The baron has revived the ancient historical practice of ättestupa. Anyone age 50+, except for the baron himself, must be thrown off a cliff and die. This is to preserve resources that would be wasted on old people.
Some peasants are rebelling. The baron wants your party to crush the rebellion.
Which does your party side with?
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do the son-in-laws specifically have the right to toss their mother-in-laws?
No, not the mama(s).
The peasants. Clearly if it's an ancient practice that had to be revived it is no longer necessary for survival. This makes him a dangerous schizo or a greedy psychopath for trying to force people to bring it back, and amply justifies overthrowing him.
which one of these is the better answer?
Sounds like the baron should lead by example. Over the edge you go, gramps.
My party is in a game, so they aren't dealing with this bullshit that's irrelevant to gameplay.
unless it is, perhaps the baron is who they've been looking for to answer some questions? really up to the dm how it all ties together
>DM
I'm not playing D&D. I'm playing an actual game.
Which side is paying us more?
The peasants, obviously. If the baron wants to bring back a tradition then he can't just exempt himself from it.
>Anyone age 50+, except for the baron himself
Jump off the cliff homosexual
>Baron
>Viking practice
get your cultures right anon
send someone to go tell a higher authority and try to buy time so neither of the two sides gets curbstomped before the count/duke/prince/king's men arrive
you know, like normal people
Your move
rippen
bump
If this ends, anyway other than throwing the Baron off a cliff, I will be disappointed.
quelling a rebellion is too much of a strain on expenses and resources. So we should do it in the most practical and efficient way possible: kill the baron.
How is this a moral dilemma, the baron’s objectively moronic
if he's too broke to afford old people how can he afford anyone with the power to stop a rebellion? He's definitely not paying enough, so kill him and rob him. If the party had the ability to stop a rebellion the baron couldn't then what security does the baron have?
Peasants are clearly moronic, overly emotional and shortsighted. Baron has good reasons to undertake such drastic measures. Attempting a gotcha moment by asking him to kill himself is in particular cringeworthy and moronic. He cannot abandon his people, they still need his leadership, as ungrateful as they may be. Killing himself would be an easy way to get rid off this burden, but he is determined to suffer for his people.
Since he is morally in the right, I will aid him and refuse any monetary compensation for my service.
My character stabs the furry through the chest, killing him instantly, and I ready action to do so to the player.
I go to an other province or state or whatever. I am NOT getting involved in this shit.
We play both sides against each other prolonging the conflict while making sick profits selling wingsuits.
I know this is just an excuse to talk about Misomer, but a line from the movie about the words caved into the doorframe being Elder Futhark is trying to indicate that the community has been doing this since before the Viking Age. But since Elder Futhark wasn't translated until 1865 and the community seems to lean heavily on photographs (a narrative lean), the community could just be founded by overly-Romantic 19th Century Neopagans who would be just the sort of people to embrace a legend as true cultic activity.
50 isn't fricking old, even in medieval times. You're basically talking about killing off all of your craftsmen just as they actually reach mastery of their art.
This is the stupidest idea imaginable, there is 0% chance that it was ever practiced. I'd understand if you were talking about 90 year olds, but 50?
Average medieval lifespan was unquestionably <50.
Because of moronly high infantile mortality, it was absolutly not unheard of to reach 50+ for a man.
Only because of high infant mortality and death in childbirth. If you were male and made it past 12, your life expectancy was just fine even by modern standards.
Can't tell if bait or ignorant.
the inferno mentions that Dante was half way through life at 35, and implied that men could expect to live to 70.
The average age in the middle ages was 21.
the reason for this was that people tended to die in a few mortality thresh-holds.
half of the people who were born died before they turned 5
something like a third of women who made it to menarchy would die from childbirth, usually before they turned 25.
men would oven die from war before 25, but at a lower rate. usually from disease on campaign.
if you made it to 25, and there weren't any outbreaks of disease in your area after that, you were very likely to live to your 70s.
Actually hold on. For you see its not just the peasants upset by this, apparently the king has ordered that the Baron is to be thrown off a cliff himself and the reward for anyone who can carry out the order before the king’s knights do is far higher than anything the baron can offer.
Guess the baron didn’t run his idea past his higher-ups first, eh?
I want money, but I value my life. I take the baron's money and then run. What's he gonna do about it? Everybody is about to string him up. He's clearly gone insane and nobody is listening to him.
Rape the baron, rape the peasants, become ungovernable, rape the concept of authority
The baron.
Frick those old Black folk
Why would I side with the Baron?
Throw him off the cliff and try and get first dibs during the looting.
If he is so weak he needs mercenaries to prevent some peasants from overthrowing him, his shit is ripe for the taking.
Let's look at this from a purely pragmatic angle, setting morals to the side for a moment. The baron is a moron. It shouldn't be set at 50+. Or any specific age at all. If you want to preserve resources then you throw them off the cliff when they are more of a burden than a help. Even fairly old and frail elders who can't do much manual work are still useful for helping with child-care, watching over and teaching kids while their parents work. Or maybe you put them to work doing tedious but non-strenuous labor that's time consuming regardless like knitting/weaving clothes and such. But once granny starts getting dementia is the time you huck them off a cliff, not some arbitrary age.
I join the baron and champion his cause without asking any compensation, spreading this custom to neighboring baronies too.
old people are a plague on the Earth and should all be systematically killed
t. italian
I know little bits of folklore and local customes, even when they are horrifiying. I think it was the Sardinians than in old times they had a girl tasked with bonking old people when they reached too old age.
Mock the Baron for making it 50 years and not 50 weeks like a real leader would.