Because Sega mogged Nintendo so hard with F-Zero GX that they've never been able to recover.
Nintendo gave F-Zero a massive push, more than they gave most other series: >they made an entire anime series >arcade game >3 GBA games >home game
And they underpreformed so they never made a new one. That's really it. F-Zero fans are whiny b***hes who can't accept that. You could argue that F-Zero is a poor fit for Nintendo since they are more mario-zelda fans. metroid has this same problem.
>Never getting another F-Zero game
F-Zero 99 just came out, and is arguably the best F-Zero game so far. It's literally what I imgained F-Zero to be in 1991.
No one likes 2D F-Zero. I don't know why they expected the GBA games to keep selling. The smart thing would have been to hold off on Climax, and make a DS game instead, because I would have bought that.
Sure. It was an early GBA game, and had the same kind of tech demo appeal as the original F-Zero. >Wow, it's in 3D! (almost)
I don't know why they expected to sustain that hype for three games. Would three Mario Kart games have sold on GBA? Probably not.
It's because it was heavily marketed with the release of the GBA and billed as this ultra high tech 3D handheld game. It was also one of the only launch titles widely available in the US. Not only that, the GBA was the only handheld at the time worth playing.
F-Zero GX was a mid-life Gamecube title in an already saturated Gamecube library, which the Gamecube itself had immense competition from the PS2.
Anyone who isn't on shrooms will agree that F-Zero GX is 1000 times better than F-Zero Maximum Velocity. It sold well due to timing and marketing.
Thank you; I've glad someone else gets it.
Honestly, most F-Zero "fans" are like Starfox and Paper Mario "fans": they only actually like one game in the entire series and are eternally mad that it never got a sequel that plays the exact same.
Hell, even pointing out the only reason why GX is so hard is because it's the homr companion to a quarter-munching SEGA arcade game makes them froth at the mouth like its blasphemy.
FZero X and FZero GX are both great games. Star Fox, Star Fox 64, and Star Fox assault are all good too. The problem is Nintendo does shit like Star Fox Command, that's nothing like the original Star Fox games, and when it gets terrible reviews and sells poorly they're like "Well I guess people don't like Star Fox." and then never make a new game.
How hard is it to make a fricking railgun shooter where you pilot cool vehicles and have anime style bosses? It's so fricking simple. It's almost as simple as having a 60 FPS racing game where you ride around in through crazy roller coaster maps.
This is one of those Miyamotoisms, where just because he didn't envision Star Fox as only a rail shooter, every game has to try something different, even though the fans have made it pretty clear which games they like, and want more of.
Nintendo should just go make Ace Combat with furries. Big maps you have to fly over, do bombing runs. No rail shooter elements.
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I don't want Ace Combat though. I want an on-rails shooter. I don't even like the all range mode parts of 64. I want a guided experience where I fly down a corridor, and shoot targets as they pop out in front of me.
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>I don't want Ace Combat though. I want an on-rails shooter.
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>Noo! You have to like me genre, which isn't what Starfox was in the first place
I don't think I do. Play a Rogue Squadron game.
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This is why Nintendo wants to turn it into a TV show instead
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Yeah, because they refuse to make a Starfox game that plays like Starfox. It has to be ANYTHING but that, because it just fricking does, okay.
I feel like F-Zero needed multiplayer so it never felt right until F-Zero 99. You need 100 racers to give you that sense of chaos the games imply is going on. Nintendo really only implimented online in the Wii era.
>F-Zero SNES wasa single player game. Super Mario Kart hogged the multiplayer >F-Zero X actually had better multiplayer then Mario Kart 64, so F-Zero mogged it on the N64 >But then F-Zero GX was still stuck with only 4 players multiplayer, which was so so shit feeling after you play the grand prix mode with 30 racers. There was no LAN or anything, Mario Kart Double Dash got the LAN
F-Zero as a franchise would have survived if they leaned into the Multiplayer, but Mario Kart beat them to the punch 2/3 of the time
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I wonder; if the N64DD not bombed and actually got online connectivity like it was suppose to, would they have tried harder to do that with GX?
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>Mario Kart Double Dash got the LAN
It actually did???
BS games were not fully fledged games, but kind of like glorious romhacks. It was released in 1997, and the vast, vast, vast, majority of SFC and even F-Zero fans wouldn't even know about it's existance.
I'm so tired of zoomies and their moronic revisionism. I'm not japanese, all I had was a copy of ZSNES, a very slow internet connection and Vimm's Lair... and I knew about this game. So you're spouting BS... F-Zero BS.
No, you're part of the western internet fandom which is not representitive of the Japanese fanbase at all. The BS was a niche system that barely anyone knew about. Western nerds downloading roms in 2003 are going to be more aware of BS games than actual Japanese. As for the games, most are just glorified romhacks with BS F-Zero included.
The game is some CGI models for new ships, and remixed tracks, rather than a full fledged sequel. The GBA games count more as proper sequels.
Dude, japanese gamers were and probably still are some of the best informed communities out there. Grab any issue of Famitsu (the most basic, entry level mag there is), go through it, and you'll get it. It's fair game that you call me part of a fandom since I called you a zoomie, but y'know. My personal circumstances aside, Satellaview games were known about, especially in Japan. That's how it was back then. I understand it's hard to grasp some of this from the perspective I think you have, but I'm telling you, people who read magazines knew about the Satellaview.
I find it hard to think that Japs didn't know about the Satellaview. Anyone that walked into a store saw the dumb thing and didn't buy it. They knew it was there. We are Murica. We know things.
BS F-Zero Grand Prix and BS F-Zero Grand Prix 2 were not sequels, they were remixes of sorts containing the courses and vehicles from the original game, plus a few new ones. The main gimmick was that you played them online with a narrator providing running commentary.
buying snes ports on gba is what homosexuals did. i could go down to the used record store and buy the same game for 5 dollars instead of buying a port for 30 dollars at k mart
Why does every fricking gen xer spew complete bullshit like this? In 22 years they haven't even fathomed looking up to check if the game was a port or not. Their perception of the world is entirely just their own imagination.
the hitboxes in this game are fricked the shitskin car would have bumped me resulting in the same. They also randomly swerve and try to hit you when you pass
Its a case of unfortunate RNG, you just have to hope the game doesnt fill the track with random non racers during the most narrow segments
It was designed for a system that could only do fake and gay 3D, instead of a system built specifically to do 3D. No one wanted to play a third one of those. Even putting a second one on the GBA was pushing it.
I own GP Legend and I knew about Maximum Velocity at launch, I just didn't care back then.
Going to try to secure a copy of Climax when I visit next month
I haven't? F-zero was one of my first SNES games and after I quit video games when the Dreamcast died, my Gamecube was pretty much a GBA player of cheap loose finds which had more of the game that I loved. With one of the best games on the Gamecube being F-Zero GX and all the GBA ones, it tide me over until I got back into video games for a brief moment.
but I've played all of them
Maximum Velocity is my favourite one
Climax was fun but a little weird
GP Legend was easy but also neat
MV > Climax > GP Legend
I've played all but climax so far. to be frank, the first two are underwhelming. The anime art in falcon densetsu isn't very good. You can tell it was a budget job.
its not only the controller, its the blur, its the low resolution, the shitty textures, the shitty fog, its the shitty low poly cars and dead background, it feels like im playing on a old flight simulator map, its all so bland and flat, mode 7 fzero games are at least pretty
I have heard of them in fact, just never actually took the time to sit down and play them
I own 2 of them and probably would have picked up the 3rd if it was released outside Japan.
Never getting another F-Zero game
Why?
Because Sega mogged Nintendo so hard with F-Zero GX that they've never been able to recover.
>sold worse than MV during it's lifespan
Chigyu post
No offense, but you talk like a gayget and your shits all moronic
no offense but he's right
Nintendo gave F-Zero a massive push, more than they gave most other series:
>they made an entire anime series
>arcade game
>3 GBA games
>home game
And they underpreformed so they never made a new one. That's really it. F-Zero fans are whiny b***hes who can't accept that. You could argue that F-Zero is a poor fit for Nintendo since they are more mario-zelda fans. metroid has this same problem.
>Never getting another F-Zero game
F-Zero 99 just came out, and is arguably the best F-Zero game so far. It's literally what I imgained F-Zero to be in 1991.
>Nintendo gave F-Zero a massive push
...by making the series effectively a third party one since X. Really shows they care.
So? It was a good move, Sega clearly knew how to make an F-Zero game better than Nintendo, they should outsource it more if anything
No one likes 2D F-Zero. I don't know why they expected the GBA games to keep selling. The smart thing would have been to hold off on Climax, and make a DS game instead, because I would have bought that.
Maximum Velocity sold more then F-Zero GX
Sure. It was an early GBA game, and had the same kind of tech demo appeal as the original F-Zero.
>Wow, it's in 3D! (almost)
I don't know why they expected to sustain that hype for three games. Would three Mario Kart games have sold on GBA? Probably not.
It's because it was heavily marketed with the release of the GBA and billed as this ultra high tech 3D handheld game. It was also one of the only launch titles widely available in the US. Not only that, the GBA was the only handheld at the time worth playing.
F-Zero GX was a mid-life Gamecube title in an already saturated Gamecube library, which the Gamecube itself had immense competition from the PS2.
Anyone who isn't on shrooms will agree that F-Zero GX is 1000 times better than F-Zero Maximum Velocity. It sold well due to timing and marketing.
Thank you; I've glad someone else gets it.
Honestly, most F-Zero "fans" are like Starfox and Paper Mario "fans": they only actually like one game in the entire series and are eternally mad that it never got a sequel that plays the exact same.
Hell, even pointing out the only reason why GX is so hard is because it's the homr companion to a quarter-munching SEGA arcade game makes them froth at the mouth like its blasphemy.
FZero X and FZero GX are both great games. Star Fox, Star Fox 64, and Star Fox assault are all good too. The problem is Nintendo does shit like Star Fox Command, that's nothing like the original Star Fox games, and when it gets terrible reviews and sells poorly they're like "Well I guess people don't like Star Fox." and then never make a new game.
How hard is it to make a fricking railgun shooter where you pilot cool vehicles and have anime style bosses? It's so fricking simple. It's almost as simple as having a 60 FPS racing game where you ride around in through crazy roller coaster maps.
This is one of those Miyamotoisms, where just because he didn't envision Star Fox as only a rail shooter, every game has to try something different, even though the fans have made it pretty clear which games they like, and want more of.
Nintendo should just go make Ace Combat with furries. Big maps you have to fly over, do bombing runs. No rail shooter elements.
I don't want Ace Combat though. I want an on-rails shooter. I don't even like the all range mode parts of 64. I want a guided experience where I fly down a corridor, and shoot targets as they pop out in front of me.
>I don't want Ace Combat though. I want an on-rails shooter.
>Noo! You have to like me genre, which isn't what Starfox was in the first place
I don't think I do. Play a Rogue Squadron game.
This is why Nintendo wants to turn it into a TV show instead
Yeah, because they refuse to make a Starfox game that plays like Starfox. It has to be ANYTHING but that, because it just fricking does, okay.
you should play red alarm on vb
I feel like F-Zero needed multiplayer so it never felt right until F-Zero 99. You need 100 racers to give you that sense of chaos the games imply is going on. Nintendo really only implimented online in the Wii era.
This
>F-Zero SNES wasa single player game. Super Mario Kart hogged the multiplayer
>F-Zero X actually had better multiplayer then Mario Kart 64, so F-Zero mogged it on the N64
>But then F-Zero GX was still stuck with only 4 players multiplayer, which was so so shit feeling after you play the grand prix mode with 30 racers. There was no LAN or anything, Mario Kart Double Dash got the LAN
F-Zero as a franchise would have survived if they leaned into the Multiplayer, but Mario Kart beat them to the punch 2/3 of the time
I wonder; if the N64DD not bombed and actually got online connectivity like it was suppose to, would they have tried harder to do that with GX?
>Mario Kart Double Dash got the LAN
It actually did???
Yes.
http://www.nintendo.ca/2002/english/downloads/MKDD_LAN_English.pdf
yup, played it once. Thanks to the "two people in one Kart" mode you can have to 8 people.
>metroid has this same problem.
Metroid has an entire genre on it belt and is at least a Platformer/Shooter game.
F-Zero is a little gay car sim europeans try to enjoy but fail.
people didn't care until AFTER GX became a Smash Bros. Melee classic
I bought the first two when they were new in stores.
I just found this out this week and it blew my mind.
F Zero SNES got a sequel only in Japan called FZero BS
>"sequel"
BS games were not fully fledged games, but kind of like glorious romhacks. It was released in 1997, and the vast, vast, vast, majority of SFC and even F-Zero fans wouldn't even know about it's existance.
I'm so tired of zoomies and their moronic revisionism. I'm not japanese, all I had was a copy of ZSNES, a very slow internet connection and Vimm's Lair... and I knew about this game. So you're spouting BS... F-Zero BS.
No, you're part of the western internet fandom which is not representitive of the Japanese fanbase at all. The BS was a niche system that barely anyone knew about. Western nerds downloading roms in 2003 are going to be more aware of BS games than actual Japanese. As for the games, most are just glorified romhacks with BS F-Zero included.
The game is some CGI models for new ships, and remixed tracks, rather than a full fledged sequel. The GBA games count more as proper sequels.
Dude, japanese gamers were and probably still are some of the best informed communities out there. Grab any issue of Famitsu (the most basic, entry level mag there is), go through it, and you'll get it. It's fair game that you call me part of a fandom since I called you a zoomie, but y'know. My personal circumstances aside, Satellaview games were known about, especially in Japan. That's how it was back then. I understand it's hard to grasp some of this from the perspective I think you have, but I'm telling you, people who read magazines knew about the Satellaview.
>Western nerds downloading roms in 2003 are going to be more aware of BS games than actual Japanese.
moron
I find it hard to think that Japs didn't know about the Satellaview. Anyone that walked into a store saw the dumb thing and didn't buy it. They knew it was there. We are Murica. We know things.
That's like calling the Sega CD a niche system. Don't be moronic.
BS F-Zero Grand Prix and BS F-Zero Grand Prix 2 were not sequels, they were remixes of sorts containing the courses and vehicles from the original game, plus a few new ones. The main gimmick was that you played them online with a narrator providing running commentary.
buying snes ports on gba is what homosexuals did. i could go down to the used record store and buy the same game for 5 dollars instead of buying a port for 30 dollars at k mart
its not a port moron
Why does every fricking gen xer spew complete bullshit like this? In 22 years they haven't even fathomed looking up to check if the game was a port or not. Their perception of the world is entirely just their own imagination.
I spent a whole summer playing MV, but I only managed to unlock the Falcon Mk II.
Do the GBA games have terrible AI and shit colored cars that fill the tracks?
Only the first one, at least on the part about generic filler cars.
Can you seriously stop drinking before playing f-zero?
Every fricking video you post you bounce around like some handicapped moron
>Steer to the right directly into the wall, when drifting to the right would let you go straight
the hitboxes in this game are fricked the shitskin car would have bumped me resulting in the same. They also randomly swerve and try to hit you when you pass
Its a case of unfortunate RNG, you just have to hope the game doesnt fill the track with random non racers during the most narrow segments
Drunk bastard
why do i feel like you either live in new jersey or some flyover state shithole
Because you're moronic without a clue.
pretty good m8 had a good chuckle
unironically made me want to play some pinball games
The pop-in is pretty hideous in Wipeout.
wrong dude, and no
I've played all of them. Bought Maximum Velocity day 1, pirated the other 2 despite them being better, didnt know at the time
Climax should have been on DS and was the reason F-ZERO was shelfed as a franchise for 20 years.
They had ZERO reason to put that shit on Game Boy Advance and there's nothing you can say to change my mind.
Climax was on DS since DS had a gba port. No reason to be a gay at the time to want more Fzero and refuse to play it on your old or new handheld.
It was designed for a system that could only do fake and gay 3D, instead of a system built specifically to do 3D. No one wanted to play a third one of those. Even putting a second one on the GBA was pushing it.
>fake and gay 3D,
Maximum Velocity was a launch title and immensely popular you dunce.
I own GP Legend and I knew about Maximum Velocity at launch, I just didn't care back then.
Going to try to secure a copy of Climax when I visit next month
I haven't? F-zero was one of my first SNES games and after I quit video games when the Dreamcast died, my Gamecube was pretty much a GBA player of cheap loose finds which had more of the game that I loved. With one of the best games on the Gamecube being F-Zero GX and all the GBA ones, it tide me over until I got back into video games for a brief moment.
I played the shit out of Maximum Velocity as a kid. Having a new generation of pilots was pretty cool.
MV > Climax > shit > GP Legend
Yes I have.
I've heard of them, frick you for thinking I didn't
Only dumb zoomers haven't heard of Maximum Velocity, it was a massively hyped launch title.
but I've played all of them
Maximum Velocity is my favourite one
Climax was fun but a little weird
GP Legend was easy but also neat
MV > Climax > GP Legend
They were among the first games I played on the system 20 years ago.
I've played all but climax so far. to be frank, the first two are underwhelming. The anime art in falcon densetsu isn't very good. You can tell it was a budget job.
Racing games will damage your GBA.
These buttons weren't actually meant to be pressed many times.
good old nintendo cutting corners everywhere they can
i played maximum velocity and its the only good fzero game that exists
Why dont you like F Zero X?
its an ugly piece of shit on a piece of shit of a console that handles like one of my turds
How old are you? I love the N64 but I grew up with it, people younger cant seem to stomach the controller
its not only the controller, its the blur, its the low resolution, the shitty textures, the shitty fog, its the shitty low poly cars and dead background, it feels like im playing on a old flight simulator map, its all so bland and flat, mode 7 fzero games are at least pretty
Are you old enough to post on this website? The graphics are fine
>The graphics are fine
no they're not, they look like shit, now let me go play wipeout on the playstation
Super Mario Kart on SNES has better graphics than wobbly wipeout, you cannot be serious