>tf2 community fed up with bot problems
>no communication from Valve for 2 years
>no major updates since 2017
>tf2 community finally takes a stand
>starts #savetf2 on twitter
>starts talking about #savetf2 on other social media
>one guy even shows up to Valve HQ in Spy cosplay and talks to a Valve employee
>TF2 twitter finally used in 1 and a half years
>generic "were workin on it don't worry!" response
>community goes apeshit
its nice they even acknowledged us but honestly this reminds me of that one interview that was had with Gabe where he just said "we know its a thing and we're working on it" and then nothing. You think this will be the same?
>>tf2 community fed up with bot problems
Issue fixed by playing the game the intended way ie in a dedicated, community hosted server.
>>no communication from Valve for 2 years
Game is older than you are, why do you feel valve is responsible for post-launch support indefinitely?
>>no major updates since 2017
see above
how is playing community "the way the things were intended?" Any triple A multiplayer game should have at least a functioning multiplayer. I'm not asking for a new content update anymore on par with Jungle Inferno. Just anything to stop the damn bots
Because the game launched with a server browser, the standard for PC FPS games at the time, and only ever added matchmaking because of e-celeb obsessed children who couldn't figure out how to play a game without matchmaking. How old are you?
Tell the top community servers to stop auto-kicking me for disabling the HTML motd, and then you may have a point.
I'm not going to enable it just so some 12yr old can run bitcoin miners on my game in the background.
Try not joining servers hosted and moderated by 12 year olds? This is what I mean, people like you are too stupid to use a server browser. Why would Valve want to cater to the current playerbase, you're all idiots!
well thing is it should be expected that at least official servers should be working. CSGO is 10 years old and has fine servers mostly. DOTA 2 is old L4D2 is similar age to TF2.
It would be nice if the official servers worked. Its nowhere near "expected." It's been 15 years. 5 years from now will you be mad if the official servers were to go down? 5 years from then? You need to get real. You made a comparison to triple A games, the only reason those have matchmaking for so long is because the israelite devs refuse to give anyone the server binaries and host servers for themselves. How many AAA games you know that simply don't have a way to play them at all anymore? Spoiler alert, its a fricking lot. Be grateful that TF2 can literally never die, and quit acting like the game needs saving. The community can even do content updates now with leaked source code, there are no excuses.
> The community can even do content updates now with leaked source code, there are no excuses.
Both TF2 Classic and Open Fortress were killed by valve, so i dont know about that
Despite what fanboys like to think, valve is not omniscient nor omnipresent. They can't stop the flow of software over the internet. Also, give it a few years and they'll care less and less that the community fixes the game for them. This is the end GOAL of any good FPS game, to have it firmly in the hands of the community to ensure an endless lifespan. It wasn't that long ago when TF2 was getting constant updates and people just b***hed and moaned about how "out of touch" valve was with the community. Now that same community wants those updates again.
Its objective fact.
go back
yeah but now valve even seems to not care about community updates anymore. TF2 Classic and Open Fortress literally killed by valve. Tons of fanmade weapon concepts and other shit no interest either. If Valve really does not care then just give the reins over to the community. Wasn't there that "team comtress" shit where they fixed all the bugs and even had some anti-bot solutions?
>I imply everyone who disagrees with my opinions is stupid so people will take me seriously
>I imply everyone who disagrees with my opinions is stupid so people will take me seriously
lmao you perfectly described his seething
at launch valve had its own company community servers for noobs, it wasnt solely community servers from day 1 like you say it was
valve servers weren't abundant until like f2p or some shit
Community servers wereshit and the game was massively improved with quick play which is essentially the same thing we have now moron.
The only really bad things added is transitions between games.
Before a game would end and derver changed map and you just kept playing but now you have to stare at a map vote,, score list then wait the 120 seconds countdown when the next map loads and stricter score limits so games end way too soon
>the game was massively improved with quick play
Underage go home
Your the fricking underage lol. Ive been playing since war update and the second quick play existed your precious community servers died over night
I get you homosexuals larp way too much but it was literally and i do mean this LITERALLY community servers died the second we could just play on valve servers as fast as possible.
underage post
underage post
>your precious community servers died over night
>Ive been playing since war update
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Imagine getting filtered by the server browser to the extent that you never found the servers where you developed connections with all the regulars as you played experimental custom gamemodes and everybody enjoyed themselves just fricking around.
Imagine needing a corporation to curate which maps you're allowed to play on.
>quick play which is essentially the same thing we have now
No adhoc connections automatically makes it shit and inferior to quickplay. And the 3 round system is completely redundant when mapvote exists.
This. Thanks to custom tf2 i made some lasting friendships. Tf2 basically died, but we still chat and play and even visit eachother at times. And it took days and weeks of playing together at the same server at first.
I pity the players whose games are stuck with matchmaking system.
Objectively wrong.
Matchmaking is the one thing responsible for killing the joy of multiplayer. But zoomers can't understand the value of making a choice.
Matchmaking is a plague when it comes to "small" multiplayer games
Server browsers are objectively superior
CS was better when the main way to play was playing on Community Server. It led to the creation of inhouse leagues, clans, etc.
Dota was objectively better when it was lobby based. Same thing, communities (PDIH, Dotalicious, frick even /vg/ inhouses
Same for Battlefield, CoD, you name it. Even WoW. Matchmaking only works for 1v1 games like Starcraft.
Server/Lobby based games allowed you to actually get better at the game, because occasionally youd play against better players. They'd also be less annoying, since you mostly played with people that after a while you'd recognise.
With matchmaking, not only is it more annoying because you get random morons every game, you cant even improve in a meaningful way, because you always play against people that are +/- 5% the same skill as you are
I can't help but laugh at this, first time playing a PC game kid?
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>Any triple A multiplayer game
Its a F2P game that was $20 at launch.
>Game is older than you are, why do you feel valve is responsible for post-launch support indefinitely?
Because despite it's age/lack of updates it still has one of the largest multiplayer communities on PC
you have server binaries and vulns get patched after getting reported. Do yourselves a favor and band together under a single open source client instead of the 30 flavors you have right now. Do your own security + content. You can't expect valve to update the game forever and the sooner you go independent the better.
yeah I agree that if Valve really does not give a shit allow the community to take the reins with Valve just giving minor oversight
>Issue fixed by playing the game the intended way ie in a dedicated, community hosted server.
call me crazy but i dont like servers with Ads, !RTD, plugins and bad optimization/conection
Your post does nothing but prove the state of the game is mostly a result of the community, not Valve.
yeah my sentiments the same. Community servers have their place but a big triple a game with a player count this high should have functioning servers
Then you use the filters the browser provides you?
yeah i don't know why people thought this would be any different.
i remember playing the game back in 2013 and that being the default way in alot of games and it was strange to be back into it and returning to that. a good change though i think i kind of forgot the joy of finding a handful of good well attended servers and then making a list of favourites. you gotta wait sometimes to get in but you know the match will be good.
Last time i played tf2 on a community sever it was going fine then suddenly 15 bots joined so im sure one of the new people who joined was with the bot guys and did something to send them their
>why do you feel valve is responsible for post-launch support indefinitely?
Valve continues to monetize the game indefinitely. If they sell $XX.XX worth of keys, hats, MvM/Contract passes, etc. etc., then I wanna see $XX.XX level of support. Either that, or sign off on community updates. They did it with Left 4 Dead 2. They did it with Alien Swarm. Other companies do it with games much older than TF2. It's quite silly not to do it for the one game everyone points at as being broken and can't be approved for Steam Deck as a result.
I remember something about the invasion update having payout distribution drama because one of the leads was a homosexual, which soured valve on community updates in general, especially for tf2
pretty much everyone has forgotten that clusterfrick now so I imagine a community update would be amazing. Like look at L4D2's community update
They weren't wrong. Every single community project after that has imploded in an identical fashion. The "community" couldn't even run a Heavy Boxing event without the one in charge stealing the money for himself
I'm not going to play your shittopia Dane.
can you please just have one thread for your gayass little internet crusade instead of 6 of them?
don't blame me blame the other anons that posted the exact same thread on the exact same topic
I think best case scenario. Is that valve directs a couple more worker bees to create the next band aid fix which the bot makers will probably get around in 5 days.
yeah, cautiously optimistic. i have a feeling that they just got an intern to say some bullshit and call it a day. cant wait for another "the state of" post relating to valve or tf2
also may i remind you of the spaghetti monster that tf2's codebase is? i cant imagine theyd want to work on it anyway, from a backend stance
well the source spaghetti didn't seem to stop their goofy asses for 10 years up until Jungle Inferno
yeah that is probably the rational reaction unlike the morons that think their prayers are answered and the bots will be gone and the heavy update will come! I bet that the twitter is gonna go dead for another year and a half and nothing will change but i hope so bad that I'm proven wrong here
me too anon, me too
You homosexuals asked for this with MYM
You could have just run your own damn servers to deal with bots
You continued to play this dogshit after Mannconomy and the following F2P that lead to the mass creation of bot accounts.
Do the smart thing, make your own servers, password lock it, and advertise it to your communities.
If not, you dug your grave, go lie in it.
Implying TF2 gays want to police themselves when they can't even go 20 minutes without screeching about non-stop weapons being viable when they already run their own banlists.
>send out boilerplate 'we hear you and we are working on it' tweet
>next time they release hats just toss a 'added new security measures' line in patch notes
>dont actually do anything
or if they do it stops the bots for maybe a week and then they go back to it again
I don't even want the game to change. I don't want to learn about whatever percentage changes to whatever. I don't want to see new weapons that might break shit where we have to play the waiting game for another patch. I don't want sweeping changes to a character just because they drew the short end of the stick. I genuinely have enjoyed the game knowing that some shit isn't going to completely throw a wrench into it because the last time was that stupid as frick Meet Your Match garbage. I don't even want to imagine what happens if they actually do start updating it because the people in their ear are going to be desperate compgays or big-headed content creators on an ego trip. I don't even care about the bots, I just have no interest in watching a very obvious team stacks roll onto Valve servers with no scramble as it becomes a never ending run of stomps and loading screen/queue shit and I have no interest in giant janky community servers like Skial or the ones tied to some specific concept like furrypound or Uncletopia.
yeah uncletopia is just to sweaty for me. Way more serious maps or serious playstyles. I wanna just turn off my brain and either trimp around as demoknight or do friendly shit on 2fort
homosexual casual, uninstall tf2 and sell your pc
NGL I like the sweat of uncletopia. They are also homosexuals for running bots
>never donating
>frick you ut
Also that furry server seems alright based on the fact that all the homosexual trannies in it are trying to flex their troony voice and therefore give callouts often. I found that to be amusing.
Abuse the HUD exploit.
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https://pomf2.lain.la/f/fb8rr4z4.m4v
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/257imyak.m4v
I made a server to at least try and help give people an alternative. It's brand new so nobody is there yet.
>32 player
>50% stock, 50% workshop maps
>crits, spread, etc. on
>you can spray and micspam
>nobody is interested in policing speech
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/NavarroTF
Nobody fricking cares about your moronic shit and frick random crits. This is tryinng way to hard to appeal to le 4cuck homosexual
rude
average Ganker gay when someone tries to help them (they have not gotten any positive reinforcement in years)
I cannot wait for summer to be over.
summer's been going for over 10 years at this point, you'll be waiting plenty more
I heard there's racist micspam but I've never seen it. Can someone link a video of that happening?
I expect it to be so, yes.
I think they will put out one or two fixes that don't take a lot of effort to implement but do little to address the problem. Something real dumb like not letting you pick Sniper for the first two minutes
>TitanFall players laughing in the corner
You homosexuals weren't even around when the orange box released. Just let the game die and stop disgracing yourselves.
How do I get into exploits such as speedhacks
have a nice day
the internet dumbass
just play open fortress
thank frick its back that shit certified slaps same with TF2C but neither is a true replacement
>Get sick of bots on official servers
>DL TF2 Classic
>phun c:
test
did it work?
it's been 3 weeks, has Valve actually done anything?
Nope, all they did was update they agreement to distributing SDKs following the rerelease of OF and TF2C.
We'll have to see if they do something in the upcoming Summer Case
I can't wait for more whacky, ugly, art-style-breaking items to be released, such as "Towering Pillar of Bullshit" and "Silly headband".
did they do this just now out of asshurt after OF and TF2C started up distribution following getting ghosted?
Yup, so far nothing has happened thankfully other than that
still, what gays
maybe they should've checked their email more than once a year instead of being passive aggressive that some modders are saving their game for them
nope they've done jackshit
Jus started playing TF2. (Had 200h when I bought it in 2010 total). I sold all my items telling myself I would never play it again so now I'm a F2P with an all classes WW1 Brodie hat. It's honestly depressing.
What are some servers that run casual payload and cp like uncletopia but with random crits enabled? I like random crits 🙂
74.91.116.171:27015 go here its uncletopia #9... secret Ganker ran uncletopia server with 32 players and random crits
Waoe r3all.... ok 🙂 omggg my computer epxloded 🙁
Also I didn't say I liked uncletopia and I don't know what troony homosexual drama it has I literally just picked tf2 back up today and it seemed like Skial and Uncletopia are the closest to vanilla but both have random crits disabled.
I just want to play a community server with maybe custom maps at most and everything else vanilla, is that too much to ask for?
74.91.116.171:27015
come to uncletopia #9 its different its anti trans
>playin some OF
>chat devolves into pedo discord drama with the mentally ill trans top fragger, by their own admission
it's all so tiresome, I just want to bhop
Yes anon, savetf2 is a waste when community servers exist