The source of the article is a tweet and it's unclear when the supposed change of heart happened as that tweet was made as a reply to someone else https://twitter.com/Andy_VGC/status/1750459186532528439
>press A button 500 times to be able to actually start playing the game >not even a auto-scroll feature >fast travel system designed by a literal crazy person
both Legends and SV felt like huge breaths of fresh air because of how stale the franchise has been for literal decades but if you play literally any other games at all its impossible not to see them as still underwhelming in design and deeply fricking embarrassing in terms of technical performance. I had more fun playing them than any Pokemon game since Gen 3 but if they didn't have the franchise' charm to prop them up they would be solid 4/10 games
they actually don't have a choice now. If pocketpair got the jump on them on a shoestring budget, it's only a matter of time to see what they can do with actual resources
I mean they always do?
This is why all complains about bw(cosntant cinematic experience, zero exploration, garbage pokemon, no safari), were fixed in xy
and all gen 6 complains were fixed in gen 7
What? X/Y has you going in a circle just like B/W did. Then they made the game even easier. Then S/M came and tuned handholding to the max so you barely even get to play anymore. The franchise is beyond hope. It can only get worse.
>Then S/M came and tuned handholding to the max
Nah, SwSh managed to outdo that with the Eternatus "boss" "fight" that the dogs and Hop can easily win without you using a single move. Game Freak can always find a new way to frick it up.
They never listen because they think their games are good enough for children. Palworld is 10 times better than anything that Gamefreak has ever produced and it is in early acess.
this post is funny because these beliefs will literally tell you you have white/male privilege and are therefore better than everyone else. doesnt matter if a leftie or a rigtie says it. the core is the same.
To be fair, they've started doing that pretty early with Scarlet and Violet at least from the competitive side as they've banned sleep. Nice to know that fans are making headway at least.
At this point, it would be like Yugioh banning Pendulums and the like. The series is just too far evolved to balance around it without banning something.
TCG and comp of the games are entirely different beasts and don't suffer from nearly the same issues. They've essentially done that with Scarlet and Violet as a lot of former sleep inducers have had their movesets redone with their sleep moves taken out.
banning pendulums would be like banning attract as a strategy. Pendulums have never actually been strong, Yugioh players just hate having to learn to play so they get triggered at the sight of them. apparently figuring out what numbers go between 1 and 8 is really hard for the average yugioh player.
Yhea.
It was 100% because of the Compgays. Instead of getting good, these so called "pros" wanted to ban everything.
Same gay shit in all other "E-Sports".
It's stagnant as frick.
Volvo in their infinite wisdom was clamoring to get a slice of the "E-Sports" games, trying to do it with a game that was never designed for it. Fricktards.
There was always only 2 options for TF2, either split and balance seperately, or ignore the compgays. Preferably ignoring the compgays because 6vs6 is booring as frick.
Sleep, Freeze, Paralysis, Confusion, Flinching, and Evasion/Accuracy were always status effects vast majority of people hated (and yeah VirGinCucks too but they weren’t vocal about it because they have to suck it up).
Freeze in earlier gens and Sleep were so bad the playerbase collectively agreed to have mechanic changes on simulators.
I feel like the vast majority of people are just unaware how cancerous stalling and other playstyles can be in Pokemon. If anybody has that Showdown webm, you know the one, that'd be great.
>Bethesda will take fan criticisms to heart for next titles >Bioware will take fan criticisms to heart for next titles
Why do you people keep falling for this
Taking fan criticisms to heart is fricking stupid because this is literally the most popular media franchise on the planet. If you start listening to what the fans say you'll turn into a schizo before the end of the day. What the series needs is a clear creative vision from a competent director that actually likes and cares about the franchise. And nintendo needs to make stronger hardware, but that's another story.
Shitty pokemon can be fixed. You take the concept and design queues and then rework them into a unified artstyle. That pokemon coffee puzzle game manages to make all the pokemon look more or less like they came from the same gen, for example. It would be like taking that treatment a step further.
Do you think they completed nuked their entire build and had to start from scratch? God that would be funny, but I know TPC is too lazy and arrogant to commit to that. They are incapable of real self reflection and improvement.
I dont get it, whats there to even take into account? This shit is the cream of the crop, greatest media franchise ever, what even needs to be improved?
Black person these graphics are even worser than what the GameCube could do.
This is a case of GameFreak not giving a single frick.
Serves Nintroons right for eating the sloppy seconds Gaytendo feeds them with.
>look mom I posted an upscaled screenshot of a shitty gamecube Game that everyone was disappointed by, this proves pokemon sucks.
Autism. No wonder gamefreak hates their fans and doesn't listen to their moronic screeching.
>Has no reading comprehension
We're talking about graphics and calling the pokemon switch graphics "literally worse than the gamecube" with receipts. Also, starfox adventures is the third best zelda game on the gamecube. It really do be "you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like" in game form.
Bdsp is literally the gen 4 games with more bugs and worse art, seriously a lot of the code was found to be copypasted from the DS games. Since it is the same game as DP, it's probably better than most modern Pokemon games
>just include all the Pogeymans >get Sugimori back on character design (Or at least get someone to ape it) >graphics don't have to be AAA tier, but not spazzing out and turning into wireframes when I go to some areas would be nice >keep old features and mechanics when new ones get introduced. It shouldn't be one step forward and a half mile backwards
So they'll delete all the frick ugly Paldea and Galar Pokemon designs, abandon that eyesore sub-Dreamworks aesthetic from SV, and include optional hard mode you don't have to unlock first?
People will buy it no matter what and gays Gere will continue to seethe about it >um ackshually gen 7 sucks because I'm a bitter wageslave now
Why was it a massive success then homosexuals? Lmao
>Palworld so big it sent shockwaves through the fabric of time and caused Game Freak to listen to feedback and do a 180 from Pokemon SuMo almost 10 years go
This is Ganker actually believes.
Why do they even bother?
Unironically even with palworld shit they could put out a mid-game and still outsell the previous generation easy just by being a Pokemon Switch 2 game because pokegays are professional autists with a mental dependency on their toys from the 90s
>Except when they didn't with BW, SuMo and LGPE and every follow-up addressed concerns
but they did sell the same? Every pokemon game after pokemania has basically sold the same? The switch games sold a bit more though.
FFS, I can't even tell if that's a real picture or fan made satire, but if it's real, that tells you everything you need to know about the state of Pokemon
>this has nothing to do with Palworld btw.
Oh, so why not make this thread in fricking /vp/. Keep Pokemon threads out of Ganker. Total death to anyone who makes pokeshit threads in Ganker
Imagine falling so low that bootlegs become a legitimate threat to your empire.
Gamefreak pretty much ran the world back during pokemania, now they have to grovel and beg fans won't leave them for bootlegs.
If the pokemon devs and fans don't fricking 180 with their homosexual opinions and publicly thank palworld for lighting a fire up their fricking asses then they are fricking unengoodeningable
You're a fricking idiot if you think the people actually playing Palworld aren't just the resident Pokegays but then again, some other anon asked for footage of the boxart mon from SV flying and you dumbasses posted the glider like npcs just regurgitating anything fed to you. Serious bot problem when it comes to Ganker.
What are they going to do to counter Palworld? They have nothing bigger to copy from and they're not going to add guns and release it on PC half the price where third world countries can buy it.
multiplayer survival crafting game, basically just make legends arceus but with base building and multiplayer and have mons actually interact with that bases functions (furnaces, waterwheels, charge batteries with electric types ect) would be kino thats why Palworld is so based, I don't even give a frick about the edgy shit just letting the mons do things besides battle is based
>basically just make legends arceus but with base building and multiplayer and have mons actually interact with that bases functions
No fricking thank you. I hope they don't listen to your moronic ass, just go play Palworld fricking idiot.
The fact that this is coming out now tells me the DLC performed badly and they finally realized making dogshit games dors come to bite you in the ass eventually.
Best case scenario is that they'll just bring the National Dex back but you still won't be able to catch previous gen shitters and legendaries like the old games unless they pump DLC for it.
What a coincidence that they decided only now to listen to the fans.
The source of the article is a tweet and it's unclear when the supposed change of heart happened as that tweet was made as a reply to someone else https://twitter.com/Andy_VGC/status/1750459186532528439
Frick these gays they couldnt make a good game even if they wanted to.
The thing is they can make a game but they frick it up by making it run like shit and look like shit.
Realistically they need another Iwata.
Legends Arceus was dope, dumbfrick
Nope it wasn't, homosexual
Yeah catching the same pokemon 20 times was great
Oh boy, will you love pal world then.
>can‘t even change the trainer card pic
soulless and lazy game
it was a step in the right direction but palworld still mogs it
What‘s so good about it?
>press A button 500 times to be able to actually start playing the game
>not even a auto-scroll feature
>fast travel system designed by a literal crazy person
both Legends and SV felt like huge breaths of fresh air because of how stale the franchise has been for literal decades but if you play literally any other games at all its impossible not to see them as still underwhelming in design and deeply fricking embarrassing in terms of technical performance. I had more fun playing them than any Pokemon game since Gen 3 but if they didn't have the franchise' charm to prop them up they would be solid 4/10 games
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that whatever they release this year will be all because of palworld.
Stage 1: Denial
Good. Hopefully that means they will release a finished game that lives up to at least the X/Y gen.
they actually don't have a choice now. If pocketpair got the jump on them on a shoestring budget, it's only a matter of time to see what they can do with actual resources
It won't be pocket pair, but perhaps epic or ubisoft who will follow the trend and release an upgraded version, think fortnite over pubg
What makes people think it was a shoestring budget? Sure, it's not AAA, but they've already had a fairly successful game along the same lines.
I mean they always do?
This is why all complains about bw(cosntant cinematic experience, zero exploration, garbage pokemon, no safari), were fixed in xy
and all gen 6 complains were fixed in gen 7
Why is gen 7 so shit then?
What? X/Y has you going in a circle just like B/W did. Then they made the game even easier. Then S/M came and tuned handholding to the max so you barely even get to play anymore. The franchise is beyond hope. It can only get worse.
>Then S/M came and tuned handholding to the max
Nah, SwSh managed to outdo that with the Eternatus "boss" "fight" that the dogs and Hop can easily win without you using a single move. Game Freak can always find a new way to frick it up.
They never listen because they think their games are good enough for children. Palworld is 10 times better than anything that Gamefreak has ever produced and it is in early acess.
pokemon is for babies
not the best timing for that but eh they always say this
>an actual working game
>not on the SHITCH
>better graphics and optimization
>no troony safe shit
What is a shitch?
something that haunts his schizophrenic mind
shitty underpowered console
there's no console with that name on the market. take your meds.
>shitty underpowered console
Never heard of it, is it made by Sega?
>not on the SHITCH
Explain
pokemon is for babies
SLOPEATERS WON
pokemon is pozzed
>body type A
>body type B
>if i'm not viewed as and treated better than everyone else it's pozzed
okay chud i sympathize with you
this post is funny because these beliefs will literally tell you you have white/male privilege and are therefore better than everyone else. doesnt matter if a leftie or a rigtie says it. the core is the same.
If this is real then I'm sorry for all the shit I said about PALworld.
Yeah fricking right
>pokeslop deleted their ESG page
https://corporate.pokemon.com/en-gb/inclusion-and-social-impact/
https://corporate.pokemon.com/en-us/inclusion/
still up for us bergers
here's the archive
>https://web.archive.org/web/20230203062040/https://corporate.pokemon.com/en-gb/inclusion-and-social-impact/
To be fair, they've started doing that pretty early with Scarlet and Violet at least from the competitive side as they've banned sleep. Nice to know that fans are making headway at least.
>banned sleep
>shitfreak can't even balance their own game mechanics and has to ban them like smogongays
Lmao
At this point, it would be like Yugioh banning Pendulums and the like. The series is just too far evolved to balance around it without banning something.
The difference between a TCG and a video game is you can completely overhaul the mechanics of a video game in between titles.
TCG and comp of the games are entirely different beasts and don't suffer from nearly the same issues. They've essentially done that with Scarlet and Violet as a lot of former sleep inducers have had their movesets redone with their sleep moves taken out.
pendulums are dogshit though people just don't like them because they are WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS but they are all fricking terrible anyway
banning pendulums would be like banning attract as a strategy. Pendulums have never actually been strong, Yugioh players just hate having to learn to play so they get triggered at the sight of them. apparently figuring out what numbers go between 1 and 8 is really hard for the average yugioh player.
>Pendulums have never actually been strong
>forgetting Pepe
>pic related banned in both OCG and TCG
>Monkeyboard stuck at 1 copy
Anon... come on now.
Reminds me of TF2, Compgays got alot of items banned and Volvo just gave up and caved to the Compgays.
and then the shitters on Steam discussions have the balls to say its not even true and that Valve never nerfed shit because of comphomosexuals.
Yhea.
It was 100% because of the Compgays. Instead of getting good, these so called "pros" wanted to ban everything.
Same gay shit in all other "E-Sports".
It's stagnant as frick.
Volvo in their infinite wisdom was clamoring to get a slice of the "E-Sports" games, trying to do it with a game that was never designed for it. Fricktards.
There was always only 2 options for TF2, either split and balance seperately, or ignore the compgays. Preferably ignoring the compgays because 6vs6 is booring as frick.
it was funny seeing the comptards get outed as zero skill homies when the items stopped working kek
>pokemon fans, we hear you!
Sleep, Freeze, Paralysis, Confusion, Flinching, and Evasion/Accuracy were always status effects vast majority of people hated (and yeah VirGinCucks too but they weren’t vocal about it because they have to suck it up).
Freeze in earlier gens and Sleep were so bad the playerbase collectively agreed to have mechanic changes on simulators.
I feel like the vast majority of people are just unaware how cancerous stalling and other playstyles can be in Pokemon. If anybody has that Showdown webm, you know the one, that'd be great.
>Compgays are just the equivalent of the kid with blizzard, hydro pump, mega punch and fissure blastoise and don't use status effects
lolgay.
Yeah I'll believe it when I see it.
>The source is a rando on twitter who heard it from an unspecified source
>Literally "just trust me bro"
THIS is journalism?
The last time they took criticism was back when BW1 released, by that time BW2 was halfway done so it was implemented in X&Y, not a good look.
>This November...
>Pokemon Legends: Meet n' Frick Kingdom
Meet n' HUH
>Underage panty quest will become real with the next installment
Uooohgays are going to be fricking insufferable now
>Bethesda will take fan criticisms to heart for next titles
>Bioware will take fan criticisms to heart for next titles
Why do you people keep falling for this
Taking fan criticisms to heart is fricking stupid because this is literally the most popular media franchise on the planet. If you start listening to what the fans say you'll turn into a schizo before the end of the day. What the series needs is a clear creative vision from a competent director that actually likes and cares about the franchise. And nintendo needs to make stronger hardware, but that's another story.
will not fix the previous shitty generations with shitty pokemons
Shitty pokemon can be fixed. You take the concept and design queues and then rework them into a unified artstyle. That pokemon coffee puzzle game manages to make all the pokemon look more or less like they came from the same gen, for example. It would be like taking that treatment a step further.
THIS IS THE SOURCE BTW
MORE FABRICATED E CELEB """ANALYSIS""" LIES
This is based on one (1) journalist saying "he heard" that the Pokemon Company is taking criticism seriously.
Oh, it's already posted.
Why is he so red?
Skyrim baby grew up
>literal who
american journalism really is something
theyve done jack shit since gen 3 they arent going to change anything when every game sells tens of millions of copies in a month
>saying that now
The fricking nerve.
Do you think they completed nuked their entire build and had to start from scratch? God that would be funny, but I know TPC is too lazy and arrogant to commit to that. They are incapable of real self reflection and improvement.
I dont get it, whats there to even take into account? This shit is the cream of the crop, greatest media franchise ever, what even needs to be improved?
Better hardware could go a long way for one.
Black person these graphics are even worser than what the GameCube could do.
This is a case of GameFreak not giving a single frick.
Serves Nintroons right for eating the sloppy seconds Gaytendo feeds them with.
>these are worse than the N64
>Xenoblade did it better
>but what about BotW
>muh tendies
You gays are bots
Reminder: The gamecube had fricking FUR with individual strands being visible.
>look mom I posted an upscaled screenshot of a shitty gamecube Game that everyone was disappointed by, this proves pokemon sucks.
Autism. No wonder gamefreak hates their fans and doesn't listen to their moronic screeching.
>Has no reading comprehension
We're talking about graphics and calling the pokemon switch graphics "literally worse than the gamecube" with receipts. Also, starfox adventures is the third best zelda game on the gamecube. It really do be "you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like" in game form.
>this is what unironically nintendo golems believe
not hiring trannies and shitskins
Damn I forgot about this game but I heard the added true flying
I thought the point of flying was to go faster.
That's the glider brainlet
They did, you'll have to invert Z axis to make it useful though
I've seen ps1 games that look better than that.
Which of the switch pokemon games is best? Bookoff has the gen 4 remakes super cheap for some reason but no idea if those are any good
S/V easily but they have their issues as I'm sure anybody here will gladly inform you.
Bdsp is literally the gen 4 games with more bugs and worse art, seriously a lot of the code was found to be copypasted from the DS games. Since it is the same game as DP, it's probably better than most modern Pokemon games
funny how all it took was a little competition to light the fire under pokemon's asses
capitalism wins yet again
A little would go a long way.
>just include all the Pogeymans
>get Sugimori back on character design (Or at least get someone to ape it)
>graphics don't have to be AAA tier, but not spazzing out and turning into wireframes when I go to some areas would be nice
>keep old features and mechanics when new ones get introduced. It shouldn't be one step forward and a half mile backwards
So they'll delete all the frick ugly Paldea and Galar Pokemon designs, abandon that eyesore sub-Dreamworks aesthetic from SV, and include optional hard mode you don't have to unlock first?
Paldea's designs are actually pretty good for the most part so I don't know why they'd delete them
>Palesa and Galar designs
>Bad
They should go back to 2D sprites, 3D killed Pokemon.
People will buy it no matter what and gays Gere will continue to seethe about it
>um ackshually gen 7 sucks because I'm a bitter wageslave now
Why was it a massive success then homosexuals? Lmao
>let's hope they mean it
Lol. Lmao even.
>People thinking GayFreak and Nintroondo will do anything in terms of evolving as gamedevs and quality control.
>Palworld so big it sent shockwaves through the fabric of time and caused Game Freak to listen to feedback and do a 180 from Pokemon SuMo almost 10 years go
This is Ganker actually believes.
Why do they even bother?
Unironically even with palworld shit they could put out a mid-game and still outsell the previous generation easy just by being a Pokemon Switch 2 game because pokegays are professional autists with a mental dependency on their toys from the 90s
>Pokemon will sell the same anyway
>Except when they didn't with BW, SuMo and LGPE and every follow-up addressed concerns
>Except when they didn't with BW, SuMo and LGPE and every follow-up addressed concerns
but they did sell the same? Every pokemon game after pokemania has basically sold the same? The switch games sold a bit more though.
>but they did sell the same?
>16 and 24 are the same
Stop.
every new gen after GS hovers around 17-15m until SWSH the games you claim didn't sell the same (BW, SuMo, LGPE) All sold 15, 16, and 15m
>until SWSH the games you claim didn't sell the same
24 is the same as 16?
ok so you're moronic thanks
>Switch
>not a console
new tendie cope just dropped
PalGOD really mindbroke them hard
FFS, I can't even tell if that's a real picture or fan made satire, but if it's real, that tells you everything you need to know about the state of Pokemon
>this has nothing to do with Palworld btw.
Oh, so why not make this thread in fricking /vp/. Keep Pokemon threads out of Ganker. Total death to anyone who makes pokeshit threads in Ganker
They said that the last time too.
Imagine falling so low that bootlegs become a legitimate threat to your empire.
Gamefreak pretty much ran the world back during pokemania, now they have to grovel and beg fans won't leave them for bootlegs.
You could have posted this back in the Yokai Watch days and look what happened there.
I doubt it
It's beyond the current staff to fix the issues of the series
They'd have to borrow staff from other games
If the pokemon devs and fans don't fricking 180 with their homosexual opinions and publicly thank palworld for lighting a fire up their fricking asses then they are fricking unengoodeningable
palworld was the best thing to happen to pokemon
You're a fricking idiot if you think the people actually playing Palworld aren't just the resident Pokegays but then again, some other anon asked for footage of the boxart mon from SV flying and you dumbasses posted the glider like npcs just regurgitating anything fed to you. Serious bot problem when it comes to Ganker.
What are they going to do to counter Palworld? They have nothing bigger to copy from and they're not going to add guns and release it on PC half the price where third world countries can buy it.
Literally all they have to do is make a more mature Pokemon setting
Because that worked so well for Gamecube games.
They made one for the Gamecube and it's still a fan favorite to this day despite being a balanced nightmare.
multiplayer survival crafting game, basically just make legends arceus but with base building and multiplayer and have mons actually interact with that bases functions (furnaces, waterwheels, charge batteries with electric types ect) would be kino thats why Palworld is so based, I don't even give a frick about the edgy shit just letting the mons do things besides battle is based
>basically just make legends arceus but with base building and multiplayer and have mons actually interact with that bases functions
No fricking thank you. I hope they don't listen to your moronic ass, just go play Palworld fricking idiot.
ok suck my ass moron
The fact that this is coming out now tells me the DLC performed badly and they finally realized making dogshit games dors come to bite you in the ass eventually.
>Game Freak doesn't even care about it!
AIIEEEEEEEEEEE POKESISTERS
We lost one of our COPES!
What we going to do about it!?!?!
TPC is not Game Freak.
It's wild that people think Game Freak are actually competent enough to make a good game in current year.
>this time it will be different, they learned from their mistakes
There you go
Lmfao
No they won't
Best case scenario is that they'll just bring the National Dex back but you still won't be able to catch previous gen shitters and legendaries like the old games unless they pump DLC for it.
>an AI generated article posting AI generated advertising on Ganker woth AI generated posts
What the frick
Secret bases are making a comeback, baby!