>the most powerful wizards of the land turn into crystal over a long period of time from overexposure to magic, losing their brain and consciousness in the process, but gaining supreme understanding
How would you pull this off successfully, mechanically?
>How would you pull this off successfully, mechanically?
Sokushinbutsu
>mechanically?
Nobody honestly cares about mechanics, it's just one mouthy autist that can't world-build so he tries to ruin threads by asking about stats/mechanics/systems.
lol, you can't produce mechanics for your game but you want to vomit up storyshit all the time? weak.
See what I mean? Still seething that he has no imagination.
speak for yourself, lmao
>ok how do we play your game?
>uhhhhh y-you have no i-ima-imagination
I literally just wing it for things like these. Give them an HP pool approximately how I think the party can manage and then smash them with flavored spells and abilities as I see fit with damage as I see fit and try to make it work retroactively.
So you use mechanics
Be careful, some crystals can cause hand growing. Your fingers would get very long, you would have very long and large hands which is a rare side effect of the crystals and nothing can cure it.
RARE
I never understood this
"Science"
Unless you are running a game that takes place over a period of hundreds of years, it’s irrelevant.
If you ARE running such a game, then at some point your sorcerer PC becomes unplayable. The above characters had unparalleled destructive powers but did not have the ambition or ego to do anything from sit.
it's moronic, if they lose their fricking brain and shit then they aren't gonna understand shit.
>he thinks the mind is in the brain
ok physicalist
>he thinks all words aren’t synonyms for the same single consciousness
Alright hylic
he specifically said that they lose their consciousness, which is what you use to understand things.
>Sokushinbutsu
my man they are clearly cognizant in game, just immobile due to CRYSTAL
Your brain is small, and wet, and squishy. Sad!
Where we're going, we won't need brains to think.
lol
Pretty close to the Vahnatai.
What game is this?
Miyazaki’s latest butt baby. Martin is the father
Elden Ring doesn't have a strict division between man-made magic and miracles the way Dark Souls (or DnD) does. Carian Sorcery is just another kind of spiritualism
>Dark Souls
I’m not sure what you mean. The magic in Elden Ring is in-fact rather comparable to its precursors Dark Souls and Demon Souls. Perhaps there’s more emphasis in Elden Ring, along with newer elements like alchemical concepts or GRRM’s various influences, but many of the themes have certainly been retained.
>DnD
Dungeons & Dragons has been an absolute disaster on the human psyche. Classes that aren’t just starter packages are disingenuous and confining and totally misses the nuance of humans and human thinking.
carians are homosexuals
Dark Souls sorcery is based on crystals and Seath the Scaleless. Elden Ring's is based on glintstones and meteoric ore. The study of the stars and the moon are new to Elden Ring's sorcery, though, and are clearly not tied to any god.
Miracles/incantations are very clearly tied to Outer Gods, though. Bloodflame incantations, Three Fingers, Giant's Flame, and of course the Golden Order are all tied to some outer god. Even the Dragon incantations are tied to an outer god, since Placidusax was a primordial analogue to Elden Lord.
>Miracles/incantations are very clearly tied to Outer Gods, though.
Or similar primordial entities such as the Crucible or Erdtree.
It's definitely broader than just Outer Gods (especially if you subscribe to the view that the Greater Will is not an Outer God like being). It seems that Incantations and Sorceries that use Faith all relate to some sort of "being" (outer gods, great will, fingers, ancient dragons etc) or "thing" (erdtree/crucible, mt gelmir, frenzy flame). Whereas sorceries (the int exclusive ones) strictly relate to cosmos itself, celestial bodies, and their movements.
>strictly relate to cosmos itself, celestial bodies, and their movements.
These come across as things too, if we’re to consider that space works like an ecosystem, especially the stars, which are living things.
Sorceries are derived from celestial bodies (the primal current, stars via glinstone and astrology, moon (lunar and all the carian variants) etc. Incantations come from Outer Gods (or powerful beings if you want to view the Greater Will as distinct from an Outer God)
Behead those who insult the House of Caria.
You moon turds still use blue glintstone in your Carian crap.
Obviously. Glintstones are the amber of the cosmos through which you channel power. Cyan represent stars, blue the moon, dark blue night (although these are also lunar), purple gravitational movement. You get idea.
Also friendly reminder that 20 Good Carian Men > Entire Golden Order
>20 Good Carian Men
And a witch-queen capable of going to-to-toe with Marika’s alter-ego, yes.
Yes, but while Radagon and Rennala were off having sex in the bushes, TWENTY Carian Knights dunked on the entire armed forces of the Golden Order
Did someone call for a Good Carian Man?
Wasn’t it *less* than twenty that could challenge the champions of gold?
and the Trolls.
From Troll Knight's Sword:
>the trolls are treated as true knights of Caria, and fight arm in arm with their human comrades.
Sooo, y'know, some of those 20 Carian knights were actually 25ft tall magic teleporting giants. I mean you see, like, 4 Carian Troll Knights and only 1 Carian Human Knight in game. But that's not as cool as just 20 humans. Or maybe it's extra cool.
These are troll knights and are summoned in between the conflict, there was 11 human knights and these guys on top of that.
Reminder that trolls are former giants with their chests/stomachs ripped out
Thorns sorcery casts from faith
Fundamentalist incantations cast from int
Beastial incantations cast from strength
Yes, and?
I'd sooner angle for something like this, but it's worldbuilding not mechanics.
Depends on the system
I had some metal skinned dwarves that used pic rel as their aging track. something similar would work for crystallization of wizards. modify to your system needs and switch aging for wizard power level.
In Destiny, the race called the Cabal are biologically longed lived (as are the Elikisni) but there is a bit of lore where a female Cabal leader was so old she was basically petrifying and could hardly move and she chose to kill herself instead of completely petrifying. Pictured is a female Cabal.
Which is weird that D&D goes out of its way to make these sources of power sooo radically different from one another when in some of the settings the wizards were using spells to basically become gods on demand or so powerful the only thing they couldn't do was bestow spells on other people via worship.
Isn’t the most powerful sorcerer in the Lands the Carian queen, Rennala of the full moon?
no
nah, probably Ranni. The Rennala you fight in the second phase is just something conjured by Ranni. That Ranni can make a boss, even if only an early game boss, says something of her power.
Also she has an insta kill and I believe there's no way the player can kill her but she does try to escape from that one shadow guy that the player can beat and isn't even that strong so who knows if she's actually all that powerful when put under pressure.
>The Rennala you fight in the second phase is just something conjured by Ranni
It was an illusionary glimpse of her mother in her prime. That's it. It's not supposed to be real.
>That Ranni can make a boss, even if only an early game boss, says something of her power.
Mechanics aside, the actual lethality of the whole encounter is brought into question, since Ranni is explicitly telling you to "spread the word" that her mother is still around and strong, and totally not a moping brokenhearted old bag. Ranni is also, y'know, on the player's side.
>Also she has an insta kill
Now this is funny.
>she does try to escape from that one shadow guy that the player can beat
I call bullshit that she's the weakest of the shard bearers. She's conveniently asleep when the player fights Radahn. She also bested Adula, according to the text. She turned herself into a cute little doll because she was lazy and couldn't be bothered. It was also for that cute factor.
>I believe there's no way the player can kill her
There's no way to kill Azur or Lusat either, and despite being immune to damage like superior Crystalians, they are given 19,528 and 24,057 in HP, respectively. Lusat's health is actually higher than the Elden Beast's, lol.
Ranni talks like an old woman
Well, she -is- an old woman, just like her mother. It has been quite some time. Her lines are very serene and sagely.
She should be somewhat younger than her mother, that's like basic biology stuff.
People forget she's old as balls since her body is a doll that looks like a young woman.
I am disappointed by people who draw porn of that body looking real and fleshy. You wanna frick her, go ahead, but you're gonna be pushing rope and it's gonna leave a friction burn on your junk.
dolljoints are an upside, not a downside. she's also got twice the armpits of a normal woman, what a lewd witch
Why do you have be a fricking spoilsport, huh? Who shit in your frickin gold rune cereal today?
Who shit in your frickin gold rune cereal today?
The Greater Will
Glintstone is a contagious cancer from the stars. Or, more specifically, the stuff of shattered stars. Stars are alive in this universe, crashing into and predating on the surface Lands. Like bugs.
Regardless of Intelligence as their primary stat, the glintstone sorcerer is -not- actually their brain, but rather their heart, or primal glintstone, and the conscious mind is -not- a requirement for sorcery, at all, and in the process of learning glintstone sorcery these persons are unknowingly piecing back together a different sort of cosmic mind, or cosmic intelligence—and those on the path of the ‘primeval current’ downright wish to restore it, rolling each other up into balls or clumps, or “star seeds”, a fate worse than death, all in the name of mad, occult “science”.
To be sure, the purists amongst the glintstone sorcerers want to ditch the conscious ego for something else’s; something truly alien and damaging and ruinous to the human existence. It is a death cult, and sorcerers stab themselves in the heart with primal glintstone blades as a form of ritual suicide of rebirth, ripping each other’s glintstone-infected hearts out and shoving them into suitable bodies, as a form of body swapping immortality. They also likely do this to avoid total crystallization over time—the grandmaster of the Olivinus school or conspectus had his whole brain crystallize into a gigantic eye, replacing it entirely, staring back at the player when they first meet. Who knows what it really belongs to.
Glintstone is nod or a metaphor for stardust and how all life comes from the stars, but stare too deep into space and something will stare back.
— ‘When Lusat glimpsed into the primeval current, he beheld the final moments of a great star cluster, and upon seeing it, he too was broken.’
The moon is closer to home, and the lunar Carians put a stop to the old primeval traditions once they gained a foothold at the academy.
Meant for
I have harvested my (You)
Where was this giant eye?
Anon… it’s staring right at you…
The guy on the right in OP
Haha. Why are wizards so silly?
It's not that exactly. Flintstone sorcerers turn into those big headballs & eventually turn into stars themselves, it's a mental/physical apotheosis. It's the Primeval Current cosmic circle of life. It's not cancer, but it is transformative
>It's not cancer
Anon dragons that eat glintstone sorcerers turn into glintstone dragons
In Elden Ring you are what you eat. You have the poison dragon, the frost dragon, etc. So shut the frick up
Anon glintstone is literally growing over miners and replacing their eyes
“Smarag was a devourer of sorcerers, and over time, his body became corrupted by their glintstones.”
I like how the various outer influences in the lands between act like spreading diseases, be it glintstone or the rot or just the frenzied (there are frenzied miranda plants of all things). The formless mother’s influence even appears as fleshy bleeding growths, or tumours, along walls and buildings.
>I like how the various outer influences in the lands between act like spreading diseases
It's pretty much everything, even the Erdtree itself (Also comes from space). Formless Mother could also be the Red Star.
>A golden-tinged flower from a succulent plant that blooms on the Altus Plateau.
>Faintly luminescent moss that grows in dark caves, speckled with tiny, yellow flowers.
>Someone's excrement. It has a golden tinge.
>Firefly that gives off a golden light. Found near bodies of water close to Minor Erdtrees.
>The golden, desiccated remains of a centipede.
>When the Elden Ring was shattered, these seeds flew from the Erdtree, scattering across the various lands
>Grace that dwells within the inhabitants of the Lands Between; the lingering residue of gold.
>There were once heroes who walked the battlefields, abundantly blessed by the Erdtree itself, who upon earning their honor simply died.
Don't forget that Liurnia already looks like it's a cold climate and Altus is in a higher geographical position.
Ultimately, Elden Ring world needs either Ranni or Miquella to succeed.
>everything is a taint of some kind
Fire fixes all of that :^)
All of that sounds rather radical in the raddest sense of word.
Liurnia… home…
Glintstone is the most is the most fascinating part of the game.
>shits in your cereal
>"you gonna finish that?"
The cantankerous connoisseur of crap…
Does he actually eat the poo poo
t. havent played
It's a japanese thing to somehow pull your soul out of your butthole. There is a monster in Sekiro that literally does this to you.
Anyway, I'm sure your soul, or whatever the frick he rips out of you, feels better to him covered in shit as he fricks it among the other things he does to defile you.
>It's a japanese thing to somehow pull your soul out of your butthole.
>It's located in the stomach. Kappas and the dung eater just suck it out through the anus.
Funny bit, there is a new trend that Kappas were actually aliens doing the typical cattle mutilation where the whole anus is removed. Some similar cases in humans have been reported, the most famous is the Guarapiranga reservoir in Brazil. There are also tons of cases connecting ayys to water.
Anyway, if you wanna have a good time, type Kappa Sucking Ass on Google, safesearch off. The japanese do love to draw those scenes.
Apparently if you throw cucumbers to these things they will leave you alone. What do UFOlogists have to say about ayys and cucumbers?
Lies, only eggplants do the trick.
Even gayer lmao
You're supposed to defeat a Kappa by spilling the water that sits in the basin on top of its skull
Yes. Sort of. The Dung Eater is a soul defiler. The Japanese believe the soul is located in the anus.
>The Japanese believe the soul is located in the anus.
What a weird people
It's located in the stomach. Kappas and the dung eater just suck it out through the anus.
“A Shirikodama is a mythical ball said to contain a person's soul, which is located inside the anus. Kappa sometime take their victim's Shirikodama in order to gain their power.”
same thing
Hahahhahahaha
>looked it up
>it's actually a thing
>According to Japanese folklore, the human soul exists as a small hardened magical ball within the anus known as 'shirikodama' (尻子玉 - literally 'small anus ball'). Tales tell of lake-dwelling monsters known as 'kappa' who try to kill you by 'extracting' your shirikodama if you dare venture into their lake.
My fricking sides.
The things people tell kids to keep them from drowning, man.
Stop laughing at another culture bigot
He does something to "defile" a body after he kills the person, and it seems to involve the anus. As others have noted, it plays into Japanese myths.
And it sounds funny, but his curse actually removes the soul of those he defiles from the circle of reincarnation set up by the residing religion forever. It's perhaps not the worst fate that can be inflicted on someone, but it's up there.
>circle of reincarnation set up by the residing religion
Which is also evil by the way, but probably somewhat preferable to being shitraped.
He eat da poo poo
He did nothing wrong.
He raped millions.
To save billions.
magic makes it nice and pliable, duh
Just shove an onahole between her legs, idiot.
Reductions in Willpower, increases to natural AC and Intellect.
>+ to magic stuff
>- to perception and social stuff
Idk man. Depends on the system. What did you expect us to say?
You mean Eldar Farseers?
>losing their consciousness
>gaining supreme understanding
You're going to have to explain this one to me, chief. Having all the information in the universe does nothing for you if you are a comatose potato.
Magic is a whole frame of reference and set of exotic rules and laws. It's like really fricking dense physics, or formal logic, or the math where you end up seeking a lower Erdos Number.
As your understanding of that frame of reference deepens, you approach a point where you are limited by having your thoughts rooted in the natural frame of reference of being human and experiencing human life. Imagine being someone raised entirely to think about quantum bullshit, somehow deprived of the human frame of reference but ends up socially stunted and unable to function outside of the mathbox; the idea of "you delve so deep into learning about some occult bullshit that you cease to be human" is similar to that but you inflict it on yourself. You're a comatose potato because once you approach 100% understanding of the deep magic, you have to approach 0% understanding of the physical world.
if you lose your brain you wont understand SHIT
Great fricking movie reference
We get it, you just played Elden Ring for the first time.
>too much cosmic understanding is… le bad
Probably.
Is this what happens when you heckin science too much?
No, that just gives you a depression from writing all the grant applications.
Quick rundown on “glintstone” ?
Ganker refugees should be scalped
Games are games, nogames.
you're one to talk with your irrelevant thread that doesn't have anything to do with tabletop games aside from "ummmm heres a epic stealth thread on my video gaym! o-oh tabletop ummm uhhh.... how would it work in your setting guys" fricking homosexual phoneposter, subhuman cur unfit to even lick the shit off my boots
I like inspiration threads 🙂
Corruption points with extra steps
Who are you quoting?
Magic hardens?
That's the Eldar from 40k and the Chaos Dwarfs from Warhammer fantasy. Both are kind of shit. Mechanically it's extremely punishing on a PC. Lore wise it's kind of an afterthought as death or elderly characters are rarely the focus of the plot anyway, so their expiration, whichever form it takes, is meaningless.
>gain understanding
>losing consciousness
These two don't gel for me. I feel like there should be some similarities to lichdom as they shift their interests from mundane/emotional to higher goals. A crystal being might also not need food and water, they might not need to sleep and breathe. And they might only be motivated by acquiring and consuming more knowledge of the arcane. So I would use similar mechanics as I would with a Lich regardless of the system:
>high level spell caster
>immune to stabby stabby/poison/cold and heat but vulnerable to X
>some form of demi-immortality that is tied to a mcguffin
>a lair (of crystalline monsters/contraptions) that they can utilize
>the power to control other beings, including PC, with their mind
>These two don't gel for me
The brain is weak. Upload yourself.
The reality of digital immortality is that they'll just use your online posting history as a basis for a chatbot.
>this is a bad thing
I mean you can buy your data and extract your shitposting yourself already, and then have sex with your own digital clone.
Why wait?
Black mirror knew that was a fricking dumb idea 15 years before chatbots really took off, now we know for sure.
Take Nodes and Dex penalties from 3.5 Forgotten Realms. Nodes are leylines
Take Nodes and Dex penalties from 3.5 Forgotten Realms. Nodes are leylines. The idea would be the longer you stay in one, the longer you crystalize due to being so close to a magical font. The greater the time past, the higher the penalties. Once you reach 0, you're completely. You could do Con instead. The penalty wouldn't count while in the node, but would if you left the area of that particular type of node.
characters have a magic exposure counter that starts at 0. each time they cast a level X spell, they add X to their counter. GM has a secret scale with stages of crystallization that happen overnight once the counter reaches certain thresholds. of course the threshold would have to be very high and the game long enough for this to be meaningful.
The Crystal People get chopped up and smoked by the wizards who aren't quite there yet.
Only failed grandmasters who gaze too far into space get snorted.
I've had this idea where wizards and such, as they learn magic, are physically altered such that their bodies become potent magical components in and of themselves.
Just having the capacity to be recognized as one means you're now in money and selling your blood and body fluids will get you paid easily enough. A finger or an eye can pay off debts or fund most expensive ventures and wizards who make it through life with all their fingers, toes, and eyes in tact are considered to be second only to royalty.
So naturally, a potent underground market for wizard body parts and trade in their corpses would be a major component of the world.
I like when magic is an actual danger, like radiation or mental illness.
>When your Intelligence score is simultaneously both a 99 and a 0
lol
>successfully, mechanically
You mean mechanically, successfully. Also just steal your favorite mechanics from literally any game, tabletop or otherwise, and cram it into whatever dogpiss system you're running. Don't forget to reflavor it of course
Also why are there uterus tattoo designs in this image
Coolest characters in the game
I wish we could fight them.
The crystalization process slightly increases toughness, reduces willpower and perception, and vastly increases intelligence.
I hope we see more of these doods in the dlc
By describing it happening narratively instead of mechanically. Roleplay in and of itself is a mechanic and only works when others buy into the worldbuilding and drawbacks themselves. Play with people who love that type of shit and it'll work with no effort required.
Imagine actually writing a world where the soul is located in the butt lmao
It’s not that far fetched.
I'm sorry master, but I will have to go all out...
Possession takes a whole new meaning. Exorcism too
You can’t even kill these doods in-game, as any damage is magically unregistered, ambiguously implying they are on another level from the player.