There games are now 10 years old. I think it's time to admit they belong with Gens 1-5. They are "classic" pokemon and have more in common with the previous gens than they do with Gen7+
>last games with HMS
>last games with grid based map
>last game with the national dex
>last game to carry over significant content from the previous gen like rotation battles, triple battles, medals
>last gen to bring back missing features from the previous gen like berry planting and safari zone
There's 0 reason why Kalos shouldn't be considered old at this point.
Kalos though... oof
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Kalos is also the last region with actual dungeons, though
Gen 5 and 6 are the post Mt. Coronet era
The last good games.
They sucked and nearly everything wrong with "nu pokemon" can be traced to Kalos
>nearly everything wrong with "nu pokemon" can be traced to Kalos
name 10 things
Exp share
Affection
Generational gimmick
Those stiff bland 3D models
KANTOOOOOO
fairy type
No post game
1.Diagonal movement and skates were the warning sign for cutting the tile overworld
2.Start of shitty lowered camera angle that lasted until the fixed camera was gone and made the overworld feel smaller
3.Affection mechanics
4.Origin of short term gimmicks
5.First games to not have any upgrade version(s)
6.Start of cloud service shilling that has resulted in the hideous abomination that Home currently is
7.No direct game-to-game transfer, relys on aforementioned cloud service
8.Character customization
9.Game updates meaning the games can be released with major issues (Lumiose save corruption), meaning the abortion BDSP released as can be hand waved away by morons that don't realize/care that update servers can go away
10.Obvious "Kanto shilling" entry, but specifically the definite signs of unsymmetrical favoritism that is Charizard having 2 megas, which resulted in a champion whose personality is 'Muh Charizard, it's the strongest Pokémon' complete with a regional gimmick that was not reciprocated with the other Kanto starters until DLC added them
11.Semi-related to the previous point, Pikachu's voiced cry, which were so annoying to me I bought the SV dual pack when I heard they reverted it and Eevee's cries, just to show support for that decision
Bonus: >>>>
>I bought the SV dual pack when I heard they reverted it and Eevee's cries, just to show support for that decision
based
Anon, you silly fool!
PLA reverted the cries, don't forget to show your support to the best game!
I'd even take 6 things.
Lysandre was right, humans suck, and the professor knew it too.
generational gimmicks
3D models
affection
exp share
fairies
no good third version
shitty plot after gen 5 tried something new
i cannot remember anything about them. only the big city because it keeps getting referenced in later games for some reason
Old yes but I cant put them in the same group as as gen 1-5 partly because they are 3D but also because they are so easy. Yeah its the last grid based pokemon game but they get hate for good reason.
all of the games from XY onward feel the same because they all use the same 3d assets
and gen 5 reuses sprites from gen 3 so what
Well, yes. They're the same era.
>Gens 1-5
Gen 5, sure, because it's nugen just like XY, but not with gens 1-4.
gen 5 is just as much nu gen as 4
Only Pokémon game I never played so it’s new to me.
Gen 6 will never be a part of the golden era and no amount of revisionism will ever change the fact that Gen 6 started most of the shit modern Pokemon is known for.
like what sweetie? tell us
>like what sweetie
being dogshit
thats subjective
Amazing how its been 10 years and they still cant find any objective flaws in Kalos. Truly the greatest gen of all time.
> Amazing how its been 10 years and they still cant find any objective flaws in Kalos.
* The most forgettable Rivals/Friends/Gym Leaders/E4/Champion/Villain/Villain Team.
* Super Easy.
* The most pathetic rematches against Gym Leaders/E4/Champion.
* Only 72 new pokémon.
* Santalune forest and Viridian Forest
* Snorlax roadblock
* 12 out of 28 megas introduced in XY were kanto megas and only 1 Kalos mega (in ORAS)
* Legendary hunt only has one Kalos mon (Zygarde). It has Mewtwo and Kanto birds
* Pidgey is always the first wild encounter
* Gift Mega Kanto Starter
* Gift Mega Lucario
* Mewtwo and Zard get two megas
* Lysandre is a copy of Cyrus
* Team Flare is first encountered the exact same way as Team Rocket was, right down to picking one of two fossils
* Lysandre labs is a copy of the Rocket hideout with the spin tiles and elevator key hunt
* Poké Ball Factory shares several similarities with the Silph Co. office building in Saffron City: both places are involved in creating Poké Balls, are located in the same city or town as the sixth Gym of the region, get taken over by a villainous team at some point, and both companies' presidents reward the player with a Master Ball after driving the villainous team out of the building.
* Immigrants from or tourists to Kanto talking about how great it is
* The kalos regional dex is made up of kanto pokemon more than any other region (Kanto: 111 (24.2%), even more than fricking kalosmons who make up 15.7%)
* It created the most autistic, self-inserter and toxic anime fandom.
>Sin títuloa (1)
fricking dumb unovaspic
it always amazes me how pokemon fans get so butthurt about kanto references
Pokemon fans don't get butthurt over kanto references. Zoomers get butthurt over kanto references. They're perpetually seething that kanto will always be more popular and relevant than their gen 4/5 slop.
>The most forgettable Rivals
Gen 7
>Friends
True
>Gym Leaders
Gen 9
>E4
Gen 3
>Champion
Alder
>Villain
Gen 3
>Villain Team
Gen 9
>Super Easy.
That's every pokemon game
>The most pathetic rematches against Gym Leaders/E4/Champion.
At least they have rematches
>Kanto references
Who actually cares?
>Gift pokemon
Just don't use them?
>It created the most autistic, self-inserter and toxic anime fandom.
True.
>any objective flaws in Kalos.
Being a f*ench region is enough of a reason
Amazing how he didnt list a single objective flaw.
>Classic
1-2
>Golden
3-5
>Modern
6+
If anything, 6-7 are Silver age now.
How do I plant berries in gen 5?
How do I dive in xy?
You don’t. They put a better more repeatable way to farm money instead that doesn’t require shoving more HMs on your team. How do I plant berries in gen 5?
You don't. They put a better more efficient method of getting berries by allowing you to purchase them instead of tediously waiting instead of playing the game. How do I dive in XY?
>slowly grinding join avenue without the now defunct multiplayer
>more efficient
KEK nice bait
>now defunct
>he doesn't have any friends
Kek how sad and typical
who cares?
fricking berries, really?
no it isn't time for that and it will never be. you just played them as a kid and like them for that. now have a nice day
would have been better if Zygarde wasnt totally wasted
Sun and moon fixed zygarde like it fixed the franchise. Thank god for gen 7 saving us
>five similar buildings one place can never be replaced! It doesn't matter that there are five battle facilities with more diverse challenged spread throughout the region! They must be in one place to count! Therefore, gen 5 bad, while Gen 6 good somehow with only one of these facilities!!!
You're not very smart, are you?
>battle pyramid but worse
>battle dome but worse
>battle factory but worse
>>>>>more diverse
That's hilarious.
>while Gen 6 good somehow with only one of these facilities!!!
Gen 6 has the Battle Institute and the Battle Maison which is just an objectively better version of the Subway.
battle maison doesn't have cute train men therefore it is shit
>all from emerald.
You're a fake fan that doesn't actually like the Gen 4 BF, as you only use its removal to criticize your boogeyman Gen 5. Besides, they have more creative concepts.
>Battle institute.
Gen 5 has this too so it cancels out.
>Maison
literally just the Battle Subway with Triples and Rotations slapped on and a much less creative design. The Subway had a new city made just for it to flesh it out, and Unova has Triples and Rotations actually used throughout the World's design. That's not even including Black tower, White Treehollow, and PWT to tip the scale even more.
>that doesn't actually like the Gen 4 BF
You're right. I don't. Gen 4 being shit doesn't make Gen 5 also not shit.
>literally just the Battle Subway with Triples and Rotations slapped on
Glad you it's just the Maison but worse.
>Glad you it's just the Maison but worse.
They removed leveling you to a certain level in there, therefore it's shit
parroting is an admission of defeat
Once Bank is dead, it will have no connectivity to the previous games.
A perfectly sensible cut-off point right there.
I guess? People can make whatever personal “cutoff points” they want. This was both the last game of Masuda’s era and the first of the modern 3D games. A transition period.
>it's forgettable, that's why I seethe about it every day
9>7>8>6
No, I will not be taking questions at this time.