>There isnt a single good active MMORPG in 2024.
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>There isnt a single good active MMORPG in 2024.
>There isnt a single good active MMORPG in 2024.
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Name one (1) good MMORPG that is not active in 2024
Name one (1) good MMORPG
>MMO
>RPG
>Good game
Pick one
Good. It's a genre of games that is pointless in this day and age and should rightfully die off completely and become obsolete. the less these predatory games suck up and ruin peoples lives, the better.
based. MMOs and live service trash should collectively get fricked. all of them are predatory and a massive time sink, and the playerbases are full of leeching homosexuals thinking they're entitled to everyone else's time or no life third worlders demanding that every game is designed around a play schedule of 14 hours a day
the only reason i still play some of these anymore is because i effectively treat them as single player games with extensive character creators. it's a shame that fully single player games usually don't come with good CC
>the playerbases are full of leeching homosexuals thinking they're entitled to everyone else's time or no life third worlders demanding that every game is designed around a play schedule of 14 hours a day
At first it looks like a sarcastic post, but why is it actually so true? If we take PVE, 90% of the players don't want to lead raids. And when they get into a raid and someone does one mistake, they complain and leave. In PVP it's the same thing: everyone wants a clearing filled with slightly less skilled opponents so they can hop around and slaughter them endlessly. If there is a couple of super-high skilled teams on a server, then "pvp is dead, I am quitting".
Good. Positive interactions with other players are inherently impossible and all interaction between human players should be minimized.
As someone who has played all the great MMORPG’s dating back to the mid 90’s, it pains me that this is the case.
UO
EQ
Lineage
Asherons Call
SWG
Anarchy Online
Shadowbane
Ragnarok…
All dead or dying shells of their former glory. They keep saying the next big one will revive the genre, but it just ends up being a mismanaged p2w piece of shot every time.
Ragnarok Mobile will save MMO
Origin Global came out 3 weeks ago.
>Asheron's Call
That is the one and only MMO I ever played. My whole friend group and I were completely addicted and I saw how it was ruining our lives. I quit after about six months, some of them played for years and a few moved on to WoW which wrecked them- one failed out of college, one became a NEET... sad times. Frick the whole genre.
It's been 20 years and I can't stop thinking of Lineage II, which I barely even played. WoW Raganarok and GW I played for tens of thousands of hours and I don't remember a single thing about them. Curious how the brain works.
This was my first MMO and I "lived inside of it". Kinda like SAO but without virtual reality. No MMORPG today gives me these vibes.
Mabinogi
Genuinely waiting for Brighter Shores to see if there's any hope left. It's bold to announce a release window the same year you announce a new MMO. Most usually don't even give a timeframe or have it 2/3 years out.
ironically the fact that he kept his mouth shut about it until he was ready to go gold is what makes me optimistic about it, even if it'll probably struggle to find any purchase with ziv dominating the MMO space
If it can poach even a decent chunk of RS players it'll probably do well enough. We need more AA MMOs anyways.
like
said, pretty much every RS player from both branches of the game is cautiously optimistic, for me personally if it still has that same charming style of point and click adventure questing im sold
As someone who has played all the great MMORPG’s dating back to the mid 90’s, it pains me that this is the case.
UO
EQ
Lineage
Asherons Call
SWG
Anarchy Online
Shadowbane
Ragnarok…
All dead or dying shells of their former glory. They keep saying the next big one will revive the genre, but it just ends up being a mismanaged p2w piece of shot every time. I was semi-excited for Throne and Liberty, but the more I hear the less hope I have. All we’re left with is small private server passion projects like P99 to bring us anywhere near what we had.
>swg
My Black person, what was your build? I was a TKM/SM 4xxx Doc
black desert online is my game.
I've kinda been interested in trying BDO. It's on sale for $0.99 on Steam right now.. but is there a premium sub? Does it end up pushing more paid shit on you to upgrade gear, if so how far in?
it is a p2w game with fixed market. earning money there directly tied to time spent in game. while combat is fine other aspects is a total shit trash gay
FFXI
Is there such thing as an MMORPG that doesn't have leveling up? Like something equipment based and skill based.
closest is runescape which is also functionally cookie clicker
there is a really easy fix to this, just ban anyone who is a
>carebear
>whale
>groomer
>drama queen
permanently. you can have a MMORPG now.
i find it funny how devs refuse to explore horizontal progression all while casuals favor systems that put a hard lock on the things you can do.
you don't need a number with a bunch of zeros to create a large discrepancy in player skill, but they think that allowing everyone to perform the same activities is "unfair", and that putting content behind paywalls and grind is l'good.
>ban literally 99% of people
>you can have a MMORPG now
A solo MMORPG maybe.
>just ban all four quadrants of the MMO player type taxonomy
congratulations, your multiplayer game has no players now
>just do whatever the freak quadrant wants
congratulations, your multiplayer game has virtually no players apart from a handful of scattered pedophiles, trannies and P2W players, and will die a slow but sure death
A carebear is an mmo term for a moronic idiot who will advocate and moan for all PvP to be patched out of every single damn server of any given game because they view it as sexual harassment, some will even think it is equivalent to IRL murder, and they will dox players who engage in such behavior in hopes those players will be tried and sentenced in a near future when society is more equal and less ignorant about virtual crimes
>will die a slow but sure death
You mean like Mortal Online, Darkfall, Crowfall etc?
What is a carebear
A carebear is an mmo term for people who refuse to engage with pvp on any level and whine about being ganked by pvpers.
so everyone? who wouldn't complain when losing an unfair fight you didn't want?
someone who doesn't treat mmorpgs as facebook
what does facebook have to do with it?
what do 3D chatrooms have to do with gaming?
sorry but i'm old enough to remember when the mmorpg genre was actually alive and actually had players, and back then you could, and definitely had, PvP servers on popular games with big budgets, without some karen moaning to have it removed and to get the players banned, or being taken seriously by any serious company at all. crazy, i know
>what do 3D chatrooms have to do with gaming?
you tell me, what are you talking about?
So am i. And i also remember how UO almost went bottoms up because pvpgays are too stupid to act reasonable, only by the saving grace of Trammel it lived on. Fricking wolves have more braincells than your average pvpgay.
A good MMORPG honestly shouldn't even have PvP outside of optional stuff like dedicated battlegrounds though.
Open world PvP is an idea that's constantly touted as holy gospel by supposed MMORPG lovers but it never works well nowadays. There's about 50 different ways that someone could end up disliking it for every reason someone could actually like it.
stfu carebear homosexual post your address I will gank you in real life
have a nice day psychopath
PvP is always pure evil, you scum are no different from serial killers and child rapists
fricking disgusting rabid animal
you should be crucified and mutilated to death on the cross
I hope your entire family gets raped, mutilated, tortured and murdered in front of you, that is the only way you can feel even a fraction of the fear, despair and sorrow you have inflicted on your victims
why are all of the griefer trash games you say are "real MMORPGs" dead then? no-one will be your prey to rape and torture you disgusting subhuman
have a nice day
have you even looked at what those games looked and played like, moron? back then there were plenty PvP centric games like Lineage 2 that hadn't died yet, and that had content that hadn't gone full moron yet. why the frick would anyone wanna play a broken bugged piece of garbage like "mortal online" that looks like complete fricking shit, over something like Lineage 2, that had much better PvP, and MUCH better content?
>no-one will be your prey to rape and torture you disgusting subhuman
open twitch right now. ALL popular games there are PvP based. battle royale, as shit as that genre is, is literally about killing people and looting their body (sort of like a sandbox mmorpg when you think about it *wink* *wink*). no one cares about your weird qualms. moronic b***hy people like you are a really really really small minority, yet you all seem to think otherwise because when your character dies something feels bad in your heart, so other people must be the same???? awww! that's so so cute.
NTA but the issue seems to be that these players are trying to do something else and then getting stuck in PvP. You play a battle royale and you know what you're getting, and in some cases like Fortnite there are a lot of modes outside the main one for people who want a break from that. I'd compare it more to Fromsoft PvP, something contentious enough that Seamless Co-Op split the community in half since it doesn't have PvP and a ton of people use it
>split the community
it used to be common practice for MMORPG servers to be split, but PvE babies can't allow that
I know the term "carebear" was extensively used in EVE Online, a PVP-centric MMO. I don't know where it came from, but I bet it's something like Ultima Online, a very dangerous game. If the essence of the game is to fight other players, why would you try something else? Of course, PVP baddies didn't like it and came up with the insult.
In Wolrd of Warcraft, open pvp and ganking is shunned upon, so "carebear" is not used.
Wut? In 2006 we called PvE WoW servers "carebear servers"
carebear spotted
>n-n-n-n-no you have to let me poopsock and beat you up
>c-c-c-c-carebear!!!
lol I loved pissing you homosexuals off in eve when I'd dock up as soon as a neutral entered system
stay mad 😉
You
Are you a hobby dev?
Pax Dei I guess
World of Warcraft Classic
World of Warcraft (pservers)
Imagine EVE Online without carebears, whales and drama queens (I haven't met a single groomer there). You enter a big system but everyone either logs out or kills you on the spot. Every PVP fight is decided by numbers, pumped by multiacc-using sweats. Only multiacc exploiters are left in the game because you have barred the carebears out.
>i find it funny how devs refuse to explore horizontal progression
It won't solve everything. Look at Terraria, WoW SoD, Path of Exile with its tons of league mechanics and any other game with side activities (FFXIV maybe?). If you do things that don't have impactful reward, then these things are considered a waste of time. I think the best way to play your MMO is to raise the skill ceiling: Aion, WoW, EVE, Dota 2 and some other games where discrepancy between a noob and a pro is massive are still being played and enjoyed despite being flawed in other areas.
>You enter a big system but everyone either logs out or kills you on the spot. Every PVP fight is decided by numbers, pumped by multiacc-using sweats
That is exactly the state of current EVE.
Damn it's so sad. And some people log their accounts daily and sit in the empty system for hours, looking for blood to spill.
Guild Wars [SPOILER]1[/spoiler]
maybe you should move on to a new genre. could always use more people playing 4x and other games only old boomers play
Fhyzmydude
Follow him!!!
I believe the genre is revivable but people need to understand classes should be completely unique.
I.E Tank should have stances and parry to be like Mordhau or For Honor gameplay is damage mitigation.
Dps is souls like but getting hit just destroys your poise, frick up too badly you freeze open to lethal critical.
Healing should be a rythem game taking beats from the battle pacing. Could be pattapon like just responding to different noises / bgm songs that give environmental protection. Loot degrades / crafting trade economy focused around unteleportable resources. Blessings of teleportation and revives is by choosing a gods protection. Make choices that conform allegiances and quests to encourage PvP between factions. Reward PvP + base stashing + selling mechanics. 'open world extraction system'.
Make town's have politics due to nobles / trades and include infiltration + mandatory events that need to be protected. Archery and magic need a fun mechanic as well. Magic I could see reciting memorised elemental combos for advamced magic. Skill base game requiring degree of intelligence / memory. Archery being FPS isn't enough its too easy of a class and range is always too much of a bonus.
FF14 is good.
SWTOR is good if you play it only for the story.
The Riot MMO will save the genre
oh wait
>dude why don't these new players just happily take it up the ass and entertain my homosexualry?
>what do you mean they can just log out and do something else?
>wait why is my game dying...?
kek
>Wanting to play with other people
the genre was never good
No good MMORPG was ever made, it's a broken concept.
WoW was just popular because early internet hype, you just didn't knew any better.
the MMO as we know it really has no reason to continue existing, everything unique they did is just normal video game stuff now
they're either going to die out or have to radically reinvent themselves
Nothing will ever beat the leveling experience in classic wow
Whoever decided mmo's should be all about endgame instead of spontaneous adventures with other people ruined the entire genre, retail wow is a glorified lobby for m+ and arenas at this point
>Nothing will ever beat the leveling experience in classic wow
You just do it once in your lifetime, then every other time feels like a chore. What is the incentive for playing after that? Speedleveling and whatever people did when Classic launched is soulless.
Seems like good active MMORPG's got canceled just like Slopdown.
I don't really want to play a MMO with twitter users, redditors, and discord troonys where someone gets banned for starting a bad faith politics debate every day. It's a different world now
Fallout 76