Both the fliers are useful in Genwun OU, albeit as surprise options.
Moltres wreaks havock if you can get rid of the enemy's ground/rock, and Charizard does surprisingly well with a sword dance set. >muh fanfic
It's gen one, it's the only meta.
>speed crits >agility wrap >psychics have zero reliable counters
this meta sucked and you're a homosexual every meta sucks, this franchise was never good
NTA bc newer gens have very exaggerated designs at times but the Team Star Bosses are a bad example when they’re meant to be punk/scene/general teenage rebellion inspired and even the game itself makes fun of Melia’s getup
Nu Pokemon human designs have become consistently overdesigned, and pokegays don't even notice. I recently saw a poster defend Avery's design, for frick's sake.
Someone was wrong on the internet? Whaaaaaaaat! Thays crazy man, I've never seen that before. Better post about it daily and let it define your future opinions from now on.
>boomer is slippers >turtle enough for the turtle club >Elesa hit the wall and knocked it down >The Monarch >toothpaste commercial gijinka >Kevin Flynn in all his CGI glory
there were several pokemon that probably should have had secondary typings and just didn't
the other one that stands out is golduck not being water/psychic
Thats not fair, every gen has at least one really good fire type. Gen 3 had Camerupt which was incredibly based, but gen 1 has Arcanine, gen 5 had Chandelure, gen 9 has a lot of good fires. Every gen has some.
Fuxk yeah bro. It's also in SV if that matters to you. >only x4 water and x2 ground weakness >5 resistances, 1 immunity >slow, bulky, mixed attacker >actually only has x3 water and x1.5 ground weakness with its ability
Camerupt is a long time bro, I love that funky little dude, it's a hugely underrated mon.
>Zard
still the best starter, but getting cringier by the day >9tales
Never had one because I 1st played Red and then FireRed. It seems pretty okay >Arcanine
underwhelming. Just learns Flamethrower at lvl 10000 or something and this is how long your stuck with Growlithe >Rapidash
underrated, but please, don't overrate it. >Flareon
my favourite Eeveelution >Magmar
the worst Fire type >Moltres
the best Fire type
>Just learns Flamethrower at lvl 10000 or something and this is how long your stuck with Growlithe
It learns it at 40, which is not that big a deal at all. You can still use the TM on it if you're crazy about it.
It's not a fire type thing, getting powerful STAB moves was very uncommon for everyone besides normal types in gen 1. That was just the game design back then.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, it's just shit balance.
You have earlier Ice Beam and Thunderbolt in gen I. Fire types (among many types) were chosen to be awfu.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, you're overreacting. There's other fire types thst get it earlier. It was meant to be a later and stronger move bevause it is in that gen.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, you're just trying to deny the facts.
You have 5 fire moves in gen I.
Ember is an earlier move, only 2 pokemon learn Fire Punch and everything else are late game moves.
And most Fire types have shit Special.
Here's your starter having to use Ember until level 46 with a 85 special atk.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I looked at the others because why the frick not.
Here's a pokemon with one of the biggest BST of Gen I. Base 80 Special. Fricking Ember until level 50 for Growlithe. So you have to use the shit preevo until level 50 if you want this move. And if you use a Fire stone, it's over.
Look luck using Fire Blast with 5PP.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Now this is funny. For some reason GF decided to make Flareon learn Ember at level 16 in Yellow. You get Eevee at level 25, which means you don't even have access to that move. It must take at least 10 turns to KO another pokemon with Fire Spin.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I looked at the others because why the frick not.
Here's a pokemon with one of the biggest BST of Gen I. Base 80 Special. Fricking Ember until level 50 for Growlithe. So you have to use the shit preevo until level 50 if you want this move. And if you use a Fire stone, it's over.
Look luck using Fire Blast with 5PP.
Now this is funny. For some reason GF decided to make Flareon learn Ember at level 16 in Yellow. You get Eevee at level 25, which means you don't even have access to that move. It must take at least 10 turns to KO another pokemon with Fire Spin.
All 3 of those learn Flamethrower within 6 levels of each other. You're having a little fit over nothing, I'm right.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm right
Boy, I bet you felt mature typing this. Can't you simple accept this game is poorly balanced?
9 months ago
Anonymous
The valance was different from today. STAB elemental moves were meant to be uncommon. The only thing you're proving by being a sperg over how long it takes to use firespin is that you aren't getting that point. >Boy, I bet you felt mature typing this
As opposed to your "Now this is funny" in your third reply to yourself with no engagement? I am right, get over it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>STAB elemental moves were meant to be uncommon
with earlier Dig, Bubblebeam, Thunderbolt and Ice beam? Not really. Did you play this game? >As opposed to your "Now this is funny"
Fine, next time I will call this game shit like a good /vp/ anon. >I am right, get over it Now this is funny
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not that much earlier, and some like bubblebeam just aren't as good because there's no kicker status. It's literally just the game design back then, zoomer. Get over it. This I'd why Persian and Tauros were absolute kings of the gen, they got STAB moves commonly.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Tauros is truly the king of gen I. Bugged Hyper Beam and Blizzard. Something Stadium fixed, if you actually played back then you would know this.
It was fun to use Tauros anyway but the safari zone was always shit. You need a glitch to get one easier. And Persian is Blue only. >It's literally just the game design back then
True. Does not mean it was good.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>repeat what I say >"if you really played you would know this"
???????
9 months ago
Anonymous
oh, you're back.
You didn't mention Stadium, we're talking about in-game performance and not competitive performance and you have no idea what either one was like back then. You're ESL, you barely had internet access. I don't think you know what a cable link is. >???????
Now this is funny. How old are you?
Of all the fully evolved fire types, ninetales has the lowest attack. That's why it's allowed to get flamethrower earliest. The others either have high attack (rapidash, arcanine, flareon), not so high attack but guaranteed crit slash (charizard), or fire punch (magmar). All of them can be taught fire blast, anyway.
Not everything having immediate access to powerful STAB is fine, and your buddy finally getting the ultimate fire move only after sticking with them until the late game is fun.
I don't mind it on Arcanine and Ninetales but I don't like that Flareon is covered in fur that just looks like fire. It should actually be burning like Rapidash/Moltres.
Glaceon should also be covered in ice. Eeveelutions are flawed.
I would say Jolteon as a design is perfect, an Eevee charged with Electric energy.
While Vaporeon is the worst bc it grows fins and looks way too different.
Glaceon should had puffy winter fur
Vaporeon should be leaner like an otter
Flareon should have less fur and limbs blackened like cinders
Umbreon is badass but a proper dark type should look either as a sneaky curved snouted coyote or a brutal hyena with big jaws
>Ninetales and arcanine are the only god one
The absolute state.
Both the fliers are useful in Genwun OU, albeit as surprise options.
Moltres wreaks havock if you can get rid of the enemy's ground/rock, and Charizard does surprisingly well with a sword dance set.
>muh fanfic
It's gen one, it's the only meta.
>weak to BoltBeam
>weak to water
Nope they can't do shit.
>speed crits
>agility wrap
>psychics have zero reliable counters
this meta sucked and you're a homosexual every meta sucks, this franchise was never good
The only good fire types
Both extremely cute
Extremes suck.
The answer lies between them.
I wanna lie in between Flannery's legs if you know what I mean.
>MAN HANDS CANNOT UNSEE MAN HANDS
NTA bc newer gens have very exaggerated designs at times but the Team Star Bosses are a bad example when they’re meant to be punk/scene/general teenage rebellion inspired and even the game itself makes fun of Melia’s getup
>its okay to make moronic garbage if you acknowledge its moronic garbage
Nu Pokemon human designs have become consistently overdesigned, and pokegays don't even notice. I recently saw a poster defend Avery's design, for frick's sake.
Someone was wrong on the internet? Whaaaaaaaat! Thays crazy man, I've never seen that before. Better post about it daily and let it define your future opinions from now on.
What?
that's just generic anime trends. not exclusive to pokemon.
one is an old scientist. the other is a rebellious teenager. they exist, go touch grass
dont pretend like the numon scientists aren't ridiculous as well
Clearly we're getting better if the last one is anything to go by
>boomer is slippers
>turtle enough for the turtle club
>Elesa hit the wall and knocked it down
>The Monarch
>toothpaste commercial gijinka
>Kevin Flynn in all his CGI glory
>left is an actual human with a job that lives on planet earth
>right is a cartoon caricature freakshow
sum up old and modern pokemon pretty well
>Literal teenager doesn't have a job but the adult does
No way dude really??
>he only got a job as an adult
worthless leech
She had big shoes to fill.
If you ignore the legendary, you u have the perfect amount for a monotype run.
Love when they make exactly 6 lines of a type
The 6 Electric Pokémon.
Fire/Flying
Fire
Fire
Fire
Fire
Fire
Fire/Flying
Electric
Electric (Electric/Steel if you want to be Generous)
Electric
Electric
Electric
Electric/Flying
Did you think we didn't already know this? What was the point of this post?
Dumb ESL poster
There's no errors in that post. Cope.
why the hell wasn't ninetales fire/psychic goddamn it
Fire/Ghost*
ghost was for incorporeals. ninetales shouldnt be immune to being tackled or punched
psychic = paranormal
there were several pokemon that probably should have had secondary typings and just didn't
the other one that stands out is golduck not being water/psychic
Not purple or humanoid enough
psychic was to op
actual moronation
Magmar and Buzz really should have been part Fighting
>have additional weaknesses with only Magmar getting benefit against Rock types
no
Now post the 29 Poison types.
Crazy how gen 3 only gave you like 4 options yet they're still much better then what Kantard gives you
Thats not fair, every gen has at least one really good fire type. Gen 3 had Camerupt which was incredibly based, but gen 1 has Arcanine, gen 5 had Chandelure, gen 9 has a lot of good fires. Every gen has some.
I've never used Camerupt because I thought it had tons of weaknesses until 1 minute ago.
I'm glad I could help you see true joy
I think I was applying Torterra logic to it like a moron and figures 460 was too low.
Time to replay ORAS then.
Fuxk yeah bro. It's also in SV if that matters to you.
>only x4 water and x2 ground weakness
>5 resistances, 1 immunity
>slow, bulky, mixed attacker
>actually only has x3 water and x1.5 ground weakness with its ability
Camerupt is a long time bro, I love that funky little dude, it's a hugely underrated mon.
Flareon... my beloved
Fluffy. Warm. Huggable. Probably feels like a heated blanket.
>Zard
still the best starter, but getting cringier by the day
>9tales
Never had one because I 1st played Red and then FireRed. It seems pretty okay
>Arcanine
underwhelming. Just learns Flamethrower at lvl 10000 or something and this is how long your stuck with Growlithe
>Rapidash
underrated, but please, don't overrate it.
>Flareon
my favourite Eeveelution
>Magmar
the worst Fire type
>Moltres
the best Fire type
>Just learns Flamethrower at lvl 10000 or something and this is how long your stuck with Growlithe
It learns it at 40, which is not that big a deal at all. You can still use the TM on it if you're crazy about it.
It learns Flamethrower at Level 50 in Gen I
Learning Flamethrower at all is a huge seal in gen 1.
Gen I is full of bullshit with Fire types. Only Vulpix learns Flamethrower at a decent level.
A least you could use Ponyta and the Starter in DP.
It's not a fire type thing, getting powerful STAB moves was very uncommon for everyone besides normal types in gen 1. That was just the game design back then.
No, it's just shit balance.
You have earlier Ice Beam and Thunderbolt in gen I. Fire types (among many types) were chosen to be awfu.
Nah, you're overreacting. There's other fire types thst get it earlier. It was meant to be a later and stronger move bevause it is in that gen.
No, you're just trying to deny the facts.
You have 5 fire moves in gen I.
Ember is an earlier move, only 2 pokemon learn Fire Punch and everything else are late game moves.
And most Fire types have shit Special.
Here's your starter having to use Ember until level 46 with a 85 special atk.
I looked at the others because why the frick not.
Here's a pokemon with one of the biggest BST of Gen I. Base 80 Special. Fricking Ember until level 50 for Growlithe. So you have to use the shit preevo until level 50 if you want this move. And if you use a Fire stone, it's over.
Look luck using Fire Blast with 5PP.
Now this is funny. For some reason GF decided to make Flareon learn Ember at level 16 in Yellow. You get Eevee at level 25, which means you don't even have access to that move. It must take at least 10 turns to KO another pokemon with Fire Spin.
All 3 of those learn Flamethrower within 6 levels of each other. You're having a little fit over nothing, I'm right.
>I'm right
Boy, I bet you felt mature typing this. Can't you simple accept this game is poorly balanced?
The valance was different from today. STAB elemental moves were meant to be uncommon. The only thing you're proving by being a sperg over how long it takes to use firespin is that you aren't getting that point.
>Boy, I bet you felt mature typing this
As opposed to your "Now this is funny" in your third reply to yourself with no engagement? I am right, get over it.
>STAB elemental moves were meant to be uncommon
with earlier Dig, Bubblebeam, Thunderbolt and Ice beam? Not really. Did you play this game?
>As opposed to your "Now this is funny"
Fine, next time I will call this game shit like a good /vp/ anon.
>I am right, get over it
Now this is funny
Not that much earlier, and some like bubblebeam just aren't as good because there's no kicker status. It's literally just the game design back then, zoomer. Get over it. This I'd why Persian and Tauros were absolute kings of the gen, they got STAB moves commonly.
Tauros is truly the king of gen I. Bugged Hyper Beam and Blizzard. Something Stadium fixed, if you actually played back then you would know this.
It was fun to use Tauros anyway but the safari zone was always shit. You need a glitch to get one easier. And Persian is Blue only.
>It's literally just the game design back then
True. Does not mean it was good.
>repeat what I say
>"if you really played you would know this"
???????
oh, you're back.
You didn't mention Stadium, we're talking about in-game performance and not competitive performance and you have no idea what either one was like back then. You're ESL, you barely had internet access. I don't think you know what a cable link is.
>???????
Now this is funny. How old are you?
>barely
Cope.
why is it always the people with shit taste that want to share it lol
BOOBER
>five monotypes and two fire/flying
nice distribution idiot
Of all the fully evolved fire types, ninetales has the lowest attack. That's why it's allowed to get flamethrower earliest. The others either have high attack (rapidash, arcanine, flareon), not so high attack but guaranteed crit slash (charizard), or fire punch (magmar). All of them can be taught fire blast, anyway.
Not everything having immediate access to powerful STAB is fine, and your buddy finally getting the ultimate fire move only after sticking with them until the late game is fun.
Then you have the triple 3-stage grass/poison in gen 1.
why is Magmar looking at Flareon like that?
Why do they keep Magmar near the end of the game (and only on one version) again?
I don't mind it on Arcanine and Ninetales but I don't like that Flareon is covered in fur that just looks like fire. It should actually be burning like Rapidash/Moltres.
Glaceon should also be covered in ice. Eeveelutions are flawed.
I would say Jolteon as a design is perfect, an Eevee charged with Electric energy.
While Vaporeon is the worst bc it grows fins and looks way too different.
Glaceon should had puffy winter fur
Vaporeon should be leaner like an otter
Flareon should have less fur and limbs blackened like cinders
Umbreon is badass but a proper dark type should look either as a sneaky curved snouted coyote or a brutal hyena with big jaws
let's go back