I thought Ganker told me this game was actually heckin' underrated and better than San Andreas if so then how come it becomes unplayable a third of the way through?
Does anyone really say that? I see some people say they like the atmosphere but never someone say "yeah it's real underrated even better than San Andreas"
Yes I do, it is better than san andreas and vice city. Bikes and the RPG stuff added in SA were nice, but the overall atmosphere and fun were just not there.
https://i.imgur.com/zf4YdQM.jpg
The missions make me want to kill myself
I thought Ganker told me this game was actually heckin' underrated and better than San Andreas if so then how come it becomes unplayable a third of the way through?
WTF are you even talking about? Even my gf was able to finish the game you must be a special kind of moron lmao.
>it's better because the atmosphere and uh... fun
Opinion disregarded. Women and hipsters play games for the "atmosphere." And San Andreas and Vice City are way more fun than III.
>And San Andreas and Vice City are way more fun than III.
Not really, they have bigger maps, more options for what to do outside missions and such. But the missions themselves are pretty boring and uninspired. The characters are kinda lame. GTA3 was a fun arcade game that didn't take itself too seriously. It was just a fun experience.
The other GTA games just kinda missed that, they tried too hard and it just wasn't as funny anymore.
I replayed them all recently and I blazed thru 3 in a matter of days but I'm "stuck" at the san fiero garage in SA just because I'm kinda bored with the game and started replaying w3 campaign instead.. It was fun hearing all the "sheeet homie" ebonics for a while but it got boring pretty quick.
>GTA3 was a fun arcade game that didn't take itself too seriously. It was just a fun experience.
as opposed to fricking San Andreas and Vice City? Some times I think the people are actually moronic here and not just baiting for (you)s
2 years ago
Anonymous
>as opposed to fricking San Andreas and Vice City?
yes >Some times I think the people are actually moronic here and not just baiting for (you)s
yes you are here's your (you)
2 years ago
Anonymous
Everything after III started hiring celebrities and using nostalgia bait music to attract people and get likes, III felt wholly original
2 years ago
Anonymous
>moronic argument after moronic argument just to bait for (you)s
its too much effort for very little return
>But the missions themselves are pretty boring and uninspired
GTA missions are generally boring filler stuff, but in 3 like half of the missions are "drive from point A to point B on a time limit" with some slight variations.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>GTA missions are generally boring
What else is left if you take out the missions? Collecting packages? Taxi missions?
Come on be real, the only point of the game are the missions. Just spawning and trying to get as many stars as possible is no longer enough fun since I'm not 12 years old.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My point is that GTA games are boring in general, but GTA3 doesn't even try to make the missions engaging, all it can do most of the time is to give you some basic task with a time limit.
>WTF are you even talking about? Even my gf was able to finish the game you must be a special kind of moron lmao.
I was able to finish it. Didn't have fun. Felt like a chore
Does anyone really say that? I see some people say they like the atmosphere but never someone say "yeah it's real underrated even better than San Andreas"
Literally any mission involving the fricking cops. They spawn 30 feet away from you going 80 miles an hour and if you're in a car you get rocked around until you catch fire and if you're on foot you're just dead.
A cop car literally just spawned inside my car and it made it instantly catch fire. I don't like beating up on old games but what the hell. I wouldn't even care that much if hospitalization didn't take all your weapons away and there's no map function to even find Ammu-nation or Phil's guns you just have to remember where they are in this big ass city
This is the part where some dweeb replies and goes "lol skill issue" and "filtered" even though some games just age like old milk and should be thrown in the trash like the expired milk they are.
how does it feel to be such a filthy pleb peasant?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you love big black Black person dick with that expired milk of yours?
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is the part where some dweeb replies and goes "lol skill issue" and "filtered" even though some games just age like old milk and should be thrown in the trash like the expired milk they are.
A cop car literally just spawned inside my car and it made it instantly catch fire. I don't like beating up on old games but what the hell. I wouldn't even care that much if hospitalization didn't take all your weapons away and there's no map function to even find Ammu-nation or Phil's guns you just have to remember where they are in this big ass city
>this game aged like milk >In reality modern games hold your hand so much any lack of handholding makes it a bad game.
Normies shouldn’t play video games
>I wouldn't even care that much if hospitalization didn't take all your weapons away
That's the fricking point. You get punished for fricking up, so you don't want to frick up again and you then get real feelings when playing the game. The adrenaline rush is amazing when you are winning a hard part of a game. Playing modern vidya is fricking boring because it doesn't matter how you play because the checkpoint is right behind last corner.
>you get punished for fricking up
Don't fricking act like failing missions is always going to be the player's fault you smug homosexual. Several missions in III are completely purely because the game arbitrarily decided not to frick you. And it's not hard, the game gives you ample money to purchase new guns, it's just hard to remember where the fricking gun shops are.
>it is the best GTA
no its not, me and everyone else I know played it a while after it released ( around the time VC was about to release ) and then played almost every GTA game on release after that and none of us consider it to be the best GTA, you are a homosexual is all. It was a great game at the time and I wouldn't even consider it poorly aged, but its most certainly not the best GTA
+1
Played 3 and VC way back as a teenager, were some of the best times I've ever had back then, but SA was and still is the best, tried going back to 3 and VC because nostalgia and they don't fricking hold up, while SA still does.
Know what's even more mindboggling?, back then my shitbox PC struggled to even run GTA 3, and now I can play that shit flawlessly on my phone, god damn.
>they're remaking every single fricking thing imaginable, even fricking TLOU for a second time >GTA IV a game that actually needs a fricking remake gets diddly squat because Rockstar can't be assed to stop milking V for 5 fricking minutes
why man? why?
>Nico's VA hates Rockstar and refuses to ever work with them again
oh now what happened? Still its not like you need to bring him back to re record lines or whatever
>Nico's VA hates Rockstar and refuses to ever work with them again
oh now what happened? Still its not like you need to bring him back to re record lines or whatever
That is literally fake news and I hate that it still gets parroted around.
Lazlow had a Q&A years ago and confirmed that it was blown out of proportion, there was a video for it but now going back the guy who uploaded it deleted his YT account.
Either way, Michael Hollick's union fricked him over not R*.
and that is the only thing thats got going for it, Rockstar surpassed it with ever single iteration that came before it, that is what was supposed to happen, you know?
III is the purest essence of modern GTA without all the convoluted tacked on “activities”. It was the last entry that could still be called a “game” rather than a sim and wasn’t just a buggy total conversion mod with a shit map.
Sorry that the missions aren’t heavily scripted enough for you. Rockstar games stopped being kino when they moved away from this kind of mission design.
Why? They are comfy as frick. They are often short and sweet and they often let you do them however you want. By GTA5, they've become boring overlong slogfests with cutscenes, dialogue, long rides where you are supposed to listen to two people talking. Even in GTA3, those types of missions were better because the ride was short and the dialogue consisted of 1 or 2 funny jokes and that's it.
But games do age tho, times change, so does hardware and capabilities of said hardware, playing SNES games back in the 90s is not the same as playing them nowadays, your time now is worth much more and can be used for much much more, gaming or otherwise, than trying to get through super ghouls and goblins.
You're right, but Vice City map is smaller than Liberty City from GTA III
GTAIII map was the comfiest. It was so easy to remember, the cities just made sense and the missions literally show you where everything is.
VC map is fricking tiny and you barely visit some of the areas. SA map is just a massive clusterfrick but I guess thats american city design in video game form, the map option in menu was really needed for this one.
Zoomers are so mindbroken by modern game design they can't fathom that open world used to be difficult since you were forced to do what the game was specifically telling you NOT to do.
The only way to beat GTA III without pulling your hair out is by abusing the mechanics. This is how open world used to be back when people still remembered Driver and Ultima Underworld.
Idiot. GTA III is more in line with classic CPRGs because the devs understood players would abuse mechanics and find creative solutions to problem. If you go into any mission in the game headfirst without preparing or finding a busted vehicle it is your fault.
What "creative solutions" did you come up with and for what problems exactly? getting lost? it's funny how you bring up zoomers while literally struggling with GTA 3 and thinking its a difficult game.
Idiot. GTA III is more in line with classic CPRGs because the devs understood players would abuse mechanics and find creative solutions to problem. If you go into any mission in the game headfirst without preparing or finding a busted vehicle it is your fault.
>The only way to beat GTA III without pulling your hair out is by abusing the mechanics >the devs understood players would abuse mechanics and find creative solutions to problem
lol, what the frick are you talking about moron?
Idiot. GTA III is more in line with classic CPRGs because the devs understood players would abuse mechanics and find creative solutions to problem. If you go into any mission in the game headfirst without preparing or finding a busted vehicle it is your fault.
ok thats enough moronic posts for me today
night gentlemen
I'm currently platinum'ing San Andreas. What a great game. Is GTA3 going to give me a bad time?
It's not the remasters btw, it's the PS2 ports they released digitally
That doesn't even make any fricking sense, PS5 can't even play PS3/PS2 games. There's logic with the PC versions cause you can play them on any modern PC but removing fricking PS2 games from the store? Only the israeliteiest of israelites work at Rockstar of David
3 was great for the time but you really feel the flaws/limits compared to Vice City and San Andreas. The only semi flight capable vehicle was a clipped wing plane. Falling in water was a death sentence. Endgame has every faction in the city out to kill you, making finishing some side missions insanely difficult if not impossible if you held off on them. That said, I do miss the death animations of 3.
>3 was great for the time but you really feel the flaws/limits compared to Vice City and San Andreas. The only semi flight capable vehicle was a clipped wing plane. Falling in water was a death sentence.
GTA lost it's touch when it stopped being what Brits think America's like. It lost it's soul when it stopped heavily featuring the dev's mates on the radio for some Drum n Bass bangers.
>stopped heavily featuring the dev's mates on the radio for some Drum n Bass bangers.
GTA3 radio was the best. So many memorable songs. I couldn't believe they were all custom made just for the game except that one radio station that played scarface soundtrack. Fricking amazing.
VC and SA had some big hits on the stations but over all none of it was as memorable or catchy as GTA3 radios.
only mission i had issues with was the one where you needed to find and destroy random stalls on the entire map on a timer, iirc it was some mission given by the chinese lady at the construction site
i keep reading about all kind of stupid issues like cars randomly blowing up and shit spawns but thats probably a demaster issues since i cant remember having those issues when i played it and completed it 20 years ago in my early teens
I did that mission like a month ago on the original game, wasn't that hard. Just drive around and shoot bazooka at the stall once it shows up on map. Took like 2-3 tries tops.
I tried playing GTA5, and I honestly don't get it. In the old games the map would be littered with resources to find (weapons, armor, wanted stars, etc). It's what made exploration rewarding. As far as I can tell the world of 5 has absolutely nothing in it. Just scripted side-activities as if this was a Ubisoft game.
Is there something I'm missing here, or is the world really is this empty and dead? Why did people swallow this up?
You must be really bad at video games if GTA III’s missions drive you insane, bro. The only tough missions in III are the offroad vehicle side missions and the Paramedic side mission. The rest of the game is generally fairly chill.
Videos and information on GTA SA. Plus its sort of obvious with how much cut and unfinished content the game released with. The game even has several props and assets with the wrong texturing that has never been fixed.
>By the end of 3, most npcs are actively trying to kill you
3 is an important gaming as a whole but anyone trying to replay it is insane. You're better off during the start of the game than by the end. The anti-GTA
You are meant to follow the radar blip and learn the city as you play. sadly it turns out people are actual brainlets and could not do this. I imagine these are the same people that cry when they drive their car into a river while screaming "BUT THE GPS SAID TO GO THIS WAY, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO SEE A RIVER!?"
>You are meant to follow the radar blip and learn the city as you play
Thanks to this I know the GTA III map like the back of my hand.
Unlike GTA V for example, which has a giant clusterfrick of a map and it's basically a "follow the GPS line" simulator. Great fun eh
>I got more fingers and toes than Staunton has streets
And still I always forget where the fricking Ammu-Nation is.
https://noclip.website/#GrandTheftAuto3/0;ShareData=ANt=gUozw=UA+;O969u/=a~&ELur&gUmSB3T{a20WKx,BUqhnr9S5c=Ufl{eV[
Every time I see threads for III and VC it reminds me that Rockstar shut down those reverse engineering projects that were trying to make perfect ports of the game for multiple platforms, all so they could ship their broken pajeet developed UE5 demo "remasters", and that braindead nu-gamer cattle actually bought them.
>pull III, VC and SA from steam to force new players to buy shitty remakes of your games >shitty remakes are too shitty even for consoomers >pull shitty remakes from steam without getting the original versions back in there
who the frick is making these decisions?
>Is it actually feature complete?
As far as i am aware, yes. re3 is just a reverse engineered project with a bunch of fixes to make it like the PS2 version plus some quality of life improvements (like xinput support). https://github.com/td512/re3
Nice, how the frick didn't I hear about this. Is the Vice City one good too?
very good, anon. same as re3, feature complete and with improvements you can toggle on/off during compilation
So 60 fps works fine yeah? No broken missions or physics?
2 years ago
Anonymous
it's still best locked to 30 FPS because fixing the physics is an insanely difficult task for these games. Afaik there were attempts from the dev team to look at this issue but they were far too hard to fix
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah. Well I might stick with the original then. That's really all I was looking for. Still cool either way but I still play the games in 1024x768 and it doesn't bother me a bit
2 years ago
Anonymous
>playing in 1024x768
based. i do too. i'd still use re3/VC due to the fixing of numerous crashes and issues though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'll probably try it out one day. Too bad it got the axe for the New Delhi Demake
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Too bad it got the axe for the New Delhi Demake
yeah that's fricking outrageous.
the way they treated this classic trilogy is outright criminal
>Is it actually feature complete?
As far as i am aware, yes. re3 is just a reverse engineered project with a bunch of fixes to make it like the PS2 version plus some quality of life improvements (like xinput support). https://github.com/td512/re3
this will never not make me seethe with anger. re3 and reVC, and reLCS were METICULOUS projects.
the "babbys first UE4 project" demasters are so fricking shit it hurts physically to look at them
they are a good litmus test though. anyone defending them for any reason is 100% a moron and a pleb
GTA3's missions are the opposite of RDR2. They allow for the player to figure out their own way "to exploit" the gameplay in their advantage. Zoomie morons like OP complaining about it proves at R* were either right or they successfully conditioned an entire generation.
No it runs bad on PC as well - just these days you can get a solid 30fps (going above is where problems really arise) without needing a supercomputer. The game runs badly on everything.
Why would anyone play fricking GTA with kb+m? You people are sick, sick I tell you. >b-but muh shooting
Its difficulty is already so low that literal preschoolers play it and you want to make it even more easy? Fricking hell.
The GTA games had such incredibly awful single player design and people looked past it because of how amazing and fun everything else way (ie just fricking around in the open world)
They are very painful to replay years later
Many mission are plain boring, many mission are frustratingly difficult.
If you die you have to load all the way back to the hospital and then have to drive back to the mission start, load and skip cutscene, and then "in the mission" drive to where the mission actually takes place.
Even if you are by some miracle gliding through the missions its still painfully boring as 50% of the game is driving to and from missions and in missions driving to where the actual challenge happens
Many mission are plain boring, many mission are frustratingly difficult.
If you die you have to load all the way back to the hospital and then have to drive back to the mission start, load and skip cutscene, and then "in the mission" drive to where the mission actually takes place.
Even if you are by some miracle gliding through the missions its still painfully boring as 50% of the game is driving to and from missions and in missions driving to where the actual challenge happens
You're the reason RDR2 and GTAV mission design sucks and is all on rails.
>picks the worst game in the series >claims it finally fixed the series issues
Many mission are plain boring, many mission are frustratingly difficult.
If you die you have to load all the way back to the hospital and then have to drive back to the mission start, load and skip cutscene, and then "in the mission" drive to where the mission actually takes place.
Even if you are by some miracle gliding through the missions its still painfully boring as 50% of the game is driving to and from missions and in missions driving to where the actual challenge happens
>game is called grand theft auto >is annoyed you have to drive in it
kek, at least you morons out yourselves
just for the record, gta5 is such a boring crap I didn't even get it when it was for free
III has not aged well at all, even compared to Vice City which came out barely a year later. It was the real first of its kind and and I'm sure blew everyone's mind in 2001, but it was quickly done better. It's late 90s/early 00s atmosphere is top notch, it's barely even NYC and more of a strange British fever dream of a American Northeastern city around the turn of the millennium. But man does the gameplay fricking suck, I finally got around to playing it in 2008 (after I'd played VC, SA and IV) and I physically couldn't beat my Xbox copy of the first sniper mission. The controls quite literally make it impossible.
The only problem with gta 3 is that gun fire rate is way too fricking high and car health is way too fricking low. Pretty enjoyable until you piss off the mafia and end up dying in 1.5 seconds because they all aimbot your car on sight.
I thought Ganker told me this game was actually heckin' underrated and better than San Andreas if so then how come it becomes unplayable a third of the way through?
Does anyone really say that? I see some people say they like the atmosphere but never someone say "yeah it's real underrated even better than San Andreas"
Yes I do, it is better than san andreas and vice city. Bikes and the RPG stuff added in SA were nice, but the overall atmosphere and fun were just not there.
WTF are you even talking about? Even my gf was able to finish the game you must be a special kind of moron lmao.
>it's better because the atmosphere and uh... fun
Opinion disregarded. Women and hipsters play games for the "atmosphere." And San Andreas and Vice City are way more fun than III.
>And San Andreas and Vice City are way more fun than III.
Not really, they have bigger maps, more options for what to do outside missions and such. But the missions themselves are pretty boring and uninspired. The characters are kinda lame. GTA3 was a fun arcade game that didn't take itself too seriously. It was just a fun experience.
The other GTA games just kinda missed that, they tried too hard and it just wasn't as funny anymore.
I replayed them all recently and I blazed thru 3 in a matter of days but I'm "stuck" at the san fiero garage in SA just because I'm kinda bored with the game and started replaying w3 campaign instead.. It was fun hearing all the "sheeet homie" ebonics for a while but it got boring pretty quick.
You're right, but Vice City map is smaller than Liberty City from GTA III
>GTA3 was a fun arcade game that didn't take itself too seriously. It was just a fun experience.
as opposed to fricking San Andreas and Vice City? Some times I think the people are actually moronic here and not just baiting for (you)s
>as opposed to fricking San Andreas and Vice City?
yes
>Some times I think the people are actually moronic here and not just baiting for (you)s
yes you are here's your (you)
Everything after III started hiring celebrities and using nostalgia bait music to attract people and get likes, III felt wholly original
>moronic argument after moronic argument just to bait for (you)s
its too much effort for very little return
>But the missions themselves are pretty boring and uninspired
GTA missions are generally boring filler stuff, but in 3 like half of the missions are "drive from point A to point B on a time limit" with some slight variations.
>GTA missions are generally boring
What else is left if you take out the missions? Collecting packages? Taxi missions?
Come on be real, the only point of the game are the missions. Just spawning and trying to get as many stars as possible is no longer enough fun since I'm not 12 years old.
My point is that GTA games are boring in general, but GTA3 doesn't even try to make the missions engaging, all it can do most of the time is to give you some basic task with a time limit.
>WTF are you even talking about? Even my gf was able to finish the game you must be a special kind of moron lmao.
I was able to finish it. Didn't have fun. Felt like a chore
no one actually thinks 3 is the best. anyone who does is just trying to get a rise out of you.
it was good for the time but it didnt age well. wouldnt reccomend it to anyone
>no one actually thinks 3 is the best. anyone who does is just trying to get a rise out of you.
youre a pleb, III is the patrician's choice.
-1/10
been in the game for too long, get creative.
seems like your "detector" is failing, homosexual
>seems like your "detector" is failing, homosexual
soul
games don't age homosexual
If one is a zoomer they do.
which ones?
it is the best GTA
Literally any mission involving the fricking cops. They spawn 30 feet away from you going 80 miles an hour and if you're in a car you get rocked around until you catch fire and if you're on foot you're just dead.
A cop car literally just spawned inside my car and it made it instantly catch fire. I don't like beating up on old games but what the hell. I wouldn't even care that much if hospitalization didn't take all your weapons away and there's no map function to even find Ammu-nation or Phil's guns you just have to remember where they are in this big ass city
This is the part where some dweeb replies and goes "lol skill issue" and "filtered" even though some games just age like old milk and should be thrown in the trash like the expired milk they are.
imagine being this morono:
what a pleb
lmao
Expired milk drinker chug chug chug FEEL GOOOOOOOOOOD.
how does it feel to be such a filthy pleb peasant?
Do you love big black Black person dick with that expired milk of yours?
>this game aged like milk
>In reality modern games hold your hand so much any lack of handholding makes it a bad game.
Normies shouldn’t play video games
CALARTS BRIDGE?
>I wouldn't even care that much if hospitalization didn't take all your weapons away
That's the fricking point. You get punished for fricking up, so you don't want to frick up again and you then get real feelings when playing the game. The adrenaline rush is amazing when you are winning a hard part of a game. Playing modern vidya is fricking boring because it doesn't matter how you play because the checkpoint is right behind last corner.
>you get punished for fricking up
Don't fricking act like failing missions is always going to be the player's fault you smug homosexual. Several missions in III are completely purely because the game arbitrarily decided not to frick you. And it's not hard, the game gives you ample money to purchase new guns, it's just hard to remember where the fricking gun shops are.
completed*
are you playing the remaster be honest
>it is the best GTA
no its not, me and everyone else I know played it a while after it released ( around the time VC was about to release ) and then played almost every GTA game on release after that and none of us consider it to be the best GTA, you are a homosexual is all. It was a great game at the time and I wouldn't even consider it poorly aged, but its most certainly not the best GTA
so what is the best gta then, you humongous homosexual?
no competition
HAHAHAHA. i knew it was a nignog connoisseur
keep on dreaming gay
ladies relax, all GTA games are kinda shit. The point is you can steal cars and kill a lot of people. Not that the games themselves are any good.
>Not that the games themselves are any good.
oh really
give us an example of a good game
operation winback on the ps2
+1
Played 3 and VC way back as a teenager, were some of the best times I've ever had back then, but SA was and still is the best, tried going back to 3 and VC because nostalgia and they don't fricking hold up, while SA still does.
Know what's even more mindboggling?, back then my shitbox PC struggled to even run GTA 3, and now I can play that shit flawlessly on my phone, god damn.
this one
For me it's the best. I prefer dark, gloomy, neo-noir atmosphere of GTA III than for example brighty and shiny Vice City
*brightly
It’s the best PS2 GTA game, simple as
Timed missions will never be fun.
Nobody said that. It's a pretty good game for a PS2 launch title. Stop being a homosexual.
>video
>anime girls
good luck on the transition
>posts video about butchering a game
>instant reaction is to think about butchered people
>tranime homosexual in full defense mode
the piece of shit hotdog cart mission made me drop the game
Hardest GTA game, but still satisfying when you finish it
>Waka-Gashira Wipeout at 60 FPS
After playing all the GTA games recently I’ve found the AI in gta iv is the best along with the gameplay and replay ability
>they're remaking every single fricking thing imaginable, even fricking TLOU for a second time
>GTA IV a game that actually needs a fricking remake gets diddly squat because Rockstar can't be assed to stop milking V for 5 fricking minutes
why man? why?
Because rockstar has been taken over by millennials
what does that even mean? Millennials love IV
Rockstar only hires sjws now
anon wtf are you talking about
I wish they would fix IV's lag issues, It has always ran like shit on my PC for some reason
>lag
>AA sucks
>can't disable bloom FOR SOME FRICKING REASON
it looks like ass in general but it could be so much better its not fair
>for some reason
devs didn't know how to use the Rage engine back in the day, V has the same engine but much better implemented
Rockstar just seems to hate the living guts of GTA IV. They even aknowledged Max Payne 3's 10th anniversary but not for GTA IV.
Nico's VA hates Rockstar and refuses to ever work with them again right? Might have something to do with it.
>Nico's VA hates Rockstar and refuses to ever work with them again
oh now what happened? Still its not like you need to bring him back to re record lines or whatever
Then it would technically be a Remaster, not a Remake.
you can reuse audio and remake the rest,
That is literally fake news and I hate that it still gets parroted around.
Lazlow had a Q&A years ago and confirmed that it was blown out of proportion, there was a video for it but now going back the guy who uploaded it deleted his YT account.
Either way, Michael Hollick's union fricked him over not R*.
So why didn't he come back for either of the IV expansions or V?
>why?
cause IV is a nightmare code-wise, just like RDR
>I've got a date with a Cheese Deluxe!
>More money, more problems!
How can one game be this SOVL?
somehow using tank as a plane is easier than the dodo plane
You do know what a real dodo is?
>ITT people crying that a game that needs to be ran in WINDOWS ME compatibility mode doesn’t work right on windows 10
No shit. Also, none of the bugs and issues you guys say exists, actually are a thing on the right system.
it aged like shit, even V is better
Nope, you just have shitty taste.
Games don't age
>The missions make me want to kill myself
if you actually think this game is challenging then you definitely should.
fricking casual
I enjoy the atmosphere of 3. That is all.
Just beautiful
and that is the only thing thats got going for it, Rockstar surpassed it with ever single iteration that came before it, that is what was supposed to happen, you know?
I don't see VC as having "surpassed" 3. I see most appraisal of VC, for instance, being its atmosphere, i.e. 80s.
SA surpassed both, however.
Vice City is a more polished version of III with a fun setting instead of a realistic one, it plays better and is overall more fun
correct opinion spotted
Kino
Ludokino sovl
GTA 3 had very fun and intense arcade gameplay, even compared to GTA VC
Okay, go ahead.
III is the purest essence of modern GTA without all the convoluted tacked on “activities”. It was the last entry that could still be called a “game” rather than a sim and wasn’t just a buggy total conversion mod with a shit map.
Sorry that the missions aren’t heavily scripted enough for you. Rockstar games stopped being kino when they moved away from this kind of mission design.
Why? They are comfy as frick. They are often short and sweet and they often let you do them however you want. By GTA5, they've become boring overlong slogfests with cutscenes, dialogue, long rides where you are supposed to listen to two people talking. Even in GTA3, those types of missions were better because the ride was short and the dialogue consisted of 1 or 2 funny jokes and that's it.
frick zoomers and frick homosexuals who say games "age"
if this game is difficult to you, you suck dick at vidya
But games do age tho, times change, so does hardware and capabilities of said hardware, playing SNES games back in the 90s is not the same as playing them nowadays, your time now is worth much more and can be used for much much more, gaming or otherwise, than trying to get through super ghouls and goblins.
>tho
>comfy nostalgia of playing 3 as a kid
>replay it for the first time a year ago
>amazing experience
based
Shall I add GTA III to the "contrarian picks of Ganker" cork board?
I'd say yes, along with the Resident Evil movies, apparently
https://noclip.website/
has gta if anyone wants to look at the maps
GTAIII map was the comfiest. It was so easy to remember, the cities just made sense and the missions literally show you where everything is.
VC map is fricking tiny and you barely visit some of the areas. SA map is just a massive clusterfrick but I guess thats american city design in video game form, the map option in menu was really needed for this one.
Shoreside Vale is fricking awful and makes the worst of VC's map look like a masterpiece.
>SV makes the worst of VC's map look like a masterpiece
yeah, not really
are you that DS2gays reposting shitty DS3 screenshots too?
no im gtagay
Get re3 and disable HUD for screenshots.
no, HUD is part of the soul. the screens are from re3.
I disagree but i'm not going to argue over the point. Carry on.
Zoomers are so mindbroken by modern game design they can't fathom that open world used to be difficult since you were forced to do what the game was specifically telling you NOT to do.
The only way to beat GTA III without pulling your hair out is by abusing the mechanics. This is how open world used to be back when people still remembered Driver and Ultima Underworld.
>games used to be designed shittier
no way
Idiot. GTA III is more in line with classic CPRGs because the devs understood players would abuse mechanics and find creative solutions to problem. If you go into any mission in the game headfirst without preparing or finding a busted vehicle it is your fault.
What "creative solutions" did you come up with and for what problems exactly? getting lost? it's funny how you bring up zoomers while literally struggling with GTA 3 and thinking its a difficult game.
>The only way to beat GTA III without pulling your hair out is by abusing the mechanics
>the devs understood players would abuse mechanics and find creative solutions to problem
lol, what the frick are you talking about moron?
ok thats enough moronic posts for me today
night gentlemen
I'm currently platinum'ing San Andreas. What a great game. Is GTA3 going to give me a bad time?
It's not the remasters btw, it's the PS2 ports they released digitally
Do they still sell those?
Just checked and they don't anymore because of the shitty pajeet remasters, what a bunch of dicks. Glad I got them on a sale a year ago.
That doesn't even make any fricking sense, PS5 can't even play PS3/PS2 games. There's logic with the PC versions cause you can play them on any modern PC but removing fricking PS2 games from the store? Only the israeliteiest of israelites work at Rockstar of David
3 was great for the time but you really feel the flaws/limits compared to Vice City and San Andreas. The only semi flight capable vehicle was a clipped wing plane. Falling in water was a death sentence. Endgame has every faction in the city out to kill you, making finishing some side missions insanely difficult if not impossible if you held off on them. That said, I do miss the death animations of 3.
>3 was great for the time but you really feel the flaws/limits compared to Vice City and San Andreas. The only semi flight capable vehicle was a clipped wing plane. Falling in water was a death sentence.
Vice City protagonist can't swim as well
>vehicles are built like paper bags
>ever returing to portland after pissing off the mafia and they can one shot you
GTA lost it's touch when it stopped being what Brits think America's like. It lost it's soul when it stopped heavily featuring the dev's mates on the radio for some Drum n Bass bangers.
that is oddly specific anon, I wonder why that is
Just want more GTA2 in my life. That's all.
Have you tried Chinatown Wars? It's really fun on Nintendo DS
Rockstar will never implement the drug dealing mechanic into any other game. Why did they turn into such retrded israelites?????
Chinatown wars my man
>stopped heavily featuring the dev's mates on the radio for some Drum n Bass bangers.
GTA3 radio was the best. So many memorable songs. I couldn't believe they were all custom made just for the game except that one radio station that played scarface soundtrack. Fricking amazing.
VC and SA had some big hits on the stations but over all none of it was as memorable or catchy as GTA3 radios.
Holy shit I'm clicking thru this and so many bangers this is insane
only mission i had issues with was the one where you needed to find and destroy random stalls on the entire map on a timer, iirc it was some mission given by the chinese lady at the construction site
i keep reading about all kind of stupid issues like cars randomly blowing up and shit spawns but thats probably a demaster issues since i cant remember having those issues when i played it and completed it 20 years ago in my early teens
I did that mission like a month ago on the original game, wasn't that hard. Just drive around and shoot bazooka at the stall once it shows up on map. Took like 2-3 tries tops.
The rocket launcher makes that mission a breeze and by the you should be able to buy it from the army guy near the hospital.
I tried playing GTA5, and I honestly don't get it. In the old games the map would be littered with resources to find (weapons, armor, wanted stars, etc). It's what made exploration rewarding. As far as I can tell the world of 5 has absolutely nothing in it. Just scripted side-activities as if this was a Ubisoft game.
Is there something I'm missing here, or is the world really is this empty and dead? Why did people swallow this up?
GTA 5 is a tutorial for online, nothing more, nothing less
the only things it has going for it are the atmosphere and radio. peak kino, but the actual game part sucks.
git gud
You must be really bad at video games if GTA III’s missions drive you insane, bro. The only tough missions in III are the offroad vehicle side missions and the Paramedic side mission. The rest of the game is generally fairly chill.
>t. 100%ed every PS2 era GTA
just snooping around everyday locations you generally don't or can't reach IRL taking in the mundane freedom in all it's slightly dilapidated glory
Why was Shoreside Vale so underused? Cut content or was it always supposed to be like that?
The game was rushed for release and as such it had the least development time.
Its not as unfinished as GTA SA though. SA was actually not fully developted when it released.
What brings you to that conclusion anon?
Videos and information on GTA SA. Plus its sort of obvious with how much cut and unfinished content the game released with. The game even has several props and assets with the wrong texturing that has never been fixed.
you can even see it in the wireframe how lacking in detail it is compared to the rest.
I haven't played this in so long I can't imagine how bad it would be to play it today.
Its perfectly fine you just need to download the silent patch. Dont turn off framelimiter it breaks the physics kinda.
Cope harder lmao.
>By the end of 3, most npcs are actively trying to kill you
3 is an important gaming as a whole but anyone trying to replay it is insane. You're better off during the start of the game than by the end. The anti-GTA
ITT proof that games are getting dumbed down because the people playing them are getting dumber.
I don't believe that human race will survive the time when zoomers are in control. It's over. The End.
Luv me MSX.fm
Luv me Rise.FM
Luv me Portland
'Ate GTA V
'Ate Shark cards
Simple as.
Goddamn it I had a feeling it was a "map comes with the game" thing like Morrowind
That map is actually useless as the game never makes any reference to any of those locations in a meaningful way.
It's better than the radar being your only map
You are meant to follow the radar blip and learn the city as you play. sadly it turns out people are actual brainlets and could not do this. I imagine these are the same people that cry when they drive their car into a river while screaming "BUT THE GPS SAID TO GO THIS WAY, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO SEE A RIVER!?"
Dude, are you really saying maps are for zoomers? Are you this brain damaged by wanting to fit in?
>Dude, are you really saying maps are for zoomers?
No.
>You are meant to follow the radar blip and learn the city as you play
Thanks to this I know the GTA III map like the back of my hand.
Unlike GTA V for example, which has a giant clusterfrick of a map and it's basically a "follow the GPS line" simulator. Great fun eh
might be useful for taxi/police/firefighter since they give you locations
>I got more fingers and toes than Staunton has streets
And still I always forget where the fricking Ammu-Nation is.
https://noclip.website/#GrandTheftAuto3/0;ShareData=ANt=gUozw=UA+;O969u/=a~&ELur&gUmSB3T{a20WKx,BUqhnr9S5c=Ufl{eV[
it's a 3d map of the city
Every time I see threads for III and VC it reminds me that Rockstar shut down those reverse engineering projects that were trying to make perfect ports of the game for multiple platforms, all so they could ship their broken pajeet developed UE5 demo "remasters", and that braindead nu-gamer cattle actually bought them.
>pull III, VC and SA from steam to force new players to buy shitty remakes of your games
>shitty remakes are too shitty even for consoomers
>pull shitty remakes from steam without getting the original versions back in there
who the frick is making these decisions?
Rockstar didn't. Take two did. Luckily this is the internet and mirrors exist so frick 'em. Pic only semi related.
Is it actually feature complete? Is there a list of missing features/bugs if not?
Feature complete, with many improvements
Nice, how the frick didn't I hear about this. Is the Vice City one good too?
> Is the Vice City one good too?
Yes.
So 60 fps works fine yeah? No broken missions or physics?
it's still best locked to 30 FPS because fixing the physics is an insanely difficult task for these games. Afaik there were attempts from the dev team to look at this issue but they were far too hard to fix
Ah. Well I might stick with the original then. That's really all I was looking for. Still cool either way but I still play the games in 1024x768 and it doesn't bother me a bit
>playing in 1024x768
based. i do too. i'd still use re3/VC due to the fixing of numerous crashes and issues though.
I'll probably try it out one day. Too bad it got the axe for the New Delhi Demake
>Too bad it got the axe for the New Delhi Demake
yeah that's fricking outrageous.
the way they treated this classic trilogy is outright criminal
very good, anon. same as re3, feature complete and with improvements you can toggle on/off during compilation
>Is it actually feature complete?
As far as i am aware, yes. re3 is just a reverse engineered project with a bunch of fixes to make it like the PS2 version plus some quality of life improvements (like xinput support). https://github.com/td512/re3
this will never not make me seethe with anger. re3 and reVC, and reLCS were METICULOUS projects.
the "babbys first UE4 project" demasters are so fricking shit it hurts physically to look at them
they are a good litmus test though. anyone defending them for any reason is 100% a moron and a pleb
The other relcs is available on archive.org.
https://archive.org/details/grand-theft-auto-liberty-city-stories-pc
no driver's license?
GTA3's missions are the opposite of RDR2. They allow for the player to figure out their own way "to exploit" the gameplay in their advantage. Zoomie morons like OP complaining about it proves at R* were either right or they successfully conditioned an entire generation.
good post. you are completely correct, anon
the handholding these days is so insufferable
i'll never forget that time the cyberpunk 2077 Black person said he thought gta3 was cyberpunk and i immediately knew the game would be trash.
I need an 8k screen so I can do this for real rather than just as supersampling.
is gta4 good on pc? been wanting to play that game for a while.
Better than the console versions which struggle to run above 20fps when anything happens on screen.
ok cool. idk i remember hearing it ran bad on pc or something but i guess they fixed.
No it runs bad on PC as well - just these days you can get a solid 30fps (going above is where problems really arise) without needing a supercomputer. The game runs badly on everything.
They kinda fixed it but I still use DXVK
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV#Using_DXVK_to_improve_performance
It runs at a full 60 FPS on Xbox Series X with no slowdown. The same goes for its two DLCs.
At 720p and due to the high framerate some missions bug or cannot be completa like 4's finnal mission.
Mouse deadzone while aiming, so no. Although I think there's a mod that fixed that.
Why would anyone play fricking GTA with kb+m? You people are sick, sick I tell you.
>b-but muh shooting
Its difficulty is already so low that literal preschoolers play it and you want to make it even more easy? Fricking hell.
Well you sure aren't using a controller for the deep and complex driving model the game has.
every gta game has had auto aim since san andreas, mouse or controller is irrelevant
I'm having a lot of fun playing it modded, those "HD remaster" mods for cars, peds, textures" etc are pretty good.
Git gud, GTA3 is pretty good.
Yeah some are quite nice.
The GTA games had such incredibly awful single player design and people looked past it because of how amazing and fun everything else way (ie just fricking around in the open world)
They are very painful to replay years later
They only really started to fix things in GTA5
Many mission are plain boring, many mission are frustratingly difficult.
If you die you have to load all the way back to the hospital and then have to drive back to the mission start, load and skip cutscene, and then "in the mission" drive to where the mission actually takes place.
Even if you are by some miracle gliding through the missions its still painfully boring as 50% of the game is driving to and from missions and in missions driving to where the actual challenge happens
what a shit take. what a zoomer take.
>HOLD MY HAND DADDY I CANT FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO
I never said anything about things being difficult to figure out
Seems like you got your feelings hurt and your brain invented some shit to strawman
You're the reason RDR2 and GTAV mission design sucks and is all on rails.
>picks the worst game in the series
>claims it finally fixed the series issues
>game is called grand theft auto
>is annoyed you have to drive in it
kek, at least you morons out yourselves
just for the record, gta5 is such a boring crap I didn't even get it when it was for free
III has not aged well at all, even compared to Vice City which came out barely a year later. It was the real first of its kind and and I'm sure blew everyone's mind in 2001, but it was quickly done better. It's late 90s/early 00s atmosphere is top notch, it's barely even NYC and more of a strange British fever dream of a American Northeastern city around the turn of the millennium. But man does the gameplay fricking suck, I finally got around to playing it in 2008 (after I'd played VC, SA and IV) and I physically couldn't beat my Xbox copy of the first sniper mission. The controls quite literally make it impossible.
Does the blur filter look good on any kind of monitor? Why the hell is it on by default, it looks so bad.
zoom zoom
I still like 3 but for me San Andreas and IV are the very best GTA has to offer.
it's the only one i couldn't finish
some of the missions are too hard
80% of missions in all gta games feel like tutorials
>re3 and reVC still dead
>no update on the trial against T2
Any insiders here know the score?
The only problem with gta 3 is that gun fire rate is way too fricking high and car health is way too fricking low. Pretty enjoyable until you piss off the mafia and end up dying in 1.5 seconds because they all aimbot your car on sight.
vice city and san andreas fix it somewhat by adding a delay to hostile gangs attacking, you'd have to loiter around them for a while to get shot
someone should make a gta 3 mod like that
Fun game is fun.