The last character you played is gifted with a double barrel shotgun and a box of shells that provides 20 shells every sunrise.
Would this significantly impact the campaign you're playing?
The last character you played is gifted with a double barrel shotgun and a box of shells that provides 20 shells every sunrise.
It'd be helpful, but I think my character's had enough with guns thank you very much.
>Playing traveller
"Hey guys this ammo fab looks odd. and this gun I found is shitty, but I think it's a museum piece?"
Have you tried not playing D&D?
>Nobody mentions D&D
>HAVE YOU TRIED NOT PLAYING D&D????
Obsessed. Take your fricking meds.
Would it come with audio based instructions? My character is an illiterate steppe nomad
They can probably play around with it and figure out how it works as long as he doesn't try to look down the barrel before figuring out it goes boom
"What're you doing steppe nomad?"
>[At Doom's Gate playing]
He's more of a rifle guy, but he's not gonna turn down an infinite shells shotgun.
The shells would be more useful than the gun
And could be used for spare change and barter
But scattergun ammo doesn’t hold a candle to the trade value range and penetration of wasteland made 5.56 ammo
If the box gave slugs each sunrise instead the players would be salivating
As their value is decently higher sitting comfortably at around 7x the price of buckshot and they have very good stopping power and damage potential rivaling the wasteland made yager 308 ammo
None whatsoever. Plus shotguns kinda suck
Depends on the range, I guess? Shotguns don't have close and long-range penalties, so at least they can work as better alternative to pistols in close quarters.
I guess the real deal is the infinite supply of the shells to it, but 20 is still fricking nothing in the long run.
Speaking of which:
Do you ask players to take count of their rounds, do it for them, just use some broad convention or what? It always annoys me how HEX at times devolves into bean-counting of various resources, despite NOT being designed with resource management in mind. Like why would you even play a pulp action game, if you have to non-stop make sure you still have enough bullets, bandages, tools and replacement parts, but in the same time you are allowed to always pull a fiver out of your pocket or have a pack of matches without having them listed.
Depends entirely on the tone of the current scenario/campaign.
If we are playing it like a crazy action flick, then I just have a behind-the-screen counter of "unlimited" ammo: entire scene they can shoot as much as they want, but once the scene is over, one of the beads is taken away. They usually have 4 of those.
If playing it as "survival in the dangerous land", I just have an abacus set behind the screen and move it around.
And this goes beyond just HEX. Abacus is easily the most important tool you can have on you when running games, even if you are moronic and can't use it as a calculator (or just a zoomershit). Speed things up significantly, and also makes it far easier to keep track of things.
Mechanically, the main advantage of shotguns is lack of range penalties: they always hit with full force and you never need to remove dice from your pool. As such, they completely outperform any other firearm in close range. The weapon type that gets obsolete this way is any non-automatic, non-mag-fed pistol, for they utterly suck in long range and deal insignificant damage at other ranges. Of course, they outrange shotguns in technicality, but their penalty to long range means they are equal in actual damage output. I'm also almost certain that when writing down shotguns as separate weapon class, they were thinking Mummy and, far more importantly, King Solomon's Mines, the Cannon version: a really strong fricking gun that is absolutely devastating up-close, but you want to have a rifle at any real long range
Also, consider all of this:
Shotguns can't miss, unless you don't have a single rank of Firearms skill (and thus get the "no skill" -2 penalty to roll). You are going to have at least 1 Dex, at least 1 Firearms and every single shotgun is 4 by itself. You've got guaranteed 3, so even without a roll, you can hit something, and with a roll, you will probably mince it, since your chance of rolling an extra damage is 50/50. And that's just the weakest possible character, so anything even remotely combat oriented will always drop things dead with shotguns.
Shotguns are the only gun that doesn't suck in Continous Combat rules, even if you have low Initiative. That sneaky melee c**t that is in front of you? Blast him to hell with full damage output. Any +x Initiative perks? Great, now you can fire first, and then fire second time, before anyone can even move. Quick Reload? Couldn't be better, because you are in action movie mode now, not needing any wasted actions ever and just blasting.
Shotguns also are the only gun in the list that can either deal non-lethal damage due to rock salt used and, more importantly, same gun can just use slugs or birdshot, depending on situation, not to mention the most and easier to overlook things: at point blank range, all shotguns operate as AoE attacks.
No other gun has the sheer fricking versatility of shotguns, yet people always b***h and moan about them, because they have effective range of 30 and then follow the standard rules of all guns in the range beyond effective. Yet if you ask those people, they will be unable to tell you when was the last scenario when they've fired at anyone or anything further away than 50, which shotguns still can easily pull at mere -2 penalty
Oh, and the one I usually forgot myself about:
If you are using the Secrets of the Surface World expansion, then you have access to custom-fitting your shotguns. One of the most basic ones is increasing weapon range a bit. Useless for rifles and handguns, but shotguns? They pretty much double their range for zero effort, removing their only (and supposed, rather than real) weakness.
No, he wouldn't even use it.
He's Kenshiro but even more of an idiot for Balance reasons, which is really lazy and anathema to a lot of people here, but I was being lazy and just wanted an easy character concept.
It's not like I was even the dumbest character on the table. Just one of them.
He already has a returning black dragon tooth dagger. It returns to his sheath and the drawing action fricks up his multi attack every other round. It seems like the reloading of the double barrel shotgun would frick it up every single round (you get one free draw action per round as part of a move) so it would need to be 1/3 again more effective than the dragon tooth, which I doubt it is. Can I get a bullpup instead?
>Smauggay is also a bullpupgay
Your shit taste is immesurable tripgay, have a nice day. also
>FPSRussia
he's not even russian and he's a terrible guntuber because he completely ignores the basic rules of gun saftey.
>tripgay
Namegay, Tripgay, they're the same smelly shit that has no place on Ganker.
Relax. Its just a funny gif, Anon. He can't accidentally shoot you from 15 years ago through the youtubes.
>and he's
was
>he completely ignores the basic rules of gun safety
Which one? The first and foremost rule of gun safety is to have fun.
>The first and foremost rule of gun safety is to have fun.
I hope you have a nice day and not an innocent bystander. The four rules of gun saftey are:
>Don't point your gun at anything you aren't prepared to kill/destroy
>Treat every firearm as if it was loaded at all times
>Do not put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire
>Always know the location of your target and what's behind/beyond it
These four rules are the basics of safe gun use, and if you don't know them and don't follow them then you're going to hurt yourself or someone else.
>box of shells
What type of shells?
Nope, last character I played was an Ogre, so he can't even get his fingers into the trigger guard.
>GM never runs games where you count ammo
nah they're in a pathfinder game with widespread guns, although it wouldn't be much use to them
if we step back to the black crusade campaign that might be a little more impactful; the box is far more intriguing than the gun for a heretek - although scatter is actually pretty great for low level melée enemies
>basic fantasy rpg
Jokes on you, in my post-post-post-post apocalyptic setting they’ve already found a wand of 10mm. It functions like a higher damage magic missile but with limited use. Not sure what a shotgun would do. Any ideas?
>be me
>Playing Coriolis the Third Horizon. >Playing as a mercenary Pilot who is also very good a shooting people
>also is a bit of a drunktard, but that's a perk of the job
>get a Vulkan Carbine that can go full auto at about 10 meters, but becomes shit it the enemy ita close enough to hit me on the face.
>Suddenly find big wooden stick that looks like a very rimitive fire weapon
>also find box with cilinders that look like go inside the stick
>Try to shoot it
>around 3-5m of the next wall suddenly disappeared and left a ton frick of holes
>love me prime stick
>decide to call it "The Boomstick", because it's a stick that makes a boom sound.
>LovemeBoomstick.dataDjinn
>notice that I have no problema with enemies getting to close now since they get evaporated with my Boomstick.
>notice that now I can open any door with the Boomstick
>can propel myself in the vacuum with the Boomstick
>and the box never seems to get empty of Boomstick cilinders
>Bless-the-icons.dataDjinn
Given he's a support party member who can read minds and be impervious to stabbing when concentrating, but otherwise is a totally normal middle-aged guy... and given we're in the middle of a manhunt that we're dancing around in resolving because the BBG can wither body parts and everybody in my party can only melee...
I might actually get the story moving.
>A first level sorcerer in PF2
I don't fricking know because i just played out of courtesy for testing the first game of a young GM friend of mine and i have no idead how shotgun should work in pf2 since that was my first (and probably last) game with that rulesystem.
Not in the slightest, the setting already has firearms.
I'm a forever GM. The last character I've played was a joke PC from a failed FATE campaign in '16. Considering the only enemy we've faced were stone golems and they proven to be impervious to any other way of taking them down than either using a ritual sledgehammer the GM conveniently put the temple we were looting and environmental traps (forcing them off cliffside and similar), I honestly doubt the shotgun would make any difference.
>Brawler that prefers nonlethal takedowns and improvized weapons
He'd use it for everything except shooting dudes
No because the antique flintlock pistol he was isekai'd with has already been magically enhanced with infinite ammo.
>only gun skill is rifle
>party shotgunner already has a SPAS-12 and nearly half a dozen flavors of shells for it, plus the cash on hand to get more
unless the box of shells can print dragon's breath rounds and APFSDS slugs, shit's at most going to be a quick buck
>now owns a second shotgun
He doesn't know how to use firearms, gets tossed to the side for his halberd
No I play a media in cyberpunk red but I'll take a free shot gun. Sniper and shot are both shoulder arms so she'll do pretty good with it. Hell yeah free shotgun
Depends on how shotgun stats are negotiated with GM.
Best case - it can be sawed off and great as 2-charge pistol (flintlock pistols were big) with worse range and better damage.
Worst case - it's just a arquebus with two charges and will be sold off most likely.
He'd probably give it to someone else in the party pretty quickly, fighting's not as much of a rush if you aren't doing it up close.
My most recent character was a pyromaniac wizard, so whether he'd even bother depends entirely on whether those are dragonsbreath shells.