The company that manages to harness AI fully, automating coding, programming, and even some artistic aspects, will not just lead but outright own the gaming industry. Their engine will become the de facto choice for all developers, setting new standards for the industry.
Unity has already killed itself. It's only a matter of time before Epic Games does the same. Know why? Because without competition, there's nothing stopping Epic from making absolutely moronic decisions.
Epic will continue updating Unreal with lackluster features, operating under the assumption that their current lack of competition allows them to do the bare minimum while still profiting. For a time, this will work. But eventually, a disruptive force like Microsoft, Meta, Nvidia, or an even more obscure company will create that ultra-advanced AI game engine, and the rest will be history.
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The race has already begun.
You haven't seen anything yet.
Epic is working closely with Nvidia who will supply all that technology to them.
I know Ganker is moronic but you should REALLY watch GDC and Siggraph talks. They are very important if you want to keep up with vidya tech.
>that like to dislike ratio
I can't see the dislike count, what's it say?
It's not that bad but it's quite significant
Along with the comments turned off, I wonder what happened
Probably just AI bad stuff. This is when they announced partnership with Adobe and such.
Yup. Doomers and luddites at it again I guess
>luddites
Cope
>I wonder what happened
AI bad is what happened. You can see it everywhere any time AI is mentioned.
Combination of people angry at technology and Nvidia talking more about AI instead of powerful, affordable GPUs. That video has a very narrow niche of approval.
I like Jensen. I don't know if I can trust a gorillionaire but he seems so honest considering he's a CEO lol. He just tells it like it is and he's really confident about it. Most CEOs just seem like they're scum.
Even Timmy had a good take
People forget that CEO's are people too, not all of them are scum.
He's given me like 100 free games so he's based in my book but until the Artstation drama last year I never paid attention to him. It's hard to see an old school PC guy like him as a CEO though, Gaben too. They're not just pure business people. Maybe Jensen falls in line with those two, they're nerds before businessmen.
the argument that AI is theft is moronic. nothing is original to begin with, b***h. just like AI, your art and ideas come from some font of inspiration that is NOT YOUR OWN
But what about our souls? You're stealing our souls.
yeah you tell them rashad! tell those basterd b***hs nothing is original!
homie your reply isn't even an original thought. you just see a post and think about pajeets because you are an NPC
what makes you think I'm going to take you seriously?
i don't know why you expect anyone to take you seriously when all you do is throw buzzwords around and expect something to stick, like a child screaming names at his teacher for not letting him shit in the playground. at least the pajeet meme is backed up by actual statistics
"India has been a country that has truly embraced ChatGPT. There has been a lot of early adoption and real enthusiasm from the users,” Altman said in a conversation with Satyan Gajwani, vice chairman of Times Internet, at an event organised by ET in New Delhi.
it seemed to me like the "npc" term was applicable here because you have a conditioned reflex to call anything you don't like being said in a AI related thread to just be related to indians in some way
It's apt. He is a programmed bot.
what you call "conditioned reflex" is what an educated man would call a combination of deductive reasoning and pattern recognition. i'd wager you screaming npc is a defensive mechanism when confronted by uncomfortable truths, so until you stop being sold by your own fricking people, you should shut the frick up lol
https://indiaai.gov.in/article/five-interesting-chatgpt-models-developed-in-india
This guy must genuinely have a mental disorder if he doesn't see how ironic this literal schizophrenic post is.
yes, every poster you don't like in these threads is an indian because you have a link. that discredits everything that other posters have to say
you are true intellectual
yes, and everyone who hurts your feelings is an NPC. you, who can't even back up your own posts with nothing but namecalling and a shitty genned image now and then on the other hand, are the real intellectual
>you are true intellectual
pajeet grammar detected
that was intentionally left in 😉
>i-i was actually pretending to be moronic!
every time
You keep taking the bait like a true npc
you're so smart and played me like a damn fiddle, definitely not rationalizing your moronation
anything ESLse?
anon it's really not that big of a deal. idc what you do
well it's more like I knew it would get that exact response and I thought it would be funny to again demonstrate how saying certain things is akin to tapping a knee with a little hammer
i wouldn't characterize a very minor grammar mistake as "moronation" to begin with
you made a mistake, got called out, quickly blurted out "ah, I actually meant to do that" followed by another insufferable hammering of the "reflex response" key
I wonder if you imagine that none of what you did was at all reflexive
I noticed it after I hit submit and there's no way to edit post. it doesn't matter to me what you believe, just telling you what happened
I don't care and that's not the point
my post is actually more beautiful because it has a human mistake
it's not a conditioned reflex
it's an insult
it's not that deep
and it clearly worked
You're arguing with a community that lynches people for tracing
oh and by tracing I don't mean "overlaying an existing image and drawing over it" like the correct definition, I mean "looking at something while drawing"
Humans learn from observing the world around them. Even when someone learns to make art and take inspiration, they still need years of practice to attain the skill to be a good artist. Same goes for being a programmer, or anything, really.
AI learns from being trained off of a dataset taken from other people's works without their permission. Unless the dataset is trained off of things you made yourself, then that dataset isn't really yours and neither are the creations made with it, because those creations would be impossible without the data you took from others.
There should be strict protections to works and an explicit opt in as part of whatever license you distribute with your works to allow them to become part of any random data set. It isn't right that someone can just make a crawler, harvesting literally everything before any precedent is set and then refine an AI that can produce similar works.
Haha a literal twitter troon argument. Let's go.
>Humans learn from observing the world around them.
And those humans use AI. AI learns this way too.
>taken from other people's works without their permission
No one needs permission to learn from art, to use it as inspiration or reference.
>There should be strict protections to works and an explicit opt in as part of whatever license you distribute with your works to allow them to become part of any random data set.
No there shouldn't and there never will be.
My God(s), you will be up for a rude awakening lmao
That's it? That's all you have?
Calm down, keyboard gladiator.
>No one needs permission to learn from art, to use it as inspiration or reference.
Humans aren't machines and we don't treat them as the same thing. We're talking about the process of training a NN. The NN needs training data. The training data set comes from people's works who didn't consent to any of this.
>why
Because it isn't their data to take.
Humans use machines, they're tools. Your argument is fundamentally moronic. There's nothing wrong with training a model, it's no different than training yourself. You're using that data to create art in either circumstance.
Your only argument is against the outputs of AI infringing on copyrights -- the same arguments that apply to art created with a pencil or brush.
>Because it isn't their data to take.
It isn't yours either. AI is learning concepts and styles, it isn't using your artwork.
Humans use machines. That's why making better machines makes sense, but automating the human element is moronic.
Decades from now some moron will argue that we should automate consumption of entertainment too. Can't wait for art simulators producing stuff that will be consumed by audience simulators.
It isn't automating the human element. It's simply another human element.
gotta hide it harder than that
AMOGUS
It isn't.
Your comparison should have the green shirt guy asking the AI cam to go for a walk and take picture of a billion insects and mix them together.
Basically you can't tell the difference between user and tool an what is their respective role.
This is the most moronic post I've read this year.
They're both machines that help people create art. More utilities to use to express ourselves.
someone number them so we can rollan for waifu
One is a human using tool, the other is a human commissioning something to a tool that doens't know what it's doing or why.
First case something is expressed. Second case it isn't.
They're both human tools for creating art, you should learn what a tool is and how to use AI.
>There's nothing wrong with training a model, it's no different than training yourself.
There is absolutely something wrong with training a model off of things you do not own and do not have the rights to in order to produce similar works.
>the same arguments that apply to art created with a pencil or brush.
You can't point to a human brain and say "this right here is the place in their memory where they trained from my work". You can with an NN dataset. It isn't an abstract. Its real data and it isn't yours.
>It isn't yours either
Yes it is. There is a reason when you go on to a github page and the first thing you see is a license that very precisely defines how the program.
>AI is learning concepts and styles, it isn't using your artwork.
AI is tightening neurons based on the data it is fed. To say it isn't using whatever work its fed is just straight up lying. It's a probability machine that uses other people's data as the model. The output of which is just as much mine as it is yours and every single other person who has had their data fed into the dataset.
>ITS TOO EFFICIENT
cool strawman
>There is absolutely something wrong with training a model off of things you do not own
No there isn't. You do it yourself. Do you own any of the words you're using? No. Do you save images you haven't bought for use in reference? Yes. You learn concepts and we taught computer to also learn them as well, to better help us produce things. There's nothing wrong with that.
>You can't point to a human brain and say "this right here is the place in their memory where they trained from my work"
Yes you can, you can blatantly see inspirations all over the place. Your argument applies to AI as well lol.
>Yes it is.
No it isn't. It's based on exterior concepts you incorporated and legally you don't own your style.
>cool strawman
It is your fundamental argument. It all boils down to AI being good. These arguments didn't exist when it was bad.
These arguments didn't exist when you tech-lickers didn't have an AI boner and started thinking you can automate art skipping the human.
AI art has been around for many years. People only started crying when it was released to the public for free and the quality was high. Yours is a jelly fueled argument with no moral basis. You just don't want to share and that's just too bad.
Share what?
The title of artist with artists of an emerging medium.
So you are just like a Star Wars fanboy who is butthurt at people calling it space fantasy instead of sci fi. Got it.
Sorry not sorry, but concept inform definitions, not the other way around. If you want to be called artist remove the autopilot from your pencil.
When Andy Warhol wanted to sell a can of soup to artgays he called it pop-art. You can call your art-salad "prompt-art" or something.
reference =/= theft
art, including written works and movies, need critical thinking to elevate it to what actual art is. ai will never be able to perform this function, if you can't see this than you are an unironic midwit.
There is no such thing as art theft in the context of AI. You are a fricking idiot crying about referencing and pretending your tear filled definition of art is anything but nonsensical cope.
>There is no such thing as art theft in the context of AI.
Bravo fellow brain damaged anon. Ask your mom if she dropped you on your head when you were little, would explain a lot.
>There is no such thing as art theft in the context of AI
Of course there is. Isn't Getty Images suing the frick stability AI because their AI shits out their watermarks? lol
Call me when the case is closed. Keep in mind Getty is all in on the AI train as well.
>it's just your style bro
No, it really fundamentally isn't, and that is observably true when you look at a chat model, ask it to spit out code so specific that it gets whittled down to what amounts to a reworded forum post because its prediction only gets so specific before it stops getting "creative" entirely.
I'm not even against AI. I am only against no one having control over what is allowed into data sets. And I have right to be, since it's just going to be used by massive corpos to frick their employees in the ass as they train and refine the AI that is going to replace them.
>it spits out viable code and .. and that's bad!
>it's not creative all of the time so that invalidates when it is creative because uhhh it just does ok?
lol. You aren't fooling anyone with your b***h ass twitter arguments, you hate corporations probably because they won't hire you. Trying to lord over data is cringe. It's open and will stay that way. Cope.
>no argument
>it spits out viable code and .. and that's bad!
strawman
>it's not creative all of the time so that invalidates when it is creative because uhhh it just does ok?
It not being creative all the time directly refutes the idea that it's "just learning your style bro". If part of my work is in that fricking dataset then it isn't yours, homosexual. It's my fricking code. It's my fricking art. Want to train an AI to do what I do? Then get the right to the data first. It's really that simple.
>strawman
You don't even understand what this means.
>It not being creative all the time directly refutes the idea that it's "just learning your style bro".
You aren't even talking about art, your argument is in complete shambles. You were talking about a single example of generated code which is extremely shallow and specific compared to image.
>ad hominem
Still not an argument, moron.
>You don't even understand what this means.
I can only assume someone would only even say something like this if they are a literal child that just learned what a strawman is and are now projecting their moronation on to others.
>You aren't even talking about art, your argument is in complete shambles.
It's the same. It's the exact same technology you stupid homosexual. The tensors might be arranged differently but it is the exact same process.
>It's the exact same technology
Genuine moron. As expected from a twitter troon.
They are the same. You have no argument. You probably don't even know what a tensor is or an NN. You are actually not even equipped for this conversation.
A generated line of code is not even 0.00000001% the same as a generated image. You are mentally moronic beyond comprehension. Coping so hard it's hard to believe.
>A generated line of code is not even 0.00000001% the same as a generated image.
The process of generating either of these things based on a prompt is extremely similar, which is why all of these different types of AI generators all exploded at the same exact time as advances were made, whether it be voice synthesis, code or image generation. It's all derivatives of the same probability model. It's the same exact technology.
>goodmorning sirs
Yeah my argument is that youre a midwit that doesn't understand the first thing theyre saying.
>It isn't right that someone can just make a crawler, harvesting literally everything before any precedent is set and then refine an AI that can produce similar works.
why
>ITS TOO EFFICIENT, IT'S NOT FAIR
This just makes you a joke. You can use it too.
burden of proof ((should)) lie on the owners, to somehow prove that this exact one piece of their work was used. which is of course impossible
Technically, everything made by AI is a new piece in and of itself, so the rights are theirs by default, claiming otherwise is moronic as are whole burger copyright laws anyway
All of them are scum.
>that building sized GPU at 18:40
Imagine playing vidya on that thing.
>install TLOU PC port
>still get fps drops
>DUDE
>AI
>CODING
>VIDEOGAMES
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN? STARFIELD IS SHIT, ITS LIKE AN AI MADE IT!!
You are vastly overestimating the ability of AI to do any complex task
>You are vastly overestimating the ability of AI to do any complex task
Can you explain why in English?
>Muh ESL
Frick off burgerman
>Heh, my perfect youtube video made to market shit for dumbdumb consumers will totally own this guy
AI will help in creating assets but will not create gameplay code from scratch for anything more complex than Snake
Because the code it will create will be so fricking buggy, you will save time on just writing the shit from scratch by yourself.
You think it will be like this:
>Xbox, make me a game
>Heres a perfectly optimized open world shooter adventure building do it all EVERYTHING game with infinite possibilities
But in reality it will be like this:
>here, have a 2D platformer made in fricking pygame
>No, make me a billion dollar 3D shooter with realistic grafixx
>here, have a 3D doom clone
>Okay homosexual, just create some randomized terrain with randomized texture with these settings for me
>here
>it still looks like shit and i have to vet all the results myself
There wont be a physics engine made by an AI.
There wont be a renderer made by an AI.
There wont be sound engines made by an AI.
All of those three are never going to be made by an AI because they are huge, complex projects that will be infinitely more harder to debug and to develop if an AI generated important code for them.
If you think otherwise you just have no idea how things work.
>AI CANNOT CODE EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN PROVEN ABLE TO
Why would you delude yourself like this? Do you just enjoy being wrong?
>>AI CANNOT CODE EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN PROVEN ABLE TO
AI can code, but so can a bunch of pajeets
Never have in my post did i say otherwise.
In the long run, pajeets might even be cheaper
>if i obscure my fear of the future under a thick veneer of racism, people will agree with me
code monkey is very afraid
No argument Black personhomosexual
>AI CANNOT CODE EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN PROVEN ABLE TO
Proven, how? All it can do is look up code from stack overflow and try to output something that resembles functional code, and the most advanced game it "made" was a straight copy of Flappy bird, one of the simplest games ever made.
I don't understand why people judge the potential of AI based off what it's made while the technology behind it is still practically in it's infancy. We've gone from using neural networks to play board games like Go to AI programming admittedly simplistic games in a few years and the progress in the field is only accelerating.
Everything you just said about coding applies to assets too. The people impressed by AI art do not make art and do not know what art is used for in any practical sense.
Dude for real, stop being ignorant
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Nobody cares what a machine has to say, except maybe autists who were already missing the forest for the trees.
>the code monkey is afraid
heh
Not really. Most coders like to be on the brink of new tech. It's mostly artgays holding us back right now. I'd be happy to work with an AI that can make parts of my work faster.
>I want games to be even more of an industrialized product than they already are
AI breaks away from that, you can see it in the art anons make.
I can see it in the garbage AI porn art that i have to fricking wade through every night during my gooning sessions
If this is the best AI can do, we should just nuke everything and start from scratch
Truly disgusting if you think the crap people post is impressing
>autistic coomer talking about what is disgusting
Yikes.
AI porn is as much ART as is the AI code, it truly is disgusting i agree.
as long as there are people willing to look at AI created stuff (knowingly or unknowingly) and tell it that it sucks, it can be trained to get better at it
Breaks how? It's the very definition of it, art has completely automated just like the shit industrialized food we eat.
>, art has completely automated
What do you think this means? This is such a ridiculously empty statement, you think you're making a point but you aren't.
It's automated meaning anyone can create anything they want. They aren't subject to the industrialized(popular, lowest common denominator shit) crap people eat. They can make the things you like, what they like. The niche but awesome stuff that trannies have spent the past 15 years trying to destroy.
Or the things modern artists don't even make. Like classical art.
This is beautiful and depressing at the same time
>beautiful
Needs more work on it. Looks way too clutter and makes no sense looking up close.
It's from last year and low res, I bet the same prompt in SDXL would be way better. That model was much better at coherent classical art than other models I've seen.
>AI slop
>classical art
This is a bigger paradox than going back in time and to an alternate reality so you can impregnate your female self 5 minutes ago
>They can make the things you like, what they like.
Lmao, no. They won't.
Unless you want a salad of marvelslop
Can you explain what the frick you're trying to say in this post? They do, some people do make marvelslop.
Formulaic, artles, heartless, slop with no thought given.
The best movie AI will be able to do is a salad of marvel-like movie, becasue it does't know what it does or why.
This entire discussion will only make sense when AI will be actually AI, with actual intelligence, awareness and purpose.
>no no no you see, the constant stream of the same anime girls with the same styles, same faces, same expressions and same poses proves you wrong!
Stop. You will never be white.
Guess even "being white" didn't make you smarter than the average nog then.
Pretty sad.
t. gay tourist
>Everybody ITT arguing with pajeet techbro
Just stop
>techbro
yeup it's a troony
ass
All these AI advancement yet I don't see any good games being made from them.
Because it's still improving and people don't know what to do with the tools. But the proof of concepts exist, it's just a matter of time.
If so are we going to get more cut/paste cod stuff or actual revolutionary games that up the standards. Heck do these AI help optimize the games better, because that's something lacking in today's games.
Both but you don't seem to understand what AI is currently. They're just tools to do things way faster right now, or to help you do things you couldn't do. And they're not perfect. The current paradigm of AI needs to be trained and we're not even entirely sure how to train them. But we do know for a fact these AI systems can be trained to do anything. ANYTHING.
So models are being trained today but they're not perfect.
Even when models are trained people might not use them.
Meanwhile the quality of the training and the models improves because research and development is a constant process.
Eventually someone will use them. If it works well you'll see way more adoption(you saw this in the past year with LLMs, voice cloning, art, and we're in the infancy stages of video).
And it will keep growing from that.
The tech is still in its infancy
Look, we see AI/LLM's -could- code. At the moment, not very well. But they could.
Remember that.
You should scroll back 5+ years and read what people were saying about AI making art. Then look at the world today. It's a good example of the progress in AI and how fast it moves.
AI art is always and will always be meaningless soulless slop.
Years ago you said it wouldn't exist. Takes like this are always wrong.
No, there isnt any wrong or right behind it.
The reality is the AI artwork isn't your art.
Art is the expression of raw skill and emotion that goes into a specific art piece.
Nobody has reason to give a single frick or care about a single piece of "artwork" you made with an AI generator. There's no skill in anything you did. No emotion behind what you choose to do when inputting a prompt. It's a meaningless string of words you put together that given enough monkeys and type writers could also generate.
The real artwork behind AI art will remain the actual artwork stolen to train the AI, and the code behind what makes the AI itself work.
Not the moronic shitter that typed a few key strings together and got an image to pop out of the technology.
If anything it'll just cause people to further demand a personal element to the artwork and media they consume attaching an even bigger importance on behind the scenes transparency, and proof the artists tangible creation.
They can't even get an AI to write a coherent novel beginning to finish that's worth a damn in reading though, and likely never will. That much understanding of every facet of the human condition and how to properly tell a story with those elements simply can't be done by an AI feasibly any time soon. There's just no frame of reference for them to do that.
so your entire argument as to why it's bad is because it takes less work
meh
You don't realize it because you are moronic but you are like the people saying planes would never exist. You are fundamentally wrong about this and you're making up random bullshit in a vain attempt to seem credible.
6000 pack abs
One day we'll fight enemies like that in vidya.
Thats a childish cherrypicking argument.
I was fricking promised hoverboards and flying cars as a kid, never happened.
>Virtual reality is just around the corner! 2 more years!
All of those things exist and have nothing to do with this thread. More proof that you're literally moronic.
Yes and two more weeks for a space elevator
Soon humanity will be among the stars, we will live in Mars in big bubbles of glass eating basedbeans and procreating with our cousins and sisters
I can cherrypick too. The fact that you pick something from the past and use it as a strawman is moronic. You completely assumed what kind of beliefs that Anon had, and tried to mock those imaginary ideas.
Grow up, realize that 99% of tech startups nowadays are literal scams. Theres a word for this phenomenom, "fake it till you make it"
>continues to demonstrate just how moronic he is
This is pretty funny. He's completely off topic at this point and just raging.
You have no arguments, except that picture of yours which is the literal sameface shit some Anon already mentioned about. Its fricking garbage and destroys my fricking boner everytime.
Cavemen used to fricking jack off to cave paintings made of shit and that image still repulses me
mmmmmmmm melons
Nope. Those are not comparable.
There is no reason for me to care about what slop an AI put out because an anon typed "make up a story about a noir detective solving the case of a missing sandwich" or what have you over an actual writers work.
One is refined down to nearly every sentence, word, character development and trait to tell a specific story someone wanted to tell down to every background detail and imagery.
The AI just threw up word soup based around a simple story idea and structure using a database of similar stories and shits out what the algorithm it's trained on tells it to.
One has artistic expression behind it, purpose behind every choice, ones generated slop.
You can build planes bt you cannot build art.
I just busted my gut laughing. Thank you.
Not always if you work on it using photoshop.
Stuff like
is what I assume you're referring to but those are your low tier stuff that your coomer broken mind person would say is good.
Stuff like
are pretty good especially touching up a bit in photoshop or using it as a base sketch idea..
damn this is pretty cool, I wonder if this gay
can create anything comparable
probably not
>It le looks cool
And so that's the only meaningful thing behind the artwork to you? That it looks cool to consume? There's no reason for me to care about your image prompt generating profile of meaningless art.
There's no discussion in those images beyond the face value of what's in it.
There's no driving why behind the choices the AI made when coming up with it, nor the technical skills the artist used when masks it.
The average prompt jockey would have zero clue what the creation engine is actually doing to generate specifically what's happening in the generation to generate it that way. So the actual interesting technical points behind it aren't worth talking about.
Photorealism as a genre is proof of your artistic skill and mechanics tangible to paper. It's why photorealistic paintings are so interesting to look at. Even despite the fact we've discovered actual photography along the way.
All AI gays can ever do is talk about how cool the artwork or whatever is being put out is. Or how neat the gimmick it is. It's all worthless without the meaning behind it.
All you do is whine about awesome art. You never post anything because you know the quality of what you like or have made is lower than what the AI chads are enjoying. And most of your post is just babble, you aren't saying anything.
>awesome art.
You haven't posted any
Everything I've posted is better than what you've posted. It's great artwork.
>emotionless slop
>great artwork
>nothing because he knows AI is superior
There is no human emotion that went into generating that artwork. There is no human ability that went into painting that picture. It's worthless garbage.
>it's inherently valuable because a human did it
No, pajeets shitting in the streets are not valuable and neither are their excretions, although they can cause trains to derail and kill hundreds.
Try again.
Keep telling yourself that.
What human technical ability went into generating that image. What about it should make me care about it. What emotion was the artist trying to convey when making the artwork?
The answer is none, and the answer is he didn't because he didn't actually paint the brush strokes.
I'm not wasting my time answering questions this stupid.
Because you can't.
You have no argument.
>AI generated wojaks
Slopception
AI-generated obese female wojaks. Alright, yeah, that's a good use of technology
this one is funnier than anything the sojack party guys could cook up in the past year
congrats bro, you got me
anon, you pretend to care a lot about this but you wouldn't even be able to pass a turing test equivalent to determining what isn't or is AI art if it was put into your videogames
Thankfully it'll become law for any creative medium that has AI generation in it to disclose said generation to the public, and there will be plenty of AI powered AI detecting bots to determine what's AI based off structure etc.
Then I can simply choose to not consume anything thats entirely generated by AI like I choose not to consume empty calories and hifructose cornslop.
yes, because the geriatric people running your society care about AI artwork and have always handled technological issues with expertise in the past
They are using AI in propaganda too, that kind of law exists in China and potentially in the UK but it won't exist in America.
>that shadow as if she's wearing crumpled pants
Prompt jockey won't be able to shit but cry when the only thing his AI artwork is good for is PowerPoint slideshows.
Actual, real art will always be tied back to human creation and not automated machines following a prompt.
The real art world will expect to see you actually be able to create something of your own and when you're unable to do that without using someone's code trained off someone else's artwork you'll be laughed out of every room.
This is what he tells himself every night while he wipes the tears from his eyes.
>"I'll be able to hide it, I can run away. No one will use it."
*dies of copium*
people look at this and think "yep, this looks good"
which is why we will be flooded by "ai" "art
AI is the blockchain of the 20s
>assumes unreal has some kind of monopoly in the market
Imagine being moronic on purpose like that
Paying a swarm of pajeets will always be cheaper than a warehouse of gpus running AI. Also, same reason McDonalds doesn't go full automatic machinery despite it being braindead simple.
luddites can't stop losing
I knew you were to point this out which is why I mentioned it kek, gotcha. Did you forget to mention the cost of maintenance? Look it up. Paying an engineer is more expensive than having hundreds of burger flippers full time. If you think this is sustainable then dunno what to tell you man, don't replace your brain with chatgpt.
And nothing will ever change, right?
https://www.robotics247.com/article/robot_prices_drop_ai_investments_ethics_worries_increase_finds_stanford_hai_ai_index_2022_report#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20median%20price%20of%20robotic,academics%20can%20get%20educator%20discounts.
You're the definition of confirmation bias. Two weeks sirs! It's not like OpenAI is burning billions, they will do the needful!
You are the definition of a moron who keeps digging himself further into a hole of moronation. You're never right about anything.
>no argument
Maybe go ask chatgpt for one lmao.
>I have no argument
>Maybe I should ask chatgpt for one
FTFY, moron.
The good games being released now, the small indie ones, aren't going to spend $500,000 in Adobe, Oracle, Google, Nvidia and other licenses to use this stuff.
Meanwhile AAA will get even more formulaic and tasteless.
As a reminder, Stable Diffusion was a leak was never intended to be used by us. As another reminder, NovelAI, the model that every 2D checkpoint is built upon, was also a leak.
Local text generation? Yep, a leak. Although Facebook/Meta saw value in it and they're relying on open source improvements for their models to compete with OpenAI's GPT4.
Literally nothing you said is true, that's kind of impressive.
You must be new if you weren't here for each leak that debuted on Ganker. It was huge news.
>The good games being released now, the small indie ones, aren't going to spend $500,000 in Adobe, Oracle, Google, Nvidia and other licenses to use this stuff.
doesn't cost that much
>Meanwhile AAA will get even more formulaic and tasteless.
true
>As a reminder, Stable Diffusion was a leak was never intended to be used by us.
wrong, it leaked early but it was still releasing a few days later
>As another reminder, NovelAI, the model that every 2D checkpoint is built upon, was also a leak.
not every 2D checkpoint is built upon this
>Local text generation? Yep, a leak. Although Facebook/Meta saw value in it and they're relying on open source improvements for their models to compete with OpenAI's GPT4.
GPT3 and many other models are open source.
>GPT3 and many other models are open source
>OpenAI's model is open source
what the frick are you talking about? the only open source model were gptj snd pithia and those were garbage, only /aids/ cared about localshit until llama happened
Don't waste your time, pajeets are delusional.
I'll have to look up the SD thing, but I remember a big brouhaha about the leak being uncensored.
What 2D models aren't built upon the NAI leak? Even the furry models obey the same tags.
Stuff being trained recently? Maybe (especially for those spoiled furries), but the NAI laid the foundation that makes all the others work. It's why everything obeys booru tags instead of SD's natural language.
>GPT3 and many other models are open source.
GPT3 is not open source. It started the mockery of the "OpenAI" name.
>I'll have to look up the SD thing, but I remember a big brouhaha about the leak being uncensored.
You're thinking about the second SD leak, there were 2 but they were just early releases.
>What 2D models aren't built upon the NAI leak? Even the furry models obey the same tags.
Every XL model for starters. Trinart, Ghibli, and WD from when SD just came out. Breakdomain and there are others too, just random finetunes with styles on top of them.
>Stuff being trained recently? Maybe (especially for those spoiled furries), but the NAI laid the foundation that makes all the others work. It's why everything obeys booru tags instead of SD's natural language.
> Even the furry models obey the same tags.
You don't seem to understand what language is...
NAI is buried and has been for most of this year.
>GPT3 is not open source. It started the mockery of the "OpenAI" name.
GPT2 sorry.
Alright, I stand corrected on the SD thing then.
I do remember trinart (and I still use its vae), but none of those really took off and influenced the way people did things. Trinart was also doomed to fail because it purposely excluded nudity. WD was, well, just not very good.
I guess looking back there was stuff like gap and others I can't remember, but people relied on mixing them into NAI to get reasonable results.
NAI is buried in that no one uses it, yeah, but everyone built upon it and for a while it was the basis of many releases, including the (in)famous AOM and Anything which paved the way for people to start branching out. I don't think things would have panned out the way things did if not for the NAI leak.
Well, I need to sleep. but I'll check the thread later so you can reply and I'll read it (but be unable to response most likely)
There's nothing much else to say. You're right about things being different if they were different but they weren't lol. SDXL and its finetunes can do great anime too and it'll only keep getting better.
My cum is leaking out your mom's puss
GPT post.
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Bros i think you are literally talking to a shitposter using chat gpt
It's not a zero sum games you fricks. Artists and AI art will coexist. One will feed the other and, like coding, you need a human to know what is necessary and give it the finishing touches. It is not goddamn magic and products needs are very specific.
Game devs already have full on QA nightmares where one piece of code hidden somewhere that was working fine prior is now breaking the entire system and they have no clue where or what it is.
And this is with every piece of code being written by, overlooked and accounted for by humans.
It's hilarious you expect me to believe that there's ever going to get to a time where a massive project like an AAA title is going to rely on large swaths of its entire codebase on purpose being AI generated with those generating it having even less of a clue of where to look and go back to in order to fix bugs, squash glitches etc.
If a human is required to give it the finishing touches already you're better off at that fricking point hiring humans to sit write the entire goddamn thing. That way they'll at least know the code they contributed themselves like the back of their hands.
https://medium.com/@ignacio.de.gregorio.noblejas/microsoft-just-showed-us-the-future-of-chatgpt-with-longnet-124e106cbd6c
>Wow it generated 100,000 words filled with plot holes, characters with no real proper personality, character developments, traits, no proper resolutions, incomprehensible storylines and no overall message, meaning or anything beyond being X set in Y
Congratulations it's worthless for everything except smut.
>That’s still a huge number, but it’s 10,000 times less than LongNet.
You lack a brain.
It's worthless for smut too since every single neural network model is lobotomized as hard as possible to prevent smut from being generated.
there's stuff in this thread I would nut to, so I think you are wrong about that one
Anons here can nut to floor tiles, it's not exactly an argument in favor of neural text networks being capable of generating smut. They aren't and every single text model gets more and more limitations included on a level you cannot avoid beyond dancing around the issue with cope solutions. I'm not talking about image generation by the way.
Aware of what exactly, your shitty local ran models that you still have to cajole to make work in any meaningful way and the moment you use the wrong word have them shut down?
>he isn't aware
Fricking longnet
Crazy shit
You really don't see the bigger picture here.
You're stuck in the passed.
Adapt now or be left behind.
>stuck in the passed
whitest AIgay itt btw
Yeah a typo
Human error
Something AI doesn't really have
actual cuckold
There is no bigger picture.
AI art is worthless to the actual art industry. There will never be an AI generated masterpiece.
AI authors will never publish a best seller. Will never release any critically acclaimed work.
It'll only ever be useful for coomrotted losers thinking with their wiener buying generation tokens to prompt more pornography and have their fake girlfriend beg for their virtual wiener.
>AI art is worthless to the actual art industry.
This has to be satire.
You'd surprised how apt AI can be at spotting errors in code, even something like chatgpt can be fed multiple blocks of code and spot the errors through them and predict where errors will occur. I don't know why people who haven't tinkered with AI assume to know it's capabilities. If something like chatgpt which is a general use model and open to the public to access what do think big companies like microsoft who are tired of paying pajeets codemonkeys have going on behind closed doors.
Again, there will be zero purpose to consume anything that labels itself "art" that uses AI generation.
Videogames really are the only things that can utilize it in my eyes, and when I mention utilize it, I mean specifically towards something hyper specific like procgen, world gen etc. Shadows of a doubt is a good example of what it can do for a videogame.
Videogames itself though are already large collaborations and group projects for the most part. It's an interactive experience broken up into many different specific parts.
There is never a point where I'd willingly read a novel written by an AI. In part by an AI etc. That'd be a violation of everything i come to expect from an author/reader relationship, and really in general just be a pointless exercise in futility.
https://twitter.com/CopicSquiddo/status/1701616303902191630
people like you can't even tell the difference
>Ma'am.
why do people talk like this when they are online?
Well that's not what I was talking about at all in my post about coding. I disagree with the notion that AI is incapable of producing anything of worth artistically though, I think that with advanced enough models that are capable of generating whatever the prompter dictates it will simply become a "numbers game" in the sense that even if only one out of a thousand generated images can be considered beautiful they can simply generate more images for what ever use case they desire. I think people put too much stock in the "uniqueness" of the human ability to create things of value. From my perspective the human brain is effectively a biological analog computer in a sense, I don't think it's impossible to replicate the capabilities of it.
I visit Ganker just for these brainlet take on technology.
Thanks anon!
>basterd b***h moron luddite npc cope seethe 2 more weeks
The cognitive dissonance and lack of self-awareness from luddites is absolutely amazing.
>The cognitive dissonance and lack of self-awareness from luddites is absolutely amazing.
projection
>There is no bigger picture.
AI art is worthless to the actual art industry. There will never be an AI generated masterpiece.
AI authors will never publish a best seller. Will never release any critically acclaimed work.
It'll only ever be useful for coomrotted losers thinking with their wiener buying generation tokens to prompt more pornography and have their fake girlfriend beg for their virtual wiener.
Everything Epic adds to Unreal is just something that one of their games needed. They don't add features for the purpose of being competitive with Unity.
I like how artgays kept laughing, telling everyone around them to "learn2code" when their jobs were getting automated away, and now, after they did and programmed a machine that could art, artgays are now crying and either denying its existence or demanding the technology be buried along with its users.
Karma is a fricking b***h ain't it?
Yeah frick you.
Not an artgay, but karma will also come for IT jobbers
Not in the way you think. Knowing how to code is only part of the job. AI is just a tool. I use it occasionally and it just saves me some google searches.
It's already having a massive impact on schools and education yet governments refuse to regulate it.
Big companies won't even have any second thoughts when they'll replace jobs by AIs.
I wonder if you morons really believe the bullshit you spout.
That anon is right though.
>It's just a tractor a cool vehicle it will not replace farmers jobs or anything
>it's this guy again
What kind of autism do you have to be making the same fricking threads and post for a year straight.
This is the first time I've ever made this post though, and I would not be schizo enough to handle this board for one year
Your posting style is extremely recognizable.
You can only reply to criticism by calling "meds", "schizo" or "troony". When you get called out you just say "this is my first post".
This thread has like 30 IPs it's fricking obvious there's a frickton of samegayging.
Post videogames or frick off.
You can tell how often this autist is called a schizo troony who is off his meds. Holy shit what a post.
This actually is the first time I've posted this though.
Take your meds, troony schizo.
AI is a hammer, not a tractor. Cannot be used in all circumstances but speed up the job.
WAAAAAH DADDY GOVERNMENT SAVE MEEEEEEE
>T. Gets mad when his prompt AI artwork gets called out as fake and rages when hes called not a real artist by that arthoe he was trying to impress
Kek
if you trace over AI art, would it truly be plagiarism? could AIgays even sue if they wanted to?
Don't feed the moronic spammer.
Report the thread like you would report Twitter screencap threads and move on.
kys
oh, you're mad
>Voiceovers are art.
What a huge homosexual you are stay poor homosexual A.i is going to take your place now frick off to pozzux mods forums to whine about and try to get mods with A.i voice overs banned homosexual.
>if not, you don't get it
but I do get it. AI can be hard to wrangle sometimes, but not as hard as people.
Sure it's VIDEO GAMES in here.
Dave really knows his shit
>Twitter screencap
Go back.
>stolen
Nothing's been stolen. Your art is still there. Again, how is AI art referencing human art and producing an image based on what it referenced different from a human doing the same?
The human know what he's doing, how and why.
so is the problem that it happens to fast or that he won't have a job?
AI is a pretty strong tool to empower shitposters and schizos like cris
You are a coping pajeet.
>le ai games will be good because.......
>BECAUSE IT HECKIN WILL BE OK!!!!?!?
Standards of Ganker are in the crypt right now
>le AI is bad because...
>IT JUST IS OKAY?!?!?!?!
Okay, let's imply AI art is good.
Where's your game? This is a thread about game engines after all.
These threads are always funny because theres always that one anon spamming his shitty generations thinking their some kind of "gotcha"
Bold of you assuming it's more than one anon spamming from PC and mobile.
Catbox?
>the company that will do everything that is necessary for market dominance will end up dominating the market
gee, what an original thought, who would have guessed
I am so looking forward to 2040 when factory porn is an actual reality and people look back at the story after being exposed to the FULL-SENSE INFANT CRYSTAL SHARD DEMON SEX SIMULATOR (PAIN RECEPTORS UNLOCKED) of the year and chuckle at the idea that people were shitting themselves over just video lol.
All I'll probably ever want from vr AI porn or whatever is fricking an anime girl and feeling it and I'll be set for life tbh.
Finally a realistic take.
Unreal's only competition has ever been developers making their own engine for their game. Unreal has never been competing with unity because unity has never been a viable option.
AI creates only nonsense that resembles something a human might make, and the time spent babysitting it to try to make something vaguely human would be better spent just doing it yourself.
AIgays can talk about potential until they're blue in the face, but you are not creators and you will never make anything.
Post your creations. It better be better than this if you want credability.
Yet again an AIgay defaults to melting nonsense that looks impressive to them because they don't know any better.
>Unity has already killed itself.
Qrd?
Really because Starfield is an AI game and it's an absolute fricking joke anon
Once again the seething artcuck doesn't post anything because he knows it's inferior to gigachad AI generations.
>here's a tool
>tool good
>wrong! tool bad
It is a bad tool because it can't be used like a tool.
It's a great toy though, which is why all these kiddies that don't create anything love it.
Professional artists are losing work to a toy? Damn.
Can it do extra /d/egenerate stuff reliably yet?
Check the red boards
>can AI do [x] reliably
No, sorry. Here, have something that kind of resembles [x].
lmao
Keep telling yourself that, Raj.
Two more weeks, right?
A lot of people have lost work, Time just put out a top 100 AI influencers list and a lot of the people were artists talking about that. And here's a paper about it.
https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3600211.3604681
https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/
You wouldn't know about this because you don't work or keep up with news lmao.
Sure thing, pajeet.
>yeah make me a catgirl with one arm, tentacle hands, and a tail hanging from the cieling
moronic thirdie.
Still waiting to see your superior tastes.
>yeah bro gimme a xenomorph, but their heads tapir off into the distance and their fingers become chess(?) pieces
I can appreciate a great pair of breasts, but why do these AI posts in these threads always leave in blatantly obvious mistakes? I don't get it, I've seen it said countless times that AI art will raise the bar overall, so why do people parade the ones where basic fricking mistakes?
it's just a tech demo
Remove rtx from AI pictures
If AI were as good as they pretend it is, AI shills wouldn't have to work so hard to try to prove it.
They don't have to do that. You really think crying on Ganker and twitter about how much you hate art is changing reality?
Curious what you think your post implies.
On the contrary, AI needs defenders because anti-AIs are so frothing and unhinged and intellectually dishonest in their crusade to strike down AI.
>AI needs defenders
And there you have it.
>what's a sternum?
>gee bill, your mom lets you have 2 noses?
>art must not be stylized
>art must not have mistakes
You must be a great artist, can I see your work?
>art must not be stylized
2 noses is not a style
>art must not have mistakes
There's a difference between an arm that doesn't quite bend the right way, or something wrong with curves, and blatantly obvious shit like 2 fricking noses.
>You must be a great artist, can I see your work?
homie look in a fricking mirror, since when do you have 2 noses?
>stylized
KEK
AI gays have truly come full circle.
Are drawless virgins still mad at DrawGODS?
/ic/ was mean to me so I'll show them... I'll show them all!
don't forget the double jaw
>300 comments
>not even 50 ips
pajeets love it when the jannies sleep
>fully, automating coding, programming, and even some artistic aspects
>cant write 3 lines of code that were massively pasted on the internet without syntax error
>cant follow through a logic of a simple sentence
>every new ML model iteration requires exponentially more resources while giving less and less benefit
>is expected to automatically make games
Do ai shills really
>3 lines of code that were massively pasted on the internet
This brings up an important point: AI generation is not the path forward for art/coding/whatever, sharing ideas is.
And by the way, AI could be useful as an educational tool for searching and and categorizing resources, but AI generation is largely useless.
If there's one good thing about AI, it convinced me not to bother learning traditional art. There's just no point. Self-improvement and Loomis are just a luddite memes at this point
Well you just convinced yourself, my dude. AI is shit at drawing.
Post your art then.
Your traditional art wouldn't have anything to express either way
Isn't the CEO of Stability a pajeet?
sure it will, rajesh
we live in crazy times
People hate emerging tech they have no control over. Their thoughts and opinions on the subject do not matter and are not considered by those with the power to control it.
Eventually future wars will start and end over this but they'd hardly be considered such as by that point; conflicts would be over within the day.
sure thing, raheed
AI will never draw hands
Were those fricked-up-looking hands supposed to prove me wrong? Even with most of the fingers not visible, I can still tell an AI did it.
at first i was kinda afraid of AI taking my place as an artist,
but all the AI pics look like the same shit since it seems we reach the roof already
this is what we call literal delusion
Artists need to stop holding the tech back and realize that they can use the AI too. It's not like it's mutually exclusive. That said - you can actually make different types of art. It's just most of the stuff you see is made with an out-of-the-box AI. You can customize it and ask for very specific things that you can't tell are AI made.
It'd just be nice if people could see it as the tool it's meant to be. I feel like this is probably the whole horse carriage vs automobile thing all over again.
Oh hey I remember that scp, despite it's somewhat silly premise and name actually pretty scary.
Reminds me of when that place wasn't shit
those are proof it's improved since last year, a lot
AI games will suck ass, mark my words
AI games will be awesome, mark my words