>Yu puts his hand in the TV >Police now believe him
Sure, that would also cause 1000 other headaches and Yu will probably be taken in by the government. But at least he could prove it.
They're most likely very well aware considering Persona related shenanigans have been going on since humanity has come around and there's been quite a few large scale events.
Plus there's multiple massive business conglomerates knee deep in that shit.
You would think "the government probably knows about this" applies to most fiction featuring reoccurring supernatural phenomena.
How would you even keep the lid on that shit?
They're most likely very well aware considering Persona related shenanigans have been going on since humanity has come around and there's been quite a few large scale events.
Plus there's multiple massive business conglomerates knee deep in that shit.
That depends on whether Nusona is actually in direct continuity with Oldsona. If they're in continuity, then I'd imagine that Yatagarasu would keep an eye on that shit and make sure the government doesn't know too much. If they're not in continuity (which I'm more inclined to believe because Yatagarasu didn't do jack-fricking-shit in P5 despite it taking place in Tokyo), then I think Persona-related incidents are probably a little too on the down-low for the government to be able to take notice. In P3, all Persona/Shadow activity took place in the Dark Hour, which is impossible to monitor. In P4, you could only enter TVs with the power of Persona in the first place. In P5, Yaldabaoth controlled any and all access to Mementos.
>That depends on whether Nusona is actually in direct continuity with Oldsona
The Kirijo group split off from the Nanjo group, which is mentioned (among a billion other P2 references) in P3 by her father - that's the biggest, most in your face "yeah this is the same universe" thing.
There's a billion other sign posts, of course (like Philemon being in both Q and Q2 and actually getting lines in 2, in which he talks to Joker), but that's the most direct one.
Those are just half-assed references. Here's the core issue: It's easy to namedrop the Nanjos or have Philemon "speak". But none of those things actually matter. What actually matters are whether the worldbuilding and consequences of previous games actually reach the Nusona games. They generally don't. Nothing that's established in or occurred in P1 or P2 are relevant in P3. There's a reason I mentioned Yatagarasu specifically. Ostensibly, The Oldsona games take place in the Devil Summoner world. Yatagarasu, a shadow group that attempts to control all Devill Summoner activity, exists in the Devil Summoner world. The Yatagarasu have ties to the Kuzunohas, who protect Tokyo from demon activity. Neither Yatagarasu nor the Kuzunoha Clan mobilized when Yaldabaoth pulled his bullshit on Tokyo, their primary base of operations.
The reality is that Nusona has completely and totally ignored the concept of Devil Summoners for fifteen years.
I always thought Nusona took place in the world where Tatsuya kept his side of the agreement with Philemon and they never met. So most of the staples still exist but got Butterfly Effected and P2 never took place.
But that's just me.
That wouldn't explain the total absence of Yatagarasu and Devil Summoners. I think Persona 5 taking place in Tokyo really kinda fricked over the continuity.
Yes according to p4 arena the glowies know there are mystical mind powers, they just outsource all the persona related problems to mitsuru because its easier
>they just outsource all the persona related problems to mitsuru because its easier
I always found that weird. Isn't it better when you personally know or even control problems related to Shadow World/Expanse? They basically gave Mitsuru a carte blanche, which she could easily use against them
If you're not a Persona User, you can't enter these shadow areas to begin with. Also, it's funny to me how the Kirijo Group is in charge of all supernatural activity and not someone else. Not the Nanjos of course, who cares about them? Devil Summoners? The frick are those?
Nusona really does not care about anything other than what happens in its games. Remember when we saw those silhouettes and people were swearing up and down that they were DEFINITELY Oldsona characters? Even if that were true (which I doubt because Nusona writes don't give two shits about Oldsona), this implies that characters like Nanjo defer to Mitsuru. Consider that for a sec.
I'd assume the Kirijo Group is only the authority because Mitsuru took the extra step to expand SEES into the Shadow Ops. I've never played 1 or EP, but does Nanjo have a group dedicated to persona/shadow tech? I thought he was just the owner of a business conglomerate. I think it'd make sense he'd defer to Mitsuru since her grandpa was ran Ergo Labs and probably stockpiled a frickton of information and strange tech.
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Nanjo was a solo operative who just handled Persona-related matters on his own. He seems to have some type of information network set up, but it looks like he never bothered to actually put up proper countermeasures, meaning he's probably the only agent the Nanjo Group has who can handle these sorts of matters.
For better or for worse, the Nanjo Group completely inadequate for dealing with these sorts of matters.
Good sir, could you please provide sauce for this beautiful picture?
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Spoonfeeding morons but that's a very good picture.
Nobody believing about the TV World in the end except for those with Personas honestly feels more natural, especially after the game ends and the cast can move on with their lives. Then you think about Persona 5 and how many secondary characters eventually learn about the Metaverse (like Sojiro and Sae) and by the end of the game it's just: >Oh, so your powers are gone until the next mandatory spinoff adventure? Guess now you can go back to being regular kids with no strings attached. We'll also never mention this again or think anything about it.
After Sojiro learns Morgana can talk he never once brings it up again after that. He just thinks the cat's quirky.
Makes sense with a middle aged man. He's seen enough shit in his life that it just doesn't bother him. Now anyone decently young would be talking about that shit non-stop.
I think I'd agree with that if he were just some retired old dude, with or without the government shit he's dealt with. But Wakaba's death REALLY fricked him up, so you'd think he'd be a little more interested in the supernatural world that was actually the cause of her death all along. Once he gets that closure he's surprisingly content with just moving on.
Who else besides Sojiro and Sae learn about the Metaverse? Most (if not all) of the confidents do realize you're one of the phantom thieves because (you)'re shit at keeping secrets but I don't remember any explicitly having knowledge of the metaverse, not even from mishima. Then again I haven't played in a long bit so maybe I skipped past something like a moron
It's funny that after P5 events glowies probably realized that Adachi is their prime way of exploring and manipulating the metaverse since he's at their possession, bet he's some kind of special agent that does government work via metaverse
You need a Metaverse app to enter Mementos. Without it, not even a Persona User can enter. The Metaverse app no longer exists after P5, but there's EMMA which has similar functions. However, with EMMA, you need to be a Persona User in order to access its Metaverse functions. If you're not a Persona User, you need a Persona User to bring you along. AND you need a target and their keyword.
Mementos is just a shitty somewhat higher up layer of the collective unconscious.
Any sufficiently powerful enough Persona user who has practiced for it can get into the collective unconscious just fine.
Maki Sonomura can by the time of P5 probably get down to like, the lowest normal level, for example (Kadath).
That's just your headcanon. No one has ever entered the Collective Unconscious without some sort of external catalyst. Your entire headcanon is predicated on the idea that Maki is the best Persona User ever and all Nusona Users are shitters who can't do half of what he does. Which may be true, but even then, and I repeat: no one has ever entered the Collective Unconscious without some sort of catalyst.
You need a Metaverse app to enter Mementos. Without it, not even a Persona User can enter. The Metaverse app no longer exists after P5, but there's EMMA which has similar functions. However, with EMMA, you need to be a Persona User in order to access its Metaverse functions. If you're not a Persona User, you need a Persona User to bring you along. AND you need a target and their keyword.
I think glowBlack folk and adachi somehow would figure a new way of entering metaverse or at least something close to it
Nah, they need a bit more than that this time. Remember, it already came out that the first guy they arrested for the crime turned out to just be a copycat killer. And the second guy they arrested, Namatame, was only responsible for Nanako's kidnapping, although there's little evidence for it as well given that all the IT can really do is explain that they found her in the electronics store in Junes. Because of those previous two arrests, they can't just accept him at his word. It's not really enough for them to save face. They need actual proof that Adachi did it, especially since he's a cop, which further muddles things.
Adachi being a cop is especially a bad look for them, so I'd imagine that they're kinda hoping that he went nuts from stress and hallucinated the whole thing and that he's not REALLY the killer at all.
They're not really willing to put him on trial because his explanation is nuts and they probably don't want to believe he's the actual killer. Honestly? He's probably gonna walk.
Yu has a thin blue line decal on the back window his F150 of course he doesn't think that.
>Yu puts his hand in the TV
>Police now believe him
Sure, that would also cause 1000 other headaches and Yu will probably be taken in by the government. But at least he could prove it.
You would have to imagine that governments know all about Personas in-universe by this point.
They're most likely very well aware considering Persona related shenanigans have been going on since humanity has come around and there's been quite a few large scale events.
Plus there's multiple massive business conglomerates knee deep in that shit.
At the same time, introducing the government to the setting sounds like a bad idea.
>introducing the government to the setting sounds like a bad idea.
Haha...
You would think "the government probably knows about this" applies to most fiction featuring reoccurring supernatural phenomena.
How would you even keep the lid on that shit?
That depends on whether Nusona is actually in direct continuity with Oldsona. If they're in continuity, then I'd imagine that Yatagarasu would keep an eye on that shit and make sure the government doesn't know too much. If they're not in continuity (which I'm more inclined to believe because Yatagarasu didn't do jack-fricking-shit in P5 despite it taking place in Tokyo), then I think Persona-related incidents are probably a little too on the down-low for the government to be able to take notice. In P3, all Persona/Shadow activity took place in the Dark Hour, which is impossible to monitor. In P4, you could only enter TVs with the power of Persona in the first place. In P5, Yaldabaoth controlled any and all access to Mementos.
>That depends on whether Nusona is actually in direct continuity with Oldsona
The Kirijo group split off from the Nanjo group, which is mentioned (among a billion other P2 references) in P3 by her father - that's the biggest, most in your face "yeah this is the same universe" thing.
There's a billion other sign posts, of course (like Philemon being in both Q and Q2 and actually getting lines in 2, in which he talks to Joker), but that's the most direct one.
Those are just half-assed references. Here's the core issue: It's easy to namedrop the Nanjos or have Philemon "speak". But none of those things actually matter. What actually matters are whether the worldbuilding and consequences of previous games actually reach the Nusona games. They generally don't. Nothing that's established in or occurred in P1 or P2 are relevant in P3. There's a reason I mentioned Yatagarasu specifically. Ostensibly, The Oldsona games take place in the Devil Summoner world. Yatagarasu, a shadow group that attempts to control all Devill Summoner activity, exists in the Devil Summoner world. The Yatagarasu have ties to the Kuzunohas, who protect Tokyo from demon activity. Neither Yatagarasu nor the Kuzunoha Clan mobilized when Yaldabaoth pulled his bullshit on Tokyo, their primary base of operations.
The reality is that Nusona has completely and totally ignored the concept of Devil Summoners for fifteen years.
I always thought Nusona took place in the world where Tatsuya kept his side of the agreement with Philemon and they never met. So most of the staples still exist but got Butterfly Effected and P2 never took place.
But that's just me.
That wouldn't explain the total absence of Yatagarasu and Devil Summoners. I think Persona 5 taking place in Tokyo really kinda fricked over the continuity.
Yes according to p4 arena the glowies know there are mystical mind powers, they just outsource all the persona related problems to mitsuru because its easier
>they just outsource all the persona related problems to mitsuru because its easier
I always found that weird. Isn't it better when you personally know or even control problems related to Shadow World/Expanse? They basically gave Mitsuru a carte blanche, which she could easily use against them
If you're not a Persona User, you can't enter these shadow areas to begin with. Also, it's funny to me how the Kirijo Group is in charge of all supernatural activity and not someone else. Not the Nanjos of course, who cares about them? Devil Summoners? The frick are those?
Nusona really does not care about anything other than what happens in its games. Remember when we saw those silhouettes and people were swearing up and down that they were DEFINITELY Oldsona characters? Even if that were true (which I doubt because Nusona writes don't give two shits about Oldsona), this implies that characters like Nanjo defer to Mitsuru. Consider that for a sec.
>Not the Nanjos of course, who cares about them? Devil Summoners? The frick are those?
SMT lost.
I'd assume the Kirijo Group is only the authority because Mitsuru took the extra step to expand SEES into the Shadow Ops. I've never played 1 or EP, but does Nanjo have a group dedicated to persona/shadow tech? I thought he was just the owner of a business conglomerate. I think it'd make sense he'd defer to Mitsuru since her grandpa was ran Ergo Labs and probably stockpiled a frickton of information and strange tech.
Nanjo was a solo operative who just handled Persona-related matters on his own. He seems to have some type of information network set up, but it looks like he never bothered to actually put up proper countermeasures, meaning he's probably the only agent the Nanjo Group has who can handle these sorts of matters.
For better or for worse, the Nanjo Group completely inadequate for dealing with these sorts of matters.
SAUCE
Good sir, could you please provide sauce for this beautiful picture?
Just use image search
me on the left
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Spoonfeeding morons but that's a very good picture.
>don’t mind me just gagged and bound the current most famous pop idol
It's clearly consensual, she's in her Yasoinaba High uniform despite Adachi being a free man and the poster for her Rise film being on the wall.
Nobody believing about the TV World in the end except for those with Personas honestly feels more natural, especially after the game ends and the cast can move on with their lives. Then you think about Persona 5 and how many secondary characters eventually learn about the Metaverse (like Sojiro and Sae) and by the end of the game it's just:
>Oh, so your powers are gone until the next mandatory spinoff adventure? Guess now you can go back to being regular kids with no strings attached. We'll also never mention this again or think anything about it.
After Sojiro learns Morgana can talk he never once brings it up again after that. He just thinks the cat's quirky.
Makes sense with a middle aged man. He's seen enough shit in his life that it just doesn't bother him. Now anyone decently young would be talking about that shit non-stop.
I think I'd agree with that if he were just some retired old dude, with or without the government shit he's dealt with. But Wakaba's death REALLY fricked him up, so you'd think he'd be a little more interested in the supernatural world that was actually the cause of her death all along. Once he gets that closure he's surprisingly content with just moving on.
Who else besides Sojiro and Sae learn about the Metaverse? Most (if not all) of the confidents do realize you're one of the phantom thieves because (you)'re shit at keeping secrets but I don't remember any explicitly having knowledge of the metaverse, not even from mishima. Then again I haven't played in a long bit so maybe I skipped past something like a moron
Thats why its 3>5>>>>4
Your villain is lucky she was not in your game, Adachi would throw himself in the TV after 5 minutes with her
It's funny that after P5 events glowies probably realized that Adachi is their prime way of exploring and manipulating the metaverse since he's at their possession, bet he's some kind of special agent that does government work via metaverse
You need a Metaverse app to enter Mementos. Without it, not even a Persona User can enter. The Metaverse app no longer exists after P5, but there's EMMA which has similar functions. However, with EMMA, you need to be a Persona User in order to access its Metaverse functions. If you're not a Persona User, you need a Persona User to bring you along. AND you need a target and their keyword.
I think glowBlack folk and adachi somehow would figure a new way of entering metaverse or at least something close to it
Mementos is just a shitty somewhat higher up layer of the collective unconscious.
Any sufficiently powerful enough Persona user who has practiced for it can get into the collective unconscious just fine.
Maki Sonomura can by the time of P5 probably get down to like, the lowest normal level, for example (Kadath).
That's just your headcanon. No one has ever entered the Collective Unconscious without some sort of external catalyst. Your entire headcanon is predicated on the idea that Maki is the best Persona User ever and all Nusona Users are shitters who can't do half of what he does. Which may be true, but even then, and I repeat: no one has ever entered the Collective Unconscious without some sort of catalyst.
Only in my wildest dreams, anonymous
> Persona: The Man Who Erased His Name
>dispose roasties and is not even the one directly killing them
>"villain"
>go visit Adachi alone
>he talks big shit
>"You can't shoot me"
>he actually can't
So much for Mr. Serial Killer
didn't he turn himself in and admit to murdering the girls? That's all they need in nippon.
Nah, they need a bit more than that this time. Remember, it already came out that the first guy they arrested for the crime turned out to just be a copycat killer. And the second guy they arrested, Namatame, was only responsible for Nanako's kidnapping, although there's little evidence for it as well given that all the IT can really do is explain that they found her in the electronics store in Junes. Because of those previous two arrests, they can't just accept him at his word. It's not really enough for them to save face. They need actual proof that Adachi did it, especially since he's a cop, which further muddles things.
Adachi being a cop is especially a bad look for them, so I'd imagine that they're kinda hoping that he went nuts from stress and hallucinated the whole thing and that he's not REALLY the killer at all.
enough to at least hold him in a cell though, since he's currently awaiting at the start of his part in arena.
They're not really willing to put him on trial because his explanation is nuts and they probably don't want to believe he's the actual killer. Honestly? He's probably gonna walk.
iirc even Adachi thinks that his confession won't hold up in court so he's trying to find some other way to repent in Arena.
>Honestly? He's probably gonna walk.
Isn't his guilty verdict announced on TV in 5?
They showed his interrogation and that's it
Why didn't Adachi just have sex?
Easier said than done.
Didn't he confessed his crimes to the police after being burned by "friendship is magic" talk?
>He tells them the women willingly crawled in after Adachi told them there were big black wieners inside
>They of course refuse to beleive him
Americans are starting to come home from work, I see.
Time to head to bed!