>the unquestionable best entry in the series maybe next to 1
>one of the few rpgs where you can actually side with the "villian" faction
>the perfect mix between gameplay and story with factions that are decently written
>decisions actually matter in this RPG
>still makes bethesdrones seethe more than a decade later
>made in a shack with a hammer and nail in under a year
How did they do it?
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Avellone's magic pen.
Forever filtering midwits
Avellone was responsible for Van Buren (the original plan for Fallout 3) which did influence New Vegas's story, but he wasn't the head writer on the actual game, he wrote some of the characters (like Cass and Lanius) and most of the DLCs. I think Josh Sawyer (director) and John Gonzalez (lead narrative designer) were a lot more impactful.
..is
watch out here comes the horde of fallout 3/4 pajeets
We need a 5 day cessation of fallout discussion
>unquestionable best entry
can you do this?
be careful, more than one gun skill might hurt his head
>posting poorly balanced like garbage like Gifted as an example of quality
What's wrong with gifted?
one trait gives me +1 additional attributes but -5 skill points per level, the other trait gives +5 skill points per level but I only get a perk every four levels.
Gifted gifting an extra special point is broken and thus it is used in every serious Fallout 1 build.
there's other good traits too, don't sleep on them. you could make a shitty character in every regard (max-min your stats) and still pull through with tacticful decisions in-game
It's still broken garbage
I like them all but that is my honest opinion. Fallout 1's timer system is really awful and the movement, combat, etc really show their age. Fallout 2 has some of the same issues but they are not as prominent and I personally like Fallout 2's less serious tone more.
for me it goes new vegas>fallout 1>fallout 2>fallout 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fallout 4
I really don't like fallout 4, it ruins everything that the previous games established, I kinda like fallout 3 it's a fun amusement park ride but the thing that made fallout 3 special wasn't in fallout 4. also fallout 1 gets above fallout 2 because it's humor is a bit more well executed in the first entry. but people pretending it's a bad game cause of the reddit humor is cringe it still has it's moments and is worthy of being a sequel. I just wish it didn't rely soo much on the previous game and was a bit more serious
I like Fallout 4 a lot tbh. It does have too much of crafting but the exploration was great. Far Harbor is also one of the best DLCs, it's a shame they didn't do the writing in the rest of the game like they did in Far Harbor
>Fallout 1's timer system is really awful
It's a problem only if you are actively faffing abaut with the sidequest. And it's really present in the 1st half of the game. If you know what you are doing then the times is a non issue.
>Fallout 1's timer system is really awful
Fallout 2's village also runs out of water. But the game is extremely generous in both it gives you a ton of days.
Fallout 1 & 2 are just single player D&D campagins they are literally a very similar system to a Table Top RPG.
>Fallout 2's village also runs out of water.
wait what? I fixed the well at the beginning. is that it?
there's no timer in fallout 2, except for the 13 year(5000 day) automatic end game that's just there because.
but the entire reason arroyo is even sending you out into the world is to get a GECK to save them from the drought.
And 4 isn't even a real rpg. You're moronic.
Gifted is just op
Perks in the original fallout are pretty useless
Those -10% xp can be pretty nasty
You get everything slower which is pretty important considering NV has quite a few important perks and skill checks
>NV has quite a few important perks
Shotgun surgeon being one of them
as a NV Shotgun Enjoyer, this is mandatory for shotgun builds. also, I run And Stay Back! too because its is the most free Crowd Control tool in the game. knocks everything on its ass, even deathclaws, super mutants, yao guais in Honest Hearts. the only thing im not sure it affects is the Dr. Mobius' X-42 Super Robo-Scorpion
10% is NOTHING. I played the game on Hard recently and I never felt like I was underleveled for anything. Yeah perks and skills are important, but there are so many enemies and places to explore in just the first half of the map.
>10% is NOTHING
I believe that benefits equal to drawbacks
-10% xp is pretty insignificant but +5 to all skills is not that important either
>Those -10% xp can be pretty nasty
That's an upside imo. Breaking the NV economy is dead easy and every DLC has at least one piece of loot that will let you bust the Wasteland over your knee. Delaying the power curve a little just keeps things interesting for longer.
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I don't wanna play devils advocate but the anon is right. NV has a plenty of ways to completly negate the Economy.
New Vegas has Skilled lmao
just dont take gifted if you dont wanna be OP. People are gonna take Small Frame to get an easy 10 Agility tho. It's worth the reduced carry weight. Agility is cracked.
>NV
>Balenced
>Gifted
>AGI 10
>Small Guns tag
boring build, at least you didn't dump CHA
I really wish I didn't do small guns.
late game its useless. energy weapons outclass it
Small guns, melee and unarmed are the only decent options in fallout 1
Big and energy guns enter the game by the time it's already finished
Energy weapons moron, the plasma rifle modified with the blacksmith in Adytum or wahtever thats called is OP
I'm playing Fallout 2 and you can get energy weapons at the beginning of the game. It's pretty surprising, it must be the kind of thing people think of when they say FO2>FO1
Seethe
Fallout 1 is so much better than Fallout 2
Word.
And Ian is fricking based, he aint useless people just dont give him the .333 pistol
>people just dont give im the .333 pistol
... You can give companions weapons in Fallout 1? I didn't see a dialogue option for it so I figured you couldn't
New Vegas > Fallout 2 > Fallout 4 > Fallout 1 > Fallout 3
>Fallout 4 over fallout 1
go back
Storywise I'd put F1 right on top, but as far as gameplay goes I agree on this.
2 really felt like 1's gameplay done right.
I'd tie F4 with NV though, as IMO both feel like they add some interesting mechanics to the series
At last someone understands.
2 > 3 > NV > 1 > 4
without the weird troon anti Bethesda bias.
>weird troon anti Bethesda
>Owned
Yeah, you sure did NVtroony
For me
2 > 1 = NV > 3 > 4
And yes I like talking deathclaws and 4th wall breaks.
Pure reddit taste
sorry kiddo, F2 website.
1>3>76>4>nv>2
>1 that low
Holy shit taste
God tier:
>New Vegas
>Fallout
High tier:
>Fallout 2
Mid. tier:
>Fallout 3
Shit tier:
>Fallout 4
Unrelated multiplayer open world survival crafting game tier:
>Fallout 76
I'm playing this right for the first time, completed primm, next i go to mojave outpost
How do you guys decide where to go next, i heard this game had good side quest and i don't want to miss them
Novac, just follow the road after you reach nipton and go from there
Should i go to nipton first or mojave outpost, i pick meyer and need a pardon
idk play the game and figure it out why you asking us?
Just unlock locations on the map and talk to people. You've got fast travel so you can always come back later and poke around.
Just keep following the main road, the game tries pretty hard to get you to see all the cool side quests in it.
>exit goodsprings
>fall asleep for 10 minutes
>arrive at prim
the whole game is like that
boring as frick world to explore
This game really needed a car like Fallout 2. The open world is a fricking slog to walk through.
this is my main problem with this game. they gave you tons of cool weapons but nobody to shoot at. it' so fricking boring.
Kinda true, i wish open world filled with random events like stalker
Except for few place game, i sense no danger in nv while stalker feels like a horror game during night timw
There is a severe lack of true late game enemies outside of DLCs, and the DLCs aren't replayable.
bruh, just cut through quarry junction
>Bu-but muh Deathclaws, Muh Supermutants
Sneak motherfricker, just sneak through the goddamn place
>Deathclaw perception still spot me
Get Gud. literally Get Gud. turn off your radio, turn off light on pip-boy, put points in sneak and have good agility. if all else fails, get a stealth-boy, you blazing homo.
>just put points in to a skill you might not want early game.... just because I said so!
>use a rare item too, you have one don't you?
6/10 bait
You might have an excuse if the game didn't direct you to two separate stealth boys in Goodsprings.
getting real tired of these threads, all with identical thread images too lol play a new game already.
now you know how zelda fans feel
any mod to make the map not shit? is awop still a thing? haven't played in years.
I want to play New Vegas but I'm afraid it will turn me trans, is there any way to prevent it?
Just play fallout 3 right after.
Nobody plays this game as hard as i do
>all of these guns
>no uniques
do you even know how to play? that mountain of Service Rifle is pointless to have, but I bet you keep it because you dont run jury rigging. you poor sod.
I bet you don't know how to reload ammo on a bench you bozo.
I do it because they look cool. I have beat the game over 50 times now i know where every gun is, whats inside every crate and whats behind every door.
I just finished installing all the mods I want for TTW, this will be good
And yes I will play a well-meaning and naive female vault dweller.
>How did they do it?
They already had most of their material from 3. They just had to build off it.
You guys who can't stop sucking Obsidian's dick need to realize most of their good games were made the exact same way. Get hired by a company that already laid the ground work, get way too big for their britches, keep the good stuff, and release a half-finished product.
based moron posting photos.
Are you playing on console?
also 4th fallout thread on the 'log, troony søi just dropped!
Nyeas i have been playing this game vanilla simce it came out.
Try getting that hunting shotgun at the nuclear test site under level 2 on hardcore mode. Very hard.
It must feel bad being a NV troony these days. Todd deleted their game, Tim Caine called them out. Even reddit turned against them. Sad.
yea sis! luckily Todd blessed us with fallout 3 and 4, and even gave us a multiplayer entry so we can dilate together! Yay!,
Are there actually any memorable characters from 3 and 4? Because other than Danse and Fawkes I barely remember anyone good.
because you have shit taste. just butch and their tunnel snakes are more memorable than any character in new vegas.
I don't even remember the names of the other two tunnel snakes
Brick & Black person or something.
Brick & Paul i dont remember.
FO3 has literally none. Only the Tenpenny Tower quest presents a moral dilemma and the Oasis Harold one because thats a Fallout 1 character.
FO4 Paladin Danse & Nick Valentine are well written because its literally the plot of Blade Runner. I like Cait because I want to frick her she is so hot, thats it.
FO3 is legit the worst mainline Fallout
>I like Cait because I want to frick her she is so hot, thats it.
Cait is also propably the best Companion gameplaywise next to Dogmeat. She is the least picky and Allows you to nicely Metagame with Drugs from Diamond city Blues.
It's funny that Tenpenny Tower was so maligned for the twist that the ghouls WILL actually kill everyone inside, but it's one of the only morally grey quests in the entire game. In retrospect, there's nothing wrong with the ghouls murdering them all. Why shouldn't they, after all?
I only remember Butch. There are a few names that I remember, but I don't remember anything about their actual character. The companions in Fallout 4 are mostly memorable, but I have very negative opinions associated with half of them.
I remember Fawkes mostly because how insanely broken he Was with Broken(heh) Steel. Like you actively had to try to get him killed. Then Again i tend to play quite cautiously.
Fawkes can single handedly carry you in the late game, in the last mission where the BoS goes to war with the Enclave to take over the purification plant. You can get away without doing anything just walking forward & Fawkes will kill everything.
Some people say Paladin Cross with the tbi-51 armor and that legendary gatling laser from the death claw cave can mog Fawkes but meh one has to really go out of their way to get those things. The companions in FO3 have almost zero personality anyway which is kinda cringe or kino depending how you see it.
FO1 was the same way anyway. Katja is a punk hoe that hates dogs, Ian is a caravan mercenary edgy metal guy, Tycho is some desert ranger sniper. Thats it. Nothing more to them.
Charon also rapes anything and everything with just his combat shotgun. To be honest, I can't remember any other companions. Butch?
moira (she cute)
amanda (she's a b***h)
butch (he's moronic)
dad (biggest idiot in the game)
dukov
and that's just of the top of my head
I only like the Outcasts in FO3 it really feels like an actual BoS progression.
>You, a nobody goes around finding tech to turn in
>eventually gain their trust
>enter their base
I wish it was an actual faction you were capable of ranking into and all that. They fricked it up.
If FO3 was a game about looking for weird tech for the BoS Outcasts it would have been better, the GECK n shit, all of it.
I remember Autumn. Also that Magic the gathering makes him like 1000 times cooler then he was in the game
Master class writing:
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>Courier can nuke faction that dislikes him
>Todd destroys New Vegas stuff
Damm...Now that's meta
they just cared about the story and the setting
Because it's essentially a total overhaul mod for F3
Frick off vegas troony
>one of the few rpgs where you can actually side with the "villian" faction
i think there's no villain faction, you choose your autism
NV has Like 2 relatively fleshed out major factions since the Authors started with them. Legion is undeveloped, the authos even said so. Yes Man is bassicaly a "All the other factions don't like me"
Why can't I mod my guns? I bought different attachments but when I press X to mod gun it pulls up a blank window.
you just click on the mods in the weapon screen it auto equips
>one of the few rpgs where you can actually side with the "villian" faction
>unlike that shitty butthesta fallout amirite?
meanwhile, back in reality
>play fallout 3
>get a quest by "le evil rich white guy" to blow up a town with a nuke within 20 minutes
Why is everyone such a liar?
But that's different
But that shit is bad thats from the 2000s era when Fable was popular and people asked for "can you be evil as an option" in games without any regard for writing it was just for the sake of being able to be "le evil", thats shit writing.
That's just silly.
nitpick, also you can't side with the enclave in the game and no inserting a thing that poisons the water after killing thousands of their troops doesn't count
NV gives you the option to side with a gang and wipe out your starting town within 5 minutes.
Plus you can side with the Legion on the main fricking quest and order the Khans to provide backup.
How did Obsidian do it? How did they make one of the greatest games of all time in an otherwise terrible franchise?
they made a political intrigue story that made sense in the setting they world built
Started a new run last week-end. Playing this one like a stealth game for the first time. I had fun decimating the Powder Gangers in the prison with a switchblade.
I'm doing a moron build with unarmed, obviously going legion it's fun as hell
how does this relate to anything I posted you schizo homosexual
my culture > your culture
lol you moronic americ**t have no culture
my country exists since more than 1200 years
institute was written moronic because bethesda wanted a bad guy faction like the enclave who just wants to exterminate the wastelanders and repopulate the surface with their pure humanity, but couldn't use the enclave like always since their faction got destroyed in fallout 3 and fallout 2, and fallout 1
but with the TV show, the enclave is back again, until they inevitably have their faction destroyed again for a 4th time. so i don't get why they even cared
also oblivion a shit too
Excuse me, but please post your selfies on /soc/ from now on
meds
> Can side with the villain faction.
In Skyrim you can side with the Empire.
Can't side with Alduin. Or Dagoth Ur. Or Mehrunes Dagon. Or Tharn. Or Mannimarco.
NV has more roleplaying than all of TES.
>one of the few rpgs where you can actually side with the "villian" faction
but you cant side with benny
You can, but he'll betray your ass again.
kinda true. also its funny that that is the kind of woman that is seen as a beta female and unatractive because she never takes initiative like giga stacies do, where they see a man they want grab his wiener, lead him to the nearest bathroom and frick his brains out then he becomes obsessed with her.
Pipers always finish last. Caits are successful.
THE BEAR AND THE BULL
>THE BEAR AND THE BULL
THE BEAR AND THE BULL
>THE BEAR AND THE BULL
THE BEAR AND THE BULL
>THE BEAR AND THE BULL
kino will to power Black person man, one of the very few well written Black folk in fiction
There is always a lot of cope about Fallout 1 but it has genuinely awful gameplay issues. It makes it hard to play it even as someone who enjoyed Fallout 2
they are basically the same game lol. Its just a rolling dice simulator like a DnD campaign moron.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout2/mods/42
whats the difference lol. That you dont have to trade in caps over and over. I liked this, it makes my companions be effective pack mules.
It had an awful plot but I will defend the exploration in Fallout 3. NV is a much better game but its world feels empty between major locations. 3 had a lot of very memorable side quests too.
Sorry I think you meant to post fallout 2
are you moronic? you can't side with the enclave you fricking idiot
No but fallout 2 is the indisputable best game in the series anon. I didn't read the rest of the post
ok it's a close 2nd or 3rd with fallout 1, I still really like the game tho but the fact you can't side with the enclave really takes some points off
No game lets you side with the villains. That's some Hay's Code shit. You can't let the player do objectively bad stuff unless you pull a Spec Ops: The Line and make them feel like a total prick about it and tell them they're going to Hell for being a terrible human being in a video game.
if that's so then why when I have to beat the game I have to kill frank horrigan?
NO NO NO
FALLOUT 76 IS THE BEST ONE YOU RACIST NAZI
I feel like a lot of people really really really want this series to be good but the flaws rear their heads every single time, no matter what game it is
That's tragic
are you cis? probably why you don't get it. this is a series for trans people unironically.
you wont do shit
My first playthrough of Fallout NV was on PS3. AMA
How achy is your back grandpa?
it had a lot of bugs back then
That's not a question, that's a factual statement
no DLC though, right? the game has become unplayably unstable for me anytime i've done a couple DLC things and tried to continue along the main game
No DLC, hell I remember the infamous 2011 PSN outage happened when either DM or HH released which fricked me over since I had to do a fresh reinstall because something got fricked in the load order for the DLCs and the attack happened right as I needed to redownload it.
How many times did you crash while leaving Dinky in Novac
Oh nice, me too. Did your PS3 crashed when you tired to make your way to the Great Khans?
Pretty sure it crashed in so many different scenarios I can't be bothered to remember any specific crash
Isn't New Vegas very much a trans game?
no it's just trans take a liking to it for some fricking reason, then bethesdrones cope and use that as an excuse to shit on it while pretending their games are any better
>no it's just trans take a liking to it for some fricking reason
because its a good game anyone can run and make a female character and install mods in, so they get to roleplay pretend that they are women
You can do that in the bethesda games too though. Undeniably there's something about NV specifically that draws people of gender.
that you can chose a faction based on California which is filled with aids and homosexuals
Yes
Yes. Little eggies like
are in denial of it, tho, just like they're in denial of their true gender!
>Annual New Vegas playthrough
>"Hmmmm. I'm thinking, Cyborg Cowboy this time"
>last 5 playthroughs were this
>download the appropriate clothing mods
>exit doc mitchels house
>player.additem the clothing items (FNVEdit them to make them not OP)
>equip
Time for some kino bros. Wonder who i'll side with this time Mr House like the last 5 times
Hold your tongue wastrel