crack, but they're practically smoking it now. All the water's evaporated from their overdone pots, and their profitability went out with the Steam. These guys don't learn, they're going to create another frankenstein's monster made of poo-bits from literal who studios just like with Shitfield
This actually means we're getting more realistic npcs that will behave more like real people, you can talk to them and they'll have coherent unscripted dialogue with you and other NPCs. You'll also be able to make them perform ingame actions by talking and doing things to them because they have some sense of awareness of what is going on.
>This actually means we're getting more realistic NPCs that will behave more like real people, you can talk to them and they'll have coherent unscripted dialogue with you and other NPCs.
No it doesn't LMAO.
It means you're getting the bare minimum of AI generated slop that will look/sound generic and mediocre, and you'll just have to cope with it.
None of these developers are going to use AI for anything good, they are going to be using it purely to cut costs and because they're lazy.
AI NPCs are already a thing, there are even Skyrim mods that let you talk to your followers. Microsoft is a big company in AI and they will definitely do something revolutionary for the biggest RPG franchise in the world.
>AI NPCs are already a thing, there are even Skyrim mods that let you talk to your followers.
I've seen mods that use AI voices but the kind of real-time dialogue generation you're talking about is not a thing yet, and might not ever be (at least not in any way that's actually good).
>Microsoft is a big company in AI and they will definitely do something revolutionary for the biggest RPG franchise in the world.
No, they'll probably just make the same games except instead of hiring actual voice actors, artists, world designers etc they'll just generate everything using Bing AI and it will be generic and shit.
The AI NPC thing that allows you to talk to your follower has tons of akward pauses between dialogue. Those Skyrim AI videos are just edited to make it seems like they aren't there.
Also, running a local AI model is extremely GPU intensive.
It's a proof of concept, TESVI is years away. If you don't think we're eventually getting AI powered games then you're delusional.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, good boy. You will play always online Microsoft slop and you will enjoy it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>j-just two more weeks!
The most obnoxious part of AI shills is the same thing as VR shills: the benefit of being able to delay judgement for moronation. You have the ability to keep saying, "D-don't worry, the technology is right around the corner!" every fricking year until it finally gets to a point you feel like it's acceptable, even though that won't be for literal decades from now.
5 months ago
Anonymous
To be fair, tes6 is probably a decade away
5 months ago
Anonymous
>The most obnoxious part of AI shills is the same thing as VR shills
No, the most obnoxious thing is how they always lie. They're a lot like leftists in that regard.
AI shills will say "why do you care about AI replacing menial tasks like creating textures? there will still be human programmers!" (see
Creating textures etc is literally just busywork. Having it generated by ai wont affect the quality of the game.
AI will do what the games already had, it just leaves more time for the developers to focus on important stuff.
Now, instead of a dev creating NPCs with AI packages to do mundane shit no one cares about, the AI will do all that instead.
) but then in the next breath they will openly say that they want 100% AI generated games and will call you a "luddite" if you say you don't like that.
These people are just evil, misanthropic, scum who want every single human to be replaced with a robot, they actively cheer on the idea of the human race becoming slaves to AI. It's genuine mental illness on their part.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'd like nothing more than to stop the development of AI but we're past the point of no return, it can't be stopped. The only thing we can do now is to figure out how to live with it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Don't care, moron.
I'm never going to use AI.
I'm never going to consume AI generated slop.
I'm never going to pay money for anything which AI has been involved in creating.
I'm just not going to do it, and you cannot make me.
5 months ago
Anonymous
So you'll be living in a tent in the woods, that's fine too.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>If you refuse to use AI we're going to evict you from your house!
Kek, ok schizo.
5 months ago
Anonymous
AI will be involved in building the house you live in or some appliance you need to survive so you might as well live in the woods.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>AI will be involved in building the house you live in
Schizo moment.
5 months ago
Anonymous
futurologist gays like you never get anything right. where's my fricking flying car?
5 months ago
Anonymous
On your smartphone
5 months ago
Anonymous
And then we get another fricked update where your "smart" oven will think it's a microwave.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>we're past the point of no return
AI history is history of booms and busts, and this could be just another cycle
5 months ago
Anonymous
The only evil one here is you. We want A.I TO free humans, we are already enslaved by people like you
You fear losing your power
5 months ago
Anonymous
>sees AI take millions of people's jobs >this is freedom!
lol
>Also, running a local AI model is extremely GPU intensive.
Sounds like a way for them to sell cloud integration. The NPCs will use AI to respond but only if you play online with a legal copy of the game and your interactions will be recorded.
5 months ago
Anonymous
chudGPT costs hundreds of millions of dollars in electricity DAILY
If they're doing some sort of online AI it will be impossible to buy for the non-AIgay
Specially Xboxgays, who're mostly third worlders who depend of the gamepass
5 months ago
Anonymous
Don't worry, in the 6 years it takes for TES6 to come out they'll hike the price of GP up a few times.
In an ideal scenario it'd mean that, but the AI they'd use would be heavily neutered. Like how when you use the Bing AI generation it adds ghost prompts at the end to diversify your picture. Microsoft saw what gamers did with Tay, they're not going to let you make the AI do and say wild shit.
As someone who actually dicks around with text generation, you're either getting real schizo hours or absurd system requirements, if you want text generation stuck into the game in addition to everything else.
The AI models are becoming more compact and efficient by the day, at first they'll probably be streamed from cloud services but they'll eventually be able to run locally. Future computers will have integrated AI that interfaces with your games, programs, everything you do. It's only logical.
>Future computers will have integrated AI that interfaces with your games, programs, everything you do.
Sounds like some dystopian shit. Won't be buying.
>at first they'll probably be streamed from cloud services but they'll eventually be able to run locally.
Why in fricking hell would I ever want to play TES always online? >Future computers will have integrated AI that interfaces with your games, programs, everything you do.
So do you have any sort of ETA or we're just talking into the air like usual?
>As someone who actually dicks around with text generation
which model do you use, anon? I only have an 8GB card so I'm limited to 13B models, which are pretty damn stupid compared to uncensored GPT-4
I hear 70B is a massive improvement by comparison, but I don't have the money for 2 3090s
Goliath's pretty nice, but it goes schizo a little too often for me. I'm currently playing around with Xwin and Noromaid, but I genuinely go back to Toppy-M a number of times as well, simply because I get more unexpectedly amusing and creative responses. You get so used to flowery bullshit in some that certain models just cutting to the chase and being blunt honestly feels like fresh air.
>You get so used to flowery bullshit in some that certain models just cutting to the chase and being blunt honestly feels like fresh air.
that's true, and that's why I never liked 3.5 turbo very much
5 months ago
Anonymous
Completely agreed on that, even before the censorship it was just tiresome
>absurd system requirements, if you want text generation stuck into the game in addition to everything else.
I think devs will only use AI to create the game. It doesn't need to run while playing, the AI's work has been done already.
This actually means we're getting more realistic NPCs that will behave more like real people, you can talk to them and they'll have coherent unscripted dialogue with you and other NPCs. You'll also be able to make them perform ingame actions by talking and doing things to them because they have some sense of awareness of what is going on.
thinks though, he and his ilk are convinced we'll have on-the-fly text generation and I'm willing to bet they'll want it with plenty of context and background knowledge.
You are the tech illiterate tranBlack person, AI is far away from intelligence and before the hype happened it was just called learning algorithm it's the same fricking thing but now ex machina to bait investors hahaha
Starfield has 12 unique outposts throughout the universe, no matter how many planets you may visit you will always end up encountering the same buildings with the same layout and arrangement of enemies, furniture, items, loot and npcs. Procedural generation my ass
People used to shit on Morrowind for having all NPCs just be walking encyclopedias for the topics you could ask them about, or on Oblivion because beggars would suddenly switch to having eloquent, knowledgeable speech because they shared the same Rumors mechanics as regular citizens. Now imagine a future where every NPC is running the same AI chatbot and all this shit happens again because Bethesda clearly isn't going to limit what dialogue you get from certain types of characters. No more Khajiit with third-person speech. No more Nord colloquialisms. You'll talk to a mudcrab and it'll literally just be Wes Johnson regurgitating what he knows about high elves.
>AI will do what the games already had, it just leaves more time for the developers to focus on important stuff.
No they'll just replace more and more of every game with AIslop until there's barely any human input whatsoever.
The sole argument for using AI in games is "it's easier and cheaper" so why do you think they'd stop at replacing voice actors/artists? They will eventually replace programmers instead. Video games in the future will just be designed by a few corporate suits commanding a team of pajeets to use AI generators to shit out the cheapest games possible.
I don't care. I'm willing to wait longer for games if that means they are actually made with a personal touch by humans, rather than being generic slop shit out by an AI generator.
I have literally zero desire to consume any AI-generated content. If this is the direction the industry is going, then I will just have to restrict myself to playing games that were released pre-2022 when generative AI wasn't really a thing.
Train the AI off the pre-Emil games and at the very least the story and supplementary lore will be decent. If Pagliarulo’s involved in any capacity it will be guaranteed shit.
AI generation is modern tech's excuse to hire fewer people and put less effort. We know it will be the bad kind of AI generation with no quality control, resulting in utter garbage uninspired gameplay
>modern tech's excuse to hire fewer people
Good, we need to go back to smaller dev teams. Morrowind and other classics were made by handfuls of non-troony people.
I'd rather have 600 variations of an AI-generated Dwemer ruin than 50 Deserted UC Listening posts, 50 Abandoned Mines, 50 Abandoned Shaybridge Chemical Plants and so on.
>When your parents ban you from using ChatGPT to cheat on your homework, so you ask your TESVI NPC companions to do your homework for you instead
The future is going to be ridiculous
AI generation has a place in games, it just can't be entirely relied upon for everything.
For example, radiant quests suck ass and AI could probably generate better ones.
>AI characters, storylines, and more
As if these things weren't already bad enough... They are just replacing Character/Story writers with Character/Story writers who have to babysit the AI to make sure nothing obscene gets through and it's up to Diversity and Inclusion standards.
i really hope there's no claim of "our biggest game yet!" when they've just proved with flopfied that nobody wants that, especially when it's filled with AI/procgen slop.
>i really hope there's no claim of "our biggest game yet!"
They've been claiming that since fallout 3, at least they stopped lying about having 200 different endings like they did with that game.
bethesda must deeply despise the games they make, because their approach to game design appears to be "why can't somebody else do it". radiant quests, outposts, the entirety of starfield, and now ai. innovative ways of not doing anything but still making money like you did.
AI will be a lot funnier than homosexual American writers. It will be like playing Leisure Suit Larry except this time when you tell a random NPC to suck you rick they can actually respond
Don’t these homies literally already have dall-e AI and basically the entirety of openai? What’s ms cooking
crack, but they're practically smoking it now. All the water's evaporated from their overdone pots, and their profitability went out with the Steam. These guys don't learn, they're going to create another frankenstein's monster made of poo-bits from literal who studios just like with Shitfield
Every Bethesda game used procedural generation moron, how were the maps for Daggerfall and Starfield made?
>But they're calling it artificial intelligence now
Same thing moron
>Daggerfall and Starfield
These are their most dogshit games
This actually means we're getting more realistic npcs that will behave more like real people, you can talk to them and they'll have coherent unscripted dialogue with you and other NPCs. You'll also be able to make them perform ingame actions by talking and doing things to them because they have some sense of awareness of what is going on.
>This actually means we're getting more realistic NPCs that will behave more like real people, you can talk to them and they'll have coherent unscripted dialogue with you and other NPCs.
No it doesn't LMAO.
It means you're getting the bare minimum of AI generated slop that will look/sound generic and mediocre, and you'll just have to cope with it.
None of these developers are going to use AI for anything good, they are going to be using it purely to cut costs and because they're lazy.
AI NPCs are already a thing, there are even Skyrim mods that let you talk to your followers. Microsoft is a big company in AI and they will definitely do something revolutionary for the biggest RPG franchise in the world.
>AI NPCs are already a thing, there are even Skyrim mods that let you talk to your followers.
I've seen mods that use AI voices but the kind of real-time dialogue generation you're talking about is not a thing yet, and might not ever be (at least not in any way that's actually good).
>Microsoft is a big company in AI and they will definitely do something revolutionary for the biggest RPG franchise in the world.
No, they'll probably just make the same games except instead of hiring actual voice actors, artists, world designers etc they'll just generate everything using Bing AI and it will be generic and shit.
>the kind of real-time dialogue generation you're talking about is not a thing yet
Yes it is, haven't you seen Herika?
The AI NPC thing that allows you to talk to your follower has tons of akward pauses between dialogue. Those Skyrim AI videos are just edited to make it seems like they aren't there.
Also, running a local AI model is extremely GPU intensive.
It's a proof of concept, TESVI is years away. If you don't think we're eventually getting AI powered games then you're delusional.
Yes, good boy. You will play always online Microsoft slop and you will enjoy it.
>j-just two more weeks!
The most obnoxious part of AI shills is the same thing as VR shills: the benefit of being able to delay judgement for moronation. You have the ability to keep saying, "D-don't worry, the technology is right around the corner!" every fricking year until it finally gets to a point you feel like it's acceptable, even though that won't be for literal decades from now.
To be fair, tes6 is probably a decade away
>The most obnoxious part of AI shills is the same thing as VR shills
No, the most obnoxious thing is how they always lie. They're a lot like leftists in that regard.
AI shills will say "why do you care about AI replacing menial tasks like creating textures? there will still be human programmers!" (see
) but then in the next breath they will openly say that they want 100% AI generated games and will call you a "luddite" if you say you don't like that.
These people are just evil, misanthropic, scum who want every single human to be replaced with a robot, they actively cheer on the idea of the human race becoming slaves to AI. It's genuine mental illness on their part.
I'd like nothing more than to stop the development of AI but we're past the point of no return, it can't be stopped. The only thing we can do now is to figure out how to live with it.
Don't care, moron.
I'm never going to use AI.
I'm never going to consume AI generated slop.
I'm never going to pay money for anything which AI has been involved in creating.
I'm just not going to do it, and you cannot make me.
So you'll be living in a tent in the woods, that's fine too.
>If you refuse to use AI we're going to evict you from your house!
Kek, ok schizo.
AI will be involved in building the house you live in or some appliance you need to survive so you might as well live in the woods.
>AI will be involved in building the house you live in
Schizo moment.
futurologist gays like you never get anything right. where's my fricking flying car?
On your smartphone
And then we get another fricked update where your "smart" oven will think it's a microwave.
>we're past the point of no return
AI history is history of booms and busts, and this could be just another cycle
The only evil one here is you. We want A.I TO free humans, we are already enslaved by people like you
You fear losing your power
>sees AI take millions of people's jobs
>this is freedom!
lol
>Also, running a local AI model is extremely GPU intensive.
Sounds like a way for them to sell cloud integration. The NPCs will use AI to respond but only if you play online with a legal copy of the game and your interactions will be recorded.
chudGPT costs hundreds of millions of dollars in electricity DAILY
If they're doing some sort of online AI it will be impossible to buy for the non-AIgay
Specially Xboxgays, who're mostly third worlders who depend of the gamepass
Don't worry, in the 6 years it takes for TES6 to come out they'll hike the price of GP up a few times.
Good morning sir
In an ideal scenario it'd mean that, but the AI they'd use would be heavily neutered. Like how when you use the Bing AI generation it adds ghost prompts at the end to diversify your picture. Microsoft saw what gamers did with Tay, they're not going to let you make the AI do and say wild shit.
As someone who actually dicks around with text generation, you're either getting real schizo hours or absurd system requirements, if you want text generation stuck into the game in addition to everything else.
They are Indian, anon. They are just moronic
The AI models are becoming more compact and efficient by the day, at first they'll probably be streamed from cloud services but they'll eventually be able to run locally. Future computers will have integrated AI that interfaces with your games, programs, everything you do. It's only logical.
The only logical thing that can be gleamed from your post is that your mother dropped you on your head as a baby
It seems that you were in fact born yesterday.
>Future computers will have integrated AI that interfaces with your games, programs, everything you do.
Sounds like some dystopian shit. Won't be buying.
yeah and we'll all be watching movies and playing games in VR as well lmao
I'm already doing that.
enjoy brain cancer
>we can just keep shrinking
why do idiots think transistors can be used as analogy for literally every piece of tech ever created
>wasting your time arguing with Ganker morons of all people
>at first they'll probably be streamed from cloud services but they'll eventually be able to run locally.
Why in fricking hell would I ever want to play TES always online?
>Future computers will have integrated AI that interfaces with your games, programs, everything you do.
So do you have any sort of ETA or we're just talking into the air like usual?
It probably wouldn't be always online, you'd just plug in the internet if you don't want your NPCs to behave like they do in Oblivion.
>if you don't want your NPCs to behave like they do in Oblivion.
Why would I ever not want that?
>As someone who actually dicks around with text generation
which model do you use, anon? I only have an 8GB card so I'm limited to 13B models, which are pretty damn stupid compared to uncensored GPT-4
I hear 70B is a massive improvement by comparison, but I don't have the money for 2 3090s
Goliath's pretty nice, but it goes schizo a little too often for me. I'm currently playing around with Xwin and Noromaid, but I genuinely go back to Toppy-M a number of times as well, simply because I get more unexpectedly amusing and creative responses. You get so used to flowery bullshit in some that certain models just cutting to the chase and being blunt honestly feels like fresh air.
>You get so used to flowery bullshit in some that certain models just cutting to the chase and being blunt honestly feels like fresh air.
that's true, and that's why I never liked 3.5 turbo very much
Completely agreed on that, even before the censorship it was just tiresome
>absurd system requirements, if you want text generation stuck into the game in addition to everything else.
I think devs will only use AI to create the game. It doesn't need to run while playing, the AI's work has been done already.
That's not what
thinks though, he and his ilk are convinced we'll have on-the-fly text generation and I'm willing to bet they'll want it with plenty of context and background knowledge.
2more weeks, moron
Tech illiterate troony, fricking have a nice day already, waste of space.
You are the tech illiterate tranBlack person, AI is far away from intelligence and before the hype happened it was just called learning algorithm it's the same fricking thing but now ex machina to bait investors hahaha
Starfield has 12 unique outposts throughout the universe, no matter how many planets you may visit you will always end up encountering the same buildings with the same layout and arrangement of enemies, furniture, items, loot and npcs. Procedural generation my ass
pretty much
>AI is......LEL BAD
yeh
we're reaching slop levels that shouldn't even be possible
why the frick would you be excited for it to begin with? jesus fricking christ how many times do we have to go through this song and dance
YOU SHOULD BE SCARED IF THEY USE AI GENERATED MAP, CHARACTERS AND VOICES GENERATED BY AI DOESN'T MATTER.
Creating textures etc is literally just busywork. Having it generated by ai wont affect the quality of the game.
>i want 6 figure salary while doing nothing
People used to shit on Morrowind for having all NPCs just be walking encyclopedias for the topics you could ask them about, or on Oblivion because beggars would suddenly switch to having eloquent, knowledgeable speech because they shared the same Rumors mechanics as regular citizens. Now imagine a future where every NPC is running the same AI chatbot and all this shit happens again because Bethesda clearly isn't going to limit what dialogue you get from certain types of characters. No more Khajiit with third-person speech. No more Nord colloquialisms. You'll talk to a mudcrab and it'll literally just be Wes Johnson regurgitating what he knows about high elves.
i am not excited for most western games or aaa games
AI will do what the games already had, it just leaves more time for the developers to focus on important stuff.
Now, instead of a dev creating NPCs with AI packages to do mundane shit no one cares about, the AI will do all that instead.
>AI will do what the games already had, it just leaves more time for the developers to focus on important stuff.
No they'll just replace more and more of every game with AIslop until there's barely any human input whatsoever.
The sole argument for using AI in games is "it's easier and cheaper" so why do you think they'd stop at replacing voice actors/artists? They will eventually replace programmers instead. Video games in the future will just be designed by a few corporate suits commanding a team of pajeets to use AI generators to shit out the cheapest games possible.
It's faster. What's your solution to massive dev teams working on a single game for fricking 5 years or more?
I don't care. I'm willing to wait longer for games if that means they are actually made with a personal touch by humans, rather than being generic slop shit out by an AI generator.
I have literally zero desire to consume any AI-generated content. If this is the direction the industry is going, then I will just have to restrict myself to playing games that were released pre-2022 when generative AI wasn't really a thing.
>will just have to restrict myself to playing games that were released pre-2022 when generative AI wasn't really a thing.
Yeah you can do that
Literally cannot be worse than modern Bethesda writing
how does that make it better or how is that supposed to make anyone feel better about TESVI?
Who said it was supposed to?
The less Emil has to do with anything the higher the game's quality will be
Train the AI off the pre-Emil games and at the very least the story and supplementary lore will be decent. If Pagliarulo’s involved in any capacity it will be guaranteed shit.
AI generation is modern tech's excuse to hire fewer people and put less effort. We know it will be the bad kind of AI generation with no quality control, resulting in utter garbage uninspired gameplay
>modern tech's excuse to hire fewer people
Good, we need to go back to smaller dev teams. Morrowind and other classics were made by handfuls of non-troony people.
To them fewer people means hiring a few pajeet coders, not a few competent programmers.
To whom? There will also be competent devs using AI. Even indie devs can use it to their advantage to make more impressive games.
The team behind No Man's Sky apparently has a small dev team working on a promising game. I'm sure AI could help them out.
Yes brother I agree. Ai is so powerful, it could even change the power of nations. In a few years, india will be the ai capital of the world
>There will also be competent devs using AI
Not betheshit
Literally the only place where i activeley want Ai Is in RPGs.
So you know what? Yeah, they better do that
>we want less slop and more quality games
>got it, more slop incoming
god, I love game companies
>I'm not excited for it anymore.
I haven't been excited for anything Bethesda after Fallout 4.
You thought games were soulless now?
I'm praying this doesn't somehow avoid flopping hard. I want Bethesda to have to actually try again.
one of the Starfield's weakest point is procedurally generated slop. they are doubling down on it, so no, they didn't learn anything
as long as it stops voice actors from getting paid, I'm all for AI
why do you give a frick, it's not your money?
I'd rather have 600 variations of an AI-generated Dwemer ruin than 50 Deserted UC Listening posts, 50 Abandoned Mines, 50 Abandoned Shaybridge Chemical Plants and so on.
>When your parents ban you from using ChatGPT to cheat on your homework, so you ask your TESVI NPC companions to do your homework for you instead
The future is going to be ridiculous
AI generation has a place in games, it just can't be entirely relied upon for everything.
For example, radiant quests suck ass and AI could probably generate better ones.
>redguard land
>AI slop
I think I'll stick with Skyrim, thanks
Please PLEASE explain to me how AI generated quests could be worse than Skyrim's endless "Go kill a random bandit" type quests.
If only you knew how bad things really are.
https://twitter.com/fireh9lly/status/1728934106304774289
I love the future.
Because the AI programs that big corporations are using all think like pic related.
>AI characters, storylines, and more
As if these things weren't already bad enough... They are just replacing Character/Story writers with Character/Story writers who have to babysit the AI to make sure nothing obscene gets through and it's up to Diversity and Inclusion standards.
the AI chatbot thing in skyrim was fun to mess around with. but if they implement that officially then you know its going to be censored heavily.
>AI generated script
Can only be an improvement over the usual slop
i really hope there's no claim of "our biggest game yet!" when they've just proved with flopfied that nobody wants that, especially when it's filled with AI/procgen slop.
>i really hope there's no claim of "our biggest game yet!"
They've been claiming that since fallout 3, at least they stopped lying about having 200 different endings like they did with that game.
>anymore
You were excited after fallout 4, 76 & starfield but this is what broke the camels back?
This has to be a joke.
bethesda must deeply despise the games they make, because their approach to game design appears to be "why can't somebody else do it". radiant quests, outposts, the entirety of starfield, and now ai. innovative ways of not doing anything but still making money like you did.
Bethesda was dead a long time ago anyway. Nothing of value was lost.
Already been done
Can't be worse than Skyrim and F4's "Go to [location] and retrieve [item]/kill boss next to the shortcut back to the entrance"
I'd personally prefer they got rid of radiant quests altogether. I'm in favor of less, but more interesting and involving quests.
AI will be a lot funnier than homosexual American writers. It will be like playing Leisure Suit Larry except this time when you tell a random NPC to suck you rick they can actually respond