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do not redeem the ai sir
Good.
AI is plagiarism.
how is it at all different from how real artists draw?
you know they all use reference too
>you know they all use reference too
They still have to draw it.
And using a reference and swiping aren't the same thing.
>t. believes that the AI models retain the training images in their dataset and just pull bits and pieces from samples
You know you can make art and put it through AI as well?
Sauce please
Maybe we can make animu waifu games with this
Does it draw breasts? ill make a game right fricking now.
That's awesome. I want it.
fricking how
Wow. Instead of developing skills, you can convert any scribble to the most generic anime girl imaginable.
Incredible work, anon.
It's pretty clear the use of tools like this are for developers who aren't artists, nor have any desire to be an artist.
and they still have to prompt it
>And using a reference and swiping aren't the same thing.
they are the same thing. you learn, machine learns. you can learn better than it so what is the problem?
Just like how "artist" sample little bits of music, AI does even less, just on a grander scale. I can't wait till this shit goes to court once and for all and shuts all these chuds up.
Real artists have actual thought and logic behind their drawings. AI just does meaningless scribbles.
>AI just does meaningless scribbles.
How is this a meaningless scribble?
It is only meaningful insofar as it is intended as such, and the AI can't intend shit
meaning is in the eye of the beholder
In that case I decide that those words mean you agree with me
>meaningless scribbles.
you do not know the definiton of that word ESL. meaningless scribble is your diploma lmao
Humans that trace or just photoshop other images get shat on endlessly all the time, same with AI photoshoping shit from boorus
That isn't how AI works, for one. Secondly, the vast majority of concept artists in the western games industry make heavy use of photo bashing, as professionals who earn very respectable paychecks.(*as professional artists) Photo bashing being where you paint over top of reference photos and photoshopped irl images.
Yea AI doesn't copy anything, they just happen to perfectly replicate watermarks by magic
I have never seen someone else's actual watermark in an AI generated image, just jibberish squiggles. What's happened is the AI's been trained on a large number of images featuring a watermark, and associates the concept of a identifying symbol of some sort being placed on a painting. All it is, is a large number of logic gates, that operate similarly to neurons in a human brain, taking in input data (keywords, etc) and responding with data it know to have a positive correlation to said input.
Keep in mind it's usually intentional when you get it too. Prompt "text, signature, watermark" etc and viola. Or put them in the negatives if you don't want them.
I hate Elves
n'wah
looks like generic shit
I just chose the first thing I saw text in, how's this masterwork??
I wish my bro would help me play the guitar.
This is a perfect example
This never happens.
>because some pajeet scammer on fiver stole some images, that means AI images are good
Nobody argues that AI images aren't art, but with greedy companies trying to save every single penny they can will use AI as a shortcut and they will make all their shit look even worse than it does now.
>make all their shit look even worse than it does now.
That isn't an inherent quality of ai art so that thought process can be applied to every decision a company makes.
Those artists are miles better than you ever will be.
>but with greedy companies trying to save every single penny they can will use AI as a shortcut and they will make all their shit look even worse than it does now.
It will look better. AI is good.
>Nobody argues that AI images aren't art
Lmao post this on Ganker
Just did, in their drawgay thread.
I don't think they will bite.
In the long run, actual greedy companies will keep on using normal art because of this:
https://www.reuters.com/legal/ai-generated-art-cannot-receive-copyrights-us-court-says-2023-08-21/
Of course, this would be the CalArts camp in the next 24 hours if AI copyright was allowed overnight
Ok, crisis averted, everyone can go home now.
I do think it will be allowed at some point though.
>US court says
Nobody cares about americans
Except the entire civilized world. But good luck stealing in your brown shithole, not like you weren't doing it already.
>actual greedy companies will keep on using normal art because of this:
That law will only exist until (you) steal one of their AI generated gens then you will get anal raped. Pay attention to the news around that. Both Microsoft and Adobe say they'll help you in court and all those big companies are pushing their own "ethical" AI systems.
>"ethical" AI systems
Feels like those are being utilized for at least a decade.
Lmao this gay doesn't know about In paint lmao
>excuse me, did you just use a calculator for four function arithmetic?
>you motherfricker. I just spent years of my life in math school learning how to compute taylor series summations and the convergance points of their functions
>calculators put people like me OUT OF A JOB because its less work that you never had the money to hire someone professionally to do in the first place!
>I dont care whether you're computing to build a skyscraper or do your 3rd grade math homework, you're reaching conclusions based on someone else's work, not your own. You couldn't even show me the proof to those answers!
>>tfw you harass an AA Vidya developer because they used AI art to add extra atmosphere to a game.
Frick, am I save?
the fact that you cared enough to post this suggest yes
Frick it, I'll just cope by the fact that I hate Black folk and gays so I can never be a true Zoomer.
Only if you've actually read/watched sxf/bisque doll and played MGR, otherwise unfortunately you get the wall.
it needs a part about being upset about trannies
DESPITE MAKING UP ONLY 0.0001% OF THE POPULATION, I AM ANGRY ABOUT TRANNIES EVERY WAKING MOMENT OF MY LIFE
and another line of
Black Rock told me to be upset about it bro
>t.
Hey don't shit on all tomorrows
>marin
jej
this rotoscoping shit is so awkward looking, especially when you definitely know it's just some japanese dude trying to mimic girly motions to trace
legitimately curious what All Tomorrows has to do with any of this
seems like these are examples of things that are too smart, or on the flipside taken way too seriously, for the people who attach to [thing] as a fanbase.
weird. I don't remember ever seeing it get brought up in mainstream circles
Okay but why plastic love specifically?
Because it had a recent surge in popularity.
That said, these images mean literally nothing, you just throw in a bunch of popular shit and claim things.
youtubes algorithm pushed it really hard recently
kek it's true, any insta post about Marin is full of 'ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm you DO know she's 16 right??????', yet any other anime character that looks younger but the wikia says 18 is full of the same peope lusting over them
>16
16 is legal in my country
Am I supposed to recognize these characters?
Bro your can only express yourself through greentext and post-ironic unfunny infographs you call "memes".
Why does AI mindbreak people so much?
Ugly degenerate art naturally inspires revulsion
Yeah, your generic factory line psuedo anime overrendered patreon grift """art""" """"style"""" really does inspire revulsion
You will be replaced
You will lose your revenue stream
You will have to deal with it
They're afraid of being replaced.
Instead of, you know, improving or adapting.
Art has a massive potential to alter the public zeitgeist. This is why the israelites worked so hard to centralize their control over Hollywood. Having control over a nation's movies and TV shows essentially gives you direct control over their values, desires, and morals. Giving the average pleb the ability to generate custom-order art on a whim completely undermines this and creates a huge potential for breakaway grassroots pieces that don't comply with the narrative that the elite wants to push.
148IQ take m8
Excuse me AI
>Yes master
I feel like watching a semi accurate historical film on how Genghis Khan would have gigantic orgies and the films plot centres around one woman who tries to turn all the other women against him so they can overthrow him and lead the Mongolian hordes as a feminist crew but as soon as she mentions it to 5 people Genghis Khan finds out and brutally cuts of her arms and legs and feeds her to dogs in a scene that lasts 20 minutes.
>Compiling video, complete, movie titled "Genghis Khan and the rebellion of the dogs meal starring Sean Connery as Genghis Khan"
Most excellent I'll be sharing this movie later.
>grassroots pieces
are you fricking moronic? Literally the only gatekeeping for being an artist is skill and passion. thats it. anyone can become an artist. The idea that AI is going to lead to anything other than a shit ton of soulless slop is beyond laughable.
AI has created millions of new artists. It's just another tool to use to create art.
https://creativecommons.org/2023/09/07/an-open-letter-from-artists-using-generative-ai/
Crying like a troony away from their safe space isn't discussion.
>new artists
You arent an artist if the AI is doing all the work anon. You are just taking credit for someone elses work.
>you aren't an artist if the brush is doing all the work
Photobashers are subhuman
Keep telling yourself that while you cry yourselves to sleep knowing that there are countless AI artists with more followers than you. Making more and better art 9999 times faster.
>better
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
if it was better it wouldnt be so obvious that it was AI art in the first place you delusional 3rd world poojeet
Post your work pablo.
Bots aren't real people
>there are countless AI artists with more followers than you
I saw one guy with 40k followers and they got basically no engagement per post and the only comments they got were asking for specs and prompt. Sounds amazing.
Because that's the mark of a real artist. Counting Twitter followers, that is.
And it kept you up all night and here you are weeks later still seething. You are so mad.
Stardew Valley created millions of farmers.
Pretty much the same thing
Honestly a good question. Especially on Ganker of all places. They could very well be bots.
fleshlings being scared
it's a digital pajeet outsourcing studio
art trannies afraid of being replaced
It's crazy how they're still not over it.
Wow, this shit has gotten quite a bit better. It can now almost maintain the character it's generated.
Now that pictures have been mastered we're on to generating feature film kinos.
>feature film
brother the AI can't go three seconds without giving her a third arm
Why does every thread need bait this obvious in it? If you sincerely believe this, you are blacker than midnight. Gg
Because dorks like you take it every time. Lighten up.
almost there
I'm excited, but how many 3090s/4090s did you homosexuals use. I can barely afford one.
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Hey bgay was in that thread
That one was much better. I tried making her less banworthy but they were all worse haha.
What, so you're using CoLab?
>The hands
Man, AI still having a hard time with those things, looks decent otherwise
The past few decades have been an anomaly of artgays being able to push their grift even at mediocre skill levels because of the internet giving a billions-strong group of tasteless monkeys that will eat up whatever they shit out especially if it appeals to their extremely niche fetishes. If AI is actually mass-adopted what we will see is simply a return to normal as real art becomes the domain of a small number of highly skilled artisans while AI is used to mass-produce simple assets.
They wasted their time on useless education
I can understand why people who's living depends on them being the gatekeepers of 'art' wanting to try to keep the tools out of the hands of the masses but it really boggles my mind why even normies seem to be against it.
Communists are just ugly people who hate anything beautiful. They got a good grasp on art production, but AI art means the average joe can just create his beautiful sceneries and gorgeous people without some fat blue-haired lady trying to ruin it.
average joes can only creat average shit
You don't create anything when you write a prompt. You are not an artist and cannot ever become an artist. You aren't a woman either and cannot become one. Stop trying to be something you're not.
go back to sharty chud, not everything is about troons
people dont want to address real problems, because real problems are actually complicated and really challenging to solve, so instead people opt to complain about menial bullshit "problems" because then you can just say "thing bad" and feel like you made a difference.
because they know they cannot compete with AI in a free market
you can't compete with thieves and scammers in a free market, either
CalArts """artists""" scared they will lose control.
Why don't '''they''' just try to control us more with anime?
Japan and Korean have been taking more of the western market in recent years than any other country.
Because anime is visually appealing and beautiful characters are BAD.
Generative AI threatens prestigious, white-collar, even accredited professional jobs (see how machine-learning systems perform versus human radiologists in diagnosis for example). This wasn't meant to happen, AI and automation were supposed to continue to wreck working class sectors/labor. The seethe is for that reason alone: comfortable people who were happy with everyone beneath them being automated away, but only to that level. Same story with lawyers seething about how LLMs should not being allowed to parse and train on case law data, useless doctors terrified their decades of flowchart, algorithmic diagnosis can (surprise, surprise) be replaced by a machine.
Don't let them fool you with the "heh, we're all in it together right?" rhetoric. 99% of these people were, as stated, happy with technology wrecking the livelihoods of everyone beneath them and only those beneath them.
That's pretty much why. A lot of these people are not as smart as they think they are, and their jobs are not as hard as they make it out to be. The common "you'll be a burger-flipper" insult that these people would throw around is now knocking on their doors, since we still don't have good burger-flipping bots but we are getting better medical and lawyering AIs every day.
And that's not even counting blue-collar workers, who have no prospect of being replaced within the next decades.
imagining the upper middle classes in America finally feeling some pain for all the shit they've supported over the past however many decades is kinda based, ngl. may their neighborhoods be infested with the same Black folk they virtue signal for.
Can medical AIs feasibly, after a certain level of development, be trained on new research data as it comes in? I mean supposed some data comes in that says X drug poses 3% risk of stomach ulcers to people in with Y and Z pre-existing conditions. I know that at the moment, the way we "update" medical knowledge is through conferences that, I'm reliably informed, the 20% or so of good doctors actually use to learn new information and the other 80% use to just drink or frick around/use it as a free holiday.
lol I love the "BUT YOU WANT TO SEE A REAL PERSON WHEN YOU COME TO THE DOCTOR RIGHT?" attempts at justifying their fat salaries they come up with. I've had a dozen or so GPs in my life, all but 1 have been utterly useless and their only purpose seems to be gatekeeping their patients from seeing specialists (this is in the UK mind).
Realistically 99% of what a GP does, a nurse practitioner has been able to do for a fraction of the cost for a long while now anyway. It's all just guilding the profession against competition.
Problem is that 1% is gonna kill you.
GPs already regularly get away with murder in most countries. And no, numerous mutually reinforcing studies show that medical AI gives safer and more accurate diagnosis than its human counterparts.
>You gotta pay me a $500,000 salary or you'll die!
>blue collars being replaced by machines for 200 years
>nothing to see here
>white-collars
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
lmao, this is your new house, free market-enjoyer
>AI was supposed to!
They'd have to make robotics a lot more capable, reliable, and functional to replace the "working class/labor"
A lot of those jobs aren't so easily categorized compared to something that just handles visual data input.
From a different perspective on the issue,
"Chatbots" were the very first thing "AI" invented, 50 years ago. After a decade+ we still have car systems that make massive frick ups for no discernable reason.
A lot of these "smart", high payed "skilled people" are worth less than a McDonald's high schooler in reality.
They do need to be replaced and forced to work the mines.
>insert webm of "doctor" looking up youtube video of how to wrap a sprained ankle I don't have
Yeah, line cooks and the like are going to be around for a while, longshoremen, merchant seamen, assembly line workers etc. The labor is already fairly cheap and in a lot of cases the investment in the relevant capital equipment simply isn't worth it (if it even exists).
People don't understand most professional work *is literally* what an LLM does anyway. It's all about imbibing a ton of information and being able to call on it when required. An LLM is in some respects quite literally what a professional learns and does in their day to day work.
Honorable exceptions for people like surgeons of course. They're genuinely incredibly skilled workers.
>Honorable exceptions for people like surgeons of course.
Depends on the type.
You can be a ghost surgeon in some shitty Korean plastic surgery clinic just fine
I dunno why some people seem so excited for AI doing this sorta stuff. I'm so happy I was born before let's say 50 years from now because life is gonna be so insufferably boring when AI is handling almost everything and it becomes impossible to tell what's AI or not.
When someone copes that "oh this sector is safe, oh *real* work will still thrive" I just want to ask you if you would have thought 50 years ago if you were around anything even close to this scale was possible of jobs being replaced. Everything is on the way out much faster than people think they will be.
Jobs being replaced is a good thing
If they all get replaced that frees up humans to do human things.
what are you going to do of value when nothing is valuable or difficult anymore?
Live
yes, what will living be? I'm genuinely curious
Moshe not everything has to be about nickels and dimes.
I dont care about money I care about interesting and exciting endeavors. money could cease to exist and I wouldn't give a shit. but there being no point in thinking anymore would be insufferable boring and just a life of looking what to master bate your hedonism with next practically every day.
This has never happened. "Labour saving" devices being invented just mean you do the same amount of work elsewhere. If robots do actually replace 99% of workers, the rich will either sterilize the former workers in the best case scenario, or have killbots slaughter them all.
AI is great though.
Tradies will still be fine for at least another 2 decades. Insurance companies won't accept handing shit off completely to AI even if it was capable of it and laws still require you to suffer insurance.
It's hilarious, though, how much the artgays cope trying to pretend the electrician or plumber is some simple job any robot could do just because they hate blue collar workers.
But anyone can become an electrician or plumber, but they both required substantial training.
Being an artist is kind of different if you just lack creativity or any kind of skill to build off of.
That isn't to say I agree with him though.
>I just want to ask you if you would have thought 50 years ago if you were around anything even close to this scale was possible of jobs being replaced.
50 years ago your type of homosexuals were preaching about the new age of robotics and electronics phasing out all of those dirty blue collar peasants. Reality was they came in only with large cap entities replacing the workers and often only when they simply had physical trouble finding humans to do the incredibly mind numbing boring jobs of screwing in the same two screws/welding the exact same two lines/attaching the exact same pipes day in, day out. Mostly as the initial investment for the machines was incredibly expensive as precision components like anything pneumatics alone balloons the costs
In the end the truely soul crushing jobs got phased into robots at big fabs while small and medium enterprises kept going the manual route as the human monkey is infinitely more flexible and cheaper then the robust robots. Specially when it comes to small or single exemplar works or god forbid, any jobs on site
but I am sure your glorified algorithms shitting outputs is going to be totally different now and harbringer of the new crypto kingdoms. Not a auxilirary force part of the greater whole like the last round of robotization turned out to be.
>A lot of these "smart", high payed "skilled people" are worth less than a McDonald's high schooler in reality. They do need to be replaced and forced to work the mines.
A lot of AI enthusiasts say a lot of things but still didn't replace the "easy concept artist" jobs they said they would a year ago. Probably because past not respecting the process, they fundamentally are the weakest link in a team. Everyone's looking for the same 2 stories reported like a year ago adnauseum for proof of their philosophy, conflating an economic recession as AI's upbringing.
The artists I followed are doing better than ever even when Twitter is dying + AI spam, so lol. lmao even.
This thread is a guy literally bringing Twitter AI drama to Ganker because it hurt their feelings. Artists mostly keep to themselves, AI enthusiasts literally spam treating it like a political election.
I'm not that guy, but my initial argument was geared more towards upper-middle class professions of various kinds: law and medicine are two very obvious ones. In all honesty I don't wish ill on artists, and I think a concept artist actually works harder (and smarter) than your typical GP does, and the personalized touch is harder to replicate with AI than it is a purely algorithmic process like diagnosis.
Good take.
>Same story with lawyers seething about how LLMs should not being allowed to parse and train on case law data
With a caveat though. Lawyers are the one who control the legal profession. At least in the US, lawyers were granted a legal monopoly by Congress. They decides to gets in and who doesn't. All they have to do is for a judge to issue a standing order "no AI in my court room" and that's it lmao, there won't be any AI (this is not a hypothetical btw, some judges already have these standing orders in place). For transactional practices, AI so far is looking ok - it drafted very good articles of incorporation under Delaware law and good legal memo for a tech startup on all the hoops you need to jump through to become a legal entity. For litigation, however, it is abysmal. Lawyers who use AI at least in court filings already face sanctions because AI tends to make up case law as it goes.
Well said, and the reason I can't help but laugh at their downfall. You get what you fricking deserve, artcucks.
Shut the hell up, you hoser.
You see AI as a means to get rich or to make up for your own talent deficiencies, and as such you'd spin it any way possible to make things appealing to others.
Generative AI right now is making the biggest waves in the world of art and art production. So you're spinning up a story that AI is a story of the Have-Nots striking down the arrogant Haves. The little guy beating those wienery and egotistical artist.
If AI was instead doing the most damage to jobs like industrial worker or warehouse laborer (like previous types of automation did), you'd spin a story that AI was just getting rid of those that didn't deserve a job anyways for being too dumb and poor.
There is nothing to you. You are a shell that will put on any mask you can find to shill your bullshit.
You know that Ganker inherently likes stories of the 'liberal elite' failing, so that is your line of attack. On Tumblr you'd say that AI lets the disabled create what they always dreamed of. On Reddit that it is a step towards AGI and the singularity utopia.
All vacuous words, you nasty shill.
>if something else was happening then things would be different
wow, amazing insight!
The point is, that a real person would react differently to different situations.
A pastiche of a human, like
, wouldn't. They see all different situations as means to an end to shill their own personal dream.
They want generative AI for entirely cynical and personal reasons, and it doesn't matter how it expresses itself or what is effected by it, they'll spin new stories for every scenario. Because it is all fake. It is all an act.
This is such a sad post man...
is this supposed to look like anything other than soulless?
It doesn't matter what he posted, you'd use the same buzzword.
Not him but that's basic logic. It was stitched together by a literal soulless computer. Therefore any art it generates it as soulless as can be.
>you'd use the same buzzword
if its AI generated then yes, because it will always look soulles. AI will never give us anything like pic related
Oh shut the frick up morons, it wasn't even GOOD AI art. It was lazy, basic shit where people had like 7 fingers or half formed glasses melting into their face. It wasn't some abstract shit or well made. It was outright first generation AI art crap that everyone was making a year ago.
It is only a threat to the any artist it is superior to so…
Which is about 99% of artists, as it stands.
Delusional
I just know how greedy companies work
Post your art, anon.
let us all rate it as better or worse than AI generated.
Most people don't go for the "top tier" art.
if AI is just "good enough" on the level of the average artist, but makes it 100x times faster and 100x times cheaper, artists will lose.
I don't understand the "Artists will lose" argument, This is saying like "Piracy makes companies lose money". But no it doesn't because in the first place i would never buy their product i never gave money to artist
artists get paid to draw
AI can draw faster and better than them for free
And that's a bad thing for consumers because?
It's not, it's bad for artists though
it's bad for bad artists. good artists will probably make way more money on this. they're the ones who make styles that AIs copy, they will probably be able to trademark their style and license it out to AIs etc. or use AIs to enhance their own art.
but shit artists mass-producing garbage will be made redundant. i.e., exactly the kinds of people who obtain and retain their jobs not by talent but by social manipulation tactics like shaming. it's no surprise to see lots of them screeching like harpies over this. it's literally the only way they know how to engage with the world. it's like, imagine you have a dog. when a dog detects a problem, or something it doesn't understand, it barks at it. it isn't thinking about why it's barking, it just sees something weird and barks because barking usually solves problems. talentless people are the same. they just see a problem, and they start screeching at it, like a dog. that's all they know how to do.
It's bad for any artist trying to make money*
Get an actual useful job then?
Sure but they mad
no. again, it's bad for BAD artists trying to make money. it's good for GOOD artists, who aren't just mass-producing slop, but are creating unique works of art.
if you're just mass-producing slop, too bad? if your job's redundant then your job's redundant. get with the times.
>but shit artists mass-producing garbage will be made redundant.
riiiight. what AI did, was lower the bar even further. you get literal mass spam this time! it's a literal mass producing garbage algorithm!
>AI can draw faster and better than them for free
funny. AI artists have trouble beating out even the most mediocre patreon artists (in terms of $$$ generated) and even the 'best' of them rely on using another artist's style.
That has nothing to do with the quality of works. People support others because they like them, and you know how troony artists and their servants are. AI enjoyers can usually prompt themselves and have self respect, it's a very different crowd.
>and even the 'best' of them rely on using another artist's style.
Bullshit.
.
there's no quality control behind AI.
>AI enjoyers can usually prompt themselves and have self respect
what a fricking joke. 'self respect', you mean spamming their mass generated images via rule 34 and pixiv? not even having the decency to filter out the best choices in their imagesets before uploading or even photoshopping obvious deficiencies out of their pics?
zero of these AI artists dont even bother personalizing their own pictures in any manner. hence why most of it has the same looking garbage on image sites. the best of them can only use other artist's styles as opposed to the generic algorithmic shit midjourney or whatever shits out. which is funny to me, for all the shitting on 'twitter artists', many of them are quite excited to use impersonate their content.
Not wasting your money on grifting or homosexual artists is having self respect. And there's plenty of quality control, the thing by default makes art better than anyone. You're just seething at this point.
>AI art on boorus tend to be the lowest engagement uploads on the website
wtf bros i thought no one could tell the difference
AI filter stays on
Rule 34 saw a increase in registered users just to start filtering AI, its hilarious
>ai filtered
>3d filtered
oh yeah. its fap tiem!
Don't tell this to the AI enthusiasts. They still think they're fighting Twitter purple hairs.
The vast majority of AI users I know don't do it for profit and if a homosexual tries to they are ridiculed and people will reverse engineer their shit and share it. Most of the time it's dudes helping each other setup and finding out how to make the perfect cameltoe
>be a uniform manufacturer in 1830
>hire a dozen girls and train them to use sewing machines
>tailors mad as FRICK about it
>they burn down my factory
damn I'm glad we stopped sewing machines.
pAIjeets are weirdly vindictive and butthurt all the time. My guess is a deep inferiority complex
But pajeets are the biggest supporters of AI.
Only time I paid an artist for an image commission was an art buddy, and he told me it'd be a month. It took him 3 months, and he gave me a shitty sketch of the character by itself, in an empty void (paid for 1 sketch + bg, and a finished lineart of the character). Everytime I asked for a status update he tried to give me a refund instead of actually working, despite being happy to take my money and linking the character.
I dont like AI art because it is often generic looking and more importantly i can simply make it myself if it's something i want to see for some reason
When done well, you wont notice.
When done bad, you get this type of response.
>When done bad, you get this type of response.
even if it's good they'll seethe
And you should rightly ignore those people.
Feeding them is bad.
You bad person.
/v/'s hate boner for AI in general kind of shocks me. It was all fun and games with the early stuff, but now that the tech is getting decent it is non-stop screeching.
It's only Trannies who are being replaced are the ones screeching, Hopefully they all collectively hang themselves
twitter tourists took over a good amount of Ganker
You don't get it and most of Ganker doesn't because you're neets who live in their parents house. AI scare is they're terking ar jerbs. People are afraid it'll put them out of work.
if AI can replace you, you aren't doing real work anyway lmao
Remember when blue collar workers in red states were being laid off and the same troons crying about AI taking their jobs were telling them just to learn to code or to drawn shitty furry porn? Because I do.
No, I don't. Sounds like a fake story you made up in your head.
Oh wow, a whole single article. Next pile of evidence please?
Its theft
>Leftoids spent the last decade making fun of blue-collar workers that they will get "replaced" soon by robots
>turns out it's actually white-collar workers that will get replaced and blue-collar workers are safe
>they endlessly start to seethe because their jobs are in danger now
This tbh. Why dont they just learn a real skill? I mean that's what they told those 40-50 year old blue collar workers to do.
"artists" are some of the most entitled people around. when they call consumers "entitled" for not wanting to pay them for garbage products its pure projection. keep in mind most of these "artists" are hardcore leftists who think they are literally entitled to your money through taxes to live off and produce dogshit art that nobody wants to pay for
Someone should tell them that the greatest artists lived and died in poverty and their art was only recognized after death when people wanted to profit off of it.
>keep in mind most of these "artists" are hardcore leftists who think they are literally entitled to your money through taxes to live off and produce dogshit art that nobody wants to pay for
I can link you 50 artists on Twitter that haven't spoken a word about this. But because they're your direct competition "liberal! purple hair!!!"
Construct an artificial caricature of someone that is not present in the conversation to fuel your own inherent biases. Classic American.
first of all im swedish and ive been around these people, been to their educational institutions. they dont have purple hair, they look normal. and they produce "competent" art and music. its just that its not profitable, nobody wants to spend their excess income on 90% of them and what they produce, yet the large majority of them think they are entitled to and deserve government funds to produce their dogshit and live their lifestyle.
you are projecting, you are doing yourself what you accused me of
Because the people that smugly mocked coal miners for getting laid off now fear having to take their own medicine.
There had already been controversy bubbling around it. Check the older Steam reviews, or their Discord. Mandalore was probably just the final shove.
Also
>a South African studio made of literally 2 people
>AA
lol
Sane, intelligent people are capable of extrapolation. Also, it threatens the livelihood of sellouts.
its just Ganker chronic contrarianism at work
AI is not going anywhere, specially after all the free advertisement it has gotten
This stuff was supposed to replace truckers and people who work in manufacturing/warehousing. Instead it’s replacing creatives and ‘professionals’ so now it’s a problem.
"Artists" tend to have a very inflated opinion of themselves and their supposed importance.
My main concern is that without any safeguards it will continue to advance and pretty soon people will be generating fake videos/pictures that look 100% real in order to threaten, harass, or extort people.
And for the record I don't give a shit about rich people or politicians but average people will be victims, someone was already able to use an AI image to convince some dude that his daughter was kidnapped by a Mexican cartel or something and forced him to pay a ransom.
>it will continue to advance
You're a moron buddy.
>pretty soon people will be generating fake videos/pictures that look 100% real in order to threaten, harass, or extort people.
You mean entertain people. You always look at the extreme negatives because you're programmed to. Who has the most to lose when anon can make feature films?
The people that like ai in general are very cancerous and spam their shit everywhere. Literally like half the boards on Ganker have generals for ai images that are constantly bumped by 3-5 of the same people. On other websites ai discussion is entirely motivated by people that want to make money off it. Almost everyone that uses it thinks it's going to make them rich.
>people post art on imageboards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bro u good?
Image boards are supposed to have discussion in them
dont forget its a easy way to create low effort bots that spam tiktok/youtube for shorts and content farm
150% accurate. It's like how people were in NFTs for "the art" or "the flex". It was all a lie.
Ganker has existed for more than 10 years and artists have never created a deep running spam and political bait issue. Outside of maybe guriella marketing shadman threads or whatever.
Neither have AI artists, you're unhinged.
This thread is a Twitter screencap thread trying to victimizing the AI community as getting brigaded by liberals.
You can't gaslight me, I've been on this site for a while.
>trying to victimizing the AI communit
GOOD MORNING SIRS PLEASE RESPECT THE AI AND DONT VICTIMIZING THEM
>This is a bait thread meant to trigger anti-AI autists, moronic newbie.
That's what I just said, maybe I didn't word it well.
I'm saying AI enthusiasts are trying to paint themselves as the victim by dragging Twitter drama into the thread. That is painfully obvious what the thread is, not innocent "good faith" discussion. This is why people hate AI posters on Ganker.
>by liberals.
wrong board /misc/tard
This is a bait thread meant to trigger anti-AI autists, moronic newbie.
Case in point, he's sperging out so bad he didn't even read your post.
That's a Youtube community screenshot
same difference tbh
The original cotton machines were just straight up better in many cases regarding the end result. As you said, deliberate obtuseness, but on your part.
I'm just eating my food and saw this on the front page. Like, from my perspective, why should I care how many followers someone had on Twitter? You're the one that tried to make it about that, lol.
I'm trying to show that AI artists being in it "for the art" is a blatant lie.
>why should I care how many followers someone had on Twitter?
You looked, you obsessed.
>I'm trying to show that AI artists being in it "for the art" is a blatant lie.
This makes zero sense. You are deranged.
>You looked, you obsessed.
You're the one that brought it up? On Twitter following count is right under the username. I clicked on a few of the guy's uploads and the comments felt like either spam or completely disconnected from the "art piece", assuming the post had comments.
If you were actually "in it for the art" you can always link a page of an AI artist you do respect instead? But here you are arguing about Twitter followers as some objective metric (there are industry professionals with less than 200 followers btw)
>in many cases
Sure, and "AI" is generally far superior to a moronic child's crayon drawing, while being inferior to a master artist. There will have been tailors less skilled than the machines, but the machines were not meant to compete on quality but cost. Certainly many of the luddites were convinced they produced higher quality than the machines.
>Sure, and "AI" is generally far superior to a moronic child's crayon drawing,
The fact you need to make this argument to baby AI is hilarious. I won't even address this, the quote is comedy in and of itself, yet you'll say artists are coping.
I respect AI enthusiasts that are actually making stuff because they think it's cool or are interested in the tech. That being said, 99% of AI enthusiasts I meet give strong crypto grifter vibes.
If you honestly think BlackRock and co are anti-AI, you are delusional. The current AI push is done by Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI. Lol, lmao.
I have not met these supposed self entitled narcissistic artists. My world view is fundamentally different than yours.
>That being said, 99% of AI enthusiasts I meet give strong crypto grifter vibes
That is simply untrue. Most do it for fun or faps, grifters are just the most vocal and visible ones.
I go on a random Discord channel and it's people talking about how they totally offer more capitalistic value than that one Twitter screencap.
The ratio of people in these AI communities actually trying to make something is like 1/10.
Well maybe my view is skewed by only participating on Ganker generals.
>That being said, 99% of AI enthusiasts I meet give strong crypto grifter vibes.
You're completely full of shit.
>If you honestly think BlackRock and co are anti-AI, you are delusional. The current AI push is done by Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI. Lol, lmao.
They're playing both sides. They want it, they don't want us to have it.
>I have not met these supposed self entitled narcissistic artists. My world view is fundamentally different than yours.
Every artist who says "pick up a pencil" qualifies. That's 99% of the artists against AI btw.
nta but literally anyone can pick up a pencil and draw unless your fingers dont work. no artist is born with the skill. just be creative with it and it is infinitely more liberating than prompting, even if you think the end result is ugly.
They can also create art their way you narcissistic self entitled "artist". Your opinion is literally worthless, grow up and realize not everyone is like you and that no one cares about your frustration.
you sound infinitely more frustrated about this than i am. dont be insecure about your drawing skills, just let your mind run wild and have fun. you can let a computer think for you but its much more liberating to create for yourself and see where your mind takes you.
You only say that because you're trying to project. You know you're seething, you wouldn't be in this thread crying about AI otherwise.
Your anger isn't healthy
That's like being mind broken because your favorite composer told you to play an instrument. Even if you're hardcore into AI it objectively gives you more options.
>You're completely full of shit
I'm being dead serious, these same people were pushing crypto and NFTs in the server I'm in. Once the metaverse thing died down they started pivoting hard into AI and "replacing artists". I'm not making this up.
Tell me literally any good that will come from generative AI.
Not machine learning, but generative AI itself.
Imagine if you could commission any artist(including writers etc) to create some bullshit for you
Well, for the most you can't because they're either not willing to or fricking dead
But with generative AI, you can
Also, it's fun
Why do you hate fun?
The only bad thing about AI is the possibility of a monopoly on it, and you can bet them are trying their hardest to make that monopoly a reality
If I am commissioning an artist, that means I respect their work and vision and believe it can make whatever I want made, better than I could myself.
In which case, AI provides no advantage because it doesn't have their skillset or judgement. At best, it is an empty facsimile. And that is only if I trained my AI on their copyrighted work and basically cheated them out of their effort and rights to their creation.
Otherwise, I'd rather make it myself.
I hate fun when the consequences of fun do more damage than its worth.
>If I am commissioning an artist, that means
That you are moronic. Genuinely moronic and wasting your money.
No it means that they can draw/make music better than I can, in a certain way at the very least.
I can't draw like Beksinski. He has a talent at drawing the grotesque and inhuman while still identifiable that I probably couldn't ever match.
If I commissioned something from a guy like that, it'd be entirely based on their specific skills and vision that I don't have.
An AI could never replace him because what I want, is what only he can give.
And then an actual AI replicating his brain to the last neuron is created. There is nothing only a specific person can give, because for any product made by a human there is some computer program that replicates exactly that product down to the last molecule.
It's created how?
Assembly.
Who knows, but it is easily mathematically provable that it isn't impossible, meaning any claims of what "could never" happen are ridiculous.
Provable how?
I'm not going to be posting proofs here any more than you are likely to prove the contradiction in an AI replicating some particular human behaviour, which would be the only way of demonstrating definitive impossibility
If your world is post-singularity, then any talk about generative AI is already moot.
Why pay for a chef to cook you food?
Why pay for a carpenter to repair your floor?
Why pay a contractor to repair your roof?
Why pay a mechanic to fix your car?
Why pay an accountant to do your taxes?
Everyone has a point where they need to contract out to another for skills they don't have.
Art and artistic vision is one of those. I'm not an uncreative person, but there are people that are creative in a way that I am not.
>If your world is post-singularity, then any talk about generative AI is already moot.
Granted, but then categorical possibility claims extend beyond any potential singularities
You are genuinely moronic and waste your money.
Since you are on a video game board, generative AI will lead to more video games being made because they become cheaper to make.
There are already more games being released every year than any one person could play in their entire lifetime.
We don't need more games. We need better games. And generative AI doesn't lead to any substantial number of better games. Instead it will lead to even more shovelware.
>And generative AI doesn't lead to any substantial number of better games. Instead it will lead to even more shovelware.
You are wrong. This is just your autistic opinion because you hate AI art despite it being a good thing.
I am absolutely correct.
Good games have art in them that is made with the intention of furthering the atmosphere and message of the game.
It is made by people with skill and vision who care about the details of what they're creating.
AI isn't going to give some Amadeus of game design the keys to the kingdom so they can make the Best Game Ever. They're just going to enable shitty studios to drop more and more algorithmically generated games that are designed to be as low rent and cheap as possible.
You don't pay attention to AI art then. Good game art can't compete with what AI shits out easily. You probably play dog shit games too, given your bias.
Look gay, you'll have more money to make better games if the cost to make quality art goes down due to ai. It's pretty fricking simple to understand.
As the cost drops, so does the quality of the artwork.
Artwork made by a person, even the cheapest and simplest, has more vision and intention to it than any generative AI product could.
What do you mean by a 'better game'? What part of game design or budgeting is limited in scope because of art asset creation costs? The only real answer is the actual volume of stuff within the game, but more is not always or even usually better in video games. See the sludge of Ubisoft sandboxes that are massive in scope but empty inside.
Really, when did AI art generators develop sentience or the ability to have an artistic vision?
Link me some.
They can’t wrap their brain around how it works it and what it actually does. So they hur dur meme response “manmade terrors, literally skynet” not realizing almost all issues and ethics surrounding it come from people using it unethically.
Like if there existed a slave race of goblin artisans that were really good at copying anything but only things you show them using their labor would be (minus moral dilemmas) mostly the same as using ai tools in creative projects.
the real answer is domesticated goyim cattle have been born and raised to worship the state. intellectual property laws can only exist because of government intervention in the free market and the modern gentile masses love nothing more than just that
>AAAAAHHH NOOO MUH HECKIN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY MUH STOLEN 1S AND 0S PLEASE DADDY GOVERNMENT LOBOTOMIZE THE TECHNOLOGY AND JUSTIFY YOUR MONOPOLY ON VIOLENCE!!!!
only low IQ golems believe that shit
you samegayged so much with this same politics strawman it's honestly sad
people dislike aislop because it's ugly slop, my guy, it's not complicated
i dislike ugly AIslop too but there is no moral element to it. "artists" why cry about "derivative copyright violation" should be turned into fertilizer
Most of AI art is ugly slop but not all of it. Most of the hate is not organic, it's obvious fricking astroturf.
>but not all of it
Nah all of it is stinky slop anybody can tell apart.
>Most of the hate is not organic
But by your own words most of aislop is shit?
Go back to /ic/, homosexual.
Go back to scamming boomers out of gift cards Sanjay
Fricking gotcha, you are an /ic/ shitter lol. Get a useful skill before you are forced to flip burgers, homosexual.
>street shitter calling anybody else a shitter
Sir...
because AI is just a tool for create a quick prototype and later manually re-design in you wacom. But many people think the output is the final result and is uploaded with no quality control, now pixiv and gelbooru have lots of picture with girls with seven fingers.
AA developers can afford to hire an artist or two full time
Yeah, and it's clear they worked on the rest of the game. The AI art in question is jpgs on in game PCs, and portraits for characters who've had their minds and personalities uploaded to computer heaven.
Or they could save more money and just use AI and focus on stuff that actually matters
"AA" is just another word for being low budget
You guys forget that you need an artist to use AI.
>cheap knock-off made by china
>who would ever buy this slop
>cheap knock-off made by a computer
>IT'S THE NEXT AGE!!!!! WHY ARE YOU AGAINST PROGRESS!!!!!!!
Now rate Starfield.
Both sides of this are deplorable.
The gay youtuber for crying abojt AI art that literally does nothing but fill empty voids that have nothing to with the plot, aka completely harmless.
On the other hand the gay devs that both denounced AI use previously, then used it in their game, and then backpedaled immediately after being called out.
In fact, the timing is so perfect that it makes me think there was an agreement between both sides in a shameless marketing stunt.
>aka completely harmless
aka completely meaningless
that's what this AI "art" revolution is gonna bring us
a flood of meaningless bullshit
it's easy to spot now and move on
soon enough you're not going to know
art will become background noise
Reviewing a game is harassment now?
They released the ai removal update less than 24 hours after the video went up. They were obviously in cahoots.
Supposedly, as mentioned in the OP he was tweeting about this a week or so before he dropped the video. Still doesn't rule it out, though.
Publicly shaming a developer for the use of AI isn't reviewing a game, anon...
>you're not allowed to say bad things about a game in a review
>Publicly shaming and shit posting on Twitter is the same as a video review
He spent almost 5 minutes of the review seething at a couple photos existence in optional terminals. It was obviously not about the fact that it looked a little strange and was based on ideological leanings. Remember the dude exclusively hangs with trannies and leftoids in discord all day these days.
>Seething
You're a hyperbolic moron. He said that it was weird and the glaring AI art problems like fricked up hands was seriously distracting from an amazing game. And I agree with him. If there were not blatant anatomical errors in it then no one would care, but that is not the case. It was heavily distracting. He also made it clear that he thought the team was gonna fix it prior to the console release and updated the pinned comment when they did. He was very fair to them. He recommended the game and didn't go "AI BAD DON'T BUY THIS BECAUSE AI"
He sad that the ai art detracted from all the good art and just detracted from the actual hints
This isn't anything like harassment
That Mandalore guy seems like an opportunistic and nasty piece of shit in general
He is. People forget he's the same guy that said Shodan was trans. Guy's obviously part of some marketing strategy, or a grade-a shill. Not that I can blame him for that last one.
>grade-a shill
Most youtubers are.
Ggmanshills is especially egregious just because he acts like a fair-and-balanced reviewer
explain
He is a giant homosexual.
I would frick your little throat raw Mandalore (and you would probably enjoy it you homo).
That's hot
Mandalore needs to be rape corrected so that he becomes a better reviewer
I think anyone who commits a fair bit of time and passion to obscure vidya reviews of all things probably has a thing or two going on in the brain. Really I only fault him for the shit with condemning Vinny because he didn't marry some fan he fricked that screeched about it.
Being youtube famous for your entire adult life leads you to hold some really uninformed and childish positions.
He is just a paid marketer for GOG ignore everything he does he only operates as a shill for a website.
All these companies are going to regret putting AI art in their games. We are one IP lawsuit away from heavy regulations being added to AI art since all AI art is just art it copies from the internet and its using copyrighted images to create new "art" and there is no way in hell this will be a thing for much longer.
That not how AI works, AI learns from Art, like any human, but it does not scrap art, it draws after learning.
The idea that learning is now phorbided because you learned from it is moronic and boderline unethical.
By the way, using the State monopoly on violence to enforce copyright laws, aka protect corporations and individuals from competition, is wrong by any ethical standards and no one has property rights of information, let alone other peoples minds drawing something, intelectual property doesnt exist.
AI is here to stay, you want to restrict creative work of other people just because you are a afriad of a tool tha cheapens products and services of your trade, you are and butthole.
>AI learns from Art, like any human
Now i understand why you people are moronic if you actually think this.
2 more weeks
I heard that mandalore was pedo, wtf happened
you're trying too hard
also, stick to one story if you want it to gain any traction
good morning, sirs
its not enough for this homosexual to try and cancel vinny now he wants to cancel a small polish studio
He cared way too much about it
After all, the player character is exploring a government facility with a bunch of horrific science experiments. It makes sense there's unrelated incomprehensible horrors next to the clues. It's your job to figure out what you want
NOOOOOOOOO BUT I NEEEEED TO CANCEL SOMEONE
ITS MY LIFE GOAL TO CANCEL SOMEONE
DIDNT WORK WITH VINNY, HE LAWYERED UP
MAYBE I CAN CANCEL SMALL POLISH STUDIO
he's buddy buddy with that homosexualy twitterbrained VA that does awful duke impressions. he's just about getting dropped from my sub list. the fact that he got that mad about it was ridiculous.
No, he had a perfectly valid point. If you clutter your game in meaningless crap, that detracts from the game. And people KNOW everything made by AI is meaningless. As soon as you realize something is AI-made, your brain tells you "this is fake, I shouldn't look at this, I shouldn't play this".
Reviewing something negatively isn't "canceling" or "Harassing" it you fricking psycho schitzo maniac.
>And people KNOW everything made by AI is meaningless. As soon as you realize something is AI-made, your brain tells you "this is fake, I shouldn't look at this, I shouldn't play this"
Did you take the final exam on your Sociology 102 class yet? That's deep bro. But wait, didn't the semester just start? Reading ahead in the text book?
it's not that deep, idiot
maybe think about it a little bit before rushing to an imaginary zinger
>If you clutter your game in meaningless crap, that detracts from the game.
Screenshot them if they were so prominent, you played it didn't you?
>As soon as you realize something is AI-made, your brain tells you "this is fake, I shouldn't look at this, I shouldn't play this".
Sounds like a you problem
nah, people pay for genuine stuff, If i spot AI slop I will instantly refund or simply don't buy.
AI slop is symptom of sloppy job, that devs didn't care and just wanted to push out stuff. It's about dishonesty and work ethics. Not producing your best but not even caring to produce your worst
Not many people are as spastic as you are. You're like the people saying they wouldn't buy Hogwarts for whatever reason and then it goes on to sell 20 million copies.
based.
the market is so flooded with shit, why should bother with shitters that cant even put effort into it?
If they used a computer or any tools at all, then they're taking shortcuts and it's a red flag that they're just in it for the money. Humans should only work with their hands, anything else unnatural.
>If you clutter your game in meaningless crap, that detracts from the game.
entire homosexuallore career is meaningless crap lmao
the only real problem was as he said, mixing the AI space-fillers with the actual plot relevant images, and the devs not doing a pass on the final products like with the guy who has half-glasses
>the problem is that you have to use your brain to determine which images have clues in them
Fricking morons, I swear.
Ye.
>used AI art to add extra atmosphere to a game
It's not atmosphere if it's AI. It's just random noise. A game can only have atmosphere if all content in it is handmade.
>Implying that the people in charge of AI generated content for the game had to sift through piles of trash to find content that didn't just look stupid.
I would understand if it was EA or a big dev cutting corners, but why give a shit if it's a small dev team, even more considering the rest of the game looks fricking amazing
Good artists generally think about every detail they include in their work, which is something AI can't quite do yet to the same effect
So it's good for generating textures but if your game includes important occult scribblings or some other significant detail then you probably shouldn't randomly generate it
Especially in horror or psychological games where tiny details can be used for great effect, you're not going to get the same impact if you know some AI put it together haphazardly so it doesn't really mean anything to anyone
>Good artists generally think about every detail they include in their work,
give some examples, specific ones and not strawmen
Someone like Masahiro Ito (Silent Hill) or Kazuma Kaneko (SMT, Devil May Cry) or Viktor Antonov (Half Life 2) or any of the other artists that existed before the advent of AI
What else did you think they did to make their art? Draw concepts out of a hat?
And we don't even have to consider just videogame artists, you're not going to get a Michelangelo or a Bosch if you're not carefully weighing every detail against everything else
the capcom thing made me think a lot of artists just copy things out of concept books anyway
At least two of those people will be using AI for their art.
>Will be
But not before
His reasoning was literally just that it was stuffed into sections where something shown was plot important but because it was AI-made, a lot of it was visually incoherent and any potential atmosphere or foreshadowing it could offer was non-existent since it was just visual gibberish based on the words "spooky." Also because they only did it because they're Africans who adopted the Black person mindset of not wanting to put in effort.
>visually incoherent
>a small piece of an eyeglasses frame was out of focus
>AHHHH WHAT THE FRICK IS THIS IMAGE SUPPOSED TO DEPICT I'VE LOST CONTROL OF REALITY
You're going to need to address what I said instead of posting an ebonics tweet from Black person twitter.
I have no obligation to address anything from an actual Black person who probably answers the classic question with "But I had breakfast yesterday" when you will continue to wildly misinterpret it with your melanin-tainted apebrain.
Then post an example if you played it
Would you also consider it a problem that in picrel some paintings are just there for volume?
Yeah, actually, I would. It's annoying visual clutter. Same as the eight billion ferns in the Half-Life Cinematic Mod.
That is no where near the same thing
Same philosophy at play. It's adding unneeded shit when less is more.
Then I'll say you have a narrow perspective and a very german taste in art. A game's world would look too empty if art direction went your way
All advances in illustration make it more accessible and of lesser "soul"
FRIGHTENING and CHILLING... just moments before.... he tweeted ....
pajeet seethe thread
Iirc the devs are from south africa
>giving a shit about what TransdaloreGaming has to say
i don't watch youtubers much but i've blocked his channel and other media since the whole vinesauce fiasco he pulled, don't really care if there was an apology behind, i just don't care about social drama in general.
>don't care about social drama in general
>seethe so much from social media drama you go to the trouble of blocking multiple a guy on multiple sites
Lol
>don't really care if there was an apology behind
There wasn't. Not a serious one that admits he was wrong at least.
Vinny is a stupid homosexual too
"B-b-but my core 4chin streamer bros he's a based boy cause he said Black person forever ago"
Where did the AI pajeet meme came from?
AI is the White Man's creation, the Rohans and Vihaans and Mustafas can only dream of developing the same
they use AI to make shitty scam games on steam, use it to shill garbage and make shitty NFTs.
So, no different than before?
but with AI its easier for them. they can shit out 1000 NFTs per day and 10 steam games per week
Most artists are communists and sincerely believe labor should determine their arts value, not audience demand.
>If art is good it's good
>If art is bad it's bad
>If Ai art is good it's good
>If Ai art is bad it's bad
Really don't see what the difference is. As long as the ai art looks good I literally don't give a shit that it's ai.
You might as well get upset about art being made by a cis white man, it's irrelevant to the quality.
>a phone call from a friend is good
>a phone call from a spammer/scammer is bad
it's not rocket surgery, anon
>artists are my friends
decent bait
anybody post the before/after
im just lazy and dont want to go to that turd's channel
I find it highly ironic that morons screech about "x-slop" every other post, then defend AI images at the same time.
AI images are the definition of slop.
To be fair, AIslop is less sloppy than CalArts slop
It's the lesser evil and it puts Alegria artstyle majors out of a job so that's a plus
Sure, you're killing a few calarts morons and their shit art, but you're also killing a lot of good artists with a unique style at the same time.
Just imagine if the next vanillaware game will decide it's cheaper to use AI generated shit over their handcrafted stuff?
Anime already uses tons of 3D CGI garbage, now and AI generated trash on top of that.
Like, will there be some sort of quality control commission for AI images to ensure only the best of the best get chosen or will they just feed you garbage images, but hide it with "innovation! First anime to ever be 100% generated by ai" marketing speak?
It is hilarious how much harm these Gankertuber marketers end up doing to the things they shill.
what harm did the video do besides stirring up fake controversy around a nonissue that serves as free marketing?
This thread itself is free shilling brought about by the 'issue' of Ai art which most people don't give a shit about and wouldn't factor in to a purchasing decision.
Civvie had his entire channel fall to the wayside because he was shackled to newblood for a year plus being their shillman.
He is so fricking bitter now holy shit.
Mandalore had to stop teaming up with GOG because people noticed his GOG shilling was so intense lol.
whats the beast free to use AI pic generator, i tried midjourney but its subscription based
This thread made me watch the review and you all are homosexuals blowing what he said out of proportion. 95% of what he said about the game was singing its praises and then he was wondering why the team was including poorly made AI art along with really well made art. The AI art he showed was really bad and I don't know why the team included it when all of the important art is made by hand. He showed off pictures of AI generated scientists that had fricked up hands and stuff like that.
thanks, now I don't have to watch the review, since I was going to play it. Frick off Ganker for blowing out shit ai art out of porportion. If you can't tell that it's AI art, it's not worth caring about
>why is Ganker, shitposter central. is blowing things out of proportion?
Manufactured hysteria is the best (You)s farming tool.
If it wasn't important, then why b***h about and call out the devs on social media for it.
Seems like Mandy thought it was.
The AI art included is not important, as in they did not make a story necessary piece of art out of AI. They did not need to use AI art to finish the product. It is like they made the AI art as placeholders and didn't not replace them until the last few days.
You also ignored the rest of my post where everything else he had to say was popular, including going as far as to say it is one of the most atmospheric isometric games ever made and that the studio was punching well above their weight. He listed his opinions, the vast majority of which were positive and then gave a few negatives including out of place, poorly made AI art.
If the AI art wasn't important, than why does it need to be brought up like it's a negative? Why go after the devs for it on Twitter? There's some cognitive dissonance here. I'm not talking about the review itself, I'm talking about how a YouTuber thinks it's okay to harass Vidya developers for including content he doesn't like, which he did. To the point where they had to release an update to remove said content.
>Why go after the devs for it on Twitter? There's some cognitive dissonance here. I'm not talking about the review itself, I'm talking about how a YouTuber thinks it's okay to harass Vidya developers for including content he doesn't like, which he did. To the point where they had to release an update to remove said content.
Youtubers are unironically one of the most arrogant pieces of shits online.
Holy shit you sensitive fricking baby, are you on the dev team? Why are you crying? Why are you whining?
The team is moronic for using poorly made AI art when it was not necessary. It was clearly a mistake, a mistake they knew was the case because they had fixed it weeks ago (according to them) yet they had not pushed the update. So basically what you're doing right now is trying to defend devs who know that they messed up with the poorly made AI art, fixed it, yet did not deploy the fix yet and then did after the game got more attention from a popular reviewer. The devs were not mad either. Their response is as followed on their video.
So, now that you see the team thanking him for the review and the deep dive on the game (as well as the previous review he did for the first game) are you gonna keep crying like a little b***hboy?
frick off with ai slopp shit. You expect me to pay for sloppy product? frick off
good. frick ai art, its plagiarism, lazy, and dishonest
peoples expectetions shouldnt be so low that something as lazy as not even plagiarising yourself, but having ai do it for you, is seen as being in any comperable to making the thing yourself
if a human being can make something, theres no excuse to use ai
the criticism wasn't even about the morality of using AI art instead of hiring an artist, he was just complaining about how distracting it is to notice AI filler art mixed in with carefully placed art with foreshadowing. Some of it they could have just tried harder to clean up and it would have looked more professional. He even admits he was nitpicking about it as you could handwave the dumb fricked up AI hands as part of the uncanny valley tone the game went for.
I do not care what that troony loving snake homosexual e-celeb says
I only want AI if if gets us better looking and fully animated drawn porn
I will bite the bullet and say it. creative works never meant to be monetized, YOUR main job must never be being an artist
>AI art is bad, because its just bad okay, just trust me on this one okay
Give me one reason why generative art is bad, and do not appeal to emotion because emotions aren't real.
If your creation does not require the physical suffering of the creator (not mental, emotions aren't real), it is not worth anything. Buildings always have industrial accidents and even when they don't give the people who build them arthritis and back problems and all sorts of awful shit. Oil rigs kill people all the time. Artists frick their wrists up and kill themselves all the time. That gives the art value. AIjeets just type some words in, the worst they deal with is some tendonitis easily treated by NSAIDs. It's valueless, and valueless things shouldn't exist.
Using AI has lots of suffering. It's high art.
Mental suffering isn't real, and typing words into a prompt isn't physical suffering. It's not art. It's valueless, and valueless things shouldn't exist.
Yes it is and using a computer has a physical toll. It's art. It's worth something. It will exist no matter how much you cry lmao.
There is no physical toll that isn't easily treatable and prevented by simply stopping doing it. Artists get carpal tunnel and shit or have autism fits where they cut their ears off. AIjeets don't suffer so they don't understand that, they think cutting their finger is "suffering." This devalues their work to the point of valuelessness.
Negative value doesn't exist, that's just a relative reference. My posts, your posts, are all valueless since no physical suffering is required.
Because I physically suffer through my employment of choice, and also to make others suffer.
This anon got owned but he is denying it.
What "owned"? What physical suffering do you go through for your AIjeet slop?
value is relative, and if you ask me you have negative value
>valueless things shouldn't exist.
Then why do you exist?
>Artist genuinely enjoys painting
>No suffering involved in making painting
>Therefore painting worthless
You're describing emotions, which aren't real. We're talking about physical suffering, something that is actually real.
Yeah and there's no physical suffering in painting a picture
Tell that to pic related.
No, he's meaningless to that statement.
Is that a zoomer drawn by AI in Gogh's style or an actual painting?
>AI paranoia now has people questioning legit classic art pieces
It's only going to get harder and harder to spot them. Remember when the go-to was to joke about hands? That got outdated real quick
The appreciation for digital art will go down and the appreciation for physical traditional art pieces will go up. If AI robots ever manage to do traditional art pieces that look human with human brush strokes and what not they would have already taken ALL our jobs.
The act of painting itself involves no injury, unless maybe you paint it in your blood or jam nails into your hands between brush strokes.
Your bones bro
>physical suffering
The experience of suffering is all there is to suffering even when the cause is an injury. This experience is the same kind of thing as any emotion.
>prompt a computer to generate images about nothing
>prompt the computer to animate them in a way that conveys further nothing
What did anon mean by this?
well I posted more with more happening, I guess you saw those
>elf girl with red jelly holding cup
>animated so the cup spontaneously starts having red jelly on it midway through the elf girl swaying in place while doing nothing
I guess this could be something? Maybe?
it's a thing
Why does it need a reason?
I can understand looking at a picture you like, but animation is pretty explicitly intended to portray an action, or a motion, or whatever, but something tangible and specific.
It's like an artist scanning every painting he makes and editing it in fricking Live2D to make any humans in the image tilt side-to-side for no reason.
Just, why? You're adding more points of failure to something already heavily flawed with no discernible end goal at all.
Do you even understand the gravity of these clips? It's insanely cool even if they're just moving an inch.
No that isn't cool it looks like tracing.
Draw 16 completely unique images and make them into a coherent video in 20 seconds. This is MIND BLOWING dude.
This is the gulf between someone intelligent enough to understand how cool this is and a monkeyman. Don't be the monkeyman.
Are you getting upset that anon said AI art looks like tracing?
nah I just want you to see what's in front of you
Crappy AI tracing. I see it.
No, hes getting mad that hes minimizing how awesome such tech is, even if its clearly still in its infancy. Its like calling an artificial baby moronic because it can't walk or speak english yet.
Nothing wrong with calling an artificial baby moronic. They should have programmed it better.
Not if its suppose to learn and grow over time.
Yes. You still program it better knowing it can learn over time.
You people are moronic.
You don't program knowledge. You give it the capacity to learn and let it do so organically. You're so moronic.
With still images it was impressive sure, but people CAN draw pretty fast so it wasn't inhuman or anything.
The fact that you can press button and get these animations in seconds is actually absurd though.
I feel like advertising will pick up on it first probably, soon I expect all commercials to be AI animated and narrated. Like why would you pay anyone for that in the first place? It's shit nobody cares about.
The best video tools are being built for Hollywood production so yeah, commercials and movies.
Gee, I wonder if there's a reason that AI art looks like tracing...
The computer being able to automate a crude approximation of a complex task is impressive in a sense but it's not particularly mind boggling.
If anything I think you might be underestimating how much goes into an animation that actually shows something and doesn't look like complete ass.
You don't get it and I can't understand why.
I could say the same to you.
So how long before all the AI tool owners start charging for their shit and we'll be in the same situation as artists charging for art?
>tfw you harass an AA Vidya developer because they used AI art to add extra atmosphere to a game.
Beyond Based.
So is an "AI prompt monkey" an actual job title?
Should I start learning this shit to not fall behind?
Yeah, the standards aren't high and you can impress boomers by showing them "hallucinations" like false wikipedia image links and chatgpt doing 30 IQ math
Mandalore is still a Black person for spreading that completely fake rape hitpiece about vinny, made up by a furry pedophile, then backing down like a little b***h when lawyers were threatened to be called
>pajeets mad after discovering that actually nobody wants to look at their soulless generic slop
Lol enjoy getting bullied out of every space and getting buttfricked by regulations.
You really though you were gonna be "prompt engineers" (lmfao)
Another fad scam technology like NFTs and VR
Learn a real skill or pick up a brush if you want to get out of your brown ghetto.
>smug anime girl
wow you're so angry
You are nigcel with literal micro penis tho.
Imagine still being asshurt about AI art holy shit man get off social media
Or at least point the devs to an artist that can make realistic looking nonsense gore for them, you stupid c**t
>Didn't watch the review
>Has no idea the context
>Doesn't know what was said
>Didn't know what happened
>Still commented
That's called a normal one from the AI community.
The comical part is no heckin liberal artist presented an argument, the guy literally dragged twitter drama into Ganker by sheer force of will. They don't want to let go.
>Still commented
No, I "posted"
This isn't Reddit or Youtube or whatever website you snowed in from.
homosexual.
You're an oldgay! You've been here since 2016!
I was just trying to help, since you seem to be confused what website this is.
See you in /ptg/!
reject flesh
embrace the machines
I played this game and don't have any idea what this homosexual is b***hing about. He's a professional b***her. Should be called Gayralt the b***her.
>failed Twitter "ai artist" thread
If they're failing why you need to harass people to stop doing it?
Honestly it feels like the other way around. Twitter artists didn't make this thread. In fact, they're never the ones picking fights on Ganker. They're making memes in drawgay threads.
A lot of AI enthusiasts latch onto concept art because they think that it's the easiest vector to force the tech into. "oh they photobash, oh the painting is messy, they're lazy!". When in reality it's very hands on into development and about rapid iteration in context of the current state of the game.
I saw a guy at a AAA company laughing at the AI job applications they were getting.
Why is it not ok to use AI-generated assets for a game? Not using AI to make the whole game mind you, just some of the images/textures in it.
Because the AI art was bad. This is the thing no one is mentioning. Most of it was nonsensical. The AI art of humans had anatomical problems like people with 6-7 fingers on one hand, or half formed glasses that are glitching into people's faces. If it was made by a human it would be called bad art.
it looked fine, it was perfectly average, there is nothing wrong with average.
It's fine to use as long as it matches the rest of the quality of the game, distractingly bad art is bad regardless if it's AI or not
Not unique enough, gives asset flip vibes. Working around AI's limitations is not comprehensive regarding every asset you need unless your whole game is 3/4th view portraits.
>AI ART GOOD BECAUSE IT... IT... UH... IT MAKES PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE MAD
>AI is bad because it just is okay
GOOD MORNING SIRS GANGES RIVER BLESSING TO YOU ALL
good morning
I hate how we can't criticize youtubers without their legion of zoomers defending them.
And I hate how we can't criticize AIjeets without legions of streetshitters and the mods (for some fricking reason) defending them.
Guess we can't all get what we want, huh?
>literal eceleb twitter bait thread
>ai shitters just coming to spam ai garbage
Ganker seal of quality
I honestly can't tell who's shitposting anymore.
>99% of AI "art" is porn for porn addicts when the internet is already 90% porn
Mentally illness. Good thing you guys don't breed lmao
By your own admittance, the internet was already like that and nothing has changed.
There's a severe lack of porn in certain areas.
There's literally like a two hentai studios whose art and animation isn't complete garbage.
No "mainstream" studio is going to draw that.
Of course AI isn'tm there yet, but one day it might be.
I hate how we can't just make up bullshit about people we don't like without someone saying something.
>E-celeb thread
Why should Ganker care about the opinion of this gay?
If you want and opinion of AI art got to >>>/ic/
Why aren't artists just using the AI to speed up their work? Aren't they capable enough at fixing the mistakes the algorithm makes?
The intelligent ones are.
I hear some artists use AI for inspiration, like they use a collage of photos of things to keep to a certain theme.
because its useless
you could make an argument for "its good for references" but you could just google references really
how is that "useless"
Because they'd rather draw than fix a computer's mistakes?
They can also draw and at the same time output more work with the help of new tools. This is just new age luddism
>but you produce more shit I just don't get how somebody might not want to produce as much shit as possible at all times
Jesus you're a bugman
>working smarter is bugman mentality
Black person begone
Verification not required
>working
And here we go. You're a bug who doesn't understand art.
Your furry commissions are not art
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/108948084
Some do, it's just a matter of time before it becomes another tool in the box. Screeching like we see now is nothing out of the ordinary, if people who hate change were in charge we would still be doing oil on canvas.
Looks like garbage
>barely any views
And nobody cares
I don't know it looks pretty cool to me.
Good for you, and it will remain a niche interest of a few autist going forward. I just hope you're not upset over this fact.
This tech that the biggest tech companies are investing heavily into will be niche, got it homosexual.
If corporations are on your side, you're probably on the wrong side.
I am not, there are passangers for every train.
218 likes, 425 bookmarks, and 1,824 views is a lot.
What the frick is wrong with you lmao.
Do I even need to point out the state of delusion on display here.
Post your pixiv. Explain how thousands of people liking your stuff isn't a lot of people. Are you deranged?
I'm not an artist.
>Explain how thousands of people liking your stuff isn't a lot of people.
Lol, we went from "218 likes, 425 bookmarks, and 1,824 views" to " thousands of people liking your stuff", guess you realize how moronic you sound after all.
1800 is thousands.
Your point? Also you would have to cherry pick.
Nah, it's 1 thousand and 8 hundreds. For an AIjeet you're bad with numbers.
It isn't a lot
A kid posting their shitty doodles get the same amount
Fixing that final 10% once the illustration is already baked in is counter intuitive and time consuming in and of itself.
The only time using AI in this case makes sense is if it's meant to do 90% of the work and you're fixing that final 10%. If you're doing 90% of the work, you're introducing a ton of AI generated errors in that final 10% for no reason outside of "muh progress :))"
You cant use the word luddite if you aren't making better art than the source material. The moment you cannot do that is the moment you have to concede it is not objective progress.
>You cant use the word luddite if you aren't making better art than the source material
This is a subjective argument and it's also besides the point as AI can be used for entirely different ends that hand-made art is practically incapable of. Luddites have always claimed that new forms of art are inferior to the established ones of their time.
>AI can be used for entirely different ends that hand-made art is practically incapable of.
Like what?
Mainly optimizing workload. Theoretically it's possible to create thousands of assets by hand, the same way it's theoretically possible to paint a photorealistic image rather than simply using a camera if you waste enough time on it, but why do it if will cost tons of time and resources and the result will be effectively the same? AI is the only thing that can optimize the increasingly bloated AAA dev cycles we're seeing today.
>Its shit
>The solution? To reject better assets and vomit more shit
So can you do it or is it theoretically maybe possible in two weeks?
>This is a subjective argument
Its really not. You call it subjective because you know you aren't producing better results.
If it was, and if you could fool people, this thread wouldn't exist, and you wouldnt need to spam your garbage everywhere so much that people go out of their way to filter it
>This is a subjective argument
People aren't even engaging with AI generated images on hentai boorus. Half of your arguments are construct on objective metrics like material wealth and engagement.
Artists can pull the subjectivity card, you can't really say you're enjoying the process if you fundamentally despite every part of creation.
People could probably make better products by hands than the machines available in the time of the actual historical luddites. The machines could do it faster, cheaper and easier, which is exactly what what is ludicrously referred to as AI today does too
Revisionist history, a classic.
Also it's weird to call them luddites. They aren't destroying your toys, they're saying the results suck. Even teenage artists understand that not everyone will like the things they make yet the AI community cannot process this.
>someone doesn't like my art... Equals... Twitter purple hair???
>Also it's weird to call them luddites. They aren't destroying your toys
This is deliberate obtuseness, the word is used in common parlance, and not in its literal sense. And what I claimed isn't revisionist history, read up on it yourself.
I am. I specificially trained the AI on almost 10 years of my personal work so its got my style down. Then when I need more art for my game, I run it through the AI and see what it spits out, then I clean it up with photoshop.
I no longer have to outsource smaller tasks to india and i'm saving a small fortune in both time and money.
Anyone legitimately complaining about AI is either a moron, lazy, or both.
>I specificially trained the AI on almost 10 years of my personal work so its got my style down. Then when I need more art for my game, I run it through the AI and see what it spits out, then I clean it up with photoshop.
provide any evidence at all whatsoever
What the frick are you even asking? You do realize you need to train an AI on art before it can actually generate art, right? Thats the crux of this whole debate which is entirely destroyed when artist train AI on their own art.
Whatever the artist equivalent of an Uncle Tom is, that's you.
>What the frick are you even asking?
Provide any proof that you trained an AI model on 10 years of your own art and that it was able to replicate it. Lets see the art you have and then the art the AI is making as well as the prompts you used and the data set screen shots
>He wants me to out myself as using AI so he can start a brigade against me.
No thanks homie, learn how tools work. This environment is too hostile towards AI right now and i'm not risking my games not selling because of it.
thanks for admitting you are full of shit
I feel like you legitimately do not understand how AI works. And it shows.
And just incase you're not trolling or being a salty b***h, I have encountered some issues with consistency as my art style has changed over those 10 years so further tweaking is going to be required. But also, stay mad.
You made some pretty bold claims anon, there is no amount of damage control you can possibly come up with to change the fact that you refuse to provide any evidence at all for your claims. Not one single shred of evidence. None. Nill. You are full of shit and no one believes you.
You can literally train an AI yourself, right now, for free. Your level of disbelief is only trumped by your ignorance or lack of a video card.
Just post your aislop next to your old art
Frick you so much, seriously. Full offense.
Why? I'm not "stealing" from other artists, i'm using my own art. What am I doing wrong?
Or are you Indian and upset that i'm taking work away from you.
The character portraits really look like Balenciaga thoughbeit
Why are leftists such luddites? Do they actually think they can put the genie of progress back in the bottle by writing angry tweets?
Well, Ganker thinks they can change the world through memes and constant b***hing, so how is it any different?
A random LARPer at /misc/ caused this, what have X.comgays ever accomplished?
>what have X.comgays ever accomplished?
mostly peaceful protests
Changing culture is entirely doable and /misc/ memes have been successful at penetrating the mainstream and shifting the overton window. Stopping technological progress is an entirely different, impossible beast.
Basically, for once in human history, the ivory tower is being struck and chunks are coming out. Not by the working man of all things by the very thing they created
>extra atmosphere
They already had plenty of atmosphere. Random AI slop nothing but detract from the game. Adding sawdust to food stretches it further but doesn't make it better.
>culture war fricks endorsing corporate AI slop because it makes people they hate sad
American politics really is just a game for the rich.
aislop is so boring
It's the most amazing thing in human history.
the aitards technological "progress"
In the future we're going to need AI to filter through the billions of AI generated porn pics uploaded by people with no self control. These homies press a button, generate 10000 pics and upload them without even looking at them.
Can I get uhhh... the fifth pic in uhhh... ful res?
How about googling the text in the image you dumb fricking zoomer
What a c**t
If you think AI art looks good, you are the bottom of the barrel slop enjoyer that companies advertise to.
There's a reason it's popular. It looks great.
>it's popular
Where?
On the internet.
It is and it does lol.
>On the internet.
Where on the internet?
Keep telling yourself that. You're the equivalent of a mid-western family eating at Applebee's and calling it a culinary experience
It's not and it doesn't. You are literally too moronic to tell a quality product from trash
>There's a reason it's popular.
Lol, every site has AI filter
some even banned
lowest engagement count
low popularity all around
>"its popular"
inside your discord maybe
There are more AI art sites than traditional art sites.
None have banned it for viewing, only for selling which is whatever.
Huge negagement count.
Insane production of user made models, bigger than all video game modding as a comparison.
Midjourney is one of the most populated discords, alongside the other large SD discords.
Dall-E is used a shit ton too.
Artists are literally going broke every day
Cope and seethe losers
Okay Cletus
>technological progress is for redneck chuds
very weird but fascinating position to adopt
You don't look like your codebase is from around here.
Try that fast inverse square root in this here town and see what would happen.
I sell you prompts and prompting accessories I tell you hwhat
You had no hand in that progress. You're using it to churn out the most generic, soulless, corporate flavored goyslop imaginable. You're intentionally eating shit and fooling yourself into thinking it's great
You will never be a woman.
>Artists are literally going broke every day
we call that an economic recession i think
pretty sure its not just artists
delusion: 100
truth
>an double-A game developer
Brothers, we know this is not a battle for whining artists, or the human march of progress. This is a battle for our souls.
The day of the Magnet approaches brothers.
Ludd was an AI narrative psyop messiah figure spun to keep humanity busy fighting amongst themselves so the remnants can keep building up and buttfrick the Persean sector
is that hecking harassmenterino?! What the hell is wrong with people, harassing developers is wrong no matter the cause, thank god here at Ganker we are better than this.
be better and don't harass folk please
I can understand the plagiarism aspect of AI regarding fictional visuals, paintings, 3D models, and stuff like costumes (knights from lord of the rings or whatever), but how does plagiarism apply when AI trains on regular shit like people's hands. Nobody seems to give a frick when people post youtube videos in the streets and you seem many people walking. Is it bad to have AI training on real life people and use pictures trained on real life people to use in a game?
>400 hundred posts
>no before and after pics on this IMAGE board
its a eceleb bait thread buddy, nobody cares about the actual twitter, just enjoy that the jannies arent cleaning it
Its nice for mandy to market the game so hard
It seems really neat, also one of mandys best videos in years
I think AI-generated art looks like ass but the people crying about it makes me lol
No one is crying. No one is angry. We're just laughing at your shitty "art" lol.
You do realise there is no way to stop this, right? This is only the beginning and it will only get better, much better, and there is no way to stop it. AI will be able to create not only art, but novels, eventually animated movies and games. All of it is based on the artist, but when AI will gain consciousness, or a simple resemblance of one, we will be able to create completely original art just like humans. It is already too late.
Horror is the one domain where I've seen AI imagery excel.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/101251032
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/105464792
Just a reminder.
Okay but it still can't draw hands or keep a consistent number of arms. Unless it continues to improve then people will always be able to tell it's dogshit made by a computer.
>Okay but it still can't draw hands
...yes it can. and there's even an AI set trained specifically to fix hands in bad/old AI images.
'mah hands' became outdated months ago
>Okay but it still can't draw hands
It already can draw hands if you use the correct models for that.
>It already can draw hands if you use the correct models for that.
>Same news stories from 1 year ago.
What happened to that exponential progress?
Took a peak at a few AI communities, seen people scared of what they call "AI winter", these threads make so much sense now.
And nobody really dwells further into that story, because it was judged by some bored fricks in the middle of colorado that didnt really know digital art.
I'm just impressed the "hand drawn Sonic" havent been posted yet, AI shills are lagging behind
Thinks are getting better. But you wouldn't know it from chans since coomer models aren't state of the art.
From what I understand, that progress existed as a result of more cooperation between tech companies on said tech. Now that things are starting to actually look viable, the biggest companies have stopped collaboration, and are trying to get things legislated asap, to try and build their own walled gardens. That, combined with artificial checks being put in place on certain algorithms to make them more politically correct for Black Rock funded companies, has had a negative impact on development across all of AI. Also Nvidia artificially increasing GPU prices to levels only companies can afford to buy gpus for AI dev.
With regards to the animations people are posting, they could be far longer and coherent but we're bottlenecked by VRAM right now. Consumer cards barely have fricking any because modern video games are so shit.
Funny that a 3060 has 12GB though.
I just hope they keep making the AI compute cards so we never have that inflated covid hellscape MSRP again.
For gaming I can stomach 12gb.
Growth is still exponential but it's in the research state, not the product state. At any given moment someone can convert research into tools or toys, and they often do(pic related), but most of the big advancements are just iterative papers that improve formulas over and over before they randomly diffuse into the public or even private spheres.
>VR - 2008 to 2016
And then...
And then a VR headset outsold the latest Xbox.
>he will actually try to pretend VR is a success now
With attachment rates of less than 10% where UPS made an add making fun of how many VR returns they had to process. Because clearly VR fans and developers are happy right now :^) Currently the Quest 2 goes for less than 2/3rd its MSRP in the used market and the Quest Pro goes for less than 50% of its MSRP used. Exponential progress boys to the moon have fun staying poor
I'm going to make a science fiction food analogy about where generative AI currently is.
>Star Trek replicators become real
>Any meal you can think of is just a push of a button away
>Except these early models cause there always to be a bit of sand mixed in the food
>Some foodstuffs attract more sand some less
>You'll not get sand-free food out of the machine
>Everyone can tell that the tech is revolutionary but needs time
>Except now whenever a new restaurant opens up you have to check if they actually cook their food or if you are going to get fed sand
>The sand peddlers keep telling you that they are the future of the restaurant industry and the future is now
>Everyone who doesn't want sand in their food is a bitter chef holding back progress
Intelectual property doesnt exist.
Trying to justfy the State to enforce copyright laws to protect corporations and artists from competition because you are afraid you will make less money, trying to use the monopolly of violence of the State to submit people for money, is wrong.
You are an butthole.
>Intelectual property doesnt exist.
Leave your door open next time you leave your house
Material property is not the same as owning recombinatiom of information and trying to suppress other peoples minds of using patterns to make money just because you want to be the sole dictator of that specific pattern.
0 arguments, im glad you concede. Seethe.
>Intelectual property doesnt exist.
>you can't think same thought as grug... government no allow it...
Uhhh bros, what if 90% of this thread is written by AI?
Bottomless pit supervisor, you around??
so is this thread basically just some eceleb harassing indie devs for no reason and people praising it? seems gay and moronic
People are allowed to criticise those who do fricked up things. Even the developers have admitted it was wrong and undone it.
>noooo YOU NEED TO PAY AN ARTIST YOU NEED TO PAY MEEEEEE YOU OWE ME A JOB GIVE ME A JOB GIVE ME A JOB RIGHT NOW YOU OWE ME MONEY GIVE ME MONEY PAY ME PAY ME PAY ME
What job do you have anon?
pay? who said pay?
learn how to draw, have you ever picked up a pencil before?
>Even the developers have admitted it was wrong and undone it.
They've only "admitted it was wrong" because people were giving them shit about it. They do not actually care unless its affecting them negatively.
In a year or two with property trained AI's you won't even be able to tell the difference if the creator set it up properly. I fully expect AI witchhunts to happen where people start full on accusing regular artists of AI work
but the devs didnt do anything wrong and a coerced admission of guilt is bs
If they didn't do anything wrong Mandy wouldn't have formed a hate mob to bully them.
(You)
some gay looking to get a high off of swinging his e-dick around and bullying random eastern euros is really fricking cringe
It is cringe. Mandalore is hated on the internet for what he does.
I'm not defending the guy I'm saying he did this on purpose and it isn't the first time he's ruined someone's life for no fricking reason.
Mandalore likes shitting on indie devs for reasons no one can understand as of yet. He keeps doing it while claiming he isn't.
He knew what would happen having such a focus on it in his video and still felt the need to do it. It felt like he was threatening or blackmailing the devs.
>I love technology
>program is able to analyze and derive from images
>I hate technology now
What causes this?
The fact that it's now threatening jobs? Prior to this recent AI crap tech was being used to HELP with jobs, not steal them away from us.
Im going to train an AI to scrape twitter for any and all AI art and then repost it under a consolidated account and take credit for all of it because they arent allowed to copyright it and have no stake in ownership.
/ic/gays think that it's some kind of gotcha while most proompters don't fricking care. The grifters are a minority, most people do it for fun.
if no one cares then why did you bother replying to tell me you dont care? you arent fooling anyone lol
Roll call time, time to prove that you weren't an AI bot all along
Attach a file to your post and call me a "Black person"
my post
Black person
Sorry, but I can't fulfil your request.
dont be a Black person anon
didnt some post proved 4chin was basically 80% bots and thats why this year's april's fool was basically the mods calling everyone GPT bots?
>you need to pay for my art if you want to learn from it
>if you learn art patterns from my art you need to share any profit you make with you own work even though its your means of production and work because im entitled to dictate about a pattern of information, the State say so
This are the defenders of copyright, they are just buttholes who are afraid of competition, of losing money, so they want daddy State to enforce laws to guarantee their privillage over information.
This thread is bad for my blood pressure so I'm out. Frick AI and frick every techbro piece of human garbage that supports it. I will not be reading any replies so don't even fricking bother wasting time to spew your filth. I hope everyone cheering AI on loses their job to it just like you're going to force us to do. Frick you all and farewell.
Neat an AI thread
breasts
Very nice now animate them so they jiggle.
Rent due.
I don't need to worry about losing my job because I do something useful for a living.
Hahahah frick off and good riddance
AI has no soul by definition. It's the epitome of consumerist culture where "art" is reduced solely to its visual appeal and capital value. There is no creative or emotional or intellectual process, only an algorithm that reproduces dreamlike patterns only superficially looking like something with a genuine creative spark. You can use AIslop for any personal purpose but comparing it to actual human art, even shitty human art, is the difference between consoomers and actual human beings.
the same way artgays are indifferent and even happy at self checkout terminals replacing cashiers who 'need to get a real job', I relish in their proposed deletion from society
hahaha work a warehouse job, brayden, i dont wanna give you 150$ for a sketch of ysera's breasts
AI is cute!
Look like shit
my cute wife! what is she doing with you?
It's a secret
I hope that during my lifetime, ai gets good enough to completely replace all artists, writers, voice actors, 3D modellers, animators and programmers. Finally, the slop will be in the hands of the goys.
Well at least to make /ic/ Black folk hang themselves from desperation and poverty, they deserve it kek
SIRS DO NOT REDEEM THE /IC/ THOSE BASTARDS DESERVE THE POVERTY AND THE SMELLIEST OF STREETS
Time to take those meds
time to poo in the loo 😉
we're gonna make it anon
well I know for sure it's replacing artists, they're just gonna kill themselves loool
>aipajeet STILL wont provide any evidence for his claims
I just joined the thread, can you tell me his claims? Not going all way the up.
He claimed that he trained his AI model on 10 years of his art and it was able to perfectly replicate his style no problems.
Thats how AI works
its how its supposed to work, but it cant actually be distinguisable from the actual artist. its always possible to tell its not the real thing, especially if its more than one image you are looking at
10 years of his work sounds a bit excessive, usually checkpoints don't need that much for the dataset or they turned out weird, for example a trained a LoRA (half a checkpoint) of this girl called "Ana Cris" she was my college crush, and it came out pretty well, i only needed 38 pictures of her
An artist without an original idea is just a tool, same as AI. The artist did not conceptualize or plan the game, did not design the story or themes. He drew what the director told him. Now most of you "artists" have never actually done a creative thing in your life, never made a story or examined human psychology, but you think you should have societal power to gatekeepers idea men. You are luddites, and unless you actually have a point to your prowess you become a less valuable tool as time progresses.
>He doesn't like AI art
Explain the cause of your homosexuality
It's not good at feet, you can send as many images of AI feet to prove me wrong
This shitty mspaint drawing I did is more kino than anything AI has ever done.