>the guy who "wrote" the Blood Bowl reboot in 2016 was on £22k a year
>Peachy from Warhammer TV was on £19k a year
WTF, you could literally make more money working in a supermarket. I get working somewhere out of passion but that's scandalous.
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A store manager gets like 26k. It'd be funny if it weren't so sad.
And they wonder why people leave once they get some level of recognition.
lol you can get like 50-60k a year for being a manager at a Wetherspoons.
Glassdoor says £40k, £26k is probably an old number or after all taxes and pension contribution or something.
£40k is about what you make running a Tesco Express.
>manage a store
>make 26k
>write a few lines of code and have the right pronouns
>make 260k
WHY DOES NO ONE WANT TO WORK ANYMORE
>complaining about rainbow people with posting sexy, breedable lizard femboy
get out of that closet right now
Hey, narcissist freak, nothing is about you and you will always just be a weird unfrickable loser.
this website is 18+ kid. Try paying your taxes before attempting to troll a homosexual
>breedable
That's not how biology works please stop using this term. Two men cannot breed
shut up and put on the kneesocks so that I can breed your ass, homosexual
Oh wow looks like I'm pregnant.
With AIDS.
We can try :3
Jesus I work part time and make more than that. I live in Sydney which is insanely expensive though. My house makes more money for existing than I do.
In my workplace they made shifts that are
>social media monitoring
from home. You work 3-4 hours at $45 AUD an hour refreshing a fricking social media program. Usually you don't even have to respond to anyone or do like one copy paste response a shift. SOMEHOW all those shifts when to the alphabet people who work at my job.
>social media work goes to people who don't feel the compulsion to spam Black person homosexual all day
gee willikers, I sure wonder why!
I'd been doing the social media monitoring for years longer than them and I wasn't even contacted. They HATE straight white men at my work because it's WOKE as frick. I'm probably going to get a new job on Monday and I plan to shit on all their desks before I leave.
my dad has been working at Games Workshop for years, and he says that they hate cis white men here so much. That's why he didn't get a raise, and why the rainbow colored alphabet cereal men are pushing for more females knights in Bretonnia. So he's gonna quit next month, and he'll piss on all of their tables on the way out!
>Verification not required.
>we're coming for your kids but also you're just tilting at windmills
Because you can't help yourselves you always have to pick both.
It was not an unrealistic expectation that tabletop wargames and their largely male audience would baulk at the cackhanded insertion of the ESG stimulator into the genre.
Maybe you could focus on erudition and storytelling.
>TeH ArE CuMmINg In YoUr KiDs!
And D&D turned them all into demon worshippers since the 80's, right? People like you are absolute morons, jesus
Actually there was a basis for the Satanic Panic, given that cults have operated in the USA for a long time. David Berkowitz was involved in cult activities. I know Americans who played Dnd in LA circa the 1980s and they had to filter player groups who seemed to extrapolate some ritualistic significance from roleplaying. The gentleman in question was a PI who fought child traffickers so you're shit out of luck in his case.
Moral panics start somewhere.
Also the LGBT choir member who sang that also wrote a play idealising Bacha Bazi or Afghan pederasty. You're welcome.
Buddy, friend, pal.
The Satanic Panic was a scam designed to sell books and talk show tours for the people claiming it. The targets were scapegoats being used to make money for a small set of individuals riding the hype of the New Evangelical Movement of the 80s onwards. You got scammed.
>You work 3-4 hours at $45 AUD an hour refreshing a fricking social media program.
Why the frick would you even want to do that? Sounds like a job for literal brain dead morons.
But anon, he IS a braindead moron
are they in the room with you right now?
Absolutely fricking no one is making 250k a year for writing a few lines of code and using gay pronouns, unless they're running their own company! Not in the UK at least. Hell, GP doctors are "only" on 120k+ at most.
The UK average for 2023 was about 28k, looking at the guy who did the reboot in '16 that would have been an ok salary, peachy left well after that and was absolutely getting screwed on 19k
do you think because you know somebody's name they're worth more money doing an entry level job, starfricker
That's a shit take. A game designer for the biggest wargame company should earn above minimum wage.
the miniatures makes money; people buy those regardless of playing.
anyone can write game rules
the models make money, the game does not.
>anyone can write game rules
Wheres your game then
Have you seen how bad the rules for 40k are though?
Why does GGw pretty consistently make awesome specialist games and then drop them while fricking the shit out of their main games and their customers?
It is a mystery
The "awesome" specialist games you are thinking of were made back when 40K and Fantasy were in what people nowadays call "best" editions. Meaning GW was in a much better place in general. The only decent specialist or boxed game they've made in the last 10-15 years is Titanicus. And technically even that was ForgeWorld, not GW.
KT21 and Warcry are great games too. Personally, I like Underworlds, but I've not gone very deep into it.
maybe they could get better rules by paying more for competent rules writers
Their cad people are paid shit as well- they get like 30k for 3d modeling, a job that pays 60k everywhere else. And it's fricking easier to do everywhere else I might add, since it's a dozen times easier to draft parts at your average machine shop than it is to make models.
>there's a good chance I'm getting paid more than GW sculptor in my bottom-rung technician job
What an odd feeling.
That's a dumb take, the game drives miniature sales
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
low IQ take
>anyone can write game rules
10th ed 40k was apparently written by typewriter monkeys.
Aren't those normal UK salaries?
For entry level jobs yes, but you should be expecting 30k minimum for a proper desk role.
A store manager at like tesco gets around 40k a year.
Plus you get free food all the time. By comparison, Games Workshop won't even let you chew on the plastic.
Yes without the £2.5k bonus they got at Christmas there and don’t count. Its a great employer by UK standards.
>Its a great employer by UK standards.
Wrong
In 2008.
22k was a bad salary when they were paying me it in 2012.
25k is now considered low in office and STEM roles. You'd want 30k for full time work to pay for rent or a mortgage, afford a car and all outgoings associated and be able to comfortable pay for food giving some room for savings. Basic adult stuff.
I was being paid 33k in 2020 and then I left to run my own business.
>You'd want 30k for full time work to pay for rent or a mortgage, afford a car and all outgoings
Maybe with two incomes. Otherwise you will never be able to save enough to get that deposit on the mortgage.
I started my career earning 33k + 10% bonus in London in 2012 and I thought it was mediocre at the time. I get that cost of living is lower elsewhere but 20k nowadays is atrocious.
Yeah for a fricking assistant manager at MacDonalds.
>”great” britain is poor
shocker
where does all the money go then?
Keeping Louise's mouth shut.
Sounds sinister. I got the impression they were effectively bullying and gaslighting her to do more and more work while keeping her in place by denigrating her ability and selling it as “oh well it’s a dream job so you should put up with these shitty conditions”. Sadly a lot of industries thrive on that sort of management, absolute psychos in power.
She was probably a Millennial Woman who cries at her desk a lot and equated being asked out with being fisted by robots with barbed wire gauntlets. Good painter tho
>She was probably a Millennial Woman who cries at her desk a lot
We're human beings who have emotions. We're not going to pretend to be emotionless robots or LARP out some 1950's Pleasantville fantasy for dying Boomers anymore.
>equated being asked out with being fisted by robots with barbed wire gauntlets
She was at work to work, not be hit on. I've already gotten one incel fired for hitting on me as work and I hope she has too.
We should have laws against hitting on people outside of dating apps and singles places like bars.
I sure love going to work and handling the majority of tasks because the younger contingent treat it like a paid daycare centre. It's just awesome how their lack of discipline means the constant problems in their life bleed into an aspect that should provide them some stability.
It isn't at all disruptive to handle people who find any sort of professional criticism so crippling they act in a manner their ancestors might reserve for the deaths of a particularly loyal train of oxen.
I especially love negotiating the minefield of psychosexual manipulative prostitutes who aggressively sexually signal me because I am fit and attempt to end my career when I reject them as though they were the ones being harrassed. In all it's just swell to let emotions dismantle the function of this enterprise where the costs will eventually be passed on to the people who keep us fed, the customer.
Is it possible that you’re not the single competent person in your life who also has women throwing themselves at you because you’re so great and fit. Maybe you have a few blind spots and a (fixable) lack of social skills and emotional intelligence, which has somehow convinced you that you’re above everyone else. Just a guess.
Or I do carry my depeartment while people with permanent hangovers bawl their eyes out at not getting a raise and turn bastardy when you are "at work to work," not validate their frenetic rutting.
If any of that is true you should quit and find a better job.
Sorry but I care too much to let them, our work is a life/death thing
All I know is Zoomers and women will always make it about them and switch off if they can't.
We had a black woman join our team of all White men programmers right out of a programming boot course. She did the bare minimum, consistently came in late, left early, and took multi-day vacations while only alerting the team at the last possible moment. At one point she told our director that she wanted to be made a front-end lead. He didn't continue to pursue the issue with her (if you want something it is on you to go after it). Then one day she went to lunch, never came back, and sent the entire team a snitty email wherein she had documented every ticket she worked on, and complained about how she was ignored for management because she was the only woman and only black on the team.
And that's why I love working in a place with lots of black coworkers. The ones who try to play the race card in an attempt to deflect their personnal shittiness are rightfully kicked out of the front door.
>I've already gotten one incel fired for hitting on me as work and I hope she has too.
>We should have laws against hitting on people outside of dating apps and singles places like bars.
bad b8
>We should have laws against hitting on people outside of dating apps and singles places like bars.
This doesn't sound psychotic at all.
I see a lot of cats in your future.
>negative mention of pleasantville
Opinion discarded.
>We're human beings who have emotions.
>She was at work to work, not be hit on.
nobody is at work to have feelings or a therapy session either. Do your work, earn your pay, go home.
>I've already gotten one incel fired for hitting on me as work and I hope she has too.
could have helped that guy out if the objectionable part was being an "incel". Just saying. kek
>We should have laws against hitting on people outside of dating apps and singles places like bars.
that is the end of mankind.
Bretty funny because you're a homosexual larping as a girl
>We're human beings who have emotions. We're not going to pretend to be emotionless robots
>We should have laws against hitting on people outside of dating apps and singles places like bars.
On the off chance that you really are a femanon rather than a troll, do you not see the contradiction in these positions?
There is no realistic world in which you are maximally free to express yourself in the workplace however you want regardless of how other people feel about it, but everyone else has to censor themselves to suit your preferences.
>On the off chance that you really are a femanon rather than a troll, do you not see the contradiction in these positions?
on the off chance that it's a woman...that's impossible obviously: you are asking for logic and reason.
That's what I've heard from like 90% of the people who've worked for GW in England. "Working for us is a privilege, and the money is just a bonus." Apparently the Scotland management team is not as psychotic, and America is a whole other thing.
I feel like this is every creative type industry. I once worked for a museum that had 3 part-time guards, 2 part-time receptionists, a couple interns, and a part-time curator. All millennials. But it had 5 directors, all boomoids making a middle class salary. Each had one specific niche job and failed horribly at it. One b***h was supposed to be the volunteer coordinator but never bothered calling or emailing the volunteers when an event was canceled or rescheduled.
>"Working for us is a privilege, and the money is just a bonus."
I feel like companies and rich people in general think like this. They're the dad and they're giving you an allowance out of the goodness of their hearts.
Everyone's looking for a unicorn working for their own edification. But they also wouldn't want someone who had a profitable sideline or successful spouse because they wouldn't be able to push them around. (Hence why they try to get you to sign agreements not to have side-businesses or balk because you had the luxury of taking a few months off between jobs).
It's a combination of that,
, and shit managers. There is (or was after Peachy left) a podcast called the Painting Phase that had a lot of ex-GW people come in to talk about the hobby, and a lot of talk would usually drift back to their GW experience. Usually pretty common stories where they loved the job when there wasn't much management frickery but often times everything would be handled by clueless managers with very poor results or unreasonable expectations and timelines, and any attempt to talk back or even grow a spine would be hit with that "You're being paid to make/paint/design toy soldiers, what the frick are you complaining for." Then one day they'd get fed up, leave GW, and have a successful career while GW would scramble to replace them and take away the wrong lessons, like the Only Hands bit after Duncan and Peachy left the painting tutorials.
Peachy gone solo
>Peachy gone solo
Not quite, apparently there's a law in England that states all podcasts must compromise two people: the one who people actually come to listen to, and the charmless one who always looks like a police composite sketch propped on top of a pile of unfashionable laundry
I think anyone who is clearly doing the massive work in selling a hobbyist product should get major wages, but also should be executed if they're clearly faltering without abdicating. Basically rules-royalists.
He shills the frick out of them even now, if you listen to these 3 bearded fat gays you would think no other game existed.
Because Warhammer drives the views.
Everyone says that, even if you want to focus on other stuff, you need to keep making Warhammer content. It's why their new video is Infinity vs Warhammer as if it was Infinity alone it would make nothing
You don't need to do anything if you have balls, they don't so they keep cycling back to overpriced untested nonsense and rebranded art supplies.
For UK wagies these aren't so bad. Keep in mind Americans make way more than British on average, despite the cost of living being less
In the US doctors make like $200-500k and in the UK it's like $60k
>Bullshit
I make £60k and I'm not at the top of my paygrade, doctors earn substantially more than I do
>despite the cost of living being less
lol. lmao. kek. jej.
You guys had an excuse for wallowing in your beef-comas of ignorance in prior decades, but the internet is ubiquitous now and there are countless tales online of Americans who moved abroad, took a "pay cut", pay *more* taxes, and yet still have more disposable income and purchasing power than they did in the USA, because so much of what you get "cheap" we get *free*(at the point of use) or heavily subsidized.
Sadly this doesn't apply to the united cuckdom because your rent costs are worse than in the USA.
I pay £300 a month for a house in a Black person free ancient village at the foot of a mountain with it's own river, I spend £50 a month on food that you couldn't afford even if it was available to you, I work 12 hours a week and have no money worries or commute. You're a moronic coping slave living in the hellscape you deserve
Where???? I MUST ESCAPE! What mountain?
HELP!
>beef-comas
Hilarious how jealous EuroPoors are of the conspicuous consumption of animal products, literally luxury lifestyle compared to whatever thin gruel seed-oil porridge you’re allowed to sup on Cuck Island
>In the US doctors make like $200-500k and in the UK it's like $60k
That's one specific job where the industries are entirely different. Wages are about the same for most jobs in the US vs. UK in terms of buying power. Variation only happens when the economy around that industry is significantly different, and medicine is probably the most different industry between the US/UK
Eh also engineers, government jobs and programing stuff. Wages in the UK are honestly really depressed.
>Keep in mind Americans make way more than British on average, despite the cost of living being less
Totally delusional, food and rent are literally 4x more in he US
Maybe if you're comparing LA and Durham, but if you compared London to Rawlins, Wyoming you'd find the opposite is true.
Do they get performance adjusted bonuses? GW has rapidly expanded recently, it's common in companies seeing rapid growth to freeze wages and supplement incomes with performance adjusted bonuses. That way they can avoid the liability of resigning employment contracts (including all the money beyond pay like insurance and pensions), which can cause severe problems if the company's value stagnates or depreciates, and actively curb employment (ie hiring way too many people if the company suddenly loses income).
t. business change analyst
This is a seethe at capitalism thread please take your intelligent post elsewhere.
That's barbaric, how could anybody be okay with a company being able to offload the risks of getting bigger onto the people who have something to lose instead of those who actually made the decision and reap the vast rewards?
Depending on the structure of the company, it would be a decision made by the board of directors with the consultation of investors.
Performance adjusted bonuses can actually be more profitable for employees if the company sees explosive growth and then readdressing pay structure when the growth stagnates.
Say you're on a dogshit wage like £20k pa but you get monthly/quarterly/annual performance bonuses that are a fixed percentage of profits based on your role. That could be more valuable than being on £30k if the company is growing rapidly.
Also it reduces liability for the company for as long as they're paying at least that £20k there can be no allegations of underpayment or most other fiscal employment-related risk. Low risk means low insurance premiums meaning more money to go round and a higher base profit rate, making the likelihood and value of a lucrative performance adjusted bonus much higher.
And finally the people who are making the decisions carry a massive amount of risk. The steering group have zero time off ever: if we have a critical incident I am phoning the CFO and COO and if they do not answer the phone because they're drunk and asleep on a Bahaman beach then they will be brought in front of the investor advisory committee (the banks, the private investors, the insurance underwriter, etc) and be grilled by a tribunal over why they had better things to do than their job when £MM and thousands of jobs are at stake.
In America there is a culture that is tolerant of failure: investors struggle to trust somebody who hasn't been bankrupt, because a person who has been bankrupt knows how to pull themselves out of it. It's completely different in Britain; if you've been bankrupt you're usually written off by investors, so British firms accept zero risk because the culture just doesn't afford it.
if you listen to the interviews/conversations between former staffers on their various new internet platforms it seems to be that you will not ever get a promotion or increased salary unless you apply for a new position inside the company.
Common theme seems to be that people left because of a combination of poor pay, shit middle management and cliques inside the company that are working against each other or exist completely separately and do the same job twice.
GW gets people to stay there because they exclusively hire fanboys that love their franchise and are content to be pacified with toy soldiers.
Except for the top positions, those guys have generic corpo resumes.
Fifteen years of conservative neoliberal rule has basically annihilated any semblance of fair wages or working conditions in the UK. On average people there are still better off than in the US despite making less, simply because despite the best efforts of their ruling party they still have an infinitely better social infrastructure network, but they are reaching the point where wage inequality is beyond parodic now. It should be noted that this is one of the reasons why their generations under forty and skewing hard left even compared to other places: they have witnessed in their lifetimes how utterly effective the neoliberal model is at taking thriving, efficient societies and turning them to shit. Their boomers are literal soulless age of empire trogs who think they still own half the world though, so they can't get anywhere until that generation is dead.
GW are particularly bad however. They've always been an especially evil company. Never give them anything.
I'd say younger generations are skewing both right and left. The centre is dead and the future will be interesting.
>The centre is dead
Good fricking riddance.
>thriving, efficient societies and turning them to shit.
Literally, in the case of anything involving our foetid water companies, metaphorically in almost everything else. I particularly "liked" that idea from the other week of giving the Post Office back to the workers now that its been gutted and everything's broken in an even more spectacular way than normal. Reminded of the joke about the meek inheriting the earth - what did the poor bastards do to deserve that?
Nah, there's a split. Lefties, usually uni students and upper middle class - those with a comfy life and no real understanding of the real world, and those on the right who are working class, or have actually left the protective shell of their ivory towers and seen the damage being done to our society in the name of "progression".
The former are largely protected by the government as they are easy to herd/manipulate, the latter are seen as a threat to Richie "totally British sahib, don't question me" Sunaks plans for the country and demonised.
Meanwhile it's the every day working man who suffers.
Hum, leftist working class simply surviving, here. You are full of shit, but nice headcanon of how the world works in your mind's eye. Very enlightening, even. Maybe try not to vote buttholes into power positions instead of wanking at your fantasy of being a right leaning man of the people, Ja?
Not him but frankly I haven't bothered voting in ages. Both sides fold to bureaucratic and business interests as soon as they get elected.
What's your trade?
This will never get an answer because no working class person outside the union structure identifies as leftwing because they were abandoned as racist homophobes by the janitor/janissary class lol.
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Food packager/starving artist
I guess that I do not exist then. Feels fine
So you don't have a trade.
Black folk, the lot of you
I prefer the term rudypoo
If you don't remember rudypoos you aren't a proper oldgay
>starving artist
have a nice day.
>food packager
Thank you for your service.
People will literally avoid learning a skill and then call themselves working class because they think it means "poor." Silly middle class fricks.
The problem is that once it improves for the working class they immediately think they're middle class and start working against the system that lifted them up from poverty. Then you have the homosexuals like
who think the tax payers should pay for his liberal arts education that will never become a net positive for society.
Get a real job. Stop thinking your hobby is anything more than just that. If you actually had talent you would have a patreon or OnlyFans if you are a femanon.
I will not be discussing this with you unwashed furry c**ts at this time, thank you. If what you're offering the world is lewd commissions, maybe you should find something to fall back on that people need or use and then you can call yourself working class. Being useless and ignorant just makes you lumpenproles
Well the moron would like you to know that he never had the money to enter an art school in the first place, so frick you sideways
Good, if you can't afford it then you're actually working class. Check out welding as a trade. Pays well and you can work abroad.
Let me guess, sports fan?
>t-that's different!
Well your a real oddi-
>Food packager/starving artist
Lmao. Your not working class, your some pampered middle class "oh woe is me the world is so hard, why cant i just be payed for doing what i want" type. Get a proper job, graft your arse off, then come back after 6 months. Better yet, come North too.
Have you bang to rights
>inb4 what's ur trade
Right now I'm a cleaner and a groundsman, educating myself in tree surgery and parkland management.
But I don't care about your trade or your opinion of my professional life, just like I don't care about those other morons - you are an egotistical idiot wanking itself on an anonymous image board dedicated to plastic toys and make-believe games, trying to forget how pathetic his life is. Know your fricking place, dog
You started the ideologygayging and got your shit pushed in and now you're crying, just use words for their meaning then. Failure to launch does not equal working class, thanks
Good lad and based
NTA
>You started the ideologygayging and got your shit pushed in and now you're crying, just use words for their meaning then.+
The level of projection on display lmao
>I'm but a poor working classshoeshiner 'cos evil Maggie has allthe Kill Team boxes
Ok Ash Sarkar, it's anuddah Cable Street
>Quotes sth nobody said
Okay schizo
Thankyou anon. I only hope to better myself and others.
Cry harder, you tried to claim you were working class and that I was making things about the working class mindset up, and then outed yourself as a pampered middle class fool with no realistic idea of what a working life is actually like, and other anons have shot you down.
As I said before, learn a trade and graft. Give it 6 months and see how your ideology shifts.
It's a LARP they do because they can't yell at us over musket fire anymore lol
The levels of copium on display here, astonishing
>Y-you don't exist! Oh no wait you do, uh, you are a fake! C-cry harder! Learn a trade! P-please validate my shitty life choices and ideology, reeeeeeeee
Seeing how lame some people are around here really is therapeutic
You don't have to reply if you are secure in your choices, Mr Bordiga. I expect you just like pity and bossing around your lessers like most leftists.
The left will only install more buerocrats to micro manage female empowerment or some shit like that. And maybe import a few million more pakis for the lulz. The future is a protection racket and and you can only hope to be part of one or another.
GW is a lot like any big company in the vidya industry. They know they can pay shit because there will always be a line of starry eyed naive young people who would love nothing more than to work for their favorite company, regardless of the pay.
GW brass are a bunch of greedy homosexuals who pay their employees shit and endlessly crank up the price of all of their products (a basic 10 man squad of models is $70 now, seventy fricking dollars for ten models) and they will keep doing it because its Warhammer and they know people will keep buying it.
More people need to embrace recasts and/or 3D printing.
If you are recasting etc you are still a part of the GW ecosystem and therefore still part of the problem.
If there was another large scale 28mm sci-fi wargame that had a playerbase as large as 40K than I wouldn't have to stick to GW's ecosystem, but there isn't.
> muh dropfleet commander trash
> muh brickwars shit that is even more expensive than Warhammer
> muh infinity skirmish shit
> muh random 3D printed kickstarter game that 4 people in my entire time zone play
No one gives a shit about any of these.
I get it, you are a coping whale. Gw owns you whether some money goes out the side to Shanghai or not.
> can't name a single alternative game system that fits the requirements
Figured as much.
>large scale
>28mm
I've found your problem chief, the civilized world decided mass battles in 28mm are a moronic concept and stopped making them. Also
>large player base
Who gives a shit how many players a game has as long as your community has enough for regular games, if it doesn't then its up to you to convert em.
Lastly because you wanted recommendations for good sci-fi rules here are a few (in a proper scale).
Dirtside 2
Stargrunt 2
Future War Commander
Clash on the Fringe
Rogue Hammer
Renegade Scout
Laserstorm
Battletech
Gunframe
CAV Strike Operations
Strike Legion
One Page Rules !not GW stuff
FAD 4.0
FUBAR
Fistful of Lead (Various)
OGRE
Iron Cow 2103AD
There are so fricking many good sci fi games take your pick you dumb frick consumer.
I'm sure all those games get played weekly at your local club or store, anon. Yes, certainly.
At least one game on this list is played by someone at the club weekly, it helps to have an open mind and no sunk cost fallacy.
you "have to" stick to "GW''s ecosystem" in the same way my shut-in chinese housemate at uni 'needed' pizza delivery to live, you are unwilling to put in even a mite more than the least possible effort
if by some chance, and a great deal of mismanagement from GW, a game eclipses the immense corporate edifice of 40k then you will be nothing more than a floating lump of refuse carried along on a tide of other people's opinions and effort
>my dad works at nintendo
Make your own game, anon. I did.
>But nobody plays it!
Teach your friends. Have extra armies. Make it easy to learn and get minis for it
>WTF, you could literally make more money working in a supermarket.
It would be harder work though.
Working at GW isn’t a job. Much like wargaming itself, it is a hobby enjoyed by the independently wealthy. Only difference for GW employees is they get to make the games. The salary is a token for legal reasons.
nobody's stopping them get real jobs
>we arent really socialists, i swear
Again, you keeping saying "socialists" as though it is something objectively horrible, but you don't seem to have any grounding for what it is or why it is bad. All the modern negative connotations of socialism are rooted in communist Marxist/Leninist theory. Without using the word 'socialism', can you explain why it is so terrible?
>socialism wont cause famine and genocide this time, i swear
>russia creates a new kind of socialism thats totally not like the other kinds
>we are the true socialists
>genocide an starvation for a hundred years
>italy creates a new kind of socialism thats totally not like the other kinds
>we are the true socialists
>population kills the creator because everything went to shit so quickly
>germany creates a new kind of socialism thats totally not like the other kinds
>we are the true socialists
>unsustainable economy based on moron ideas of how markets work forces them into starting the worst war in history
>genocide and starvation
>china creates a new kind of socialism thats totally not like the other kinds
>we are the true socialists
>genocide and starvation
>create ANOTHER kind of socialism thats totally not like the other kinds
>we are the true socialists
>genocide and starvation again
>just created their third kind of socialism thats totally not like the other kinds
>we are the true socialists
>actively genociding muslims and starvation ongoing in rural areas
>cuba creates a new kind of socialism thats totally not like the other kinds
>we are the true socialists
>genocide and starvation
>venezuela creates a new kind of socialism thats totally not like the other kinds
>we are the true socialists
>within a few years people are starving and eating wild rabbits
>starvation now, genocide soon
>canada creates a new kind of socialism thats totally not like the other kinds
>we are the true socialists
>food prices out of control
>euthanizing the moronic
gee i wonder whats going to happen
>genocide an starvation for a hundred years
They ended a genocide and starvation.
technically if everyone dies then the genocide is over
It is objectively horrible.
The reason modern negative connotations of socialism are rooted in communist marxist/leninist theory is because it is. Gramscian philosophy is the root of every western school of socialism, and his roots were in marxist/leninist theory. His big idea was to uproot the alleged cultural dominance of the bourgeoisie by leading the workers via intellectual and moral example (the basis for modern day virtue signaling). He laid the ground work for critical theory, and led to every college in the western teaching it as economic fact. These theories are self admittedly destructive to a society, and they rationalize your destruction on the grounds that the society of tomorrow will be better. That's why journos tell you that nostalgia is fascism, men are women, and war is peace.
And based national socialists hung the lying lot of them. They invented the term "lugenpresse" to reference the corrupt communist media engine.
No, national socialists also draw from the gramscian school of thought, but disagree with his methods. Not subversion, but naked force.
Please tell me more. I have a hard time seeing the negatives of the NSDAP model if you're not a leech or a foreigner. It's hard to find any sort of even slightly unbiased commentary of information on the NS Germany's economic system.
leech or foreigner can mean whatever the state wants it to mean. If you cede unflinching power to the state, then you have no power to stop the state when it missteps. It inevitably will misstep, because it is run by humans, and more often than not, the humans who seek as much power as they can have. The more power a state has, the more damage can be caused by a corruption of that state.
Socialism is by its very nature the rule of a secular priest class of intellectuals. And intellectuals are objectively horrible rulers.
You call yourselves national socialists, preach state control over the economy, rail against banks and investments and cream yourselves over dictators.
No one is buying your shit, commie.
>doesn’t even advertise salaries on their jobs
>we want people who enjoy the hobby not the money
>translation: we pay frick all and we will work you like a field buck
There’s been an ongoing debate in the UK over changing the law so companies have to advertise salaries. GW relies on autists who work for cheap because they get a 50% discount on 40k
They do here in Aus. But like the UK, super low wages, was looking at their head of distribution as it aligns with my skills, 70k. A touch over minimum wage
They should just focus on their toys and let other companies make rules.
Frick JW.
All this tells me is that Managers just take too damn much money for themselves.
Be aware that in every thread about GW jobs there are shills saying the wages are fine and its a great place to work when in fact its a fricking garbage company to work for with a notoriously high turnover rate because no one can hack it for more than a few years.
Today I read a post about an anon who was making 30k a year in 2014 (he was 24) and a 30yo woman who was making 120k a year became his sugar mommy.
Yeah used to work in the industry myself, not for GW but for another relatively big tabletop company. Pay was terrible (20k), I wasn't even doing the fun stuff. (I was in marketing)
Left and started my own games company. Earn twice as much now as I did then. Sad thing is it doesn't matter, they replaced me really quickly as there's a huge supply of people who want to work in games so they can pay piss poor.
Is that not the same in vidya and other hobby/ "passion" industries?
Vidya devs get payed really well generally but crunch at work, essentially have no lives.
GB and Sweden are the sick c**ts of Europe. The wages are ridiculously low and stagnat in these countries. I would make more as a barista in Denmark than at my current job as a certified welder in Sweden. I'm new so my wage will increase a lot in the future but I still feel like a n*gger compared to the Danes. At least we're better than the Anglos.
>Actually there was a basis for the Satanic Panic
>psychopaths and rapists exist
>that's the basis
So you ARE moronic, thanks for proving my fricking point
Intellectually lazy. There was a correlation with people playing elf games and people who thought they could summon the Devil. There is a correlation between the person who stated he would groom children as an ironic reference to making them more tolerant and his mixed media idealising paedophilia.
It goes deeper. Look into Aasimov, Marion Zimmer Bradley. And others. Counterculture and fandom, bohemian traditions and criminality, sci fi and conventions, abuse and coverup all actually have some overlap.
Guardian Singles is another website
>itt, stupid morons explain to you what is and isn't working class while reeing about dem wokes
just buy some cool new toy soldiers and frick off, you bunch of useless mouthbreathers
moron boomer managers think paying their staff like shit is one weird trick to free profit, & also that labour is basically fungible because it is in babby economic models so why not pay some idiot 20k if you can get away with it.
Warhammer 20,000
It works for warhammer because there are thousands of autists willing to work for pennies and discount plastic. They know this because their business model is based on these people existing.
>>the guy who "wrote" the Blood Bowl reboot in 2016 was on £22k a year
Sounds about right. Just cause your name is on the cover, doesn't mean it's well paying. I know a friend who published some books and when they crunched the numbers of hours of writing and editing, along with their payday, it came out to like $17 an hour. Unless you can get a popular series out, it's not super glamorous.
Being a game designer for GW or whatever the frick is like being a firefighter - it’s this awesome job that everyone wants, doesn’t take a ton of skill or training (sorry firehomosexuals - I know you’re ladder pulling the shit out of your nepotism-gated little club by forcing ever increasing hours of community college education, but it’s still a job that’s next to impossible to get into due to number of applicants vs positions). Oh you don’t want to design games for us for fast food wages? That’s too bad. Whatever are we going to do?
Companies don’t give a frick about you. Gotta make them margins. AI will be writing rules and designing minis in 5 years.
>AI will be writing rules and designing minis in 5 years.
Good, maybe it’ll pick up on stupid broken rules interactions and stop making models that look like they’ve been dipped in a mallgoth’s handbag.
Yeah england has a shitty economy with very low wages, median household there makes ~10k less than an American one