The only people who think kingdom hearts has bad writing or structure are people who haven't seen all there is to see yet. All of the stuff in 3 are not ass pulls. They are bad but it is hardly an ass pull when it is stated and explained in the games why it happened.
>The only people who think kingdom hearts has bad writing...
>They are bad but...
The writing itself is good. What he does with the writing is bad. Yes it can be this way.
I like to think larxene and xion are butt naked behind their stupid coats
Yes, generally everyone's butt naked under their clothes.
you nasty bawd
I mean no panties or any kind of underwear
They are naked. Look at those collarbones
>The writing itself is goo
They're still wearing pants.
The writing is bad because it ended decisively at kh2 and everything after drags on for no other reason than making another game.
If it ended with all 3 of them just staring off into the sunset then there would still be alot of things that needed to be explained. The story itself would have to be rewritten to such a degree it wouldn't have been the same story all together for better or worse.
What needed to be explained after kh2s ending?
Xemnas and ansems human being
Maleficent and pete in general
Why the mysterious hooded dude with the teo keyblades was fighting riku
What riku was doing while sora was asleep
> What is the chamber of waking?
> What is the chamber of repose?
> What is Xemnas' connection to these two rooms?
> Why was a suit of armour hidden under Hollow Bastion?
> Who are the masked Knights?
> Who is the lingering wills chosen and what is their connection to Xehanort?
> Why does one of the Knights look like Roxas?
> Who are the old man and the masked boy?
> Why was Mickey at the battle?
and more
>half of these are Final Mix additions to tease the next game
>the other half are the secret ending teasing the next game
...
Why is Larxene so sexual? Isn't Kingdom Hearts an E rated game?
I’m a huge KH game and have played all the games but it really feels like they were just coming up with asspulls as they went along unlike, say, how toby fox had all of deltarune and undertale’s wacky plotshit planned out for the past like 10 years. Pls don’t crucify me for the undertale comparison.
I mean are they asspulls if you plan for them?
But that’s what I’m saying, was any of the xehanort or MoM stuff planned since 1? Or even 2?
I dont see why it wouldnt especially after the confirmation of how popular the series was. Thats what a smart person would do if they had a series that struck gold like it did. Kingdom hearts turned into a flagship series for square so of course there is going to be more of it until nomura kicks the bucket or someone kicks it for him.
Up to I think Kingdom Hearts 2 was conceived after KH1, and then everything else was spur of the moment.
until BBS was planned I'd say, not just until 2
I don't know if BBS was, at least not in its entirety; Lingering Will's design wasn't final when it appeared in KH2.
Nothing was planned during the production of KH1.
It was such a wildcard that they had no idea if it would be successful. Nomura had some ideas for the future but nothing concrete and nothing to plant seeds for when they might never bear fruit.
It's only after that when he started planning ahead. KHII started production almost immediately after KH1, CoM was made during KHII's production.
Then BbS, coded and Days were announced/made at the same time. Plans for BbS started taking shape during vanilla KHII.
Nomura's said before that KHIII's plot at the beginning included both BbS and DDD but the scope was such that he decided to pull it apart into separate games.
χ[chi], on the other hand, was pitched by Nomura as being separate from the main story. Well, 8 years later that's not exactly the case now is it. So it's unclear when that shift was made, especially as he claims he wrote KHIII and χ[chi]'s stories together.
My guess is that partway through, Nomura decided that he would use χ[chi] as a basis for the next saga, and worked in a handful of nods and connections during KHIII's production.
And from here, with a brand-new saga and an established, successful franchise, the way UXDR, Re Mind and MoM are written heavily suggest a lot more forethought and planning on Nomura's part.
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I don't think it has bad writing from an objective standpoint but I do think it has way too many stumbles resulting from retcons, unnecessary story additions, and overall just being written as it goes along. Xion serves zero purpose to the larger plot and is a thinly veiled attempt to try to occupy the same narrative purpose and space as Namine without being constrained to a mansion, the Keyblade becoming a semi-common fixture of the story and plot completely invalidates everything you're told for the first several games and misses the point of Riku being *passed over* for it, and the tragedy of the Nobodies is invalidated by almost all of them getting a second chance at life by having both of their halves killed and reforming into a normal person, to say even less about Nobodies being able to return to normality on their own by "growing" or rediscovering their heart being nonsensical.
the nobody thing irks me the most since it's literally fanfiction AU tier writing but it does open the gate to drop old 1 dimensional characters and introduce new ones that already feel familiar. I get the idea.
KH is a very bad, 2005 deviant art fan fiction with a million dollar budget. If you can play a game where Mickey fricking Mouse dressed in black leather bdsm clothes talks to you about the darkness in peoples hearts and unironically say “yup this is a good game”, you have mental problems and should seek professional help.
yes anon you're the only sane person on Ganker we know
Thanks, i know.
>13 Xehanorts
>good writing
I'll lap up anything Kingdom Hearts Nomura shits out, but I'm not gonna pretend that it's good writing. The writing went to shit at DDD and with the mobile game.
have a nice day, discordgay. You’ll find kids easier to groom elsewhere.
The story is dumb regardless, but even if it were good the way it's told would make it bad. You can have the best story in the world, but at a certain point your method of telling the story makes it garbage. If you're required to not only play games, but play mobile garbage and watch a movie and watch a live orchestra and read the back of a limited edition cereal box then yeah, you're a fricking trash story teller and you've ruined your work.
If its bad then how come i think its good? Checkm8 athiest.
>any significant amount of storyshit in game
Automatically bad. Add in the clumsy as living frick "gameplay" and it's a pile of goddamn shit.
English, please.
I'll translate for you
>i'm a fricking moron
If you can't read that, you're too brain-dead to be here. You just hate that I'm right and are attacking me instead, the typical response of a modern nu-gamer imbecile who doesn't care about actual games.
Holy shit, dude, dial back the irony ten or twenty notches.
why does pluto have an all access pass to the plot, he's fricking everywhere
it's just a prank bro
>expecting yaoi autistic Disney FF rpg to have a good story over 20 years
what does it matter, they're just going to friendship the problems away like usual
>expecting people to remember 300 hours of cutscenes over the span of 20 year console generations
>most plot points are in a gatcha mobile game
>not being able to retain the knowledge you acquire or great spans of time
Read a book you low IQ chimpazoid.
>most
Literally it is a small portion.
homie the series has a bunch of asspulls
Riku quite LITERALLY pulls a Keyblade for Kairi out of his ass, not to mention that he magically transformed Soul Eater into a Keyblade.
And then he pulls out another Keyblade out of his ass in KH3 after Way to the Dawn breaks.
And this is just an example of it - the only thing that gets worse than that in KH is amount of dropped plotlines / twists that never get mentioned ever again.
Kairi gets a keyblade because of her interaction with aqua in bbs
Riku turns soul eater into a keyblade because the keyblade is a reflection of who he is
Yensid makes him the new keyblade
>Kairi gets a keyblade because of her interaction with aqua in bbs
No she doesn't, Riku pulls it out of her ass - all she got from Aqua was getting indirect inheritance of BEING a Keyblade wielder. But she never got a Keyblade.
If she did, she'd make it appear like everyone does, from Sora to Axel - right in her hand, as is being wortly of being a Keyblade wielder.
You don't get your Keyblade from someone pulling it out of his ass and passing it to you, and then suddenly it magically works - it's not a special Keyblade like Eraqus' or Xehanort's that have mumbo jumbo special features by being old as frick (one does shit with Land of Departure, another does whatever Nomura feels like it being able to do)
It's an asspull, and you're trying to cover it pretty badly.