What is going on? Are the Wild Rumors true? Big Corp slowing down emulation development on purpose? Why are all cores so out-of-date? When was the last time a RA Core got an update?
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Update the Beetle Saturn Core.
've stopped using Retroarch for anything beyond the 4th gen consoles. Mednafen is much more performant for Saturn games especially on my ageing PC, I just wish it had CHD support.
Beetle Saturn does have CHD support though?
I get full speed in every Saturn game even with rewind and max accuracy settings, and most games I can even run a couple frames of run-ahead. I'm starting to think some of you just have old shitty PCs.
They're wishing that Mednafen standalone supported CHDs
oh no one uses that piece of shit, just use Beetle Saturn lmao
Moral of the story: Don't trust emugen???
>ending a correction with a question mark
When did zoomers start doing this? It annoys the crap out of me.
>I'm starting to think some of you just have old shitty PCs.
Some of us do. It's nothing to be ashamed of
This mentality is the #1 thing I hate about open source. Otherwise it's pretty based.
>When did zoomers start doing this?
I'm not playing devil's advocate here, but it's a figure of speech, older than zoomers, at least. Basically, the question mark suggests the speaker wants the interlocutor to reflect and agree with the proposed point of view. Something like:
- It's raining, I'm gonna get wet.
- Although you have an umbrella? (Meaning: "Since you have a umbrella, you shouldn't worry about getting wet, don't you think?")
>Although you have an umbrella?
In that form it's a question, not a statement. What bugs me is when people end statements with question marks.
Both are questions. You can have sentences that can end with either a period or question mark and it changes the inflection of the sentence
This further reinforces my theory that at some point, I woke up in an alternate dimension that's different enough from my own to be annoying, and that I've been stuck there ever since.
Mandela effect is one hell of a drug.
No, >Beetle Saturn does have CHD support though< is an affirmation, not a question, period, there's plenty of non native speakers on the web as to not minding it that much, though?
>I woke up in an alternate dimension
so it's not just me...
EFL expert here. You can both state and ask a question, but either way, it's a question. "Beetle Saturn does have CHD support though?" is an unsure statement of a question meant to be read with upward inflection and a quizzical eyebrow raise.
You should teach English to ESLs, tbh.
>EFL expert here
if so then sue the public education system because that is not a proper use of the adverb though
>desu
the sweet irony of it all...
>public education system
I had to drink the kool aid because I had no other choice.
>t. '03 zoomer barely scraping by in life
>This mentality is the #1 thing I hate about open source.
You hate being able to make changes, or you hate that you might be asked to?
I hate being told to make changes myself if I don't like how a particular project does things.
what improvements would be gained?
Game fixes, the biggest prominent one I've seen is FMV desyncs from games like Grandia and etc that was fixed after 1.29.
Everyone knows that, its just danyboy who doesn't play games.
Grandia's FMVs haven't received an update since 2017. RetroArch's Beetle Saturn core was forked from the 2019 stable along with many later fixes that were ported as well (last core update was two years ago, same as the latest standalone stable). So you are either mistaken or using the wrong core.
Make me.
>have 8bitdo m30 for mega drive and saturn
>have sn30 for snes and gba
>have nes classic controller for nes, gb, gbc, pceng
>have original gamecube pad for gamecube and n64
>have 8bitdo pro 2 for ps1, dreamcast
>every time should remap controller
This shit is what made me drop RA and go back to standalones. Zero regrets, ever.
But you can save remaps either by core or individual game?
Just setup the emu and call it a day no big deal,if joypad is dinput no need to do a new setup each time you change joypads.
>remap by individual game
Why!? That's stupid since is about setup the emulator to imitate the console.
Assuming you only ever use the controller with the associated console just remap by core
You can save multiple per-game and per-core remaps you know. Also your controller profile is saved separately. Controllers are one area where RetroArch could use some improvement, but you can still do this, it's just not completely seamless.
>what are core/game overrides?
You can save each one by core to fix this. I will say though that's a great idea, ideally everyone should do this instead of just using an Xbox controller or whatever. I have two bluetooth Genesis controllers (three-button and six-button) and a Saturn one but I'm still missing most of the others
Ares comes very close if not better in some ways, it's just not as portable yet (e.g. I can't use it on my TV stick). Some cores are also better standalone, like Saturn and GameCube/Wii. I do really like the convenience RetroArch offers though
it's a glitch I don't think they ever fixed. you can get around it by going to input > retropad binds, configure all the buttons and hit "save controller profile" then "reset to default controls" and immediately restart RetroArch.
now when you connect the controller it will load the correct config file depending on the controller you are using
Its not a glitch, its nvidia free cards for the dev of retroarch, these makes him lazy as frick for some unknown corrupt reason.
It's open source. Make your own fork. Update the core yourself.
Unless all you want to do is complain, the solution is easily accessible to anyone.
hy daniboy
>how do we make guy fix thing?
>>you could try fixing it
>IT'S HIM IT'S THE GUY
Even if I was Danny, how would that stop you from making your own fork and fixing the problems he won't?
I'm just seeing a lot of whining, and anyone who suggests actually doing anything must be [guy i don't like].
It's a honor having you here, Danny. Make yourself at home. You're more than welcome.
So no, you have no intention of taking the one option that would solve all of your problems because it might require the smallest modicum of effort.
Thanks for clarifying, you braindead spook.
>braindead spook
Yep it's Danny. How's it feel being the guy everyone avoids?
config hell, Danny. Per-core configs constantly hijacking the main core-agnostic config and vice versa, controllers are still dogshit to remap, shader customizations reset every single time you add or subtract a shader, absolute dogshit performance compared to every standalone emulator, every single emulator out of date. No I will not be specific and I will not make pull requests. I'm not doing your work for you, chud.
>I'm not doing work
Well no, of course you're not.
Upvoted for epicness.
>config hell, Danny. Per-core configs constantly hijacking the main core-agnostic config and vice versa, controllers are still dogshit to remap, shader customizations reset every single time you add or subtract a shader, absolute dogshit performance compared to every standalone emulator, every single emulator out of date. No I will not be specific and I will not make pull requests. I'm not doing your work for you, chud.
I tried the PPSSPP core out on my iPad 9, and I second this. PPSSPP standalone runs FAR smoother.
Good thing multi-system emus like Blastem and Ares are able to pick up the slack.
how moronic do you have to be to be filtered by retroarch jesus christ this board
>moar dannies
You could at least *try* to disguise your writing style.
I think most of the config crashes are caused by the video backends not playing nice when swapping cores. Most of the time it's fine to swap between OpenGL & Vulkan & D3Dx, but when swapping drivers alongside per-core stuff like Shared Hardware Context, VRR, runahead, etc, that's a recipe for crashing. I've noticed it most often with Kronos (can't remember if RA has YabaSanshiro), Flycast, and Beetle PSX HW.
shut the frick up danny
>he doesn't know
The whole point of it is to show that ~~*you*~~ are poison to everything you touch, that you should not be trusted. The outrage is long gone, all of this is old news. There is only your reputation, destroyed by your own doing because you can't control yourself.
I know what it's like. I went through self-inflicted damage much like what you've been going through, trashed my own reputation for short-term gains over and over. It's not worth it. My advice: No more Patreon, Patreon is a disease. Either shut it down or make someone else the beneficiary. Stop reading RA threads on 4chinz. The best PR is complete silence. If someone asks you "Hey Daniel, what happened to this money?", do not address it. If it's on your Discord or something, ban WITHOUT comment and do not discuss it publicly. Step down from admin and moderator positions where possible so that you don't have to look at shit like this, ideally these bans would be handled by others you trust. If you're addressed in a public space e.g. Twitter, MUTE is your friend (not Block!) so that you can hide people from existence without alerting them that you've done so.
You don't have to disown RetroArch, but for your own sake, stop enraging yourself. Add RA-related words to your filters here. I'm sure Reddit has a similar browser add-on for that purpose. Remind yourself that damage control is no longer necessary because the damage has already been done. There is nothing to be gained from the denials and naysaying you're throwing around out here.
have a nice day, homosexual. you know nothing.
Of course I don't know most of your personal life. But anyone with eyes can see that you're torturing yourself over this. Stop doing that. 1) you're digging a deeper hole every time. 2) Regardless of people's feelings about you or what you "deserve", it benefits everyone to have you mentally well.
This is generic advice because your troubles are not unique. Many others understand what you've done & been through because they've done & been the same themselves. A great many would do the same as you given the same position. You might be a bad guy, but you're not *that* bad. Truth is many of us in this thread are just as flawed, yes I am going to assume and yes it's a correct assumption.
... homosexual.
what the frick you even know to call me 'bad'? assume for yourself! I won't reply to you anymore, I have work to do. unlike you.
... Loser.
You'd be hella based if you did emudev stuff in your spare time.
The funny thing is he actually did block websites like this one from himself at one point precisely because he knew it was hurting him in more ways than one. Didn't matter, he couldn't help but come back to shitpost. The guy can't stand someone somewhere talking shit.
Anyone who uses triple parenthesis is an automatic gay, no questions asked.
>he DOES know
What's cry-worthy about this? Besides being a thing of beauty.
You're not Danny. >:(
Yep, I'm no danny. However, I religiously browse EmuGen.
> Per-core configs constantly hijacking the main core-agnostic config and vice versa
Why the frick is this even a thing? Everything else I could put up with, but why in the holy Roman frick do the configs you make just randomly shit themselves? I've lost track of how many times I need to wipe the config folder clean and remake all of them because they just decided to start crashing to desktop out of nowhere.
Does Danny even know what a Torrent is, let alone a Usenet Index?
>Suyu
Yeah?
Oh, the emulator that contained illegal, copywriter SDK content that had previously gotten yuzu struck down? A completely different situation.
Reminder there is NO alternative for the features and customization of RetroArch, and you WILL be missing out if you get filtered and can't figure it out (you only need to learn it once; RetroArch is same across all devices/OS).
People use RetroArch for:
>the ability to save unique bindings/core settings/video settings/shaders for each core/game; literally anything at all you can change in RetroArch, you can save on a per-game basis
>better audio/video sync, input latency, and audio latency than standalone emulators
>huge selection of shaders and filters, and the ability to tweak all parameters of these shaders
>lossless recording at exact resolution and refresh-rate for every core/game (vastly superior to OBS); also input recording implemented for every single core
>rollback netplay for worldwide co-op or PvP games
>cores that are up-to-date with standalone and you can update all of your cores with a single click
>some cores that are only on RetroArch or are more up-to-date on RetroArch
>dozens of hotkeys that you can bind however you want and remain consistent for each game/core (or you can have unique hotkeys just for one game/core)
>VRR, BFI, and sync to exact framerate (to play games at the exact framerate of a game, e.g 54fps for Raiden FJ, or 61.68fps for TGM)
>top-notch CRT support with CRT Switchres
>1000 save states for every game with screenshot previews and undo save state/undo load state
>MAME core has save state support, rewind, & run-ahead for ALL games, even those with no save state support in MAME standalone
>RetroAchievements support
>UI and settings layout is consistent for every core so you don't have to learn dozens of different standalone UI layouts
There is no reason to use anything else for Gen 5 or earlier (plus GBA, DS, and Dreamcast).
this is copy/paste from the wiki, there was no efort in posting this, anon should be ashamed for using PR blah blah.
the wiki? what are you even talking about moron? you have gone full schizo at this point.
Posting years old chat log """leaks""", schizoposting about the Beetle Saturn core just because it hadn't implemented a couple of irrelevant unstable version changes, and spamming about RetroArch nonstop letting it live rent-free in your mind.
hi danny
you know that crap is busted, and moronic to start with? Oh, wait, hi danny
Yeah, I hate copy pastas too, but this one is correct. There is no better alternative than RA to play retro games up to ps1.
Have you not heard of Duckstation? It instantly made EPSXE obsolete.
You can do that on standalone emus .
>top notch crt
Just standard shit,blarg ntsc is still king and not included on shittyarch.
>muh rollback netplay
Either you are too moronic or you don't know most games are single player chud.
Certain emulators have a few of these features, usually in a limited implementation. RetroArch has every single one of these features for every single core, able to save individually for each and every game, and a consistent UI for every single one.
>chud
zero effort bait
>no muuuh multi emu is the best and nothing comes near it.
Well chud shittyarch is worse with each release and overbloat with useless shit.
>but muhh UI is unique like ps3 and should be used by all emus.
Haven't seen that one in almost a decade,the UI got worse with time.
Also as long is easy to use no one cares
>shittyarch : load game,choose core;make setup,run as shit.
>other : load rom and call it a day,can run on pentium 3 (project 64 legacy).
Sik's NTSC filter is objectively better for Genesis/Mega Drive shit. (It's included in Blastem.)
I dunno, Retroarch's ntsc shader looks pretty convincing to me
>config hell and feature creep
not. even. once.
Newsflash; Duckstation took all the UI/UX shit from Retroarch, but also included Dolphin elements.
RetroArch doesn't just have one UI. I use the XMB but there are many different layouts and styles
ok but how do I disable the shitty console UI that copies the switch/ps3 and just have a normal desktop UI?
yes I know that exists, but when I open retroarch it doesnt boot THAT up, it boots up the switch clone UI I dont remember the name of, is there a way to make the desktop menu the DEFAULT and nothing else shows up?
I'm afraid not. You have to press F5 every time.
That's lame AND gay
YOU USE A CONTROLLER TO PLAY THE GAME, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO SWITCH BACK TO MOUSE EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU ENTER THE MENU OR SWITCH GAMES?
Man, you frickers so fricking dense and obtuse. If you are stupid enough to want to constantly be shuffling back and forth between controller and mouse, then just HIT ONE FRICKING KEY AND BE DONE WITH IT. Fricking helpless morons who can't comprehend a UI that actually makes sense for playing controller-based games.
The whole point of an emu is to customize it ur own way. I only use RA for mobile stuff, and my iPad 9 runs nearly all the cores flawlessly. (Save for the 6th gen consoles.)
Retroarch is best for both mobile and desktop emulation. You're just a fricking obtuse moron. You shouldn't need to or want to swap to mouse every fricking time you swap games or enter the menu, it's just asinine. And yes, there is a way to make desktop default, but I'm not telling you because you're a dumbass
>moron
why?
>YOU USE A CONTROLLER TO PLAY THE GAME
Unless it's for DS emulation, then touchscreen all the way.
ok Kathleen Kennedy
>bla bla bla stop having options
ok moron
exactly, the whole point of an emu is to have options that fit each individual's need's.
>YOU USE A CONTROLLER TO PLAY THE GAME
no, some people play on keyboard
classic doujin controls (zxc + arrow) ftw
Both UI work great with keyboard, that's why MOUSE was specified.
I'm that guy who plays Super Metroid using the numpad.
I loved the original RGUI back when I used RetroArch on Wii. Honestly it's exactly the same as the new UI except all the elements are much closer together vertically, so it doesn't take as long to find what you're looking for. What makes the new UI (Ozone) worse is that it's just toooo spaced out for how many options there are, and there's a bunch more sub-menus and options than there used to be.
This menu system used to suffice, was simple and pleasant. But it scales poorly with all the new additions. and to be completely fair to RA, I don't know if there's actually any good solution to making a controller-based UI with THIS MANY options. Is it possible? How would you or I do it? We can hide as many menus as we want, but we still have sub-menu problems and config overwrite issues.
how about designing it without many options
>how about designing it without many options
agreed, it has too many non working and often arcane options buried a landslide of submenus, but the real problem is stuff often does not work properly
>not working as intended so it needs user made fixes and workarounds.
ok
>but we still have sub-menu problems
Not a problem, doesn't take long to learn how things are organized
>config overwrite issues.
Not the most elegant solution, but save your master configs/remap defaults for global settings and individual cores as read only (set them up for most compatible/most universal for your preference).
Then only make new files as needed for on a per-game basis, either as per-game remap, per-game core settings, per-game shaders, per-game global override. If there is ever an issue with a game, just delete that game's associated core options or override in file browser.
Did that with all the shaders but when i changed the driver in the master config, all settings where gone (again). This config frickery is pure voodoo shit and needs to stop.
Why not make a new config file for each core?
Let there be a null config file for just retroarch without a core
as soon you load a core a copy of that config is made called swanstation config,... so on.
No need to ovrewrite everytime the whole config.
>Let there be a null config file for just retroarch without a core
>as soon you load a core a copy of that config is made called swanstation config,... so on.
That is basically how it does it. It uses the default config until you set a core override then it uses that. Again, just set global config as read only, and set up your core options and core configs (configs may not be necessary, unless you want some specific global option to be different for a specific core, say you want an entire core to be at 1:1 pixel aspect ratio instead of 4:3 as an example), and also make both of those read only.
The config (.cfg) is different from the core settings file (.opt). The .cfg is just if you set an override for a game or the core. The .opt is for whatever your core-specific settings are (for example, mesen core settings let you use different NES color palettes, crop pixels around the screen, and so on). You have a global .opt that applies by default for every game within that core, as well as the ability to save game specific .opt files
Take a look in the file explorer sometime and you will see how it's organized and it will make a lot more sense. Although it's a bit unintuitive that the remaps are in their own separate folder (which is then divided into core specific remap folders)
It suck ass and loses 90% of the options.
Danny having a melty. A Dellty~
>It suck ass and loses 90% of the options.
I hope configuring shit with my controller isnt as bad as it sounds but Ill give it a try
you could also
like
edit the config file directly
When menu sucked ass so hard you gotta go and dig through config files instead isn't a good look.
average unix/linux/bsd experience
>imagine needing to do that for an emulator front-end when you can just use the standalone
lol
Your very first greentext is moronic because it's an interesting IDEA but the implementation is garbage, it's incredibly difficult to tell where any given setting is "coming from" or where it's "going" if you change something. It all comes down to Retroarch's ultra shitty UI designed for tablet babies. I mean, for frick's sake, their memory searcher requires you to move in INCREMENTS OF 1 across the entire 4-byte integer address space (~4 billion values). If you hold the button down, it gradually accelerates, until it's moving so fast you blow past your desired value by a factor of 100000x. So you have to do the same thing going the other way. Repeat. Why is this important? What if "b-but I don't use cheats" etc? It matters because it highlights the fact that the interface CAN'T EVEN HANDLE TEXT INPUT for configuration. It has a keyboard mode for "searching" and naming config save files but it's not used for anything that matters. Everything is handled through shitty "tap and scrolls".
https://rentry.org/bfpgwwnh
What does that mean?
Every time I run the core updater there are new updates.
There are updates every day.
Probably some tribewar shit about how RetroArch is the ONLY emu frontend people should use. (Despite there being SEVERAL emu frontends.)
It was me, I'm fricking up the whole project on purpose so you gays go back to individual emulators.
i knew it. fookin hell
My first emulator was Kega, so I take pride in that.
Objectively the best multi-system emu if you're a hacker/TASer. (RTC is also a solid fork, but I don't think that gets updated as often.)
i wish newer consoles would have cores on retroarch. after experiencing the autistic organizational convenience and extensive personalization features of it i have a hard time going back to trash like xenia. imagine if ryujinx or RPCS3 were on RA.
>imagine if ryujinx or RPCS3 were on RA.
NTA, but I'd like to imagine for Asura's Wrath and MvC3.
truly a fate worse than hell.
all u need is to code a basic ui with the assistance of qt6, then you've basically copied ra's aesthetic.
>with the assistance of qt6
RA already has a desktop UI that uses Qt. Just make it the default and drop the original gamepad-centric menu.
Is that all? Thanks for saving me from having to deal with big picture normie bullshit.
Keep in mind that actually removing the "big picture normie bullshit" from the actual program entirely would probably still require a lot of work.
Yeah sadly the big picture stuff is always running, and lots of options are missing from the desktop UI. Imagine how much faster shader management would be if you could just keep the settings window open on top of / to the side of the game rendering area.
The gold standard would be to have the file-edit-etc top bar menu accessible while in fullscreen, but very few emulators actually do that (ZSNES <3), and to keep the emulator in fullscreen while having options windows open.
ZSNES <3 Why want more? Speaking of which, I really miss old Gens with its pretty idle static.
RetroArch does not make it easy to understand how settings are saved since it does not have an intuitive flow and does not communicate when settings are written or overwritten (except for when you do it manually), and getting people into NNx bilinear is a multi-step process that pretty much requires you to like tinkering in order to figure it out. NNx bilinear scaling should be the default for every emulator at this point, it would be the best for normies so they don't have to deal with a smaller video output but still get sharp pixels.
>Imagine how much faster shader management would be if you could just keep the settings window open on top of / to the side of the game rendering area.
Make the U.I. background 100% transparent.
That's actually smart, I'll consider doing that for MY retrofart setup.
I've done that actually. It's almost as good but not quite. It hinders text readability and can obscure small parts of the image (not that big a deal). But the biggest problem is that it'll never be as fast as a separate window that has working sliders and/or value fields. Especially value fields, tabbing and shift+tabbing between fields to input values via keyboard would be great.
Meh, everyone's a commie until you realize it's not a viable way to live.
It is not proper, but it is a modern accepted/understood usage. We can weep for the English language all we like but it's always been a fast & loose bastard of a language, changing too fast for anyone to keep up with.
>Meh, everyone's a commie until you realize it's not a viable way to live.
What would be more viable? I'm curious.
Embedding chink emuboxes.
I've tried to toy with the idea of making AtGames/Firecore homebrew, but that also sounds like a nice idea.
What causes impotent seethe about something like this instead of just not using it? I've used RetroArch for thousands of hours, and I just find it hilarious.
For me, it's a good way to be "lazy." If I care more about accuracy and gamedev shit, then I use emus that aim more towards cycle-accuracy.
I just want an emulator which is encompassing and plug and play and retroarch does that.
Sad to see it disintegrate like this if these are true.
nothing has happened. it's just one (or maybe two) anons having a schizo meltdown after getting repeatedly blown the frick out in the last thread.
he's just repeatedly spamming the same line over and over and is very obsessed with Beetle Saturn not having the unstable changes implemented from standalone mednafen. Curiously not complaining about why mednafen standalone won't implement something like CHD support, or more than 10 save slots, or more than 10 seconds of rewind, or the ability to save all your settings and rebinds per-game. Very autistic and schizophrenic behavior.
It does have most of the fixes, they've just been backported to the last stable version.
He's shitting himself over a version number and has yet to give one example of why it matters.
Mednafen should also have an option to force progressive scan, which would be less of an eyesore.
The closest possibility I can ever see of that happening is if there's a multi-system NES emu that focused primarily on VTxx. (And various non-nes variants.)
>last update 2018
what is the point of including that link
To manifest some personal vendetta against any frontend that isn't ra.
sp must pay for his crimes
keep sending me money and maybe I'll consider updating the core. after I buy my own yacht.
as for the others, appreciate your support. you guys are allright, I might invite you to the yacht party.
>keep sending me money
I already sent all I had, Danny... You just replied "thanks, sucker!" and blocked me. Don't you remember?
>oh no why isn't this emulator that was perfected 15 years ago not being updated daily?
umm excuse me there's a long standing graphical glitch in scrunt that was only fixed in the latest nightly update
good thing the development didn't stagnate then
I met an ex-yakuza guy once at an eatery in Koenji. He said he was the real life person that Ushijima the Loan Shark was based off of. No idea if he was fibbing but he was a big guy (much bigger than the actor in the live action). He was eyeing me cause I was big and swole too from lifting at the time and he thought I might have been a pro-wrestler friend he knew (mistaken identity). But my wife is dumb and trusting so she started chatting and he was all excited to pull his pant legs up and show off all his yakuza tattoos.
The one thing I liked about >>>that comic is that the early chats between the kids really did model the different typing "quirks" my friends and I used on IRC/ICQ in the 90s well. The trollshit went too far though.
>I met an ex-yakuza
Nice
I've never updated any of my emulators in the past 15 years.
I will fork and recompile libretro, RetroArch, and all the cores however and whenever I want to. The GPL protects me.
However, GPLv3 doesn't protect you from tivo-ization. Hyperkin learnt that the hard way.
https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/2017/12/02/squarepusher-vs-the-world-nvidia-and-steam/
You mean to tell me the devs are buttholes behind the scenes? Checks out, I'd rather use the TASing emu.
dafuq is this, a pesterchum chat log?
RetroArch's creator/lead dev SquarePusher Danny "misallocates" funds from Patreon towards buying personal toys like smartphones and gaming PCs. Say it ain't so~! I love all the double standards and lies coming out of his mouth. Everyone should read this, it's a good laugh.
Not quite (see above). He also pretends that contributing cores to RetroArch is quick and easy while struggling with doing so himself, so he berates every other developer for not doing work for RA for free.
Btw, Danny is the sole beneficiary of the RA Patreon. He makes money from other devs' emulators since he doesn't code emulators himself (or, to be more precise, does not run any emulator projects and does not make significant contributions to them), he just does porting and frontend work. Now you know why he gets mad at emudevs for not porting their work to RetroArch for free, and for not reworking their licenses to be RetroArch-compatible: Because Danny wants more money all for himself~ <3 It's all supposed to go to RA and bounties, but you can see how that's turned out.
I'll be fair. RA is a cool concept and has a lot of smart work behind it, and Danny/SquarePusher/TheMaister/whatever created a good chunk of it. But he is a selfish thief above all else, and that is what he'll be remembered for because he has poisoned his own work with greed and anger. Lucky for everyone else he has terrible foresight, so he doesn't think to cover his tracks.
... I need to check something real quick.
>misallocated patreon funds
I've heard this was also the case with Yuzu. Is that a rumor, or confirmed?
Just to clarify, I don't give a single frick what Nintendrones have to say. They're inherently anti-emulation.
I've heard basically everything *but* this about Yuzu, such as the devs offering support to patrons regarding a certain leaked game that wasn't out yet. I haven't heard anything about misusing Patreon funds but I also didn't look too deeply into the situation.
Oh yeah, I DID hear about the leaked game shit. You don't wanna do that shit around Yakuzatendo, that's for sure.
>creator
Danny didn't create shit. Byuu created the libsnes API (which became libretro) and Themaister created the original frontend for it, SSNES (which became RetroArch), along with most of the things that set it apart from other emulators, such as Dynamic Rate Control and its robust shader support. Dannyboi just happened to be internet pals with Themaister when the latter first began collaborating with byuu, and the ONLY notable thing Danny did in those days was the initial port of RetroArch to PS3, as well as a few speedhacked cores that ran on weaksauce hardware like the Wii. Only reason he got handed down the reins to the project was because Themaister got bored and wanted to move onto other things, and Danny had been there since the beginning, so it fell to him.
lol even funnier
Bait used to be believable.
>the ONLY notable thing Danny did in those days was the initial port of RetroArch to PS3
Wait, according to the retroarchleaks that code was the actually api from sony.
>Danny/SquarePusher/TheMaister/whatever
Just to clarify: Danny = Daniel de Matteis = SquarePusher = TwinAphex = DanteAlighieri = BoardsOfCanada = God knows what else... He's an entry-level coder (despite all these years) and his contributions are and were always trivial. His solo antics (many unprovoked) have put RetroArch's entire team in hot water several times. Often mistreats contributors and users for the smallest misunderstandings (caused by his near-illiterate levels of reading comprehension).
Themaister = Hans-Kristian Arntzen, an actual and competent developer, well-employed and respected. Judging by merit alone, he's the closest to be considered RetroArch's creator. He's mostly an honorary member of libretro now, but once every blue moon he still makes a relevant contribution.
dude, who cares? I donate to their patreon because I like the program they have made and have thousands of hours in it. I don't give two shits what he spends it on. He could waste it on cocaine and hookers for all I care.
>He could waste it on Steam sales and Nvidia graphics cards for all I care
Ftfy. I don't even know how our dannyboy would fare with a hooker.
Again, good for him, he deserves it and more. With how much RetroArch has benefited people, he should be making 10k a month from it.
>he deserves it and more
I genuinely laughed. Thanks, anon!
Real talk, how can I use ESRGAN shit while using an AMD GPU?
>t. RTX 3060 gay
new upscale models are better, but stable diffusion seems to have taken the core if trained well
Hopefully I don't gotta rely on CUDA in order to do useful AI shit, because I'd have to start working with FOSS shit sooner or later.
That would be all fine and good, anon, IF any of those Patreon bux went toward any of the people who actually make the program what it is. Daniel is not one of those people, yet he gets all the dosh. He literally just got lucky and happened to get handed the leadership role, and has done close to nothing that actually improved it or added useful features - that credit goes to its many contributors over the years. Daniel is a glorified maintainer AT BEST, and that when he's not actually breaking shit left and right with pointless "cleanup" and "refactor" commits.
My money would rather go to Richard Whitehouse, the creator of PigPEmu.
greetz :3
Never heard of PigPEmu before now. Greetz and good work :03
np, i'm just sharing the love :DD
*oops, i meant BigPEmu
If he doesn't do anything, then why do you keep asking him to update a specific core?
I don't. Those who do that have no idea how core development, or any development for that matter, works under RetroArch. Hint: it basically falls to whoever has free time and feels like it. It's pretty much entirely a volunteer system. No one gets paid unless someone sets up a specific bounty. Danny himself can't code for shit, and every time he tries his hand at working on cores, the result is a mess.
For an example, see the ParaLLEl-N64 (formerly Mupen64Plus-libretro) core. He made such a mess of it that it became close to impossible to make it keep up with upstream changes in Mupen64Plus, so someone else had to create ANOTHER Mupen core more closely based on upstream, which is why Mupen64Plus-Next exists. And if you're wondering about the naming scheme, that was another genius Danny idea where he wanted to capitalize on Themaister's excellent ParaLLEl-RDP renderer once that was integrated, so he rebranded the old Mupen core with the ParaLLEl name and sold it as an all-new N64 emulator that would put every other one to shame, but it was too buggy and hard to maintain, so it got deprecated by the newer core. The result is now we have a confusing situation where the core that proudly displays the ParaLLEl name is the older and shittier of the two, but Danny is too proud to change it or remove it.
>donate to their patreon because I like the program they have made
>they
sorry, but i think you gave the wrong person the donation.
it really makes sense why everything someone says bad things about RA the retort was basically "skill issue" implying that using RA requires a modicum of intelligence. literally projection.
Lol, I've had to deal with fricking EPSXE. This shit is piss easy to use.
Correction: TheMaister is based, sorry Mr. Maister.
Now this is some good inside, thanks anon.
Yes i agree, RA is actually a good concept and it almost works, or works enough to see the potentional.
The Drama behind the scene is a whole different level but should be taken serious because that shit is what always slows down development!
I already said it, RA really needs a change of the people in control.
I've been using it since roughly 2013. What won me over was the combination of CRT shaders and godly audio/video sync for the time. It was one of the first emulators that I could play with VSync enabled, with very low audio latency AND without any pops or crackles all at once. I recall being able to go as low as 32ms audio latency at that time, which was INSANE for me, and it can go even lower than that now on both Windows and Linux. The interface... took some getting used to, but once I knew what everything did I was set. And the cores, at that time, were just about the best you could get for the consoles it covered, period. Of course, that was when the most complex console it covered was the PS1. Everything beyond that took a VERY long time to get an acceptable core up and running.
So yeah, I really like it in principle and I continue to use it, but it feels to me like its best days are well past. There's very little of that trailblazing energy it had early on left. At least under its current leadership, I don't see the ship being righted. It may well be time for something else to take its place, though we may not see it for some time still.
>RA is actually a good concept
seeing how hard it is to port "cores" from actual emulator builds, it really isn't. it just takes development away from the actual emulation towards some arbitrary standard, and when everyone already uses that standard, then boom the floodgates are open to line someone's pocket. it was designed as a "google" or a "steam" for the emulation scene from the very beginning.
Why don't they develope their own emucores?
because they lack the ability
Those who provide the cores should be in the leader postion. I don't understand how to comes that only one guy is in control?
I'm a nocoder, but iirc what makes it laborious is that every core has to be coded for C++ '98 standard in order to make it compatible with RetroArch, since RA targets an extremely wide range of SKUs. RA will never drop support for old SKUs so you have to learn a new standard and essentially upkeep a different version of your emulator that takes RA into account, which may require an entire separate branch and extra work to keep it up to date without breaking.
>every core has to be coded for C++ '98 standard in order to make it compatible with RetroArch, since RA targets an extremely wide range of SKUs
Well, that would explain a lot
>RA really needs a change of the people in control
Wise, but hard to happen. See, it's comfortable having Danny as the leader. He deals with the taxes and sends gifts to his favorite contributors (only after he buys his own stuff). Above all else, he's an excellent scapegoat. Something broke or lacking in RetroArch? "Uhhh... It wasn't me... It must have been Danny, haha!" Our maintainer even knows he's used like that, but what can he really do?
Even without Danny, there's more issues. Let's take, for example, barbudreadmon, a contributor to the FBNeo core who acts as its creator and leader. He's basically a Daniel who can code better. Oversensitive, awful reading comprehension, immature, and attacks whoever mentions FBNeo in a not strictly positive light, either on the forums or Discord (he's terminally online, just like Danny). Also, the based FBNeo dev is called dink (old-school developer, really talented), he's done most of the heavylifting. Just like Danny takes credit for Themaister's work, so does barbudreadmon with dink's.
RetroArch needs to get rid of its snowflake and childish devs first. Otherwise, Danny is no more than just salt to the (already existing) injury.
I sometimes wonder how RetroArch would fare if Danny were to croak tomorrow or whatever. Who would take on the mantle? I'm guessing it would fall on hunterk (assuming he wants it), since he's been there from just about the start. It wouldn't be a bad change on the face of it, as he's far more polite and pleasant, and he has shown no pretense of knowing much about coding beyond some shader stuff, so he's not likely to frick around with the codebase. I doubt it would be enough to unsour existing developer misgivings about libretro, though.
Hunterk (aka hizzlekizzle) has social tact, it's undeniable. He knows when and how to talk, and when to remain silent. He should've been the PR guy since the beginning, it would save RetroArch some trouble caused by Danny.
However, hunterk is a carefree person. While he's more than capable of doing Daniel's trivial work, I don't think he would like to feel tied up as the lead maintainer. He also dun goofed before, when he (unintentionally) allowed libretro servers to be hacked and almost wiped out. All in all, he's a great asset to have around, just not cut to be a leader. And it's not a criticism, to each their roles. I like him, a nice guy.
Yeah, that's my read as well, which is why I said assuming he wants it. Honestly I'm not sure who else would fit the bill. Sonninos? Laughable. Guy strikes me as an asskisser supreme.
Just some funny trivia: as a not-so-capable dev, Danny needs a sidekick to validate himself. In the beginning, for a short while, hunterk kinda fit that role, but Daniel turned out to be a little too much to handle, so it didn't work out (though they remained "friends").
Danny's most infamous sidekick was radius, and they had a convoluted love-hate relationship, with the latter constantly leaving and returning to the project (accumulating a few bans in the process). After many years, they still resent each other, and radius is a vocal critical/troll of Danny.
And Sonninos? Well, he's just another sidekick. Will he turn out like radius? Maybe. Only time will tell, as our maintainer is no easy task.
Yeah, I more or less caught onto that during my time interacting with Danny back when they were on IRC. He loooooooves grandstanding and having people validate his stance on things. I put up with it for a while because I thought they were doing great work despite Danny's personality shortcomings, but his constant tirades were, well, tiresome to say the least.
Last thread was moronic and this is too.
stop shitposting on Ganker and go back to fix your retroarch
i cant i looked up how to make a fork and its too hard
>its too hard
I know. Even the RetroArch's maintainer doesn't know how to fix stuff. Thing is really complicated.
Who the hell is Danny?
You get free TitanX cards when you frick up retroarch code on purpose
t.nivida
I don’t give a frick homosexual I’ll use whatever I want to play 30 year old games for children, blow your brains out
I never used Retroarch, and I never will.
Your loss homosexual
From the b***hing here it seems to be not a loss at all.
>get the itch after a year or so of not emulating anything
>download retroarch
>immediately just works
yeah I'm thinking it's based
works great on my machine sorry youre a schizo and a moron
>use standalones for everything
>only use retroarch for online with buddies
nobody asked
>clicks link
So this is why they stopped posting Xbox and PS3 ports. Frick you for ruining that for everyone.
i wish the netplay was better. always get nasty latency
I feel like the netplay used to be better than it is now. If it's not lagging, it's desyncing.
big money
I don't know if it's autism of schizophrenia but there's some nutjobs on this board all right.
After reading this thread, I think is the same moron taking advantage of the removal of IP counters. He is know replying to his own post but I don't know what he expects to gain. What no pills does to a motherfricker.
I take trintellix, yet I too engage in self-replies. (Mostly for boredom, sometimes loneliness, and a few times for trolling sake.)
>I think is the same moron replying to his own post
funny because dannyboy is rumored to do just that...
>schizo samegay vs schizo samegay
It's so stupid, but also so entertaining to watch
To me this just looks like a shill war between devs
It is, but I'm just seeing everything unfold because it's funny.
yes, the real reason why there is little to no progress within the emuscene.
>shill war
well only one of them has patreon
Unfortunately, Mednafen's the most up-to-date saturn emu.
>Mednafen's the most up-to-date saturn emu.
yes, 1.32
Beetle is still based on 1.29
and the current mednafen build (1.32) is no longer an unstable build.
This skill issue thread again?
Smh, should've had the thonking gorilla from beastwars as your picrel.
have a nice day upooter
Not all Windowsgays have updates enabled. Some of us are patiently waiting for Windows 11 to finally reach its LTSC.
retroarch sucks and is for lazy fricks too moronic to download normal emulators.
if you go out of your way to download an ugly shortcut menu where you need "cores" or whatever to play your games instead of just downloading a standard emulator you are a fricking moron.
a list of features already in every other emulator pasted off a wiki is proof that people who use this peice of shit are in denial about wasting their fricking time.
also stolen code.
>Stolen code
Yes
>"normal emulators"
When you grow up, and buy a sofa and a tv, you don't want to sit hunchback at the PC and having small .exe of emulators nested in folders, with different settings and so on.
It is so good to fart on the sofa with Retroarch
>"Braaaap!!!"
Ouch, my haemorroids
This could just be my inner-troon, but the sound of your brap turned me on.
Thanks anon
I take it as flattery (no homosexual tho)
Anytime, I respect your preferences :3
>also stolen code.
You are playing stolen games, but care about stolen code?
this guy probably has doubles of every super nes games one of each sealed and certified. he probably has rare carts that he won't dump the rom of because raisins
Our state in particular has a terrible problem with collectorgays, since we have some of the rarest Genesis games ever made.
>release code under license that allows other people to use it
>other people use it
WOOW
Then it's settled, I'm a Bizhawk Supremacist.
No one downloads retroarch beacuse of the UI, the UI is probably the worst thing about it. They use it because of Hard GPU Sync or Sync to Exact Content Framerate, tweakable audio latency, runahead, shader support, support for every controller known to man, etc. RetroArch objectively has the best performance possible for emulation and can even lower input lag lower than real hardware. Most stand-alone emulators are barebones as frick in comparison and many don't even offer things as basic as integer scaling.
Do it yourself.
never been happier with original hardware
Would you be happy once the hardware starts to rot? At that point, Emulation is the only option.
It will never happen to me.
As long as you remove the clock from your original Xbox, THEN you don't have anything to worry about.
what the frick are these back to back bait threads and why aren't jannies deleting it
Because jannies don't work for you. Are you the one who hired them? No? Then, stfu!
if it wasn't for people like me, the jannies would be bored. I keep them entertained, I keep them busy. They should be thanking me.
what % of retroarch users do you think only use it for the shaders?
Me. Chain-shading is especially great.
What are some alternativs?
EmulationStation?
Does ES use actual emulators?
Playnite does the job perfectly.
Ok boys. I've decided I want to use Playnite since the best experience I've had so far was with Launchbox but I want the fullscreen feature and I'm not paying shit.
I could try to wrestle retroach within playnite, but my experience (through launchbox) has been relatively negative. Bindings all over the place, and just completely forgetting the fricking gamepad. Also the shaders would never save. And absolutely unacceptable by itself.
I have configured individual emulators before with some level of success. Except consistent shaders between them. What's the best option for this?
Some emus (like blastem) have their own GLSL shaders, so it's worth looking into those options.
GNOME Games :^)
Wasn't it discontinued?
dunno, I can still get it from my distro's repos and flathub
https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/highscore
It seems like it's called "Highscore" now? The old repo for gnome-games is archived.
i'm surprised they aren't rewriting the whole thing in rust
Does that rust craze actually provide some benefit? Things perform better or are more secure?
nah, it's mostly a fad
Jgenesis is rust-based and is fully capable of running Overdrive 2, so it's not entirely a fad.
>What are some alternativs?
its open sourse so you could just take it and use it
EmuGen has a whole page, if you're curious.
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Comparison_of_frontends
From my gatherings, Nostlan is the most up-to-date frontend that's FOSS.
That's the most barebones comparison I've ever seen. RetroArch is by far the most feature rich with extensive customization and a strong focus on low latency and audio/video sync. There's really no reason to use anything else, see
ES is not the same thing as RetroArch. In fact, RetroArch is often used BY ES setups. ES is a launcher for individual emulators, whereas RetroArch is more akin to a multi-system emulator, though even then not quite, as it can do things beside emulation.
i wish it currently looked like that instead of what it looks now,standalone emus have a better and more instuitive UI compared to retroarch.
>im poor
ok
Never said i was poor or that i couldn't run it i just said is shit and prefer standalone emus since are easier.
If i got support when making and updating unteralterbach along keeping the site and server online i would have done a better multiemu with a huge patreon to get easy money,sadly didn't get support so pointing out the failure retroarch is.
you can adjust the layout and theme you fricking moron
as soon you say something bad about ra
a random (daniel) anon will pop up and insult you
>gets btfo the whole thread
>erm it's all the same guy so...
you're schizophrenic
daniel here, heard you were talking shit 'bout my RA?
Not me, Danny. I've heard radius is at it again.
NTA, but because the devs are scummy people.
I was skimming through that leak website, is that schlauchi fellow is the one from all of those world of longplay videos? Crazy
Yes, he is. In the (not so long ago) past, it was pretty common to everyone in the scene to gather on IRC. That's why there was so much bickering and drama, people were too close together. Nowadays, each group stay on their safespace, usually on a Discord server.
Oh, there's also the "archive everything" mentality preventing people to act how they want. On IRC, things were only logged if you were there or had set up a bot for doing that. It was much easier to say shit in the heat of the moment.
Discord seems like Nu-IRC, tbh.
It is, but with modern "features" that build upon the safespace and bubble mentality, like: segregation, metrics, reaction, server-side logs, post-editing and media support.
IRC, as crappy as it was (and is), at least forced people to face one another and to get out of the platform. There's still occasional drama, mostly confined to a discrete Reddit or forum post.
Private Trackers were my entryway into IRC, and those tend to be pretty chill.
Good to hear. I had no experience with that kind of channels. IRC to me was always about anime, software development and "l33t hax0rz", pretty shitty people there. Reminds me a lot of old Ganker (current one isn't good, mind you, just less worse). Well, it's also my fault for delving and interacting there for so long, I account myself responsible.
As long as you made mistakes, you'll know not to make them ever again.
Irc was very discrete too what are you talking about.
All it took to make a new channel was a /join and no one would even know unless you advertised it.
/ignore worked better than discord garbage too because it made the person actually disappear
It's the cycle of emulation modularity.
Someone makes a monolithic emulator that is full of hacks and bad code.
Next guy says "I'll make a MODULAR emulator with loadable objects so that the code will be CLEAN and MAINTAINABLE and it'll be used as the framework for generations!"
And then someone else comes along and says "that modular abomination is total crap and it's really difficult to shoehorn good cycle accurate code into that framework, I'm going to build a new monolithic emulator that does things properly."
And the cycle repeats.
RA was designed to accommodate the emulators that existed when it was written, and it (mostly) did but everyone with any sense realised that it was really lacking and required every core to be rebuilt with its short term thinking design in mind. Many emulator writers resisted, all were forked. And it should be little surprise that eventually the forkers realise that the real authors were right all along: RA's fundamental design is a chore.
At least Dolphin team made good use of QT6.
It was made squarely with bsnes in mind. After all, the real originator of the API was byuu, and he too abandoned it, though to be fair he was a fickle motherfricker who was constantly ditching projects left and right and reinventing the wheel every time. In any case, it's why there's still a few vestigial options that don't really do anything for the vast majority of cores, most notably the Crop Overscan option, which was made for the SNES cores.
The real future is individual emus that can be made into custom cores.
Yes, anon. Someday we'll also emulate literal emus.
So I'm guessing the main takeaway here is that Retroarch and company are Nvidia shills? Noted.
Ohhh, so THAT'S who daniel is.
Because it's old timey shit. Everyone's going over to fpga where the action is.
I'll just leave this here:
https://podnutz.com/aaa230/
>these pathetic attempts at "the best ui"
>all people want is the feeling of picking the game cartridge up off the shelf and sticking it into the console
Just gimme a list I can navigate easily with a search function. I don't need cover art or flashy gameplay videos that play before starting the game - that shit's purely for showing off to your normalgay friends.
anon its for people who spend more time jerking off to their collection than playing games
its like pretending that you play video games but you dont have to actually play them
>fake repro cartridges
>fake console that connects to your pc via usb
>fake console reads a qr code from the cartridge when you insert it and tells your pc to load the ROM you want to play
simple as
Recently I went back to using real discs and it was a huge pain in the ass. I am spoiled by being able to switch games so easily in RA.
As an experiment I would suggest anyone who is feeling nostalgia for cartridges to put their ROM files a few different USB flash drives. Then swap them out every time they want to change games. See how fast they tire of the novelty.
>put their ROM files a few different USB flash drives. Then swap them out every time they want to change games
All I want is a machine that can implant memories into my brain of having played a video game without having to actually play it.
It's called Youtube
Let's Cyrcle Leadership and call it TempLead for one year. Everyone who contribute serious work to the frontend has a right to become a Temporate Leader for a whole year. Meanwhile, everyone who is able to become a templead will be part of the Council of Temps and any groundbreaking changes have to go through the Council of Temps.
Also, the Council of Temps will vote on the next TempLeader for the next year.
The Problem with Corporation like agencies, or big corps overall is, they still handle their stock like a monarchy. They will stuck forever in the loophole of conservativity. There is no struggle to overcome, only if you overcome a struggle you will develope bigger and better.
A swing between liberal devs and conservativ devs is what brings this struggle to the table.
If you want your corporation to exist in a time of digitalization you have to introduce more democracy to your company.
End all monarchy like infrastructure in your corporation and start Temporal Leadership.
>Make giant behemoth of a project
>Why isn't it updating constantly?
>makes implication on a anime shitpost board
>feel strong
>Discuss things on a board to discuss things
Daring, I know.
>impicatetion avoided of the anime shitpost board
>continues to insult with zoomer memes
>proves point of anime shitpostboard
the frick am i reading
>Update project constantly
>Why do I have to constantly download updates?
>was unemployed for 2 months at the start of the year
>made a video showing the most basic scaling settings out of boredom
>gets like a thousand views (i have no subs) and normies tell me how helpful it was
Is it really that hard? I've been emulating and such since I was a little fetus so this shit is ingrained in my psyche, but do people nowadays not understand integer scaling and how to save setting and shit?
lol who cares you update addicted zoomer, my ZSNES 1.36 still works and never needed updates. Old console emulation has been solved decades ago.
Half of these posts have to be AI wtf is this thread
why are we doing the sequel to your last thread? didn't you get enough of being called a gay moron?
Hi Danny <3
I wish the PPSSPP and Yabasanshiro core didn't crashed when using turbo speed for a time, it's random but it's always there, also Yabasanshiro crashes the program when you try to save state.
In both cases i want the turbo speed to play RPG's, don't use beetle saturn because even tough is the best core it's much heavier so the turbo doesn't even manage to get to 200fps on my CPU (i7 10700k), while Sanshiro i got 300fps and more.
Other than that can't complain, amazing stuff.
what crt shader is this ?
It's from the Zombs Mega-Bezel pack, SCA1-Scanner with platform specific theme.
>another schizo retroarch thread where one moron is constantly spamming HI DANNY HEY DANNY WHAT'S UP DANNY to everyone
who the frick is danny and why is this gay so asspained about him? I assume he's the maintainer behind it.
It's a mystery. Just like the Patreon bux. We just accept some questions have no answer.
>https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/
Holy cow.
translate from schizo to english please?
prolly a bunch of shitposting and hatespeech about Retroarch, how the devs are zionist neonazis, how in the code theres BLM propaganda... you know, the usual shitpost material.
and even if i just made that up, only a complete moron (Read: OP) would believe any word from that shit.
tldr: wont read, its lies, git gud. frick OFF!
Never change, Danny. Never change.
What? It was illegally used SDKs, you dolt.
no slander page should be taken with even an ounce of seriousness, specially on the face of shitposters who just want to shit on something useful or good because IRONY!
How is it slander if it's from literal IRC logs?
because, even if its true, nobody should care. the shitposters certainly dont, neither the moron who made a wikileaks-style page dedicated to slander a fricking game system emulator..
>slander
It's not exactly "slander" if this is drama from within the RA dev community itself.
and that drama should have been kept to those guys in the community.
the whole point of these pages is specifically to stir outrage on social media, and get people to 'take a stand against the evil whatever'. THATS what makes it slander. and why no one with half a brain should care specially on threads like this where the main point is to diss on a piece of software.
I'm sorry to say this, but emu devs could care less about social media. You remind me of guy from Ganker
Anons going to read it, daniel. There is nothing you can do.
>Be RA devs
>Steal other people's code without credit act like buttholes
>don't update your UI
>Be surprised when those people go back to standalone emulation
Shockedpikachuface.jpg
Who's going back? You don't even like it and you're still here.
Nobody is, you're talking to a schizophrenic.
emu devs when they realize they're filling your wallet with their work
They should have read the license they released their software under.
Okay, this seems pretty moronic.
How is stealing code from a proprietary SDK and sell it as your own reverse engineering efforts the same as compiling Xbox homebrew using the proprietary SDK?
And why are people still upset about an off-hand comment in an IRC chat log from 7 years ago?
I personally don't care about the lakes SDK publishing stuff, it really isn't the same as making an emulator using leaked documentation, the latter being far worse. For me it's the everything else, and the amusement from seeing people seethe every time it gets brought up.
This is the first I'm hearing of this, since I've only ever browsed primarily on EmuGen.
Retroarch? More like Retrofart.
danny has no response to this, telling
That's because I've been looking up niche, rust-based emulators.
I prefer Retchro Shart.
PetroFart
Only thing that matters is if an emulator emulates what you need it to. I like Retroarch, but if standalones are better now emulation-wise, I'm sticking to the standalones. Easy choice.
Retroarch is still the best option for emulating on console and I can't see anything taking its place there anytime soon.
It's also great for mobile scum such as I 🙂
I don't even use retroarch, but if it's mindbroken this many gays, it's fine by me.
>duckstation
>PCSX2
>last yuzu build
>CEMU
why do I need troonyarch?
Because that's only four platforms? And duckstation is better in RetroArch anyways
Wrong.
I had a quick menu bar at the top of Retroach I would use to load content / core quickly, because the menu fricking sucks. But it's gone now and I have no idea why, how the frick do I bring it back?
Downgrade to an older version? That's what I would do.
Stable builds don't mean anything anymore. The most up-to-date builds are usually the nightlies.
+300 replies
>nothing to see here
>its just one schizo hating on retrpoop
Actually, it's a bunch of emudevs going on /vr/ during their free time.
just like you. Daniel.
lolwut, i don't even make my own emus. i mostly hang out on the blastem discord.
https://github.com/jsgroth/jgenesis
cry about it, danny
Anyone that has a problem with how RotroArch does things is probably a big whiny crybaby that just cries and cries all day long, and his parents probably ignore him, so he goes on the internet and cries about RotroArch, like a big old baby that cries. What a sad old baby he is. Crying about RotroArch. Crying and crying. So pathetic. You should be glad that your core is even being acknowledged with the correct name attached to it. Go cry some more.
You're just jealous because you can't code in rust.
>You're just jealous because you can't code in rust.
rust is for lazy crybabies that can't write code without memory leaks.
Work smarter, not harder.
>Work smarter, not harder.
Did you know that phrase was originally uttered by Al Sharpton?
>Al Sharpton
>homophobic antisemite
Yikes...
>homophobic antisemite
based
>based
Not as based as Malcolm X, another homophobic antisemite, who was later revealed to have been a gay prostitute that ONLY sold himself to white men and israeli men of the homosexual persuasion.
More like Male-cum XXX, amirite?
>More like Male-cum XXX, amirite?
He was married to a real woman and had several children. Just because he used to live with a transvestite "woman" ("man"?), that does not make him confused in any way. The thing about Nation of Islam is you can infect your wife and kids with AIDS after having unprotected gay sex with men and/or boys, and it will always be the white man's fault.
Based
holy shit. i just tried the pcsx2 core after hours of autistically organizing my menus and now i realize why people shit on RA so much. how is it this bad
Simple, they tried to jam standalone emus into "cores", which is moronic when you consider emus like Mesen, Ares, and Blastem exist.
tl;dr: ra is for lazygays
PS2 is an alpha core you moronic zoomer. do five seconds of research next time. or better yet, expand your horizons beyond literally just PS2 which is the only console you dumbass zoomers seem to even be aware of
I'm aware of the Panasonic M2, so I'm obviously doing research in my spare time.
Also, why would I want to be an emu dev if I DON'T research shit, dumbass?
i emulate older consoles regularly. my point was that RA presents itself as an all in 1 solution yet is decades behind standalones.
>my point was that RA presents itself as an all in 1 solution
for gen 5 and earlier, as has been stated a million times. PS2 and Gamecube cores are in alpha. No one plays RetroArch expecting to play Switch or PS3 games, and the PS2 and Gamecube support is still limited. It's primarily meant for up to PS1, Saturn, and N64, including GBA, DS, and Dreamcast as well.
>yet is decades behind standalones
no core, even the alpha cores, are a decade behind. all the non-alpha cores are up-to-date with stable standalones.
You anti-retroarch shills truly are 70 IQ mong morons.
>all the non-alpha cores are up-to-date with stable standalones.
Update Beetle Satrun core, it's out of date since mednafen is no longer in unstable version (1.32)
>mednafen is no longer in unstable version
Good, then that meaans I can get into Panzer Dragoon.
only if Danyboy updates the beetle saturn core, meanwhile you can buy merch in his store.
Lame, I'd rather contribute to projects like jgenesis or blastem. (I'm currently in the midst of teaching myself Genesis HW.)
The stagnation of deez nuts
Jesus christ why can't you all just let this schiizo thread die already, stop resurrecting it.
I frequent Ganker, so this is nothing new to me.
You bring it on yourself.
Meh, I've acquired thick skin at this point. Gen Z needs it.
How are things over there?
Extremely depressing, which is why I use plusGanker more often.
still waiting for ozone menu to get an update for custom themes
Does it not support themes?
it has a built-in selection of reddit's finest. you cannot choose your own colors or background, not even by editing config files. the themes are built into the code and you would need to recompile retroarch to change them.
>you cannot choose your own colors or background
even worse, it's one of the main devs doing this.
I'm talking about ozone, not xmb. there's about a dozen built-in themes, you can't change the colors and you can't use a background image. at this point it's been 5 years and they still can't let you make your own themes.
Yes and no.
Are there any multi-console emulators that don't have a shit UI? RetroArch's is trash and so is MAME's.
Bizhawk.
I unironically love the retroarch interface, been using it on my Vita for 5+ years
kind of intrigued by how anyone could have a problem with it
Same. I think RA is a little jank and needs a UI/UX person to redesign their options because they're all over the place and super confusing, but other than that I love the program. If I have the option to emulate with it, I do. Kind of unfortunate that the moron dev and other emudev people can't stay off Ganker and out of gay public drama. They just need to learn to take criticism and act like public figures.
I'm a libretro forums veteran. Being honest here, RetroArch's main issue isn't the application, but the project itself. Even sane suggestions given by long-time users and appreciators are ignored, regardless of the difficulty to implement them. It seems like devs live in "don't care" land and just do random and less meaningful stuff. If it has come to this, then the project is better left unattended, so the devs can focus their time on something else. If you say you're going to support something with code, at least lend a ear to the community.
Perhaps a separate fork entirely? In retrospect, that sounds pretty neat.
Good luck with that. What makes forking RetroArch difficult is that it's but part of a whole ecosystem. You'd have to fork the ENTIRE thing, including the cores. And good luck assembling people competent enough and willing to work on them as opposed to the originals, unless your selling point is "I'm not Danny".
Lol, that'll be entirely my selling point. (Kinda like how NeoGeo Emulation split off.)
>Everyone said Retroarch cores are fine
>Try to load up Bomberman Hero in it
>Janky framerates no matter what level I'm on compared to standalone mupen
It's shit, Tim.
Funny you say that. I tried playing that game in (standalone) Mupen64+ just the other day and I stopped playing because it was too laggy
Play it on real hardware and tell us what the framerate is there. I bet it's worse lol. Like many other N64 games, it probably requires a hefty overclock. There's three different settings that control overclock iirc: VI Refresh (set it to 2200 "fullspeed"), CountPerOp (I think set it to 1?), and CountPerOpDenom (set to 4 or 8, whatever your computer can handle best). Applies to both RA and standalone. RA has it all in the core quick menu, standalone is config files or in the settings of whatever unofficial UI you're using.
Is this the thread that makes the dev of retroarch angry?
This the thread that makes them happy <:3
I wonder how FBNeo is doing versus FBAlpha these days.
>fbneo
>latest build is from may 1, 2021
>fbalpha
>latest build is from april 28, 2018
seems fbneo is in a better place.
That's just the last "stable" build. Commits are daily and you can get nightly builds for both standalone and libretro core versions. Alpha is outright dead save for some libretro core forks meant for weak platforms like the N3DS.
Ah rite, would be nice to know how I can build the latest nightlies myself. I've already done so for jgenesis.
The instructions are there on their Github.
Sweet! I'll let you know if I come across any issues that need troubleshooting. Usually this isn't a problem for me since I'm used to using harder-to-set-up emus.
>fbneo
Has barbudreadmon throwing tantrums, mistreating users, and paranoia posting. No, thanks!
Since fbalpha can run on potatoes, maybe the best option is to resurrect that project... somehow.
Not exactly. The fbalpha folks are almost the same. The issue is that, during fbalpha to fbneo transition, barbudreadmon (somehow) rose up the ranks and has a very shitty demeanor, think of a lightweight version of Danny (minus laziness). In the very same project, we have dink, an older developer who just does his work (and does it well), without bickering with good-intentioned users.
So, the problem is not the project, but a single developer who's gotten too much of a voice.
Maybe the problem is the heavily-incentivized commercial backing of Emulators? I'm not sure if that's just a talking point for Nintendo though, given how fricky Emulation has been in general.
Ironically, that was precisely the problem Danny of all people pointed out back when RetroArch was just starting out. He was VERY outspoken about it, too, to the point he made it a point to make a big part of Libretro's old mission statement:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140209192003/http://www.libretro.com/index.php/mission/
He has since rescinded all of it, of course.
On an unrelated note, does this mean I'm better off using Ryujinx when it comes to switch emulation? I know that whole system has been rather fricky as of late.
What doesn't CEMU and envy do to people?
>opensores gays SEETHING and SEETHING
I can't stop laughing. It's the same story every time. Little commie shits think aLl iNfOrMaTiOn sHoUlD bE fReE, proprietary software is the devil, etc etc so they start their grand FOSS project for The People and then realize they can't earn a penny off it. Meanwhile some chink working nights in a guangzhong netcafe is making bank packaging their github shit onto plastic slop and selling it to aging neckbearded soiboys who can't wait to make a monetized patreon-backed influencer video showing off their new bingbingwahoo toy.
Can you add a few more buzzwords? I don't think I quite got my fill.
What "buzzwords"?
The post is an accurate depiction of the scenario. What did you have problems with? Your post has no substance in its criticism so I can only interpret is as directionless seething because it triggered your ego but you can't articulate a response. In other words, you tacitly concede through your inability to present a rebuttal.
Chatgtp
>Little commie shits
BigPEmu is closed-source, yet that was created by a "commie"
Oh goody, some /misc/troon mouthbreather found the thread, because it wasn't batshit moronic already.
The ironic part is that I'm also a troon, yet I find /misc/ to be a complete and total cesspool.
You belong there, though. You could be the new Melly.
I don't know who Melly is, but that name rhymes with Smelly.
>Smelly
That's Melly's cousin.
Sherlly shine
Who cares
the interface is so shit
let it die
People who use mobile devices, unfortunately. (You're even more limited on iOS.)
Danny was also a commie, but now he hides it.
That's a cowardly move, but I guess that's to be expected when you're driven by the profit motive.
Bump for dany seeeth
Danny's Feed n' Seethe
The emufeds are watching this thread.
qrd?
>The emufeds are watching this thread.
Kek, this is worthy of some popcorn.
>emufeds
why so paranoid? You really believe those wild rumors about free invida cards for danyboy? Anon, stop it. Maybe it is time to go to bed, i really feel sleepy now.
>wild rumors
Do you know what IRC Logs are?
Nobody is going to read them.
I read them, though. It's some wild shit.
No its not. Stop talking about it.
What might be the best GBA and DS emulator? mGBA and MelonDS?
mGBA is good, though NanoBoyAdvance is also a great option.
thanks anon,
how is Melonds btw? should I use it over tbhme?
>how is Melonds btw? should I use it over tbhme?
Both are just as accurate as one-another, so it doesn't matter.
Question for the dev doing damage control on the thread: can you make a core that emulates an interface that isn't dogshit?
Doesn't this get preinstalled in a frickton of chinkhelds? Curious...
Cool, but how can I compile jgenesis into an RA core?
maybe stop using retroarch because it's a piece of shit
I'll be honest, I only use RA whenever I have a mobile device laying around.
Why would you need an update? Everything just works
Confession: I had been using the old ass fdroid retroarch apk and only just realized the difference with the nightly build. Holy shit; it's night and day. I'm so moronic.
I've been using the ipa, and it runs nice on my end 😉
never liked this piece of shit, standalone emulators will ALWAYS be better
Depends on the use-case, but multi-system emus in general top retroarch. This is merely a frontend, which there are several of.
Ah yes, the chinkheld frontend.
Why does daniel get free nvidia cards? Whats the deal here?
If you're an eceleb, you're bound to shill for nvidia at SOME point.
Being a professional nagger, along with his previous antics, it wouldn't surprise me if he sent letters to Nvidia employees' home addresses, until they finally relented and figured it would be emotionally cheaper to just throw Danny a bone.
You just described how Digital Foundry does their "benchmarks"
Oh btw. I've bee using retroarch for years and years at this point. Initially; there is certainly a "learing curve" but it basicall comes down to a skill issue 99.9% of the time. There is no doubt that standalones can do certain things better at times. But for what Retroarch offers the user, for FREE, it's incredibly based. You're welcome to like what you like but I see no reason to bash Retroarch as it's been nothing but joy for me. I'm going to have to agree with anyone here who said "git gud" OR go play some other emulator and frick off. There, problems and differences settled.
If RetroArch was a subscription model where it was $20/month I would still pay for it. It's good regardless of price, and I would pay for quality that has no viable alternative. But yeah, it's still crazy how generous the devs are to make this software free and open source.