The player base dont force you to do shit m8. Thats the devs. People really seem to forget this a main entry so the story is the main part and the mmo comes second.
>But if you skip custscenes and then say the story is shit then we have a problem.
Let's be real, you'd sperg out over someone calling the story shit even if they watched every cutscene twice.
???
I take the piss out of my sister because she skipped the entire story, but like, that's not the end of the world. It's like getting mad because people on here call you a homosexual because you're bad at a game.
One time I said in novice network that I skip all the cutscenes and dozens of people whispered me angry shit over the following several days. This community gets extremely upset if you play the game in a way that doesn't follow their internal script.
>if i don't like it, it didn't happen
classic ffxiv player.
>wowbuck
as easily as we can spot a xivtroon
nah, even mmos that have been deeply watered down and streamlined like WoW still have more multiplayer and rpg elements in them than FFXIV does.
for example, questing with friends in WoW actually provides an advantage in gameplay. in FFXIV you'll just end up watching cutscenes in silence together.
Are you illiterate? Try reading my post again.
>kills the WoWbuck with 100% consistency
2 years ago
Anonymous
>34K
UMMMMMMM OHHHH NO NO NO NO HEE HEE HOO HOO
2 years ago
Anonymous
>4.8 miillion people subscribe to WoW
So it's objectively more than FFXIV, which has 1.7m according to the census. Good to know.
2 years ago
Anonymous
XIV has 27 million subs. Half of those WoW subs are inactive Chinese accounts with 1 hour of game time. Cope, baby.
>source? i made it up
>NOOOO ITS NOT REAL ITS NOT REAL
2 years ago
Anonymous
>XIV has 27 million subs
That's not true, obviously. At best it has 27 registered players, including all bots, all free trials, and every single person who has an account without a sub.
>27 registered players
27 million registered players*
2 years ago
Anonymous
>his own source says it has 23 million more than the 1 million he was claiming a second ago
Is this the power of WoWbucks? Do you feel better after defending your troony Blizzard game?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>his own source says it has 23 million more than the 1 million he was claiming a second ago
Are you illiterate by any change? The link claims there are 24 million registered users, not subs. The 1.7m figure comes from the luckylbancho census: https://ffxivcensus.com/
2 years ago
Anonymous
>luckylbancho
Frick off, Barry. Learn English next time
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not often people are stupid enough that I have to post this ancient meme image, but I suppose there's a time for everything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You've never actually seen Barry if you think he'd accept a Luckybancho census as data, let alone post one. Get out.
>can’t cope with being called out
2 years ago
Anonymous
>i have no idea how barry works or talks or what he obsesses over but i need to fit in by naming a shitposter
2 years ago
Anonymous
You've never actually seen Barry if you think he'd accept a Luckybancho census as data, let alone post one. Get out.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>make shit up
its the only thing you can do xivtroon
2 years ago
Anonymous
>XIV has 27 million subs
That's not how it works, by the way. The 27m figure is total number of registered players. WoW had 100m of those in 2014 lmao.
>WoWbucks already seething at the facts
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no argument
i accept your concession xivtroon
2 years ago
Anonymous
I got your concession when you gays defended gay frogs in your troony game. Now cope, seethe, and dilate
2 years ago
Anonymous
>defended gay frogs in your troony game
but enough about ffxiv
2 years ago
Anonymous
Point to where XIV has troony devs, troony players, troony NPCs, gay frogs, and gay dragons
2 years ago
Anonymous
>troony players
anon I...
2 years ago
Anonymous
not my fault you dont play your own game
Played WoW for 2 years and met 6 trannies
Played XIV for 5 years, met 0 trannies so far
Now where’s the gay frogs and troony devs in XIV. I’ll wait
Just accept, WoW is made by trannies, for trannies
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Played XIV for 5 years, met 0 trannies so far
You can open the PF on any NA or EU datacenter and see dozens of LGBTQ night club ads. Why do FFXIV players deny this with such regularity?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>avoids the question again
lol just don’t join those groups. Simple as frick, never had to interact with them
WoW made a troony npc the God of the afterlife
2 years ago
Anonymous
>avoids the question
Your post doesn't contain a question. How did you not know that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>now where’s the gay frogs and troony devs in XIV?
Delusion, very in line with the average WoW player
2 years ago
Anonymous
Here, I screenshotted your post for you again, since you somehow typed it without knowing what it said.
As you can see, there aren't any questions written in it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>cries about being called out for a “minor typo” earlier >uses same thing to avoid the question because he has no argument
I accept your concession, have a nice day
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn't avoid a question, you just didn't write a question. Feel free to write a question if you'd like me to answer one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alright. Tell me, where the gay frogs and troony devs are in XIV?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't know. I haven't claimed that the game has anything like that. Are you sure you don't have me confused with a different anon?
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you admit that WoW is the troony game. Thank you for conceding, have a good day 🙂
2 years ago
Anonymous
I see, like, one on a given night. Ganker tells me it's dozens. Something doesn't add up here. >Why do blah blah blah wah wah wah?
Go back.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you can go to any pf party or df duty and meet one right now
keep lying more and cope xivtroon
2 years ago
Anonymous
>join WoW party with a troony >halfway through they start talking about how their HRT is going and how accepting this game is for people like them >join XIV group, never hear troony talk once
Seethe with the facts, WoW is the defacto troony game and this cannot be refuted
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, GW2 end of dragons is worse than WoW.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>join XIV group, never hear troony talk once
not my fault you dont play your own game
all the trannies are playing xiv, have you missed the /vg/ threads? or the discord communities?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>join troony communities outside of the game >get mad when you see trannies >meanwhile in WoW you are forced to interact with troony NPCs who talk about how good and brave they are and then become the god of the afterlife
2 years ago
Anonymous
>dont interact with the community or any players >play single player game >"where are the players? where are the trannies? where is everyone?"
yea that sounds right about xiv
2 years ago
Anonymous
>not joining troony discords looking for reasons to be mad is avoiding the player base >delusions I made up in my head is my argument
Ah, typical WoWbaby, don’t forget your HRT bottle and your Pelagos bumper sticker before you leave
2 years ago
Anonymous
>delusions I made up in my head is my argument
your whole argument is made of delusions xivtroon
2 years ago
Anonymous
>everything you say is wrong because it makes me feel sad about my troony game with troony gods
Meds and HRT, now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>make up shit >lie about everything >LOL U MAD
Meds now
2 years ago
Anonymous
not my fault you dont play your own game
2 years ago
Anonymous
>XIV has 27 million subs
That's not how it works, by the way. The 27m figure is total number of registered players. WoW had 100m of those in 2014 lmao.
What's wrong is that you can get a much better experience elsewhere for much less. WoW asked for this sub but they originally made it so endgame was another much more complex layer of progression in many other ways, therefore the sub to play was justified. FFXIV is basically not an RPG. There's not really a reason to keep playing or anything in the game that justifies its price tag.
The situation is that unless its a single player game, you won't get a game as polished and complete as 14 for that money.
You can say some gacha F2P bullshit is better but lets be real, if you unironically enjoy those games as solely a f2p player then your taste is already trash and those games eventually asks for too much of your time of simply more money.
And then the game got a cash shop, you have to pay to change the appearance of your character, there's bi-yearly fully priced expansions, you have to pay extra per MONTH for storage space. All this while the game gets less and less content then ever and lets exploits and shit be in the game for months and months without updating it because it's not a problem in JP
>$15
it's only $12.99 though. the $15 only lets you have 40 characters as opposed to 8, which makes absolutely 0 sense in a game where there's nothing but hindrance with no gain to have more than 1 character
even if you buy in bulk the lowest you can go is $12.99, so no one should be using standard as opposed to the entry sub
>that'd be 15$ a month for playing what is essentially a single player jRPG with some tacked on unneeded MMO shit
this
what exactly are you paying for with the monthly sub?
because i fricking doubt all that shit requires so much money
servers nowadays are as cheap as it gets an F2P games handle way more players without the need for so many Data Centers and worlds or other garbage and without P2W shit, XIV already has a cash shop so having both it and sub fee is unacceptable
90% of shit you will be doing in this game is single player, if you removed all MMO aspect it would be a fine jRPG still
you're paying the $13 for the promise that they'll keep adding content, not to socialize. They could take the "online" part of the game's title out and it'd be fine.
XIV has some of the most fun co-op PvE content among theme parks. There is only a few high end duties I would say are not designed to be fun, namely DSR.
I love putting a traffic cone triangle on my head as a tank and getting a whole party of sprouts through Endsinger.
>mfw the ones that die from the tankbuster
2 years ago
Anonymous
I love getting Endsinger in trial roulette. While the fight is easy, the presentation is top notch and I enjoy dodging the planet mechanic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
For me it's the theme.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's ok but it wasn't able to top the king.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not Royal Menagerie if 6 people don't get punted into the void by the first Tidal Wave.
2 years ago
Anonymous
To this day I still think Shinryu is the magnum opus of this game's casual fight design.
Everything is just executed so perfectly - the pacing is superb with a fairly easy first phase that teaches you some of the mechanics in a safe environment, leading into a non-braindead add phase that then gets into the final phase with the bombastic music and all the mechanics you learned in phase 1 on a larger but more dangerous arena.
The final phase itself is literally perfect, the gimmick that almost every mechanic revolves around people spreading out in a fight where the arena size dwindles over time is great, not to mention the way Shinryu zips around makes it feel way more dynamic than if he just stayed in one spot the entire time like most other giant bosses.
It's also constantly throwing new shit at you one after the other with no breaks, the moment one mechanic resolves you either have another mechanic right after, a tank buster or the tail to deal with. I can think of few non-EX or savage fights that felt as good to play as Shinryu, which sucks because I think the extreme version has almost none of this stuff present, they completely neutered everything that made normal mode so satisfying.
Pandemonium would be 100x more engaging of bosses still had Eden sized hitboxes. Listening to crying meleegays was a mistake in 6.0 when they made bosses huge and was a mistake in 6.08 and 6.1 when they overtuned every melee job.
Would be 100x better if they design the fricking castlevania tier 1 like alexander again and stop using the same dancing stack spreads and groups in all bosses
>namely DSR >First Thordan phase has the boss untargetable for half of it >This is the phase you have to see every pull since it's the first one
They had the pacing right with TEA, idk why they fricked it up so badly by leading one of these moronic start-stop phases.
As compared to a bad RPG with a chat built in like other MMOs. World PvP is fricking dead and you know it. World content is dead. It has been a themepark genre for more than a decade, wake up.
nah, even mmos that have been deeply watered down and streamlined like WoW still have more multiplayer and rpg elements in them than FFXIV does.
for example, questing with friends in WoW actually provides an advantage in gameplay. in FFXIV you'll just end up watching cutscenes in silence together.
is this a joke? mmos have the worst pve in existence
I could maybe understand if you said pvp but even then that's still wrong when there's a dozen other genres that do it better
>is this a joke?
No, it's just the objective reality of the situation. >mmos have the worst pve in existence
No, they have the best large scale PVE in gaming, by far. If you put an mmo boss in Dark Souls the players would sperg out that you have to do literally anything other than pressing roll and r1.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't know why you brought up dark souls but you've either never played any actual games or are moronic, though it's likely both.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've played more games than you, and MMOs objectively offer the best large scale PVE in video games. You haven't provided any counterexamples yet, because you can't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Monster hunter, now stop embarassing yourself. This is your last (You) from me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Monster Hunter is not large scale. Even World maps aren't really that big.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Kulve Taroth and Safi'jiiva are the only "large scale PvE" Monster Hunter has
2 years ago
Anonymous
it's not even large scale
it's regular 4 player hunt
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Monster hunter,
Monster Hunter isn't large scale PVE, so you're already wrong. Moreover, the mechanics are enormously easier than mmo boss mechanics, and the gameplay is enormously easier than mmo classes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Behemoth and Extremoth were a nice reality check for the Dark Souls castaways that came to Monster Hunter because it was "so hardcore omg"
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the mechanics are enormously easier than mmo boss mechanics, and the gameplay is enormously easier than mmo classes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the mechanics are enormously easier than mmo boss mechanics, and the gameplay is enormously easier than mmo classes.
That's correct, I'm glad you've conceded.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Even if we somehow pretended that XIV's million button jobs are the standard for MMO class design, at the end of the day a combat system where the actual combat never impacts you or the enemy's state beyond dead or not dead can never have as much depth or challenge as one that does. At the end of the day once you do a fight in XIV once you've seen everything it has to offer, there's no unpredictability, no enemies that adapt to your tactics or try to dodge out of the way, nothing.
Behemoth and Extremoth were a nice reality check for the Dark Souls castaways that came to Monster Hunter because it was "so hardcore omg"
brings up Monster Hunter's Behemoth fight which should be the perfect showcase of how a braindead fight in XIV becomes instantly more challenging the moment the entities in the world stop being ghosts that just phase through each other and actually react to the environment and what's going on around them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>at the end of the day a combat system where the actual combat never impacts you or the enemy's state beyond dead or not dead can never have as much depth or challenge as one that does
You're right, thankfully this doesn't apply to MMOs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What the frick are you talking about? Of course it applies to MMOs.
You do a savage fight in XIV and it always goes the same way. Shiva doesn't fricking react to getting hit in the face with an axe and suddenly change her behaviour to punish it, nor does she ever try to dodge. She'll just always do the same rotation of mechanics as the player does the same job rotation while moving from side to side to avoid her predictable attacks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why would MMO bosses and enemies do any of that? That sounds fricking annoying. It's not a character-action game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cause that's interesting combat? It's what Monster Hunter does?
This argument is predicated on someone claiming that MMO combat is inherently superior to something like Monster Hunter when that just isn't true, it's repetitious and offers little to no depth.
2 years ago
Anonymous
your fault for getting into a "hurr apples r better than oranges" argument
2 years ago
Anonymous
Monster Hunter isn't a hotbar MMO and everybody trying to compare the two is a slack-jawed fricking ape.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>This argument is predicated on someone claiming that MMO combat is inherently superior to something like Monster Hunter when that just isn't true
It is, monster hunter has an incredibly limited range of boss and character mechanics. No one who has ever cleared a penultimate mythic boss would consider MH a more challenging game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Go play your Rathalos EX trial and leave the rest of us alone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The funny thing here is while Behemoth in Monster Hunter showcases the strengths of Monster Hunter's combat when applied in the context of a XIV fight, Rathalos EX does the exact opposite by showcasing how shit XIV's combat really is when you put it in the context of a real video game boss battle.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then go play Blade and Soul or whatever for an MMO that doesn't have tab target combat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, I'll just keep playing this game without living under the delusion that it's somehow an example of excellent PvE video game content.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Feel better now?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you ever going to provide an example of large scale PVE that's better than mmos or are you going to keep filling up the thread with mouth diarrhea about Monster Hunter, which doesn't large scale PVE?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not the anon who you were arguing with about that, I just jumped in the moment you seemed to claim XIV had more mechanical depth in its combat system than MH, which it doesn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
I know nothing about Destiny 2 except my friend tells me it has the best gunplay in the industry.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's a cool game as long as you don't expect Halo-level single player content from it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not that anon and I think this is a stupid argument to try and compare combat from two different genres, BUT as someone who played MH before going to XIV, I do find it funny how apparently annoyed XIV players got with how Rathalos works with his lack of emnity mechanics and random moves. Like, yeah, that's how Monster Hunter monsters work, it's not hard to deal with.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're part of the reason why all damage is scripted. I fricking hate casuals ffs
2 years ago
Anonymous
WoW bosses have all kinds of randomness and reactive gameplay. Why are you just making up lies about video games? Tribalism isn't that important.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>boss puts mechanic on this person OR THIS PERSON >look at how dynamic the bosses are!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Being both reductive and disingenuous isn't helping your awful argument.
I just want a more interactive game. Frick rotation troony shit. Make bosses cast paralyze on you to shout at the healer for an esuna. Make ast give haste again. Frick you Yoshi.
>Make bosses cast paralyze on you to shout at the healer for an esuna.
WoW already does this sort of shit all the time. There's nothing about mmos that prevents combat from being designed this way, FFXIV just doesn't because the players sperg out about even 1 second of rotational downtime.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Even if the “reactive” gameplay was actually reactive, it does not matter if it is piss easy and gives you 15 minutes to call out and move where you need to be. I was falling asleep progging in SoD and Sepulcher Mythic. It is genuinely so easy and boring
2 years ago
Anonymous
>At the end of the day once you do a fight in XIV once you've seen everything it has to offer, there's no unpredictability, no enemies that adapt to your tactics or try to dodge out of the way, nothing.
I don't think this applies to *any* MMO in a way that actually matters. "Reactive elements" or "unpredictability" in these games tend to be random or semi-random shuffling around of its AI elements which is an extremely cheap way of introducing variance in its moveset.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>combat system where the actual combat never impacts you or the enemy's state beyond dead or not dead
this is how everyone here can tell you've never played an mmo.
an example off the top of my head is in WoW where there are literally dozens upon dozens of status affects that interact with player abilities and even the environment (ie. dispelling makes an add spawn, or drops a moving add mob onto the floor,etc.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's some random moron shitposting just ignore them.
monthly fees are a relic of the past that people accept because it was always a thing with "hardcore" MMOs
FFXIV and WoW easily earn more from other sources now
monthly fees make me hate the game because i feel like i need to squeeze as much content as fast as possible from it instead of taking my time to make my payment worth it
that is only elevated by shit like waiting in queues etc.
My god thank you, everyone saying "well dont treat it as an mmo treat is as a final fantasy game" other final fantasy games don't make me pay every fricking month for jack shit, also the story is the most boring generic shit ever, any "mmo" where the plot is that YOUR CHARACTER IS THE CHOSEN ONE is a game that was made into an mmo at the last fricking second, or just written by people with no self awareness in the slightest. honestly any MMO with a "main story quest" is just formulaically wrong, MMOs should give you a world to explore and experience and have adventures in, learning at your own pace should you want to, not a fricking 100%-on-rails generic piece of shit where every class feels the same and there's either no reason to group up with people or a dungeon finder does it for you(it's about 50/50 in this game, you can actually do dungeons with NPC parties(LOL) but I think bosses and raids and shit do need other players)
if you reply to me by saying I didn't do any of the endgame content you missed the point, a good game shouldn't try your patience for 400 hours before getting to the allegedly fun content
also FRICK SQUENIX for how they handled blue mage in this game, every class is homogenized dogshit but blue mage got actually murdered, most requested class in the game but dead on arrival, makes me wish the rumors about an FF11 remake were true just so people would frick off and play that instead
seethe troony, I hate all MMOs equally, proof that ff14 is seen as better than wow despite them both being the same garbage is proof that the entire genre will be in hell for a very long time
That formula is never coming back. The reason FFXIV is a single player, chosen one story MMO is because of WoW, which streamlined a lot of shit and focused on story ever since Wrath.
XIV 1.0 was hated because it had a lot of "oldschool" MMO shit like no auction where you had to trade with players themselves and was basically fricking crucified for it because how DARE they not do everything as convenient and easy to minmax, 100% and finish as possible?
So Realm Reborn was basically remade from ground up and they admitted they basically looked at WoW as their Holy Bible on how to make an MMO.
The difference and advantage XIV had to WoW though is that since it was from ground up, they could use the convenience as their DNA, so it was a game always intended to be casual friendly instead of a game that tried to be hardcore but had to change it identity over the years. It allowed for a lot of shit that is objectively better, like the job system replacing the need to make shitton of alts.
I wish they bothered to make BLU relevant in all content, the idea of finding and learning spells in the overworld/in specific content would be so fun (esp. considering how boring all the other jobs are).
I wouldn't really change it too much but I'd let BLU be able to use the duty finder instead of having to set up BLU parties on PF. I think waiting for the mob or boss to cast the specific spell is tedious though, and it should just give you the spell when killing it regardless of if you've waited long enough (or had to cheese the enrage like the boss in The Burn).
>but I'd let BLU be able to use the duty finder instead of having to set up BLU parties on PF
You mean, to queue to find other BLUs? I guess that would make sense though the queues would probably be horrendous. Or do you mean like a general "BLU roulette"? >I think waiting for the mob or boss to cast the specific spell is tedious though
I don't mind that, what I do mind is that it's not a 100% spell get chance once you see it. It's already enough of a ballache to find each spell without any clue as to what the spell is, only a zone, without considering that you ALSO potentially have to get hit by the spell multiple times before you get it.
If I didn't give up and just look up the spells online I'd probably still be roaming the overworld letting myself get beaten up by monsters. Or (more likely) I would have given up after like an hour or so.
I think BLUs should be able to queue in with standard jobs honestly, they could easily do that if they fixed the levels and ranks of spells so you could only have x amount of 5*,4*, or 3* spells (similar to triple triad) and change spell levels so they're appropriate to the level of the content you're doing. Also yeah it's stupid that it's a % chance and that the BLU guide isn't useful at all for overworld mobs (it would make sense for mobs that drop BLU spells to have an icon over their head, similar to quest and Hunt Log mobs).
2 years ago
Anonymous
>(it would make sense for mobs that drop BLU spells to have an icon over their head, similar to quest and Hunt Log mobs).
Or even just better clues, like the difference between the ARR and every other expansion sightseeing log.
Tell me what kind of spell it is, or give me a dumb riddle.
Or have a message like the 'mark' system when you start fighting an enemy. >you sense you could learn something from this foe...
Doesn't even have to specify WHAT spell, just that you can. That'd be enough for me. As it is, you either beat your head against every mob in a zone multiple times until something drops, or you look it up online.
>I'd let BLU be able to use the duty finder
even if there was a blu-only DF, it would be shit
the reason BLU is limited is because you can find morons without skills doing shit they shouldn't.
and the devs are allergic to gatekeeping literally anything.
just make it so you have to have a certain amount of spells unlocked to access higher levels of content. doesn't really matter if they do their rotations poorly, standard jobs do that too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>certain amount of spells unlocked
they don't even have jobstone be necessarity in DF anon, they dont and will not gatekeep anything beyond ilvl
What are your issues with BLU anon?
For me personally, the main 3 issues I have with it are >shitty spellbook/acquisition mechanic, that's either a chore or a cheat >not allowed in most content >they nerf the super spells even in the overworld for FATEs and stuff
>a good game shouldn't try your patience for 400 hours before getting to the allegedly fun content
You can spot a wowbuck immediately when they say shit like this.
>refuses to reply after he gets BTFO for the moron he is >continues to post and reply to other people to defend his WoWpride
Is this the power of wowgays?
>Merlwyb outright admits to breaking treaties with the beastmen almost as soon as she makes them so she can steal their land, and when they inevitably retaliate she just sends you in like a Mafia goon to beat them into submission. >But Nanamo is worse than that.
All arealm reborn leaders are shit only worth it was ishgard and lazy devs didnt add it as fourth faction shit , i still dont understand why players simps for raubahn he is a mutt roe nigher that was the bodyBlack person of nanamo as ilberd said
i played from heavensward up to post msq of shadowbringers in 2 months of subs, im so burned out of the game but i want to play endwalker now, frick me this game is too long but the story and characters are interesting, also i barely see it as a real game but more like a visual novel, this game is 90% reading and 10% fighting
literally the only thing i miss about ff14 is frontlines
the feast is dogshit
even then, onsal is literally the only good map, it was fun when that was the new map and it was the only frontlines being played but now it's on rotation
is it worth resubbing to ff14 just to play some pvp even if i don't have endwalker
Oh nice, but SGE and RPR are locked, right? I'd kind of want to try those, damn.
2 years ago
Anonymous
RPR is fricked in pvp, not really fun to play.
SGE is only as good as its team.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I suppose they are though I have yet to play around with them. Like any PVP type game, there are a lot of options, but you usually just stick to a few to get really good at them and while I jumped around, I prefer MNK the best right now.
RPR's gimmick in PVP is its Limit Break that causes all enemies in range to lose control of their characters and slowly move in the direction they were pointing when you execute it for like 2 seconds. Dancer has a similar Limit Break. It's best used in conjunction with your teammate's Limit Breaks so you can do maximum damage while your foe can't heal themselves, run away. or pop their Guard.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/reaper/#pvp
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/dancer/#pvp
Sage's Limit Break pops a small AOE circle that heals your team when they stand inside of it and applies a DoT on enemies that come inside of it. Also, enemies attacking anyone inside the AOE who do NOT have the DoT do zero damage.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/sage/#pvp
2 years ago
Anonymous
>that heals your team when they stand inside
It doesn't.
Only give your team the buff that make them no damage if the enemy team doesn't get the debuff.
They use chiten, it's SAM defensive buff that reduce damage taken by 25%, also damage anyone who hit them, but more importantly, put a debuff on anyone that hit the SAM that make their Limitbreak Zantetsuken, eat out 100% of the enemy HP.
So all they had to do is pop Chiten, guard, everyone around him hit him stupidly, and pop limit break once guard is off to kill everyone around him.
oh ok its a SAM LB, I for some reason read it as Frontlines BLM
Everytime I try this shit in Frontlines I only ever bag one dope. Still find SAM pretty fun, like a MNK that actually does damage.
People are wise to SAM these days. I don't play SAM, but I'd guess your best bet is to use its LB only defensively. So, only use it when you're in trouble and trying to get away or something.
They use chiten, it's SAM defensive buff that reduce damage taken by 25%, also damage anyone who hit them, but more importantly, put a debuff on anyone that hit the SAM that make their Limitbreak Zantetsuken, eat out 100% of the enemy HP.
So all they had to do is pop Chiten, guard, everyone around him hit him stupidly, and pop limit break once guard is off to kill everyone around him.
>mfw i just cast aquaveil on myself and live through that shit
They use chiten, it's SAM defensive buff that reduce damage taken by 25%, also damage anyone who hit them, but more importantly, put a debuff on anyone that hit the SAM that make their Limitbreak Zantetsuken, eat out 100% of the enemy HP.
So all they had to do is pop Chiten, guard, everyone around him hit him stupidly, and pop limit break once guard is off to kill everyone around him.
once you're caught up with everyone else and experience content releases at the intended pace it's not as bad but yeah the new player experience is kind of fricked with the amount of catchup you have to do
i pay 10€ a month and only sub when a big content patch drops. my reason for subbing is also the "unneeded MMO shit" and not the single player story mode
Square is arguably the most woke and pozzed of the big Jap companies though.
It is only a matter of time until some next patch changes Male/Female to Bodytype A/B.
Name one who does more woke shit?
They literally make a nignog female protag game to pander to westerners.
ArcSys and shit like Bridget doesn't count because they are small. We are talking "having own E3 booth/presentation big" here. Square Enix is easily the most pozzed and SJW company out there. Their main FF singer came out as non-binary as well.
>Square is arguably the most woke and pozzed of the big Jap companies though.
No, the higher-ups are just complete morons that keep trying to jump on every imaginable bandwagon and bleeding money along the way.
I seriously doubt any of the 60+y.o. out-of-touch jap businessmen actually give a ship about wokeness.
>I seriously doubt any of the 60+y.o. out-of-touch jap businessmen actually give a ship about wokeness.
That applies to literally every company though
If you think suits running Blizzard or MS or any other big western company are as woke as the blue haired HR prostitute they hired, you are moronic.
Man, in hindsight, WAR really got the short end of the stick with EW. >GNB got a 1200 potency GCD on a 60sec CD that can crit/DH >DRK got a double stack 600 potency oGCD that's also up every 2min for raid buff that can crit/DH >PLD got its Confiteor buffed to 1000 potency and get its magical burst window buffed once again
>Meanwhile WAR got a puny 700 potency that auto crit/dh every min >The only meaningful buff it got for its burst (it's strongest point) is a fricking 10 potency increase to fell cleave
SE really don't want WAR to have good damage again...
Don't forget that the patch that should have make WAR burst stronger by giving a damage bonus to their IR/IC auto crit/DH actually make them even weaker LMAO
Doesn't WAR have big numbers for a tank? I don't know since the numbers are basically meaningless to me, I just like the noises when you go Bloodwhetting > Infuriate > Chaotic Cyclone or whatever the move is called.
That sucks, but on the other hand you can't really 'feel it' in anything that matters. Like I savage raid, I put in BiS as my static suggests but I can't really feel any difference in how fast the boss goes down even when getting the next tier of gear.
That's one of the worst parts of the game is the lack of feedback. Like I mentioned before, it can feel great in terms of sound effects and feedback when you nail a bunch of enemies with an AOE while in Infuriate + Bloodwhetting/Nascent Flash, but that's one of the few moves in the game that really feels like you did something.
Numbers are the shittiest way to convey attack feedback.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean, that's not necessarily true, the problem is XIV has had stat creep up the ass so the numbers are meaningless now.
Back in the day when the average DPS was 500 you had big damage thresholds like 1k or 10k which felt great to surpass with the most powerful skills in the game, but now even your basic auto attacks do 10k damage so it feels meaningless to see a Fire IV hit for 67,934.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's just what happens if you have so many levels and have to balance them so there are meaningful differences between 10 levels or so.
Anyway, even if the numbers are small I dislike them as a means of telling you how well you're doing. Any game that has pop-up damage numbers I turn off, if it'll let me do it. It's lazy.
The game doesn't even tell you how much health the boss has with a numerical value, so it's not even a useful tool for that.
Real DRK mains are bad malera groomers anyway. Every other person playing DRK is an omnitank who is only playing it because it's good right now and will swap to whatever is best for Criterion Dungeons when the time comes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah I like DRK, it was my main until pretty recently. I don't play Au Ra.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Femlala player here, DRK has been my main tank since forever. It will never reclaim the glory of the HW days but it's still the most fun tank even in its gimped form.
>constantly see people shitting on female Miqo'te players
well then they shouldn't have made catgirls the objectively best looking and best designed race in the game
or maybe i should play the fricking moronic potato midget race who only trigger in me unreasonable hatred and rage and i have a huge need to just smash their big moron heads like watermelons
other options include looking like a flaming homosexual or some weird skin color Hulk clone
at least with Miqo'te you can make an interesting looking/feral/edgy female character
>that'd be 15$ a month for playing what is essentially a single player jRPG with some tacked on unneeded MMO shit
>literally 0 personality: the character >devs add 1 or 2 joke interactions where she does sexual/mommy jokes with your character >suddenly every troony goes OMG MOMMY MOMMY FRICK ME WITH YOUR FUTA wiener MOMMY
Lyse basically spreads her legs for the WOL. Takes a special kind of autist to deny her advances and then not have her musclehead brain try to rape him but who knows, the end of SB to the end of EW was some clusterfrick and now that things calmed down she might try.
0 personality: the character
Herbpersonality was being a snarky nerd. Even before ShB I wanted her to read scientific studies into aether-related topics to me even though I'd barely understand them.
I genuinely cannot express how much joy the 6.1 scene in the Restricted Section brought me.
This. I hope she fricks off to the first when we finally figure out a way to go back there. I don't dislike her, but holy frick, Yshtola gays are so fricking annoying.
This. I hope she fricks off to the first when we finally figure out a way to go back there. I don't dislike her, but holy frick, Yshtola gays are so fricking annoying.
he has a point though
FFXIV is praised because it's basically a single player FF with great story and some MMO tacked on, what exactly are we paying for there?
Not really, I'd wager if you're trying to get your money's worth and actually doing everything in the game a majority of your time is gonna be spent either in raids, messing with the crafting and gathering system or doing dungeons to level combat classes after you've exhausted every quest.
Despite how it's advertised by the people who play it the quests are a very small part of the overall package in XIV, it's just that they're the main focus when you're leveling your first few combat jobs.
It's 15$ a month, then you have to pay extra if you want to p2w and get more storage space and more ventures with retainers. Then if you want any good looking outfit you have to pay 30$ to buy one on the mogstore as they stopped giving outfits for "free".
Then you have to buy a 50$ expansion bi-yearly.
Oh and if you ever want to change your characters appearance you have to pay 10$
WoW approaches leveling differently than XIV.
Quests aren't locked behind anything beyond your level and ability to reach their physical location on the map, so you have a plethora of ways to approach leveling your character that's not just following a particular quest chain - i.e. you can just spam dungeons until you get to max level and immediately start raiding, or if you want you can power level until you're high enough to start questing in the current expansion zones instead without doing any quests prior to that.
By contrast in XIV even if you wanted to just spam dungeons to max you'd have to do the story quests just to unlock said dungeons and then you'd still be locked out of everything until you beat the story, it's much more railroaded and less freeform.
I'd say there's merits to both approaches.
Ironically I think it's apt to compare them to comics and manga.
WoW takes the comic approach where you're not really meant to read everything and just pick up the isolated stories that interest you.
XIV is a lot more like manga where it expects you to have been following from the beginning in order to understand what's going on and get the full picture.
Besides a crap reborn until stormshit you got the important dungeons for levelling rest is optional shit to do to cap the gear token the only missable shit is ignoring raids, but tbh the normal raid roulette xp gain sucks along with the tutorial instances roulette
>Quests aren't locked behind anything beyond your level and ability to reach their physical location on the map
That's not always true
I remember clearly being stuck in dragonblight with no quest anywhere because I skipped a previous requisite
We have a lot of people from all over but the majority are from the US, yeah. I hope you find what you're looking for in an FC if you decide to resub, friend!
I'm sorry for your loss. If you do decide you wanna give us a try later on, here's a link to our lodestone page, we're an entirely Ganker FC.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/freecompany/9236460623271952313/
The story is enjoyable, but is very much a visual novel with no player input - and makes me wonder why I'm paying a sub to watch something I can see on YouTube
Dungeons are only ever "OK", they're more spectacle than enjoyable and really just boil down to avoid red circles
Combat is mediocre, and every class has a static PVE rotation that you won't ever deviate from. Plus there's no customization or variety, so I don't have anything for my character to "work" towards becoming
Open-world content is non-existent and completely empty, and maps only exist for you to move from Point A to Point B to do your MSQ
PVP... is probably the worst I've ever played in an MMO, and this is after a supposed revamp.
>static member had a complete mental breakdown, unfriended everyone, left our linkshell, ect because our raid leader was "being toxic" despite him doing quite literally fricking nothing
Excellent
The only reason to play this game are the story and the raids. The casual side-content has less engaging gameplay than children's games like mario and zelda, so only literal moronic people do that stuff.
>TPS is disbanded because they lost two world's first and were utterly exposed as worthless without their datamining 9th man. You can't make this shit up.
I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but I've been savage raiding since ShB and I have next to no knowledge of raiding 'culture'/popular statics or stuff like that.
frick frick frick
I really want the stupid red allagan ball mount
but getting 200 frontlines victories seems like extreme chinese water wiener and ball torture.
Just do the roulette a few times a week, preferably when it's ice or Mongolia map since those give you mounts for winning too. I think it's "just" 100 wins for the basic ball that other anon got. Which is still a huge pain in the ass to get, to be fair.
I guess. I've been trying to gauge interest in a PVP group in our FC to see if we can just spend a bit of time grinding it out, after all a problem shared is a problem multiplied and it'd be a bit easier to deal with while talking bullshit with friends.
>who can play.
That's also a problem, I fricking suck at PVP.
Thancred was the only person who gave a frick about Minfilia, because I sure as hell didn't.
Yeah, if I'm honest Minfilia was probably the scion I was least concerned with, I've always found the obsession some seem to have with her a bit odd. I mean I guess blonde woman big booba, but apart from that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I fricking suck at PVP.
Time to start learning then, with 4 people who are all throwing you'll just make it worse.
>doing ucob on pf >we got to golden bahamut and wipe >our dps is crazy enough to even skip divebombs >a homosexual says he needs to go
NO what the frick you dont do this wtf. This Black folk know nothing? How the frick you leave like this???
Thanks anon. I think people sleep on the bearsmaw/bearsliege (the ARR PVP gear as a whole in fact) too much. pic related is the helmet for the hawksliege (MNK)
Y'shtola Rhul has a problem. She's addicted to smooches. It started innocently enough. A little bit of harmless daydreaming here and there. A desire for few stolen kisses. But before she knew it, she was hooked. She needs smooches. She craves them. She can't get enough.
But her addiction took over when she started working as the leader of a weird cult. She would go to the lahee swamp every night, and she would always make sure to get a good view of the Night's Blessed. She would watch the other girls kissing and handholding, and she would get so lonely for WoL. She would start frothing and foaming, and she wouldn't be able to stop.
She started trying to smooch WoL, and she loved it. She would do anything WoL asked, but he was autistic. She would even go to his room in the middle of the night, and she would always try to make WoL give her a good smooching but he just nodded affably.
But it wasn't enough. She wanted more and more smooches. She started sending more signals to WoL, but he still didn't get it. She didn't care if he had good parses or not. She just needed his smooches on her.
She started to get a reputation as a smoochaholic, and she hated it. She disliked being the lovestruck cat who would do anything for a smooch.
She knows it's wrong. She knows she should be focusing on her studies and her duties as a Scions of the Seventh Dawn. But she just can't help herself. She needs WoL smooches. And she'll do anything to get them.
Even if it means risking everything she holds dear.
Non savage endgame raids: >nooo, we don't have to help you out newbie, that would spoil the mechanics, but we do have time to type out all of this condescending shit to you before we pull, go watch a guide or something
Savage endgame raids >we can't let you join our static, you don't know the mechanics and have 10000 hours of experience with this instance. You say you watched a guide? Not good enough, we all watched a guide but it still took us hundreds of tries before we managed to get a clear
True story, actually happened to me about a week ago.
>it still took us hundreds of tries before we managed to get a clear
This is such horseshit, the difference between progging as a newbie to the fight alongside 7 other shitters vs progging as a newbie alongside 7 people who have it on farm is night and day - you can clear that shit in 5 pulls after watching a guide.
I've been barking up this tree since 2.0 ended but I've always asserted that the community has always been the worst part of FFXIV. Not the balance, not the gameplay, not the grind, not the lack of endgame content, etc. The community USED to be good. But no longer.
For some moron reason my static dont like to watch guides zoomers for some reason are scared of focusing for 10 minutes on a video for some reason . But they love to wait for one of the people who can actually watch one to explain everything to then. I just dont get it.
>what is essentially a single player jRPG
The sad thing is that FFXIV even does a dogshit job AT THAT >text box >npc disappears >teleport somewhere else >text box >npc disappears >teleport somewhere else >text box >npc disappears >teleport somewhere else >go to opposite side of map to kill or gather 3 things >text box >npc disappears >teleport somewhere else >text box >npc disappears >teleport somewhere else
What hot garbage. In JRPGs you're actually doing things with your party. In FFXIV you're basically walking from point A to B rinse-and-repeat for 300 hours.
All the "fun" and "cheese" is already sanitized, anon. Wow you can kill 1 pack of mobs every 2 minutes? And only if you trade 2 spells for it that is less dmg to the boss? Wow. SE just dont care about dungeons anyway. They already revamped all the old ones to be super easy and corridor-like.
Considering that many of the spells mostly boil down to "deals 200-220 potency of damage and 50% less to nearby enemies" with a specific element and a gimmick there's not much to balance around, really.
coalescing of gods and cultures over time
hades and poseidon were the same person for a while among other quirks of who counts as a greek god
also because thal's balls is funny
1º I play for free
2º I don't care about the Story
3º I'm here just to fish, cook, craft, and casually explore the world now THAT is epic.
The rest is just cashgrab shit.
>they don't let you dress up M'Naago for doing the delivery quests
FRICK OFF
M'naago looks like she is secretly hoping the WoL will claim and her and take her aware from the shithole that is Ala Mhigo and needing to babysit Lyse.
That is basically her custom delivery questline. Basically you go to her father and tell him to STFU. As far as the tribe is concern you already claimed her.
>"I'll avoid giving any definite answer about whether or not Zenos the chicken will make an appearance in-game but I can say that the stream turned out to be a great source of stimulation for thinking up future rewards," he said.
>in Graha's timeline WoL died before Shadowbringers >he was never able to time travel to Elpis >he never met Venat
So why were we chosen as WoL in Graha's timeline? Why did she care about us?
Nah alex story was already closed with him. Its the fujo chink that used him for no reason just go have the cat on the first. Then used it again for no reason at all to show us shit from elpis
>AND THEN >FOR LITERALLY NO REASON >FOR THEIR TIME TRAVEL PLOT, THEY REUSED THE ROBOT THAT CAN TIME TRAVEL >BRAVO YOSHIDA >BRAVO SQUARE ENIX
Does it hurt, Anon?
Alexander ultimately was a machine and the Tycoon is a magitek recreation of Alexander Prime. It's not impossible to recreate a primal's abilities with machinery, magitek, or even just being such an excellent mage that you scrape the end of a primal's raw affinity for their element. There's multiple fire wizards like Saurtovoir that can use Eruption, a spell from Ifrit, for example.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mimicking an elemental magic spell and recreating fully functional time travel seems to be like apples and oranges though.
Even more so considering there was nothing to reverse engineer since Alexander went poof.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alexander's time travel is magic at the end of the day. >there was nothing to reverse engineer since Alexander went poof.
A century or two is a pretty damn long time to single-mindedly focus on recreation of a primal's abilities, and they had Omega's help.
Please correct me if wrong about this, but also in our timeline why is there no Emet? In Graha's timeline, why isn't their a Zenos? If we saved that timeline, does it really affect our timeline that we're in? This confuses me on many levels, but I just discount the game being for 16 year olds and wanna turn off my brain at some point.
Graha's timeline is the exact same as ours up until the end of Stormblood, where Garlameld was successful in releasing Black Rose.
Graha's timeline has a Zenos and an Emet. In fact Emet was successful in the 8th calamity and rejoined the First.
Graha's actions only effected our timeline. There's no indication his was saved or changed at all.
>There's no indication his was saved or changed at all
Then what was the point of it all
2 years ago
Anonymous
Graha's timeline is the exact same as ours up until the end of Stormblood, where Garlameld was successful in releasing Black Rose.
Graha's timeline has a Zenos and an Emet. In fact Emet was successful in the 8th calamity and rejoined the First.
Graha's actions only effected our timeline. There's no indication his was saved or changed at all.
Please correct me if wrong about this, but also in our timeline why is there no Emet? In Graha's timeline, why isn't their a Zenos? If we saved that timeline, does it really affect our timeline that we're in? This confuses me on many levels, but I just discount the game being for 16 year olds and wanna turn off my brain at some point.
if I recall don't G'raha or Urianger mention the doomed timeline and just hand wave it as 'we just don't know what changed' ?
2 years ago
Anonymous
They were betting everything on the erasure of their own timeline by going back to fix things, since the First being rejoined was the most damaging Calamity the world had ever seen and almost resulted in Man's extinction.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We stopped the release of Black Rose in our timeline, and Graha got to adventure with us. So it all worked out in the end. At least until Graha's timeline Zenos rips open a portal to our world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>spoiler
Watch this happen and all hell breaks lose.
2 years ago
Anonymous
that would actually be interesting if it was like Bizarro Zenos who became a hero after watching us die an ignoble death by Black Rose and couldn't fight him again so he followed our example, that way the fujo get him back but the real Zenos from our world is still dead
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, he will come to us because of his hunt fetish. But the soul of our Zenos senses him and jumps into his body and absorbs his soul so our Zenos is basically back to life and joins the Scions for 7.0.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>A world where Zenos might be our actual friend rather than a schizo claiming we are friends
Bring him back just so he can get proper character writing and development please. The end of EW made me feel slightly bad for him, but in all he is a poorly written character.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He was a poorly written character in SB that got brought back to have 2 cool character moments so there was at least something positive associated with him.
For the love of god don't bring him back again.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"Simple" is not "poorly written"
Zenos being a single-minded monster with no higher motivations is something noted by both himself and other characters
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"Simple" is not "poorly written"
No, it's not.
Zenos is both a poorly written character AND a simple one, thanks for correcting that. It's not until EW where he becomes a simple character that's not poorly written.
2 years ago
Anonymous
he's badly written in stormblood but not endwalker because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
2 years ago
Anonymous
because he has no point in the story and isn't a husk devoid of anything that says ENOUGH and people jizz themselves for some reason
we even killed him as a god dragon and dude wanted a rematch because he was a sore loser
perhaps he could have been better written if he was in another expansion and not shitblood, but hey we don't have to worry about that because that's what happened
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he has no point in the story
- Garlemald has its own "Warrior of Light" equivalent in power
- Garlean royalty is objectively evil
- Between Zenos and Varis, Garleans are very aware of "Eorzean" powers like the Echo and turn it over to their own side >wanted a rematch because he was a sore lower
Because he thought he peaked and he didn't, Endwalker is chasing that high by going 5000000 times higher
Shitblood was written by the same girl as Endwalker and Zenos would behave the same in any other expac as he does in Shitblood and Endwalker, projecting Stormblood's mediocrity onto Zenos as a character assessment is fricking baffling
2 years ago
Anonymous
>- Garlean royalty is objectively evil
solus was nice (well, kind of) until his kid died
varis is a certified moron and zenos doesn't have anything in his brain other than fight
stormblood was written by banri oda and ishikawa, notably almost all parts of gyr abania were written by banri and almost all parts of doma were written by ishikawa, funny how literally every single plot beat in gyr abania or involving a character from there like lyse is unbearable and it's only in parts of doma does the writing get tolerable
It's true that stormblood being shit and zenos being shit are two different things, but they're closely linked. Stormblood Zenos could have potentially been a good character but he wasn't, so they wrung what was left of him into an ok character for EW
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not the anon, but endwalker actually gives him some character, especially while he's dying and what he says to us. It was that that made me actually want him back so he could get futher development, but I guess thw way he was written it was more of a cationary tale of following a life of hedonism
2 years ago
Anonymous
When having to deal with Zenos, it felt like dealing with a special ed kid. Not his fault he's all messed up. Just please I want him to be fixed, but no of course he's not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No. Zenos is dead. I gave him his "That, I can't deny." and he died happy. Let him stay dead.
What the frick are you even saying? Both Emet and Zenos exist in both timelines, the doomed timeline is the exact same as the one the game follows except for the part where you pass out in front of Elidibus in Zenos's body due to the Exarch pulling your soul away and Estinien has to rescue you.
The timeline stuff is confusing but at the end of the day there's a pretty simple solution - it's a stable time loop, G'raha's time travel shenanigans happen every time even if he himself comes from an alternate timeline.
>EW was cheap, gay and unnecessary.
Plus the 'we now have the ability to warp reality to our will' I hope we get ShB level of consequences for this because too much deus ex machima pulls have been done and it felt annoying. If dubs, I say Emet or Zenos is coming back in between this and 7.0
>warp reality to our will
*while submerged in a bigass vat of reality-warping emotion juice at the ass end of the universe where nothing lives except memory golems
What the frick are you talking about? Both SB and ShB felt anything but planned out.
SB in particular feels like it had to condense two expansions into one so they could have an expansion dedicated to the shitty filler First content, it just so happened to be so much better written than the Source stuff that nobody cared that it was filler for most of it.
Realistically the actual plan should have been >2.0 - Eorzea and Gaius >3.0 - Ishgard >4.0 - Ala Mhigo >5.0 - Doma >6.0 - Garlemald >7.0 - Zodiark
>ywn curl up with Y'shtola after sex on a seat by the window while the two of you sip tea and read on a snowy day in your Ishgard private house under a blanket.
No, you can complain in Newfound Adventure that you just wanted to take it easy and she laughs at you, next thing you know you're in the fricking void.
>Every night is marathon babymaking sex night with 'shtola >Her endgame is to start her own damn seeker tribe. >she is down for bringing in F'lhaminn and M'naago along to have an actual pool of genes >Also willing to genderbend G'raha for you too.
PvP GNB is a pretty good harrier job and can weave in and out of combat. Continuation lets you get some sneaky kill-confirms with the extra attack and being able to mimic an enemy role for a themed ability makes you versatile. You're not the best at anything but you're another good frontliner and you can heal a little bit *in a pinch,* do some tanking with a slightly worse Holy Sheltron *in a pinch,* or get in a heavy hit *in a pinch.* Assuming of course the enemy team is composed of appropriate jobs for you to copy.
i wouldn't mind if they were design contest weapons, that gunblade is fly as frick and the shark jaw one was pretty cool
i'm mad the dragonsong swordspear didn't get higher and win, not that i'm mad another swordspear also won but because it doesn't stand out as much compared to the heavensward themed one
it's just a bit sad tbh, especially since spells like saintly beam have that effect. it's not like healers have much going for them anyways in regards to a "rotation".
ENOUGH ARGUING, MMO FRENS. WE MUST BAND TOGEHTER AND WIN OUR HOBBY BACK BY FORCING COMPANIES TO UNPOZZ OUR FAVORITE WORLDS AND FIGHT GLOBOhomosexual SEEPING INTO GAMING.
I like 14 a hell of a lot more than monster hunter (I enjoy monster hunter a fair amount too though) but pretending mmo combat is good is something I will not abide for.
It's not like monster hunter's combat is perfect either, it's just miles above an mmo.
I just want a more interactive game. Frick rotation troony shit. Make bosses cast paralyze on you to shout at the healer for an esuna. Make ast give haste again. Frick you Yoshi.
>Make bosses cast paralyze on you to shout at the healer for an esuna
Less than half of the healers I encounter will bother to cleanse removable debuffs, unless it's Doom or something.
Make healer remember they're not dps. Make all damage not scripted, more things to esuna, i know ma6be resistances and weakness would not work but make the fcking game more interactive between the members other than reduct the dmg taken or increased by a %. Hell people hate the pacification meme but it was an interaction between jobs.
its actually 30 a month since i pay for my EBs subscription too!
How much was it for your wiener cage too?~
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The worst part of this mmo is the player base forcing you to play the 400 hour story.
The player base dont force you to do shit m8. Thats the devs. People really seem to forget this a main entry so the story is the main part and the mmo comes second.
>The player base dont force you to do shit m8.
the players will harass you, send death threats, etc. if you skip cutscenes.
homie you can do whatever you want. But if you skip custscenes and then say the story is shit then we have a problem.
>But if you skip custscenes and then say the story is shit then we have a problem.
Let's be real, you'd sperg out over someone calling the story shit even if they watched every cutscene twice.
>Ganker is one person
No. Story is shit in a lot of places tho.
True, but people on her sperg out if you admit you don't like their tranime games or VNs. This is spergville.
The story its shit after killing zodiark and zenos noping out of the moon like a b***h when you gonna frick her after all that tease
Only if you're a dumbass streamer who tries to farm clicks and makes a big deal out of it. Most people in-game don't care.
???
I take the piss out of my sister because she skipped the entire story, but like, that's not the end of the world. It's like getting mad because people on here call you a homosexual because you're bad at a game.
Yes anon, random users will get hunted down and harassed for daring to skip cutscenes, this is totally a thing that happens.
One time I said in novice network that I skip all the cutscenes and dozens of people whispered me angry shit over the following several days. This community gets extremely upset if you play the game in a way that doesn't follow their internal script.
Things that never happened for 500, Alex
>if i don't like it, it didn't happen
classic ffxiv player.
>instantly gets defensive and separates himself from the people he claims to be a part of
Ya, you aren’t fooling anybody
>kills the WoWbuck with 100% consistency
>34K
UMMMMMMM OHHHH NO NO NO NO HEE HEE HOO HOO
>4.8 miillion people subscribe to WoW
So it's objectively more than FFXIV, which has 1.7m according to the census. Good to know.
XIV has 27 million subs. Half of those WoW subs are inactive Chinese accounts with 1 hour of game time. Cope, baby.
>NOOOO ITS NOT REAL ITS NOT REAL
>XIV has 27 million subs
That's not true, obviously. At best it has 27 registered players, including all bots, all free trials, and every single person who has an account without a sub.
These links confirm the lie that you told:
https://dotesports.com/mmo/news/final-fantasy-xiv-number-of-players-worldwide
https://www.ign.com/articles/final-fantasy-14-24-million-players-most-profitable
>27 registered players
27 million registered players*
>his own source says it has 23 million more than the 1 million he was claiming a second ago
Is this the power of WoWbucks? Do you feel better after defending your troony Blizzard game?
>his own source says it has 23 million more than the 1 million he was claiming a second ago
Are you illiterate by any change? The link claims there are 24 million registered users, not subs. The 1.7m figure comes from the luckylbancho census: https://ffxivcensus.com/
>luckylbancho
Frick off, Barry. Learn English next time
It's not often people are stupid enough that I have to post this ancient meme image, but I suppose there's a time for everything.
>can’t cope with being called out
>i have no idea how barry works or talks or what he obsesses over but i need to fit in by naming a shitposter
You've never actually seen Barry if you think he'd accept a Luckybancho census as data, let alone post one. Get out.
>make shit up
its the only thing you can do xivtroon
>WoWbucks already seething at the facts
>no argument
i accept your concession xivtroon
I got your concession when you gays defended gay frogs in your troony game. Now cope, seethe, and dilate
>defended gay frogs in your troony game
but enough about ffxiv
Point to where XIV has troony devs, troony players, troony NPCs, gay frogs, and gay dragons
>troony players
anon I...
Played WoW for 2 years and met 6 trannies
Played XIV for 5 years, met 0 trannies so far
Now where’s the gay frogs and troony devs in XIV. I’ll wait
Just accept, WoW is made by trannies, for trannies
>Played XIV for 5 years, met 0 trannies so far
You can open the PF on any NA or EU datacenter and see dozens of LGBTQ night club ads. Why do FFXIV players deny this with such regularity?
>avoids the question again
lol just don’t join those groups. Simple as frick, never had to interact with them
WoW made a troony npc the God of the afterlife
>avoids the question
Your post doesn't contain a question. How did you not know that?
>now where’s the gay frogs and troony devs in XIV?
Delusion, very in line with the average WoW player
Here, I screenshotted your post for you again, since you somehow typed it without knowing what it said.
As you can see, there aren't any questions written in it.
>cries about being called out for a “minor typo” earlier
>uses same thing to avoid the question because he has no argument
I accept your concession, have a nice day
I didn't avoid a question, you just didn't write a question. Feel free to write a question if you'd like me to answer one.
Alright. Tell me, where the gay frogs and troony devs are in XIV?
I don't know. I haven't claimed that the game has anything like that. Are you sure you don't have me confused with a different anon?
So you admit that WoW is the troony game. Thank you for conceding, have a good day 🙂
I see, like, one on a given night. Ganker tells me it's dozens. Something doesn't add up here.
>Why do blah blah blah wah wah wah?
Go back.
you can go to any pf party or df duty and meet one right now
keep lying more and cope xivtroon
>join WoW party with a troony
>halfway through they start talking about how their HRT is going and how accepting this game is for people like them
>join XIV group, never hear troony talk once
Seethe with the facts, WoW is the defacto troony game and this cannot be refuted
No, GW2 end of dragons is worse than WoW.
>join XIV group, never hear troony talk once
not my fault you dont play your own game
all the trannies are playing xiv, have you missed the /vg/ threads? or the discord communities?
>join troony communities outside of the game
>get mad when you see trannies
>meanwhile in WoW you are forced to interact with troony NPCs who talk about how good and brave they are and then become the god of the afterlife
>dont interact with the community or any players
>play single player game
>"where are the players? where are the trannies? where is everyone?"
yea that sounds right about xiv
>not joining troony discords looking for reasons to be mad is avoiding the player base
>delusions I made up in my head is my argument
Ah, typical WoWbaby, don’t forget your HRT bottle and your Pelagos bumper sticker before you leave
>delusions I made up in my head is my argument
your whole argument is made of delusions xivtroon
>everything you say is wrong because it makes me feel sad about my troony game with troony gods
Meds and HRT, now.
>make up shit
>lie about everything
>LOL U MAD
Meds now
not my fault you dont play your own game
>XIV has 27 million subs
That's not how it works, by the way. The 27m figure is total number of registered players. WoW had 100m of those in 2014 lmao.
>source? i made it up
wtf FFXIV players are gamergators? I love FFXIV now
Could be worse. GW2 asks for $200 upfront and somehow manages to be worse than FF14 which is already dogshit
>GW2 asks for $200 upfront
How? I stopped playing a few years ago, but I paid around 20 bucks for both expansions during a sale.
You also only need to buy the newest expac, you get all the previous ones for free now. This homosexual is just false flagging.
GW2 is not a sub mmo though
All MMORPGS are trash. The most soulless genre
What's wrong with $15 a month? Pretty reasonable.
What's wrong is that you can get a much better experience elsewhere for much less. WoW asked for this sub but they originally made it so endgame was another much more complex layer of progression in many other ways, therefore the sub to play was justified. FFXIV is basically not an RPG. There's not really a reason to keep playing or anything in the game that justifies its price tag.
The situation is that unless its a single player game, you won't get a game as polished and complete as 14 for that money.
You can say some gacha F2P bullshit is better but lets be real, if you unironically enjoy those games as solely a f2p player then your taste is already trash and those games eventually asks for too much of your time of simply more money.
The polish is syphoned for ffxvi after this trash pandemonium tier
And then the game got a cash shop, you have to pay to change the appearance of your character, there's bi-yearly fully priced expansions, you have to pay extra per MONTH for storage space. All this while the game gets less and less content then ever and lets exploits and shit be in the game for months and months without updating it because it's not a problem in JP
>$15
it's only $12.99 though. the $15 only lets you have 40 characters as opposed to 8, which makes absolutely 0 sense in a game where there's nothing but hindrance with no gain to have more than 1 character
even if you buy in bulk the lowest you can go is $12.99, so no one should be using standard as opposed to the entry sub
doesn't change the fact that ff14 is a jrpg with a chat window built in
And the best single-player Final Fantasy since IX.
this
what exactly are you paying for with the monthly sub?
because i fricking doubt all that shit requires so much money
servers nowadays are as cheap as it gets an F2P games handle way more players without the need for so many Data Centers and worlds or other garbage and without P2W shit, XIV already has a cash shop so having both it and sub fee is unacceptable
90% of shit you will be doing in this game is single player, if you removed all MMO aspect it would be a fine jRPG still
>servers nowadays are as cheap as it gets
No they are not. They are more expensive today then they were 10 years ago because of the capacitor/chip shortage.
you're paying the $13 for the promise that they'll keep adding content, not to socialize. They could take the "online" part of the game's title out and it'd be fine.
again, plenty other games add content without sub fees and rely on cash shops or other non-intrusive, non P2W means
The important thing is that SE can fund lots of other non-Final Fantasy games again.
a _good_ jrpg
XIV has some of the most fun co-op PvE content among theme parks. There is only a few high end duties I would say are not designed to be fun, namely DSR.
How about the 400 hour story? Is that good co-op?
Story content is chill fun. Carrying 7 shitters through a story trial can be a real rush if you are into panic healing.
I love putting a traffic cone triangle on my head as a tank and getting a whole party of sprouts through Endsinger.
>mfw the ones that die from the tankbuster
I love getting Endsinger in trial roulette. While the fight is easy, the presentation is top notch and I enjoy dodging the planet mechanic.
For me it's the theme.
It's ok but it wasn't able to top the king.
It's not Royal Menagerie if 6 people don't get punted into the void by the first Tidal Wave.
To this day I still think Shinryu is the magnum opus of this game's casual fight design.
Everything is just executed so perfectly - the pacing is superb with a fairly easy first phase that teaches you some of the mechanics in a safe environment, leading into a non-braindead add phase that then gets into the final phase with the bombastic music and all the mechanics you learned in phase 1 on a larger but more dangerous arena.
The final phase itself is literally perfect, the gimmick that almost every mechanic revolves around people spreading out in a fight where the arena size dwindles over time is great, not to mention the way Shinryu zips around makes it feel way more dynamic than if he just stayed in one spot the entire time like most other giant bosses.
It's also constantly throwing new shit at you one after the other with no breaks, the moment one mechanic resolves you either have another mechanic right after, a tank buster or the tail to deal with. I can think of few non-EX or savage fights that felt as good to play as Shinryu, which sucks because I think the extreme version has almost none of this stuff present, they completely neutered everything that made normal mode so satisfying.
Also pandemonium frick lahabrea and endwalker designers
Pandemonium would be 100x more engaging of bosses still had Eden sized hitboxes. Listening to crying meleegays was a mistake in 6.0 when they made bosses huge and was a mistake in 6.08 and 6.1 when they overtuned every melee job.
Would be 100x better if they design the fricking castlevania tier 1 like alexander again and stop using the same dancing stack spreads and groups in all bosses
>namely DSR
>First Thordan phase has the boss untargetable for half of it
>This is the phase you have to see every pull since it's the first one
They had the pacing right with TEA, idk why they fricked it up so badly by leading one of these moronic start-stop phases.
Thats all I ever wanted.
>ff14 is a jrpg
i wish
As compared to a bad RPG with a chat built in like other MMOs. World PvP is fricking dead and you know it. World content is dead. It has been a themepark genre for more than a decade, wake up.
nah, even mmos that have been deeply watered down and streamlined like WoW still have more multiplayer and rpg elements in them than FFXIV does.
for example, questing with friends in WoW actually provides an advantage in gameplay. in FFXIV you'll just end up watching cutscenes in silence together.
World quests? That's the final bastion of "True" mmos? The fricking terrible side content nobody likes?
Are you illiterate? Try reading my post again.
and thank fricking christ for that, mmos are heinous garbage and it's unfortunate that it's technically one
Nah, MMOs offer by far the best large scale PVE available in gaming.
is this a joke? mmos have the worst pve in existence
I could maybe understand if you said pvp but even then that's still wrong when there's a dozen other genres that do it better
>is this a joke?
No, it's just the objective reality of the situation.
>mmos have the worst pve in existence
No, they have the best large scale PVE in gaming, by far. If you put an mmo boss in Dark Souls the players would sperg out that you have to do literally anything other than pressing roll and r1.
I don't know why you brought up dark souls but you've either never played any actual games or are moronic, though it's likely both.
I've played more games than you, and MMOs objectively offer the best large scale PVE in video games. You haven't provided any counterexamples yet, because you can't.
Monster hunter, now stop embarassing yourself. This is your last (You) from me.
Monster Hunter is not large scale. Even World maps aren't really that big.
Kulve Taroth and Safi'jiiva are the only "large scale PvE" Monster Hunter has
it's not even large scale
it's regular 4 player hunt
>Monster hunter,
Monster Hunter isn't large scale PVE, so you're already wrong. Moreover, the mechanics are enormously easier than mmo boss mechanics, and the gameplay is enormously easier than mmo classes.
Behemoth and Extremoth were a nice reality check for the Dark Souls castaways that came to Monster Hunter because it was "so hardcore omg"
>the mechanics are enormously easier than mmo boss mechanics, and the gameplay is enormously easier than mmo classes.
>the mechanics are enormously easier than mmo boss mechanics, and the gameplay is enormously easier than mmo classes.
That's correct, I'm glad you've conceded.
Even if we somehow pretended that XIV's million button jobs are the standard for MMO class design, at the end of the day a combat system where the actual combat never impacts you or the enemy's state beyond dead or not dead can never have as much depth or challenge as one that does. At the end of the day once you do a fight in XIV once you've seen everything it has to offer, there's no unpredictability, no enemies that adapt to your tactics or try to dodge out of the way, nothing.
brings up Monster Hunter's Behemoth fight which should be the perfect showcase of how a braindead fight in XIV becomes instantly more challenging the moment the entities in the world stop being ghosts that just phase through each other and actually react to the environment and what's going on around them.
>at the end of the day a combat system where the actual combat never impacts you or the enemy's state beyond dead or not dead can never have as much depth or challenge as one that does
You're right, thankfully this doesn't apply to MMOs.
What the frick are you talking about? Of course it applies to MMOs.
You do a savage fight in XIV and it always goes the same way. Shiva doesn't fricking react to getting hit in the face with an axe and suddenly change her behaviour to punish it, nor does she ever try to dodge. She'll just always do the same rotation of mechanics as the player does the same job rotation while moving from side to side to avoid her predictable attacks.
Why would MMO bosses and enemies do any of that? That sounds fricking annoying. It's not a character-action game.
Cause that's interesting combat? It's what Monster Hunter does?
This argument is predicated on someone claiming that MMO combat is inherently superior to something like Monster Hunter when that just isn't true, it's repetitious and offers little to no depth.
your fault for getting into a "hurr apples r better than oranges" argument
Monster Hunter isn't a hotbar MMO and everybody trying to compare the two is a slack-jawed fricking ape.
>This argument is predicated on someone claiming that MMO combat is inherently superior to something like Monster Hunter when that just isn't true
It is, monster hunter has an incredibly limited range of boss and character mechanics. No one who has ever cleared a penultimate mythic boss would consider MH a more challenging game.
Go play your Rathalos EX trial and leave the rest of us alone.
The funny thing here is while Behemoth in Monster Hunter showcases the strengths of Monster Hunter's combat when applied in the context of a XIV fight, Rathalos EX does the exact opposite by showcasing how shit XIV's combat really is when you put it in the context of a real video game boss battle.
Then go play Blade and Soul or whatever for an MMO that doesn't have tab target combat.
Nah, I'll just keep playing this game without living under the delusion that it's somehow an example of excellent PvE video game content.
Feel better now?
Are you ever going to provide an example of large scale PVE that's better than mmos or are you going to keep filling up the thread with mouth diarrhea about Monster Hunter, which doesn't large scale PVE?
I'm not the anon who you were arguing with about that, I just jumped in the moment you seemed to claim XIV had more mechanical depth in its combat system than MH, which it doesn't.
I know nothing about Destiny 2 except my friend tells me it has the best gunplay in the industry.
It's a cool game as long as you don't expect Halo-level single player content from it.
Not that anon and I think this is a stupid argument to try and compare combat from two different genres, BUT as someone who played MH before going to XIV, I do find it funny how apparently annoyed XIV players got with how Rathalos works with his lack of emnity mechanics and random moves. Like, yeah, that's how Monster Hunter monsters work, it's not hard to deal with.
You're part of the reason why all damage is scripted. I fricking hate casuals ffs
WoW bosses have all kinds of randomness and reactive gameplay. Why are you just making up lies about video games? Tribalism isn't that important.
>boss puts mechanic on this person OR THIS PERSON
>look at how dynamic the bosses are!
Being both reductive and disingenuous isn't helping your awful argument.
>Make bosses cast paralyze on you to shout at the healer for an esuna.
WoW already does this sort of shit all the time. There's nothing about mmos that prevents combat from being designed this way, FFXIV just doesn't because the players sperg out about even 1 second of rotational downtime.
Even if the “reactive” gameplay was actually reactive, it does not matter if it is piss easy and gives you 15 minutes to call out and move where you need to be. I was falling asleep progging in SoD and Sepulcher Mythic. It is genuinely so easy and boring
>At the end of the day once you do a fight in XIV once you've seen everything it has to offer, there's no unpredictability, no enemies that adapt to your tactics or try to dodge out of the way, nothing.
I don't think this applies to *any* MMO in a way that actually matters. "Reactive elements" or "unpredictability" in these games tend to be random or semi-random shuffling around of its AI elements which is an extremely cheap way of introducing variance in its moveset.
>combat system where the actual combat never impacts you or the enemy's state beyond dead or not dead
this is how everyone here can tell you've never played an mmo.
an example off the top of my head is in WoW where there are literally dozens upon dozens of status affects that interact with player abilities and even the environment (ie. dispelling makes an add spawn, or drops a moving add mob onto the floor,etc.
It's some random moron shitposting just ignore them.
I knew you wouldn't have an argument.
>
I'm almost at the character limit though
So I can still play 12.99? It wouldn’t let me log in and I understood that the 12.99 was for trial accs. Can’t understand a word these homies say
Yes you can.
monthly fees are a relic of the past that people accept because it was always a thing with "hardcore" MMOs
FFXIV and WoW easily earn more from other sources now
Whatever man I still can't stop playing it. I need my MMO fix and this is the best one atm hands down.
Some IRL normie friends of mine started playing recently aswell and even they are having fun lol
monthly fees make me hate the game because i feel like i need to squeeze as much content as fast as possible from it instead of taking my time to make my payment worth it
that is only elevated by shit like waiting in queues etc.
>$15 a month
That a womb tattoo render or what?
It's the legacy tattoo your character has on their back if they are from 1.X
It's the mark of Venat's wiener when it hits the back of your throat.
HOT
>neck tramp stamp
Can you at least move it around?
No, but there is a command to make it invisible
Lame.
>It's the mark of Venat's wiener when it hits the back of your throat.
god i wish this happened to me
It's the mark that only legacy players have. Some players also think it may be Azem's sigil.
>Yoshida is such a Matsuno fanboy he takes from Vagrant Story
I wonder if there is some exclusive interaction shit with that in endwalker and the gods alliance when you fight the god of time
There is when you come to Sharlayan.
>15$ a month
Not sure what you're talking about OP
My god thank you, everyone saying "well dont treat it as an mmo treat is as a final fantasy game" other final fantasy games don't make me pay every fricking month for jack shit, also the story is the most boring generic shit ever, any "mmo" where the plot is that YOUR CHARACTER IS THE CHOSEN ONE is a game that was made into an mmo at the last fricking second, or just written by people with no self awareness in the slightest. honestly any MMO with a "main story quest" is just formulaically wrong, MMOs should give you a world to explore and experience and have adventures in, learning at your own pace should you want to, not a fricking 100%-on-rails generic piece of shit where every class feels the same and there's either no reason to group up with people or a dungeon finder does it for you(it's about 50/50 in this game, you can actually do dungeons with NPC parties(LOL) but I think bosses and raids and shit do need other players)
if you reply to me by saying I didn't do any of the endgame content you missed the point, a good game shouldn't try your patience for 400 hours before getting to the allegedly fun content
also FRICK SQUENIX for how they handled blue mage in this game, every class is homogenized dogshit but blue mage got actually murdered, most requested class in the game but dead on arrival, makes me wish the rumors about an FF11 remake were true just so people would frick off and play that instead
most sane wow player pretending to play ffxiv
seethe troony, I hate all MMOs equally, proof that ff14 is seen as better than wow despite them both being the same garbage is proof that the entire genre will be in hell for a very long time
>MMOs should give you a world to explore and experience and have adventures in, learning at your own pace should you want to
Subjective. I want that in my MMO's. That's why I prefer GW2 or FFXIV.
>a good game shouldn't try your patience for 400 hours before getting to the allegedly fun content
Those 400 hours were the part of the game to me, and I only sub when there is more story content to do.
People like different things than you. Deal with it.
That formula is never coming back. The reason FFXIV is a single player, chosen one story MMO is because of WoW, which streamlined a lot of shit and focused on story ever since Wrath.
XIV 1.0 was hated because it had a lot of "oldschool" MMO shit like no auction where you had to trade with players themselves and was basically fricking crucified for it because how DARE they not do everything as convenient and easy to minmax, 100% and finish as possible?
So Realm Reborn was basically remade from ground up and they admitted they basically looked at WoW as their Holy Bible on how to make an MMO.
The difference and advantage XIV had to WoW though is that since it was from ground up, they could use the convenience as their DNA, so it was a game always intended to be casual friendly instead of a game that tried to be hardcore but had to change it identity over the years. It allowed for a lot of shit that is objectively better, like the job system replacing the need to make shitton of alts.
I wish they bothered to make BLU relevant in all content, the idea of finding and learning spells in the overworld/in specific content would be so fun (esp. considering how boring all the other jobs are).
How would you improve the way spell acquisition works for BLU in XIV nowadays? Because I feel like as it is now it kind of sucks.
I wouldn't really change it too much but I'd let BLU be able to use the duty finder instead of having to set up BLU parties on PF. I think waiting for the mob or boss to cast the specific spell is tedious though, and it should just give you the spell when killing it regardless of if you've waited long enough (or had to cheese the enrage like the boss in The Burn).
>but I'd let BLU be able to use the duty finder instead of having to set up BLU parties on PF
You mean, to queue to find other BLUs? I guess that would make sense though the queues would probably be horrendous. Or do you mean like a general "BLU roulette"?
>I think waiting for the mob or boss to cast the specific spell is tedious though
I don't mind that, what I do mind is that it's not a 100% spell get chance once you see it. It's already enough of a ballache to find each spell without any clue as to what the spell is, only a zone, without considering that you ALSO potentially have to get hit by the spell multiple times before you get it.
If I didn't give up and just look up the spells online I'd probably still be roaming the overworld letting myself get beaten up by monsters. Or (more likely) I would have given up after like an hour or so.
I think BLUs should be able to queue in with standard jobs honestly, they could easily do that if they fixed the levels and ranks of spells so you could only have x amount of 5*,4*, or 3* spells (similar to triple triad) and change spell levels so they're appropriate to the level of the content you're doing. Also yeah it's stupid that it's a % chance and that the BLU guide isn't useful at all for overworld mobs (it would make sense for mobs that drop BLU spells to have an icon over their head, similar to quest and Hunt Log mobs).
>(it would make sense for mobs that drop BLU spells to have an icon over their head, similar to quest and Hunt Log mobs).
Or even just better clues, like the difference between the ARR and every other expansion sightseeing log.
Tell me what kind of spell it is, or give me a dumb riddle.
Or have a message like the 'mark' system when you start fighting an enemy.
>you sense you could learn something from this foe...
Doesn't even have to specify WHAT spell, just that you can. That'd be enough for me. As it is, you either beat your head against every mob in a zone multiple times until something drops, or you look it up online.
>I'd let BLU be able to use the duty finder
even if there was a blu-only DF, it would be shit
the reason BLU is limited is because you can find morons without skills doing shit they shouldn't.
and the devs are allergic to gatekeeping literally anything.
just make it so you have to have a certain amount of spells unlocked to access higher levels of content. doesn't really matter if they do their rotations poorly, standard jobs do that too.
>certain amount of spells unlocked
they don't even have jobstone be necessarity in DF anon, they dont and will not gatekeep anything beyond ilvl
What are your issues with BLU anon?
For me personally, the main 3 issues I have with it are
>shitty spellbook/acquisition mechanic, that's either a chore or a cheat
>not allowed in most content
>they nerf the super spells even in the overworld for FATEs and stuff
>a good game shouldn't try your patience for 400 hours before getting to the allegedly fun content
You can spot a wowbuck immediately when they say shit like this.
>wowbuck
as easily as we can spot a xivtroon
>refuses to reply after he gets BTFO for the moron he is
>continues to post and reply to other people to defend his WoWpride
Is this the power of wowgays?
Nanamo is best girl
not happy shes with us in the stupid dungeons. shes a piece of shit and worst city state leader.
You will enjoy your adventure date with Nanamo.
>Merlwyb outright admits to breaking treaties with the beastmen almost as soon as she makes them so she can steal their land, and when they inevitably retaliate she just sends you in like a Mafia goon to beat them into submission.
>But Nanamo is worse than that.
All arealm reborn leaders are shit only worth it was ishgard and lazy devs didnt add it as fourth faction shit , i still dont understand why players simps for raubahn he is a mutt roe nigher that was the bodyBlack person of nanamo as ilberd said
the WoL is a psychopath that will go along with the alliance shenanigans just so he can beat another primal to death
>when Varis called them lying homosexual before dropping 80 IQ himself over a smoke break
but merlwyb big lady mommy
Our admiral takes tough decisions out of necessity to protect us.
I like it when she disguises herself as a commoner and sells her body on the streets of Ul'dah
What a bawd.
>Ride on his "Shoulder"
Well that's a new one
Nanamo is for the WoL alone. Enough with your slander, Monetarist scum.
i played from heavensward up to post msq of shadowbringers in 2 months of subs, im so burned out of the game but i want to play endwalker now, frick me this game is too long but the story and characters are interesting, also i barely see it as a real game but more like a visual novel, this game is 90% reading and 10% fighting
Just step into PVP, anon...
no thanks, id rather spend my time playing the story and if im caught up ill cancel my sub and wait for the next expansion
literally the only thing i miss about ff14 is frontlines
the feast is dogshit
even then, onsal is literally the only good map, it was fun when that was the new map and it was the only frontlines being played but now it's on rotation
is it worth resubbing to ff14 just to play some pvp even if i don't have endwalker
It's the main reason I stay subbed. Also, the 6.1 PVP update is pretty neat. You may like the Feast replacement Crystalline Conflict.
yeah i really want to try crystalline conflict
i don't want to buy endwalker but i do want to play some ff14 pvp again, i'm torn
I don't think the PVP update is locked behind EW.
Oh nice, but SGE and RPR are locked, right? I'd kind of want to try those, damn.
RPR is fricked in pvp, not really fun to play.
SGE is only as good as its team.
I suppose they are though I have yet to play around with them. Like any PVP type game, there are a lot of options, but you usually just stick to a few to get really good at them and while I jumped around, I prefer MNK the best right now.
RPR's gimmick in PVP is its Limit Break that causes all enemies in range to lose control of their characters and slowly move in the direction they were pointing when you execute it for like 2 seconds. Dancer has a similar Limit Break. It's best used in conjunction with your teammate's Limit Breaks so you can do maximum damage while your foe can't heal themselves, run away. or pop their Guard.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/reaper/#pvp
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/dancer/#pvp
Sage's Limit Break pops a small AOE circle that heals your team when they stand inside of it and applies a DoT on enemies that come inside of it. Also, enemies attacking anyone inside the AOE who do NOT have the DoT do zero damage.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/sage/#pvp
>that heals your team when they stand inside
It doesn't.
Only give your team the buff that make them no damage if the enemy team doesn't get the debuff.
You guys should get killed along with that junkshit netcode of gamgbang pvp mode
I can't tell what you're doing
That's the best part.
oh ok its a SAM LB, I for some reason read it as Frontlines BLM
Everytime I try this shit in Frontlines I only ever bag one dope. Still find SAM pretty fun, like a MNK that actually does damage.
People are wise to SAM these days. I don't play SAM, but I'd guess your best bet is to use its LB only defensively. So, only use it when you're in trouble and trying to get away or something.
>mfw i just cast aquaveil on myself and live through that shit
Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.
They use chiten, it's SAM defensive buff that reduce damage taken by 25%, also damage anyone who hit them, but more importantly, put a debuff on anyone that hit the SAM that make their Limitbreak Zantetsuken, eat out 100% of the enemy HP.
So all they had to do is pop Chiten, guard, everyone around him hit him stupidly, and pop limit break once guard is off to kill everyone around him.
>stuns you immediately after guard
oh no sorry you ded
>playing utter shit-myself baby mode with free one-shots to feel like a big man
Pathetic.
That webm is of a SAM not a NIN
once you're caught up with everyone else and experience content releases at the intended pace it's not as bad but yeah the new player experience is kind of fricked with the amount of catchup you have to do
i pay 10€ a month and only sub when a big content patch drops. my reason for subbing is also the "unneeded MMO shit" and not the single player story mode
It's so fricking weird that we're back to Wrath being the good MMO and FF14 being the bad MMO again. We've gone full circle with no changes.
MMOs are fricking dead.
Wrath was bad MMO tho.
It was the final nail in the oldschool MMO coffin:
>dungeon finder
>cinematics and "story"
>all the cross-realm shit
>MMOs are fricking dead.
>giving money to the japanese
>giving money to SQUARE ENIX
You people are so dumb it's unreal.
I'd rather give my money to the Japs. Especially seeing as the other option is Blizzard
Square is arguably the most woke and pozzed of the big Jap companies though.
It is only a matter of time until some next patch changes Male/Female to Bodytype A/B.
>Square is arguably the most woke and pozzed of the big Jap companies though.
Not really.
Name one who does more woke shit?
They literally make a nignog female protag game to pander to westerners.
ArcSys and shit like Bridget doesn't count because they are small. We are talking "having own E3 booth/presentation big" here. Square Enix is easily the most pozzed and SJW company out there. Their main FF singer came out as non-binary as well.
Capcom
Why do elezen players hate trannies?
You should see the average Duskwight player
Based af, and I'm saying that despite being a worlo waca player and believing that FF players are complexed cultists.
>Square is arguably the most woke and pozzed of the big Jap companies though.
No, the higher-ups are just complete morons that keep trying to jump on every imaginable bandwagon and bleeding money along the way.
I seriously doubt any of the 60+y.o. out-of-touch jap businessmen actually give a ship about wokeness.
>I seriously doubt any of the 60+y.o. out-of-touch jap businessmen actually give a ship about wokeness.
That applies to literally every company though
If you think suits running Blizzard or MS or any other big western company are as woke as the blue haired HR prostitute they hired, you are moronic.
>giving money to SQUARE ENIX
Yes!
Man, in hindsight, WAR really got the short end of the stick with EW.
>GNB got a 1200 potency GCD on a 60sec CD that can crit/DH
>DRK got a double stack 600 potency oGCD that's also up every 2min for raid buff that can crit/DH
>PLD got its Confiteor buffed to 1000 potency and get its magical burst window buffed once again
>Meanwhile WAR got a puny 700 potency that auto crit/dh every min
>The only meaningful buff it got for its burst (it's strongest point) is a fricking 10 potency increase to fell cleave
SE really don't want WAR to have good damage again...
Too busy making DRK a glorified DPS with tons of HP patch by patch until it'll just outperform everyone at everything.
Really hard fix the main issue of drk oblation and tbn until 7.0- moron designer
Don't forget that the patch that should have make WAR burst stronger by giving a damage bonus to their IR/IC auto crit/DH actually make them even weaker LMAO
What? WAR basically can auto-heal now.
I want to see big numbers again.
My SGE hit harder than my WAR for godsake
Doesn't WAR have big numbers for a tank? I don't know since the numbers are basically meaningless to me, I just like the noises when you go Bloodwhetting > Infuriate > Chaotic Cyclone or whatever the move is called.
WAR strongest GCD is 700 potency but its fricked by tank damage, hitting Primal rend on a dummy is like a 28-29k damage
Meanwhile, my GNB double down which has the same gear and stats as my WAR, crit for 42k.
Crit, not even crit/dh.
it just feels bad, man.
That sucks, but on the other hand you can't really 'feel it' in anything that matters. Like I savage raid, I put in BiS as my static suggests but I can't really feel any difference in how fast the boss goes down even when getting the next tier of gear.
That's one of the worst parts of the game is the lack of feedback. Like I mentioned before, it can feel great in terms of sound effects and feedback when you nail a bunch of enemies with an AOE while in Infuriate + Bloodwhetting/Nascent Flash, but that's one of the few moves in the game that really feels like you did something.
Numbers are the shittiest way to convey attack feedback.
I mean, that's not necessarily true, the problem is XIV has had stat creep up the ass so the numbers are meaningless now.
Back in the day when the average DPS was 500 you had big damage thresholds like 1k or 10k which felt great to surpass with the most powerful skills in the game, but now even your basic auto attacks do 10k damage so it feels meaningless to see a Fire IV hit for 67,934.
That's just what happens if you have so many levels and have to balance them so there are meaningful differences between 10 levels or so.
Anyway, even if the numbers are small I dislike them as a means of telling you how well you're doing. Any game that has pop-up damage numbers I turn off, if it'll let me do it. It's lazy.
The game doesn't even tell you how much health the boss has with a numerical value, so it's not even a useful tool for that.
>WAR can't do everything better than the other tanks
>WAR have it so bad
Damn you people are entitled whiny shits
Black person, game is all about damage.
Who the frick cares if WAR can heal themselves in a dungeon.
WAR do the same relative dps as GNB while still having the best self heals in the game
Parse homosexuals are less than the dirt beneath my boots.
I hope criterion dungeons makes drks eat gangbangs and dies continuosly and cry cope and seethe
Real DRK mains are bad malera groomers anyway. Every other person playing DRK is an omnitank who is only playing it because it's good right now and will swap to whatever is best for Criterion Dungeons when the time comes.
Nah I like DRK, it was my main until pretty recently. I don't play Au Ra.
Femlala player here, DRK has been my main tank since forever. It will never reclaim the glory of the HW days but it's still the most fun tank even in its gimped form.
I can't solo treasure maps on the other tanks, so WAR has that going for them.
>constantly see people shitting on female Miqo'te players
well then they shouldn't have made catgirls the objectively best looking and best designed race in the game
or maybe i should play the fricking moronic potato midget race who only trigger in me unreasonable hatred and rage and i have a huge need to just smash their big moron heads like watermelons
other options include looking like a flaming homosexual or some weird skin color Hulk clone
at least with Miqo'te you can make an interesting looking/feral/edgy female character
>unneeded
your life is also unneeded moron
Just wait until 2029 when they release ARR Classic alongside 10.0 for an actual MMO experience.
They didn't do it for FFXI after 20 years, I doubt they're going to do it for XIV.
probably because XI coming out now would go down like a lead fart
I'm gonna make Y'shtola a mom.
God I want Yshtola to ride me.
>literally 0 personality: the character
>devs add 1 or 2 joke interactions where she does sexual/mommy jokes with your character
>suddenly every troony goes OMG MOMMY MOMMY FRICK ME WITH YOUR FUTA wiener MOMMY
It's sad that Y'shtola completely overshadowed Minfilia and Lyse.
>dress like a prostitute
>call it character development
Lyse is for the occasional threesome.
They ruined Lyse after ARR.
Lyse fricked up really in stormshit along with the writer behind the schizo idea of namechanging
Lyse basically spreads her legs for the WOL. Takes a special kind of autist to deny her advances and then not have her musclehead brain try to rape him but who knows, the end of SB to the end of EW was some clusterfrick and now that things calmed down she might try.
>Lyse
Thancred was the only person who gave a frick about Minfilia, because I sure as hell didn't.
I miss Minfillia so much
actual Stacy
0 personality: the character
Herbpersonality was being a snarky nerd. Even before ShB I wanted her to read scientific studies into aether-related topics to me even though I'd barely understand them.
I genuinely cannot express how much joy the 6.1 scene in the Restricted Section brought me.
meant to reply to this
This. I hope she fricks off to the first when we finally figure out a way to go back there. I don't dislike her, but holy frick, Yshtola gays are so fricking annoying.
she's never going away, she's basically the game's mascot
Canon love interest.
What are you, a poorgay?
he has a point though
FFXIV is praised because it's basically a single player FF with great story and some MMO tacked on, what exactly are we paying for there?
Well the game started out with just 500 hours of content and now it's up to like 8000 so you tell me.
95% of that time are generic shitty MMO fetch quests tho
I mean, isn't that the same for most JRPGs? Only they break them up with boring random encounters.
Not really, I'd wager if you're trying to get your money's worth and actually doing everything in the game a majority of your time is gonna be spent either in raids, messing with the crafting and gathering system or doing dungeons to level combat classes after you've exhausted every quest.
Despite how it's advertised by the people who play it the quests are a very small part of the overall package in XIV, it's just that they're the main focus when you're leveling your first few combat jobs.
Y'shtola has a new boyfriend, his name is Zero
Does cum contain aether?
Well whether it does or not I'm sure you could convince Zero rather easily than you'd "mutually benefit" from fricking her
There are several pictures to that effect
but Ganker said Zero was a boy
Zero is a girlband she likes takingg it up the ass.
They're both built for BWoLC
>take Maria of the Astral Clocktower design
>give her Gehrman's scythe
SUCH AN ORIGINAL DESIGN
Call her zero like your average edgy anime girl, more funny a crappy game called ff type zero got the same character and name
It's 15$ a month, then you have to pay extra if you want to p2w and get more storage space and more ventures with retainers. Then if you want any good looking outfit you have to pay 30$ to buy one on the mogstore as they stopped giving outfits for "free".
Then you have to buy a 50$ expansion bi-yearly.
Oh and if you ever want to change your characters appearance you have to pay 10$
Don't forget $15 a month for access to subscription mods to have access to dog girls
Shame you can't level up how you want and just get railroaded into doing the MSQ to unlock literally anything.
What?
Everything being locked behind the MSQ sucks is my point.
WoW approaches leveling differently than XIV.
Quests aren't locked behind anything beyond your level and ability to reach their physical location on the map, so you have a plethora of ways to approach leveling your character that's not just following a particular quest chain - i.e. you can just spam dungeons until you get to max level and immediately start raiding, or if you want you can power level until you're high enough to start questing in the current expansion zones instead without doing any quests prior to that.
By contrast in XIV even if you wanted to just spam dungeons to max you'd have to do the story quests just to unlock said dungeons and then you'd still be locked out of everything until you beat the story, it's much more railroaded and less freeform.
This is the obvious truth. People somehow spin the railroading into being a good thing. Imagine new players trying to play together through this mess.
I'd say there's merits to both approaches.
Ironically I think it's apt to compare them to comics and manga.
WoW takes the comic approach where you're not really meant to read everything and just pick up the isolated stories that interest you.
XIV is a lot more like manga where it expects you to have been following from the beginning in order to understand what's going on and get the full picture.
Cant wait one piece shit ending being worse than twiteion
Besides a crap reborn until stormshit you got the important dungeons for levelling rest is optional shit to do to cap the gear token the only missable shit is ignoring raids, but tbh the normal raid roulette xp gain sucks along with the tutorial instances roulette
>Quests aren't locked behind anything beyond your level and ability to reach their physical location on the map
That's not always true
I remember clearly being stuck in dragonblight with no quest anywhere because I skipped a previous requisite
Hello, please transfer to Excalibur and join my FC.
I fail to see what dick size has to do with joining my FC.
4 inches rock solid!
God Mi'Qote girls are just BUILT to be pumped full of whipped cream until they explode
B-but I'm lactose intolerant... Oh Nyooo~~
I mean, it won't be a problem for very long.
What benefits do I get for transferring to Exal and joining your FC?
A lot of nice friends, free onions for leveling your chocobo, we do movie nights every Friday, we play games together pretty regularly.
>No Fenech
That's a requirement for most EU statics, the french are beyond fricking awful at this game.
The French are beyond fricking awful at every game. Every time I have encountered a frog in any game they're at teh bottom of the leaderboard.
>no black mages
yo frick dis racis piece of shit
>no couples
>no french
>no women
>no trans
>no gay
HOLY BASED
>RDM only
>we need a raise machine because we can't do trios
why bring RDM for the res machine and not SMN?
>Only the worst caster
>Can't bring the best healer
cringe
I'm guessing they already had SMN/AST.
how much of a "static" is it that they're looking for tanks, melee dps, a caster, and a healer. Sounds like 2 people lmao
>1. it's a burger DC
>2. my sub runs out on the 28th
sorry bro
We have a lot of people from all over but the majority are from the US, yeah. I hope you find what you're looking for in an FC if you decide to resub, friend!
God I hope so too, but I'm stuck with frenchgays on Chaos so that's unlikely.
Good luck in your search as well.
I'm sorry for your loss. If you do decide you wanna give us a try later on, here's a link to our lodestone page, we're an entirely Ganker FC.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/freecompany/9236460623271952313/
>an entirely Ganker FC
post programmer socks and I'll consider it
That's not video game related and I'm trying not to present this image of myself to my FC.
I'll consider it, my current FC is dead and I don't know anyone on my DC anymore since my friends quit playing.
Honest to god I'm just not having fun, bros.
The story is enjoyable, but is very much a visual novel with no player input - and makes me wonder why I'm paying a sub to watch something I can see on YouTube
Dungeons are only ever "OK", they're more spectacle than enjoyable and really just boil down to avoid red circles
Combat is mediocre, and every class has a static PVE rotation that you won't ever deviate from. Plus there's no customization or variety, so I don't have anything for my character to "work" towards becoming
Open-world content is non-existent and completely empty, and maps only exist for you to move from Point A to Point B to do your MSQ
PVP... is probably the worst I've ever played in an MMO, and this is after a supposed revamp.
Yup, you're playing FF14.
Sex with Barbariccia
God I want her to sit on my face
WINDY
BITCHES
I want her to step on me.
Need a version of this pic with Barbariccia in it. She literally says "Know your place" at one point.
I would never keep playing this game if I didn't do a lot of ERP
bump
Fine by me.
Not like anyone else beyond DQ is making straightforward JRPGs with moderate to high production values anymore.
Is auto demolition on now?
>static member had a complete mental breakdown, unfriended everyone, left our linkshell, ect because our raid leader was "being toxic" despite him doing quite literally fricking nothing
Excellent
The only reason to play this game are the story and the raids. The casual side-content has less engaging gameplay than children's games like mario and zelda, so only literal moronic people do that stuff.
>TPS is disbanded because they lost two world's first and were utterly exposed as worthless without their datamining 9th man. You can't make this shit up.
Watching TPS implode was immensely satisfying.
I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but I've been savage raiding since ShB and I have next to no knowledge of raiding 'culture'/popular statics or stuff like that.
It really doesn't matter for 99% of players, and at this point it's more or less just streamer drama.
Female lalafell thighs and tummy.
This anon knows what's up.
Love that outfit and have had it on my SCH since I found it.
Post percentages
https://lalachievements.com
frick frick frick
I really want the stupid red allagan ball mount
but getting 200 frontlines victories seems like extreme chinese water wiener and ball torture.
Just do the roulette a few times a week, preferably when it's ice or Mongolia map since those give you mounts for winning too. I think it's "just" 100 wins for the basic ball that other anon got. Which is still a huge pain in the ass to get, to be fair.
I guess. I've been trying to gauge interest in a PVP group in our FC to see if we can just spend a bit of time grinding it out, after all a problem shared is a problem multiplied and it'd be a bit easier to deal with while talking bullshit with friends.
That's a decent idea. You can actually make a difference in Frontlines with 4 people who can play.
>who can play.
That's also a problem, I fricking suck at PVP.
Yeah, if I'm honest Minfilia was probably the scion I was least concerned with, I've always found the obsession some seem to have with her a bit odd. I mean I guess blonde woman big booba, but apart from that?
>I fricking suck at PVP.
Time to start learning then, with 4 people who are all throwing you'll just make it worse.
>Gather 4 PLD friends
>Go when it's the ones where you capture nodes, all day
>Cheese it doing PLD cover chains between you four
>???
>Profit!
my rarest anything is the pizza emote from the grubhub offer that didnt work for 70% of people
It's honestly kinda sad considering how much I've played this game.
Good God.
>number one autist is a Lala
I am in no way surprised by this
I kneel.
Damn, well done. I'm nowhere near that. Only started playing just before ShB if that makes a difference, though.
I guess - are there any good guides to it?
He 100% bots
I'm actually surprised I have this many achievements done. I never really achievement hunted.
I'm higher in the ranks than I though I would be honestly.
>doing ucob on pf
>we got to golden bahamut and wipe
>our dps is crazy enough to even skip divebombs
>a homosexual says he needs to go
NO what the frick you dont do this wtf. This Black folk know nothing? How the frick you leave like this???
gimme some edgy fricking screenshots
*touches scar*
wtf doom music just started playing
Thanks anon. I think people sleep on the bearsmaw/bearsliege (the ARR PVP gear as a whole in fact) too much. pic related is the helmet for the hawksliege (MNK)
I want to hug and kiss her so much
Why the hell does she want me to frick her outside in New Gridania?
I desperately want to frick midnababy.
bad b***hes only
Surely they will fix bunny hats for next expansion, right?
no, it's more like
>you can wear hats now, but it's locked behind cancerous end game raiding now, have fun in PF! :^)
Y'shtola Rhul has a problem. She's addicted to smooches. It started innocently enough. A little bit of harmless daydreaming here and there. A desire for few stolen kisses. But before she knew it, she was hooked. She needs smooches. She craves them. She can't get enough.
But her addiction took over when she started working as the leader of a weird cult. She would go to the lahee swamp every night, and she would always make sure to get a good view of the Night's Blessed. She would watch the other girls kissing and handholding, and she would get so lonely for WoL. She would start frothing and foaming, and she wouldn't be able to stop.
She started trying to smooch WoL, and she loved it. She would do anything WoL asked, but he was autistic. She would even go to his room in the middle of the night, and she would always try to make WoL give her a good smooching but he just nodded affably.
But it wasn't enough. She wanted more and more smooches. She started sending more signals to WoL, but he still didn't get it. She didn't care if he had good parses or not. She just needed his smooches on her.
She started to get a reputation as a smoochaholic, and she hated it. She disliked being the lovestruck cat who would do anything for a smooch.
She knows it's wrong. She knows she should be focusing on her studies and her duties as a Scions of the Seventh Dawn. But she just can't help herself. She needs WoL smooches. And she'll do anything to get them.
Even if it means risking everything she holds dear.
Non savage endgame raids:
>nooo, we don't have to help you out newbie, that would spoil the mechanics, but we do have time to type out all of this condescending shit to you before we pull, go watch a guide or something
Savage endgame raids
>we can't let you join our static, you don't know the mechanics and have 10000 hours of experience with this instance. You say you watched a guide? Not good enough, we all watched a guide but it still took us hundreds of tries before we managed to get a clear
True story, actually happened to me about a week ago.
>it still took us hundreds of tries before we managed to get a clear
This is such horseshit, the difference between progging as a newbie to the fight alongside 7 other shitters vs progging as a newbie alongside 7 people who have it on farm is night and day - you can clear that shit in 5 pulls after watching a guide.
I've been barking up this tree since 2.0 ended but I've always asserted that the community has always been the worst part of FFXIV. Not the balance, not the gameplay, not the grind, not the lack of endgame content, etc. The community USED to be good. But no longer.
For some moron reason my static dont like to watch guides zoomers for some reason are scared of focusing for 10 minutes on a video for some reason . But they love to wait for one of the people who can actually watch one to explain everything to then. I just dont get it.
>what is essentially a single player jRPG
The sad thing is that FFXIV even does a dogshit job AT THAT
>text box
>npc disappears
>teleport somewhere else
>text box
>npc disappears
>teleport somewhere else
>text box
>npc disappears
>teleport somewhere else
>go to opposite side of map to kill or gather 3 things
>text box
>npc disappears
>teleport somewhere else
>text box
>npc disappears
>teleport somewhere else
What hot garbage. In JRPGs you're actually doing things with your party. In FFXIV you're basically walking from point A to B rinse-and-repeat for 300 hours.
There's literally no reason to not make BLU a full job. This is a fact.
They would balance the skills, which would take away a lot of the fun cheese that BLUs have access to.
All the "fun" and "cheese" is already sanitized, anon. Wow you can kill 1 pack of mobs every 2 minutes? And only if you trade 2 spells for it that is less dmg to the boss? Wow. SE just dont care about dungeons anyway. They already revamped all the old ones to be super easy and corridor-like.
Considering that many of the spells mostly boil down to "deals 200-220 potency of damage and 50% less to nearby enemies" with a specific element and a gimmick there's not much to balance around, really.
You think you want it but you don't
Could the 12 beat the Nine Divines is a fight?
If Nald and Thal are separate entities, why aren't they the Thirteen?
Is it because FFXIII was dogshit?
>not designing your theology around expletives that are fun to say
coalescing of gods and cultures over time
hades and poseidon were the same person for a while among other quirks of who counts as a greek god
also because thal's balls is funny
>nine
I said what I said
Still funny to me that Ishgard worships your average Middie woman
Plump middle tiddies.
MIDDIES MIDDIES I LOVE MIDDIES!!!
>Look up porn of this game
>99% of it is of people's OCs
This kusoge isn't even good for jacking off
>continues to sleep
Thanks for helping me save the world you fricking lazy dinosaur
1º I play for free
2º I don't care about the Story
3º I'm here just to fish, cook, craft, and casually explore the world now THAT is epic.
The rest is just cashgrab shit.
I want to frick the brown stormblood cat
>they don't let you dress up M'Naago for doing the delivery quests
FRICK OFF
Frick, TIAS. I claimed her. She belongs to me now.
Too late frickboi, you can have the snake girls.
M'naago looks like she is secretly hoping the WoL will claim and her and take her aware from the shithole that is Ala Mhigo and needing to babysit Lyse.
That's like 3/4ths of the girls the WoL encounters.
Lyse is such a pain in the ass to deal with that Papalymo an hero'd. Let that sink in.
That is basically her custom delivery questline. Basically you go to her father and tell him to STFU. As far as the tribe is concern you already claimed her.
>"I'll avoid giving any definite answer about whether or not Zenos the chicken will make an appearance in-game but I can say that the stream turned out to be a great source of stimulation for thinking up future rewards," he said.
>Zenos the chicken
What?
https://www.gamesradar.com/wienererel-obsessed-final-fantasy-14-players-find-a-new-mascot-in-zenos-the-rooster/
Why did every expac feel like it was planned out in advance except for EW, in which they made it all up as they went along?
>Ascians do a convocation
>WoL gets a prank call
heh, fore'shadow'ing
The entire story was made up as they went along, no matter how much moronic players try to convince you everything was mapped out.
Venat is a Black person and time traveling done in EW was cheap, gay and unnecessary.
>in Graha's timeline WoL died before Shadowbringers
>he was never able to time travel to Elpis
>he never met Venat
So why were we chosen as WoL in Graha's timeline? Why did she care about us?
Blame this fricker right here. Time travel became pure bullshit the moment he got crammed into the crystal tower according to his keikaku.
I'd say maybe a 1/4th? I mean we don't have that many Ala Mhigan girls in the game, and I can only think of Minfillia and M'naago babysitting Lyse.
I meant moreso just wanting the WoL to claim them.
Nah alex story was already closed with him. Its the fujo chink that used him for no reason just go have the cat on the first. Then used it again for no reason at all to show us shit from elpis
>AND THEN
>FOR LITERALLY NO REASON
>FOR THEIR TIME TRAVEL PLOT, THEY REUSED THE ROBOT THAT CAN TIME TRAVEL
>BRAVO YOSHIDA
>BRAVO SQUARE ENIX
Does it hurt, Anon?
Wasn't Alexander's power existent because he was technically a Primal? How did Ironworks manage to recreate the power?
Alexander ultimately was a machine and the Tycoon is a magitek recreation of Alexander Prime. It's not impossible to recreate a primal's abilities with machinery, magitek, or even just being such an excellent mage that you scrape the end of a primal's raw affinity for their element. There's multiple fire wizards like Saurtovoir that can use Eruption, a spell from Ifrit, for example.
Mimicking an elemental magic spell and recreating fully functional time travel seems to be like apples and oranges though.
Even more so considering there was nothing to reverse engineer since Alexander went poof.
Alexander's time travel is magic at the end of the day.
>there was nothing to reverse engineer since Alexander went poof.
A century or two is a pretty damn long time to single-mindedly focus on recreation of a primal's abilities, and they had Omega's help.
Please correct me if wrong about this, but also in our timeline why is there no Emet? In Graha's timeline, why isn't their a Zenos? If we saved that timeline, does it really affect our timeline that we're in? This confuses me on many levels, but I just discount the game being for 16 year olds and wanna turn off my brain at some point.
WoL won at the Ghimlyt Dark in G'raha's timeline, and Zenos is insanely skilled, but isn't as powerful without his body.
Graha's timeline is the exact same as ours up until the end of Stormblood, where Garlameld was successful in releasing Black Rose.
Graha's timeline has a Zenos and an Emet. In fact Emet was successful in the 8th calamity and rejoined the First.
Graha's actions only effected our timeline. There's no indication his was saved or changed at all.
>There's no indication his was saved or changed at all
Then what was the point of it all
if I recall don't G'raha or Urianger mention the doomed timeline and just hand wave it as 'we just don't know what changed' ?
They were betting everything on the erasure of their own timeline by going back to fix things, since the First being rejoined was the most damaging Calamity the world had ever seen and almost resulted in Man's extinction.
We stopped the release of Black Rose in our timeline, and Graha got to adventure with us. So it all worked out in the end.
At least until Graha's timeline Zenos rips open a portal to our world.
>spoiler
Watch this happen and all hell breaks lose.
that would actually be interesting if it was like Bizarro Zenos who became a hero after watching us die an ignoble death by Black Rose and couldn't fight him again so he followed our example, that way the fujo get him back but the real Zenos from our world is still dead
Nah, he will come to us because of his hunt fetish. But the soul of our Zenos senses him and jumps into his body and absorbs his soul so our Zenos is basically back to life and joins the Scions for 7.0.
>A world where Zenos might be our actual friend rather than a schizo claiming we are friends
Bring him back just so he can get proper character writing and development please. The end of EW made me feel slightly bad for him, but in all he is a poorly written character.
He was a poorly written character in SB that got brought back to have 2 cool character moments so there was at least something positive associated with him.
For the love of god don't bring him back again.
"Simple" is not "poorly written"
Zenos being a single-minded monster with no higher motivations is something noted by both himself and other characters
>"Simple" is not "poorly written"
No, it's not.
Zenos is both a poorly written character AND a simple one, thanks for correcting that. It's not until EW where he becomes a simple character that's not poorly written.
he's badly written in stormblood but not endwalker because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
because he has no point in the story and isn't a husk devoid of anything that says ENOUGH and people jizz themselves for some reason
we even killed him as a god dragon and dude wanted a rematch because he was a sore loser
perhaps he could have been better written if he was in another expansion and not shitblood, but hey we don't have to worry about that because that's what happened
>he has no point in the story
- Garlemald has its own "Warrior of Light" equivalent in power
- Garlean royalty is objectively evil
- Between Zenos and Varis, Garleans are very aware of "Eorzean" powers like the Echo and turn it over to their own side
>wanted a rematch because he was a sore lower
Because he thought he peaked and he didn't, Endwalker is chasing that high by going 5000000 times higher
Shitblood was written by the same girl as Endwalker and Zenos would behave the same in any other expac as he does in Shitblood and Endwalker, projecting Stormblood's mediocrity onto Zenos as a character assessment is fricking baffling
>- Garlean royalty is objectively evil
solus was nice (well, kind of) until his kid died
varis is a certified moron and zenos doesn't have anything in his brain other than fight
stormblood was written by banri oda and ishikawa, notably almost all parts of gyr abania were written by banri and almost all parts of doma were written by ishikawa, funny how literally every single plot beat in gyr abania or involving a character from there like lyse is unbearable and it's only in parts of doma does the writing get tolerable
It's true that stormblood being shit and zenos being shit are two different things, but they're closely linked. Stormblood Zenos could have potentially been a good character but he wasn't, so they wrung what was left of him into an ok character for EW
Not the anon, but endwalker actually gives him some character, especially while he's dying and what he says to us. It was that that made me actually want him back so he could get futher development, but I guess thw way he was written it was more of a cationary tale of following a life of hedonism
When having to deal with Zenos, it felt like dealing with a special ed kid. Not his fault he's all messed up. Just please I want him to be fixed, but no of course he's not.
No. Zenos is dead. I gave him his "That, I can't deny." and he died happy. Let him stay dead.
What the frick are you even saying? Both Emet and Zenos exist in both timelines, the doomed timeline is the exact same as the one the game follows except for the part where you pass out in front of Elidibus in Zenos's body due to the Exarch pulling your soul away and Estinien has to rescue you.
The timeline stuff is confusing but at the end of the day there's a pretty simple solution - it's a stable time loop, G'raha's time travel shenanigans happen every time even if he himself comes from an alternate timeline.
here u go anon, nice and simple 🙂
GOD BLESS YOUR HEART ANON, THANK YOU
>EW was cheap, gay and unnecessary.
Plus the 'we now have the ability to warp reality to our will' I hope we get ShB level of consequences for this because too much deus ex machima pulls have been done and it felt annoying. If dubs, I say Emet or Zenos is coming back in between this and 7.0
>warp reality to our will
*while submerged in a bigass vat of reality-warping emotion juice at the ass end of the universe where nothing lives except memory golems
What the frick are you talking about? Both SB and ShB felt anything but planned out.
SB in particular feels like it had to condense two expansions into one so they could have an expansion dedicated to the shitty filler First content, it just so happened to be so much better written than the Source stuff that nobody cared that it was filler for most of it.
Realistically the actual plan should have been
>2.0 - Eorzea and Gaius
>3.0 - Ishgard
>4.0 - Ala Mhigo
>5.0 - Doma
>6.0 - Garlemald
>7.0 - Zodiark
I'd quit the game if I had to deal with an expansion dedicated solely to Mhiggers.
Casters, please put Surecast on your hotbar and actually use it.
Thanks.
built for holy matrimony
>ywn curl up with Y'shtola after sex on a seat by the window while the two of you sip tea and read on a snowy day in your Ishgard private house under a blanket.
who is that girl? the one atop of shotla.
(you)
i have a whole island to myself and tons of money, loved across the whole world and beyond, but i'm the loneliest man of all..............
Would 'shtola be open to doing anything the WoL wanted?
absolutely no anal or urethra stuff under any circumstances but pretty much everything else is fair game
No, you can complain in Newfound Adventure that you just wanted to take it easy and she laughs at you, next thing you know you're in the fricking void.
>Every night is marathon babymaking sex night with 'shtola
>Her endgame is to start her own damn seeker tribe.
>she is down for bringing in F'lhaminn and M'naago along to have an actual pool of genes
>Also willing to genderbend G'raha for you too.
You've really thought this.
that's the terrifying part of my brand of unironic autism: I don't need long to come up with this weird shit.
I understand.
So does she have a penis?
G'raha Tia sex
>it's WoW vs XIV pissbabies again
Can't you all just have a nice day already?
why? you want your lala porn thread back? go back to /vg/
lala porn gets way more traction on Ganker than it does /vg/
Yeah bro seeing you people fling shit at each other over imaginary subscription numbers is a really worthwhile way to spend a thread.
>Shadowbringers was peak FFXIV
For the story yes
For gameplay that was HW.
Current jobs in the cuckshed? MCH is a given.
Fricking all of them they're all garbage and you're a cuck if you enjoy any of the shitty ass jobs in the game at the moment.
With 5 weeks of gear, none of them. Dunno about PF, but frick PF.
Doctor Strange, no!
you're going to post that in every thread arent you?
>doesn't erase the underwear as well
shit pic
So PvP GNB exists solely for Frontlines, right?
PvP GNB is a pretty good harrier job and can weave in and out of combat. Continuation lets you get some sneaky kill-confirms with the extra attack and being able to mimic an enemy role for a themed ability makes you versatile. You're not the best at anything but you're another good frontliner and you can heal a little bit *in a pinch,* do some tanking with a slightly worse Holy Sheltron *in a pinch,* or get in a heavy hit *in a pinch.* Assuming of course the enemy team is composed of appropriate jobs for you to copy.
how every mf be acting when u the only one with a pack of gum
>alphy porn where he's not getting his bussy pounded
Weird.
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>https://twitter.com/LewdArcanist/status/1571316595481538560
god damn....I came
One more month until first batch of EW relics.
Please look good. And please don't just be the design contest weapons.
i wouldn't mind if they were design contest weapons, that gunblade is fly as frick and the shark jaw one was pretty cool
i'm mad the dragonsong swordspear didn't get higher and win, not that i'm mad another swordspear also won but because it doesn't stand out as much compared to the heavensward themed one
Design contest weapons will probably be pvp, and the joke ones will be Gold Saucer.
The joke ones will be first phase of manderville and you fricking know it or maybe last phase
DRK is kill
>DRK is killer
FTFY
Frick off
>holy doesn't do more damage against undead enemies
Elemental resistances are cancer in a rotation MMO.
it's just a bit sad tbh, especially since spells like saintly beam have that effect. it's not like healers have much going for them anyways in regards to a "rotation".
That's BLU which is the only point in the game where elements matter
>fire spell doesn't heal fire boss
ffxiv is not an rpg. Don't be fooled.
What does disbarring it from the genre actually accomplish, this is such a pissing contest.
>can't cast Raise on undead to instakill them
WOOOOOOOW
considering that'd only work on trash mobs since most bosses after the Aurum Vale are immune to those kind of effects that would be a fun interaction.
I feel like you'd get scrubs who would seethe and complain that they accidentally cast their raise on an enemy when they meant to rez someone.
yeah, maybe it'd be better if restorative spells dealt damage to undead instead, like cure or physick. still a fun idea though.
>make literally random FFXIV picture thread
>500 replies easily
why?
popular mmo
"i don't like it janny pls remove" is seethe
>15
ENOUGH ARGUING, MMO FRENS. WE MUST BAND TOGEHTER AND WIN OUR HOBBY BACK BY FORCING COMPANIES TO UNPOZZ OUR FAVORITE WORLDS AND FIGHT GLOBOhomosexual SEEPING INTO GAMING.
Why the frick do I need to pick a relic weapon to grind before they'll even let me into Bozja?
Incompetent devs.
>So you admit that WoW is the troony game. Thank you for conceding, have a good day 🙂
I haven't said anything like that. Read my post again.
Personally, I look forward to the new MH vs XIV rivalry.
I like 14 a hell of a lot more than monster hunter (I enjoy monster hunter a fair amount too though) but pretending mmo combat is good is something I will not abide for.
It's not like monster hunter's combat is perfect either, it's just miles above an mmo.
Go play Nioh 2.
I played CHAOS and that was made by the same people, right.
Yes and Nioh 2 is more of CHAOS and/or better.
I mostly played it because I liked the FF stuff but I have heard Nioh was good yea.
Did a Japanese game really include a pro-2A story!?!?
lots of conservative stuff in the game actually
MH combat peaks at 2 players. At 4 you just get sandbag beaters like the ol' HAME 4U lobbies
Pre-Flashpod nerf was the best MH.
I just want a more interactive game. Frick rotation troony shit. Make bosses cast paralyze on you to shout at the healer for an esuna. Make ast give haste again. Frick you Yoshi.
PVP, friend.
Pvp doesnt feel like anything. No one cares about it because it feels like a joke minigame. In a good way ofc
>Make bosses cast paralyze on you to shout at the healer for an esuna
Less than half of the healers I encounter will bother to cleanse removable debuffs, unless it's Doom or something.
Make healer remember they're not dps. Make all damage not scripted, more things to esuna, i know ma6be resistances and weakness would not work but make the fcking game more interactive between the members other than reduct the dmg taken or increased by a %. Hell people hate the pacification meme but it was an interaction between jobs.
Anyone else not care about modern MMOs but just have an intense visceral hatred towards WoW players for how badly the game fricked this industry?
The nolifer games still exist. Their populations are small for a reason (except EVE, maybe).