I absolutely agree. I'm sick and tired of the brand new ones I just got to replace my old ones. The frickers need be synced everyday, because it has to disconnect atleast once. Mind you, this is the replacement I got from Amazon after I returned the one I actually bought, which was giving me the same issue.
Not only that, ever since the 360, the goddamn direction buttons and the RB/LB buttons have sucked ass and MS refuses to fix them.
None of my Playstation controllers have ever given me problems. Except maybe the PS3 dualshock 3, which had awful trigger buttons. Would pain my hands if I played too long, especially when I played driving games.
D-pad is doo doo feces. The previous Xbox controller was perfect, the one that added bluetooth and a headphone jack as well as made LB/RB less stiff. Shame my stick is starting to drift so bad on that one.
>The D-pad is trash
I get that a clicky disk might not be your thing, but the Series X controller's dpad is responsive with no false diagonals, so it can't be trash no matter how you spin it.
DS5 dpad is worse, my friend had to get a convertor for his DS4 to play fighting games because the DS5 is so trash for them. I have an elite 2 and you can swap the disc out for a traditional dpad, unsure if the base controllers offer the same thing.
apparently Microsoft intentionally makes the bluetooth support shitty to get you to buy their official xbox wireless adapter which supposedly works flawlessly
I bought the wireless adapter and it still disconnects after a few minutes of playing.
The only solution I found was to delete all the drivers for the adapter, reboot the machine, connect the adapter to a different USB port and then completely disable all windows updates. It's like windows updates permanently frick up a USB port and the controller starts disconnecting so you have to use a different port to get it working again, it's bizarre.
Go to the USB controllers in device manager and open each one, go to the power management tab, and uncheck "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"
Wow you were saying a thing and got cut off by seeing the opposite of what you were saying, stupifying you mid sentence. Great le meme, fellow redditor!
Who would say that "the best" of anything doesn't exist? You took a shit tier garbage reddit meme for morons, brought it here and somehow made it worse. Fricking rope yourself
genuinely so overpriced that buying from dedicated gaming brands like Razer is not unreasonable. In some cases less than double the price can get you about double the lifespan (although probably not from razer specifically). That's how fricked the controller market is, that RGB Pro Elite Ultimate V2 V3 bullshit might be the savvy consumers choice.
I finally gave in and bought the chinkshit controller that always gets shilled here on Ganker, and honestly it's the best controller I've ever owned. First time I've ever went with a Ganker recommendation and not been burned by it.
seriously though i know the triggers suck (i dont mind them) but i bought this controller back in 2017 for my ps3 used and then started using it on my pc and the controller still works perfectly fine not the slightest bit of drift either. why are modern controllers such shit
>No gyro >Wireless, yet still all one piece instead of being an ergonomic split controller >Sticks aren't hall effect >No touch pad for camera control, lots of faffing about about how asymmetrical is better yet they can't grasp that having a right stick is usually just shit >Still keeps the outdated two button groups per side SNES bottom surgery layout >Pro controller has admitted for an entire console generation that the controller needs more well-placed buttons but it does not come with them by default
It tricked an entire generation into thinking that controllers could play FPS at all just because the triggers were shaped like gun triggers, fricking idiots.
It is helpful for any game where you need to aim. It is particularly useful in game that you would want to play with a controller and also need to aim since you would not be able to comfortably use a mouse.
Your own personal preferences don't matter that much. It may never come up for you if you just don't think controllers as a whole are necessary, but many people will play action games or similar things with a controller since it is generally more comfortable. A controller that is capable of better aiming in those games as well is a benefit with no real downside. Additionally, many people will also play shooters with a controller even when mouse and keyboard would be clear best choice. Developers are going to cater to them and design games around controllers. It is in your best interest for controllers to be as good as possible if you want games to be designed closer to your own needs even if you don't personally use a controller.
Games on console started including aim-assist, bullet time, ADS, cover systems and stealth mechanics largely because sticks can't aim for shit and need a generous helping of time to line things up when they are used for aiming. And that's when they weren't including QTEs, walking segments, cutscenes, etc to distract from the fact that you were subject to /d/ tier handholding.
I would say that the need for LITERALLY ANYTHING to complement or replace the right stick is self evident. If you want to use a conventionally shaped controller on anything that isn't a platformer with no need to babysit the camera, then you will want a gyro.
It is particularly helpful for 7th gen PC ports, which had complete ass mouse acceleration and poor mouse and keyboard controls in general.
I've had like 5 and the A button always fails to register presses at some point. 3 of those controllers were brand new, right out of the box and they still had fricked A buttons. Apparently that's just a common thing with these shitty controllers, so I found a 360 controller secondhand and have been using it without issue for a year.
You know almost every company produces in china anyway. The only difference is they tell them to build it cheap to increase profit margins and still charge premium. Might as well pray premium and get premium by buying "knock off" products
>You know almost every company produces in china anyway
Yeah, and you can always tell the difference between made in China and made by China, since the latter lacks any kind of QA
As it should be. Even though most shit is made in China, the key difference is that certain companies have greater QA checks than others. Usually chinese companies will just shit out products without proper QA because they're not being made to by someone else.
In china you get what you pay for. You can buy a controller for 10 bucks they will gladly make cheap shit. Or you can spend 60 and get quality better than what you can buy here
In my experience it depends on the company, same as any other company's products. I have a Miyoo Mini+ handheld that feels just as damn solid as a DMG Game Boy in the hands, but you'd be hard-pressed to find an American that hasn't seen the cheap-shit "99-in-1" Tetris clone handhelds.
Yeah, i was hesitant on getting the 8bitdo stuff due to that since theyre poppingout so many controllers at various pricepoints, it concerned me if they were having a qa check.
8 months ago
Anonymous
8bitdo controllers used to have d-pads that were way too sensitive but I think that's just a design flaw in SN30 Pro era controllers and not an actual QA issue. Beyond that I've never had a problem with any of my controllers besides Pro 2 having slightly weird sticks depending on your luck in the silicon lottery, though nothing that can't be corrected in software deadzones.
In my experience it depends on the company, same as any other company's products. I have a Miyoo Mini+ handheld that feels just as damn solid as a DMG Game Boy in the hands, but you'd be hard-pressed to find an American that hasn't seen the cheap-shit "99-in-1" Tetris clone handhelds.
Like the button wasnt popping back immediately or just felt like shit when pressing it down? Just asking since i should do a more thorough run through on my copy.
8 months ago
Anonymous
It makes noises, and when you spam the button it sometimes registers as a long press
I love this controller, only issue is one of the face buttons started to stick after only a few days of use. It was pretty easy to open up and rotate the switches so now they're all very nice and linear, a very underrated feature
Had to buy a replacement for this after 6 months with barely any use.
The fricking thing kept turning on even after I turned it off. Literally took it apart and cleaned everything with 99% alcohol, even went so far to solder in a new button but the issue seems to be a chip issue or something.
>get rid of the moronic amiibo switch controller bullshit no one uses >increase quality control so i dont have to return the controller 5 times to get an acceptable one >make the buttons not mushy shit, make a real d-pad >make the layout xbox since youre already copying the xbox shape, im not cracking open the controller to switch the a/b/y/x >update the download website so it doesnt look like chinese malware >hire someone to write all of the copy shit on the site and in your packaging materials in proper english and not "please do the needful" forma de chinese >PADDLES
there, i solved this controller
Except when it starts disconnecting every five minutes even when plugged in and when the sticks start crapping out after 3 months.
It would be a great controller it had any fricking quality control.
Something that I realized is that I don't like the feeling when you hold the 8bitdo controllers.
Notice how the handles line are Vertical lines : It's not ergonomic for the wrists.
>heh nothing personal kid
seriously though i know the triggers suck (i dont mind them) but i bought this controller back in 2017 for my ps3 used and then started using it on my pc and the controller still works perfectly fine not the slightest bit of drift either. why are modern controllers such shit
is it ~~*them*~~ ?
https://i.imgur.com/YG7S6En.jpg
>The best controller for PC doesn't exis-
Meanwhile Xbox, Switch and PS4/PS5 all have Diagonals Handles. It creates a pretty good feeling on the wrists.
>It's not ergonomic for the wrists
I bought the wired version of the Ultimate because it was on sale for 20 bucks and holy shit, it feels so cramped. Is this shit made for baby hands or something?
Yeah it feels like something is weird ergo-wise. I have a Dualsense, Switch Pro controller, DS4, 8bitdo Pro 2 and it really is about these handles lines vertical/diagonals.
Like in hands, they all feel good except for 8bitdo. It's not that bad but it'll annoy you after like 30min-1hour of gaming.
I actually wanted to get a bunch but out of nowhere Steam started to have "payment processing issues" with any type of payment I wanted to use.
Gay Ben can suck a wiener.
>there's no reason to use anything else
Piracy? I've heard the controller is fully Steam dependent. Just a quick idea, I have no clue how it works in practice.
I would really like to know why this fricking thing suddenly has disconnection issues all the time after my ancient BT dongle from 2014-ish died on me. Got a new one, I'm getting disconnects every now and then. Got an official Xbox receiver thing, it still happens all the time. Fricking hell.
>uses AA batteries
The frick is this 90s garbage? I thought batteries died with the Wii, I don't want to constantly be buying batteries in a world where USB charging exists
Buy rechargeble batteries and a loading station which is around 20 bucks for 4 batteries and a station. That way you will always be better of than a battery that is hard to replace
It's your decision a built in battery pack needs to be replaced at one point too. And you can use these batteries anywhere it's not like it's bound to your controller
>10yo logitech finally craps out >all they have at walmart are xbone controllers >don’t wanna wait to order a new controller so just settle >doesn’t even last four months before the stick drift renders at least one game totally unplayable
I got two logitechs so I’ll have a backup just in case. Never again.
Honest question - is there any sense to buy this "series" version of controller when you have "X ox one" version? I mean, mine was bought used and sticks starts to wear off a bit but previous owner somehow almost broke usb connection and I noticed that it sometimes stop talking with PC as a result.
Depends. I upgraded two years back but it really depends on how much you plan on using the dpad, I play a lot of platformers and personally way way prefer the clickiness of the series dpad. Other than that it's basically the same controller except marginally smaller and with a grippy back texture
I will say the fact that it's USB-C is 100% an improvement over the iffy micro USB port on the xbone
I know you just look at pictures of video games instead of playing them but it's VERY responsive and comfortable. It's my go-to for beat em ups and platformers
>I know you just look at pictures of video games instead of playing them
I play a lot of games. I've barely used an Xbone controller but from what I have used the D-Pad felt somehow even worse than the 360 controller's.
Would you consider there to be any games that aren't better played with a mouse and keyboard? Would you play an action game or a platformer with a mouse and keyboard just because there are segments where you need to aim? It is fine if you are the type to prefer mouse and keyboard for everything, but then the debate over which controller to use is pointless to begin with.
asymmetrical sticks are fricking SHIT >use symmetrical layout >can move left thumb anywhere I need and stay comfortable >use asymmetrical layout >can't fricking hold UP on the stick without putting strain on my thumb which makes it go numb after like 20 minutes of play
and aside from that the Dpad is SHIT. you can't roll it smoothly. fighting game inputs are impossible, it's much easier on the dualshock 4.
and if that wasn't enough the triggers are also SHIT. really high resistance on very narrow triggers mean they dig into your fingers, who designed this? >hurr but it's like shooting a real gun
if I want to shoot a gun I'll shoot a gun, I want to play a fricking VIDEO GAME with comfortable controls and not this shit.
you also can't put your middle fingers on the triggers comfortably, not that it's comfortable on the DS4 either but at least you can make it work if you have to.
frick and I just remembered, flat buttons mean that you can easily do shit like hit square and circle and nothing else at the same on the DS4, whereas you can't hit X and B with xbox without using that one controller with the back buttons. back buttons are the only redeeming feature of xbox controllers but the normal ones are absolute dogshit and I don't see why people like them.
How fricking small, pitiful and garbage are your hands that you have trouble with fighting game inputs using this? This controller makes them a fricking breeze regardless of the game and regardless of the input
There are so many companies that make good peripherals. Gotta step outside the microsoft and sony ecosystem. Gamesir is an excellent brand. Don't let the china thing fool you the chinese are making quality shit if you pay the price
Unless you care about the actual clicking sound, no. I've played tons of 2D games exclusively using the dpad, it's fricking great, practically never fricks up inputs.
The Edge is just conceptually hilarious, it's a fricking controller that costs $200 and has Alps joystick modules purely to get around the fact that Alps sticks have loads of cost-cutting measures these days and they know full well they're not permanent nor are they intended to be permanent. For whatever reason Nintendo is the only company taking this fricking seriously these days, because they patented a hall-effect stick design back in March that uses ferrofluids, so it'll probably also be for sensory feedback in addition to the never drift.
>Nintendo is the only company taking this fricking seriously these days
Do I have to remind you that all the drifting controllers started with the Joycons, and before those it was just the outliers who drifted rather than the opposite?
You do realize that patents mean nothing until they're actually made into a product, and that until then they serve to just stop others to use your ideas, right?
Nintendo rarely if ever patents something they don't intend to deliver on in some way and at some point, and a ferrofluid hall-effect sensor for a joystick is way too specific a patent after way too specific a console lifetime complaint (console generation complaint, really) to be nothing.
Face buttons on most controllers consist of pressing a piece of plastic down onto a silicone/rubber membrane with conductive carbon pads that bridge two contacts when pressed down, registering an input (in my picture you can see these highlighted in red and blue; the pads temporarily "join" those traces to make a circuit that generates the signal for the corresponding button).
Nintendo, SEGA, and Sony designed their buttons and/or contact layouts in various ways that ensure consistently registered inputs (you can see the "red" and "blue" traces on their controllers kind of intermingle with each other, which gives the carbon pads a strong guarantee of bridging them together when pressed down).
Microsoft did not do this with their Xbone/Series controllers' main face buttons (but somehow they did for the Xbox button). You can see that there's no overlap between the "red" and "blue" traces, meaning that it's much easier for button presses to not register if they're not pressed on the center enough. The design of the plastic buttons themselves and the way they're held in place contributes to this too; they're very tall buttons and have a lot of wiggle room in being pressed down, making an off-center press more likely.
For the sticks, Xbox's vary wildly from controller to controller, often sporting very rough and unevenly uncircular ranges.
The PS5 controller is comfortable, but between not having hall effect sticks, not having plug and play support outside of steam games, and abysmal battery life it's a huge stretch to act as if it's the best by any metric
Ironic how so many PCgays gravitate towards the Xbox controller purely on the basis of "it just works" when they scoff at that same argument being used for preferring consoles over PC.
It is bad. Just get an OG 360 controller and replace the dpad with an OG Duke one. It works, and is what people used to do to fix it. It's what I've used for ages. The issue with the stock dpad is that the piece is too big for the shell, so it doesn't always contact when it hits the edge.
I didn't know about the OG Duke mod, there is another one that's pretty good that you just need to cut a thin player of plastic and place it under the d-pad. Thanks for the info.
Put an actual D-Pad and sticks that aren't designed to start drifting within two years and I would agree with you. Also Bluetooth being the only wireless protocol without using an adapter on pc is a big mark against, bluetooth is a shitty way to go about wireless for game controllers
I bought this 8bitdo ultimate wireless controller about a year ago and I love it, the D-Pad is great and the sticks will never drift, comes with 2.4 ghz wireless as an option and I never have to worry about charging it because of the stand it comes with. Only real issue is that occasionally if it gets bumped a weird way it will try to switch to bluetooth mode which disconnects the controller, and also it isn't as comfortable as an xbox controller because the handles go straight down instead of taking a wider angle. even with the downsides nothing else really compares for pc controllers that I've found in the last several years.
They weren't, there's just been stagnation because gamers cry and shit and cum their pants every time they have THE OPTION to try out new controls. Gyro controls are still hated, despite not requiring aim assist and being objectively better than shitty analog aim. > Hall effect sticks have been around for decades and aren't the norm simply because everyone wanted to save a few cents per unit. > Back buttons should be industry standard, but for some reason adding them adds an extra 150 dollars to the controller. > Touchpads are so incredibly versatile that it makes no sense why every reviewer shat on the Steam Controller. > Dual-stage triggers are straight up better than regular triggers. > Scroll wheels on controllers are unironically based.
>Steam Controller
While touchpads are indeed great, the Steam Controller's felt like an alpha and were awful to use
If they were to make a V2 and make it more similar to the Dec, so with both dpad, sticks and touchpads, then it'd be worth it
>just buy a new card and try that
Nah a lot of people have had issues with 11 and their BT/wifi vanishing out of nowhere, my wifi was completely gone for a week and nothing worked, it just came back randomly on its own.
They need to bring back the gems. Unironically. Just add more buttons. Backpaddles should be standard at this point, I don't know why every company is scared of adding new buttons.
Patent trolling that makes use of very vague language so they can point to other devices and go, "Look, that's totally out thing!" Same sort of idea as politicians writing intentionally vague laws so they can extrapolate on them as necessary.
SCUF holds all the patents for back paddles, and they charge insane royalties for anyone that wants to use them.
Didn't Valve end up in court against them? I don't remember who won if anyone.
>got new pc months ago >official drivers no longer work on my chink xbox 360 wireless reciever so i can't use the pads ever again
at least i can plug my cheap switch horipad and my ds3 and use them without problem
I'm considering buying this even though my usb 360 controller works fine. Idk if the slightly different shape is more ergonomic, my right hand sometimes gets stiff and cramp.
What's the lowest profile FULL bluetooth controller (both hands, two sticks, 4 triggers, etc.) that with or without case you can just throw in your small sling bag?
You're lucky if it lasts 4 years, my Xbox Elite controller from 2019 is already breaking down internally despite me treating it like a goddamn relic. Misses inputs on the A button and the left-right Dpad.
there was a list of mostly flydigi controllers. But how common are instant trigger presses like scuff advertises? also theres usb to usb c mods for ds4 controllers.
I agree. I bought it in lung for 50€ why the hell is so expensive now?
the sticks on mine are completely fricked after 100 hours
Maybe wash your hands after eating the cheetos
*Heavy voice* NO!
Same, bought one on April and the right stick started drifting 2 months later.
For me it's the left bumper. SF6 was the killing blow.
I don't understand how drones can be so mindless as to actually like the xbox controllers. They are OBJECTIVELY BAD.
>Objectively bad
Explain how. Bonus points if you post gameplay you recorded with a different control
>dpads always awful
>asymmetric analogs
>hard face buttons
>flimsy shells
>no gyro
etc etc
I absolutely agree. I'm sick and tired of the brand new ones I just got to replace my old ones. The frickers need be synced everyday, because it has to disconnect atleast once. Mind you, this is the replacement I got from Amazon after I returned the one I actually bought, which was giving me the same issue.
Not only that, ever since the 360, the goddamn direction buttons and the RB/LB buttons have sucked ass and MS refuses to fix them.
None of my Playstation controllers have ever given me problems. Except maybe the PS3 dualshock 3, which had awful trigger buttons. Would pain my hands if I played too long, especially when I played driving games.
I got one 3 years ago and still struggle with rb/rt lol
Had to bought a stupid program that lets me emulate a DualShock 4 (for games that support it)
D-pad is doo doo feces. The previous Xbox controller was perfect, the one that added bluetooth and a headphone jack as well as made LB/RB less stiff. Shame my stick is starting to drift so bad on that one.
>clicky, responsive d-ads are... LE BAD...
Every other dpad is mushy trash
Im literally a Master in SF6 with Series controller d-pad. The problem is you.
>overpriced
>no hall sticks because that would stop pajeetsoft cashflow
lol
lmao
The D-pad is trash so thats a pass. DS5 wins easily, unfortunately they cost a gorrillian to buy one
>The D-pad is trash
I get that a clicky disk might not be your thing, but the Series X controller's dpad is responsive with no false diagonals, so it can't be trash no matter how you spin it.
DS5 dpad is worse, my friend had to get a convertor for his DS4 to play fighting games because the DS5 is so trash for them. I have an elite 2 and you can swap the disc out for a traditional dpad, unsure if the base controllers offer the same thing.
best controller for pc is bigbigwon rainbow pro 2, its like xbox but better
and i also got the blitz and it's kino as frick too
>bigbigwon rainbow pro 2
I thought you were joking, but it's a real controller. Why do they always give the most moronic names?
Let's you know right away that it's some chinkshit trash with their gibberish naming conventions
I'm still using my old 360 controller.
They made it tiny. Sony's controller hurts my hands less, what fricking timeline is this
This shit disconnects constantly and the drivers break with every windows update.
>updating windows
your first mistake
I thought something was wrong with my pc
My xbox one controller also randomly disconnects and reconnects
Is there really no way to fix?
apparently Microsoft intentionally makes the bluetooth support shitty to get you to buy their official xbox wireless adapter which supposedly works flawlessly
I bought the wireless adapter and it still disconnects after a few minutes of playing.
The only solution I found was to delete all the drivers for the adapter, reboot the machine, connect the adapter to a different USB port and then completely disable all windows updates. It's like windows updates permanently frick up a USB port and the controller starts disconnecting so you have to use a different port to get it working again, it's bizarre.
Go to the USB controllers in device manager and open each one, go to the power management tab, and uncheck "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"
Update the firmware
I just use my Switch Pro controller tbqh but yeah I used to get the $40 xbox ones
Wow you were saying a thing and got cut off by seeing the opposite of what you were saying, stupifying you mid sentence. Great le meme, fellow redditor!
Also frick that shit dome switch dpad
*drifts*
Who would say that "the best" of anything doesn't exist? You took a shit tier garbage reddit meme for morons, brought it here and somehow made it worse. Fricking rope yourself
this would be the best controller ever made if it didn't randomly disconnect and reconnect
Incels
Best is ps5
It's like that shit is from future!!!!
genuinely so overpriced that buying from dedicated gaming brands like Razer is not unreasonable. In some cases less than double the price can get you about double the lifespan (although probably not from razer specifically). That's how fricked the controller market is, that RGB Pro Elite Ultimate V2 V3 bullshit might be the savvy consumers choice.
RE4 remake made me switch back to the DS4. Gyro aiming is absolutely necessary.
I finally gave in and bought the chinkshit controller that always gets shilled here on Ganker, and honestly it's the best controller I've ever owned. First time I've ever went with a Ganker recommendation and not been burned by it.
It’s alright
But after recently getting an original Xbox
The S controller is better
They need to go back (except for the dpad)
>heh nothing personal kid
seriously though i know the triggers suck (i dont mind them) but i bought this controller back in 2017 for my ps3 used and then started using it on my pc and the controller still works perfectly fine not the slightest bit of drift either. why are modern controllers such shit
is it ~~*them*~~ ?
I bought a gamesir G7 recently and it's the best controller I ever had
Anyone have trouble connecting controllers wireless?
>click based dpad instead of rubber based
They fricked up really bad here.
guys is this controller any good?
Not good for submarines.
But good for everything else.
Only the best
I've got it right here
trim your disgusting nails anon
Give it back, Jamal
This controller is only popular in US because majority of people who play games have fat hands.
>No gyro
>Wireless, yet still all one piece instead of being an ergonomic split controller
>Sticks aren't hall effect
>No touch pad for camera control, lots of faffing about about how asymmetrical is better yet they can't grasp that having a right stick is usually just shit
>Still keeps the outdated two button groups per side SNES bottom surgery layout
>Pro controller has admitted for an entire console generation that the controller needs more well-placed buttons but it does not come with them by default
It tricked an entire generation into thinking that controllers could play FPS at all just because the triggers were shaped like gun triggers, fricking idiots.
>le gyro
name one pc game where gyro is a must have
It is helpful for any game where you need to aim. It is particularly useful in game that you would want to play with a controller and also need to aim since you would not be able to comfortably use a mouse.
But if I'm playing a game on PC where I need precise aim, I'll just use kb+m. That scenario would never come up in the first place.
Your own personal preferences don't matter that much. It may never come up for you if you just don't think controllers as a whole are necessary, but many people will play action games or similar things with a controller since it is generally more comfortable. A controller that is capable of better aiming in those games as well is a benefit with no real downside. Additionally, many people will also play shooters with a controller even when mouse and keyboard would be clear best choice. Developers are going to cater to them and design games around controllers. It is in your best interest for controllers to be as good as possible if you want games to be designed closer to your own needs even if you don't personally use a controller.
Games on console started including aim-assist, bullet time, ADS, cover systems and stealth mechanics largely because sticks can't aim for shit and need a generous helping of time to line things up when they are used for aiming. And that's when they weren't including QTEs, walking segments, cutscenes, etc to distract from the fact that you were subject to /d/ tier handholding.
I would say that the need for LITERALLY ANYTHING to complement or replace the right stick is self evident. If you want to use a conventionally shaped controller on anything that isn't a platformer with no need to babysit the camera, then you will want a gyro.
It is particularly helpful for 7th gen PC ports, which had complete ass mouse acceleration and poor mouse and keyboard controls in general.
Literally any game with shooting
I've had like 5 and the A button always fails to register presses at some point. 3 of those controllers were brand new, right out of the box and they still had fricked A buttons. Apparently that's just a common thing with these shitty controllers, so I found a 360 controller secondhand and have been using it without issue for a year.
That ain’t no gamesir
You posted the wrong pic
How's the DPad? And does it work well with emulators?
I got it for 40 usd last week and it's much less shitty than i expected.
Still dont trust chinkware.
You know almost every company produces in china anyway. The only difference is they tell them to build it cheap to increase profit margins and still charge premium. Might as well pray premium and get premium by buying "knock off" products
>You know almost every company produces in china anyway
Yeah, and you can always tell the difference between made in China and made by China, since the latter lacks any kind of QA
Qa/qc is my biggest concern.
As it should be. Even though most shit is made in China, the key difference is that certain companies have greater QA checks than others. Usually chinese companies will just shit out products without proper QA because they're not being made to by someone else.
In china you get what you pay for. You can buy a controller for 10 bucks they will gladly make cheap shit. Or you can spend 60 and get quality better than what you can buy here
Yeah, i was hesitant on getting the 8bitdo stuff due to that since theyre poppingout so many controllers at various pricepoints, it concerned me if they were having a qa check.
8bitdo controllers used to have d-pads that were way too sensitive but I think that's just a design flaw in SN30 Pro era controllers and not an actual QA issue. Beyond that I've never had a problem with any of my controllers besides Pro 2 having slightly weird sticks depending on your luck in the silicon lottery, though nothing that can't be corrected in software deadzones.
In my experience it depends on the company, same as any other company's products. I have a Miyoo Mini+ handheld that feels just as damn solid as a DMG Game Boy in the hands, but you'd be hard-pressed to find an American that hasn't seen the cheap-shit "99-in-1" Tetris clone handhelds.
Buying chink products is like playing a gacha game, luckily mine was just a squishy button, easily fixed with some grease
Like the button wasnt popping back immediately or just felt like shit when pressing it down? Just asking since i should do a more thorough run through on my copy.
It makes noises, and when you spam the button it sometimes registers as a long press
I love this controller, only issue is one of the face buttons started to stick after only a few days of use. It was pretty easy to open up and rotate the switches so now they're all very nice and linear, a very underrated feature
Had to buy a replacement for this after 6 months with barely any use.
The fricking thing kept turning on even after I turned it off. Literally took it apart and cleaned everything with 99% alcohol, even went so far to solder in a new button but the issue seems to be a chip issue or something.
>get rid of the moronic amiibo switch controller bullshit no one uses
>increase quality control so i dont have to return the controller 5 times to get an acceptable one
>make the buttons not mushy shit, make a real d-pad
>make the layout xbox since youre already copying the xbox shape, im not cracking open the controller to switch the a/b/y/x
>update the download website so it doesnt look like chinese malware
>hire someone to write all of the copy shit on the site and in your packaging materials in proper english and not "please do the needful" forma de chinese
>PADDLES
there, i solved this controller
>this switch controller would be perfect if it were for xbox
die, xbro
i dont use xbox and i dont care for your consolewar homosexualry
it just works
Best controller
Except when it starts disconnecting every five minutes even when plugged in and when the sticks start crapping out after 3 months.
It would be a great controller it had any fricking quality control.
I second this, frick 8bitdo and whoever recommends it in these threads
The entire problem I have with this piece of shit is that it doesn't "just work" at all.
Something that I realized is that I don't like the feeling when you hold the 8bitdo controllers.
Notice how the handles line are Vertical lines : It's not ergonomic for the wrists.
Meanwhile Xbox, Switch and PS4/PS5 all have Diagonals Handles. It creates a pretty good feeling on the wrists.
>It's not ergonomic for the wrists
I bought the wired version of the Ultimate because it was on sale for 20 bucks and holy shit, it feels so cramped. Is this shit made for baby hands or something?
Yeah it feels like something is weird ergo-wise. I have a Dualsense, Switch Pro controller, DS4, 8bitdo Pro 2 and it really is about these handles lines vertical/diagonals.
Like in hands, they all feel good except for 8bitdo. It's not that bad but it'll annoy you after like 30min-1hour of gaming.
It's good, but some of the buttons are so loud for some reason, the d-pad specially.
No. Just no.
If you want cheap, 8bitdo. If you want at the same level price as that controller but infinitely better then the PS5 controller it is.
Controllers are goyslop
If you must use a controller there's no reason to use anything else but the Steam Controller unless you're a moron.
I don't know what I'm going to replace it with when mine dies
>not buying 4 when the firesale was on
ngmi
I actually wanted to get a bunch but out of nowhere Steam started to have "payment processing issues" with any type of payment I wanted to use.
Gay Ben can suck a wiener.
>there's no reason to use anything else
Piracy? I've heard the controller is fully Steam dependent. Just a quick idea, I have no clue how it works in practice.
Steam supports pirated games
you've never used steam in your life? you can add the overlay to any program
>dude just add your pirated games to a DRM chink platform launcher
If you're so scared about it then just use glossi
Can anyone confirm if the standard rumble works out of the box in steam/emulators etc? Not talking about the trigger rumble
Yes.
I would really like to know why this fricking thing suddenly has disconnection issues all the time after my ancient BT dongle from 2014-ish died on me. Got a new one, I'm getting disconnects every now and then. Got an official Xbox receiver thing, it still happens all the time. Fricking hell.
My calcified claws cannot accept anything else at this point without searing pain.
>uses AA batteries
The frick is this 90s garbage? I thought batteries died with the Wii, I don't want to constantly be buying batteries in a world where USB charging exists
Buy rechargeble batteries and a loading station which is around 20 bucks for 4 batteries and a station. That way you will always be better of than a battery that is hard to replace
>spend $20 extra goy
No
It's your decision a built in battery pack needs to be replaced at one point too. And you can use these batteries anywhere it's not like it's bound to your controller
>10yo logitech finally craps out
>all they have at walmart are xbone controllers
>don’t wanna wait to order a new controller so just settle
>doesn’t even last four months before the stick drift renders at least one game totally unplayable
I got two logitechs so I’ll have a backup just in case. Never again.
>literal 80 hour battery life
It will never be topped
Maybe, but YOU will, by an african gentleman named De'shawn.
I wish there was a way to make those work natively on windows without accessories. It's literally the best
Steam will take care of it. Just add any non steam game to it and the controller will work
https://www.julianloehr.de/educational-work/hid-wiimote/
You're welcome
I get close to that with an Xbox One pad and a pair of Eneloops.
If this had gyro then it would be perfect
I find controller gyro uncomfortable.
Honest question - is there any sense to buy this "series" version of controller when you have "X ox one" version? I mean, mine was bought used and sticks starts to wear off a bit but previous owner somehow almost broke usb connection and I noticed that it sometimes stop talking with PC as a result.
Depends. I upgraded two years back but it really depends on how much you plan on using the dpad, I play a lot of platformers and personally way way prefer the clickiness of the series dpad. Other than that it's basically the same controller except marginally smaller and with a grippy back texture
I will say the fact that it's USB-C is 100% an improvement over the iffy micro USB port on the xbone
Thoughts on 8bitdo controllers? I'm thinking of getting one for emulation on my Android tablet.
>That D-Pad
I know you just look at pictures of video games instead of playing them but it's VERY responsive and comfortable. It's my go-to for beat em ups and platformers
>I know you just look at pictures of video games instead of playing them
I play a lot of games. I've barely used an Xbone controller but from what I have used the D-Pad felt somehow even worse than the 360 controller's.
>morons itt b***hing about the sole non shit aspect of this thing
why
>The best controller for PC doesn't exis-
Op here, wrong image
>mouse
Nope.
my homie. Just wish they were bigger, my gorilla paws get strained sometimes with how tiny my "gigajumbo xl HUGE edition" trackball mouse is.
I use a sanwa and it's good for my hand size
Try Kensington if you're truly a gorilla those are pretty huge
fighting games are for gays. dpad is obsolete
>No gyro
>no meme gimmick feature that barely any game supports
wooow
>that barely any game supports
Doesn't need to be officially supported to be superior to shitty right analog sticks
>any game that gryo helps with is better played with a mouse and keyboard
Would you consider there to be any games that aren't better played with a mouse and keyboard? Would you play an action game or a platformer with a mouse and keyboard just because there are segments where you need to aim? It is fine if you are the type to prefer mouse and keyboard for everything, but then the debate over which controller to use is pointless to begin with.
Most games have shit mouse and keyboard support. The only case where gyro wouldn't help is if the right stick does not do any camera/cursor control.
asymmetrical sticks are fricking SHIT
>use symmetrical layout
>can move left thumb anywhere I need and stay comfortable
>use asymmetrical layout
>can't fricking hold UP on the stick without putting strain on my thumb which makes it go numb after like 20 minutes of play
and aside from that the Dpad is SHIT. you can't roll it smoothly. fighting game inputs are impossible, it's much easier on the dualshock 4.
and if that wasn't enough the triggers are also SHIT. really high resistance on very narrow triggers mean they dig into your fingers, who designed this?
>hurr but it's like shooting a real gun
if I want to shoot a gun I'll shoot a gun, I want to play a fricking VIDEO GAME with comfortable controls and not this shit.
you also can't put your middle fingers on the triggers comfortably, not that it's comfortable on the DS4 either but at least you can make it work if you have to.
frick and I just remembered, flat buttons mean that you can easily do shit like hit square and circle and nothing else at the same on the DS4, whereas you can't hit X and B with xbox without using that one controller with the back buttons. back buttons are the only redeeming feature of xbox controllers but the normal ones are absolute dogshit and I don't see why people like them.
How fricking small, pitiful and garbage are your hands that you have trouble with fighting game inputs using this? This controller makes them a fricking breeze regardless of the game and regardless of the input
t. handlet snoy
>dude gyro and haptics and leds
Frick you zoomers, you're the reason modern controllers are so shit, overpriced, and have shit battery life.
There are so many companies that make good peripherals. Gotta step outside the microsoft and sony ecosystem. Gamesir is an excellent brand. Don't let the china thing fool you the chinese are making quality shit if you pay the price
>Gamesir
Uhm gamesir please, do the needful and buy?
is the xbox controller fine if i mainly play old 2d stuff? i heard they're clicky, would that get annoying?
Unless you care about the actual clicking sound, no. I've played tons of 2D games exclusively using the dpad, it's fricking great, practically never fricks up inputs.
>would that get annoying
Maybe to someone else in the room with you, you don't really notice it when you're playing
>-t
Finished for you
The Americans got their hands on the best controller ever designed and muttified it all up
The Edge is just conceptually hilarious, it's a fricking controller that costs $200 and has Alps joystick modules purely to get around the fact that Alps sticks have loads of cost-cutting measures these days and they know full well they're not permanent nor are they intended to be permanent. For whatever reason Nintendo is the only company taking this fricking seriously these days, because they patented a hall-effect stick design back in March that uses ferrofluids, so it'll probably also be for sensory feedback in addition to the never drift.
>Nintendo is the only company taking this fricking seriously these days
Do I have to remind you that all the drifting controllers started with the Joycons, and before those it was just the outliers who drifted rather than the opposite?
I am on my hands and knees begging you to finish reading a post before you respond.
You do realize that patents mean nothing until they're actually made into a product, and that until then they serve to just stop others to use your ideas, right?
Nintendo rarely if ever patents something they don't intend to deliver on in some way and at some point, and a ferrofluid hall-effect sensor for a joystick is way too specific a patent after way too specific a console lifetime complaint (console generation complaint, really) to be nothing.
>most overpriced overrated controller
Yeah, none for me thanks.
>"premium" controller
>has less battery life than the already low battery of the regular version
>what's a usb cable
Which controller has the best dpad for fighting games?
Steam controller. Unironically. I can buffer an SPD every time I enter guard/hitstun without burning a hole in my thumb
The dpad feels crunchy like something inside is broken.
>he plays on controller
yikes
Das rite. Keyboard + mouse is the best way to play.
>Xshit
I am not smart enough for this. Could you maybe explain in more detail?
Face buttons on most controllers consist of pressing a piece of plastic down onto a silicone/rubber membrane with conductive carbon pads that bridge two contacts when pressed down, registering an input (in my picture you can see these highlighted in red and blue; the pads temporarily "join" those traces to make a circuit that generates the signal for the corresponding button).
Nintendo, SEGA, and Sony designed their buttons and/or contact layouts in various ways that ensure consistently registered inputs (you can see the "red" and "blue" traces on their controllers kind of intermingle with each other, which gives the carbon pads a strong guarantee of bridging them together when pressed down).
Microsoft did not do this with their Xbone/Series controllers' main face buttons (but somehow they did for the Xbox button). You can see that there's no overlap between the "red" and "blue" traces, meaning that it's much easier for button presses to not register if they're not pressed on the center enough. The design of the plastic buttons themselves and the way they're held in place contributes to this too; they're very tall buttons and have a lot of wiggle room in being pressed down, making an off-center press more likely.
For the sticks, Xbox's vary wildly from controller to controller, often sporting very rough and unevenly uncircular ranges.
Wow that's pretty interesting. Thanks anon!
>no gyro
Pic related is the only worthwhile controller on PC.
The PS5 controller is comfortable, but between not having hall effect sticks, not having plug and play support outside of steam games, and abysmal battery life it's a huge stretch to act as if it's the best by any metric
Anyone else had their bumpers break? Happened on 2 xbox one controllers. I like how comfortable they are but frick those bumper buttons.
Ironic how so many PCgays gravitate towards the Xbox controller purely on the basis of "it just works" when they scoff at that same argument being used for preferring consoles over PC.
I'm still using my wired 360 gamepad
I want to buy that one being made by hyperkin. I don't like some of the colors though, I wish they sold "mod kits" with colored buttons.
For example, this one has white shoulder buttons and black front buttons.
only good hyperkin is the duke
I really like the xbox 360 controller. Do you think these are bad? Apparently they fixed the d-pad issue too, I'm not sure, though.
It is bad. Just get an OG 360 controller and replace the dpad with an OG Duke one. It works, and is what people used to do to fix it. It's what I've used for ages. The issue with the stock dpad is that the piece is too big for the shell, so it doesn't always contact when it hits the edge.
I didn't know about the OG Duke mod, there is another one that's pretty good that you just need to cut a thin player of plastic and place it under the d-pad. Thanks for the info.
>potentiometer sticks
>no back buttons
Get that putrid shit outta here
Awful D-pad. Xbone's was better.
too small
no idea why they reduced the size, frickin sucks
To better fit the average hands of a ten year old boy, right from MS itself.
>Randomly desyncs for a minute straight
heh, nothin persunul
moving from wired to bluetooth was a mistake
Put an actual D-Pad and sticks that aren't designed to start drifting within two years and I would agree with you. Also Bluetooth being the only wireless protocol without using an adapter on pc is a big mark against, bluetooth is a shitty way to go about wireless for game controllers
I bought this 8bitdo ultimate wireless controller about a year ago and I love it, the D-Pad is great and the sticks will never drift, comes with 2.4 ghz wireless as an option and I never have to worry about charging it because of the stand it comes with. Only real issue is that occasionally if it gets bumped a weird way it will try to switch to bluetooth mode which disconnects the controller, and also it isn't as comfortable as an xbox controller because the handles go straight down instead of taking a wider angle. even with the downsides nothing else really compares for pc controllers that I've found in the last several years.
I keep thinking about grabbing one but the straight handles sound really bad and for the 10 seconds I held one in the store it felt weird.
okay 8bitdo
Talk me out of buying Dualsense for playing exclusively on pc
There are better options. Get something with hall effect sticks at least
8bitdo ultimate wireless costs the same, uses 2.4 ghz, and has better battery life. Only disadvantages versus ps5 controller is ergonomics
Controllers were solved a long time ago.
no, not with that dpad
They weren't, there's just been stagnation because gamers cry and shit and cum their pants every time they have THE OPTION to try out new controls. Gyro controls are still hated, despite not requiring aim assist and being objectively better than shitty analog aim.
> Hall effect sticks have been around for decades and aren't the norm simply because everyone wanted to save a few cents per unit.
> Back buttons should be industry standard, but for some reason adding them adds an extra 150 dollars to the controller.
> Touchpads are so incredibly versatile that it makes no sense why every reviewer shat on the Steam Controller.
> Dual-stage triggers are straight up better than regular triggers.
> Scroll wheels on controllers are unironically based.
>gamers
*microsoft
>Steam Controller
While touchpads are indeed great, the Steam Controller's felt like an alpha and were awful to use
If they were to make a V2 and make it more similar to the Dec, so with both dpad, sticks and touchpads, then it'd be worth it
>*Double inputs the A button behind you*
Nothin personel kid
>Double inputs
incorrect
>ignores input or drops input while A is still being held
not sure why people shill this mediocre xbox garbage.
360 pad being the first one that had good drivers on PC really brainfricked some morons.
Lol I bought the rechargeable battery pack and cable for this thing and it legitimately DOESNT WORK
I got one of those and I hate it. How could I let xbrass fool me?
PS4 controller would be the GOAT if it had better battery life.
you can probably put in a better battery.
Thinking about buying a pro controller for mw3 if it ends up being an aim assist fest again
>bluetooth vanishes out of nowhere
thanks windows 11
See if changing your Bluetooth card fixes it, I haven't had that issue
>just buy a new card and try that
Nah a lot of people have had issues with 11 and their BT/wifi vanishing out of nowhere, my wifi was completely gone for a week and nothing worked, it just came back randomly on its own.
well?
Return the slab
What's yer offer?
What's the best controller for PS3 emulation?
I wanna play some killzone 2 and MGS4 but the the xbox controller kinda breaks the immersion
a dual shock3?
no one makes those any more. Are there any good knockoffs?
They're easily available on ebay, dude. Unopened ones are readily available and some go for less than $35-40.
*block your path*
literally
I have the one with the boot logo on a screen in place of the big Xbox logo, it's a cool controller if you want a Duke in this day and age.
Are these actually good compared to ones with Hall sticks, extra buttons, etc, or are they a giant meme?
They're purely for people that want a modern OG Xbox controller. I don't recommend them personally.
They need to bring back the gems. Unironically. Just add more buttons. Backpaddles should be standard at this point, I don't know why every company is scared of adding new buttons.
SCUF holds all the patents for back paddles, and they charge insane royalties for anyone that wants to use them.
How in the world did that manage to patent that?
Patent trolling that makes use of very vague language so they can point to other devices and go, "Look, that's totally out thing!" Same sort of idea as politicians writing intentionally vague laws so they can extrapolate on them as necessary.
Didn't Valve end up in court against them? I don't remember who won if anyone.
Valve lost, but I remember that they appealed. What happened after that I don't know
Microsoft didn't even support shit beyond the standard Xbox controller on xinput, they've been holding off controllers back for years
>No gyro
>got new pc months ago
>official drivers no longer work on my chink xbox 360 wireless reciever so i can't use the pads ever again
at least i can plug my cheap switch horipad and my ds3 and use them without problem
>A at the bottom and B on the right
How am I supposed to play with this shit?
>A at the bottom and B on the right
and when you click the stick, all three of 'em came on
I prefer the DS4
I'm considering buying this even though my usb 360 controller works fine. Idk if the slightly different shape is more ergonomic, my right hand sometimes gets stiff and cramp.
the sensitivity and dpad are way better on the one and series controller. its worth the upgrade anon.
With the PC adapter its almost perfect.
They need to add adaptive triggers and gyro tho.
the leaked new xbox controller is gonna have some sort of accelerometer and haptic vibration but no adaptive triggers
A touchpad is great for emulation
What's the lowest profile FULL bluetooth controller (both hands, two sticks, 4 triggers, etc.) that with or without case you can just throw in your small sling bag?
It's great but started stick drifting after a year.
Mine has a very sticky right trigger and a double-clicky D-pad right
My last xbox controller lasted 13 years before the chord broke and got this. Hopefully it lasts half as long
You're lucky if it lasts 4 years, my Xbox Elite controller from 2019 is already breaking down internally despite me treating it like a goddamn relic. Misses inputs on the A button and the left-right Dpad.
there was a list of mostly flydigi controllers. But how common are instant trigger presses like scuff advertises? also theres usb to usb c mods for ds4 controllers.
Dualshock 4
>Mod it with Controlfreaks D-Pad for the best pad
>Overclock it to 1kHz for input advantage over most controllers
>Best dpad in the current generation
>bumpers are super fragile and the face buttons are mushy.
There's no winning with these controllers nowadays.
Almost like they make them prone to breaking on purpose so you have to buy more often
>cable stops connecting properly after 20 hours
>Left Analog drifts / RB or A breaks in a month or so
it's chink garbage
gulikit king kong pro 2