point laser thing to something puzzles and clone yourself puzzles. the most cliche and tedious puzzles known to mankind. technically there was block pushing in those puzzles so that makes it even worse cliche.
it's still alright game but you better like dem laser directing
Fun puzzles, though if you are more of a veteran puzzle player, you might find the game way too easy. I am AWFUL at puzzles, and I found the difficulty exactly ideal for me, which makes me think it must be very easy for most other people.
You'll also get pretty though repetetive environments, and a story that is mixture of great and well written human side of things, and some trully terrible and shallow "philosophy" that is not really worth paying attention to.
Seriously, the whole "transhumanism" theme of the game is not well handled. The game tries to explore philosophy of mind and does it in a very convoluted fashion, but ultimately does not have anything really interesting to say about it. And it can get borderline obnoxious at times. If you want a game that explores transhumanism and philosophy of mind specifically, you'll be much better served by something like SOMA.
But again, there is a second layer to the storline, the story of what happened to people, one that is purely about relatable characters and their minor struggles, and that side of the narrative is genuinely good.
Overal, it's a fun little distraction, though not one of those games I'd argue you MUST play.
The puzzles in the main game were really easy but some of those admin puzzles in the DLC had me scratching my head for hours. Also stars in the entire game were a great challenge.
I really hope that they spike up the difficulty in the sequel. The setting and the few screenshots look amazing.
Unfortunately I agree about the story. Sometimes it hits the perfect spot which makes it bittersweet but most of the time, the writing was very basic and cringey. The DLC has surprisingly great story and amazing puzzles.
>Sometimes it hits the perfect spot which makes it bittersweet but most of the time, the writing was very basic and cringey.
Yeah. The people talking about how their time is running out - that was what resonated well with me.
But the philosophy thing... as someone who actually studied this shit for a good while - the game just does not have anything to actually say on that matter. It tries to obfuscate it by making it all sound more important than it is, but ultimately it's just a chain of the more common and popular philosophical texts on this matter with very little context or even shared throughline, just "Look, we know a lot of philosophers talking about philosophy of mind, read our excerpts."
Which does feel - and I hate to use this word, but in this case I think it is fair - pretentious. It felt like they were trying to impress you with how complex these texts sound, hoping that you would not notice that they don't really build up to anything.
I did play this while I was also playing soma, so that may have soured my view of it. Because Soma knew how to use philosophy to create an IMPACT. While in Talos, it's there to give semblance of depth.
And I think that is a clumsy, borderline dishonest approach.
Still loved the game, it's absolutely not a deal breaker for me, just... a bit of a shame overal.
As for Gehenna - that thing just straight up filtered me. I'm too bad at puzzles to get anywhere in that expansion.
You've worded it really nicely and the comparison with SOMA works well. The story in the DLC was based around online interactions between those androids in a TUI forum, where you get a good idea of each user (which you get to rescue via puzzles) and it was handled so much better.
The story is at its best when it's not trying to sound deep. I wish this was the approach they took in the entire game. > Still loved the game, it's absolutely not a deal breaker for me, just... a bit of a shame overal.
Ultimately, it's the puzzles that matter but yeah, here's hoping that the sequel has better writing.
i'm thinking of doing the same. also i never played the dlc
The DLC is what made this game go from 7/10 to 10/10.
existing, mostly, considering his knowledge and perception were wholly formed through the histories of mankind available to him. if all you could know of humankind is recorded history and never had actual interaction, you might end up like him.
awesome game. awesome puzzles. shitload of easter eggs. awesome dlc which is even harder than the base game.
the texts in game are interesting and makes your joggin crackin but you can skip it
One of the best puzzle games of all time. It's up there with the OG Myst. I am excited for the sequel, it looks like it's going to be bigger and better in every way.
I wonder where they'll even go with the sequel. It has to be a totally different setting surely? Like they wouldn't just reuse the same themes and ideas and world of the first game? That would be disappointing. Whatever they choose to do I will still buy it and play it though, I liked the first one so much
existing, mostly, considering his knowledge and perception were wholly formed through the histories of mankind available to him. if all you could know of humankind is recorded history and never had actual interaction, you might end up like him.
So he is your average anon then. Terminally online and never known interaction with another person.
I wouldn't say that, Milton is untouched in a way that an average anon wouldn't be able to be, a cold, "rational" intellect that doesn't have any outside input is a far cry from the heavily self reinforced cynicism and jadedness obtained from being terminally online. I'd almost say he's the exact opposite of the average anon, thinking about it, since Milton is (mostly) completely isolated, while anons issue is being full bore strapped into the collective shitpile that is the internet.
>Like they wouldn't just reuse the same themes and ideas and world of the first game?
I have no idea, but I'm guessing they wouldn't do that. Maybe it's gonna be something about how they find out that humans aren't actually extinct, but this is just pure guesswork.
i like myst series and i have nostalgia but honestly riven is the only really great one, the first one is super simple these days. it's interesting historically though
I think Myst will always be the best one simply because it was just such a new and weird experience at the time. Don't get me wrong, Riven is cool too, but it wasn't a mindblowing "wow, this is crazy, I have no idea what's going on" vibe like Myst did.
i like myst series and i have nostalgia but honestly riven is the only really great one, the first one is super simple these days. it's interesting historically though
you can ignore all the story since it's told through computer terminals and audio logs. the game is insanely dense with puzzles. puzzles within puzzles.
why does everyone hate those? those were my favorite puzzles in the original game
they were kinda like time travel, your past self had to help your future self and you had to plan accordingly. it made for some pretty interesting puzzles
I wish there were more games like talos principle where you see conversations between people while puzzling your way through. it was cool to see other character discuss the entire experience. its sad that its wholly unique to this game
One of my favorite things about it is that it allows you to break the puzzles/find alternative solutions.
It doesn't go "what? You found an exploit or a different solution from the one we intended?! IT'S PATCHING TIME!" like certain other puzzle games and the devs are fully aware of and even encourage it like when you finish the last puzzle on your own and at the end one of Croteam's devs spawns in to help you with the final part.
i loved that you can explore your enviroments. all the areas felt large and there was something to find in all of them. the stars were great and pavloed me into checking if i can see another puzzle area from within a puzzle area
I'm ducking out due to spoilers and not being done, but it's safe to say this'll be my favorite piece of media ever. I love everything about it. It's completely thematically cohesive in ways other works only dream about. I hope it sticks the landing. Ducking out don't bother replying.
Not, that's bait.
Nothing making sense
Fun.
transhumanism and pretty scenery with bombs and scary god asmr
Puzzles and philosophy. Also whatever you do, do not ascend the tower.
>do not ascend the tower
this isn't opening a sarcophage or the cake is a lie, you can ascend the tower just fine.
Do bot tempt the child you serpent
DO NOT ASCEND THE TOWER MY CHILD
BEGONE FOUL SHITPOSTER, THOU SHALT TORMENT THIS ANON NO MORE!
SIRS DO NOT ASCEND THE TOWER SIRS
DO NOT ASCEND
DO NOT ASCEND
Shut up Samsara
Puzzle and gibberish shits
point laser thing to something puzzles and clone yourself puzzles. the most cliche and tedious puzzles known to mankind. technically there was block pushing in those puzzles so that makes it even worse cliche.
it's still alright game but you better like dem laser directing
Fun puzzles, though if you are more of a veteran puzzle player, you might find the game way too easy. I am AWFUL at puzzles, and I found the difficulty exactly ideal for me, which makes me think it must be very easy for most other people.
You'll also get pretty though repetetive environments, and a story that is mixture of great and well written human side of things, and some trully terrible and shallow "philosophy" that is not really worth paying attention to.
Seriously, the whole "transhumanism" theme of the game is not well handled. The game tries to explore philosophy of mind and does it in a very convoluted fashion, but ultimately does not have anything really interesting to say about it. And it can get borderline obnoxious at times. If you want a game that explores transhumanism and philosophy of mind specifically, you'll be much better served by something like SOMA.
But again, there is a second layer to the storline, the story of what happened to people, one that is purely about relatable characters and their minor struggles, and that side of the narrative is genuinely good.
Overal, it's a fun little distraction, though not one of those games I'd argue you MUST play.
The puzzles in the main game were really easy but some of those admin puzzles in the DLC had me scratching my head for hours. Also stars in the entire game were a great challenge.
I really hope that they spike up the difficulty in the sequel. The setting and the few screenshots look amazing.
Unfortunately I agree about the story. Sometimes it hits the perfect spot which makes it bittersweet but most of the time, the writing was very basic and cringey. The DLC has surprisingly great story and amazing puzzles.
>Sometimes it hits the perfect spot which makes it bittersweet but most of the time, the writing was very basic and cringey.
Yeah. The people talking about how their time is running out - that was what resonated well with me.
But the philosophy thing... as someone who actually studied this shit for a good while - the game just does not have anything to actually say on that matter. It tries to obfuscate it by making it all sound more important than it is, but ultimately it's just a chain of the more common and popular philosophical texts on this matter with very little context or even shared throughline, just "Look, we know a lot of philosophers talking about philosophy of mind, read our excerpts."
Which does feel - and I hate to use this word, but in this case I think it is fair - pretentious. It felt like they were trying to impress you with how complex these texts sound, hoping that you would not notice that they don't really build up to anything.
I did play this while I was also playing soma, so that may have soured my view of it. Because Soma knew how to use philosophy to create an IMPACT. While in Talos, it's there to give semblance of depth.
And I think that is a clumsy, borderline dishonest approach.
Still loved the game, it's absolutely not a deal breaker for me, just... a bit of a shame overal.
As for Gehenna - that thing just straight up filtered me. I'm too bad at puzzles to get anywhere in that expansion.
You've worded it really nicely and the comparison with SOMA works well. The story in the DLC was based around online interactions between those androids in a TUI forum, where you get a good idea of each user (which you get to rescue via puzzles) and it was handled so much better.
The story is at its best when it's not trying to sound deep. I wish this was the approach they took in the entire game.
> Still loved the game, it's absolutely not a deal breaker for me, just... a bit of a shame overal.
Ultimately, it's the puzzles that matter but yeah, here's hoping that the sequel has better writing.
The DLC is what made this game go from 7/10 to 10/10.
>in Talos, it's there to give semblance of depth
exactly this
@641452206
do not listen to this fricking snake
idk why you're trying to make a meme of such a shallow plotline.
the puzzles are good, the philosophical questions are fine, the plot is mediocre.
>Don't have fun. Be sad just like me.
Whatever you make out of it.
what the FRICK was his problem? Man did it feel good to serve him and make his sniveling ass seethe at my superior intellect
existing, mostly, considering his knowledge and perception were wholly formed through the histories of mankind available to him. if all you could know of humankind is recorded history and never had actual interaction, you might end up like him.
My best friend, Milton the pseud sperg!
A fun puzzle game with an insane amount of easter eggs and a pretentious story.
awesome game. awesome puzzles. shitload of easter eggs. awesome dlc which is even harder than the base game.
the texts in game are interesting and makes your joggin crackin but you can skip it
>shitload of easter eggs.
this drew me in a lot tbh, there's a lot of secret shit in this game and it's rlly fun trying to figure everything out
A perfect 10/10 game. A masterpiece. Almost made me believe in God. Holy fricking holiest of holies.
One of the best puzzle games of all time. It's up there with the OG Myst. I am excited for the sequel, it looks like it's going to be bigger and better in every way.
I wonder where they'll even go with the sequel. It has to be a totally different setting surely? Like they wouldn't just reuse the same themes and ideas and world of the first game? That would be disappointing. Whatever they choose to do I will still buy it and play it though, I liked the first one so much
So he is your average anon then. Terminally online and never known interaction with another person.
I wouldn't say that, Milton is untouched in a way that an average anon wouldn't be able to be, a cold, "rational" intellect that doesn't have any outside input is a far cry from the heavily self reinforced cynicism and jadedness obtained from being terminally online. I'd almost say he's the exact opposite of the average anon, thinking about it, since Milton is (mostly) completely isolated, while anons issue is being full bore strapped into the collective shitpile that is the internet.
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I always enjoy the irony of the extremes being more similar to each other than the middle.
>Like they wouldn't just reuse the same themes and ideas and world of the first game?
I have no idea, but I'm guessing they wouldn't do that. Maybe it's gonna be something about how they find out that humans aren't actually extinct, but this is just pure guesswork.
I think Myst will always be the best one simply because it was just such a new and weird experience at the time. Don't get me wrong, Riven is cool too, but it wasn't a mindblowing "wow, this is crazy, I have no idea what's going on" vibe like Myst did.
i like myst series and i have nostalgia but honestly riven is the only really great one, the first one is super simple these days. it's interesting historically though
I just want puzzles, not all this pseudo intellectual bullshit. I'm sure its all very deep if you're a 17 year old stoner.
you can ignore all the story since it's told through computer terminals and audio logs. the game is insanely dense with puzzles. puzzles within puzzles.
You can ignore pretty much all of the story if you want but unlike shit like the witness the story is somewhat decent.
I should replay talos principle before the sequel comes out
i'm thinking of doing the same. also i never played the dlc
I remember liking the dlc but being disappointed that there weren't as many recording puzzles
>dlc doesn't have many recording puzzles
you convinced me
why does everyone hate those? those were my favorite puzzles in the original game
they were kinda like time travel, your past self had to help your future self and you had to plan accordingly. it made for some pretty interesting puzzles
9/10 of the recording puzzles were just nested puzzles that were immediately driven up to 11.
>weren't as many recording puzzles
Fricking sold.
Daily reminder that kitten died in an "accident"
Brain dead puzzles that can be completed in your sleep
Don't respond to obvious bait.
Good game, though I thought it outstayed it's welcome. The kitten is an easter egg that only appears in the end credits if you perform a certain task
i had to stop playing this game because it gave me motion sickness
>filtered by the story in a puzzle game
you can literally skip all of the story this isn't portal 2
I wish there were more games like talos principle where you see conversations between people while puzzling your way through. it was cool to see other character discuss the entire experience. its sad that its wholly unique to this game
One of my favorite things about it is that it allows you to break the puzzles/find alternative solutions.
It doesn't go "what? You found an exploit or a different solution from the one we intended?! IT'S PATCHING TIME!" like certain other puzzle games and the devs are fully aware of and even encourage it
like when you finish the last puzzle on your own and at the end one of Croteam's devs spawns in to help you with the final part.
>spoiler
kino
i loved that you can explore your enviroments. all the areas felt large and there was something to find in all of them. the stars were great and pavloed me into checking if i can see another puzzle area from within a puzzle area
I'm ducking out due to spoilers and not being done, but it's safe to say this'll be my favorite piece of media ever. I love everything about it. It's completely thematically cohesive in ways other works only dream about. I hope it sticks the landing. Ducking out don't bother replying.
>crisscross conundrum advanced
Virgin cat enjoyers VS Chad Frog Persons.
Gorgeous, atmospheric, MYST-like puzzle adventure.
Tons of Easter eggs.
THE biggest graphics options menuS you've ever seen.
Also the Road To Gehenna story DLC is even better than the main campaign. Play it afterwards!