focus away from Earth to the control of an interstellar empire, but also enslaving every living thing both on Earth and outside it to serve this goal.
>Whatever will become of the Mayflower people will either be dead bones or inhuman creatures with a mentality so different that they might as well be demons to us.
>Dark Forest theory is quite moronic and basically a product of Chinese prosecution complex paranoia from colonialism
bro there's no way you think liu cixin was the one to come up with this theory. right?
>dehumanises humanity less
What the frick is this meant to mean? LARPing as Breen while your species gets blown up for building a rocket is less dehumanising than Judith's plan?
Idgaf about lore or story, but from a gameplay pov protectorate is shit. You don't get to enjoy the ayys not slapping your shit like the servants do, yet you're not supposed to oppose them either. I had one game with them and it basically ended up as total war against ayys so I could build the fricking stations they ordered in peace.
Protectorate is also kinda bloat.
Removing Protectorate would be better because then
>less bloat
>give some protectorate shit to servants
>servants would be 1v5 instead of 2v5 making them less trivial
Thinking, but do you think servants should get extra objectives of having to turn earth into a paradise by removing all pollution to win so they aren't so easy to play.
Are there any strategies other than turtle and Jupiter rush?
Is the game fun yet?
its not going to turn into XCOM stop asking
how did you get "is it XCOM yet" from "is it fun yet"
What's your favorite engine?
1.6 TDI
Factions in order of usefulness.
Exodus is worthless.
Servants are worthless.
Protectorate can argue that they have a point: kneel now so humanity can stand later.
Resistance wants to prevent alien domination, but without a means to kill aliens preventing their domination would require us to be able to invade their homeworlds.
Initiative wants to make money. At least they're honest.
Academy may be naive to think that the aliens can be trusted to respect allies, but at least they want to approach alien negotiation from a point of power.
Humanity First is the best faction.
Except the protectorate are absolute fricking cucks. It's not "kneel now so humanity can stand later" it's "kneel for as long as the protectorate maintains their orbital death stations"
In terms of endings.
Exodus just leaves, definitely weaker than what the whole earth can do, a gamble but can happen in addition to the other endings.
Resistance cuts off the wormhole, leaving the aliens intact garneting future conflict.
Humanity First kills off most of the top aliens, leaving their empire in shambles.
Academy works with the intact alien empire, prosperity as much as bilateral trade allows.
Protectorate becomes another vassal with all the benefits that brings.
Servants are annexed directly into the empire, in a way they have joint ownership of the full empire.
Initiative uses mind control to directly take over the whole alien empire.
>Initiative uses mind control to directly take over the whole alien empire.
Eh?
Hydra are not immune to pherocytes.
Half of them are so incredibly cucked, it baffles me why anyone would play as them.
You have to consider, there are people who think national pride is a bad thing in this world.
So take that to a global scale.
There are legit people, in your very country, who would shit talk humanity and try to surrender to the aliens in real life, too.
Depends on the aliens. The Hydra made the mistake of being ugly, causing Humanity First to be the only real option.
>he wouldn't get a tentaclejob from his hydra gf
>There are legit people, in your very country, who would shit talk humanity and try to surrender to the aliens in real life, too.
that would completely depend on the aliens wouldnt it?
like if the aliens were obviously more advanced in every aspect
yeah exactly bro the main line of defense against aliens are us epic nationalist obese Gankerners lol
>I'm from Tres Arroyos and I say KILL EM ALL
So are there any mods that fix the game's many, many problems?
no
No but the just released update is a promising start in the right direction. You get a range of difficulty slider options rather than an autistic vision of 'le darksouls of xcom strategy'. You can basically outright disable the ayys and have a virtual sandbox style campaign.
The devs should have probably made a modding tool during the initial burst of interest so that more dedicated, and talented, autists could do it for free on their behalf and make a better game but hopefully it's on their agenda at some point.
That's a great start, but they also need to fix:
Nation management being a pain in the ass.
Defend interests being simultaneously absolutely necessary and completely invincible, unless the computer RNGs a 1% to frick it.
Factions not being permanently killable.
And more.
These factions are all terrible. Only the resistance and maybe humanity first even begin to make sense, the rest are brainwash cattle
>resistance making sense
>We don't want to kill the aliens but we do want to oppose them and just kind of hope they won't send a nuke first
Academy at least wants to bring a definitive end to the alien conflict by being stronger than them.
Exodus is the only faction that doesn' make sense. Because even if they succeed and flee to a habitable other planet, settle it and restart humanity then what? The hydra already got to our solar system. Exodus won't be able to stop them from setting up shop where ever they went. They're basically doing all the hard work for them in colonizing another system.
The protectorate make more sense if you interpret them as always being compromised from the start by the alien brainwashing. The servants are the result of drugs and a naive belief that the aliens are somehow better. However the servants secure a pretty decent deal for humanity as long as you don't mind us not exactly at the top of their hierarchy. Though one could argue that since the aliens seem to have pretty low populations, humanity will dominate simply because there are billions of us and we can spread everywhere like rabbits.
Resistance is not unrealistic to imagine a faction of people too squeamish to go as hard-core as humanity first. They just want the problem to go away without worrying as much about long term implications.
I love how the servants legitimately have bigger balls than the protectorate when it comes to even defending humanity at least. If Bannerjeet isn't compromised it's hilarious to think of gruff no-nonsense types accepting the type of shit Austria gave to Serbia expecting them to reject it, just because they're convinced they've lost already, meanwhile the actual alien dicksuckers outright say
>Nope, we want better terms
and they fricking get them
Initiative is kino, they're look like morons because a faction outright presenting as "WE'RE THE ILLUMINATI AND WE WANT TO RULE EVERYTHING" would be an in-universe mistake.
That is why I always rename them "World Economic Forum" and LARP as the RL-Chinese government.
Yet another low quality post that straddles the line between Facebook boomer and low IQ ESLoid
The WEF is in fact real, and if you follow their documents and presentations (literally available on their own website lmao), they're very big into the idea that they're going to use "emerging technologies" to basically become immortal, extending their lives through gene therapy and bionic implants and such, and so they believe they need to drastically cull the human population (note: this includes you, sorry, being a good boy doesn't mean you'll be spared) in order to conserve resources so they can build an empire in outer space. They literally believe that and you can read up on it on their website. It’s not le facebook boomer boogyman stuff.
I don’t give a shit about simplistic narratives written by stupid and poor people to convince themselves they’re important, well done wasting your time writing all that
What?
You can just admit you're barely literate and can only read at maximum a singular small sentence because your mind's been fried by social media, y'know. Nothing I'm talking about is hard to grasp or even look. Like, homie. Everything I mentioned is on the World Economic Forum's own website. I understand it's tedious to read, but it’s all there if you want to go read it. It’s not like I just make this stuff up.
>Pay attention to me and my corny sci-fi story I wrote to distract myself from the fact I’m a low education and low IQ peon at McDonalds
No thanks
If I'm a low IQ peon, then what are you exactly?
That aside, it isn't a sci-fi story. Literally just look on the WEF website, you waste of Ganker(nel)'s bandwidth.
>your mind's been fried by social media
ironic
I don't even use Facebook.
Considering the fact you're here on this site, that isn't the own you think it is.
mad?
That's cool and all, but I don't see what it has to do with video games.
I don't see what rambling about ESLs has to do with vidya, but a certain someone on this board sure loves to do it.
Not really, just bored of your shit. Freshen up your schtick already.
>say some stupid ESL shit about WEF and Soros or whatever
>get called an ESL
>b***h about being called an ESL
no wonder you never finished school
At this point you're just either lying on purpose or you're a very stupid person who is incapable of entertaining a thought you disagree with.
Again, reminder: all on their website. No conspiracy theory here, just people like you who are too lazy to read.
epic conspiracy theories like your gay WEF thing are for morons who need the world explained to them in the guise of a movie like the matrix usually revolving around tropes like secretive elites, mass surveillance, population control etc. these appeal to low grade people in society who arrogantly think they’re important enough to be subject to a conspiracy such as min wage workers, ranting homeless guys at bus stops, and as mentioned, boomers on facebook.
>WEF
>conspiracy theory
did you not read the parts where he was talking about the WEFs population control and space empire? dumb ESL
Wow, a random contextless screenshot. I’m really getting the talking to a dumb boomer on Facebook experience rn lol
Nobody is doing anything with your data specifically lol. I swear this website is full of narcissistic low IQoids who need to invent persecution stories to make up for the fact they’re unimportant and inconsequential
Call me some facebook boomer as much as you want, doesn't change that the WEF has a ton of types like this
Nobody is targeting you and you’re unimportant. Sorry
yeah they're just targeting humanity as a whole moron-kun
Ask yourself why people with jobs don't obsess over these kinds of things and instead it's always underachieving useless people who spend all day online
Do you have a job?
If so, why aren't you spending time on your job instead of bothering to try and DEBOOOOOOOOONK people you see as loser kooks online?
/misc/ and /gsg/ alike and their consequences have been a disaster for the /vst/ race.
I didn't mean to attach that pic. Suffering.
i do have a job though
I have a job, been to Davos and everything you said is stupidly moronic bull. It is the kind of moronic nonsense people say when they have no issue with their government and economy being subverted by hostile foreign influences. You are the fifth column, morono, and idiots like you do much more damage than the WEF ever could by simply not caring.
>I have a job, been to Davos
stopped reading there. nice fantasy you strange little facebook creature
Are you just trying to get a rise out of people or are you genuinely deluding yourself? Serious question.
Hahaha you're so mad
Reading this post gave me a headache, not in the "wtf am I reading" way, but more in the "is this homie serious" way. Then again, you are the dense motherfricker who thought the US government would shoot climate refugees, so then again trying to initiate dialogue with you in the first place was a losing battle.
Holy shit I didn't even notice you calling mass surveillance a "trope" in the post-Wikileaks world. This is a joke, right? Jeez, your whole post reads like some copium that wouldn't look out of place in Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago.
>oh no they'd never do anything to me, I'm not important!
t. low quality poster
Yeah. They should've merged Protectorate and Servants into one pro-alien faction and maybe split Resistance partly into Academy and partly into Humanity First. In addition to giving each faction more unique gameplay, giving them branching paths that they can go down would also go a long way towards making them more interesting. For the pro-alien faction they'd be able to choose between willfully or begrudgingly serving the aliens. Also change them to be more a coalition of people who would rather risk alien rule because they're so fed up with Earth elites. Humanity first could have to choose whether they're hostile to all aliens or just the Hydras. Giving Exodus the ability to steal the wormhole tech would've been great too.
I like Exodus despite how weak and bland they are compared to the others. It's the only faction without ideological opposition and being chill with everyone else, while proposing an out of the box solution.
Migrating away is not a bad plan either, though it matters how FAR. I don't remember their questline, but another galaxy with a one-of-a-kind MacGuffin would seem good enough.
Shame about Khalid looking like a frog, the game is clearly made by israelites.
The only problem is, do they consider how the Hydra are bound to follow them? Even if they don't follow them immediately, there's absolutely no reason they can't park at the edge of whatever system they set up in and open a new wormhole. Are they going to run once more?
That's what I meant by the galaxy-hopping MacGuffin. They need a unique tech utilizing the wormhole.
Hopping over just to Proxima is dumb as frick. Spending tens of thousands of years on a shitty generation ship is equally dumb.
Quick jump to another galaxy to a life-supporting star? Perfect solution. The ayys can't follow because they lack the MacGuffin tech.and even if they could, they don't know the coordinates in the vastness of space - nor would they care at that point.
If they had that, it would be a game changing weapon that they could then use to immediately frick the ayys up on their territory. I'm charitably assuming that Exodus think fighting is pointless. They would have a point in a 'knife in a gun fight' mindset.
Even if you can get the upper hand on the ayys, technically speaking there's no reason that they couldn't just launch a giant space rock at Earth and call it a day. Nothing we could do about it, and we have no realistic method of attacking the wormhole without the hindsight of the different ways other factions figure it out.
>If they had that, it would be a game changing weapon that they could then use to immediately frick the ayys up on their territory
No, it wouldn't be.
Like you didn't even read my post. It would be a one-of-a-kind one-time-use item that dumps you unimaginably far.
>Even if you can get the upper hand on the ayys, technically speaking there's no reason that they couldn't just launch a giant space rock at Earth and call it a day. Nothing we could do about it, and we have no realistic method of attacking the wormhole without the hindsight of the different ways other factions figure it out.
I'm not sure I'm following you, but Exodus doesn't give a shit about Earth. They could get an experimental, non-viable and dangerous skip drive to sneak upon or suicide into the ayys to get the wormhole.
I only played the leaked beta for a short time and I'm not up on the lore, but there ARE ways to write around it, so stop being such a naysayer.
They interrogate a hydra specifically to learn where they live so they can go the opposite way. The hydra aren't very widespread, and interstellar travel is still difficult and expensive for them. I think it's reasonable to expect that they wouldn't give chase.
Humanity only got fricked by the hydra due to the tech discrepancy. The nature of the wormholes means that the amount you can send is pathetically small. Earth 2.0 with end game technology and fleets would walk all over any attempted hydra invasion.
Is the game still complete shitshow?
Yes. Nothing's changed, nothing will change.
Is everything a sitting duck always against Advanced Alien Spinal Mag Cannons or is there some tech I don't know about to counter them? Seems like they can pick off anything easily, including armed to the teeth battlestations, and their ammo is 450
these are literally the factions from SMAC. Barely even bothered to change their nationalities lmao.
The frick when I made this same comment in a smac thread I was called underage
Does having high faction approval in a country actually help?
Yes, it makes crackdowns and purges harder. Also, it gives a bonus to 'take control point' missions in neighbouring countries.
I thought you only got a bonus for controlling control points in neighboring countries.
You do get a public opinion bonus, but that is much lower than the CP-bonus from neighbours. I maintain high approval ratings mostly for the crackdown/purge defense stuff, because it stacks with the economic bonus and 'defend CP'-thing.
Also contributes to cohesion if you control the control points as well I think. Not totally sure what the game means by 'elite', but I'm pretty sure its talking about the control points
Don't you also get more influence from it?
I hadn't played this since November, just dove in again. Lots of good quality of life changes that addressed the pain points I had with org and councillor management. How is the space combat phase? I always got put off once I got into space as I'm too brainlet to understand all the delta v and kps and mgs stuff.
The space combat was the most polished on launch from what I can tell and hasn't changed a ton. QOL stuff like missile volleys were added, but I haven't used them myself yet.
Wiki whatever you don't understand. dV is acceleration
>dV is acceleration
really simplified
Play Kerbal Space Program first and after that it'll all be pretty simple.
how the frick do I design good ships
test and tweak ships in skirmish mode
Easy, you just wait until you've researched everything and then build the perfect supership.
🙂
Play a better game instead.
Highfleet has functional ship customization, for example.
XCom has functional alien fighting.
Any map painter is better than this one (you can't arbitrarily lose countries for no reason).
Is it not possible to peacefully unify most Eurasian Union nations? Majority of Eurasian Union member countries have this stupid Moscow claim tag.
you have to unify from the "main" country of the federation i.e. russia for eurasia, france for europe and so on
Thanks Anon, that did the trick.
>Luka taking over Russia
would be pretty KINO
im with the frick alien pussy faction
their consent is irrelevant
That's Initiative.
Servants also frick alien pussy, but for them it's more like the aliens are just being tsundere, and Howell wants to fix them with the power of true love and get married.
humanity first, suffer not the xeno to live
Americans are unironically so poisoned by individualistic bullshit that they can't grasp that something doesn't have to be specifically targeting them in order to effect them
Anyways, saying they have a plan to invade space or whatever gives the WEF way too much credit
I'd like to sit down with Klaus Schwab and his israeli handler Noah Harari and ask them to explain why, if they are bringing forth a post-human world, it is important that we have mass immigration, wars with Russia and China, and promote transgenderism
Wouldn't transhumanism render all these petty social issues moot in the first place? I don't get it
they need to destroy old regime to install new, they need push people into deep shit so it can fix it(or not)
>ctrl + f "american"
>first result is some moron sperging about da jooz and mutts and illuminati and individualism le bad
take your ass back to
moron
Mad?
You can't go anywhere without /misc/turds derailing threads.
he is right tho
https://www.weforum.org/people/yuval-noah-harari
>ultraleftist commie decries wef commie for exterminating the amerikaner in a different manner than the one he prefers
Sounds like business as usual.
I'd rather we just exterminated the American government tbh.
is it a bad idea to focus only on a single big nation and not take anything else for the rest of the game? i'm having fun with turning europe into a world power but it's always nerve wracking when public supports starts going down because some Black folk decided to pay me a visit
If you're going to do that, may I introduce you to the 'French Colonial Strategy' play.
Where you focus on your core nation (or nations), and plunder nations that are easy to take (African, South American, some Middle Eastern) with 100% spoils.
i don't like doing that because i larp as being the good guys (turning nations into developed, peaceful and functioning states). it's especially entertaining when america turns into a totalitarian terror state (happens every game for some reason) and the only democracies left in the world are the EU and Australia
Its the cohesion mechanic. America has one of the worst I've looked at, it constantly goes to 0 unless you're pumping cohesion big time. Add on the events where global cohesion score goes down by 1 and its lights out for democracy
Just like in real life? Democracy requires participation to work. If nobody feels like they're part of the same system it isn't going to work. Though I think the devs exaggerate america's social cohesion issues. Twitter noise makes it seem worse than it really is. Most regular people don't really give a shit too much.
This is the game where current levels of global warming decrease GDP by 2% per year, after all.
why not decrease for some but increase for other?
russia getting warmer would help them a lot for example(same for canada)
Ecologically protected areas don't suffer any impacts from climate change while ecologically vulnerable regions suffer twice as much. So at game start a bunch of places have as much as -4% annual GDP, and thus have to reach above 4% annual GDP growth to actually experience any growth whatsoever.
I wish there was just a better handwave to explain this, like that the aliens have started to hard teraform earth more than they're indicated to do solely with their purple plants. I understand it as a mechanic so you can't just snowball a ultra nation with 20 billion per capita gdp but it just smacks of shitty muh climate change.
I can understand exacerbating it so that it actually has tangible gameplay impacts. The real problem is that they've explicitly said that they don't want climate change to be something you can fix (even though the game has humans unlocking super massive fusion reactors, harnessing antimatter, and plenty of technologies explicitly aimed at allowing us to control climate change). That and just how worthless welfare spending is for actually mitigating climate change.
It definitely feels lame that you can't be rewarded for investing a massive amount of energy into 'cleaning up' the earth. Even when you've turned the sun into a small dyson cloud of nano factories churning out infinite cash. That sort of energy should make it trivial to do the sort of things that would make Al Gore jizz his pants without breaking a sweat. The reward is you get a super wealthy mega nation. The benefits are trivial anyway at that point, as all your other off-earth stations are going to absolutely outpace anything you can do on the planet (which is, by itself, sort of ridiculous. An entire nation of scientists can't beat 5,000 researchers around mercury?
Just seems like a tremendous missed opportunity to really lean into Alpha Centauri style "here's where humanity has gone in such a short period of time" changes.
>global warming reducing GDP
The factory has air conditioning, get back to work.
Ironic since the EU isn't a democracy due to unelected people in Brussels having control of member nations.
Well, the US is so powerful and in a game where there are limited seats for the factions the devs were probably trying to make some things more interesting than they would be in real life. Like maybe they want to hold the door open for the US splitting in the 2020s and 2030s instead of all of the US only to one faction always
No, this game is nothing but moronic political ideology over a thin disguise of very simple mechanics. Pollution mechanics (which global warming falls under) could have done all sorts of things, but instead just just causes a flat GDP decrease across the board regardless of location and has nothing to do with the alien invasion nor are there any technologies or mechanics to reverse it. Fly around in fricking space ships, but you can't put up a simple solar shield or do carbon recapture. As for the US, it is given low cohesion because "lol Trump".
The alien fauna affects the gases in the atmosphere I'm pretty sure. And the alien AI prioritization is pretty negligent of the atmosphere
Actually, no. Gases in the atmosphere effect xenoforming and not the other way around.
It grows faster with more CO2.
Source: ran an all-spoils game for shits and giggles and Africa turned into a purple jungle
its an improvement
But you've seen the numbers and know the fauna doesn't affect the atmosphere gases? You're sure CO2 and fauna aren't feeding off each other?
BUT HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOU PERSONALLY
This game takes too long, I spend 16 hours just to get kicked about by the aliens and have to restart.
git gud
I do keep playing it, trying new strategies, but it feels terrible to waste two days each attempt.
try manual saving where you think things are ok to start again from
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
It pisses me off you can't make the Rockies region its own country.
Are there any orgs which give the persuade space asset mission?
It's not persuade, but assault.
And no, I can't say I've seen one but I'm sure some ultra-rare unique org has it.
Just build a ship with marines on it and use that for assaults. Any shitty ship will enable you to assault multiple targets during a turn.
IIRC I used basic plasma drives with 3 marines on a destroyer hull. Took 200 days, but I can take over anything around Earth.
No there is a persuade mission that astronauts have, and maybe other councilors IDK. But its called control not persuade. I looked for an org list with missions for this but couldn't find a list.