The redesigned Nuka Cola bottles from Fallout 4 were a dumb concept. Those little stabilizer fins would prevent the bottle from being able to roll down a factory line which is the entire reason that a bottle is round, not to mention that the bottles would be a lot more prone to chip or shatter during shipping. Nuka Cola is literally just supposed to be Coke but Bethesda had to get all extra clever about it to show off how Creation Engine could do slightly more polygons than Gamebryo.
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Wouldn’t they just have different ways of manufacturing the bottles
What an unhinged complaint
Be easy on him, he just watched How It's Made
Its a video game and the bottles look cool. Chill out.
Kek. I love that show.
>Design is dumb because it's not conducive to 19th century production techniques
Does Ganker really?
what exactly IS nuka cola? How does it differ from the normal cola?
old-style coca leaf recipe with added radioactive particles to give it that extra tingle.
FFS, Quantum glows and is apparently using some kind of super particle that can be weaponised.
>with added radioactive particles to give it that extra tingle.
i believe it was only quantum that had this
You're right, my bad. Quantum has strontium-90 in it and is a byproduct of Nuka Cola doing military research into chemical weaponry.
Regular Nuka Cola just has a ludicrous amount of caffeine, 120% of the recommended daily allowance of sugar, 'vitamins', 'minerals', 'health tonics' and a bunch of 'natural flavorings' that make it highly addictive.
has radioactive isotopes in it
also more adictive than normal cola
Cocaine
>opens pip-boy
>hears this playing
>walks up to Buddy
>grabs an Ice Cold Nuka Cola
>drinks it
the fins could double as gears that fit into a slotted conveyance system
Okay.
/vt/anon, are you lost?
has Amazon started selling nuka cola yet?
Considering how that went last time?
No way
i like its size and color
It's obviously made of unbreakable nuclear-enhanced glass, so your arguments are stupid.
I think the fins are cute but the overall shape is ugly and pear shaped. Doesn't look refreshing at all
Also, there's something about finding a Nuka-Cola Quantum in Fallout 3 (and New Vegas) that sparks something Fallout 4 doesn't...
Well yeah it's limited
This vacuous and skin deep change is indicative of everything wrong with Bethesda Fallout. Look at how unwieldly the bottle looks, at how much superfluous additions they made to all of nuka cola. It doesn't make sense on a mass production scale and it was better before they stepped in, but same could be said about all of Bethesda lore.
I kinda agree that Bethesda is shallow but I don't think a cola bottle design is indicative of everything wrong with them...
also
>vacuous
>superfluous
These words make you sound like a jackass btw
I'm saying that they seem to change everything that was perfectly fine before. Super mutants, ghouls, Brotherhood of Steel and the fricking Nuka cola.
Also
This time I've put it in smaller words for you.
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I like seeing new designs, and they did a great job with FO4 overall
>using words as intended is bad
Just say you never cleared high school.
its a timeline where the world nuked itself and was nuclearpunk they werent making efficient decisions stop being an autist
>Those little stabilizer fins would prevent the bottle from being able to roll down a factory line which is the entire reason that a bottle is round, not to mention that the bottles would be a lot more prone to chip or shatter during shipping.
You'd also be able to ship way fewer per shipment, since they take up way more empty space thanks to the fins. It may not seem like much per bottle, but when you're running a big corporation shipping hundreds of thousands of these per day, that shit matters.
But Fallout isn't something you should take seriously, as has been established repeatedly.
I'm pretty sure bottles are cylindrical to ease stacking and provide improved pressure resistance, same as cans
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Rolling them around the manufacturing plant sounds like a good way to end up with a lot of shattered glass
The point about the widened footprint for no benefit is true thougheverbeit
I don't care if there's practicality or production concerns, I want cube cans of soda.
There's something aesthetically pleasing about a simple, honest cube, versus an ugly, "ergonomic", overly engineered cylinder.
Anon I love your autism
It's the best
While everyone else over the years complains about story, lore, or gameplay, you come in like a true king and speak facts about bottle manufacturing
I hope you have a fantastic life, not just a good day/night
I wish you everlasting happiness
forced autism is not autism
>forced autism
The frick is that? Is it like that 'forced animation' meme from Ganker?
you can add the decorations to the bottle afterwards
>you can add the decorations to the bottle afterwards
lolno. Do you not remember the real Nuka Dark, which was just a shitty small plastic bottle in a shitty plastic shell? I'd rather take a stylised glass bottle than shit like that.
Melting 3 small pieces of glass to a generic coke bottle is...............LE IMPOSSIBLE
How much does this champagne cost and how many bottles are produced annually?
>ESL
>Low IQ
say no more champ. you are not autistic or smart just INCREDIBLY STUPID
cease this conversation and go back to the factory line juan
I accept your reluctant concession.
>500 dollar of alcohol is the same as coca cola but not actually coca cola
>The packaging of Nuka Dark Rum was a design that was months in the making and we went to great lengths to ensure that no corners were cut. It cost over 2X what it would have if we would have simply cast a glass mold. We went through many prototypes. In fact, in all, we had four different iterations of the design, two of which were glass exteriors. We determined that a glass bottle alone would not have been dramatic enough for the look we wanted. We wanted something big and bold for the loyal Fallout fanbase – something that honored the game. Over 100 hours were spent just writing the code to create the 3D-printed prototype of the shells. The “bottle cap” which is actually an integrated cork/cap, was engineered and re-engineered several times to ensure it fit on the bottle in a manner that looked exactly the way it is supposed to inside of a cork finished bottle (not a screw cap). A design created, specifically, for rum. The idea was that the bottle was housed in a “vault of its own.”
lmao. It never fails to make me laugh at the shit they tried to pass off as a 'premium product'.
>100+ hours for making a bottle shape
Typical Bethesda.
Wasn't even BethSoft, it was the rum company (Silver Screen Bottling) who they licensed out to do it.
It was around the same time as the canvas bag as well, so Pete Hines did what he did best and just ignored everything about the situation.
I'm pretty sure shit like this is why Pete Hines departed almost as soon as Bethesda was sold to Microsoft. The guy was a PR manager and yet he himself was a walking PR disaster. That's like putting Gob Bluth from Arrested Development in charge of PR.
Congratulations, moron. You're the idiot Grant Morrison was referencing.
And this is why children stories suck, and why good writers are rare
>Continues to take fiction literally.
Are you also one of those speds that was asking how Sandworms move their massive bodies through the sand so fast? lol
"Adult" stories are SUPPOSED to be immersive though, that's the difference. Usually at least, anyway.
Super powers are meant to just be believed, sure, but random practical things should make some sense to keep the viewer immersed. Like if a revolver fired 13 times in a row in a movie without reloading, you're probably going to think, "This feels silly".
>This feels silly
So, basically everything in anime ever.
Anime isn't usually written to be taken seriously, it's not much of a step-up from children's content tbqh
>bright colors
>loud noises
>BOOBS and EXCITEMENT!
It's dopamine farming slop most of the time
>"Adult" stories are SUPPOSED to be immersive though, that's the difference. Usually at least, anyway.
Have you seen the slop most normies watch? They're only 'immersive' if you turn off your brain.
I assume by "normies" you mean the majority 20-something year olds that consume the slop, they're all manchildren.
That and soap operas. I don't know how those shows manage to get as many views as they do.
a good writer can make a good story of batman working on the Batmobile, and they did, washing away criticism over "its a kids show don't think too much" is by far the dumbest argument anyone can make, especially coming from a writer
His point flew so far over your dumbass head that its going to get shot down as it flies over Israel.
Good writers move a narrative forward without bogging it down on worthless bullet points. Addressing irrelevant issues to comfort pedantic pseudo-intellectuals would constitute an entire new level of bad writing that panders to the worst of consumers.
Good writers also don't incorporate extraneous illogical details that beg the question in the first place, though. I would never wonder about the batmobile's tires being pumped if you didn't explicitly mention that they were deflated during the last scene. Nobody would wonder about the nuka cola design if the bottles didn't explicitly have fins that seem counterproductive to mass manufacture and distribution.
A good writer doesn't waste time addressing pointless issues not because "it doesn't matter", it's because a good writer isn't going to write shit full of issues un the first place. No, genre fiction slop writers are not "good writers".
>a good writer can make a good story of batman working on the Batmobile
It actually did happen too there's an entire episode of the animated series about who works on the batmobile.
>Morrison uses singular they pronouns.[119][120][121] In a 2020 interview with Mondo2000, Morrison mentioned that they "had been non-binary, cross-dressing, 'gender queer'", from the age of 10 years old but didn't have the vocabulary to describe how they felt at the time.[122] Speaking later of the article, Morrison said that they hated being perceived as only recently coming out: "I'm 62 years old—I had my sexuality shit figured out a long time ago!"[119]
Disregard homosexual opinions
>However, they do not mind being referred to with he/him pronouns.
Nevermind, he's just a gay wannabe.
why have a story at all then if it's all made up bullshit that doesn't matter?
just show some pretty lights and make random noises then ask for money.
This coming from the very person that went to give impossible explanations to the bizarre shit of the silver age. Practice what you preach much?
Morrison is a fricking capeshit writer and artist the lowest of the low and not someone anybody should be respecting
>Grant Morrison MBE (born 31 January 1960)[1] is a Scottish comic book writer, screenwriter, and producer. Morrison has written extensively for the American comic book publisher DC Comics
Imagine taking setiously the words of someone who makes mental poison for soifacing subhumans. Imagine holding him as an authority on any topic other than how to perform non-surgical lobotomies.
batman could pump his tires
or Alfred probably
>adult fiction
>like superman and batman
lmao
>But you give an adult fiction
He doesn't mean adult fiction, he means giving an adult some fiction
Forgive him. Despite english being his only language he is ESL
Fallout is a moronic setting in the first place, so I don't care how illogical they make the details when it already made no sense.
This is just more evidence that the franchise as a whole is trash undeserving of attention; nobody involved gave it any attention either.
not my problem
I like the classic literally just a coke bottle bottle, but I also like the dumb rockets.
Bethesda fallouts are dogshit, news at eleven
Sorry I don't listen to opinions of comic book writers. If they were clever their industry wouldn't be dead and gay.
Wow you losers will be outraged by anything lol. Get a life. You're posting about imaginary soda bottles on an anime imageboard lmao
Of all the ridiculous, nonsensical things to complain about in Fallout, THIS is what you chose to be autistic over? Unironically, touch grass.
>Bethesda had to get all extra clever about it to show off how Creation Engine could do slightly more polygons than Gamebryo.
Creation Engine IS Gamebryo engine.
It's just very slightly modified.
Having "Nuka Cola" is as absurdly moronic as if we had "COVID Cola"
wtf have i been drinking then?
OH SHI-
Anon, there was a time when human ignorance and ingenuity made us belive that drinking radioactive isotopes would give you their energy
Food is just chemical energy, so why not just skip straight to the point and consume raw radioactive energy like a man?
Pussies
Half of americans currently believe drinking bleach cures disease so what has really changed.
I drink bleach daily and have yet to catch the coof.
I mean technically they would transfer energy to your body.
>Drinking
Radium was all the rage back them, they didn't just drink it, you had anything from radium chocolate to radium makeup or underwear, all because some dumbass went
>SHIEEEEET DIS PAINT GLOWING YO
And thought humans could somehow harness the power of radiations, then when people started dying and getting horrifying tumors things changed
explain mugs then
BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK
UH OH GUYS LE WHISKEY DOESNT LE ROTATE ON LE FACTORY LINE
OH LE NO
NO HEKKING WAY
see
Quite a lot. But if you don't understand a simple concept as
then you sure as hell don't understand how easy it is to melt 3 pieces of glass into a bottle.
Protecting and bootlicking companies zoomies. What a fricking nightmare.
Found the perfect bottle for you homosexual, wont roll down a factory line but it will roll down your throat.
"quite a lot" isn't a number. You're equating the manufacturing and bottling process of mass production sugar water with top shelf liquor. Coca-Cola, with more than 500 brands, sells more than 100 billion plastic bottles every year and the manufacturing process with its simple bottles ensures that you can buy a half liter of the product for less than a dollar.
That's 100 billion bottles at less than a dollar per 16.9 fl oz. Now give me the numbers for the bottles you posted and tell me if the coke business would be sustainable at those numbers.
remember when people paid $120 dollars in pre-covid money to buy an "authentic fallout drink" and ended up with a plastic bottle from walmart? lmao lol
hahahahhahahahahah
don't they just blow the glass inside of a mold?
Yeah, delving too hard into the rocket iconography. I feel like that's FO4's problem in general. It's not a huge problem but I don't enjoy it.
>points this out and not the stupidass looking guns
Or the fact that the vending machine can hold only 6 bottles and some Black person could just take all of it.
I think the oddest thing in 4 to me was their obsession with not needing a menu to loot. Once you notice it you see the consequences of that decision everywhere.
what consequences? the quick loot thing is great, even got a mod that do the same for FNV
That's one of the best things Fallout 4 did though.
It actually feels like you're scavenging in a post nuclear world.
Yeah the design is awful, but its a classic trademark of Bethesda to make awful decisions/designs.
Looking forward to when they go under and nobody buys ES6 after the disaster that was Starfield.
may THY bottle chip and shatter
Can't you visit a bottling plant in FO4? What's it look like?
bethesda sucks but expecting plausible product design from a videogame is a moronic take the same level as wondering who inflates the batmobile tires - nobody does its a fricking comic
>who inflates the batmobile
Alfred, you dolt
>who inflates the batmobile tires
the flatman
okay I chuckled.
This is the first thread in the catalog so I’m going to say MHW is my favorite game because I put a lot of hours into it. And my favorite snack is oatmeal cream pie.
why do you care
>Why don’t they look like coke bottle anymore?
Because coke sued them because of that bottle shape. I forget the details, but they were changed because they had to, it wasn’t some brainwave from Todd. Coke was hitting them with some kind of infringement lawsuit.
>it wasn’t some brainwave from Todd. Coke was hitting them with some kind of infringement lawsuit.
I don't believe you.
>I forget the details
Coke was butthurt and threatened to sue, that's why they changed the design entirely (although I still think they look dumb too)
sauce?
I got the sauce right here for ya *unzips dick*
aw anon it's so small