Art is something you have to strive for, art is a struggle, art enriches the soul. Entertainment is a mere facade of what art intends to create.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The term and all use of it is meaningless drivel, have a nice day
10 months ago
Anonymous
In concept what you say has merit, but current art is just a giant circle jerk
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Art is something you have to strive for, art is a struggle, art enriches the soul. Entertainment is a mere facade of what art intends to create.
Art is a kid scribbbling down something on a paper and that's an expression of their soul as well. You are either underage or just a tryhard homosexual.
>uncreatives can never imagine wanting to create something to enrich society, for yourself, or for the soul.
Sad, really. Is it all about money to you?
You can't create shit if you are dead, as in if you have no money to buy food or means to produce your own food you stupid fricking pleb.
10 months ago
Anonymous
> Art is a kid scribbbling down something on a paper and that's an expression of their soul as well
I agree, but children are some of the most creative minds on the planet. They are not scribbling for anyone but themselves, not for money not for capital not for anyone elses desires.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You can't create shit if you are dead, as in if you have no money to buy food or means to produce your own food you stupid fricking pleb.
Non-sequitur. First off, learn to read
>Creative endeavor that has value outside of a purely commercial entertainment-based context.
This does not rule out commercial viability but even so plenty of artists just made their art on the side and held steady jobs. Charles Ives was an insurance salesman.
Literature and music can both be entertaining. Experiencing entertainment does not disqualify something from being art, likewise neither does something not being entertaining disqualify it from being art. I think you have narrow definitions around what art is and can be.
>the soul
Imbecile. I can create for myself, and were I a moron I could create for society, but there is no meaningful sense of "value" applicable to either.
Sounds like a pretentious homosexual. Back to Ganker and specifically the film house containment thread, homosexual.
Videogames are entertainment and fun first, always, homosexual.
>Imageboard >28 posts only 3 with images >1 image is OP's >Other 2 images are not related at all to OP's request
What's the point to be on an imageboard at this point, might as well be Reddit.
Gris
Journey
Kentucky Route Zero
Disco Elysium
Soma
Papers Please
This War of Mine
The Stillness of the Wind
Outer Wilds
I think these are all decent examples of games that I consider to be art. The art medium that games exist in is agency/interactivity. Read "Games: Agency As Art" by C. Thi Ngyuen, since imo it makes a very good argument for what type of art video games are.
Damn son , u really read that shit? Sounds like typical liberal trashes written by asian who adopted western bullshit SJW fully. Her name is NGUYEN. can't get more typical than that
>bait >can't read book since Asian write it
His name is Nguyen actually. He's a professor specializing in the philosophy of art and aesthetics, but judging by the grammar of your post and colloqualisms I'd assume philosophy is above your reading level. I can refer you several books regarding the art of videogames not grounded in the western tradition if you'd prefer
define high art
Creative endeavor that has value outside of a purely commercial entertainment-based context.
Impossible because video games are the definition of entertainment
So is music and literature but a lot of it reaches greater heights than that.
Literature and music are art not entertainment lmao. Now genre fiction, popular music. That's entertainment.
If music were not entertainment Haydn wouldn't have had a morsel to eat.
Art is entertainment tho
Art is something you have to strive for, art is a struggle, art enriches the soul. Entertainment is a mere facade of what art intends to create.
The term and all use of it is meaningless drivel, have a nice day
In concept what you say has merit, but current art is just a giant circle jerk
>Art is something you have to strive for, art is a struggle, art enriches the soul. Entertainment is a mere facade of what art intends to create.
Art is a kid scribbbling down something on a paper and that's an expression of their soul as well. You are either underage or just a tryhard homosexual.
You can't create shit if you are dead, as in if you have no money to buy food or means to produce your own food you stupid fricking pleb.
> Art is a kid scribbbling down something on a paper and that's an expression of their soul as well
I agree, but children are some of the most creative minds on the planet. They are not scribbling for anyone but themselves, not for money not for capital not for anyone elses desires.
>You can't create shit if you are dead, as in if you have no money to buy food or means to produce your own food you stupid fricking pleb.
Non-sequitur. First off, learn to read
>Creative endeavor that has value outside of a purely commercial entertainment-based context.
This does not rule out commercial viability but even so plenty of artists just made their art on the side and held steady jobs. Charles Ives was an insurance salesman.
Literature and music can both be entertaining. Experiencing entertainment does not disqualify something from being art, likewise neither does something not being entertaining disqualify it from being art. I think you have narrow definitions around what art is and can be.
Nope;
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CUHptRPG2e8
How does that video disqualify what I wrote?
that's every name-your-own-price game on itch.io
this is not a board for you then, get the frick out and never return
That is a contradiction, then. Frick off.
>uncreatives can never imagine wanting to create something to enrich society, for yourself, or for the soul.
Sad, really. Is it all about money to you?
>the soul
Imbecile. I can create for myself, and were I a moron I could create for society, but there is no meaningful sense of "value" applicable to either.
Doing things for humanity is a collective good. And is valuable. But you don't believe in the soul, so you aren't really human anon...
>it is good, therefore it is valuable
Adding more meaningless words gets you nowhere
if it enriches people's lives and emboldens them to connect with others and the human experience then it is valuable.
>enriches
Meaningless.
>connect with others
Arbitrary.
>the human experience
Which you connect with by existing since that is all it amounts to.
You just don't get it. I bet the insignificance of life brings you anger rather than peace. It's fine anon, we all have our path to walk.
It brings me indifference, as do most things, including your incoherent ramblings
Fair enough.
Metal Slug
basically anything made by the pre-2001 SNK. Those were the closest stuff I can think of when it comes to genuine art.
Sounds like a pretentious homosexual. Back to Ganker and specifically the film house containment thread, homosexual.
Videogames are entertainment and fun first, always, homosexual.
Poop on white paper.
What about El Shaddai?
Never heard of it. Make your case.
Of course you haven't newfrag.
Doom.
moronic
Vague allusions to myth and barely-recognisable expressions does not make high art, you have shit taste
>Imageboard
>28 posts only 3 with images
>1 image is OP's
>Other 2 images are not related at all to OP's request
What's the point to be on an imageboard at this point, might as well be Reddit.
There is no such thing as "art".
Only a tranime gay would think this
There is no such thing as "art"
The hunt is over.
Gris
Journey
Kentucky Route Zero
Disco Elysium
Soma
Papers Please
This War of Mine
The Stillness of the Wind
Outer Wilds
I think these are all decent examples of games that I consider to be art. The art medium that games exist in is agency/interactivity. Read "Games: Agency As Art" by C. Thi Ngyuen, since imo it makes a very good argument for what type of art video games are.
Damn son , u really read that shit? Sounds like typical liberal trashes written by asian who adopted western bullshit SJW fully. Her name is NGUYEN. can't get more typical than that
>bait
>can't read book since Asian write it
His name is Nguyen actually. He's a professor specializing in the philosophy of art and aesthetics, but judging by the grammar of your post and colloqualisms I'd assume philosophy is above your reading level. I can refer you several books regarding the art of videogames not grounded in the western tradition if you'd prefer
Why don't you refer me to some books about boobs and beer you fricking Black person
Oh in that case, this might be more your speed then.
>t. walking stereotype
>The hunt for high art vidya continues...
So have we accepted that video games are art and now the question is whether they can be HIGH art?