The Rise of PlayStation (LEL)

The cope about DLSS has already started, if you spend enough time watching ANY gaming related video on youtube, a video titled "Is dlss REALLY better than native performance?" will show up in your recommendations. The thumbnail will tell you all you need to know about its purpose

Probably 720p handheld/1080p targeted docked, same as now, though I could see Switch 2 shooting for something like 1440p DLSS when docked. 720p is plenty sufficient for a handheld, you can especially see that performance goal with the Steam Deck (800p) and the smarter of the emulation handhelds from chinks like Retroid that target 480p to 720p due to the small screen size.

>that anon's
lmao
>complaints about the Switch ecosystem
what complaints moron? nintendo announced the switch's account will be definitive one from now on, they can't have retrocompatibility between different medias like the wiiu and the switch and the "emulation" scene for the switch is 100% used for piracy so of fricking course they will try to end it, as they are just another corporation

I wonder if Sony will ever get sued for lying about 8k?

Xbawks is an even worse cancer than Snoy

MS is doing early access for their first starfield while Sony are still too stupid to learn that.

>Microtransactions
that was valve actually

horse armor was DLC. valve was the one to popularize the lootbox format and microtransactions in general

At least the Hats didn't affect gameplay and you make your own.

very true

>a DLC microtransaction
I was under the impression that you just buy the armor and receives it. I only consider it a mtx if you can buy it multiple times for a chance to get what you want or when you buy some sort of in game currency to access something easier. this is why I don't consider that MH has mtx

fun fact DLC originally stood for Disc Locked Content to make fun of the idea as well as point out how everything used to be on the disc instead of downloaded.

Yes, yes it did.
DownLoad isn't exactly two words you know.

Hence why it used to be add on content.
Then Disc Locked Content to make a mockery of it.
Then DownLoadable Content

and technically down and load are two words

No, while down and load are two words download is one. There are many words like that like upsurge, railroad, toothbrush and so on. They're called compound words.

At least the Hats didn't affect gameplay and you make your own.

>And then production cost goes to Sony music and Sony pic
wut?

And then production cost goes to Sony music and Sony pic. In the end, Sony is making movies rather than games, right?

You can technically do that till investors ask for your head.

Well basically the exclusivity windows means the game can come out any time after that. That's all it means
>I can see ff16 pc port arrive by the end of this year.
Yeah, probably. It depends on the studio and what else they have on their plate for their devs to spend man-hours on.
CBU3 is busy as the biggest profit drive at Square. CBU1 will likely be busy with some DLC for Rebirth right now, so we are unlikely to hear about a port until that's out, even if the exclusivity window ends in May
But, the basic takeaway is that things are coming to PC sooner and sooner because it turns out the PS5 audience is literally just not big enough to sustain AAA game costs by itself, while the PC audience is pretty stable and doesn't really shrink when new GPU hardware comes out
the biggest hurdle to PC ports of console games right now is over-optimization for a specific SKU. Elden Ring suffered a bit from this when it became clear that PS4 was the target SKU and literally anything more powerful than that would see heavy diminishing returns on that power in terms of performance, because the game was conceived to run on the CUs and architecture of a PS4.
Also with FF7 Remake: it barely had any new graphical options and it ran best on hardware resembling a PS4 Pro, with little to no enhancements to be seen for more powerful tech.

>For number of desktop pcgays, it isn’t.
It is, the Steam MAU hasn't ever had any major shrinking
>Because pcgays aren’t important for them.
They're very important when your big AAA new flagship title sold only 3 million units
The basic issue is they need to find a larger audience for these games because
>Current console market size for Playstation and Xbox is stagnant (zoomers and Gen Alpha are on phones and laptop more than console)
>current Switch isn't powerful enough for AAA games
so the best place for them to find more potential buyers right now is PC.

Well remember that that chart shows CUMULATIVE operating profit
So the total operating profit they've had over the years. During the Wii U years, it dips a bit because Nintendo had a net loss for a few years here and there

Sounds like you are moronic.
Nintendo is in the market of children and family entertainment. Sony and MS are in the market of adult entertainment.
The latter 2 are in one market and nintendo in another.
Phablet phones were not really used for gaming outside of generic games at the height on the DS, where now they are a significant platform, in so much that nintendo has completely dropped out of the handheld gaming market because of them, and even used their IPs on them.
Nintendo are not in a habit of having their IPs on competing hardware!

Unless nintendo jumped in the phone market, which I doubt very much they would ever do as it is a horrible market (looks like sony may drop out of that market soon) I doubt we will ever see a dedicated handheld gaming device again.
The switch is a consolidation of both markets, and while the switch is selling great, if you use the logic of the 2 markets consolidate the actual sales figures of the switch is not so impressive.

Then as for what you are saying for japan. The thing is japanese people generally slave away their entire life, they are at work, travelling to and from or mandatory hanging out with coworkers 60-100 hours a week. Of course the majority of people are going to purchase the console that is handheld, portable.

Japan is not even sonys biggest market or even the one they focus on. iirc PS4 (or PS5) launched in japan later than other regions, like US and EU.

>Nintendo is in the market of children and family entertainment. Sony and MS are in the market of adult entertainment.
Nintendo is in the market of selling software and hardware. Sony and MS are in the market of 3rd party skimming and subscriptions. The frick are you talking about "adult entertainment" bullshit neither Microsoft, Sony, or Valve make video games. The make host platforms.

Sony has pretty much never made in-house 1st party games for their consoles. They just bought up studios who were making good shit and either forced them to make slop or just stopped producing their good games altogether. It's clear they hate video games and this has been an operation to stop Nintendo from being so successful they could potentially produce forms of digital entertainment replacing traditional movie entertainment (Sony owns a lot of hollywood)

>Nintendo is in the market of children and family entertainment. Sony and MS are in the market of adult entertainment.
>Sony and MS gamers want mature games for a mature gamers
For what it's worth, you're half right. Sony and MS did end up pivoting and targeting the teenage + young adult audience almost exclusivity around the 7th gen.
But Nintendo makes games for everyone, that anyone can enjoy. The irony is that Xbox and Playstation have basically had the same audience for almost 20 years that have only gotten older. Nintendo, meanwhile, has managed to appeal to the entire age range, creating titles that both their adult fans and kid/teenage newcomers can enjoy. I know that sounds corporate ad speak but the reality is that that's why they're able to sell 140 million Switch units but still have the median age of their consumers be 18-25 year olds.
The biggest issue for Xbox and Playstation is they've basically failed to bring in any new blood into their audience because
>they rely too heavily on 3rd party games to justify their consoles (in an age where the biggest games are on both phones and consoles)
>they targeted the young adult audience too hard 20 years ago and are stuck with the same people buying the same consoles
You may not like it but Nintendo's shift in strategy doesn't mean they stopped competing with Xbox and Playstation. It just meant that they curbstomped them so hard that they locked them out of the next generation of gamers entirely.

>Nintendo's shift in strategy doesn't mean they stopped competing with Xbox and Playstation
WTF dont you understand, they are in a completely different market. How much do I need to fricking spell it out to you...
There are 2 markets, MS and sony are in the same 1, nintendo in another.
Stop being a fricking moron, you have access to the internet at your fingertips.

As for Nintendos shift, they basically didn't make a shift, they have always catered to family and children entertainment.
The difference being with sony specifically, as you are explaining, their fans/demographics have grown up.
PS1 they marketed to YAs, and have never really marketed to family or children outside of select games. Now they market directly to adults.
Nintendo still marketing to family and children.

The reason nintendo will have such a fanbase is because as an adult, which console are you more likely to buy for your children growing up.
the one that has no Black person, no troonys, no murder, sex, gore and drugs, or the console that has all of that?!
So all these people grew up with nintendo...as most of us did.
(I grew up as an idort)
As you probably know and see here often for some morons (a lot of people) brand identity, brand loyalty are like religious cult worship, some nintendo fans, or sony and xbox fans are fans for life.

>You keep saying this but that doesn't make it true
>You and I remember the PS1 era of Sony 1st-party output very differently
Yeah you were clearly not even born to remember all the family friendly sexual innuendo magazine adverts and surrealist TV ads
>The PS5 won't sell more than 100 mil because everyone is just upgrading from their PS4. And a non-insignificant portion of PS4 owners are just going to drop off from gaming in general
We got a clairvoyant moron who doesnt even understand trading markets here guys...he can tell the future.

Because you are moron, you dont understand that a few years ago their was this thing called a pandemic, and the new consoles released during said pandemic, and said pandemic harmed the supply chain of consoles, and because of that the devs have been forced to make their games readily available for the previous gen consoles well into the life cycle of this gen and because of that it has harmed the gen transfer, and because of that the devs are continuing to develop for the last gen console as a vicious cycle, harming the market
>Nooooo its that all these gamers have stopped gaming
Fricking spastic
Nintendo already lost the gen despite consolidating both markets, you are a fricking idiot.
Numbers here

>Nintendo has sold as many consoles as Sony and MS combined since Wii/DS
>consolidate 2 markets
>both markets that they have an unchallenged market cap in
>hurrrr durrr nintendo sold more consoles

Also you are moronic, numbers in millions:
>PS4 117
>PS5 50
>nintendo switch 139
>WiiU 13.5
Nintendo has not even sold as many consoles as sony, let alone sony and MS combined.

>wins the generation by a landslide
Firstly nintendo consolidated 2 markets you moron
Look at the numbers

>coping this hard

Estimate general % of nintendo handheld sales inflating the console sales. This is in no way a plus for nintendo either who would have been double dipping with customers if not consolidating markets.
Secondly nintendo has broken from the gen cycle because of their previous failure, the switch was competing against the PS4...and PS5, its in its own category.
Its lost on those figures alone.
Thirdly this current gen has been massively harmed by the pandemic, as well as if you want to count the switch vs PS5, nintendo has 3 years+ on sales...at the end of its life cycle and PS5 only being less than halfway through (on moores law) which because of the pandemic and diminishing returns I would expect this gen to last longer than any before.

What you dont understand is that switch are essentially portable toys that are bought for children, a PS console is a home entertainment unit needing a TV to play, generally households will only have 1, where a switch, a household may have 1 per family member, like all nintendo handhelds before.
Again this is no way a plus for nintendo, and a massive increase in inflated sales vs the other market.
Its not even a correct comparison to begin with.

According to SIE internal surveys, almost half of PlayStation 5 owners in the United States also own a Nintendo Switch, while less than 20% of PlayStation 5 owners in the United States also own an Xbox Series X or S."
> https://www.vgchartz.com/article/457680/sony-believes-nearly-half-of-ps5-owners-in-the-us-also-have-a-switch

>almost half of PlayStation 5 owners in the United States also own a Nintendo Switch
That tracks, given that the Switch is purchased for its 1st party exclusives more than for playing 3rd party titles

>No, sony didnt consolidate the markets you moron, they abandoned the handheld market.
Then how are you defining 'consolidation' vs 'abandoning'
The only consolidation that Nintendo did with the Switch was their software teams now targeting one platform instead of 2. Same as Sony after they dropped the Vita

>make your console able to be played on TV like a home console, or portable like a handheld
>how did they consolidate the 2 markets
Jesus christ, are people really this fricking moronic

>how did they consolidate the 2 markets
You can stream your playstation to your phone, does that make it a portable like a handheld?

>no games scheduled to release in 2024

It's not even second party, Sony just moneyhatted a timed exclusivity deal.

>its another shitty souls clone

The nintendo salt on this board explored as soon as these pics were leaked LMAO

>This is in no way a plus for nintendo either who would have been double dipping with customers if not consolidating markets.
Switch is more profitable than Wii and DS combined.
Nintendo's approach sure beat Sony discarding the handheld market resulting in those people going to Nintendo

>here's proof Sony is working with progressively worse and worse margins, and thusly having a rough time in the market
>why do I care I only care about the market
Third worlders are funny. Also what's up with the reddit spacing.

He literally provided you with profit margins, you macaco. Go back to your beloved platform where they don't mock you for being a pathetic moron out of pity.

>WTF would I care about profits of a multinational corporation?
Because your argument was how it was worse for Nintendo than having two concurrent systems? It was never about you, you were talking about the company.
>The argument at hand is to counter morons who somehow think sony is existing the console market and all gamers are becoming nintendo players
No one said all gamers are Nintendo players, well, except Sonygays who call everyone tendies. Anyway, Sony pretty much is giving up the console space by going multiplat, hell they were barely in gaming in general after 2013.

>What does that have to do with anything?
>insinuates that sony marketed to children
>cannot even remember their marketing

>What is crash bandicoot
>What is Spyro
Some of the most beloved scrimblos come directly from the PS1.

>Nintendo already lost the gen despite consolidating both markets, you are a fricking idiot.
You realize that the overlap between Nintendo handheld and Nintendo console was pretty high, right? Like, if you combine the SFC and Gameboy numbers, that doesn't represent 114 million unique customers.
I wouldn't be surprised if literally every household that had a Wii also had at least one Nintendo DS
If you want a conservative sense of marketshare, you take the largest number between handheld and console LTD. You don't combine them, you fricking moron
Just because I buy a PS3 AND a PSP does not mean the Playstation marketshare increased by two customers

>The point is that these nindendo brand loyalty homosexuals who are exclaiming the switch is a massive success are completely ignoring the fact that nintendo has lost a complete market and have had to consolidate and because of it, that is what is inflating the sales figures of the switch.
They didn't lose a market, switch is a hybrid. They stole 80 million former PSP/Vita gamers from Sony's market that Sony lost.

>No but they are different markets.
Again, you keep saying this but it's not true
Game devices are sold and the owner/manufacturer makes money on the games sold (either through licensing fees or from making them directly)
When people talk about markets, they talk about consumer spending.
Consumers don't discriminate between the money they spend on Nintendo games vs other games
>That is like trying to combine apples and bread as a same market because they are food.
They are, you moron. While not all produce and products are the same, most families have a groceries budget that combines the cost of apples and bread. If bread becomes too expensive, a family may cut back on buying apples (provided they prioritize bread more) or substitute out bread altogether and just buy more apples (or other calorie-rich foods) for their sustenance
The example you chose literally has two foods that (at least theoretically) compete for people's money

Dude this is just plain embarrassing, just post hand and let's get it over with. You're literally too dumb to be taught a basic concept like consumer spending.

Silence macaco, nobody cares about what you think.

Sony only took the hit because of the initial price and them being idiots.
PS1 smashed it in sales because of teh cheap price, which in turn made it have the better game base.
PS2 because of the DVD player and fanbase from the PS1...
PS3 they were too wienery and fricked up the initial price.
Its not hard to see how that 1 frick up can ruin a console, just look at MS xbone, they ruined it at E3 and the brand has never recovered, probably never will.

Nintendo has sold as many consoles as Sony and MS combined since Wii/DS

Sony consolidated movies and video games into one medium, and it sucks shit, so what's your point

>coping this hard

>What is this supposed to point out?
That Nintendo has sold as many consoles as MS and Sony combined since Wii/DS era.

>maths
>s
>frog
Non white confirmed

even recognize its a defined world
Hahaha holy shit dude, you could try not outing yourself as a thirdie in your epic ownage posts. Nice selfie, btw. And it's not "its", that's possessive, it is "it's".

>Call out others for policing your grammar
>Make multiple mistakes in your post where you do so
I had to point it out. The hypocrisy was too strong.

fricking too moronic
You might wanna double check your sentence structure thirdie.
I'll point out your shitty grammar as long as I wish, solely because it makes you mad, because I enjoy seeing you seethe, newbie.

Nobody born in a first world country says "maths". It's math. Speak white, subhuman frog homosexual

You're saying every possible combination of buzzwords to elicit a response from me. Lol.

>its a defined world
shiet

>Zelda didn't outsell multiple other AAA games combined
Ok

>THat's why PS is "content king"
*also on Xbox and Windows PC

Must not be. 0 copies sold on either.

And yet all of those games are vastly superior to Hogwarts and Jedi Survivor.
Elden Ring is all you're left with and most of the sales came from PC and not PlayStation.

40% of Elden Ring sales were on PC. If you UNITE the two PlayStations it sold better, but they're different consoles, so you can't. And your cope falls flat.

>Hell all the souls games do which is why the exclusives ones always flop on PlayStation.
False, they have better retention on PC but the PS version always were slighly ahead on total sales, it's the Xbox versions that weren't even 30% of the PC sales and flopped hard.
And the recent leaks have shown that BB sold 7M, shatering the 2M numbers that trolls like you spammed 24/7, only DeS flopped because nobody cared about FROM back then.

Bloodbone outsold every single Metroid game ever by nearly x2 and you're upset about this. 🙂

>ER sold better in PS4/5 than PC.
no it didn't
>Dead Space
the remaster is on the switch
>removed hogwarts legacy from his list after people mentioned it's on the switch
kek

No, the only real numbers out ther were the 2M launch numbers that everyone took as "fact" and called it a flop. Never heard about this 16M rumor but it's obviously bullshit becaise that means it outsold DS3 on PC+Xbox+PS4 and DS was way more popular.

If you remember the 2 million trolling then you remember the 16 million trolling. You can't selectively remember history. 2 million is closer to 7 million than 16 is to 7 million. We were right. Cope.

here comes the cope

If you remember the 2 million trolling then you remember the 16 million trolling. You can't selectively remember history. 2 million is closer to 7 million than 16 is to 7 million. We were right. Cope.

>when you said for years that Bloodborne sold over 16 million based on Gamestat.com
I remember that but holy shit that was in 2021

[...]

I thought that was last year

>ER sold better in PS4/5 than PC.
no it didn't
>Dead Space
the remaster is on the switch
>removed hogwarts legacy from his list after people mentioned it's on the switch
kek

>Alan Wake 2
meds

>ER's 20M number is from 2 years ago.
they just announced it did 23 million. it did great but it's easy to think it was some witcher 3 level success because a lot of youtubers talked about it

I disagree

WiiU eshop had dosens of games like this, especially Minecaft and Slenderman clones.

>Spamming boards with sales threads
2 per week is spamming?
>molding at the success of multiplats
But that's you and your discord clique though. Still, one game per year is still better than none, thanks Sony.

High percentage of whales + average gacha population = good revenue.
It means nothing for people buying a SINGLE game, and a mobile railshooter is fundamentally different than a 3d action game.

Good for them, won't make the game magically successful and not be stuck on a shit console without an out for a yeas though. It'll probably do worse numbers than Granblue Relink.

Rockstar is probably not going to release GTA6 without heavy casualties themselves, if they haven't incurred them already. "Come back into the office in-person or you're fired, no more WFH" is the prelude.

as much as people like to talk about sweet baby inc these days they also have a share of problem here. AAA games usually take consultants of multiple types to help in the game. be it polishing models or cutscenes or in sweet baby's case narrative and SJW crap. they also need to pay for the mocap sessions and the actors. there's a lot of sht that you can milk here to get there