The combat sucks and ruins the game for zoomer fellows
It’s slow as frick and people just reload when they’re "out of luck"
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The combat sucks and ruins the game for zoomer fellows
Rtwptroon seething thread #667713
And outside of combat is even worse.
There's a reason why people stopped talking about it after they all splooged on their waifu
>people just reload when they’re "out of luck"
Your IQ is not high enough to play this game.
This. It's an R PEE GEE game. You're supposed to roll with what the dice decides. Reloading because a bad thing happened that messes up your dysfunctional min/max playstyle is antithetical to how RPG games are really supposed to be played. We all want our characters to be powerful and min/maxxing is fine, but when it becomes an obsession where the slightest bump sends you into savescumming, you have a problem.
the dice roll mechanic is fricking stupid in this game from this perspective. it ruins the replay value because if you don't save scum the dice can decide for you that you don't get to play the game in a different way than last time.
???
>tfw savescumming to intentionally fail some dice rolls just to see the outcome
>what is rolling with advantage
>what are bonuses
>what are inspiration
you got filtered at overgrown temple
many such cases!
My zoomer friends seem to like it.
>don't want shart to be evil
>tell her not kill girl
>30 persuasion check
>literally can't get it without a natural 20
>reload
>pick the option to not say anything instead
>in any other situation in the game, this would result the character just doing the thing you didn't want
>instead there is extra dialogue and then i could talk her out of it without a skill check
wtf is this moronic shit. everyone in these threads with blonde shart either reloaded or used a guide
no one reads green text anymore because reddit ruined them. its why you need to accompany your slop with a picture of a girl
You need to pass a check if she doesn't like you.
It’s a ROLE PLAYING GAME commit to the role play. The game becomes fricking meaningless the second you start scumming saves because something didn’t go the way you wanted.
>30 persuasion check
>literally can't get it without a natural 20
Skill issue. You’re not going to persuade people to do difficult shit if you have no charisma and aren’t proficient. It’s pretty easy to convince shadowheart without cheating if you’re charismatic and have some inspiration. DC 30s are hard but completely doable.
>DC 30s are hard
Not for Astarion and his +17 to lock picking without any elixirs, or guidance, or scrolls. Mother fricker is a legitimate menace.
>tactician mode
>Isobel always gets nuked first turn unless high initiative roll
>Whole last light inn dies immediately and breaks the story.
Yeah, no. Sometimes save scumming is the correct choice.
I hate isobel so much it's unreal
t. just had that brat from the harpy run head first into a harpy's c**t of opportunity because he forgot to disengage because this game's "friendly" AI is literally suicidal.
Imagine not killing Marcus on round 1 before he even gets to act.
Just make her invisible
I played on tactician on my first run and when Marcus showed up he aggro'd onto my party and Isobel just walked away safely and started killing the other demons with no issue until I killed Marcus and joined her in finishing the other enemies off. Not a single person in Last Light even died and I didn't even have to try. I've heard a lot of people complaining about this fight but I don't get it.
Maybe you just lucked out with the AI, maybe other people didn’t.
Isobel stayed and fought Marcus, but Marcus generally wasn't particularly dangerous and we got him before he did anything outrageous. I don't really get the complaints, maybe if you get really unlucky and Marcus crits her ass?
I completely missed this fight because I somehow completely missed her at the inn while doing all the shadow curse stuff even to the point where I even found the Nightsong and was ready to take on Kethric without even seeing her. It was confusing seeing them talk about his undead daughter being there, but I thought that was literally meant to be those hundred whatever years ago until she just popped up.
I might not have even seen her at all in act 2 if I hadn't teleported to the inn first to try and pawn off some of the garbage I had in my inventory before fighting Moonrise.
The dialogue was my literal reaction
>wait, just who are you?
When she randomly tries to talk to me.
Her and the Assimar are pretty obnoxious and after that intro to them I will not be speaking to them again by my own will.
Soo..? Reload then. Dice checks (especially with critical failures/success) will fail occasionally. A lot of people enjoy those train-wreck situations, but obviously not everyone. Devs clearly understood that when they allowed saving/reloading EVERYWHERE. Just enjoy the game. There's no "wrong" ways to do it.
>plead with her to do the right thing, but tell her it's ultimately her choice
>she follows her heart based on what she's learned with you over the course of the adventure
>Persuasion check
>reverse psychology her into doing the wrong thing
it's that shrimple
I know you guys didn't like it but
>99 skill check
>20 critical success
>But the future refused to change
Was absolute kino
It makes the brain fight much easier, it did have an effect, you can even see the curse it put on it, the intensity is based on how many of those you grabbed prior, if you got all of them, it start with a quarter less health, -2 AC, and loses an bonus action.
That said I dislike they went with those house rules of critical success/failure happen outside of combat. It just encourages save scumming at best to not caring about rolls at worse.
Oh that's awesome then actually. I used up all my inspiration on the second roll I figured it was just aesthetic not actually doing anything. Is the final roll not scripted then? I got the 20 there and I thought it was just the big anime moment
Everything about the endgame was kino.
If you pass all 4 skill checks to dominate the brain it will receive a 25% hp decrease in the final fight as a condition called "Against all odds".
It all about how your relationship played out with her to that point.
I just let her decide what to do on her own and she did the good thing
sounds like you're just a cheating homosexual
idiot, her relationship with you in the gane made her pick shar. mayn such cased where that same option has her sparing the nightsong.
Very realistic. Woman are like children, tell them to do something and they will do the opposite. She didn't want to kill the girl, but she has a "woman" moment when you tell her not to.
>>30 persuasion check
actual skill issue lmao
another episode of "anon hates games that require human interaction skills." you love to see it
you lost rtwp chuddie...no amount of seething will revive your shitty genre
>for zoomer fellows
I don't know what a zoomer fellow is, but it's definitely more for China. All the sales get reported out of there, exclusively.
All of the interest in the game, too, for that matter.
>The only BG3 thread in the catalog
>Larian schizos not responding to these
Did the mods finally ban that mental patient? Are we free?
>checks china hours
Sar, this is not a witcher 3 thread
Bypassing bans now huh?
Witcher 3 will be the best RPG ever for the foreseeable future, isnt it?
skill issue
didn't ask
>Plays D&D game
>Cries about D&D combat
have a nice day dumb Black person.
>this will sell our game!
And yet it is the most successful game that has come out in years
I very much doubt that. They barely sold 300% of what they sold during 3y of ea. All in all they spent easily 150+ m usd for that game and are now cutting stuff big league. Sven will likely break his word and sell a dlc, too.
BG3 is now the third most played game in Steam history, you moron. Its the best CRPG since BG2.
>people play it
and nobody gives a flying frick just like nobody cares about roblox or dota 2
If BG3 doesn't break even, AAA gaming has reached point of being unwinnable money pit.
source?
>They barely sold 300% of what they sold during 3y of ea
Steam Reviews during 3 years of EA : 60k for 2 millions of confirmed sales.
Please note that a 1 review for 30 sales is a very good ratio, many games tend to be 1 for 50-100, EA backers tend to be very loyal reviewers.
Now, after 2+months of release ?
>330k reviews
>+450% review
At the barest minimum, the game has sold 10 million copies on Steam alone, and sold at least +450% after release by industry metric
The only sales figure we have is months old and it came from China where Larian's bulk of funding for BG3 originates. And relative to an alleged flop like Starfield, that has been confirmed to have sold well beyond BG3's numbers at the same time.
That's assuming any data out of China isn't embellished. Which is almost certainly not true.
Yeah I'm pretty sure a lot of studios make up sales numbers for advertising purposes.
They have learned from Disney.
I repeated play thrus, I’ve been designing this character after the last pc I beat the game with. Its an odd feeling.
The exploits/bugs are funny though
Until patch 3 you could throw "can not be resurrected" dead followers into the mundane chest and when pulled out it would rest them before the script changed. It's how I kept a human Wyll, got his reward for killing Karlach, killed everyone at the grove and still had everyone for act2. After Patch 3 however they changed how corpses were treated sadly.
Larian games are overall mediocre
The combat is the best part of the game. Lots of ways to tackle a large variety of problems. Rare good western game bosses.
i uninstalled bg3 after the goblin camp fight in act 1.
turn based combat is for braindead zoomers.
>it takes 30-60 minutes to finish a trash filler fight against a bunch of 4hp gobbos
frick off, larian, dont waste my time with your utter fricking incompetence, learn how to make fun games or just frick off.
>the ugly ass green frog already told me she wants my dick
>after like 5 motherfricking minutes
who wrote this shit.
>cast one aoe spell
>fight over in seconds
Use your brain moron
>a prostitute wants to have sex
Yes very unrealistic
>i cast aoe spell
>it only hits 1-2 gobbos, because they are all spread the frick out on purpose, to make the fight last longer
got any other genius ideas.
Damn if only there were skills and items that displaced foes so you could group them together or force them into a line
yeah i wish there were but this dogshit game barely got any spells or skills, doesnt even have dispel magic.
duh doy im grouping them up but it takes 8456 hours to do so.
>enemy gobbo turn
>he thinks for 30 seconds
>he picks DASH
>watch him slowly walk for another 30 seconds
ONLY 30 MORE GOBBO TURNS TO GO AND ITS MY TURN AGAIN
>yeah i wish there were
oh but there you, its called void bulbs. you would know if you played the game
Group them up moron. Actually just uninstall you're obviously too spasticated for something so simple
>poison the goblin's booze
>win without casting a single spell
>turn based combat is for braindead zoomers.
you're a moron, it's adhd zoomers like you who can't handle turn based combat. can't have an encounter last more than 5 minutes or you'll get bored because tiktok fried your attention span
Waiter, I asked for a katana pasta
>having such low DPR that fights even make it to turn 5
unironically a skill issue
>kill mother superior viconia for shart
>only 1 npc left in some room
>voice is all fricked up and clearly wrong
>immediately pick up on the immense homosexualry radiating from them
>"this is some troon character, isn't it?"
>their diary is about how shart le epic heckin owned the bigots for dead naming them
Beat them to death and left the area.
>what they did to viconia, and trannies everywhere
unplayable cringe game, jesus christ
>Diary says Shart defended the troon
>in game she calls him with his male name
Based Shadowheart breaking Shar's mind control
Zoomers usually get filtered by slower games, but BG3 was shilled by ecelebs so it's wildly popular with them anyway.
>people just reload when they’re "out of luck"
How the frick does that happen? Their rolls must be shit
People keep saying that this will win 2023 game of the year.
Will it???
>play an evil dark urge and give in to the urge every time
>nothing interesting happens, you just miss out on a bunch of quests
Wow.
You don't like Bhaal's gifts?
>end up with literally no companions
>miss out on like half the quests in Act 2 by destroying the Last Light Inn
>get a fricking cape and a useless gimmick transformation in exchange
>end up with literally no companions
you can hire the mercs or make your own OCs, both of which are much more fun.
>miss out on like half the quests in Act 2 by destroying the Last Light Inn
You can nuke Last Light Inn just before visiting the Nightsong. If you are doing a pure evil build you are sol unless you use one of the three exploits to save the Bard, Blacksmith, and Ranger Teiflings from the purge. So it's doable, just not what they had intended.
>get a fricking cape and a useless gimmick transformation in exchange
The cape is useful but yeah, the Slayer needs a lot more work.
>unless you use one of the three exploits to save the Bard, Blacksmith, and Ranger Teiflings from the purge.
It does weird breaks to the game.
>Alfira talks about Rolan saving everyone even though I killed him and his siblings
>prison just has Lakrissa
>however I find Rolan fight shadows outside and he behaves like the drunk scene happen at the Inn
>when I save him and get back his siblings are there
>Zevlor shows up at the spawning pool
>and Mol is at the Thieves Guild in act 3
No quests were given/in the menu but the xp fired off as normal and I'm kinda worried this might break something at the end game when it's trying to gather my allies.
Only satisfaction on that route is having good reason to recruit Minthra, the cape, and cutting off Gale's hand.
How do you enjoy games at all? You don’t, do you?
combat is good (unless you mean performance) but savescumming actually ruins the game
>good & fun combat
>BG3 gameplay
pick one chuds
Cant wait for your copium reactions once this wins 100 GOTY awards.
Dragon Age Inquisition won GOTY in 2014.
>The combat sucks
filtered
why do zoomers like souls-like games anyway? its not even good combat.
Yes it is. You actually have to consider what enemies can do, and they can often do a whole lot. Monster variety in terms of mechanics goes a long way.
here's how it really looks like, even on Tactician:
>click end turn in BG3
>alt tab or do something on the phone for 5-10 minutes
>oh its my turn again
>cast smite/eldritch shit or some other nonsense nuke shit
>click end turn
>alt tab again
turn based BG3 is perfect for low IQ low attention span modern kids.
BG3 is not for me, i need something actually happening in my video games, i dont have the time to just sit and watch.
I got TV for that.
>turn based BG3 is perfect for low IQ low attention span modern kids.
>can't spend 15 second watching a turn play out
good job outing yourself as a moronic zoomer
>zoomer tries to lie turns take 15 seconds
motherfricker this trash game needs 15 seconds to even think what action to make
why are you homosexual shills lying so much?
go ahead and post a combat webm that proves enemy turns take only 15 seconds.
ill wait.
take your meds schizo
>turns in bg3 take 15 seconds
take your meds, schizo.
im doing this rn lol
5 minutes for the ai to take their turn is fricking beyond ridiculous
its a game DESIGNED to waste my fricking time.
if i spend more time watching it than playing it, then its not even a game.
There’s a gate near there that leads into a house with cursed skulls. The quest with the skulls really should be entered from another door. The only time I experienced excruciating long enemy wait times was when I opened that gate and agroed those spirits.
>low attention span kids
>can’t even watch 1 round of combat
You’re some kind of blithering idiot, huh?
>you dont like your time being wasted? you dont like just sitting and doing nothing? huh? what are you? huh? some kind of uh uh uh uh
>alt tab
this is your problem not the games
try adderall
I will spam this board on every single device me and my boyfriend own when BG3 wins GOTY and you fricking homosexuals will seethe forever
its like expecting people to care about the Oscars.
Dont play it then?
Or do something useful with your life like killing yourself. We both know you hate living and all people who know you also hate you.
The combat is good, for the most part, when the enemy to party ratio is relatively equal. When the game gives up and decides to have 4 enemies to every single party member, you just sit around waiting for ages and, fundamentally, swarms of enemies rarely makes for interesting or engaging combat in the first place. No act is actually exempt from this, but the deeper you get in, the more frequent this sort of encounter design becomes. Act 3 is a miserable gameplay experience at times.
Get no limit party mod and adjust difficulty as desired. Always irked me that they all have worms in their head yet only 4 people at a time bother to do shit.
Not gonna lie, I'm not a fan of the combat either. It's not that I am too dumb to get it, rather I'm not interested in investing energy into learning a system (5E) that I'll never use again after beating this game. It's like learning enough Spanish to pass a college course and never speaking the language once you do. What's the point?
I'll be the first to admit I was probably playing it "wrong" - I would send in my tank character from the front, try to flank with my rogue, have a healer hang back. Typical Fire Emblem/FF Tactics/Tactics Ogre/Disgaea/Shadow Tactics strategies, but for whatever reason it doesn't work in this game. You run out of moves way too quickly, so you always start strong then fizzle out. Most of the time my attacks have a ~60% chance to land, and when they do they do meager damage, whereas opponents (of which you're always outnumbered) hit more consistently and harder.
The games I mentioned earlier would balance around your characters having more HP/strength/whatever, it's like that's missing in BG.
there's nothing to learn, its the most braindead combat system i ever seen.
a literal 5 year old child can pick this game up and win on hard.
its literally point and click mobile gameplay, its made for small dumb children.
It's not though, old FFs were like that. The basic attacks suck for everyone but Lae'zel because she attacks twice.
>be a fighter
>pick up two hand crossbows
>get sharpshooter
>???
>win
I'll try this out. Right now my Fighter MC uses a greatsword.
Combat is about as difficult as learning any other combat based game. The filter is the first 4 levels because you don't have two actions, more options, and your caster has no stamina.
If someone wanted to ease into this, I'd recommended Monk/dual wield ranger/Wizard/free space.
i rather enjoyed the combat. I didn't enjoy the degenerate gay shit, strong independent wamen, and "muh hekkin refugeeeees" around every corner. uninstalled. glad i didn't pay for it.
>choose dialogue option
>fail
>enter long arduous combat
>die and reload a couple times until you get good luck
>scrape by with little resources left
>rest to regen everything
>forced to watch moronic characters being moronic at your camp
>finally get back to the dungeon
epic game
BG3 is a genuinely easy game even in tactician, you're just fricking scrub lmao
did i say it was hard?
>i'm good at the game but i keep dying and i cry ;(
are you fricking moronic
Post a video or webm of you winning a fight using nothing but head-on basic attacks.
>using nothing but head-on basic attacks
why would anyone do that? the game offers you plenty of tools to overcome challenges, if you don't use them you're just a simpleton and shoud go back playing CoD
they even included a shitload of potions for you low iq babies to scrap by
Because you said it was braindead like old JRPGs, which you can beat by doing what I said.
You don’t even use weapon abilities, do you? You just attack I bet.
Post your blind first playthrough where you have never reloaded even a single time.
post your mom's pussy scrub
there are barely any spells or skills in this awful game, i couldnt believe how barebones it was when i was playing it.
BG2 mogs it so hard its not even fricking funny.
where's dispel magic, where is time stop, fire shield, blue fire shield, all those spell force fields.
holy shit i think there's like 50 combat spells missing from bg3.
not even a 3 meter wide protect from evil, jesus christ.
>click on the enemy
>dice roll:miss
>pass turn
wow
Skill issue, try any other action than basic attack and cantrips.
>game being slow as shit and boring as frick is a skill issue
ok im using stuff other than basic attacks.
>its still fricking boring
Name 1 (one) turn based RPG that isn't boring to you.
Fallout 1+2.
This is the only existing turn based game that isnt total dogshit.
And its only because of the overly excessive gore, humour and detailed sound design.
>you shot my motherfricking eye out you homosexual!
they dont make them like this anymore.
>complains bg is boring
>lauds game where your only combat options are Attack and Throw
Could you be more of a brainlet
much better than smite and haste.
Two of 60 abilities on late level minthara.
That line is not even in the game
bg2 chads simply can't stop winning even if they tried
larian games suck for everyone, not just zoomers
they're garbage compared to other turn based games
>no option to give laezel, karlach and shart to the goblins
Shit game
Is there any reason to play wizard? Or sorcerer/warlock just outclass it because CHA is busted and INT is practically useless outside combat (i wish your INT was used more in conversations)
>Is there any reason to play wizard?
The Wizard schools and the ability to have all arcane spells in your spellbook so you can change them before every fight and also have unlimited rituals while also not losing a spell cast or a spellslot.
Wizards can learn from scrolls and can also store spells for later, giving them more utility. Sorc/warlock only have the spells they have equipped and can only gain spells from levelling.
I mean yes? The school benefits, evocation not hitting allies, having x amount of guaranteed 18 rolls, double potion crafts etc.
And something like feather fall outside of combat not costing a spell slot so you can use it freely.
Like sure if you want to be a conversation homosexual cha is better, but if you want to do a playthrough where you just fight everything instead of using conversations to avoid it int is fine. The real difference is that it's much harder to boost int than it is str and cha, there's no potion of 23-27 int, there's no easy +2 int hat lying around
I am replaying bg1 and 2 immediately after playing bg3 and they are much worse than bg3. I have no idea what level of mental illness and nostalgia someone has to possess to complain about this game so obsessively when it's an all around major improvement on its predecessors.
i installed BG2 after i was done with BG3 and its so much better than 3, its fricking unreal.
Especially sound design, music and dialogues.
Im having so much fun with it, there are so many spells to pick from.
Also BG2 is hard as frick, im getting filtered in almost every fight and need to reload.
/v keeps insisting BG2 is awful, so far, its the most comfy and kino DND game i ever played.
What the frick is wrong with this board?
Being contrarian is super cool now?
>Especially sound design, music and dialogues
There are like 2 good tracks in all of bg2, and even those are like 20 second long loops like most music in BG2. I find the writing to be extremely inconsistent as they brought in like 8 extra writers on top of what they had in bg1.
>Im having so much fun with it, there are so many spells to pick from
There are, unironically and not exaggerating, more than 10x as many viable spells in bg3. Like 90% of the spells in bg2 are just completely useless.
>Also BG2 is hard as frick, im getting filtered in almost every fight and need to reload
LOL
>guys let me lie about BG2 i didnt even play
BG3 doesnt even have dispel magic, anon.
bonus mega mog on troony gate 3:
here, have a screenshot of walking around the city during the night.
>guys let me lie about BG2 i didnt even play
That's a webm of me playing bg2.
RtwP is an atrocious battle system. Truly the worst of both worlds.
nobody finished DoS2 or BG3, turn based combat is unplayable.
only turn based combat is capable of making fighting a motherfricking dragon so boring, people doze to sleep.
This fight looks much better than
Also, looks like your party member died there, so apparently you were being challenged
zoomers cant handle RTS and RTWP games, its just too hard for them.
>Dragon actually flies around blowing people away just with its girth
>Damage threshold super move that actually has you move your party into cover to survive. Can also be interpreted knocking him out of the sky
>Adds designed to support the boss at the right intervals
Ansur was actually a really cool boss yeah
Three games in and I haven’t seen this dragon yet.
He's at the end of Wyll's sidequest chain, in the secret dungeon below Wyrmrock.
Ah hah! Ok, Wyll’s in my party this run so looks like I’ll find it now.
Wyrm's Rock prison. Two dragon shaped torches. Hit them with lightning damage.
WTF NO SPOILERS I JUST INSTALLED THE GAME NOOOOOO
It sure is, thank God it's dead forever now.
oh frick i remember being filtered by this fricking dragon.
the music is awesome.
>being filtered by this fricking dragon.
It says right in the combat log it casts stoneskin, just cast breach. That's the entire fight, just breach then autoattack. How did you get "filtered"?
fear, some other debuff shit, he just throws my team around, fire breath and just kicks me in the dick.
its hard as frick.
it took me a few hours to win the fight on the underground bridge with an observer.
i facerolled BG3, it was a moronic easy game, but BG2 is kicking me in the ass.
it is, act 2 and act 3 is pretty much one gigantic trash filler fight.
>it is, act 2 and act 3 is pretty much one gigantic trash filler fight.
Why are you lying?
>enter the troony circus
>trash filler fight
>enter the park
>trash filler fight
>go anywhere
>trash filler fight
>things that didn't happen
Meds now
you didnt have a fight in the troony circus?
you didnt have a fight in the park?
>Go down to sewers
>major plot relevant encounters with interesting mechanics and conditions
>Open portal to house of hope
>major plot relevant encounters with interesting mechanics and conditions
>Go to house of grief
>major plot relevant encounters with interesting mechanics and conditions
>Open secret door in Wyrm's Rock
>major plot relevant encounters with interesting mechanics and conditions
>Find trap door in tavern
>major plot relevant encounters with interesting mechanics and conditions
>cast smite
>cast haste
>Some spells are good
Your smooth brain thinks this is a counterargument? That "some spells are good"? Stop playing on story mode if your complaint is gonna be "haste let's me auto win fights" because that stops working on Normal.
>he doesnt know how easy bg3 is on tactician
poor summer child.
>ESL
Sorry Pablo, "haste isn't a one spell auto win" and "tactician is... LE HARD" are not the same statement. Stay in school.
>fear, some other debuff shit, he just throws my team around, fire breath and just kicks me in the dick
Cast resist fear or use shorty saves. What is the problem here? Does everyone who dislikes bg3 have a sub-65 IQ?
>you have to prepare, think ahead, buff, and read to be able to win fights in BG2
thats a nice change, i facerolled BG3 on tactician by spamming smite and haste and never bothered to read anything or prepare anything.
mindless, brainless point and click mobile game tier faceroll.
>it is, act 2 and act 3 is pretty much one gigantic trash filler fight.
I'm doing a blind run, so did I just miss all these? My act 2 and act 3 were basically just kino thematic fights. Maybe this explains why I hit level 12 so late.
Anyone saying BG2 is awful is a contrarian. There are, however, some things BG3 does better. The combat system now allows you to examine enemies to check for weaknesses and resistances. In BG2 you had to play a guessing game when you fought things like liches and beholders, which was less than ideal. I also think the depiction of the Underdark is BG3 is far superior to the rather brown and bland zone we get in BG2.
> im getting filtered in almost every fight and need to reload
Wtf. There’s your problem, you are terrible at these games.
BG2 and BG3 are running on different editions of D&D, it’s not a good comparison. I’d suggest maybe looking into Neverwinter Nights for comparison, since 5e, which BG3 uses, is most similar to 3e out of the older editions. If people are shitting on BG2 gameplay, it’s because they’re getting filtered by the quirks of AD&D.
Whenever my rogue is goes solo, gets caught pickpocketing and is beat into a downed state by the local townsfolk, the weakness of the game's law and order system becomes only too clear. It's stated in the rules that a downed character will die after three failed rolls, but for some reason, in this type of situation, when he's downed in a town area, he never fricking dies no matter how long I wait. That means I can't reset the hostile NPCs to their neutral state. You have to either 1) go in there with the rest of your party and lethally or non-lethally battle the NPCs, or 2) go to camp and do a short rest, which inexplicably heals the downed party member who is not in the camp. Neither of these feel like organic, immersive role-playing options. If you spend any amount of time committing crimes, you soon see just how "gamey" this part of the game is. I would even say that Oblivion deals with law and order in a more comprehensible and realistic way.
>and people just reload when they’re "out of luck"
yeah cause no other games in history have you lose and reload to try again right?
oh wait hold up, that's literally every video game ever.
>The combat sucks and ruins the game for zoomer fellows
zoom zoom can't stand consequences and strategy qqbb
>it's not rtwp where 95% of fights are against trash mobs so it's bad
>95% of fights are against trash mobs so it's bad
why is baldurs gate 3 like that?
It's not, you'd know if you actually played the game.
combat becomes trivial at level 5
BG3 is unplayable because of turn based combat.
i just cant play this shit.
im doing my turns in literally 1 second - i just keep spamming the SMITE NUKE or FIREBALL AOE NUKE and then im forced to sit and do nothing for *insert number of minutes* while the enemy does his shit.
this is my first DND turn based game (i played RTWP NWN, IWD and BG for thousands of hours), and i fricking hate it.
its horrible.
this is not even "gameplay".
its not even a game.
its literally TV - i just sit and watch.
i watch combat, or i watch cringe reddit cutscenes.
its supposed to be a game, not a movie.
frick off.
>RTWP gay seeting
love to see it
my biggest issue is that BG3 combat isnt hard, its justs annoying.
after a combat ends, i always had this seething feeling:
>frick, this shit didnt deserve to much of my time, why is this trash turn based? what a fricking waste of time
>play DnD game
>combat is DnD combat
>get mad about this
Holy fricking zoomer. Do you need a video of temple run to fill half your screen at all times? You kiddos would never be able to sit through 1 session of an actual DnD game which takes way fricking longer.
Baldurs Gate isnt a turn based franchise, thats all there is to say about it.
Larian is simply an incompetent company that can only do 1 thing: Divinity Original Sin.
Its like insisting the next Dawn of War game should be turn based, because Warhammer is a turn based game in real life.
No, frick off, Dawn of War is an RTS.
The same way Baldurs Gate is RTWP.
Frick off.
Bonus kek:
>literally every single person i know didnt finish BG3, they all filtered by the boredom of turn based combat.
every single one of them.
We're having a BG2 ToB LAN party this weekend, though.
Gonna be a blast.
RTWP is just turn-based but shit.
>zoomers cant do more than 1 thing at a time
RTWP is a system where everything already is turn-based in 6-second rounds with initiative orders and everything, but also you can move everything around in real time. What sucks about it is how often what you see on the screen is irrelevant to the actions actually happening in the log. For example, if you move a character out of the way of an attack but the game already decided it was in range, you'll see the animations whiff but still take all the damage. It just turns into a mess of wasted inputs and feels awful and unresponsive most of the time. It's just the worst of both worlds.
>ruins the game for zoomer fellows
>try to complete my campaign I made on release
>oh look, they made a couple patches. wonder what’s changed!
>can’t even play the game anymore because every time I try to pick up an item or talk to an NPC, there’s 10 minutes of delay
what the frick happened. why is everything so shit now.
Can't you speed up the combat or skip attack animations in this shitty game?
if you could, the game would be 5 hours long, instead of 100.
so no, the answer is you cannot speed the combat up.
you WILL watch a goblin waste 60 seconds just to think what to do.
>60 seconds just to think what to do.
The perf in this game is horrendous, it's true.
Wasn't Divinity Original Sin the same? Should have known better
yeah, my mistake for fooling myself its not just gonna be reskinned DoS3....
better question is - can i just remove combat alltogether, because its horrible, i just want the reddit sex scenes.
Playing a BarBEARian for the 1/2 all incoming damage, and using the Sword of Chaos because the free 2d6 healing every turn makes him invincible.
So what's better for Lae'zel:
>Silver Sword of the Astral Plane
>Balduran's Giantslayer
?
Silver Sword is stronger and has Soulbreaker. I gave Giantslayer to Karlach ended up working out thematically when Gortash also got huge
>Gortash
Killed him before I even got to Lower City, pretty sure I only have the absolute left
3.5 e&earlier editions>5 e
Every turn-based game that gets popular without fail attracts actiontard children pissing and moaning. Just don't play turn based games frickwits, it's simple.
>I missed a 99% chance to hit
>it's not realistic
>it's archaic
>umm I have to reload every combat encounter because it's unfair not because I'm bad
Without fail, just play soimething else
Kek, yeah. Their ADHD literally can’t handle it. They’re mind fricked
i play games to play them, not watch them.
I was playing this zoomer game called chess and it's full of fricking cutscenes where the opponent "takes his turn", hungry hungry hippos solved this shit already
the combat is the best part of the game. the story, characters and dialogue ruin what could be an 8/10
zoomers dont have skill, they cant handle rtwp games.
>Fight enemy encounter like you should
>haha lmao get surprised motherfricker!
>Let me LITERALLY FRICKING CHEAT by using weird one-of-a-kind abilities HAHA
>40 round combat
>Rolls: 1 1 3 2 5 2 6 2 4 2 1 DCs: 17 18 19 20 20 20 20 at level fricking 3
>Enemy rolls: How much is your AC? Yeah that much. Not enough? Don't worry let me crit 3 times in a row
>wtf you used shield? let me roll even higher during that same round Lol
>Cheese the fricking cheap AI with surprise rounds or barrels or shoves
>Combat ends in 1 round, none of your class skills mattered, here's extra reward and no spent resources
>Reach level 5
>Game fricking melts because encounter difficulty goes down the drain when actually worthwhile spells come online
combat in this game is garbage and DoS2 is better even with the dumb armor system, but this has nothing to do with "being slow"
Why lie?
rolls: How much is your AC? Yeah that much. Not enough? Don't worry let me crit 3 times in a row
>>wtf you used shield? let me roll even higher during that same round Lol
Oops! Can't crit me have anti crit armor.
You hit me? How cute. Now take shield bash and fall prone.
HEY SOULJA
Imagine being a zoomer and getting fooled into buying this heap of trash lol
now you know how everybody felt when they released divinity OS 1&2
I'm not a zoomer and I loved both DoS1+2, which is the whole reason I was excited for BG3 and I now love that, too. Larian has been my favorite CRPG studio since DoS1.
I'm sorry
I have never seen someone complain about bg3 that wasn't a moron.
your post is irrelevant
Most of the complaints are copypasta, unless there's one anon who plays bg3, goes back to BG2, sets up a lan party with his buddies, succoms to amnesia and does it all again every week.
>he doesn't roofie himself and his friends so he can experience games for the first time over and over again
Fricking casual.
Zoomer/troony thread
>did all the quests I could find on the first map
>was just being an evil shit and murderhobo'd everyone, sided with the goblins so I could frick that very mannish drow
>still only level 4
>mountain pass warns that I'll literally die if I go now because I'm too low level
What am I supposed to do then
Sounds like you didn't go to the Underdark and Grymforge at all. Also the Mountain Pass always gives that warning, but do be sure you're level 5 or 6 before attempting it.
You can do Mountainpass at level 4, it's around level 6-7. You can also do Mountainpass in Act 2, and finish Underdark first.
Man these storyline companions are just ass. A really fruity vampire, how original. Basically Miroku from Inuyasha, very original. Some annoying chick with that ear-bleeding "my dad raped me when I was 8" warbly cadence. Frick sake.
>zoomer fellows
Finding out that the backdrop of Act 2 was basically about a startlingly ugly lesbian picking her immortal, annoying, demi-human lover over her own devoted father made me cringe so fukken hard. It would have been better if those two were actually hot and interesting but both are neither. It worries me how I've never seen this bit discussed here before. I guess /v really has changed.
what are you stupid? are ignoring the fact that Isobel is a selunite, the moonmaiden of the light and that her father genocides people in the name of death gods like Shar and Myrkul while you were dead?? what the frick it's like you guys don't pay attention to ANY OF THE BACKSTORY, and just reduce it to its simplified gender dynamics. woman behavior really.
I was talking about when they first met, moron (i.e when her dad was still a selunite). It was made clear he didn't want them banging since Aylin was an immortal, but oooh no ~true, gay love~ trumps all, I guess.
because it wasn't the end of the world, and not what caused ketherics spiral. not that I'm implying you're saying it did, just that it wasn't a large enough disagreement like their faith dispute. at least that's what I remember.
No, im pretty sure them being lesbians caused all of those problems. You have good points though
if you post something to flesh that out I'll consider it, cuz maybe? but not from what I read in all the texts from the books and diaries. cheers lad.
That's not what drove them apart, and in fact Aylin trusted Kethric until he stabbed her in the back. Isobel dying and Kethric going full Lich schizo and cursing the land is what drove them apart.
yeah that's what I gathered too. was kinda foggy on it tho.
why does love make you so angry?
Love is love anon, it doesn't change wheater (you) are gay, straight, trans, or whatever.
any good mods for a 2nd playthrough? thinking of spicing up a new game with some model fixes and more coomer shit.
I would have expected this game to have more lewd mods for it (gays are some of the most dedicated modders) but alas, there are scant offerings as of now
that's pretty sad. i mean resident evil mods have the most degenerate shit and baldurs gate 3 get nothing. oh well i saw some useful mods anyway like the purchasable camp clothes early mod.
Anyone remember that door you get to in the underdark through teleporting from mushroom circles, and it leads to a different area with a door with a face that you can't get through on that side?
how tf do you get to the other side? never wound up finding it.
Bro that led to Auntie Ethel's hut. I hope you didn't skip that part
Nah I went to her house just through the swamp area. I guess I just missed a door somewhere inside that led back to the underdark.
Yeah, it's in the passage leading down to the boss room where the path splits into a side with a lot of traps and a side with an absolutely disgusting amount of traps. It's on the extra trappy bit.
Be sure to pick up one of the whispering masks (after you fight Auntie Ethel) to see through the door
If you don't get to the mushroom circles from Auntie Ethel's house, those same circles won't teleport you back to the house from the Underdark. Trust me, I've tried bypassing the dump traps and masked people myself in a previous run whilst metagaming out the ass. Larian was clever and thought of everything. You just get teleported to the area with the dumb girl's dead husband instead. And if you teleport back, it goes straight back to the Underdark.
So yeah, metagaming won't work in that particular instance.
getting this thing was the worst decision made in my playthrough. not only does the spell-condition-thing pop-up every two seconds, the way your toon faces the screen makes it so a dragonborn can only have one eye showing - and its the one this piece of shit replaces
>toon
dont tell me you use any other word, now
Character or avatar are the only correct words that I'll ever use.
>not only does the spell-condition-thing pop-up every two seconds
This was the only reason I didn't steal/buy back the nature idol thing from the Emerald Grove after getting it to Mol.
I literally sold that thing just because of the scroll spam of my party constantly going in and out of the radius. It doesn't matter what the effects of it are it could be anything I'd still get rid of it. I cannot believe the devs didn't think that would be FRICKING ANNOYING AS SHIT
it's nice to know when all your buffs are working, and which ones are for some reason missing so you can fix it before you have an oh shit moment in battle.
It was good when it was free +1 CHA, now it's shit
constant see invis, what's wrong with it?
so what happens if you get this AND give the hag an eye? are you perma blind or will volo/the hag refuse if you already took the other's deal
The hag will not take your other eye. I tried to do it.
Can’t have both eyes effected without mods
Save scumming is the best part of the game.
i hate myself for save scumming so much. also my PC could just barely manage to run it so idk if it's just me or the load times are slow for everyone, but i wonder how much of my playtime was spent looking at the loading screen after getting triggered over rolling a 1 on an easy dialogue check.
I have an SSD and every load screen is 5 seconds or less. If you don't have an SSD by now you should really get one, they've been affordable for like 10 years.
i have an ssd, 32gb ram and i play in 144 fps but loading takes more than 5 seconds when i save scum.
Shit for real? I really don't know computers, or that a SSD was such a big deal. My loading took a good minute, and once I got to Baldur's Gate it took another minute for the structures in the world to pop in.
Maybe it's time I look up how tf you install a SSD.
If you get a 2.5-inch SATA SSD it's literally the same as installing a SATA platter drive, and yes the differences are that stark. My loading screens are under 10 seconds and there's no pop in after that, everything is already loaded and ready.
Oh, nvm, first result for a solid-state drive on Amazon is a 1TB external one that just plugs in with a USB. I figured I'd have to actually get into my computer, which I have no clue how to do.
Don't try to play a game through the data streaming bandwidth of a USB port you tard.
What happens?
add "m.2" to your search that's the fast type.
From how ancient that guy's PC sounds I am very willing to bet his motherboard doesn't even have provisions for an m.2 drive bro
I play off a Seagate FireCuda 530 m.2 and the loading screens are never longer than 7-8 seconds on any transition.
Do people just save scum after every dice roll? I save often but really only reload if it's going to be a party wipe and I don't want to wait for it to happen.
I try really hard not to savescum otherwise you're literally deleting at least half the game but it's a very difficult temptation to pass. I strive to only do it if it gets me into some unwinnable scenario or something of that nature.
yeah same. the only time I load for dialogue is if the alternative would destroy my campaign/role play and I was just curious. party wipes are fair game tho.
I swear to frick this game hands out critical failures like candy. Inordinately so compared to critical successes. Game cheats. Save scumming should be encouraged, if anything.
i've got karmic dice on but i still see critical success/failure about evenly (and both pretty rare)
cmon some of the failed dialouge is absolutely hilarious, and lands you in absurd situations. winning all the time is boring.
frick you I use it and it works just fine. I just wanna chill when I play.
not every dice roll, but if a quest comes down to some super important roll, then yeah i'm save scumming. realistically i'm never doing a second playthrough (at least not for a few years) and it seems like a massive waste of time for a quest i've sunk like 4 hours into to get invalidated by one lame dice roll. if it's some small quest i don't give a frick about, i'll just let whatever happen but if it's something for a party member quest then i'm not leaving that up to chance. of course i'm swimming in so much inspiration that i rarely even need to savescum anyway, can usually just burn one or two of those on rerolls to get what i wanted
This. Dicerolls fricking suck. It should've been points based like divinity.
I cleared the game once without savescumming, now I want the rest of the lore and dialogue options that I bought.
My own funny head canon whenever save scumming is touted as an "issue" in any game by "elitists" is simply that my character can control time, and thus, is simply god
BG3 HATES gamepad users
inb4
>he actually uses gamepad
It's an option frick, frick you, I'm using it.
>Three patches and 9 hotfixes in and there are still bugs with the UI wheels and spells being finnicky as frick, being removed/added on the game's whims, while some not showing up when I want them to
>Conjure flame spell still doesn't work right, you have to manually set "Throw flame" every time you cast the "conjure flame" part.
>Game REALLY wants you have the actions "Help" and "Improvise melee weapon" buttons mapped to the wheel at all times, because they keep reappearing on the wheels even though I keep deleting them for being superfluous
>Disguise spell still doesn't work for Big McLargeHuge physiques in the month of our Lord, October, 2023
>Githyanki and Elven ears STILL clip through all hoods. This shit was present in EA.
>still haven't fixed Lae'zel's glaring hair loss that makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a fork every time I am forced to look at it. Meanwhile, modders on Nexus are too busy adding bigger futa wieners to female bodies.
>Enemy AI still cheats like motherfrickers, shooting arrows through walls in Last Light inn, as just one example, also, pic related keeps happening for some derpy reason. Whole section with deep gnomes is bugged to shit
>Shadowheart can't hit the broad side of a barn, but she's gotten so bad at following the party she now bugs the damn boat
>>he actually uses gamepad
yeah stopped reading here, you're a moron
Hope you die in your sleep tonight, mother fricker. If I ever catch you with a Steam Deck, I will personally stab you in the urethra with an AIDS-infected pencil
>If I ever catch you with a Steam Deck
don't worry, homosexual, you wont. i see 0 appeal in your gay little toy
I uninstalled the game in act 3 when Wyll repeated the same line of dialog three times without facial animations and Shadowheart told me it's a shape we didn't get together last act after kissing main character in the same convo. The scripts are just FRICKED. It's going to be a 10/10 game two years from now when they finally patch it, right now it's straight up underbaked.
love the game but definitely acknowledge these issues. wyll repeated some lines here and there, but tbh, that's all too petty for me. definitely looking forward to seeing it get fixed tho.
I savescumed for divinity 2 and I'm savescumming for bg3.
And there's nada any of you homosexuals can do about it.
why does turn-based combat filter zoomers so hard?
it's been the same since the goldbox d&d days. Learn what works and what doesnt.
BG3 has some awful flaws, but combat isn't one of them.
>BG3 has some awful flaws, but combat isn't one of them.
can you name a few? not trolling, just curious. i'm about 40 hours in and other than some small bugs i wouldn't say i have any real complaints (though I've heard people complain about act 3 so maybe the bigger problems are coming )
Not him, but the writing. If you haven't reached act 2 yet, you'll notice how bad it gets once the plot actually starts to move.
Beat the game yesterday. Game honestly got better overall. Act 3>1>2 for me, and I still really loved act 2, it just lacked the variety of Act 1 and 3 (doing mountain in Act 2 helped tho). The final dungeon/final battle was great.
The game's story is so bad by the end that the epilogue tells you that it was stupid and made no sense.
idk all the character motivations, and most of their actions are very well accounted for if you prod into them. anything in particular you thought was terrible?
The writing definitely takes a hit during Act 2. That's when you notice some wokeism, some plot holes, some purposefully ambiguous dialogue that would not have been left ambiguous that would have probably solved many problems in Act 3 (Odd that Vlaakith just HAPPENS to refer to the intruder in the prism as "them" or "they" instead of the proper "he" or "him." Almost as if it's a very contrived and haphazard way to cover up a plot twist you only plan to reveal much later)
Don't even get me started on the absolute inanity of the fact that letting Shadowheart stab Aylin somehow dooms Last Light Inn. Seriously, why can't I at least do that without genociding harpers and tieflings?
the intruder is they/them due to the nature of the dream guardian.
Wrong, the Emperor explicitly states in Act 3 that the intruder whom Vlaakith wanted you to kill was Orpheus. Not The Emperor™
vlaakith was referring to Orpheus actually, there's nothing indicating her foreknowledge of The Emperor iirc.
modern day social politics don't exist in faerun, imo this is just projecting. vlaakith has plenty of well explained reasons for not revealing who it is she wants killed. she states she doesn't even want us talking to the "intruder" barring some unforeseen circumstance resulting in you leaving the creche alive. the bit about last light is ridiculous, it would be more ridiculous for last light NOT to get butchered because Aylin gets murked... because... isobel.... channels the blessing of selune... LOL
Revealing someone's sex =/= revealing their identity
that's true. idk if it was an intentional withholding of information on that specific front anyway. imo this is more hyper fixation, even her enunciation has a very strange inflection pattern so it's hard to determine what it is exactly she's trying to do all the time.
troony hands typed this post. Not the guy you're replying to btw
Killing Isobel would doom Last Light Inn. That makes sense. Killing Aylin dooms Last Light Inn. That DOESN'T make sense.
>PC is allied with harpers/inn residents
>PC allows or encourages shadowheart to kill their daughter
>YEAH LET ME KEEP BLESSING THEM
>implying deities give a shit about their mutt offspring or any mortal whatsoever
in this game, which is what we're talking about here, they very clearly do give tons of shit and constantly intervene whenever possible. that doesn't mean they always can, remembered they're not free to interact with the mortal realm willy nilly.
also, even if ahead didn't, this means that the PC party is allied with fricking Shar anyways. do me a favor and do not reply. you have nothing.
Vlaakith uses they/them because she doesn't want anyone to know that she knows Orpheus is in there. That's who she wants you to kill, but she also wants to play dumb and act like she has no idea who it is for plausible deniability regarding the ruse she's pulling on all githyanki. It just so happens that this works to make the player think she's talking about the Dream Visitor, who the player knows could be either male or female based on your own choices. It's basically just everyone talking past each other: You only know about the Dream Visitor, Vlaakith only knows about Orpheus, and neither side ever bothers to clarify that communication because there seems to be no reason to do so.
Thats...actually a fair point. Still kind of feels like a sloppy way to hide a plot twist, but yeah.
yeah the confusion was even pinpointed later on, and explained by the emperor and other parties.
well shit, wish i hadn't read this comment. oh well
I thought act 2 had the more engaging plot than act 1 (which I already thought was great).
Just started act 3 and so far I found it to be engaging as well. I Haven't come across this drastic quality drop that anons have been claiming there is.
I was willing to believe the claims because frontloaded games are larian'd specialty, but I'm just not seeing it yet with BG3.
Act 2's story makes no fricking sense if you just pay attention to it a little bit.
In what way? Elaborate.
My biggest complaints are that tactician difficulty feels about as challenging as the normal difficulty in D:OS 1 and 2, and that there are extremely few uniquely-constructed combat encounters. It's generally just "kill this evenly-dispersed group of humanoid baddies." I haven't played it in a while, but D:OS1 on tactician actually changed up the layout, abilities, and types of enemies rather than changing some numbers, and felt like it had a lot more variety in encounter design.
Also the AI pathfinding is really crap and annoying.
I'm always let down by these games in length and breadth. It just seems crazy to me it took half a decade to make BG3 when it's not very long at all. So there's no more 'maybe they'll release new modules' like 20 years ago because it would take another half decade and if it's going to take that long just make another title to charge full price.
>not very long at all
My first time through was 150 hours, what the hell are you talking about?
Well I'm on my first run and made it to act 3, and got to a point where I made a deal with one of the main bad guys.
My experience with the game is mostly positive. Never touched 5th edition, so it's fun to learn how it works in itself.
The game lets you handle situations in multiple creative ways, and you can respec your character freely.
Sadly the woke vibe, while not overbearing, is everpresent in the game, and it kinda kills the mood.
The setting is way too gynocentric with female leaders everywhere, and the excess of "diversity" + modern way of speech kills the suspension of disbelief.
From a pure gameplay standpoint, I'd say inventory management and camera work annoyed me the most. I can't seem to get fully comfortable with the interface.
>Sadly the woke vibe, while not overbearing, is everpresent in the game, and it kinda kills the mood.
>The setting is way too gynocentric with female leaders everywhere, and the excess of "diversity" + modern way of speech kills the suspension of disbelief.
yep, almost every non-party member who the game wants to seem cool or badass is a (usually smug rather than badass) woman
maybe i'm biased and misremembering, but i swear if you took every line of dialogue that involves a character's sexuality, well over half of them are gay
and for bugs, I had the game close up on me a few times, and I experience a lot of slowdowns in act III due to the amount of NPC's around. But that can be blamed on my old computer I guess.
The combat is ok at its core but the game fricking sucks at properly going through the flow of combat, making it a complete slog to sit through outside of fights in the intro where there's only one or two, maybe three, enemies to fight.
>attack enemy
>the game hangs on this for some reason, 5 seconds later the attack finally goes through and the enemy takes damage along with the recoil animation from getting hit
>enemy's turn
>they activate dash, sit there for 4 seconds, move, sit still for a few more seconds, then do an attack that hangs again for 5 seconds before the game registers everything
>this happens 6 more times because there's six more enemies before my team can act again
This happens at least one every single combat encounter. In this regard, the combat is absolute dogshit. Everything takes far too long to go through an di just end up alt tabbing out of the game when my turn is over in act 3 because of how fricking boring it is to wait for all of this to happen due to how many enemies you need to fight.
Is Ganker the lowest IQ board?
>people just reload when they’re "out of luck"
you mean like every other video game?
oh no
Why are the gnomes so fricking gay? I almost - almost am forced to leave them to their fate in the Underdark because they are simply that annoying.
Barkroot or whatever his name was could really just be very good friends with that other one, but it doesn't make him any less of a homosexual c**t every time I interact with him.
Same with the angel b***h
>FRICK OFF I WANT TO GO SMASH TACOS WITH MY GF NOW
Frick you too, dyke.
Nah I am fricking save scumming. THREE 30 DC checks IN A FRICKING ROW for lae'zel to not get raped by the parasite chair? no fricking thank you.
>putting Lae'zel in the chair
>not taking the power for yourself.
I don't believe my character could hit that check either.
I think the checks are lower when you do it yourself, if I'm remembering right. The main thing I remember is that you get your illithid powers turned into bonus actions.
>not putting Lae'zel in the chair and stealing the power for yourself at the last second
my Lae'zel had sadly and suddenly passed away after we left her to her devices in the mountain pass, so when we got to the lobster autodoc I went in it myself. I had some checks but nothing anywhere near 30 DC.
I save before every attack and reload if it misses. Its ok, you don't need to tell me how based I am. I already know.
The only thing I really didn't like about the ending is Emperor doesn't have any unique dialogue or cutscene when you defeat him in the final battle. He was essentially the deauteragonist of the game and the narrative foil to Tav, with his own evil party of heroes for the last battle but he just gets swept aside like a common mook.
I don't know much about TTRPGs. I do know the DM can help you out or in general show flexibility in how to resolve encounters and quests. How this is implemented in BG3 feels too rigid for my casual ass. Call it skill issue if you want.
>just reload when they’re "out of luck"
Well if you know you can't beat the encounter you might as well reload.
Yeah, I needed to reload in the gith creche fight with the big boss, he instantly paralyzed MC and Laz, and they died in the first round, and the other two couldn't 2v6.
Exactly, why not reload? Otherwise you have to go through the turns untill you die anyway.
yeah in this game you have to burst down the bosses as soon as you can. alot of times, if you let them get off even one attack they could down multiple characters in one round. as you get higher in level this happens more often, you get barraged by lvl4+ spells all at once. last thing you need is some douchebag with fight ending AoEs.
You really want counterspell from the second half of Act II onwards. Its rare that you encounter a powerful spell before that, but when you do you need to be ready to shut that down.
Thanks, I went for that pretty but gay aesthetic.
I have 1 heavy armor (you see two heavy because I used mod to change the appearance), 2 medium and 1 pajama. Two have 21 AC and the other two 20 AC. Kind of pissed that my monk has to wear heavy armor. I really like the pajama look, but the stats are way too thin for companion. If it was my player character, I could have made it work.
best girl
I appreciate my wife Shadowheart
i love her so much that i don't even mind the cuckshit
I'm in act III and never got the cucking thing.
Is the big bear cuck just a meme? I also have Halsin in my party.
The only way to see the cuck scene is to be playing as Dark Urge and personally initiate it. All the outrage has been people asking Shadowheart to cuck them and then getting mad when she agrees. If you don't bring it up yourself then it never comes up.
its not dark urge exclusive, what are you talking about
also
>All the outrage has been people asking Shadowheart to cuck them and then getting mad when she agrees.
Bit disingenuous since a) Shadowheart says that she is okay with it, even if you don't directly suggest it b) the player character never asks Halsin to join, yet she disapproves if you don't let him in.
it is real although easy to miss. You do need talk with the prostitutes in the first place for it to happen, but she is the only companion to be canonically into it.
Fascinating. In my playthrough (Selunite Shadowheart), I talked to the twins and told them nope and Shadowheart had no reaction whatsoever, not an approve, not a disapprove, not a remark.
if you end the dialogue early, she won't say anything. If you simply pick
>what kind of services do you provide
>agreement? What kind of agreement?
Shadowheart will say that she is ok with it, after the drows explain it. None of the options you've picked directly suggest that you want it, although i don't think that dialogues in this game are polished enough to analyze them to this extent
nope, i just checked on my save file. I never had Halsin in my party and i remember turning him down when he asked me at the camp if i "see him that way". Oh and by
>Shadowheart says that she is okay with it, even if you don't directly suggest it
i've meant that she is ok with doing a foursome with the drow twins. For Halsin to join in you do need to first accept their services.
>For Halsin to join in you do need to first accept their services.
Does that mean it turns into a 5-way or that you have to be controlling Halsin and do the 4-way with Shadowheart and just leave out Tav?
no, Halsin simply barges into the conversation after you agree to the drows' suggestion (assuming that you have him in your party). Then you will have an option to let him in or not.
lmao, fricking hell
Halsin is such a fricking pest.
>Imagine letting Halsin into your party
Druid is sucha shit class, holy shit, why would you want it in your party.
>why would you want a druid in your party
hag sex, of course
Okay, thats a solid point. Druid, yes, Halsin, no. Sounds good now?
The strength of druid is the insane amount of summons. You get elemental, two minor elementals and class unique dryad. Then you turn yourself into a beastform and yeah its pretty strong, but also tedious to micromanage it all.
As far as casting goes, its definitively the weakest caster next to Cleric (except for Light cleric, aka the best cleric)
>hag sex
Aw, petal, I'm blushing!
would
I dunno, my friend's druid caster seemed pretty strong when we played. He was webbing and moonbeaming the snot out of basically everything in act 1.
I haven't used a druid personally to know, but it seems fine.
Personally would rather have a wizard, but I get it if you want more WIS instead of one of the smug ass CHA casters.
i made my avatar a druid, and while he himself is mostly useless, every fight is pretty much trivialized now that he has haste and i can just cast that on laezel who, with added bloodlust elixir, can just solo every encounter. also owl bear transformation is pretty good since the jump aoe is a bonus action and he can attack twice with claws. plus it's got 50 hp and if it dies i can just recast again next turn lel. almost everything else he has is shit, and despite having 20 wisdom my spell hit chance and damage feels extremely low
Haste is such a dumb fricking spell. They really need to nerf that shit. No more AC, no more double movement. You just get 1 (one) action per turn for 3 turns max. That action can be spell or one attack. No synergy with extra attack or any of that bullshit. There, still strong, but not trivializing the whole game.
I have Minthy as Sorc 8 / Pala 2 / Wizard 2. She can twin cast haste, has 21 AC when dual wielding (24 with shield) and +7 to constitution throwing save. I have used haste once with her so far and I will not be using it much if at all in the future.
My man!
haste can get dangerous with more adds.. especially if you don't sanctuary whoever is concentrating it. I tried to cheese the cazadpr fight with my hosted paladin, and they all instantly attack my haster, breaking concentration, leaving my pally lethargic, and destroyed the caster instantly. it can go wrong just as easily as it can go right.
>Bit disingenuous since a) Shadowheart says that she is okay with it, even if you don't directly suggest it b) the player character never asks Halsin to join, yet she disapproves if you don't let him in.
Anon, I literally romanced Shadowheart and even got Halsin to the point where he tried to hit on me. I turned him down and then he never talked about it again and Shadowheart never talked about Halsin one time. Are people romancing and fricking both Shadowheart and Halsin to make this suggestion happen?
Firstly, you need to be a degenerate.
Secondly, you need a Sharran in your party.
Thirdly, you need The Druid in your party.
Accomplish all this and it might happen if you are dumb enough. Otherwise it is mere fiction.
Guys, rate my party.
Pretty, but kind of gay if I am being honest here.
>3 armor wearers
Needs more pajama chads.
>A single high budget game releases with turn based combat instead of being another cinematic over the shoulder action game
>It gets popular
>Zoomers collectively shit their pants
POST THE PUBES ALREADY
>magic cucks
HUMAN
MALE
WARRIOR
the combat was the only interesting thing about the game and the fact that i had to go through story slop to get to it made me quit the game
i wish that you could just like take a generic quest to go kill goblins and get a random generated location with enemies that you can go fight without it being in the world state
The game the bearbroke low iq Gankeriggers.
So whatever stat has the * next to it determines hit chance for spells and attacks? like for Wyll, his Charisma affects hit chance and low int/wis/str/dex only matter for saving throws?
Kind of.
Int is garbage stat that you should have 8 or less unless its your spell casting attribute (wizard or shitty spellcasting fighter and thief subclasses).
Wis is super important for throwing saves
Con is super important for concentration (and it gives HP)
Dex gives you AC, determines your turn order and saves from AoE spells
STR makes you jump further and lets you push others further (and with higher chance). Also protects from getting pushed.
Cha is important for people to like you.
Korean girls!
most braindead slop combat i ever seen, unplayable game.
also cringe fanfic dialogues.
Now that it's confirmed that Larion is a shit studio, how do we save Baldur's Gate?
Combat is great even if it´s simplified and easy as frick. That said that´s hardly a problem with turn based gameplay itself. WoTR is also turn based and can be occasionally hard or unforgiving.
Just say you prefer RTwP, nobody will judge you (ok, that´s a lie, we will judge you but you are anonymous, you´ll be fine)
its meh
a bit of fun for making new builds but just meh
anyone else just want to put a pullet in jaheira's head the instant you meet her? frickin b***h dude.
Is rolling a D20 really a good gameplay mechanic? It creates a weird distribution of events, where events that would usually only be 1% likely are made 5% likely. Sure, it's fun when you have a 5% chance of guessing your enemy's mother's name and getting them to have an existential crisis, but there is also a 5% chance of choking on your own tongue. Seems a bit silly.
well you're not just rolling flat d20. You are rolling with various advantages, and enemies also have stats. and in this game they give you the grace of inspiration, which allows you to reroll events.
thats why critical failure backfires are stupid and why rolling to confirm crits is a thing
Yes, d20 is archaic and has a lot of problems because of how flat it is. As dice rolling goes, Xd6 is much more interesting because there are more dynamic distribution curves to manage and better ways to hedge against bad luck.
your builds are bad. I easily can get rid of a 100hp enemy in a turn.
yeah probably. I play just straight classes. Please tell me about your 1 sorc/3 lock/6 bard/2 fighter or whatever shit you have.
>about to finish act 2
>just realized i don't think i've seen the dog at my camp since the end of act 1
ruh-roh?
he walks everywhere, sometimes gets bugged into the river in the act 2 outside camp. also check down by halsin's area
>start game as anything but fighter
>40% chance to hit on all attacks and spells
>even if you do hit it’s like 1-6 damage
>start game as fighter
>80% or more chance to hit every attack
>hits for 10-20 damage or something absurd
It’s all so tiring. I haven’t tried every class but I’ve tried 8 or so and this always happens, why is there such a massive disparity for level one characters? I’m distributing stats into the correct places but spells are always still shit, attacks aren’t likely to hit, etc. except for fighter which apparently just gets to face roll the whole game. They even give you easy access to a really strong weapon right in the intro.
yeah, but an early level spell (aside from cantrip) is pretty powerful. Sleep becomes pointless early, but also those first fights are auto win when you sleep the entire enemy party. But you can swap spells when you level. Also low level you want casters to have a crossbow.
you guys are keeping uo at least one form of BLESS or other attack bonus buffs during every fight right? phalar alluve sing ability + bless = an easy + 30% hit chance
I prefer to use concentration on damaging spells like Spirit Guardians. 5e's concentration mechanics make me just ignore buffs completely. Also I set Phalar Aluve to shriek whenever I remember to use it because extra damage on the enemies around the wielder is a lot easier to manage than buffing my very spread out party that has multiple effective ranges.
>hey let's try the karlach route oh and I'll do dark urge too haven't tried that yet
>fix her shit immediately, can't wait to see some cringe romance
>nope owlbear cub
>nope demon boobs cutscene
>nope that fricking butler
>nope that fricking butler AGAIN
>nope fricking WYLL WANTS TO FRICK
>end of act 2 with no red breasts
>do several long rests for no reason just to make sure I'm not missing any events
>fukkin nothing
did I cuck myself out of a scene or what
>Human Male Champion/War Cleric(1)
>Biggest body type
>STR Maxxxxed
>Always naked with only helmet on
>Leave all women in camp so you don't have to hear their wailing & bickering
>Romance Astarion
>Gaslight him into giving you perma STR potion
>Pick Tavern Brawler, use your vampire as Improvised Weapon
You all need to learn how to play.
Need a mod to turn the helmet into a bucket.
I personally prefer Hunter 11/War Cleric 1.
Hunter's AoE is nice but I like chimping out throwing people. Sometimes, you can run into enemy archer shooting you from high ground but you can jump all the way up with Champion's Jump Boost and Athlete Feat then throw them from a cliff into others.
Sounds like zoomer normie game