The anime has single-handedly had the best portrayal of what a true Champion is more than any other leg in this franchise

The anime has single-handedly had the best portrayal of what a true Champion is more than any other leg in this franchise

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    yeah and that's steven in XY

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >claims he is strongest
      >loses to Ash
      ??

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I love how this pic is like 7 years old and looks 10x more detailed than how the anime looks nowadays

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        XY was retconned

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >True champion
    >cheats to win
    Makes sense

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      COPE

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >cheats to win
      ?? Iris didnt win

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Cynthia has a doped mega stone just like Alain did in XY. Makes no sense why a -2 Garchomp's Draco Meteor would get more powerful.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Makes no sense why a -2 Garchomp's Draco Meteor would get more powerful.
          Could be that the stat stage reset upon Mega Evolution.
          Wouldn't be the first time a mon went back to full HP after Mega (Alain's MCX in Kalos League)

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They need to cheat for her to win.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >cheats to win

          >Gastrodon died from a K.O move
          >Milotic used 1% of her power with the Disarming Voice shit

          >cheats to win

          >cheats to win

          >cheats to win

          Hahahahahaha

          >muh game mechanics
          People don't have stamina bars in real life.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They sometimes have them in the anime, for whatever sense that makes.

            What does it matter
            Cynthia is stronger than everyione besides Ashes plot armor

            And Leon who is objectively ranked higher than her on a global competitive scale.

            >Masters
            >Pokémon Go
            >Pokken
            >Mystery Dungeon

            Don’t forget let’s go

            >This gen
            So just Masters.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >And Leon
              nah, Leon is confirmed to be weaker than her
              >Cynthia is referred to be the strongest Dragon-type user (leon is Dragapult user)
              >Cynthia is the strongest all rounder, she prefers to let her opponent’s move first and can adapt to any situation

              >ranked
              old carryover irrelevant data, especially when lower ranks are being shown to beat higher ranks

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Irrelevant carryover data
                >Literally the world champion
                Being the previous world champion makes him automatically a more proven contender than anyone else in the PWT. Also, Leon's not categorized as a dragon user and the competition's fricking Lance and Iris, so that's just a sad thing to try and use as a metric of strength. But keep reaching, you won't get there but it's nice that you try.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                the world champion
                against Lance(lol)
                not against anyone relevant
                You'll have your undisputed #1 IF he manages to beat Ash...

                >Leon's not categorized as a dragon user
                Yes he is, he uses a Dragapult (a pseudo dragon at that).
                Cynthia is not dragon master/trainer or anything either, yet SHE is stated to be the strongest dragon user - just because she has a Dragon type (exactly same as Leons situation)

                >competition's
                Anyone that uses a Dragon type. That literally what it says.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Not against anyone relevant
                Who cares if you were literally ranked the single best trainer in the world last year, these literal unranked contestants are obviously better than you.
                >Yep he is
                No, he's not. And you literally can't prove otherwise.
                >that literally what it says
                No, it doesn't.

                Pokken Deluxe, Masters, Let’s Go, and Mystery Dungeon are all Gen 8. And the Megas update for Go came out in 2020

                Pokken and Let's Go are gen 7, and Rescue Team DX literally has no gen 8 features of any kind. GO is debatable because it doesn't release shit in generational formats to begin with but I'll concede it on a technicality.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Found where you work.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                is referred to be the strongest Dragon-type user (leon is Dragapult user)
                is the strongest all rounder, she prefers to let her opponent’s move first and can adapt to any situation
                I keep seeing this, where's this from

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                [...]

                latest Pokefan magazine translations

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do you know where I can get scans from this issue?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That just means her Garchomp is stronger than his Dragapult. She’s using the strongest dragon in the tourney, that’s all.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Pokken Deluxe, Masters, Let’s Go, and Mystery Dungeon are all Gen 8. And the Megas update for Go came out in 2020

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >0- SpA Mold Breaker Haxorus Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4- SpD Garchomp-Mega: 128-152 (35.8 - 42.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
        >252 Atk Mold Breaker Haxorus Psycho Cut vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp-Mega: 74-88 (20.7 - 24.6%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
        >>"0+ SpA Garchomp-Mega Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Haxorus: 476-564 (162.4 - 192.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >competitive calculations
          Holy autism

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Why is it that when you homosexual do this, you never take in account about the -2 from the previous Draco Meteor?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Math brainlets.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They accepted the cheating and that the stats will not go down.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            if neutral does 160-190% then -2 will do 80-95%. it ain't ohko but hax ain't at full health either.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >being a good trainer is cheating

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >having genetic freak dragon boosting powers is "being a good trainer"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >cheats to win

      >Gastrodon died from a K.O move
      >Milotic used 1% of her power with the Disarming Voice shit

      >cheats to win

      >cheats to win

      >cheats to win

      Hahahahahaha

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Literally anyone else can do the same moronic mega evolution thingy, she looked like a tryhard which she is.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      She looked cool and focused

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    LOL
    >le goodie two shoes
    Nope.

    The manga has the right portrayal
    >Evil
    >Rule over the region with an iron fist
    >Kill whoever they want, whenever they want
    >The world's cruelest dictators

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >lose to a literal kid with a "muh power of friendship" arsepull
      >THEN gets the previous arc's big bad giving him the "this is why you suck dude" speech
      LOL

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >anime showcasing Megas left and right
    >Megas have actually been completely removed this Gen with no signs of ever returning in the games again

    What the frick is this franchise

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Megas are at least in GO, which the anime also promotes.

      It's worse for Z-moves because those aren't available ANYWHERE right now and are still shilled in the anime.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Those sync moves in Masters are basically Z-moves.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The issue is that you have to pass actual trials to use Z-moves and it's apparently easier to get Mega bands than Max bands, since Iris couldn't get one.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's the other way around, mega stones were established as so rare not even the professor researching mega evolution had one at first, and you'd have to dedicate lots of time searching for one if you wanted one. Z-Crystals on the other hand was something anyone could get by just going to one of the guys handing them out and passing a quick test.

        The anime suddenly giving everyone and their mom a mega is terrible writing going completely against what they established earlier.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They weren't rare in XY, were made even more common ORAS, and the anime never even hinted at it being rare. People could get Mega Stones if they wanted, they were even being sold in stores, the issue was knowing all the steps involved in using it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >and the anime never even hinted at it being rare
            Sycamore, the guy that actually researches mega evolution, has to beg Diantha to let him research her Gardevoir because she's the only person in the entire world known to have a mega. Alan sets out to find a mega stone to aid their research and spends years looking for one with no luck. It was heavily implied that people that had mega Pokemon shut the frick up about it and kept it a secret unless they knew their opponent had one as well. In the league, the only people besides Alan and the previously established guys from the first mega special to have any were two super nerds you could believe would dedicate tons of time searching one out.

            They were absolutely hinted at being incredibly rare and not something Joe Average had a chance of obtaining.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That wasn't the stones being rare, anon, it was the information around them being rare. The anime had random nobodies with Megas even in the Kalos seasons, the Mega Evolution specials were just written like shit fanfic because that's exactly what they were.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >the stones weren't rare, they were just hard to find

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, because physical stones and info pertaining to them are the same thing.

                Not him, but if the guy researching the stones can't even find one that doesn't already belong to someone else, they're clearly pretty rare.

                Except they're not. They quite literally are found all over Kalos and are distributed by specialists and even stores. Sycamore's not exactly great at his job.

                >true champion
                >needs a gimmick advantage to win against base Haxorus

                Iris gimmicked first you watched the battle, anon. And her gimmick's racially locked.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >They quite literally are found all over Kalos and are distributed by specialists and even stores.
                No they're not. That store selling Kanto mega stones is a video game only thing (and in the video game Sycamore DID have copies of those stones), and aside from those almost every mega stone is found postgame and attributed to SYCAMORE figuring out how to use the Sundial to locate them.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Iris gimmicked first
                Cope, she was not using megas, z-moves, nor daimax.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                She used Dragon Heart, a gimmick so insignificant, it didn't appear in the games.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                She literally has an anime-original 1 in 1 million people can do it gimmick like Ash-Greninja,

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Cope, her scene with Haxorus is just a reference from BW2 games.
                >Ash-Greninja
                Did Haxorus change its visual appearance? No? Then shut the frick up.
                >She literally has an anime-original 1 in 1 million people can do it
                And Clair, Diantha, Anabel, N, etc...
                No matter how much you spin it Iris' talent is not a gimmick slot limited by PWC.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not him, but if the guy researching the stones can't even find one that doesn't already belong to someone else, they're clearly pretty rare.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Anime
      Literally EVERYTHING is showcasing Megas left and right. Everything but the mainline games.
      I will never for the sake of my life understand why they decided to drop Megas to keep introducing new gimmicks that will then get dropped again for yet another new gimmick.
      And they're even triple-downing on it with SV apparently introducing like four different gimmicks all in one go that will most certainly never be expanded upon and thrown into the trash for whatever gimmick Gen 10 introduces.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Game Freak is genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, completely incompetent. They are held back by a shitty fricking leader in Junichi Masuda and the brass, top to bottom, simply won't do anything about it because 1. nobody wants to lose a check and 2. Japanese people just don't protest against shitty fricking bosses and they don't quit either because salaryman culture.

        Pokemon will NEVER change because there is zero reason for it to change to begin with. Why stop the money printing machine? Even when they frick up, they still win.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Masters
      >Pokémon Go
      >Pokken
      >Mystery Dungeon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Don’t forget let’s go

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Literally every spinoff has Megas, even the evolutions specials had Megas. Home got a Mega Evolution update. The only branch of the franchise that doesn’t have Megas is, you guessed it, the main games.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's almost as if they've anointed them the gimmick of the spin-offs.
        Mind I do expect GO to introduce Z-Moves with Necrozma, so maybe the others will end up getting them in some fashion going forward.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cinthiagays keep changing the story, before they said Cynthia doesn't use or need any megas to win but now that she's used one they're spamming cope
    Did everyone magically forget when people were saying Leon would job her because of dynamax and they were cope posting?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What does it matter
      Cynthia is stronger than everyione besides Ashes plot armor

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >make up headcanon to cope
      >get btfod as the anime progresses, because it was headcanon
      >try to bury the old headcanon and make up a new one
      It's just the Cynthiagay cycle.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They sure did by beating Iris who don't use regional gimmicks.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Mega Stones were rare in XY
    >Sawyer got a Sceptilite offscreen
    >Fricking Trevor had a Charizardite Y
    >A random Nurse Joy with Mega Audino
    >Astrid with Mega Absol
    >That dude with Mega Garchomp
    >All those nameless randoms Alan fought
    If Sycamore couldn't find a mega stone is because he's a lazy motherfricker

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And he has no excuse now because in Journeys an entire island full of mega stones just randomly appeared one day

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >how do all these randos suddenly have these stones that were established a very rare?
        >uh, this magic island suddenly appeared one day and they found them there
        Good writing.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Sawyer got a Sceptilite offscreen
      >Fricking Trevor had a Charizardite Y
      The obsessive data collection dude and the literal autist managing to autistically track down some really rare bullshit isn't really that weird

      And he has no excuse now because in Journeys an entire island full of mega stones just randomly appeared one day

      He got one halfway through XY. Did you even watch it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He is though. He didn't do shit when his best friend tried to nuke the region

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        He did help fighting Team Flare in the anime.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile none of the main cast members had a mega in the season dedicated to megas

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's worse than that, Diancie was the ONLY gen 6 mon to get a Mega, they didn't even bother giving the starters one to promote it, instead only the gen 1 and 3 starters got it. XY aren't the Mega evolution games, ORAS are.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The hell are you talking about? XY introduced the fricking concept itself and they still didn’t get anything after shilling ORAS

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >true champion
    >needs a gimmick advantage to win against base Haxorus

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What weeping Iristards do not realize that they look worse? Literally that dwarf only beat Gastrodon with a KO move the cheapest shit ever.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Steven and Cynthia are champions done right.

    They are intimidating yet caring
    goofy quirks yet respectable
    true super heroes and yet the player's biggest enemies

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't find Steven intimidating at all.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it's because you lack imagination. This thing is s 2.5 m floating killing machine, and it's 4 times smarter than you, which means if it thinks you are redundant it will kill you in a heartbeat

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Even Lance's big barney is more intimidating.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much.
      Cynthia putting the fear of God on Iris made me respect her as a Champion a million times more than THIS IS LEON THE INVINCIBLE UNBEATABLE STRONGEST CHAMPION DON'T YOU LOVE LEON THE UNBEATABLE INVINCIBLE STRONGEST CHAMPION LOOK IT'S THE UNDEFEATED CHARIZARD LOVE HIM LOVE HIM LOVE HIM the anime keeps shoving down my throat.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I know Though I wouldn't mind them shoving Steven down my throat if you catch my drift

        But Leon sucks and I can't wait for gen9 champ to cancel his era

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    so what is ash gonna do after beating all these champions? go back to struggling against early gym leaders next gen?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You know it.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >make a "strongest" champion
    >don't do anything to make him harder to beat than any other games champ
    >he's ironically one of the easiest
    Does gf know how their own games work???

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cause him being the best is anime bullshit. Its an anime original idea to shill sword.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I love her, bros

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