This, it's fine, not underated or orverated. People that play the games even know the good and bad parts about it. OP is just a homosexual or needed a bait to make a xenoblade thread
It's because the Switch is so popular that many more people are exposed to it now than previously. But it doesn't have the prestige that comes with being old like most other Nintendo and jrpg franchises have. The Xenoblade hatebase was basically nonexistant before 2 released. Also unironically, that video
>how the frick even got that many haters?
My guess is some youtuber opinion. But i might be wrong.
>People that play the games even know the good and bad parts about it.
But the worst parts of Xenoblade are the battle system and Nopons and most Xenoblade fans think those are great.
>But the worst parts of Xenoblade are the battle system
That's fair but it's just a very different battle system not really bad if you learn later. >Nopons
Nopons are great though. They are an entire race of money hungry merchants that act cute for humans and profit from wars...
The battle system isn't bad because it's different (it's actually not that different, it's just a MMORPG battle system put in a single player game. There's no resources to keep track off because there's no consumable items you can use in battles, no MPs, and your HP is completely restored after every battle. Couple that with enemies being easily avoidable, exploration and battle is often more of a "doing it because I want" rather than an actual obstacle. In a normal JRPG, you enter a dungeon, periodically encounters battles, and slowly lose resources (HP, MP, items) as you delve deeper in the dungeon, until you exit and go to town to restore your resources. There's none of that in Xenoblade. In addition, there's little actual choices to do in battles because you mostly just play your character's build. Older JRPGs had the issue of "Mash A during battles" and plenty of modern JRPGs have fixed that, but Xenoblade has just obscured it with "Mash your rotation", an issue that plagues MMOs. You might move the cursor more but there's no actual thoughts involved. You can make yourself a decent build then play every battles the same way for the next 10 hours. Sure you might encounter a roadblock at some point but the answer isn't "play the fight more strategically", it's "change your build". Then you play that new build for the next 10 hours until your reach another roadblock. Lastly, I just think party-based games where your allies are controlled by an AI are inherently shit design, but zoomers must love this shit since half of modern JRPGs are like that.
Bravely Second might just be my favorite JRPG of all time tied with Default
I truly don't understand the hate it gets on this board
3 months ago
Anonymous
the loop system upset a lot of people. i personally loved it. as far as second goes, it was a downgrade in every aspect in my opinion. it was nice how they made magic good, but i couldn't care less if the story and music and characters are lame in comparison.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I truly don't understand the hate it gets on this board
Zoomer can't read, just ask any zoomer, they have never read a book to completion.
And yet still the best one. The only series that's really close to it in terms of total quality is Yakuza
XB1 is maybe 50-70 hours. If you're about turn-based gameplay or real-time RPG gameplay, it's a pretty good series.
The big sell is more the storytelling than just the story (though the story is pretty decent)
Pick up XB1 DE and just mosey through it at your own pace
I liked 1, even though it started overstaying its welcome towards the end
I couldn't get through 2, just pure cringe
It takes too long to build up combos and you have to do it every time you fight even the tiniest mob, gets old incredibly fast
Mainline SMT is more overrated.
Strange Journey being the most overrated game.
Just because Persona got popular, so try-hards began claiming they always loved SMT way before it was cool.
All modern JRPGs are extremely overrated, not in the "bad game that people call good" way but in the "good game that people call amazing" way. The two reasons they get overrated:
1. No excellent modern JRPG to set a standard, so the good game seems amazing when there's nothing amazing to compare it to
2. High production values which make the games look impressive on a graphical and technological level
Only one Xenoblade game broke 2 million sales. How is that overrated?
everybody on Ganker loves it
This, it's fine, not underated or orverated. People that play the games even know the good and bad parts about it. OP is just a homosexual or needed a bait to make a xenoblade thread
no i literally hate this gay game that has obvious. Nothing about it is good twists and shit combat
XB has the most antifans, so it's not overated for that reason anyways.
how the frick even got that many haters? is not even like xenogears had the popularity and prise of eva to generate so many contrarians as the later
>how the frick even got that many haters?
My guess is some youtuber opinion. But i might be wrong.
It's a mix of "fanbase think their game is the best shit ever" and "fanbase is full of coomers".
It's because the Switch is so popular that many more people are exposed to it now than previously. But it doesn't have the prestige that comes with being old like most other Nintendo and jrpg franchises have. The Xenoblade hatebase was basically nonexistant before 2 released. Also unironically, that video
>People that play the games even know the good and bad parts about it.
But the worst parts of Xenoblade are the battle system and Nopons and most Xenoblade fans think those are great.
>But the worst parts of Xenoblade are the battle system
That's fair but it's just a very different battle system not really bad if you learn later.
>Nopons
Nopons are great though. They are an entire race of money hungry merchants that act cute for humans and profit from wars...
The battle system isn't bad because it's different (it's actually not that different, it's just a MMORPG battle system put in a single player game. There's no resources to keep track off because there's no consumable items you can use in battles, no MPs, and your HP is completely restored after every battle. Couple that with enemies being easily avoidable, exploration and battle is often more of a "doing it because I want" rather than an actual obstacle. In a normal JRPG, you enter a dungeon, periodically encounters battles, and slowly lose resources (HP, MP, items) as you delve deeper in the dungeon, until you exit and go to town to restore your resources. There's none of that in Xenoblade. In addition, there's little actual choices to do in battles because you mostly just play your character's build. Older JRPGs had the issue of "Mash A during battles" and plenty of modern JRPGs have fixed that, but Xenoblade has just obscured it with "Mash your rotation", an issue that plagues MMOs. You might move the cursor more but there's no actual thoughts involved. You can make yourself a decent build then play every battles the same way for the next 10 hours. Sure you might encounter a roadblock at some point but the answer isn't "play the fight more strategically", it's "change your build". Then you play that new build for the next 10 hours until your reach another roadblock. Lastly, I just think party-based games where your allies are controlled by an AI are inherently shit design, but zoomers must love this shit since half of modern JRPGs are like that.
>system nobody cares about
>overrated
At least xenoblade sounds like a localized name. I've gotta give this award to shim megami taiwam, a game so shit it wasn't worth naming in English
I haven't started it yet because I'm hesitant to start something that will be like a 200 hour commitment
It's only like 80 hours long but the gameplay is pure shit and the story is average as frick
>It's only like 80 hours long
3 games homie
it's a jrpg though
well maybe i should play that then
i recommend default, second is pretty bad
>it's a jrpg though
Okay?
Default is the first one, play that first. Second is the sequel.
people always say this about JRPGs but i somehow finish them close to 100% in half the time. pic related is a perfect example.
You probably skip dialogue
sadly i didn't, i read all the garbage in bravely second
Bravely Second might just be my favorite JRPG of all time tied with Default
I truly don't understand the hate it gets on this board
the loop system upset a lot of people. i personally loved it. as far as second goes, it was a downgrade in every aspect in my opinion. it was nice how they made magic good, but i couldn't care less if the story and music and characters are lame in comparison.
>I truly don't understand the hate it gets on this board
Zoomer can't read, just ask any zoomer, they have never read a book to completion.
And yet still the best one. The only series that's really close to it in terms of total quality is Yakuza
XB1 is maybe 50-70 hours. If you're about turn-based gameplay or real-time RPG gameplay, it's a pretty good series.
The big sell is more the storytelling than just the story (though the story is pretty decent)
Pick up XB1 DE and just mosey through it at your own pace
I liked 1, even though it started overstaying its welcome towards the end
I couldn't get through 2, just pure cringe
It takes too long to build up combos and you have to do it every time you fight even the tiniest mob, gets old incredibly fast
That's not Kingdom Hearts.
Mainline SMT is more overrated.
Strange Journey being the most overrated game.
Just because Persona got popular, so try-hards began claiming they always loved SMT way before it was cool.
All modern JRPGs are extremely overrated, not in the "bad game that people call good" way but in the "good game that people call amazing" way. The two reasons they get overrated:
1. No excellent modern JRPG to set a standard, so the good game seems amazing when there's nothing amazing to compare it to
2. High production values which make the games look impressive on a graphical and technological level
Define modern
Last or current gen. PS4/PS5/Switch.
the SMT/Persona fandom is the other way around
Reddit loves xenoblade though
only someone who has been there would know that
>nothing personal kid
You just said reddit loves persona though so how do you know that?
Let me guess, you like Nomura slop
Who?
I want to play some JRPGs but I'm afraid they're all as absurdly boring as Golden Sun.