Thats quite a lot, now I understand why so many say they casualize them for the playerbase.
Whats a game that has the majority, even if small playerbase total, at very high skill level?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Starcraft, Age of empires 1
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
not him but examples of things made in the last say, 10 years, would be more pertinent
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
None
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This isn't true when most RTS players refuse to play pvp and mostly play the campaign on easy mode
i know you're just trying to be inflammatory but ill answer honestly. its just the rank distribution, there are plenty of good players, there are just lots of lower ranks. it should come as no suprise that the majority of people who play a game, whether fighting, rts, fps, they average at about between "silver" and "gold" you know?
"most people are bad" is not nearly the same thing as "most people are worse than a bot literally mashing one button"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Most people can't beat Dark Souls which is the same shit
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
When a single button mash flows into a combo it takes exponentially more skill to counter it.
Note that exponentially means compared to facerolling.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
thats what bad means you fool, go look at any single player game with achievements and realize how wrong you are by seeing shit like "20% of players have this achievement" and its for beating the first level or some shit
Yeah since you can derank from there. It doesn't surprise me too much since there are a lot of mashing Black folk who can't block all the way from red to purple.
that was 7 wasn't it?
Tekken 8 either has no derank protection or it's absurdly low. You can definitely derank out of Vanquisher.
One website I'm finding says they removed it outright and the other says you can drop to Cavalry but not lower and I can't be assed to look any more
Game released without any microtransactions and with decent balance relative to past release versions but slanted towards hyperaggression.
The first big patch added a cash shop and nerfed those who didn't need any at all as well as a few outliers and also buffed or left untouched most of the truly degenerate characters.
The second big patch released a truly pathetic paid battle pass and Eddy who is profoundly hard to decode visually because capoeira is a meme irl let alone in tekken games where everything looks like mids and lows and they in their infinite stupidity decided to lock the lab behind character ownership. They also fundamentally changed a couple base systems to indirectly nerf one main abuser and broke some of the more difficult strings that combo enthusiasts enjoyed.
It really has been wall to wall frickery and cunning merchantry.
if you block the first three hits, you are negative as frick when you enter stance, this is not even close to a solved thing people are just impatient as frick
yes, in that one button combo you enter two different stances, first handstand then a low stance. You can really frick with people use to the 3 combo by moving forward while low/handstand or doing 4 during the handstand
It's the power of the lack of critical thinking skills the average gamer has. It's sad how gamers devolved from bookish nerds to degenerate slackers who get outsmarted by "meatheads".
>Jay Gould, the former owner of a social network and video site called Bolt.com that was started in the nineties but shut down this past fall following bankruptcy at the hands of a Universal Music Group lawsuit, has launched a new advertising network for casual gaming sites called Gamers Media.
Chad was a gamer all along.
capoeira was a fighting style created by slaves who wanted to learn how to defend themselves or fight back against their slave masters but had to learn to do so through underhanded means without being noticed, thus leading to all the different "dance" seeming moves in it
did they really have to give that style specifically to the Black person of all things? cause if we go by their logic, this would be racist.
Bro the best players in the world are calling it shit KEK
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Those are about the heat mechanic, a very specific mechanic you don't get from mashing 3. You got filtered from very predictable and punishable mashing, not a meter install that allows for strong oki.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can't even get past 1 button combo. That means you never encountered people who use Heat mechanics and wall/floor breaks. Go ahead argue even more. You are just exposing yourself for being like DSP.
>pros literally saying the game is shit >B-BUT LE YOUUUUUUU BUT LE MADE UP YOUUUUU THOUGH
holy seething pajeet shills
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the game might be shit but its not specifically because of a one button combo. You pointing at pro opinions in response to a webm of a bot using one button to beat someone who cant play the game is moronation
Im mediocre at Tekken, dislike many aspects of 8 and even i wouldnt say i dont like it because of this bot. sotp being a spastic
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The game isn't shitty "because" there's a character that can literally mash 1 button and be better than half the playerbase
The game is shitty for the same reason there is a character that can do that.
It's simply emblematic of the game's core design philosphy
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
A goldfish is better than 65% of the Elden Ring playerbase and most likely more since most people summoned. Most people aren't good at video games.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Has to use multiple inputs
Man that fish is a scrub
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can't even get past 1 button combo. That means you never encountered people who use Heat mechanics and wall/floor breaks. Go ahead argue even more. You are just exposing yourself for being like DSP.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
listening to pro play. lmao. most players are orange/red they patch around those.
I remember doing a similar thing back in Smash 4, seeing how long I could last in a free-for-all battle by just spamming the attack button and nothing else. But even that game was smart enough to notice I was just spamming and kicked me from the match; the fact that a competitive e-sports-ready game like this doesn't have such a simple mechanism is baffling.
Well it's not really fun versing a bot that just spams one move. This game is kind of broken in that the single button press puts out a consistently-hitting strong combo that launches the player forward so it's effective.
>a consistently-hitting strong combo that launches the player forward so it's effective
There isn't anything effective about doing the exact same string over and over.
It doesn't matter that it moves forward or that it mixes in lows when you always know it's coming.
>Normie >posts porn to garner attention and replies (this is his only source of human interaction for the day)
Every time I hop by here again, I'm reminded of how much brown hordes and the election ruined this (already shit) board.
/v/'s schrodinger's troony, xe is both everyone who is better at video games than himself or should be bad and any game is a joke if a trans woman can get top 17.
This looks like typical fighting game slop. homies complain about single spam move in literally all of them but maybe the genre isn’t so complex that spamming a single button is cheap and instantly beats the bottom 95% of the playerbase. Play rts or arena shooter if you want an actual competitive 1v1 game
I can assure you sc2 100% has more players than kekken+sf6 counting all platforms combined. aoe2 and maybe even wc3 have more monthly players than a lot of “popular” fighting games. Stick to button mashing ape, we don’t want you.
The frick are you talking about? StarCraft 2 is deader than dead to the point where it is about as active as QL and WC3 got BTFO thanks to Blizz forcing the shittiest remake known to man on everyone. AoE2s got 3 different versions of itself floating around and even with all of them combined they still barely reach 2k players, RTS might be the one genre that is just completely dead as not even indies are making more of them now, even arena shooters have a shitty indie release once every 2 years or so
I see you're attempting to LARP as an RTS player, and failed spectacularly. Here, let me fill you in, everyone's playing pirated EU4. Go forth and pretend you're speaking from a superior position in some other Ganker thread.
>aoe2 and maybe even wc3 have more monthly players than a lot of “popular” fighting games
you don't seem to comprehend how bad reforged fricked wc3 in the ass
i was recently replaying the singleplayer campaign and every time I booted up the game the global chat of all online players never exceeded 20 people
>RTS >Arena shooter
lol, lmao even. I would still play Arena shooters if it wasn't for the fact that I'd only be playing with bots, the same geriatric fricks that I've been playing with since 1999 or Gaylo
How many clips are out there of minute-long JP blockstring/lockdowns? You could never get away with this shit in Tekken at a tournament level outside of pools
jp was genuinely the most overrated character in a game where fricking luke exists. but i'm an anime player, 90 year long blockstrings are literally nothing to me and people that complain about it don't like fighting games.
>getting spammed out is mostly a Tekken problem >every game is full of spam, if you like it then you aren't real fighting games
Odd
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
getting put in a block string is not spam lol, getting zoned out by the zoner is not spam. theres no way you are equivocating a block string to mashing
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>my superior blockstring versus their brainless mashing >my glorious zoning versus their scummy spam >my genius reads versus their moronic guessing
Ah, my mistake
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah no if a zoner is throwing out his zoning tools im not saying he's spamming, i'm saying he's playing his fricking character lol.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Eddy going crazy on the 3/4 keys is his character so it's not spam
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's not spamming if the character is meant to be played this way?
Couldn't it be said that every character who uses their tools is playing how they are played? If you're just throwing out moves because 'you're supposed to', then there is no such thing as spam because anyone can just say that they're 'supposed to' be mashing out attacks
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i'm specifically talking about zoners, their entire tool kit revolves around them "spamming" and revolving around their different types of "spam" it's clearly different from a ryu throwing fireballs over and over, it's just weird to say a zoner is spamming when if he didn't a good 90% of his toolkit is just gone.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>its not spamming because zoners are MEANT to spam
Either any game with built-in spam mechanics is a spam game, or that other anon is right and Eddybot isn't spamming because the character is MEANT to be mashing kick buttons
There's a reason Tekken isn't considered a fighting game. It's more of a party game like Smash Bros, a true fighting game is something like Street Fighter
>instead of blocking because you don't know le moves you should le just get hit by them
lmao fricking moron
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Blocking will get you nowhere. You'll still get hit because the string has a low. The game is about attacking. You have to activate heat and ATTACK.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's called blocking and then punishing
3ddy literally just stands there stance switching for a good 700ms
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, once you know his 300 moves by heart you can do that.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>just get le hit >never block just get hit
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Blocking does not prevent getting hit, only delays it. You have to attack! Never stop attacking!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay Harada.
Gonna keep jerking off about how le heckin aggression is all that matters?
Can you add a second heat meter too.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Eddy doesn't even have 300 moves and most of his attacks are just parts of the same string. He effectively has around 50 and it isn't hard to learn what your opponent is doing in first to 3
in DoA you would just keep using hold when you realize it only does hi kicks
pretty sad how tekken is way more popular, but i imagine if holds were in the game the playerbase would be decimated since you cant play like this eddy bot
Kek, now watch them cope and say this is unique to Tekken 8. I seriously believe anyone who plays Tekken and treats it like it's meaningfully complex is a complete moron.
Eddy is absolutely top tier because of his ability to force 50/50s and privilege frames.
Eddy is busted because he literally gets a whole ass bnb from mashing 3
moron, it's not about it being "high rating" in any kind of absolute sense (not that there is an "absolute sense"). the fact that it's not hardstuck warrior (the highest rank you can't demote from) is already outrageous enough when it's ACTUALLY, LITERALLY, NON-FIGURATIVELY, WITHOUT USE OF METAPHORIC EXAGGERATION just constantly mashing one button, never stopping never blocking. now whether it's more about the playerbase or the game design being outrageously moronic is up to debate i guess.
>ase or the game design being outrageously moronic
In the case of Eddie, it is.ine Tekken has bad design choices of the knowledge check strings, Eddie cranks this problem beyond 9000.
Nope, SF is a real fighting game and Tekken is a spammy, poorly constructed mess of mechanics where the only skill is memorising frame data. you're confused because Tekken takes 1000+ hours of memorisation to go beyond spam and resemble a real fighting game but once you've memorised all that shit and wrangled all that pointless frame data it's merely a shitty version of what street fighter is at minute 1.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>fireball spam
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Jump you moron. There is no analogy the Tekken spam.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he thinks eddy's 3,3 is some kind of unblockable combo
oh no it's moronic
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He thinks eddy and this 1 move is the only spammy move in the entire game >He thinks Tekken isn't built to accommodate this kind of spam >He thinks it's normal and that all FGs operate the same way
Kek, you need to leave your cave of ignorance.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Fighting games operate on similar principles because there's only so many ways two people can fight lmao. Funnily enough when Nintendo puts their own spin on the formula you morons cry and say it's not a real fighting game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Fighting games operate on similar principles because there's only so many ways two people can fight
t. someone who literally only plays tekken and nothing else
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you're about to tell me that Puyo Puyo is a fighting game I will slap you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
sounds like someone missed the t-spin
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Puyo Puyo is a better game than Tekken.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
puyo puyo unironically requires more skill, execution, decision making than tekken 8 does
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
don't worry i saw you guys also posted the clip where you're all mystified by reina's 1,1,2 combo as well. i have no doubt in my mind about your capability to lose to one move spam. i am fully knowledged about your incompetency as you have laid it out so far.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Please continue to cope about how Tekken currently and always has favoured spammy gorilla gameplay, continue to cope about how Tekken drives all it's serious players bald because they still lose to random bullshit thousands of hours in and it makes them want to punch themselves for being moronic when the game is merely operating as intended. Keep pouring your life into the COD of fighting games that can't even match its low budget sister series. Keep memorising that never ending dictionary of frame data just so you can avoid knowledge checks instead of playing your opponent the way you do in every other fighting game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Tekken drives all it's serious players bald because they still lose to random bullshit thousands of hours in and it makes them want to punch themselves for being moronic when the game is merely operating as intended.
you lost the plot a tiny bit, serious players have issues with the heat system, the bound system before it, no one who plays tekken seriously is concerned with one move spam.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no one who plays tekken seriously is concerned with one move spam
this homie doesn't know about asiatics seething at azucena lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no one who plays tekken seriously is concerned with one move spam
knee literally went on a schizo rant about xiaoyu aop d for a month straight only for her to not get nerfed. tekken pros complain the absolute MOST about shit like this out of any fighting game community ever, it's genuinely unhinged.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nah, this has always been a feature of the Tekken audience, they flip the frick out constantly and are always raging and it's because their thousands of hours of frame data memorisation and grind are being trivialised by spam. This is now surfacing as endless rage about win quitting, calling them pluggers or whatever moronic name they had to invent for them. they get fricked by a moronic spammer and are denied their second chance to redeem themselves and it drives them insane.
Think about this for 5 seconds, you aren't mad when someone win quits if the match itself was a fair competition of skill, you are mad when you feel a shitty player scammed you out of a win. No other fighting game had this much whining about win quitting even with the constant casualisation and narrowing of their skill bands, old school fighting games had no complaining about this at all beyond the most autistic players. Tekken is on its own level of bullshit.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's should be noted that these same extreme feelings of frustration are induced by luck based bullshit games that intentionally repress skilled competition like mario party, mario kart, hearth stone, overwatch and games where there are factors outside your control like LOL or Dota.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>jumps >still hit by fireball hitbox
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can just parry fireballs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Cant successfully time a jump over a fireball
I'm sorry you are moronic, even my grand mother can jump over a goomba in mario. Stick to tekken
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Point is you need over 9000 more precise timing to jump over fireball comparing to spamming fireball.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nope, all fireball spam is just as easy to avoid as a goomba, what makes it scary is the other player planning around you jumping in or blocking. There is no such thing as scary fireball spam with no follow up therefore a 1 move spam that actually hits anyone like in Tekken is impossible
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's ok just admit you're too dumb for anything more complicated than the shoryuken/hadoken formula.
No, Tekken is shit and SF fans have been telling you this for decades. It's fricking hilarious that they gaslit the entire fgc into believing Tekken 7 was not only a "good" fighting game but the most complex one.
It's not. Only Nippon cares about it now and that's because Capcom is paying off a huge amount of streamers and influencers to retain interest in the game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's mogging kekken on Steam, a platform with no japs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>a platform with no japs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Only during Jap hours. The game is dead outside of Jap hours and the sales are shit unless they put it on fire sale.
SF V was so shit it almost killed my interest in the genre, I turned to Tekken to find a replacement and was horrified when I realised it was even worse.
Even mote hilarious players who beat him do it's mostly by trapping bot on wakeups.
Mash 3 Eddie bot absolutely crushes neutral game even against players he losses to.
Like that, except every character has target combos. And Eddy in particular has stance transitions attached to his target combos. So if you mash left kick over and over, you will get a sequence of moves that puts him into a stance. Now mashing that same button gives you a different sequence of moves that puts you into a different stance. And so on.
It would except someone mashing m.K in SF can easily be countered by a competent player by spamming fireball or proper spacing.
Mashing 3 with eddy has autocombos, moves you forward, and gives constant 50/50s.
Even smash doesn't let you do this btw.
I remember doing a similar thing back in Smash 4, seeing how long I could last in a free-for-all battle by just spamming the attack button and nothing else. But even that game was smart enough to notice I was just spamming and kicked me from the match; the fact that a competitive e-sports-ready game like this doesn't have such a simple mechanism is baffling.
Well it's not really fun versing a bot that just spams one move. This game is kind of broken in that the single button press puts out a consistently-hitting strong combo that launches the player forward so it's effective.
literally lol'ing at kekken fans, not even DOA has this issue, not even smash or MK. Also a troony doms the game LMAO worse than the black furry somehow in MK, Never say you the most skilled fightan again LMAO. KEKKEN EXPOSED
>smash babbys want to literally ban using the same move over and over
Y'all really haven't evolved even one bit
Imagine easy mode controls where you mash a single button and the game does the work for you except it's not on easy mode and mashing a single button by design gives you viable combos and pressure, he was deliberately designed like this to bring back memories of peoples youths where they picked eddy, mashed kicks and won.
Tekken is "hard" because it's hard to consistently beat facerolling morons. If you're a casual who doesn't care about consistency, it's fairly accessible.
90% of tekken's popularity is exactly because you can mash literally randomly and the character will do things that look like fighting. Even the old games are very mash friendly in a casual setting.
Harada described it that way himself.
Eddy was like this in his first game (3). Back then you had a decent backdash though so you didn't need to know shit about eddy to nuke it. But they've crippled backdashes all the way to Tekken 4 tier.
>so you didn't need to know shit about eddy to nuke it.
Apparently now his also has vet good hitboxes/hurtboxes and animation frames on his strings so it's very difficult to interrupt him from distance, his moves interrupt/evade opponents moves. That part of the moves us less obvious and isn't listed like frame list.
It's only difficulty comes from a bloated roster with even more bloated move lists. Tekken 8 being successful with normies has shown without a shadow of a doubt that Tekken 'pros' are some of the absolute scrubiest and lowest skill ceiling 'pros' in the FGC. It's hilarious seeing them all getting exposed and crying that they're only losing the yoshimitsu SpongeBob cosplay because the game is too easy lmao.
It’s not hard as much as it is characters have a lot of combos to learn and be aware of in higher ranks. It’s not hard to pickup and play if you have a foundation.
the entire hoopla around this game at launch was that it's in the most accessible state it's ever been including an auto combo mode which i'm sure could be programmed as a bot as well
How did you get that idea
Blood Roar was the hard 3D fighter
The whole reason Tekken is the one that became popular and endured was because it was easier
Tekken was always considered a simpler game in the realm of fighters
Maybe you got this idea because you saw SF players or someone complaining their game was simplified but you have to realize those games were always more complex than Tekken and still are
Tekken is hard in the same way it's hard to win a rock paper scissors or mario party tournament, I don't know why people are so fricking dumb they confuse hyper compressed skill bands and luck with difficulty.
With sf6 it's the engine, even if i dislike some designs the concept design looks good in general, even lily who looks like a goblin looks fine.
I hate t8 graphics the most because even if t7 looked like shit moves were clean to see and stuff electrics had impact, also forced TAA always looks like a blurry mess and even if you manage to disable you still have a bunch of annoying particles
No and it's not really a problem in Tekken after you learn the game. I think it's only an issue if you're really new and still learning. Just blocking makes 333 super punishable
Other games aren't nearly so bad but, yeah, dealing with some moron mashing is hard for newer players in every game. I don't think there's many genres where dealing with a dude playing like an idiot isn't a common hurdle really. Like, it's gonna be hard for someone new to shooters to deal with five guys just rushing the site through smoke with P90s in CS. It's probably pretty damn hard dealing with a zerg rush when you're new to RTS. Part of learning a game is learning how to stop your opponent from getting away with shit.
No, this has never been true of SF which is why it historically filtered most casuals. Tekken and soul calibur were always built to accommodate people who liked to mash.
You could probably get to gold in SF6 with modern assist combos. The fact is these ranking systems where you can't rank down or the point loss is softened makes the bottom ranks super inflated. SF6 Master 1500 is the equivalent of SFV Super Platinum.
>You could probably get to gold in SF6 with modern assist combos
100%
Gold is where I got to before "taking a break" and a good 60% of my matches were against modern users just mashing
Sorry but you won't make it past iron if all you do is mash 1 button, you still need an operator. Only Tekken allows you to win games with absolutely no input.
you could easily program an e honda bot to do this same garbage. all fighting games have noob traps. you think dunkey is actually good at guilty gear and got to the top floor by being a good player, or did he just find a charge character and spam the most plus option?
If it could happen then do it. Even with as mashy as Tekken 8 Eddy is he can't even get out of orange ranks. There isn't any character as mashy as 3ddy in SF and orange is such a low rank I doubt a one button bot could make it past silver.
>you think dunkey is actually good at guilty gear and got to the top floor by being a good player, or did he just find a charge character and spam the most plus option?
Funny you should say that, I coped about this specifically every time I think about the short period of time I played Strive and only hit floor 10 with Millia despite having played anime fighters on and off for years while Dunkey hit Celestial doing as you just said with May. I STILL cope and tell myself it's because I tried playing a character harder than I could pull off. I like to think I redeemed myself hitting S+ in Rising
Dunkey's weird that despite being a variety hour comedy goblin, he actually does have a love for fighting games. How many people are going to post a fricking VF1 shitpost
No you can't, key to Honda's spam is actively blocking and avoiding shit while waiting for the opportunity to spam his headbutt. You cannot, no matter how scrubby the character, replicate this 1 button spam offensive.
It always boggles my mind how some people don't attempt trial and error and just lock-in the same flowchart. It's like those Elden Ring players that would choose to jump R2 even if they constantly go punished or lost too much stamina.
maybe like SFIV Bison roundhouse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBQ5AS1kqBM
but even then you have to at least walk into range or you die to fireballs, it doesn't do a combo, it doesn't do a blockstring, it doesn't quickrise or reversal for you, I think it would do much worse.
Strive Sol f.S is the only other button I can think of, maybe it would get to floor 3 or something.
What was the last good Tekken (and SC too why not) game, where it was about skill, and not ridiculous combos and juggling and mashing and OP bullshit?
I want to say Tekken Tag, but Eddy still existed.
Also SC5 went down bullshit route too turning counters into rock/paper/scissors
IMO SC2 was the peak of the series overall but SC3 is still great and has more content. Every game after 2 and 3 all got glaring problems, so your enjoyment of the rest of the series boils down to personal preference, I enjoyed SC6 a lot despite the RPS mechanics being too prevalent. The things I hope that the devs have learned after 3 fricking games (not counting spinoffs) is: >SP content is king in SC as shown with pretty much every "Best SC game" list having 2/3 at the top or close to it >No seriously, SP content makes or breaks this fricking series and every attempt at making it more Esports focused has failed miserably >Embrace the customisation aspects of the game since it is what has brought people into the series after SP content got slashed >They need to get rid of their weird obsession with combos and counter mechanics, weapon based combat is supposed to be more neutral heavy simply because a sword, spear, dagger or axe is deadly if it just manages to nick you once in the wrong place.
Now, I'm not saying that they should go full autismo realism sim but we already have multiple fightan for techies, Bandai has made multiple of them themselves, so it's better if SC is just allowed to be its own thing. Just let the game be "casual" ffs, there is nothing wrong with it not being filled with gimmicks and overtly "complex" mechanics, they already have that with fricking Tekken
It's hard to say with tekken because I played thousands of hours of 3 and it didn't have moronic juggles that we knew of but I did abuse the frick out of Xiaoyu's ability to hit people on the ground, like if you get a knockdown or juggle you won't get much in the air but you get it on the ground instead so It's six of one vs half dozen of the other but at least everyone doesn't have to pretend gravity doesn't exist.
>anon links me a youtube video >for a game I was playing in 1997
We didn't have immediate access to information back then like we do now you moronic c**t. We had prima guides and the people in our immediate vincinity. Best I ever got for finding information on a game in the 90s was a list of calibration figures for toyota carollas on Gran Turismo, that shit was fire on my car thobeit.
I was an arcade player in the late 90s, we had combos in T3 and TTT
A character had to have pretty exceptional combo filler to be able to go past 3-4 hits though, I hate the bound shit
I was just in a college town, prima didn't talk about juggle combos so we didn't know them. All of it was groups of dudes in dorms or apartments smoking blunts and passing the controller and you'd get someone from one group visiting another at best to spread info.
okay homie, you guys were the vast minority though so it's not like your experience mirrored everyone at the time. Even a decade after when we're talking when internet access was more widespread about few people who played a game ever talked about it online
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Weird cope when you could've just said you're moronic.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
moron
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I didn't know about thing so it never existed
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>anon remembers posting about tekken on a forum with a couple dozen other people in 1997 >this means that everyone playing tekken then was doing that
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Correct.
Glad you agree.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Zaibatsu forums did not even exist in 1998 little liar
>try to look this up on twitch >live but doesn't come up in the search bar when you type it in, you have to go to through the search in a new window >twitch is censoring this bot from search results
lol
Yes this is nothing new. He is also a DLC character who you aren't allowed to lab and aren't even allowed to control in replays unless you bought him. His kit is also extremely obtuse and awkward because literally everything he does visually looks like it could be a mid or low so it's really obnoxious to deal with and is 100% a knowledge check legacy character. It's why scrubs love using him, and also why scrubs get so much success with him. Just watch the web, and you can see why it is so effective. It's honestly shocking how relentlessly he goes at it in the string and if you aren't familiar with him it's going to be miserable. Eddy, Hwoarang, Lee, and a few others are like this. I honestly hate these frickers and I don't know why they leave them like this. Legacy players know how their bullshit works so it's completely redundant, but everyone else hates it. If these characters are ever DLC it means you can't even sit in training mode to learn how the nonsense works. To make matters worse, everything they do looks exactly the same and are based on reused animations that are almost 30 years old now
he is, biggest issue is that Tekken 7 brought in a ton of new fighting game players that don't know how to block for low attacks, and also tekken 8 has really fricked damage right now so characters that are meant to be fast hit disproportionately hard.
this is the rep tekken has always had and what the players deal with every time from non-tekken players.
>the guy that kept eating combos and claims the entire game is about who gets launched first >the button masher beating people who don't know their frame data or how to punish >the guy that thinks mashing 10-strings is what the good players do
the funniest part about this is that it doesn't even really need a "bot"
if your controller has a turbo function you can do this, just tape the button down and walk away. Even on console.
Tekken has always been scrubby since forever. Give it a year and everyone's gimmicks will be solved or nerfed and the same old passive keep away playstyle will dominate.
Meaties do exist. You're talking to people probably don't even play.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You don't even know what meaties are moron. It simply doesn't exist in kekken because the oki play is moronic.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can meaty you fricking dumbass you just need to know when they're going to get up. It isn't fricking hard you just need to use a shoulder or axe kick with a ton of active frames.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You can meaty you fricking dumbass you just need to know when they're going to get up >you just need to know when they're going to get up
lmao you're a fricking moron
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not him but variable wakeup timings don't mean meaties don't exist, just that you have to try and choose a timing to cover. There are plenty of games with delayed wakeups or quick getups, and meatying isn't fake in those, it's just not perfectly consistent. Some characters may even have setups that cover multiple wakeup options
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
other games have 1-2 wakeup timings, tekken has infinity
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
read
Delay tech is not the same as picking when to wakeup. You can stay lying on the ground for the entire round if you want in tekken.
also you guys are moronic
no one is playing tekken trying to guess wake up timing pretending that the game has "meaties" when you're basically risking a whiff, block or a wake up counter for such a low reward
you aren't going to get a combo for this shit
Tekken is about hitting different heights, more so than any other fighting game.
So you have high, medium and low hits. There's little to no "invunlerable" moves there are some which are say a high or low crush.
Wake up also is a state in tekken so you can only do certain options such as rolling, get up attacks or fast get up.
You can't really just do a wake up DP like SF6.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You can't really just do a wake up DP like SF6.
It's funny because Harada really loves 2D games so much that the Heat engager button is basically a DP
I don't understand, just remove 3D together if you don't like you moronic homosexual, why does everything have homing now
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
SF6 is more of a 3D game than Tekken 8 since it has jumps and air movement/control.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that's the problem with them constantly nerfing movement. It just turns the game into an incredibly shitty and shallow 2D game
Why morons keep saying this? Previous eddy needs at least 2 buttons to get any combos, that's why the meme is mashing 3 and 4 while moving random directions like hwoarang.
Eddy literally spamming only 3 and gives auto combos, forward movement and 50/50 is new to tekken 8.
This. It also exposes that majority of Ganker don't actually play games. What Jim Mashima is doing is giving free wins to half decent people and the brain dead flowchart players get dumpstered by 3ddy.
What happened to tekken 8? Havent follow much about it on a while. Pre-launch seems to have a good start to it and heard some good things during the first few weeks but after that I see complaints. Was thinking on getting it.
Non-Tekken fans that are used to flow chart gameplay from other fighting games are having a hard time adapting against scrubby mechanics which is the core gameplay in Tekken series. Pros biggest gripe is more about Heat system.
Best part was when it took a fricking match(won 3 rounds) from someone on an 8 win streak putting an end to it and even got a Perfect on him. They fully recognized what they were doing too. Some stupid fricks in Tekken.
>guy beats the bot >rematches >gets 3-0'd >rematches gets 3-0'd again
Fricking how do you play against a single button 10 rounds in a row and still not pick up on what it's doing?
If you don't know Eddy you'd think all those moves are entirely different from one another. Due to that, the 3 spamming Eddy is the ultimate gatekeeper.
Just because it's easier for you to win doesn't make it better
You literally picked the game with the most basic combat to compare to fighting games
Souls already has PVP and it's so bad people literally mod it out of the game lmao
Creating a bloated moveset won't necessarily improve the game either. Also, have you forgotten that the thread topic is literally about a bot mashing the same button repeatedly and still outperforming half of the player base?
the simplicity is what makes it bland and there aren't enough strengths and weaknesses for every attack because they have to be a one-size fits all
It's checkers vs chess.
For Tekken a ws1 is weak against lows, meaty mids, sidestep, blocking, and being stubby. There are so many ways to counter this extremely powerful attack you can't force a stupid 50/50 situation by doing it like you can roll in neutral because there isn't a single catch-all move that can counter every option a player has against ws1. You have to study their patterns and condition a player not to use options like using tracking moves to prevent them from sidestepping. Even then tracking moves generally can be either ducked or are slow and can be beaten by jabs, so you can't abuse the conditioning because every action has at least 3 counters. It's not just bait the roll from someone with trash reaction times and hope the netcode lets you punish.
I won't read all of that, but you can make your fantasy about muh strength and weakness for every attack. But in reality based on this thread, fighting game apparently can be played by just pressing the same button over and over again, and it will still make you better than half of the player base
Creating a bloated moveset won't necessarily improve the game either. Also, have you forgotten that the thread topic is literally about a bot mashing the same button repeatedly and still outperforming half of the player base?
>have you forgotten that the thread topic is literally about a bot mashing the same button repeatedly and still outperforming half of the player base?
No. Isn't this the whole point? That if the game can be dominated with one move that's a clear problem with the game's design? You're basically just proving yourself wrong.
Judging Tekken by newbie bronze play is pretty sad. Remember this Eddy is beating ER players, not Tekken players
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are the gays always claiming how deep your games are and yet spamming a single button throws out some kind of combo. This is worse than Moonveil/rivers of blood. I remember a time when pressing one button would just spam a single animation.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>soul slopper thinks pressing one button is good when it applies to her game
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
How did this thread attract so many Souls shitters that have never even played a Tekken game in their life
Tekken has had one button strings since day 1 and the vast majority of strings don't naturally combo
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't care that Tekken was always bad.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
a combo that is easily punishable by anyone with more than a minutes of knowledge
Yeah no shit 3ddy is destroying rollsloppers and no one else. That's why he's hardstuck at orange and can't climb despite over 500 games.
He looks complex to you because your entire gaming experience has been franchises where you don't have to count past 5.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Red man make you cry? Didn't think that estus cancel was fair? Didn't like the hard swap?
The realities DS is much more deep, whereas your game has simulated complexity that's as wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Red players are free, but you can't even figure out a simple 333 string
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He looks complex
Strawman argument.
It's not about complexity. It's pure knowledge check character. His strings have no visual clues about there properties. Normal visual clues are like your blocked move and know you now are on advantage and can interrupt next move. Eddie has no such whatsoever.
Disconnection bettwen animations and actual effect is never good thing any game and for PvP especially.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
he's an oddball, but he makes sense if you look at his body language
when leans back that means his kick is generally going to be high and duckable, a straight or hunched over crouch is a low, and rising or standing is generally mid.
He's a knowledge check character because he's different from every other character, but his attacks and how they work are mostly logical based on his center of gravity.
anon Souls absolutely does not have "enough range"
The whole series barely even has a basic combat triangle and that's only after ER added jumping
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What do you need a gay triangle for. You guys are propagandized believing all this junk. First a literal Nintendo Party game blew all you guys the frick out at the start of the decade and then some janky ARPG did it again in the next one.
literally lol'ing at kekken fans, not even DOA has this issue, not even smash or MK. Also a troony doms the game LMAO worse than the black furry somehow in MK, Never say you the most skilled fightan again LMAO. KEKKEN EXPOSED
Tekken 8 look's pretty fun, is it possible to just switch my brain off and relax with a game like this? just mash through casual matches without having to study movesets and stuff?
3ddy is now demoted in yellow ranks. All it does it teach people to recognize pattern play. I say this is a good thing. I hope someone makes a Demoman Paul or Junkyard Law.
I think at the end of the day, capcom made no effort to stop modders from putting cammy in mostly naked outfits, while harada is banning modders who just want to get rid of the manly feet and no asses and small breasts.
a game based entirely around whiff cancelable normals will forever be a joke game for moron mashers that just want to guess on 50/50s after 50/50s till the end of time.
I don't feel like anyone who plays tekken has a right to further matches with anyone else. If I keep playing with someone, fine but I'm not doing anything wrong if I don't, for whatever reason.
Fighting games are meant to be played by children or drunks against their friends at an arcade.
They were never difficult. Can't believe this genre even still exists and has multiple franchises receiving new entries every couple years still.
>morons unironically comparing this to fireball
stupid Black folk
a fireball takes more than one button to do
a fireball gets blocked universally
a fireball doesn't combo
meanwhile this garbage is literally one button, has 50/50s and has autocombo
you guys are fricking morons who don't play fighting games
You're a fricking moron, you don't need to guess high or low to block a fireball. Eddy's 3 mash cycles from low and high hitting moves. You are a clueless moron. Don't talk to me.
>you don't need to guess high or low to block a fireball
You don't need to guess Eddy's 33333 because
A) it's the same moves every single time
B) you can just block the first string and use your heavy plus frames to interrupt the second
You're acting like auto combos aren't trivial to block and punish for even a complete newcomer in any other game. Their function in other games is just to extend damage once you win neutral, in Tekken a combo is neutral for hundreds of not thousands of hours.
You're acting like this string isn't trivial to block and punish (or interrupt)
You don't need to memorise how to block Eddy's 3333
Just hold block on the move, then interrupt the next move
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
homie you can watch the stream and see all these people trying to interrupt the string, amazing how you morons can pretend that these solutions are easy when there's a stream right now proving that wrong
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
see
There are people in this stream, at the lowest rank, who get hit by the move once or twice, realise what is happening and then get a triple perfect
You don't need to practice it
you could stream someone walking into 50 fireballs, that wouldn't make repeating fireballs hard to deal with
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you could stream someone walking into 50 fireballs
The difference is that this shit will never happen, on the other hand we have a stream proving mashing 3 with eddy works.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I can guarantee you they're trying to interrupt with something way too slow, or after they're getting hit by the initial move and they're minus and trying to interrupt then. You can literally just dick jab a ton of it.
Why do Tekken players put up with it? This isn't a problem in any normal skill based game and certainly not any other major 2d fighter.
Because despite what people want to say, there is in fact a lot of depth to what happens once people get past the mashing shit. There's a reason at the absolute highest level of play it's not Eddy spamming 3, and is instead much more compact safe play. A lot of stuff in Tekken has an answer to it, people are just unaware of it. Many 2d fighters you either don't dial in combos, though MK and MVC do come to mind, or there's answers that are invincible like DPs so the way the game functions requires a different type of knowledge. When there's 4 ways to move and a high low system, and defense is based around all of it, there's a lot to learn and you will no doubt sometimes die to things that you've forgotten how to deal with because there's so much. But good players are reminded by that initial loss what the answer is.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
high/mid/low system, I'd assume most can understand what I mean though. Also I'm not saying Tekken players are geniuses or some stupid shit. It's just pattern recognition and being willing to learn things over time.
Do you think knowledge checks make for an interesting competition? Or would you like to actually play with another human brain?
Every FG has knowledge checks. You would just look at them differently when it comes to 2d games, like frame traps.
It's trivial as long as you go into training mode and memorise the frame data, now do this for the 50000 other moves and spammy strings in the game. Now you understand why "learning" to play Tekken is boring as frick and why knowledge check simulator sucking sucks.
You're acting like auto combos aren't trivial to block and punish for even a complete newcomer in any other game. Their function in other games is just to extend damage once you win neutral, in Tekken a combo is neutral for hundreds of not thousands of hours.
And people wonder why Tekken tards are one of the most annoying fanbases in the entire industry. It's absolute morons who have a culture of self delusion that makes them think they are geniuses, the absolute worst combination.
You're acting like this is the first fighting game with an autocombo
>a fireball gets blocked universally
only against human beings
the rank this is working at,m the people there are not sapient
And people wonder why Tekken tards are one of the most annoying fanbases in the entire industry. It's absolute morons who have a culture of self delusion that makes them think they are geniuses, the absolute worst combination.
It's just Eddy having a string that goes into a stance that has a different string that comes from it which then goes into a different stance that has the same thing. It's funny as frick that people are losing to a knowledge gap, and you fricking morons are calling them 50/50s and autocombos. It's literally a string that once you know what it looks like, you can just crouch and kill them.
I didn't even mention what you said about the fireball you fricking idiot.
This isn't a new or contained problem with Tekken, there's literally a webm of a baby beating a pro player in Tekken 7 by mashing. Tekken has always been made fun of for this shit, it's only now that it's so clear and undeniable, there's a bot with thousands of people watching that is repeating this experiment 24/7
And yes, I'm aware of that video. That's unfortunately the nature of a game where you can dial in strings. It's also quite hard to anticipate what someone is going to do when they have no idea what they're doing. That's a rough combo. It's especially frustrating for Tekken players that are mid level that have stopped mashing because they will lose to mashers despite having moved out of the phase.
>Why do Tekken players put up with it?
by not being a shitter?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Can you not comprehend that you are solving an issue that does not and should not exist in a skill based game? You are solving the same problem a mario kart player has to.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
what do you mean? the issue is literally solved by getting better at the game, there's a reason the bot is still in yellow ranks
This isn't a new or contained problem with Tekken, there's literally a webm of a baby beating a pro player in Tekken 7 by mashing. Tekken has always been made fun of for this shit, it's only now that it's so clear and undeniable, there's a bot with thousands of people watching that is repeating this experiment 24/7
Kek this cope. This does not happen in other fighting games yet you accept it as normal. If a 2 year old knocked out mike Tyson people would be questioning wether boxing was a sport for b***hes, not coping with i-i-its just o-one round, t-t-the baby is OP, t-the move he used is weird!
Now keep in mind Gandhi is a pro player and not a random Ruler rank
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Gandhi
FSP, rather*
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>This does not happen in other fighting games
Now keep in mind Gandhi is a pro player and not a random Ruler rank
FSP isnt a pro player, moron.
He's fricking shit at fighting games and a troony now too.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Grown ass man with hundreds of not thousands of hours of online gimmick play winning in a tournament setting is the same as a literal baby mashing random buttons
Kek, you have to reach so hard to find anything remotely as bad.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you know anything about Tekken and SF then you know Gandhi and the kid on Leeroy were playing just as badly as each other, only it's SF4 where the moron not only took one round then immediately got adjusted to, this guy beat him in a set
This isn't mashing one button.
>This isn't mashing one button.
see
This isn't a new or contained problem with Tekken, there's literally a webm of a baby beating a pro player in Tekken 7 by mashing. Tekken has always been made fun of for this shit, it's only now that it's so clear and undeniable, there's a bot with thousands of people watching that is repeating this experiment 24/7
just learn every character's moveset bro it's not that hard haha wtf my game genre is dead how could this happen must be the fort night kids and their team games
Kekken players think memorizing frame data and move properties are the essence of fighting games lmao. homosexuals have never experienced spacing just the right distance for the right read.
Is vanquisher supposed to be an impresive rank?
It's impressive for a bot mashing one button
you can do legit combos just hitting x with eddy.
And the game lets you do this because it's for braindead monkeys. Amazing.
no its not lol, you could probably program a king bot to f+2,1 and get the same results. people are fricking moronic until about Tenryu
So what you're saying is that the majority of tekken players are morons?
Thats impressive.
The lower 50% of any fighting game are totally trash.
Thats quite a lot, now I understand why so many say they casualize them for the playerbase.
Whats a game that has the majority, even if small playerbase total, at very high skill level?
Starcraft, Age of empires 1
not him but examples of things made in the last say, 10 years, would be more pertinent
None
This isn't true when most RTS players refuse to play pvp and mostly play the campaign on easy mode
Yeah the bottom percent are casuals, just like every game.
tekken players are literally bragging about being mouthbreathers LMAO
i know you're just trying to be inflammatory but ill answer honestly. its just the rank distribution, there are plenty of good players, there are just lots of lower ranks. it should come as no suprise that the majority of people who play a game, whether fighting, rts, fps, they average at about between "silver" and "gold" you know?
These are the top korean players in a tournament. There's literally no difference, they just spam moves over and over. It's time to stop coping.
that move was nerfed
It's still OP, asiatics were complaining that the nerf literally did nothing.
What is this? advancing plus on block tracking fast mid?
"most people are bad" is not nearly the same thing as "most people are worse than a bot literally mashing one button"
Most people can't beat Dark Souls which is the same shit
When a single button mash flows into a combo it takes exponentially more skill to counter it.
Note that exponentially means compared to facerolling.
thats what bad means you fool, go look at any single player game with achievements and realize how wrong you are by seeing shit like "20% of players have this achievement" and its for beating the first level or some shit
>3 buttons
not impressive
That's just how you play Eddie
Yes for someone literally pressing one single fricking button and he's still going anyway.
Yeah since you can derank from there. It doesn't surprise me too much since there are a lot of mashing Black folk who can't block all the way from red to purple.
No, you can't rank down until Vanquisher, so you just have to grind newbies and Asmongold watchers to get there
that was 7 wasn't it?
Tekken 8 either has no derank protection or it's absurdly low. You can definitely derank out of Vanquisher.
One website I'm finding says they removed it outright and the other says you can drop to Cavalry but not lower and I can't be assed to look any more
My bad it's Warrior where you can lose points and demote.
No, they are essentially teal ranks in 7
its amazing how they practically ruined this games reputation so quickly
I'm out of the loop, what happened with Tekken 8?
t. played only tekken dark ressurection
it has new mechanics so everyone's b***hing and moaning. happens every time a new fighting game comes out
Game released without any microtransactions and with decent balance relative to past release versions but slanted towards hyperaggression.
The first big patch added a cash shop and nerfed those who didn't need any at all as well as a few outliers and also buffed or left untouched most of the truly degenerate characters.
The second big patch released a truly pathetic paid battle pass and Eddy who is profoundly hard to decode visually because capoeira is a meme irl let alone in tekken games where everything looks like mids and lows and they in their infinite stupidity decided to lock the lab behind character ownership. They also fundamentally changed a couple base systems to indirectly nerf one main abuser and broke some of the more difficult strings that combo enthusiasts enjoyed.
It really has been wall to wall frickery and cunning merchantry.
And that's why Street Fighter 6 has more players than Tekken 8.
>SF6 is at 20k
>T8 is at 11k
Yup Yup, SF won.
it's destroyer now
>literally one button makes you better than more than 50% of the playerbase
absolute state
Am I supposed to be able to see the words on any of this?
Any less pixels and it may as well be radio.
>He doesn't even stop for a fricking second
Lmaooo
sad part is victor is the same
it'll filter out most people who don't know. That makes up like 70 percent of players lol
I love the fact that you just know he realised what was going on, thought he could counter it and still lost to it.
Controller was smashed that day.
>attack moves him forward automatically
Tekken is so gay now, lmao
"I fear not the player who makes 10,000 inputs once, but I fear the player who makes one input 10,000 times"
Jej
10/10
Actual martial arts approve of this mastery of pressing x
lost
>"I fear not the player who makes 10,000 inputs once, but I fear the player who makes one input 10,000 times"
is there any mixup in that 3333 string or can they literally just block it
if you block the first three hits, you are negative as frick when you enter stance, this is not even close to a solved thing people are just impatient as frick
yes, in that one button combo you enter two different stances, first handstand then a low stance. You can really frick with people use to the 3 combo by moving forward while low/handstand or doing 4 during the handstand
They can just block it. If the opponent never touches the controller the round will end in a draw.
I don't know why but the bot keeps spamming the button no matter what is funny as frick
>capoeira
>guy looks like a detroit crimer
Is this the power of Black Excellence?
It's the power of the lack of critical thinking skills the average gamer has. It's sad how gamers devolved from bookish nerds to degenerate slackers who get outsmarted by "meatheads".
>Jay Gould, the former owner of a social network and video site called Bolt.com that was started in the nineties but shut down this past fall following bankruptcy at the hands of a Universal Music Group lawsuit, has launched a new advertising network for casual gaming sites called Gamers Media.
Chad was a gamer all along.
Heheheheh now that is some hot garbage
capoeira was a fighting style created by slaves who wanted to learn how to defend themselves or fight back against their slave masters but had to learn to do so through underhanded means without being noticed, thus leading to all the different "dance" seeming moves in it
did they really have to give that style specifically to the Black person of all things? cause if we go by their logic, this would be racist.
>battle ruler Paul just plugged after getting 3-0'd
Capoeira is a joke of a fighting style, no one else practices it.
>he doesn't know
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Capoeira_Fighter_3:_Ultimate_World_Tournament
Played the demo online. Good shit.
It's mostly seen as a dance really, no one practices capoeira for fighting in real life
Anon he's Brazilian, it's not like they could do much else.
On that note it's funny how they made Eddy look like Neymar in this game.
>he's Brazilian, it's not like they could do much else
jiu jitsu
when I read that post I knew there was gonna be a moron that would say this lol
>https://m.twitch.tv/jimmashima
Seems stuck on Destroyer unfortunately, also it sometimes gets stuck on the rematch screen.
Good. This exposes the scrubs who uses flowchart pattern instead of analyzing their opponents playstyle and adapting to it.
How does that expose it? If anything it shows that if you just flowchart 3333 you will be better than 50% of the playerbase.
less than half of playerbases even beat games on normal mode
Most people probably ragequit online after losing once and never learned how to play
glad I decided to drop the game
have you tried blocking or sidestepping to get out of literal glue eater ranks?
>can't adapt to a simple pattern
Ganker is literally exhibiting DSP-like behavior
The simple pattern is that Tekken sucks over and over again. Post another frog
You're stuck in the equivalent of bronze ranks. You don't even know how to play
Bro the best players in the world are calling it shit KEK
Those are about the heat mechanic, a very specific mechanic you don't get from mashing 3. You got filtered from very predictable and punishable mashing, not a meter install that allows for strong oki.
>pros literally saying the game is shit
>B-BUT LE YOUUUUUUU BUT LE MADE UP YOUUUUU THOUGH
holy seething pajeet shills
the game might be shit but its not specifically because of a one button combo. You pointing at pro opinions in response to a webm of a bot using one button to beat someone who cant play the game is moronation
Im mediocre at Tekken, dislike many aspects of 8 and even i wouldnt say i dont like it because of this bot. sotp being a spastic
The game isn't shitty "because" there's a character that can literally mash 1 button and be better than half the playerbase
The game is shitty for the same reason there is a character that can do that.
It's simply emblematic of the game's core design philosphy
A goldfish is better than 65% of the Elden Ring playerbase and most likely more since most people summoned. Most people aren't good at video games.
>Has to use multiple inputs
Man that fish is a scrub
You can't even get past 1 button combo. That means you never encountered people who use Heat mechanics and wall/floor breaks. Go ahead argue even more. You are just exposing yourself for being like DSP.
listening to pro play. lmao. most players are orange/red they patch around those.
why are combo chains so long and unbreakable in this game? the bot literally does like half health and a chain of 3 combos with 1 button
I think each 33 moves him into another stance and he cycles through 3 stances
what a ugly ans shitty game
Damn, even fighting games are auto battlers now
they really gave him the broke buck zoomer cut
>same button produces a different move everytime
???????????
It's a combo string. 3333 produces an auto combo
I remember doing a similar thing back in Smash 4, seeing how long I could last in a free-for-all battle by just spamming the attack button and nothing else. But even that game was smart enough to notice I was just spamming and kicked me from the match; the fact that a competitive e-sports-ready game like this doesn't have such a simple mechanism is baffling.
Why shiuld they do that
Well it's not really fun versing a bot that just spams one move. This game is kind of broken in that the single button press puts out a consistently-hitting strong combo that launches the player forward so it's effective.
>Well it's not really fun versing a bot that just spams one move
You have a source for that?
>a consistently-hitting strong combo that launches the player forward so it's effective
There isn't anything effective about doing the exact same string over and over.
It doesn't matter that it moves forward or that it mixes in lows when you always know it's coming.
Normie fighting games disgust me
>Normie
>posts porn to garner attention and replies (this is his only source of human interaction for the day)
Every time I hop by here again, I'm reminded of how much brown hordes and the election ruined this (already shit) board.
porn
It's a fighting game, tardlet normie zoomer tourist
>Fairy Fighting
peak sexo fighting game
Years later I still laugh when remembering the Rape Raging Demon super
Kekken "players"
being exposed like crazy
The FGC died with Evo, after the corpse was purchased by snoy.
/v/'s schrodinger's troony, xe is both everyone who is better at video games than himself or should be bad and any game is a joke if a trans woman can get top 17.
This looks like typical fighting game slop. homies complain about single spam move in literally all of them but maybe the genre isn’t so complex that spamming a single button is cheap and instantly beats the bottom 95% of the playerbase. Play rts or arena shooter if you want an actual competitive 1v1 game
whoa, i want to play at least dying genres, not completely dead ones.
I can assure you sc2 100% has more players than kekken+sf6 counting all platforms combined. aoe2 and maybe even wc3 have more monthly players than a lot of “popular” fighting games. Stick to button mashing ape, we don’t want you.
the last random statistic i heard in regards to how extremely dead and abandoned SC2 is that SC:Brood War has more players.
The frick are you talking about? StarCraft 2 is deader than dead to the point where it is about as active as QL and WC3 got BTFO thanks to Blizz forcing the shittiest remake known to man on everyone. AoE2s got 3 different versions of itself floating around and even with all of them combined they still barely reach 2k players, RTS might be the one genre that is just completely dead as not even indies are making more of them now, even arena shooters have a shitty indie release once every 2 years or so
aoe2 has more players on steam than any fighting game (SF6 likely beats it if you add console playerbase). dunno about other rts.
>barely reach 2k players
https://steamdb.info/app/813780/
Are you moron can't even read??
I see you're attempting to LARP as an RTS player, and failed spectacularly. Here, let me fill you in, everyone's playing pirated EU4. Go forth and pretend you're speaking from a superior position in some other Ganker thread.
>aoe2 and maybe even wc3 have more monthly players than a lot of “popular” fighting games
you don't seem to comprehend how bad reforged fricked wc3 in the ass
i was recently replaying the singleplayer campaign and every time I booted up the game the global chat of all online players never exceeded 20 people
RTS and arena shooters would still be alive if they were playable by mashing one button. That's what gamers want.
Fortnite.
>RTS
>Arena shooter
lol, lmao even. I would still play Arena shooters if it wasn't for the fact that I'd only be playing with bots, the same geriatric fricks that I've been playing with since 1999 or Gaylo
This is mostly a Tekken problem, ignore the seething kekken cuckolds.
Works in every other game
Not in SF6, tekken troony
Yes it does
prove it
Yes, this is against a CPU.
A level 4 CPU isn't a human online. It's an easy mode
CPU made for children.
How many clips are out there of minute-long JP blockstring/lockdowns? You could never get away with this shit in Tekken at a tournament level outside of pools
jp was genuinely the most overrated character in a game where fricking luke exists. but i'm an anime player, 90 year long blockstrings are literally nothing to me and people that complain about it don't like fighting games.
>getting spammed out is mostly a Tekken problem
>every game is full of spam, if you like it then you aren't real fighting games
Odd
getting put in a block string is not spam lol, getting zoned out by the zoner is not spam. theres no way you are equivocating a block string to mashing
>my superior blockstring versus their brainless mashing
>my glorious zoning versus their scummy spam
>my genius reads versus their moronic guessing
Ah, my mistake
yeah no if a zoner is throwing out his zoning tools im not saying he's spamming, i'm saying he's playing his fricking character lol.
Eddy going crazy on the 3/4 keys is his character so it's not spam
>It's not spamming if the character is meant to be played this way?
Couldn't it be said that every character who uses their tools is playing how they are played? If you're just throwing out moves because 'you're supposed to', then there is no such thing as spam because anyone can just say that they're 'supposed to' be mashing out attacks
i'm specifically talking about zoners, their entire tool kit revolves around them "spamming" and revolving around their different types of "spam" it's clearly different from a ryu throwing fireballs over and over, it's just weird to say a zoner is spamming when if he didn't a good 90% of his toolkit is just gone.
>its not spamming because zoners are MEANT to spam
Either any game with built-in spam mechanics is a spam game, or that other anon is right and Eddybot isn't spamming because the character is MEANT to be mashing kick buttons
Why do Gankercels love to larp about playing completely dead games?
because if it's dead you can't check them so they can just say whatever they want
Remember kids, the less knowledge you have about something, the more confidently you can speak on the subject.
Prime example here.
But his is right. You cant win any match of Fortnite mashing single button input.
>click mouse 1
>win
Post video how you do that.
Pro tip:
>you cant.
Simple click on person into they die.
I am still waiting for you video.
>Just pressing 3 five times does 50% damage
What the actual frick
There's a reason Tekken isn't considered a fighting game. It's more of a party game like Smash Bros, a true fighting game is something like Street Fighter
Imagine a society where tekken players learned to block
Blocking is useless unless you know the opponent's moveset (100-300 moves) by heart
No.
Yes. If you don't recognize the 300ms gap in their offense where it's your turn they'll just continue attacking and eventually catch you with a mixup.
>instead of blocking because you don't know le moves you should le just get hit by them
lmao fricking moron
Blocking will get you nowhere. You'll still get hit because the string has a low. The game is about attacking. You have to activate heat and ATTACK.
it's called blocking and then punishing
3ddy literally just stands there stance switching for a good 700ms
Yes, once you know his 300 moves by heart you can do that.
>just get le hit
>never block just get hit
Blocking does not prevent getting hit, only delays it. You have to attack! Never stop attacking!
Okay Harada.
Gonna keep jerking off about how le heckin aggression is all that matters?
Can you add a second heat meter too.
Eddy doesn't even have 300 moves and most of his attacks are just parts of the same string. He effectively has around 50 and it isn't hard to learn what your opponent is doing in first to 3
in DoA you would just keep using hold when you realize it only does hi kicks
pretty sad how tekken is way more popular, but i imagine if holds were in the game the playerbase would be decimated since you cant play like this eddy bot
Kek, now watch them cope and say this is unique to Tekken 8. I seriously believe anyone who plays Tekken and treats it like it's meaningfully complex is a complete moron.
How does this manage to simultaneously show that tekken players are moronic AND that eddy is busted
He's not.
Highly doubtful, you sell DLC characters by making them overpowered. Harada knows this.
Ah yes which is why Ganryu absolutely dominated Tekken 7.
Leroy was in that very pack lmfao kekkengay
Ah okay so it doesn't count.
Marduk (to an extent), fahk, lidia, julia, geese and kuni were all turbo fricking privileged characters
Lei
Leroy and Zafina.
Leroy Smith
Guilty Gear has zero issue selling DLC characters that are meh
To be fair it's the first opportunity for a life long fan of a character to play it.
I can’t wait for all the Dizzy mains excited to play her for the first time in S4
Just look at all the A.B.A. fans playing her I am yet to vs a single one
I played nothing but A.B.A.s like a week after she came out then most people went back to their mains.
Fair, I was out camping when she came out so I missed the initial hype cycle.
>does beginner ranks prove anything
no
Eddy is absolutely top tier because of his ability to force 50/50s and privilege frames.
Eddy is busted because he literally gets a whole ass bnb from mashing 3
none of those matter when you can just duck or sidestep for a full combo
My god, fighting games are so fricking shit, I'm so glad I don't play this garbage
No one asked scrub
>my bias has been confirmed
I'm happy for you anon
how many people think this is high rating? so many randos are like "hehehe it's DESTROYER" like if you're under 250k you're dogshit
moron, it's not about it being "high rating" in any kind of absolute sense (not that there is an "absolute sense"). the fact that it's not hardstuck warrior (the highest rank you can't demote from) is already outrageous enough when it's ACTUALLY, LITERALLY, NON-FIGURATIVELY, WITHOUT USE OF METAPHORIC EXAGGERATION just constantly mashing one button, never stopping never blocking. now whether it's more about the playerbase or the game design being outrageously moronic is up to debate i guess.
>ase or the game design being outrageously moronic
In the case of Eddie, it is.ine Tekken has bad design choices of the knowledge check strings, Eddie cranks this problem beyond 9000.
If you mashed punch in street fighter I don't think you would even get past the lowest starter rank. You would struggle to win a single game.
SF is hard at the most casual level, but everything above that and Tekken is way harder.
Nope, SF is a real fighting game and Tekken is a spammy, poorly constructed mess of mechanics where the only skill is memorising frame data. you're confused because Tekken takes 1000+ hours of memorisation to go beyond spam and resemble a real fighting game but once you've memorised all that shit and wrangled all that pointless frame data it's merely a shitty version of what street fighter is at minute 1.
>fireball spam
Jump you moron. There is no analogy the Tekken spam.
>he thinks eddy's 3,3 is some kind of unblockable combo
oh no it's moronic
>He thinks eddy and this 1 move is the only spammy move in the entire game
>He thinks Tekken isn't built to accommodate this kind of spam
>He thinks it's normal and that all FGs operate the same way
Kek, you need to leave your cave of ignorance.
Fighting games operate on similar principles because there's only so many ways two people can fight lmao. Funnily enough when Nintendo puts their own spin on the formula you morons cry and say it's not a real fighting game.
>Fighting games operate on similar principles because there's only so many ways two people can fight
t. someone who literally only plays tekken and nothing else
If you're about to tell me that Puyo Puyo is a fighting game I will slap you.
sounds like someone missed the t-spin
Puyo Puyo is a better game than Tekken.
puyo puyo unironically requires more skill, execution, decision making than tekken 8 does
don't worry i saw you guys also posted the clip where you're all mystified by reina's 1,1,2 combo as well. i have no doubt in my mind about your capability to lose to one move spam. i am fully knowledged about your incompetency as you have laid it out so far.
Please continue to cope about how Tekken currently and always has favoured spammy gorilla gameplay, continue to cope about how Tekken drives all it's serious players bald because they still lose to random bullshit thousands of hours in and it makes them want to punch themselves for being moronic when the game is merely operating as intended. Keep pouring your life into the COD of fighting games that can't even match its low budget sister series. Keep memorising that never ending dictionary of frame data just so you can avoid knowledge checks instead of playing your opponent the way you do in every other fighting game.
>Tekken drives all it's serious players bald because they still lose to random bullshit thousands of hours in and it makes them want to punch themselves for being moronic when the game is merely operating as intended.
you lost the plot a tiny bit, serious players have issues with the heat system, the bound system before it, no one who plays tekken seriously is concerned with one move spam.
>no one who plays tekken seriously is concerned with one move spam
this homie doesn't know about asiatics seething at azucena lmao
>no one who plays tekken seriously is concerned with one move spam
knee literally went on a schizo rant about xiaoyu aop d for a month straight only for her to not get nerfed. tekken pros complain the absolute MOST about shit like this out of any fighting game community ever, it's genuinely unhinged.
Nah, this has always been a feature of the Tekken audience, they flip the frick out constantly and are always raging and it's because their thousands of hours of frame data memorisation and grind are being trivialised by spam. This is now surfacing as endless rage about win quitting, calling them pluggers or whatever moronic name they had to invent for them. they get fricked by a moronic spammer and are denied their second chance to redeem themselves and it drives them insane.
Think about this for 5 seconds, you aren't mad when someone win quits if the match itself was a fair competition of skill, you are mad when you feel a shitty player scammed you out of a win. No other fighting game had this much whining about win quitting even with the constant casualisation and narrowing of their skill bands, old school fighting games had no complaining about this at all beyond the most autistic players. Tekken is on its own level of bullshit.
It's should be noted that these same extreme feelings of frustration are induced by luck based bullshit games that intentionally repress skilled competition like mario party, mario kart, hearth stone, overwatch and games where there are factors outside your control like LOL or Dota.
>jumps
>still hit by fireball hitbox
You can just parry fireballs
>Cant successfully time a jump over a fireball
I'm sorry you are moronic, even my grand mother can jump over a goomba in mario. Stick to tekken
Point is you need over 9000 more precise timing to jump over fireball comparing to spamming fireball.
Nope, all fireball spam is just as easy to avoid as a goomba, what makes it scary is the other player planning around you jumping in or blocking. There is no such thing as scary fireball spam with no follow up therefore a 1 move spam that actually hits anyone like in Tekken is impossible
It's ok just admit you're too dumb for anything more complicated than the shoryuken/hadoken formula.
I guarantee you that you can just make a moron controls macro for honda and get into master that way.
No, Tekken is shit and SF fans have been telling you this for decades. It's fricking hilarious that they gaslit the entire fgc into believing Tekken 7 was not only a "good" fighting game but the most complex one.
SF players have been relentlessly sucking Capcom's dick for a decade despite Capcom just shitting down their throats
Doesn’t stop SF6 from being a vastly superior game
It's not. Only Nippon cares about it now and that's because Capcom is paying off a huge amount of streamers and influencers to retain interest in the game.
it's mogging kekken on Steam, a platform with no japs
>a platform with no japs
Only during Jap hours. The game is dead outside of Jap hours and the sales are shit unless they put it on fire sale.
holy cope
SF V was so shit it almost killed my interest in the genre, I turned to Tekken to find a replacement and was horrified when I realised it was even worse.
MvC is dead, Ono fricked up so hard he got fired, SFV was shit on just as hard, if not harder than Tekken 8, you are coping and delusional
So..is that button good or not Tekken players? Or is that just knowledge check button?
It's fine and gonna catch out morons.
Any button is good when you're a moronic Victor player who hasn't quite figured out the block button
>skills
>no one ever
Fightans are a meme genre exclusively propped up by boomers who can't let go
the other player is just bad
https://m.twitch.tv/jimmashima
holy shit lmfao
eddy v eddy
>about to get demoted
It's over
HO LEE FOOK
Even mote hilarious players who beat him do it's mostly by trapping bot on wakeups.
Mash 3 Eddie bot absolutely crushes neutral game even against players he losses to.
keep in mind he's getting streamsniped too
>open stream
>Gets a PERFECT
wew
Wait, hold on.
The King he was facing went from losing by Perfect to getting 3 Perfects against the bot, by spamming one move.
I'm glad Tekken is finally exposed as the shitty kusoge it always was.
>hardstuck yellow
it's over
So is this like just pressing med kick in street fighter or something? Never played Tekken.
Like that, except every character has target combos. And Eddy in particular has stance transitions attached to his target combos. So if you mash left kick over and over, you will get a sequence of moves that puts him into a stance. Now mashing that same button gives you a different sequence of moves that puts you into a different stance. And so on.
It would except someone mashing m.K in SF can easily be countered by a competent player by spamming fireball or proper spacing.
Mashing 3 with eddy has autocombos, moves you forward, and gives constant 50/50s.
Even smash doesn't let you do this btw.
>smash babbys want to literally ban using the same move over and over
Y'all really haven't evolved even one bit
I forget zoomers are too young to know about brawl meta knight. Go watch a video essay or something zoom zoom then report back.
There’s a lot more to that post then just banning MK
Essentially, watch the webm
It's just spamming the same combo.
Imagine easy mode controls where you mash a single button and the game does the work for you except it's not on easy mode and mashing a single button by design gives you viable combos and pressure, he was deliberately designed like this to bring back memories of peoples youths where they picked eddy, mashed kicks and won.
>The absolute state of tekken
There's an old as frick MK where you can beat the entire game by just holding up and kick.
I thought tekken was the HARD fighting game?
Tekken is "hard" because it's hard to consistently beat facerolling morons. If you're a casual who doesn't care about consistency, it's fairly accessible.
90% of tekken's popularity is exactly because you can mash literally randomly and the character will do things that look like fighting. Even the old games are very mash friendly in a casual setting.
Harada described it that way himself.
Eddy was like this in his first game (3). Back then you had a decent backdash though so you didn't need to know shit about eddy to nuke it. But they've crippled backdashes all the way to Tekken 4 tier.
>so you didn't need to know shit about eddy to nuke it.
Apparently now his also has vet good hitboxes/hurtboxes and animation frames on his strings so it's very difficult to interrupt him from distance, his moves interrupt/evade opponents moves. That part of the moves us less obvious and isn't listed like frame list.
90% of Tekken's popularity comes from people playing Tekken 3 when they were a kid.
And that's because the characters feel the same. I didn't play between 3 and 7 and was able to do all the moves automatically when I got back in.
that's the best part about it: IT IS.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
now get ready for the 500 reply thread of fighting game gays coping and seething
It is but it comes with pay to win options.
Tekken isn't hard by any means. The "hard" part is memorizing moves, it's not even about playing good really.
It was hard, then by mid Tekken 7 it was made easy
It's only difficulty comes from a bloated roster with even more bloated move lists. Tekken 8 being successful with normies has shown without a shadow of a doubt that Tekken 'pros' are some of the absolute scrubiest and lowest skill ceiling 'pros' in the FGC. It's hilarious seeing them all getting exposed and crying that they're only losing the yoshimitsu SpongeBob cosplay because the game is too easy lmao.
Sure, buddy see you when JDCR wins evo again.
It’s not hard as much as it is characters have a lot of combos to learn and be aware of in higher ranks. It’s not hard to pickup and play if you have a foundation.
Tekken is unironically more casual than Mortal Kombat
the entire hoopla around this game at launch was that it's in the most accessible state it's ever been including an auto combo mode which i'm sure could be programmed as a bot as well
Tekken has a very high skill ceiling due to the literal dictionary of knowledge checks there are.
However, the skill floor is literally rock bottom
How did you get that idea
Blood Roar was the hard 3D fighter
The whole reason Tekken is the one that became popular and endured was because it was easier
Tekken was always considered a simpler game in the realm of fighters
Maybe you got this idea because you saw SF players or someone complaining their game was simplified but you have to realize those games were always more complex than Tekken and still are
Shouldn't you be posting your wojaks nubi?
Tekken is hard in the same way it's hard to win a rock paper scissors or mario party tournament, I don't know why people are so fricking dumb they confuse hyper compressed skill bands and luck with difficulty.
tekken appeases mashers way too hard and rewards people for not actually playing tekken
I haven't played Tekken since 4. Why are all the character designs so terrible now?
why do you think
Meds now
>And don't give that "4" shit.
No clue, might be the gradual move for more realistic and detailed graphics? Probably just that, heck SF6 has the same issue.
With sf6 it's the engine, even if i dislike some designs the concept design looks good in general, even lily who looks like a goblin looks fine.
I hate t8 graphics the most because even if t7 looked like shit moves were clean to see and stuff electrics had impact, also forced TAA always looks like a blurry mess and even if you manage to disable you still have a bunch of annoying particles
Another part of it is a push for modern and "stylish" designs. Look at Eddy here he's basically unrecognizable now except for his moveset.
casuals ruined video games
arent all fighting games like this? people trying to play the game losing to casuals button mashing is a tale as old as time
Not really, other fighting games wouldn't move you forward like this. Even on auto combos it wouldn't be any good also.
Melty bloods doesn't have this problem
JUMP C JUMP C JUMP C JUMP C
And that’s why it’s deader than dead
>rising jA
>Counter!
Heh…nothing personnel, KID
Mashy Blood would absolutely have that problem released into modern matchmaking.
No and it's not really a problem in Tekken after you learn the game. I think it's only an issue if you're really new and still learning. Just blocking makes 333 super punishable
Other games aren't nearly so bad but, yeah, dealing with some moron mashing is hard for newer players in every game. I don't think there's many genres where dealing with a dude playing like an idiot isn't a common hurdle really. Like, it's gonna be hard for someone new to shooters to deal with five guys just rushing the site through smoke with P90s in CS. It's probably pretty damn hard dealing with a zerg rush when you're new to RTS. Part of learning a game is learning how to stop your opponent from getting away with shit.
There wouldn't be legendary tales like Gandhi vs FSP if it was that common.
No, this has never been true of SF which is why it historically filtered most casuals. Tekken and soul calibur were always built to accommodate people who liked to mash.
Who was Eddie of the SC?
I remember kilik and maxi being spam lords when I was a kid.
Nightmare. When I was a kid I could just mash his sword buttons and usually dish out over half the life bar with just 1-2 touches.
Ganker is literally worse than a bot mashing 3
the absolute state of RPGgays
This doesn’t work in street fighter.
You could probably get to gold in SF6 with modern assist combos. The fact is these ranking systems where you can't rank down or the point loss is softened makes the bottom ranks super inflated. SF6 Master 1500 is the equivalent of SFV Super Platinum.
>You could probably get to gold in SF6 with modern assist combos
100%
Gold is where I got to before "taking a break" and a good 60% of my matches were against modern users just mashing
Sorry but you won't make it past iron if all you do is mash 1 button, you still need an operator. Only Tekken allows you to win games with absolutely no input.
you could easily program an e honda bot to do this same garbage. all fighting games have noob traps. you think dunkey is actually good at guilty gear and got to the top floor by being a good player, or did he just find a charge character and spam the most plus option?
Not really lmao it's literally impossible to do this one button mashing in SF6, otherwise you'd see the same thing.
arent there literally "simple combos" and "simple" styles in sf6?
SF bots are a little more complex, there is timestamps to see the moments when the bot do its thing
Kek, sfgays are coping hard.
If it could happen then do it. Even with as mashy as Tekken 8 Eddy is he can't even get out of orange ranks. There isn't any character as mashy as 3ddy in SF and orange is such a low rank I doubt a one button bot could make it past silver.
>you think dunkey is actually good at guilty gear and got to the top floor by being a good player, or did he just find a charge character and spam the most plus option?
Funny you should say that, I coped about this specifically every time I think about the short period of time I played Strive and only hit floor 10 with Millia despite having played anime fighters on and off for years while Dunkey hit Celestial doing as you just said with May. I STILL cope and tell myself it's because I tried playing a character harder than I could pull off. I like to think I redeemed myself hitting S+ in Rising
;_;
Dunkey's weird that despite being a variety hour comedy goblin, he actually does have a love for fighting games. How many people are going to post a fricking VF1 shitpost
No you can't, key to Honda's spam is actively blocking and avoiding shit while waiting for the opportunity to spam his headbutt. You cannot, no matter how scrubby the character, replicate this 1 button spam offensive.
this isnt surprising at all lol, destroyer is a low as frick rank, expect this thing to even out at garyu
Sounds accurate
It always boggles my mind how some people don't attempt trial and error and just lock-in the same flowchart. It's like those Elden Ring players that would choose to jump R2 even if they constantly go punished or lost too much stamina.
muscle memory is a b***h
>tries to wait and stand up after the beam whiffs
>the hitbox lingers and catches him anyway
lol
>homo-genius
A wonderful blast to the past, I really appreciate this
42 is still the best
and the ken tauntkill one
Eggman is in tekken?
he fightin robotnik?
How come this doesn't work in a game like Street Fighter?
you probably could by finding a move that moves you forward
maybe like SFIV Bison roundhouse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBQ5AS1kqBM
but even then you have to at least walk into range or you die to fireballs, it doesn't do a combo, it doesn't do a blockstring, it doesn't quickrise or reversal for you, I think it would do much worse.
Strive Sol f.S is the only other button I can think of, maybe it would get to floor 3 or something.
New (lol) Tekken chars start out OP then get nerfed in a later update
What was the last good Tekken (and SC too why not) game, where it was about skill, and not ridiculous combos and juggling and mashing and OP bullshit?
I want to say Tekken Tag, but Eddy still existed.
Also SC5 went down bullshit route too turning counters into rock/paper/scissors
IMO SC2 was the peak of the series overall but SC3 is still great and has more content. Every game after 2 and 3 all got glaring problems, so your enjoyment of the rest of the series boils down to personal preference, I enjoyed SC6 a lot despite the RPS mechanics being too prevalent. The things I hope that the devs have learned after 3 fricking games (not counting spinoffs) is:
>SP content is king in SC as shown with pretty much every "Best SC game" list having 2/3 at the top or close to it
>No seriously, SP content makes or breaks this fricking series and every attempt at making it more Esports focused has failed miserably
>Embrace the customisation aspects of the game since it is what has brought people into the series after SP content got slashed
>They need to get rid of their weird obsession with combos and counter mechanics, weapon based combat is supposed to be more neutral heavy simply because a sword, spear, dagger or axe is deadly if it just manages to nick you once in the wrong place.
Now, I'm not saying that they should go full autismo realism sim but we already have multiple fightan for techies, Bandai has made multiple of them themselves, so it's better if SC is just allowed to be its own thing. Just let the game be "casual" ffs, there is nothing wrong with it not being filled with gimmicks and overtly "complex" mechanics, they already have that with fricking Tekken
It's hard to say with tekken because I played thousands of hours of 3 and it didn't have moronic juggles that we knew of but I did abuse the frick out of Xiaoyu's ability to hit people on the ground, like if you get a knockdown or juggle you won't get much in the air but you get it on the ground instead so It's six of one vs half dozen of the other but at least everyone doesn't have to pretend gravity doesn't exist.
>I played thousands of hours of 3 and it didn't have moronic juggles that we knew of
simply put you were not good or aware
>anon links me a youtube video
>for a game I was playing in 1997
We didn't have immediate access to information back then like we do now you moronic c**t. We had prima guides and the people in our immediate vincinity. Best I ever got for finding information on a game in the 90s was a list of calibration figures for toyota carollas on Gran Turismo, that shit was fire on my car thobeit.
I was an arcade player in the late 90s, we had combos in T3 and TTT
A character had to have pretty exceptional combo filler to be able to go past 3-4 hits though, I hate the bound shit
I was just in a college town, prima didn't talk about juggle combos so we didn't know them. All of it was groups of dudes in dorms or apartments smoking blunts and passing the controller and you'd get someone from one group visiting another at best to spread info.
zaibatsu forums had everything annotated, everyone laughed at prima guide users on the internet.
okay homie, you guys were the vast minority though so it's not like your experience mirrored everyone at the time. Even a decade after when we're talking when internet access was more widespread about few people who played a game ever talked about it online
Weird cope when you could've just said you're moronic.
moron
>I didn't know about thing so it never existed
>anon remembers posting about tekken on a forum with a couple dozen other people in 1997
>this means that everyone playing tekken then was doing that
Correct.
Glad you agree.
Zaibatsu forums did not even exist in 1998 little liar
Zaibatsu forums in 1998? Damn son. You have a funny definition of "everyone".
GO IHATEN GO
>try to look this up on twitch
>live but doesn't come up in the search bar when you type it in, you have to go to through the search in a new window
>twitch is censoring this bot from search results
lol
>FIGHTING GAMES NEED SIMPLER CONTROLS!!!!
>you can play Tekken with 1 button
>they still get filtered
lol what the frick
racism lost 🙁 1 to 1
Not a fightinggay but haven't people been meming about Eddy being a button mash character since literally the PS1 era?
Yes this is nothing new. He is also a DLC character who you aren't allowed to lab and aren't even allowed to control in replays unless you bought him. His kit is also extremely obtuse and awkward because literally everything he does visually looks like it could be a mid or low so it's really obnoxious to deal with and is 100% a knowledge check legacy character. It's why scrubs love using him, and also why scrubs get so much success with him. Just watch the web, and you can see why it is so effective. It's honestly shocking how relentlessly he goes at it in the string and if you aren't familiar with him it's going to be miserable. Eddy, Hwoarang, Lee, and a few others are like this. I honestly hate these frickers and I don't know why they leave them like this. Legacy players know how their bullshit works so it's completely redundant, but everyone else hates it. If these characters are ever DLC it means you can't even sit in training mode to learn how the nonsense works. To make matters worse, everything they do looks exactly the same and are based on reused animations that are almost 30 years old now
Good news, Azucena is also bullshit and she's new!
he is, biggest issue is that Tekken 7 brought in a ton of new fighting game players that don't know how to block for low attacks, and also tekken 8 has really fricked damage right now so characters that are meant to be fast hit disproportionately hard.
this is the rep tekken has always had and what the players deal with every time from non-tekken players.
>the guy that kept eating combos and claims the entire game is about who gets launched first
>the button masher beating people who don't know their frame data or how to punish
>the guy that thinks mashing 10-strings is what the good players do
the funniest part about this is that it doesn't even really need a "bot"
if your controller has a turbo function you can do this, just tape the button down and walk away. Even on console.
RACISM WON!!!!!!!!
CALL TWITCH CHAT THEY'RE CRYING!
>shit gay homosexual fricker "games"
Literal meme genre
t. lost to a bot
Coming from the perspective of a complete outsider, how dire is this for the state of tekken's playerbase?
this is how shit has been since 3, eddy is a scrub killer
He's still in scrub ranks, so it's a blow up to casuals
Tekken has always been scrubby since forever. Give it a year and everyone's gimmicks will be solved or nerfed and the same old passive keep away playstyle will dominate.
Not dire at all.
Eddy mashing 3 has always been a thing to cheese people out.
tekken 8 is a regression
theres nothing it does better than 7
Why would you fall for a moron
are these the games you fighting games fans are claiming to be harder then league and dota
That's just tekken though
yeah, league players can't even beat a mashing bot
I don't play Tekken, is there a reason his opponents can't just meaty him after getting one hit to easily win?
Meaty doesn't exist in kekken
Really? You mean, like, the opponent can attack with invuln after a knockdown, no resource requirement or anything? I would HATE dealing with that
None of what you said is how Tekken works.
Could you explain what causes meaties not to exist, then? The concept confuses me, given how universal meaties are to the genre
opponent can delay his wakeup and now your meaty is a whiff. of course the bot is just mashing 3 and won't delay, but his opponents don't know that
you can delay your wake up in most fighters, they're usually called delay techs
not SF6, the most important fighting game rn
Delay tech is not the same as picking when to wakeup. You can stay lying on the ground for the entire round if you want in tekken.
Meaties do exist. You're talking to people probably don't even play.
You don't even know what meaties are moron. It simply doesn't exist in kekken because the oki play is moronic.
You can meaty you fricking dumbass you just need to know when they're going to get up. It isn't fricking hard you just need to use a shoulder or axe kick with a ton of active frames.
>You can meaty you fricking dumbass you just need to know when they're going to get up
>you just need to know when they're going to get up
lmao you're a fricking moron
Not him but variable wakeup timings don't mean meaties don't exist, just that you have to try and choose a timing to cover. There are plenty of games with delayed wakeups or quick getups, and meatying isn't fake in those, it's just not perfectly consistent. Some characters may even have setups that cover multiple wakeup options
other games have 1-2 wakeup timings, tekken has infinity
read
also you guys are moronic
no one is playing tekken trying to guess wake up timing pretending that the game has "meaties" when you're basically risking a whiff, block or a wake up counter for such a low reward
you aren't going to get a combo for this shit
Tekken is about hitting different heights, more so than any other fighting game.
So you have high, medium and low hits. There's little to no "invunlerable" moves there are some which are say a high or low crush.
Wake up also is a state in tekken so you can only do certain options such as rolling, get up attacks or fast get up.
You can't really just do a wake up DP like SF6.
>You can't really just do a wake up DP like SF6.
It's funny because Harada really loves 2D games so much that the Heat engager button is basically a DP
I don't understand, just remove 3D together if you don't like you moronic homosexual, why does everything have homing now
SF6 is more of a 3D game than Tekken 8 since it has jumps and air movement/control.
Yeah, that's the problem with them constantly nerfing movement. It just turns the game into an incredibly shitty and shallow 2D game
Not really, but meaty doesn't exist because the opponent on the ground can pick when to wake up.
They could but they aren't good enough to recognize what he's doing
He's in ranks that are considered bronze. Most players there don't even know what a meaty is
>Spanish troony GTA V streamer got to top17 in evo japan
It's literally more of a party game than smash
what game? some obscure bullshit that 17 other players in the world play?
the troony containment game atm is strive
Tekken got more entrants than Strive
cope
That troony got in tekken pools moron. Also undefeated btw LMAO
might
pp status?
Holy frick does tekken 8 cater to noobs when one button smashing is this effective now.
No wonder nobody likes the game.
>now
People were doing the same with Eddy in 3. Dunno why you're larping.
>40% win rate
literal non issue
i meam that is accurate to how Eddy has always been
with heat and current damage eddy is far worse than ever.
Why morons keep saying this? Previous eddy needs at least 2 buttons to get any combos, that's why the meme is mashing 3 and 4 while moving random directions like hwoarang.
Eddy literally spamming only 3 and gives auto combos, forward movement and 50/50 is new to tekken 8.
This board does not understand fighting games
You are all fools biting on bait, ignoring how Jim Mashima is based
This. It also exposes that majority of Ganker don't actually play games. What Jim Mashima is doing is giving free wins to half decent people and the brain dead flowchart players get dumpstered by 3ddy.
>already 503 fights
jesus
but could it be that the bot simply plays so many games?
you just destroyed the idea of subjective experience gj
Lol it is not vanquisher. It's hard stuck yellow ranks because it keeps demoting. I would like to see it get to red at least
What happened to tekken 8? Havent follow much about it on a while. Pre-launch seems to have a good start to it and heard some good things during the first few weeks but after that I see complaints. Was thinking on getting it.
boomers mad they can't win by spamming asiaticdash all day
Non-Tekken fans that are used to flow chart gameplay from other fighting games are having a hard time adapting against scrubby mechanics which is the core gameplay in Tekken series. Pros biggest gripe is more about Heat system.
Unironically spamming the same kick button was how I used to play Tekken against my friends on the PSP while we take turns during recess.
>check the stream
>its dominator now
is that higher or lower
lower
It's hardstuck at yellow/orange and has been for over 15 hours
Best part was when it took a fricking match(won 3 rounds) from someone on an 8 win streak putting an end to it and even got a Perfect on him. They fully recognized what they were doing too. Some stupid fricks in Tekken.
>guy beats the bot
>rematches
>gets 3-0'd
>rematches gets 3-0'd again
Fricking how do you play against a single button 10 rounds in a row and still not pick up on what it's doing?
If you don't know Eddy you'd think all those moves are entirely different from one another. Due to that, the 3 spamming Eddy is the ultimate gatekeeper.
Why is there a black person in this fighting game? No meme answers, please.
Just another proof that the average online gamer is too moronic to press buttons properly
I think Elden Ring is a better fighting game than actual fighting games.
>rollslop
>bad netcode
>literally no moves
>no high/low/mids
I can tell you're bronze and would lose to 3ddy bots.
Just because it's easier for you to win doesn't make it better
You literally picked the game with the most basic combat to compare to fighting games
Souls already has PVP and it's so bad people literally mod it out of the game lmao
It's simplicity is what makes it good. There are enough different moves.
>Bad netcode
I'll give you that. Feels good when it works though.
>My auto"correct" switched my "its"
frick this shit, I hate phonegayging.
the simplicity is what makes it bland and there aren't enough strengths and weaknesses for every attack because they have to be a one-size fits all
It's checkers vs chess.
For Tekken a ws1 is weak against lows, meaty mids, sidestep, blocking, and being stubby. There are so many ways to counter this extremely powerful attack you can't force a stupid 50/50 situation by doing it like you can roll in neutral because there isn't a single catch-all move that can counter every option a player has against ws1. You have to study their patterns and condition a player not to use options like using tracking moves to prevent them from sidestepping. Even then tracking moves generally can be either ducked or are slow and can be beaten by jabs, so you can't abuse the conditioning because every action has at least 3 counters. It's not just bait the roll from someone with trash reaction times and hope the netcode lets you punish.
Tekken: Chess
DS: Go
'nuff said
Dark Souls is just rollslop with bad netcode. You guys just stalemate with zero thought besides roll and pray for a punish
Is that how you cope with bad red man raping your anus?
the Souls PvP community is garbage and never end up killing me
I won't read all of that, but you can make your fantasy about muh strength and weakness for every attack. But in reality based on this thread, fighting game apparently can be played by just pressing the same button over and over again, and it will still make you better than half of the player base
Creating a bloated moveset won't necessarily improve the game either. Also, have you forgotten that the thread topic is literally about a bot mashing the same button repeatedly and still outperforming half of the player base?
>have you forgotten that the thread topic is literally about a bot mashing the same button repeatedly and still outperforming half of the player base?
No. Isn't this the whole point? That if the game can be dominated with one move that's a clear problem with the game's design? You're basically just proving yourself wrong.
>Lots of moves
>Only one is good anyway
vs
>few moves but enough range among them.
Even L2 spam in ER isn't as bad as kusoken.
Judging Tekken by newbie bronze play is pretty sad. Remember this Eddy is beating ER players, not Tekken players
You are the gays always claiming how deep your games are and yet spamming a single button throws out some kind of combo. This is worse than Moonveil/rivers of blood. I remember a time when pressing one button would just spam a single animation.
>soul slopper thinks pressing one button is good when it applies to her game
How did this thread attract so many Souls shitters that have never even played a Tekken game in their life
Tekken has had one button strings since day 1 and the vast majority of strings don't naturally combo
I don't care that Tekken was always bad.
a combo that is easily punishable by anyone with more than a minutes of knowledge
Yeah no shit 3ddy is destroying rollsloppers and no one else. That's why he's hardstuck at orange and can't climb despite over 500 games.
He looks complex to you because your entire gaming experience has been franchises where you don't have to count past 5.
Red man make you cry? Didn't think that estus cancel was fair? Didn't like the hard swap?
The realities DS is much more deep, whereas your game has simulated complexity that's as wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle.
Red players are free, but you can't even figure out a simple 333 string
>He looks complex
Strawman argument.
It's not about complexity. It's pure knowledge check character. His strings have no visual clues about there properties. Normal visual clues are like your blocked move and know you now are on advantage and can interrupt next move. Eddie has no such whatsoever.
Disconnection bettwen animations and actual effect is never good thing any game and for PvP especially.
he's an oddball, but he makes sense if you look at his body language
when leans back that means his kick is generally going to be high and duckable, a straight or hunched over crouch is a low, and rising or standing is generally mid.
He's a knowledge check character because he's different from every other character, but his attacks and how they work are mostly logical based on his center of gravity.
anon Souls absolutely does not have "enough range"
The whole series barely even has a basic combat triangle and that's only after ER added jumping
What do you need a gay triangle for. You guys are propagandized believing all this junk. First a literal Nintendo Party game blew all you guys the frick out at the start of the decade and then some janky ARPG did it again in the next one.
literally lol'ing at kekken fans, not even DOA has this issue, not even smash or MK. Also a troony doms the game LMAO worse than the black furry somehow in MK, Never say you the most skilled fightan again LMAO. KEKKEN EXPOSED
Eddy is geniunely a piece of shit p2w character with awfully telegraphed moves. Even pros at Evo are struggling with the match up.
Seems pretty normal to me.
This is what happens when you make your fighting games for all the casuals.
Tekken 8 look's pretty fun, is it possible to just switch my brain off and relax with a game like this? just mash through casual matches without having to study movesets and stuff?
No.
Frick off soulshitter.
no you'll get hardstuck
you can only do that vs new players or the cpu
I’m just gonna keep blowing people up with basic b***h strike/throw mixups in Strive
>no one posted it yet
https://streamable.com/kl92bs
for me its
Classic
Mr. Wilson would struggle and fail to adapt, as he usually does
Beautiful mental breakdown
Thanks for sharing anon
>reina
understandable mental breakdown
however king Black folk aren't allowed to have an opinion
looks almost like virtua fighter
When is this homosexual gonna get banned?
Using bots of any kind is against the Tekken TOS.
They should make a bot that just randomly presses buttons. Use either Eddy or maybe Law/Victor/Jin.
This thread is yet another reminder that fightans are fricking dogshit and always were.
F-f-filtered.
Didn’t ask scrub
>Eddy presses button
>wins
I remember this game it was called Tekken 3
I haven't played since the ps1 days. I'm amazed that Eddie is still a cheat.
You think LTG would be able to beat him?
Must be painful reality being a fighting game fan nowdays uh?
3ddy is now demoted in yellow ranks. All it does it teach people to recognize pattern play. I say this is a good thing. I hope someone makes a Demoman Paul or Junkyard Law.
Two games with single button supers and combos asks the tough question...WHICH...is more for baby
>589 people watching a bot spam 3 right now
the frick?
>the viewer count is slowly going up
>>the viewer count is slowly going up
account ban incoming
it was like 1.5K at one point
I think at the end of the day, capcom made no effort to stop modders from putting cammy in mostly naked outfits, while harada is banning modders who just want to get rid of the manly feet and no asses and small breasts.
>just block lma0
Tekken is more complex than your 2d animeshit fighter moron
tekken players could not last 2 seconds against a carl clover player in blazblue
>Ganker talking about fighting games
>nu-tekkek
>they actually decided to publish this
What the frick is wrong with Japs?
>at release
>IS THAT A LE HECKIN JOJO REFERENCE?! is that bleach! is that dark souls?!?
>now
>ugh nu-kekken lol it's so cheeeesy
peak japkino
>Fighting game?
It's fine because the actual final battle and webm related is unironically kino
> 3
Huh? What xbox button is named 3?
It's the tekken naming convention.
2
1 4
3
1 and 2 are hands
3 and 4 are legs
I AM THE LORD OF TEKKEN
I WILL AIR JUGGLE YOU TO DEATH
a game based entirely around whiff cancelable normals will forever be a joke game for moron mashers that just want to guess on 50/50s after 50/50s till the end of time.
Kekken has always been shit. This isn't even exclusive to eddy, look at this shit lmao
>look at this thing that will never happen in a real game
It's cool to look at I guess
I hate that they added capos to T8. All it does is make a shit game worse.
I don't feel like anyone who plays tekken has a right to further matches with anyone else. If I keep playing with someone, fine but I'm not doing anything wrong if I don't, for whatever reason.
But fighting game gays always says how fighting games are so hard and the best competitive genre?
Fighting games are meant to be played by children or drunks against their friends at an arcade.
They were never difficult. Can't believe this genre even still exists and has multiple franchises receiving new entries every couple years still.
Fighting games are dead loovk at their players numbers vs say LoL
The point of fireballs isn't to damage your opponent but to condition them into making a bad move.
Parry them
Is 3 a left kick? Just got into fighting games
Generally speaking most of Tekken's buttons are limb based yeah. Left punch, right punch, left kick, right kick
3 is the "a" button or the "x" button on PlayStation, in Tekken this is left kick yes.
Forsen should come back with new character.
>morons unironically comparing this to fireball
stupid Black folk
a fireball takes more than one button to do
a fireball gets blocked universally
a fireball doesn't combo
meanwhile this garbage is literally one button, has 50/50s and has autocombo
you guys are fricking morons who don't play fighting games
You're acting like this is the first fighting game with an autocombo
>a fireball gets blocked universally
only against human beings
the rank this is working at,m the people there are not sapient
You're a fricking moron, you don't need to guess high or low to block a fireball. Eddy's 3 mash cycles from low and high hitting moves. You are a clueless moron. Don't talk to me.
>you don't need to guess high or low to block a fireball
You don't need to guess Eddy's 33333 because
A) it's the same moves every single time
B) you can just block the first string and use your heavy plus frames to interrupt the second
You're acting like this string isn't trivial to block and punish (or interrupt)
You don't need to memorise how to block Eddy's 3333
Just hold block on the move, then interrupt the next move
homie you can watch the stream and see all these people trying to interrupt the string, amazing how you morons can pretend that these solutions are easy when there's a stream right now proving that wrong
see
you could stream someone walking into 50 fireballs, that wouldn't make repeating fireballs hard to deal with
>you could stream someone walking into 50 fireballs
The difference is that this shit will never happen, on the other hand we have a stream proving mashing 3 with eddy works.
I can guarantee you they're trying to interrupt with something way too slow, or after they're getting hit by the initial move and they're minus and trying to interrupt then. You can literally just dick jab a ton of it.
Because despite what people want to say, there is in fact a lot of depth to what happens once people get past the mashing shit. There's a reason at the absolute highest level of play it's not Eddy spamming 3, and is instead much more compact safe play. A lot of stuff in Tekken has an answer to it, people are just unaware of it. Many 2d fighters you either don't dial in combos, though MK and MVC do come to mind, or there's answers that are invincible like DPs so the way the game functions requires a different type of knowledge. When there's 4 ways to move and a high low system, and defense is based around all of it, there's a lot to learn and you will no doubt sometimes die to things that you've forgotten how to deal with because there's so much. But good players are reminded by that initial loss what the answer is.
high/mid/low system, I'd assume most can understand what I mean though. Also I'm not saying Tekken players are geniuses or some stupid shit. It's just pattern recognition and being willing to learn things over time.
Every FG has knowledge checks. You would just look at them differently when it comes to 2d games, like frame traps.
It's trivial as long as you go into training mode and memorise the frame data, now do this for the 50000 other moves and spammy strings in the game. Now you understand why "learning" to play Tekken is boring as frick and why knowledge check simulator sucking sucks.
There are people in this stream, at the lowest rank, who get hit by the move once or twice, realise what is happening and then get a triple perfect
You don't need to practice it
Is your mental capacity unable to learn a string? Does your brain hurt recognising patterns?
Do you think knowledge checks make for an interesting competition? Or would you like to actually play with another human brain?
You're acting like auto combos aren't trivial to block and punish for even a complete newcomer in any other game. Their function in other games is just to extend damage once you win neutral, in Tekken a combo is neutral for hundreds of not thousands of hours.
>I've learned how input fireball
>I am master of the gaming
And people wonder why Tekken tards are one of the most annoying fanbases in the entire industry. It's absolute morons who have a culture of self delusion that makes them think they are geniuses, the absolute worst combination.
It's just Eddy having a string that goes into a stance that has a different string that comes from it which then goes into a different stance that has the same thing. It's funny as frick that people are losing to a knowledge gap, and you fricking morons are calling them 50/50s and autocombos. It's literally a string that once you know what it looks like, you can just crouch and kill them.
You don't need to memorize how to block a fireball you stupid mouthbreathing Black person
I didn't even mention what you said about the fireball you fricking idiot.
And yes, I'm aware of that video. That's unfortunately the nature of a game where you can dial in strings. It's also quite hard to anticipate what someone is going to do when they have no idea what they're doing. That's a rough combo. It's especially frustrating for Tekken players that are mid level that have stopped mashing because they will lose to mashers despite having moved out of the phase.
Why do Tekken players put up with it? This isn't a problem in any normal skill based game and certainly not any other major 2d fighter.
>Why do Tekken players put up with it?
by not being a shitter?
Can you not comprehend that you are solving an issue that does not and should not exist in a skill based game? You are solving the same problem a mario kart player has to.
what do you mean? the issue is literally solved by getting better at the game, there's a reason the bot is still in yellow ranks
This isn't a new or contained problem with Tekken, there's literally a webm of a baby beating a pro player in Tekken 7 by mashing. Tekken has always been made fun of for this shit, it's only now that it's so clear and undeniable, there's a bot with thousands of people watching that is repeating this experiment 24/7
>there's literally a webm of a baby beating a pro player in Tekken 7 by mashing
taking 1 round is not winning
mid-high ranks is not pro levels
you're clueless lad
Kek this cope. This does not happen in other fighting games yet you accept it as normal. If a 2 year old knocked out mike Tyson people would be questioning wether boxing was a sport for b***hes, not coping with i-i-its just o-one round, t-t-the baby is OP, t-the move he used is weird!
>This does not happen in other fighting games
Now keep in mind Gandhi is a pro player and not a random Ruler rank
>Gandhi
FSP, rather*
FSP isnt a pro player, moron.
He's fricking shit at fighting games and a troony now too.
>Grown ass man with hundreds of not thousands of hours of online gimmick play winning in a tournament setting is the same as a literal baby mashing random buttons
Kek, you have to reach so hard to find anything remotely as bad.
If you know anything about Tekken and SF then you know Gandhi and the kid on Leeroy were playing just as badly as each other, only it's SF4 where the moron not only took one round then immediately got adjusted to, this guy beat him in a set
>This isn't mashing one button.
see
This isn't mashing one button.
you'll have to excuse sftards, they can't fathom actually opening practice mode and do something other than combos
>you now realize dsp and ltg were correct about modern tekken design
just learn every character's moveset bro it's not that hard haha wtf my game genre is dead how could this happen must be the fort night kids and their team games
>duuuuuuude just memorize the knowledge check isn't it so hecking hardcore???
this "fighting game" is an embarrassment to the entire genre
Kekken players think memorizing frame data and move properties are the essence of fighting games lmao. homosexuals have never experienced spacing just the right distance for the right read.
>stand block
>then punish
this is too complicated for SFkeks apparently