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i've actually thought about trying to use some ai art, mostly for visualizing things like locations that it would be hard to find art to represent otherwise. is this a bad idea? is it worth bothering with?
tbf it's a tool
I just get tired of the obvious uncanny valley myself
Eww
If you have something good like midjourney and its capturing the style well then go for it. You might want to try one of those ones that expands on an uploaded image so you can sketch out the vague idea then let the bot colour between the lines
I've used it in some of my games, it can be useful. Keep in mind if the location is so unusual you can't find good art for it you might struggle to generate good art for it too. AI works best on things that occurred often in the training data like characters or generic landscapes.
You're not going to get satisfying answer from anyone else, there are multiple free AI image generators, try a few and make up your own opinion
>is this a bad idea? is it worth bothering with
Absolutely go for it.
The only people who are anti AI nowadays are seething failed artists mad they can't charge $250 for some shitscribbles any more.
still mad the art teacher didn't like your 'how to draw anime' masterpiece?
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He doesn't seem upset in the least.
You, on the other hand...
I for one am upset by AI art gays trying to put shit in my hentai threads and then b***hing up a storm when they're asked to not spam up the place with low quality images.
R34 is clogged with this shit.
it's the fricking worst.
if 90% of twitter or instagram commission art wasnt replacable AI would pose no threat to any of those "artists"
Honestly this.
Starving artists deserve to starve. It's thier choice, they could always learn to code.
>they could always learn to code
Coders are the one of those in line to get replaced by AI next (already happening at the larger institutions that have made their own code helpers).
They need to learn how to use discrete logic, not code.
>it's only artists who dislike AI art
no, the vast majority of it is staggeringly ugly.
So is most of the slop shit out by human "artists". The AI just does it faster and cheaper.
Which turns it from low quality art to mass spammed low quality art.
This is mediocre at best.
get fricked.
It's OK, you can admit you're a tastelet
Hey I made made that one lol, didn't expect anyone to have it saved.
>uh....I only look at the shit though
ya for another few months dumbfrick
TO BE HONEST I am an artist who uses AI art on my process to improve my work. Since I started my production increased a lot - I use it for background art (in the case of Midjourney) that I never bothered with drawing to begin with, and to see some anatomy errors (in the case of Stabble diffusion) that I redraw - my work have never been so good, and reception is also very good. Most people complimenting it don't even know I use AI to aid.
The only thing I seethe is the fact that I have to pay a 10$ or 20$ subscription to Midjourney. Wish that hit was free.
My gripe with it is similar to early CGI over stopmotion or tweening/flash for traditional animation.
I can appreciate the tool and how much it will help the process, but it also makes me sad knowing that the most likely path from now is for AI to overtake the industry and, jsut like how pure traditional aniamtion became the exception and not the rule, so will be art.
Or maybe it will plateau a bit like CGI due corporate greediness and AI will not get to be as good as it could because companies focus on cutting costs rather than investing in the tech. Many movies from 2000's have better CGI than modern day AAA productions because the animators and VFX teams are not paid or given enough time.
I use AI for backgrounds like
says, but no matter how good it gets at characters, those are drawn by me, so they become our characters, of our campaing at our table, ugly as it may be.
I think you’re selling yourself short on your art there. So far I have not seen a single piece of AI character art with convincing dynamism; they’re all static shots of characters in very safe, very plain poses. AI can’t do anything with abundant motion unless you train it off a bunch of pictures with essentially the exact same action, like the fricking Akira bike slide that every cartoon animator just loves to reference because “nerd culture.”
I don't think my art is bad, but it has clear flaws and I know my weaknes. If anything I feel a strange connection to AI: I feel both of us manage to capture the "feel" or idea I wanna convey with something, but frick up on the details.
I do thing there's a place for AI, but expecting it to do anything beyond serviceable without considerable human input is naive.
Ty here u go. Pic related was a session they were competing in a pirate battle royale and had to decide which rival crew to go after.
As
said, you're measuring it over technique related to how realistic it looks. Photography pulled that off years ago, and even before through hyperrealistic painting. That's why art history was so "weird" in the last centuries. Once we hit an almost 1:1 recreation of reality, we sat there wondering what to do now. Then one guy said "What if we don't try to paint reality as it is and isntead use it as a base/reference and go crazy with colors, designs, and stuff?" and you know the rest. You said "this pic is better than yours" but I ask you: based on what? My pic are just doodles I made while brainstorming a PC. What do your pic accomplish that mine fails at, related to the purpose of the pictures?
AI promptslopper here. You have a very cute art style. Please post more so we can harvest it for our promptslop.
Imagine believing this is better than
or the pic here.
AI produces technically and objectively higher quality art.
>AI produces technically and objectively higher quality art.
In the way like photograph is technically and objectively higher quality than an oil painting.
It's better in some ways, to get something like that elf with a specific hairstyle dual-wielding sickles would be a pain in the ass using AI, but an artist can doodle it pretty easily, plus it is pretty cute regardless.
>feet are just straight up switched
>femur is the same size as the rest of the leg
>0 style
>Shadows are all wrong
Yeah, technically and objectively you're a moron with no taste
This
is miles better than AI slop because it's oozing with action and flow, something AI just can't compete because you cannot teach a machine to do gesture
>you cannot teach a machine to do gesture
>and you'll never be able to
Tell me how you'd prompt gesture
Honestly, I'd argue 99% of ai shitters don't even know what gesture is, or why it's important for illustration
What do you mean? Just describe the action and pose in words, couldn't be simpler really.
Now this is what I call bait post, simple and to the point.
I'm being serious though, why can't you describe it with natural language? For example picrel is generated with "standing triumphantly" and it reflects that pretty well imo.
holy shit the proportions lololol
I did prompt for a very big hat and hands I think it adds a certain jen se quoi lol
>Tell me how you'd prompt gesture
I would tell the AI "Make it look like he's in the middle of the gesture", and since this is a hypothetical future AI that's more advanced than the current generation, it would succeed.
If it's a good AI, you'd ask it to draw anything the same way you would a human, and it would work.
Hey elfposter, can you finally do the dark elf woth womb tatoo, pink metal nose ring and snakebites, pink latex sexy schoolgirl uniform and orgazmorator from Orgazmo?
What's going on with her knees?
Why don't any of those guns have grips.
AI is not very good at guns.
>AI is not very good at guns.
Someone's been training AIs using 3D renders. It's a crapshoot but sometimes it can generate a nearly perfect rendition of a specific model if you give it enough prompts for that specific model.
Mommy
I have nothing to contribute to this thread but I absolutely love your style.
It's fine. Now all of those self-righteous artists can just learn to code.
Realistically, we're in teh golden age of AI art right now. Soon models will start recycling AI art back into the model which will result in weird artifacts and system collapse of the AI.
Use it while you can, as soon as the training sets are over about 30% AI art, it won't work anymore.
Brother the training dataset is curated, it's not just random stuff.
>Soon models will start recycling AI art back into the model which will result in weird artifacts and system collapse of the AI.
That's not how it works. Why do you feel so confident posting about something you don't understand?
ChatGPT is already having this problem because they aren’t curating the datasets to remove other ChatGPT-generated content.
>Use it while you can, as soon as the training sets are over about 30% AI art, it won't work anymore.
This is cope.
Why do you think it won't work?
/thread/
The only people who seethe are failed souless Twitter artists. AI would never be able to replace a real artist just like photography wasn't able to replace Picasso's paintings.
I can't do art and I don't like the low-effort AIslop like
that inevitably gets spammed by morons who think their generic low-effort AIslop is special and should be posted everywhere.
don't
It's fine. People in my group have been using AI art for a while, and it's been fine. AI is a tool, and it's an alright tool for helping visualize game-related things.
Nah, if you go that route just have the twist be that AI's taken over the world but still hasn't quite figured out this whole picture thing and players are un AI-created Matrix.
Based. What's the upper limit of cells a player can have and still be allowed at your table?
Most AI is quite good at landscapes, so go for it if you ask me.
What did you use for this? Midjourney?
No, that's stable diffusion.
AI is great for locations
I use them all the time, more than I do for characters
It's fine for your personal games, they'll look like shit sometimes but if you make it clear to your friends "it's just to help give you an idea of what's happening" it's not the worst thing you can do
It does landscapes fine. And as long as you aren't being a total dipshit about how you made it because you typed in the prompt or something, it's just a tool.
To just give off a general idea of something yes AI is great This is one of the areas where I actively encourage it
its fine if you know how to clean it up afterwards which you can just use the ai for. if you see an issue in the art just draw the outline of what you want the ai to fix and run it back through.
Good, he has more time for prepping things that actually matter now. You only look at the image for a second and then never again imagining the rest.
Looks fine for Warhammer.
I'd love to see a setting that's made up purely of AI generated abominations. The most fricked up, the better. You can explain it as the Godhead of the setting being unable to picture things clearly in its mind.
okay this would actually be fun.
>when you finally roll the insight check and notice that your guide has an irregular number of fingers
I respect people using current day AI's quirks to their advantage; mainly for horror. This uncanny valley type shit is perfect for horror.
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>GM uses visual props (or auditory for that matter)
Sign of a shit gm.
This makes little sense.
Explain.
A good GM doesn't need training wheels like pictures or music. He can immerse players in the world by his words alone.
that bait has some dust on it
You can kvetch but it's a plain fact.
Ok boomer.
You don't play games.
I do, only with good GMs and being one myself. Haven't used training wheels for over a decade.
You don't play games.
You haven't used training wheels because you've never run or played in a game.
>please argue with me, I need social interaction
ok anon. But can we choose a less obvious bait to off of?
No he can't.
i only use smells and pheromones, and my campaign has been going strong for 3 million years
some people have to use Virtual Tabletops that use icons.
I love using Ai to make monsters look extra monstrous. Like for my 'Goblins'.
Reminder that there are now AI created flavors.
AI created gf when?
IBM Chef Watson seems more impressive unless I missed something. So does AlphaFold et al.
I don't understand how you guys use so much art during your games.
I've seen GMs try to use AI art to give every jackoff a portrait when like, a faceless NPC token would work just as well and be way less work.
>I've seen GMs try to use AI art to give every jackoff a portrait when like, a faceless NPC token would work just as well and be way less work.
I GM for my personal pleasure so even if the playpigs don't care that Timmy who appears for 1 scene has a unique portrait or not I do.
Though the time saved on finding art is again wasted on picking which portrait looks best.
>I GM for my personal pleasure so even if the playpigs don't care that Timmy who appears for 1 scene has a unique portrait or not I do.
Alright that's fair, I do dumb bullshit like that too, just not for art.
They don't play games.
i probably wouldn't use any if I wasn't running my game online, i miss rolling real dicr 🙁
I have wondered where the artist-hating AI shitters have gone since the janny started nuking their shitty threads and baits
Guess they are back.
Normal people have a low opinion of shitty artists. Now there's an alternative.
There are people who enjoy art because it is beautiful, unique, and illuminates aspects of the human existence that had not previously been considered.
There are also people who enjoy art for the same reason a rat in a cage keeps hitting the dopamine button.
For the latter, AI is fine. Endless effluvia churned out by machine ad nauseam. For the former, art will become (even more of a) shibboleth, used to communicate class and standing, like cuisine or fashion is now.
you're correct but your word choice makes you sound like you're huffing your own farts out of a wine glass, anon.
"""Real""" art is just a means for rich people to print large denomination bills resistant to inflation. The lesser artists are just the shit in which to grow fresh stock.
A banana taped to a wall, a disconnected urinal, black and white photographs with the eyes turned sideways are all "art". "Art" is a worthless name now and it's the fault of artists.
At the end of the day, most DMs aren't artists, using AI images for personal stuff like this is fine as long as it doesn't bother anyone in the table.
I'd just use it for landscapes, but even then I can just paint my own and use it on my portfolio anyway. And if I wasn't an artist, I'd just grab stuff from artists I like, which is what I encourage my players to do
>Entire thread is about EVERYTHING but modern art
>B--B-B-B-BUT THE BANANA!! ON THE WALL!!
Literally nobody here is talking about modern art when they're talking about art, we're talking about comics, character design, illustration, editorial, apparel design, mascots for businesses, animation, and so on.
We are talking about the Alphonse Muchas at the same time we're talking about the Tradd Moores and that kid doing graffitti in the corner. And yeah, Modern art is shit, but it's still art, because it's made by humans. The scribbles of my nephews on the fridge are art, the shit you can spew out by having a computer frankenstein a bunch of stolen images isn't.
Even Photobashing is more of an art form than AI images will ever be.
The whole "art as a term is worthless now" is such a moronic take. It's the same as going "but BACK IN MY DAY!!!" and it will forever be, it's the same discourse spewed by people who don't really get that you don't need to like something for it to be art, just like you don't need to cut a tree for it to fall in a forest. There'll always be hacks in the industry, just like there'll always be hacks in ANY industry, and honestly, using AI in your workflow just shows me you lack the creativity and technique needed to design anything. I'd only excuse concept artists doing it because of the absurd turnaround times they have to deliver stuff, and even then I'd only expect them to use it like they use photobashing.
>A banana taped to a wall
The guy who made it is a joker, but he has real skill too.
I didn't know we were shooting for biggest pseud on the planet award in this thread.
I’ve spent hours trying to prompt, but I can’t get any AI tool to produce artwork of the races in my setting, much less matching the clothing designs of the various regions. I honestly can’t tell if I’m just shit at talking to machines or if my stuff isn’t generic enough to be AIed.
i used old dalle ai art for when my players entered a cursed mirror dimension to create horrible monstrosities
worked pretty well
Use painterly styles to lessen the uncanny valley effect.
It took me so long to get midjourney to give him a decent looking eyepatch.
I use it for character art.
Drew Struzan is a good one to try out in Midjourney
The only piece of art I ever used for my campaign was a horny picture of a race that had zero horny art that a fa/tg/uy made for me in the drawthread.
>the dm starts slowly replacing the npcs with bodysnatches/reptilians/whatever.
>the only clue is the slightly off AI art and little odd story hooks.
It sounds like you're experiencing a mix of emotions about your Dungeon Master (DM) incorporating AI-generated art into your tabletop role-playing game (TTRPG) sessions. This can be an interesting and innovative addition to the game, but it's understandable that it might evoke various feelings. Here are some possible reactions and considerations:
Excitement: AI-generated art can bring a new level of immersion to your TTRPG sessions. The visual element can help you and your fellow players better envision the world, characters, and scenes, making the game more engaging.
Curiosity: You might be intrigued by the use of AI in this context and wonder how it will affect the game's storytelling and aesthetics. It could lead to unique and unexpected outcomes.
Concern: If the AI-generated art doesn't match your personal preferences or the game's established style, it could be a source of concern. You may worry that it could disrupt the immersion or authenticity of the game world.
Nostalgia: If you're used to traditional hand-drawn or crafted art in TTRPGs, you might feel nostalgic for that old-school approach and miss the personal touch that comes with it.
Adaptation: It's possible that you'll adapt and come to appreciate the AI-generated art as an integral part of the game. Over time, it might grow on you and enhance your overall experience.
Communication: Talk to your DM and fellow players about your thoughts and feelings regarding the use of AI art. They may have valid reasons for incorporating it and can address any concerns you have.
Experimentation: Remember that TTRPGs are all about creativity and trying new things. The use of AI-generated art could be an experiment to see how it enhances the game. Your feedback could help refine its integration.
Ultimately, the impact of AI-generated art in your TTRPG sessions will depend on how well it aligns with your group's preferences and the storytelling goals of the campaign. It's an exciting opportunity to explore new possibilities in tabletop gaming, so approach it with an open mind and be willing to give it a chance before forming a final opinion.
I mostly just use it for making creature/npc tokens since by the time they're downscaled for the token proper the details being a little fricked up hardly matters.
>pic related
Is for the big bad of the campaign and I think it looks pretty damn slick.
I will say I like finding artists when I can, but it's such a pain in the ass trawling through various websites that fit precisely what I'm looking for, so AI art usually ends up being what I default to since I have 0 artistic ability (I have this same issue with battlemaps, but AI can't do those well so I usually just find something close enough and say frick it unless it's really important in which case I make my own map). I will still take the time to draw a pic in mspaint for creatures/monsters that are particularly novel or where I'm being very particular about the details, but it's rare.
That being said, and I've definitely asked this in other threads before, does ANYONE know of a good resource/repository of art that's well tagged that's good for fantasy characters/monsters?
Also adding pic related because no BBEG is truly complete with a second phase transformation