>There's no driving simulator to teach people how to drive
>this million dollar idea hasn't been done yet
Are game developers moronic?
>There's no driving simulator to teach people how to drive. >this million dollar idea hasn't been done yet
>There's no driving simulator to teach people how to drive
>this million dollar idea hasn't been done yet
Are game developers moronic?
You cant learn to drive from a video game unless you're an American, who don't really learn to drive anyway. A game can't properly teach clutch control
nice larp euros can't afford cars tho. no guns, no cars, no balls
I wish people couldn't afford cars here.
It's pretty much
except I thought your streets were at least built for it.
Ours sure a frick weren't.
Nice shooting yesterday ameribro.
Wasn't that denmark?
>shooting
>singular
lol
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fourth-july-weekend-marred-violent-shootings-us-rcna36640
I'll take a shooting over getting chased with knives by a small mob of people
people with big guns and cars are usually compensating for something
>sees a gun
>immediately starts thinking about wieners
Seems like he has a specific fantasy
It's good to be a Finnchad. Pretty easy to get a gun here without the risk of getting shot while buying groceries.
>Pretty easy to get a gun here
takes literally years to even get a pistol and you HAVE to have an active shooting hobby, which you have to prove to the police
Fuel costs more but Americans are the ones crying about gas prices. You have to wonder who really can't afford things.
switzerland still is part of europe even though its not part of the EU
im enjoying my guns. tell me, hows the situation with full auto and suppressors over in muttland? lol.
>you can buy a supressed hunting rifle off the shelf here
Taking an American to the hunting and fishing store in my anti gun country was an experience.
Maybe you could but you would have to spend a few grand on specialized sim equipment.
Software doesnt mean much if you dont have an actual steering wheel and pedals with proper response.
this doesn't account for any of the gforces and roadfeel
Your mom was experiencing some g forces and road feel last night when I rogered her right there on the pavers
don't you have some beans to eat
Yer mums heating em up in the kettle right now lad
While wheels these days are fine (you can buy motors that will literally break your arms if you crash for maximum realism), pedals are still shit because there's no good clutch simulation, either from a software or hardware perspective, probably because driving a race clutch on the road is moronic.
Modern street car controls don't have any response, you have floaty electric power steering, throttle by wire and brakes and clutches boosted to the moon.
It must get tiring thinking about Americans all day
What if VR?
Are you serious? There are more drivers in America than in any western country. America is also unhealthily obsessed with ruining cities with car focused infrastructure.
america is also a very large, open country
a fact euros tend to forget
had an italian bro come visit me in new york. he was under the impression we could visit Yellowstone and be back the same day
maybe he thought you were a superhero who could fly him there in your arms
They'll give any mongoloid a license here. My drivers test consisted of driving around a parking lot for 5 minutes. I didn't even need to parallel park.
Is k1 speed a Florida thing? I've never heard of one outside of here.
>There are more drivers in America than in any western country. America is also unhealthily obsessed with ruining cities with car focused infrastructure
Precisely why it's easier to drive in america than anywhere else, every urban environment is just wide 4 lane roads in a grid pattern and in the country it's just long lonely roads between grocery stores and residential areas. You never learn to be aware of your surroundings or to deal with stupid/careless pedestrians
>You never learn to be aware of your surroundings or to deal with stupid/careless pedestrians
Couldn't be further from the truth. Have to deal with jaywalking Black folk all the time, it's like a hobby to them.
based
t. automatic driver that will never drive manual again
Why does manual get so much hate?
because manual drivers are insufferable and HAVE to tell you how much better manual is
To be fair manual was shit for a long time. also poorgays were tense about the lower fuel efficiency but the difference is now negligible. It's been ten years that there is no reason to go manual anymore.
Because it invalidates you as a man if you don't know how to do it, hence why mutts get so defensive and insecure
ok boomer, manual is a literal relic of the past, were going to have fully autonomous vehicles soon TM that don't require any license whatsoever
I bet you don't use a refrigerator and still use an icebox huh, Grug?
>A game can't properly teach clutch control
clutch control is literally the easiest thing in learing to drive. the hardest thing is to get comfortable enough with practical application of IRL traffic rules to not feel like a deer in the headlights at a more complex intersection and develop muscle memory for manual shifting. you can learn that from a video game just fine.
95% of new cars in Europe are automatic.
Most European countries have instated rules for there no longer being separate licenses for manual and automatic, so pretty much everyone only learns automatic these days.
whats the point in lying in such obvious way?
Americans are bad at driving but not as bad as you, Xi Jinping.
If everybody drove like me there would be less than 10 accidents per year.
You can't learn the actual driving part from a sim, but you can learn traffic rules which is at least half the challenge.
>people build home wienerpits to fly airplanes in their garages
>microsoft flight simulator can be used to learn radio navigation if you play it with an instructor and you get credits for it
>thrust levers, collective and cyclic sticks built to official specs for enthusiasts
Sure, a clutch pedal and a shift stick is just toomuch. No way this technology could be mastered.
Clutch and brakes are wearing parts that react differently in literally every car you sit in.
Drive assists are not built to any standard.
Your physical control over the vehicle changes with the state of the road, how loaded you are and how worn and set up are those aforementioned parts.
And most importantly, you are surrounded by thousands of fricking morons inside their own 6000lb metal bricks, who let Jesus take the wheel every other minute and you need to make split second decisions to correct their own frickups regularly.
Half of driving is feeling what the car is doing through your own ass and other half is gauging which dumb motherfricker is going to do something moronic this time.
You have none of this shit in an airplane and I would love to see a simulator pull it off believably.
>Clutch and brakes are wearing parts that react differently in literally every car you sit in.
then it doesn't make a fricking difference if you practice on a simulation, since whatever car you practice in is gonna be different anyway.
>Your physical control over the vehicle changes with the state of the road, how loaded you are and how worn and set up are those aforementioned parts.
So what? same non-issue as above
unless you are advocating that everyone has to formally learn to drive ever single different car in the exact state of wear that they are in at that moment, then it makes no difference if your setup is slightly different (and unless you are driving a car that shouldn't even be on the road it is a very slight)
Why would anyone in 2022 drive stick if they're not a hobbyist? Automatic just werks and is way more comfy.
is cheaper to repair manual transmission than automatic
it's also much easier to break a manual transmission than automatic transmission
that's a good point actually.
it blows my mind that yuropoors actually make it a point of pride that they put up with an inferior driving experience (for everybody that isn't an enthusiast, that is). they're typically all bugmen that live in cities, too, where dealing with a manual transmission is even more of a pain in the ass
Obsessed
>dude you need to use only metric its just easier you fricking idiot
>dude why dont you use manual? its so much harder and pointless, you fricking idiot
what is with you guys, seriously
>thinks metric is complicated
you're just proving him right
Reading comprehension. Do you have it?
kek now that you mention it I have heard these arguments said within 5 minutes of each other by a (surprise surprise) snobbish French guy that was at a restaurant arguing with what I assume was his friends or family that he was visiting in New York
A large portion of people in the rural areas drive sticks
But of course you're just an ignorant euro who thinks he knows everything and will never admit your dumbass is wrong
Pretty sure the point is you can't get a license unless you know how to clutch.
There is.
> the test is a luck based mission because it does shit like asking you to do turns on such short notice that they can't be done legally
> try driving at the same pace as traffic
> get instantly decked for speeding
> autistic rules for roundabouts
> craps out on most computers because vodkaware devs can't into video memory allocation and refuse to fix it
the obstacle course was fun tho
>> the test is a luck based mission because it does shit like asking you to do turns on such short notice that they can't be done legally
> try driving at the same pace as traffic
> get instantly decked for speeding
> autistic rules for roundabouts
This is exactly how real life driving tests work too
Only if you live somewhere where the test is a scam, if my examiner had told me to make a u-turn on the closest intersection (20 meters away) across several lanes where changing lanes was illegal I would have assumed it was a trick and explained why I can't, the game just fails you if you don't do it. Also the thing about roundabouts is that it has regional rules mixed up or misinterpreted, it's something you see a lot of complaints for in their forum.
its slavshit game and its 100% accurate to the real test.
thats exactly how it works irl lmao
you americans have it way too fricking easy (which makes sense because cars are basically required to live in the us so having a difficult driving test would be unfair)
>thats exactly how it works irl lmao
in china maybe
>boot up the game
>makes my wheel go 100% left at maximum force because ruskie morons can't fricking code
Amazing stuff.
i learned how to drive manual / clutch control with beamng drive
also , i cracked and released it
>City Car Driving.jpg
is there a way to make it work with Index?
Is there a way to get the in game wheel to map 1:1 with my Logitech wheel?
I have to turn super sharp to get the in game wheel to do a regular turn, its not at all accurate.
i tried this one time because i wanted to learn, unnistalled it immediatly because too much controls and shitty tutorial
Driving simulators exist like sand on the beach. They just don't sell them on Steam because they make more money selling them to corporate morons who don't know how anything works to make their money on a product that costs $80.000
Decimal points aren't used like that in any country that has dollars as a currency.
What car is that? looks comfy and has a high suspension
Chevy Tahoe/Suburban
Driving games cant even handle Hand over hand steering , Even fricking forza has the go kart animation & its a dedicated racing sim
holy shit are you moronic
Look at you, Another condescending frickwad with nothing better to say, i know you're kind in the office. Frick off go ride the bus to your cage
>Hand over hand steering
Heh, from the name I guessed what it would be, then looked at a Youtube. I was actively taught not to do this when I was learning to drive.
It's a shit taught habit to have if you're avoiding hand over hand steering because it means far more input for less turning radius.
>I was actively taught not to do this when I was learning to drive
Your instructor may have had a double digit IQ.
I was told not to do this because if your airbag comes out while your hand is over the steering wheel your hand will hit you in the head with enough force to kill you
correct, i still hand over sometimes but i'm trying not to
>facepalm
you are literally not supposed to do hand over hand steering
Were you doing a gumtape deathmatch?
lmao he doesn't ride the wheel with his knuckles
any one handed driving chads here?
Yes, and mainly with my non-dominant hand for some reason
Same but the reason is my hands got tired from death gripping the wheel so I let my dominant hand rest
Kek, same.
dom hand on wheel, non-dom hanging outside window
>tfw left-handed in burgerland
>can't do the window shit but right hand holds a breakfast burrito
left hand on wheel, right hand on the stick
right hand on my gf's stick if she's riding next to me
I used to but the beltline on my new car is so high that it's uncomfortable to rest my arm on it.
Right here and just saying that, if you have to use both hands to turn the wheel while doing maneuvers, you're a fake one handed chad.
I only bring out the second hand in DIRE situations. In precision turns, mountain roads, unstable roads.
one on the steering wheel other plucking nose hairs or resting on shift
I drive with a couple fingers or my knees half the time
>forza
>racing sim
Racing cars have more sensitive steering and don't require it you numpty
>forza
>dedicated racing sim
>hand over hand
>female
yep. checks out.
if you're doing hand over hand on a race track, your car is not properly tuned and you do not know how to fricking drive
You can't simulate g-forces
Back when I took driver's ed the sim would task you with passing and still ding you for going into the opposite lane, and following too close to a vehicle.
I'm 28 and never learnd how to drive (don't have time). It looks hard, but it must be very easy because every halfwit know how to.
It just takes getting used to. I got my license at 25; used to give me anxiety. Then got a job driving a pickup truck, daily, and driving on the deadliest highway in America. Now I have to remind myself to give a frick. Never got a ticket or been pulled over
Same, I'm about to turn 28 this week. I practice a bit and failed my drivers test once and never re-did it lil. Going to have to get it though as it's a necessity here. My id expires next year so I'm using that as a deadline of learning to drive.
Few times I've driven a car gave me extreme anxiety and I was terrible at it, I'm okay with using the bus or trains or uber/taxis for the rest of my life, kinda sad because seems like every moron can drive and I can't, but still, knowing how much is involved with maintaining a car doesn't make me want to drive either
I learned how to drive but I have to drive with a full licensed adult because I never got my full license because lessons were expensive and I was too moronic to do the parallel parking part (I tried and failed once then ran out of money/confidence)
From what I can tell its less intelligence and more about confidence and not overthinking, those halfwits are good at just jumping into things and don't fear anything (its also why they get into crippling debt and failed marriages, addiction etc.) but it comes in handy when driving because they don't think about the dangers or failure and they learn faster and more smoothly
29 here and moronic anxiety and cant cope with failure stops me. I feel shit that I don't drive but I literally don't go anywhere anyway and work is a 5 minute walk.
Plus I really cba paying all the third party insurance company's and the government to have it sitting outside.
>There's no driving simulator to teach people how to drive
We had electro-mechanical driving simulators 40 years ago behind Iron Curtain.
I will eat my shoes if you say you didn't have a fully computerized version of this back then.
if you fail the test the disk revs up and decapitates you.
kek
the disc was the "map"
some sort of lens setup was projecting it on the wall as a landscape
it was swappable for different types of intersections and stuff
these things were mainly just for controls familiarization though
you did a thing and saw what happens when you do it
good to learn to tell the clutch, brake and gas pedals apart and shift stick positions I guess
better than hogging the training lot from people who can already do it
wtf is that? You make a mistake and that saw cuts your head off?
>Make a mistake in the program that would lead to a crash
>Disc comes flying down to slice into you
It's like you're really there!
THE PENITENT MAN KNEELS BEFORE GOD
Are there small houses around the edge of that disc and that shit turns with the wheel and gets projected onto the screen in the back somehow? Sorry i am a bit drunk.
Oh i found it. Not exactly what i was thinkin but still pretty cool stuff https://youtu.be/O0Cd6ubHbGo
It doesn't translate well to actual driving.
Because driving is piss easy as it is. Literally doesn't need a simulator. It does blow my mind how Americans think manual is some difficult skill to master though.
>Because driving is piss easy as it is
Exactly, look at how fricking brain dead your average person is, and they can drive without any real issues. Even clutch control is literally 5 minutes of a lesson then just getting the feel of it.
>they can drive without any real issues
in the US there are 600,000,000 people on the road at all times of the day. maybe 500,000,000 at nighttime. driving here is very nerve wracking especially since everyone under the age 35 thinks they're a race car driver.
>very nerve wracking
Mate, your roads are all straight lines.
The highways are. Everywhere else is not.
Literally picked a random spot in and zoomed in.
Jesus, grow some fricking balls.
God, America is so fricking dull to drive around.
Spoken like some 3rd world troglodyte who has never stepped foot outside of their decrepit hometown, let alone their country.
Say what you will about the U.S. and their culture, it's a massive country with thousands of miles of beautiful contryside. Mountains, hills, rolling plains covered in wildflowers, winding bridges so lengthy you lose sight of land as you traverse them, vast deserts carved up by arroyos and grand plateaus with beautiful clear skies, five beautiful coastlines, I could go on all day.
Seethe harder europoor/3rd world shitter
> going to the sun
more like going to HELL frick that road
i have some pretty large balls, but they're not going to do me any good when an F-150 smashes into my Toyota at 50 mph in a 20 mph zone. oh well i guess this is just the price of freedom
Skill issue
i mean there are times when you literally can't see what is on the road until you've completed your turn. to me this is a rather glaring design flaw.
>streets horizontal
>avenues vertical
>except when they're not (Hussey)
>or when they're "roads"
Why?
Even then, people are going 90 down most of the highways. Pretty scary as a new driver.
and both sides are lined with parked cars so you can't see anything while you're turning, and you have to pull over to the side every time someone is coming the other way because the road is literally not wide enough to fit two cars at the same time
not that anon but straight line roads means everyone is willing to speed like 10-15 over the speed limit as long as its a road where cops aren't common. the highway is worse since people regularly go like 90 in a 60 and that's with a decent amount of cars on the road.
so?
so cagies are a subhuman race and need to be banned from marrying or owning property.
There is no morality in speed limits, they are just bureaucracy based on outdated paper standards
Except you are moving something above a ton at high-speed.
Yeah and you still are when you brake check 30 cars into the ditch to prove how much you love the taste of boot. Speed doesn't fricking matter on a straight highway, speed differential does.
i don't trust the average american to drive at anything over 80. if licenses weren't handed out like candy I'd agree with you.
Read again and stop being dumb. It doesn't matter as long as they're all going the same speed in the same direction, it's when one moron is going 60 and another is doing 90 their lack of awareness, judgment, reactions, and car control (and for everyone for the next 10 miles behind them because of the resulting wave of congestion) matters.
have you not seen how moronicly people merge from on-ramps?
Once again not an issue if they would just keep up with traffic instead of REEE YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST
>if they would
but they cant
Looking at those speeds, I don't blame them.
euro, you've never seen garden state parkway or route 1
grow penis or take the bus and stop ruining everything with your paranoid schizophrenia
Nice left lane hogging, chink b***h. Keep doing it too i have quick hands on my brights, flick flick
>i have quick hands on my brights, flick flick
Cool story nerd
>in the US there are 600,000,000 people on the road
how many mexicans are there?
Try driving in the UK and then come back to me.
>Try driving in the UK and then come back to me.
How bad is driving in the UK
>How bad is driving in the UK
Europe is basically all wavy roads and non-car centric cities
Yeah, the countryside and mountains are better for driving, but that goes without saying.
Both driving instructors and examiners are some of the most greedy and corrupt pieces of shit I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with and I hope I never have to deal with their bullshit ever again.
Like driving in the USA but with more funny swear words being thrown about like "tosspot", "fanny" and "wanker".
Lanes are half the size
Manuals only
Lots of roads build before cars existed
Its really fricking fun in the countryside but shit in the city.
Driving in America is really easy compared to europe
Bad.
Everyone is a c**t on the road, if you're a learner it's like having a target on your back saying 'frick me'.
People are dicks to learners. If I see an L plate I give them plenty of space. We were all there once and I know how stressful it can be to have someone on your ass while you're learning.
They're trying to set as high a bar as possible because you're only going to get more careless the longer you have your licence.
I just passed recently but one of my lessons before hand some c**t didn't let me off the slip road. I sped up to match the traffic speed and her purposefully sped up so I couldn't get on.
Sometimes makes me wish I could kill certain drivers.
People are generally buttholes behind the wheel. Something about not seeing a person's face makes it easy to forget there's a human behind the wheel of the other car.
>They're trying to set as high a bar as possible
no they're not
they're putting pressure on you and purposefully feeding you useless information so you will frick up more, in turn needing to do more driving practice (pay them) or repeat the driving test (also paying them and the inspection)
How bad is driving in london?
I wouldn't know because I don't live in that shithole and never plan to but I imagine it's fricking terrible.
Didn't they ban driving in London?
London means the whole 10M people city. Even in the core historical centre traffic is restricted on side roads (to prevent peasants driving there) but not outright banned.
American in London here. It was absolutely terrifying learning to drive on the other side of the road. Back in 2010, my first year here, I had six or seven minor accidents in one year. Two of them were Paki lorry drivers' faults.
Do you mean the cubevans? I used to work with a UK trucking firm and never met a pajeet who drove an articulated vehicle. Its like 50% horrible fat old English giga racists and 50% dead-eyed Eastern Europeans
>50% dead-eyed Eastern Europeans
Why are there so many EE in London?
>East euro countries let into EU
>Want to get far away from russia
>Want to make some decent cash
>move to london to make fat bucks and stay clear of commies
Simple really
there are a lot in the UK generally. Most come over for work but we get a lot of bydlos too
>Driving in London
Never really have to but whenever I've been forced its comfy but busy
Have to be focused because of the amount of cars and small lanes but at night time the feeling you get is fricking awesome
I met my wife in central and used to drive to and from her place during lockdown and it was fricking blissful without all the traffic
I cant explain the comfy levels of driving under the London lights in dead quiet whilst it rains and I have an at the time new gf in my passenger seat
Will remember that shit until I die
there are cameras fricking everywhere so they can fine you for the tiniest shit
I'd pay to play this with realistic graphics and stellar car physics in a rusty old manual drive shaft Dacia, drifting, doing boring cab jobs as fast as possible, following traffic like an NPC, doing risky maneuvers, having fun with a high grade premium physical shifter, and running over the occasional pedestrian (preferably with a mix of GTA4&5 physics for ragdolls).
>driving here is very nerve wracking especially since everyone under the age 35 thinks they're a race car driver.
Spotted the shit driver unaware of traffic flow, holding everyone up because he is technically doing the speed limit
Be serious for a second, How many speeding tickets you got?
I dont follow the speed limit, I match the speed of all the cars around me. Have never even thought about a speed limit in my life. Zero tickets, zero accidents.
FRICK the little wienery rat drivers that rapidly ping pong between lanes just to sneak ahead a few cars. The only reason you get away with that moronic "aggressive driving :^)" bullshit is because every other car on the road is trying to drive as predictably as possible so you don't cause YET ANOTHER crash. The second two of you buttholes meet its a guaranteed crash, I've already witnessed two violent crashes in my decade of driving. Imagine risking your life to shave off a few minutes, lmao. Should have left earlier if you're in a hurry.
I pump my breaks at assriding triple Black folk. I could use a new car anyway.
>keep a 2 car length distance between me and the car in front of me
>aggressive drivers will take the opportunity to squeeze between us if it means they can get ahead by one car every single time
One of these days I'm going to snap and just ram them.
Sorry anon but I always follow the speed limit. Don't like it then pass, I'll slow down enough for you
Bro? Just don't live in any major city?
U should see the morons they come to k1 speed can barely control a 20 -30 mph go kart. Get back on the road morons with no reflexes or skills tail gate inches from bumper in monster suvs.
No one thinks it’s difficult. You can learn in an afternoon. But why would you want to?
it will all be good soon
build your own roads and you can drive whatever you want on em.
And that's a good thing.
practically the entire US economy and infrastructure is built on car ownership, never gonna happen
then US economy will collapse with it.
I mean, you're not far off with that one. Heh, far off.
it's built around USING cars. not owning cars. You're still going to be stuck in rush hour traffic, but you wont own your car. How else are car corporations going to charge you every month? Too many independent repair shops and people DIYing their repairs, it all cuts into the profit margins.
You say that like most people even own their cars. A lot just lease them.
bike lanes are about to get really large
Man you gotta love the slippery slope gays. I wonder if people acted like that when cars first came out and started replacing horses.
you don't need to wonder, you can just read on it
I didn't know they actively outlawed horses.
Slippery slope has never been a fallacy and appealing to it should be classified as a logical fallacy. Every political movement in both history and present always wants way more than they claim they want and will continue demanding more even after getting all of their initial demands met.
Children used to go to drag shows at gay bars all the time, don't be mental
Slippery slope is a fallacy. Thing is, it's only a fallacy when no evidence is given as an example and pointing out a fallacy like it inherently invalidates someone's argument and proves them wrong is also a fallacy.
>Man you gotta love the slippery slope gays
name literally one thing that 'slippery slope' gays in the 00s predicted that didn't come true (besides climate change putting all our coastal cities underwater)
>banning combustion engine cars in 3 years
big if true
>no more sales of combustion engine cars
the mega car manufacturer israelites will lobby to make this never pass even if it means spending record billions.
the israelite wants you to buy high margin electric shitboxes that have to be dealer repaired because of high voltage electrical
rising petrol price and the possibility of microtransactions for cars will ensure it happens
>fuel economy unlock
>speed increase unlock
>battery capacity unlock
>in-car entertainment unlock
>in-car wifi speed increase
etc
the only reason we don't have this now is because this is a frog in a pot they're boiling slowly
self-driving makes this problem even worse
>pay for subscription to make routing quicker
>cities/councils make deals with self-driving devs to make 'premium' lanes that self-driving cars won't use unless you pay extra
>routing preferentially uses toll roads and toll gates
and at the very worst
>your car can be remotely locked
>viruses and malware will be specifically targeted towards cars
>car can get ransomwared, in the middle of driving even
>or locked down by authorities
it's not worth it
most modern cars have software how many times has your car been hacked? dumb argument
>hasn't pirated a car
https://www.kaspersky.com/resource-center/threats/car-hacks-and-how-to-protect-yourself
Most modern cars have frick all against any malicious hacker. The article mentioned 1.4 million vehicles that needed to be recalled, just because 2 skilled professionals found a vulnerability. Do you think most modern car manufacturers have the same level of expertise that industry leaders in antivirus/malware have? Do you think dealers/car owners are going to update their car as often as their computers or phones?
The more cars go fully electric/have more electrical components, you'll see more and more attacks. Just silly stuff like connecting your phone to your car via bluetooth probably represents a massive risk you WILL see being exploited in the future.
>kapersky a company that makes money off of anti virus software is telling you you need antivirus software
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
clutch is impossible to simulate, if you have a car with autotragic transmission you cant drive.
what legitimate benefits are there to manual other than gearhead masturbation?
Automatics used to be fricking shit and the reputation stuck.
They are fine now for going from A to B.
I own and drive a manual, so I'm used to it, but roping people into it would be like beating the frick out of your son over nothing, because your dad did that too.
Its fun on good roads
Moved from bong to states
Had a toyota eco-box in the uk and I felt like I was a race car driver going 30 mph around country lanes. Can't imagine the thrill of having a genuinly good car.
In the states their is 0 reason to own a nice car because the roads are all giant lanes, 90 degree stop sign turns and straight lines. Also there will randomly be traffic lights in the middle of highways. Driving in the states sucks dick.
The mountains. epic roads in the foot hills and shit
> the roads are too straight
alright, this better?
Oh man I recognize those hills
I honestly fricking hate driving in SF.
The autos that will actually shift fast and when you want are still heavy as shit but most cars now are so fricking heavy either way it isn't that noticeable.
manual gearbox is lighter and cheaper.
replacing an automatic gearbox is EXPENSIVE, and they do wear out. (depending on the car and how you drive)
>Play walking simulator for 35 hours
>Completely forget how to walk
There's a reason why, anon
i got my license and i practically own the old family shitbox, but dad won't allow me to drive because """i need more experience""". by that he means holding the car's keycard hostage until he deems that once a month/every 2 months i'm worthy to drive from point A to point B listening to contradicting commands that result in traffic frickups i have to correct while he talks my ear off for not listening to him.
and whenever i have to reach point B, he acts like an angry moron no matter what i try to do, puts his hands on the steering wheel, rubs the tires/hubcaps/bumper/side skirts and calls my parking shit for not following his inane parking instructions. the worst part about it is that i managed to swipe the keycard a month ago to go to a pawn shop and found out i completely forgot how to parallel park backwards. i fricking hate lack of practice.
*rubs the tires/hubcaps/bmper/sideskirts across the sidewalk
(of course, in parking lots it's just kneading the clutch and acceleration with my feet and occasionally blocking another driver's way while dad spins the steering wheel like a sailor)
get your own place and car then zoomie or grow a pair and tell your old man to frick off
>pay $1500 a month for your own place while also paying $700 a month for the car that you need to get anywhere on top of $100 for internet so your boss can call you in on your off-day
>$700 a month
Just buy something 2nd hand that'll get you a-to-b. It's your first car, just get something old and run it into the ground.
>just get something that's guaranteed to break down at some point
>most likely when you least expect it to on the highway
>what the frick is a refillable Metro Card? why should we spend taxes on a subway system when we could use them to build fighter jets that no one wants to buy?
Jesus, have you ever lived?
yes and i don't intend to risk my life just so i can see my boss's disappointed expression 25 minutes earlier than i usually do.
Risk avoidance is a low-test indicator
do you have any more facts you read from magazine catalogs?
Also whats wrong with having low test?
If you want to live a more satisfying life, there are non-invasive treatments for your hormonal aberration.
You will sleep, work, and feel a lot better, as well as you'll be more motivated to take the sort of measured risks that lead to personal success.
taking preventable risks is a low IQ indicator.
Assuming you get routine maintenance done on your car, nothing with break down in such a catastrophic way that it prevents driving the car, at least until you're able to make an appointment to get it fixed. And yes, this even includes a flat tire, which take all of 15minutes to change, and that's if you're a woman/moron.
>get your own place
financial suicide even when the economy isn't as destroyed as it is right now
i'm 22 and work at fricking whole foods
I was working at a grocery store until I was 28 and lied on a resume to get interviewed for a tech startup. Now I'm a meme project manager telling programmers what to do and making 90k WFH. You're gonna make it.
that's genuinely impressive
whip dem monkeys good
You passed, just pay for the petrol and go. What's he gonna do, run after you?
seems like your dad has trust issues with you bucko
>by that he means holding the car's keycard hostage until he deems that once a month/every 2 months i'm worthy to drive from point A to point B listening to contradicting commands that result in traffic frickups
i wasn't expecting to relive my first few outings learning how to drive.
bonus points for if your parents simply stopped trying with you and you had to hire some frickwit with a car to practice your driving in
>parents simply stopped trying with you
You used to get panic attacks behind the wheel or something?
not exactly, they'd take me out to drive and just let me behind the wheel instead of actually teaching me, so when i'd screw up they'd say "okay well that's enough of that for today" and we'd go home.
i had little to no idea what i was doing wrong aside from some very vague things like "y'know the speed limit is 'x', right?" hell the drivers i nearly hit were better teachers than my parents.
this won't be a problem once you're an adult and move out you underage gay
>went thru driving school flawlessly, spent most of the obligatory driving sessions just chatting with the instructor even while driving thru the hardest roads in town
>almost ran over a mom + crib during the final test, laughed it off with the instructor and the inspector miraculously fell for it
I still have nightmares about that, I genuinely had not seen them and I was a few meters away from splattering them
what the frick was that dumb b***h doing in the middle of the road with a fricking crib man? Should have splattered her over the road carmaggedon style to teach her a lesson
>got new, significantly bigger and heavier vehicle
>not used to how slowly it brakes
>rolling up to military base gate
>fiddling with my wallet trying to get my ID card out
>card is stuck inside wallet and won't come out
>look away from road
>almost run over the guard and speed onto base
Crazy how we have high end simulators for planes when barely anyone is going to pilot one in his life
For trucks too
but not for cars
Because piloting a plane is kind of easy
Is it? I always figured it isn't as fricking hard as some make it out to be.
You literally just travel in a straight (curved) line to your destination uninterrupted with no obstacles in your path. Autopilot has existed for a while, meanwhile cars are barely starting to selfdrive.
The technology behind flying is way more complex than cars, though, I'll give it that. Troubleshooting, landing, weather, and air traffic are more complex than cars
Most of the difficulty in flying is learning how to use all the systems, communicate with ATC, and stay on course in zero visibility situations. Flying on a clear day is piss easy, any moron can take off and land.
>Flying on a clear day is piss easy, any moron can take off and land.
Taking off, sure. Landing is a very situational skill that can very easily go wrong if the pilot doesn't understand the plane's abilities, proper glide angle, proper balance between speed and pitch, etc.
With guidance, I think anyone could land, but if there was ever a circumstance where someone had to make an emergency landing on their own, it gets a lot more tricky.
Doesn't look easy to me
it's like Blender UI
looks terrifying, but you will never use any of it
also you learn to drive in a plane that has barely more controls and dials than a car
>never use any of it
even in microsoft flight simulator on the most assisted settings you're using at least half of the upper dashboard part
if you want to program your whole flight manually you're typing a bunch of shit into the flight computer (that thing with the buttons and keyboard to the left of the girl's knee, it's absolutely not intuitive and doesn't provide a lot of feedback)
autopilot makes the actual flying of the plane much easier, but if you frick up and enter the wrong altitude or heading or whatever you're somewhere between getting your license revoked and a catastrophic mid-air collision
even just the startup procedure is a b***h to learn and completely different across most planes, and if you mess it up you can cause major damage
about a third of those overhead switches are dedicated to that, but they also control lights and other stuff
flying, especially in a jetliner, is definitely not just point and go, even with modern autopilots there's a ton of shit to keep track of and if you piss off the ATC you're absolutely fricked
No, we are in the age of "open wienerpit" design. Most procedures are automated these days and we do not have instrument clusters like that everywhere anymore.
>most procedures are automated
All procedures have manual override.
>woman pilot
I'd rather be on flight 93
There's a reason it's called the wienerpit and not the pussypit
all right, who the frick let the stewardess into the wienerpit again?
The pilot has to do something on those long flights
Unironically there are terrorists that train using microsoft flight sim, it's more complicated than it looks. The hard part is landing but taking off is unironically not so bad.
I guess people would rather race cars in something like Gran Turismo than following laws and protocols on roads which most people already do daily.
Because driving a car is incredibly easy. Speed limits mean even a granny can't frick up any turn in the world in the shittiest car in the world.
Racing, on the other hand, is much more difficult.
>chink thinks driving is easy
>wants to be a race car driver
What a paradox I’ve never seen an Asian person drive more than 20 under the speed limit.
Because jet liners are substantially more complicated, expensive, and dangerous than a car or a cessna. They don't have sims for a recreational pilots license.
When you put it that way.... That is kind of weird
You need a lot of hardware to make a credible driving simulator. There's no financial incentive to building and maintaining such a machine, because, at least in burgerland, you only need to demonstrate very basic understanding of how to operate a vehicle to get a license.
There is no incentive for a driver to use a sim to improve their driving, because they already believe they're "good enough" and there's no obvious reward for improving. We won't raise the requirements to get that license because there's more money to be made by filling the road with incompetent drivers than by allowing fewer, more capable drivers.
i have played all the games and i can definitely tell you that not one of them actually feels like driving
You can learn to drive using Euro Truck Simulator 2. But you need to buy a wheel and pedals and stick shift.
>use racing sims to learn how to drive
>instructor gets pissy when I do a sick slide to skip the parallel parking test
>whines whenever I weave through traffic on the freeway to warm up my tires
>fails me for hitting redline while waiting at every traffic light
>get to traffic lights
>see red light
>apply brakes and fire up the accelerator until it turns yellow
>shift into R for Racing
Driving schools have been using simulators since the 70s...
>driving exam
>passing through familiar street where I used to take lessons on parking, turning around, etc.
>ask examiner "What am I going to do here?"
>examiner barks "If I don't tell you anything then you just drive straight!"
>later I'm reaching a roundabout, I need to know where I'm exiting so I know what lane to take and when to turn the blinkers on
>examiner stays quiet
>I stop before entering
>examiner doesn't say shit so I go in
>fricking fed up with this shit, stop the car in the middle of the roundabout and yell at the examiner "Where the hell am I going then?"
>"Oh... I'm s-sorry, take the first exit out."
>fast forward to end
>pass
What an absolute examiner
Unironically there will never be a video game capable of truly replicating what driving feels like for the same reason VR shooters and that bullshit MGS tries to push will never be able to accurately replicate shooting a gun and war conditions.
You aren't personally invested, there's no anxiety or stress that comes with doing these things in the real world does. You can ram a car into a wall and be upset your in-game currency suffers having to repair it. You do that shit with a car in real life and you face an entirely different set of circumstances you never considered playing vidya.
The anti driving threads feds and israelite organizations are posting have to be my new favorite
You will all burn in hell for betraying your fellow man
>You will all burn in hell for betraying the yellow man
I don’t think so Chang
bolstering public transport would put a new, immense pressure on the Fed. it would demand a high level of administration and deep investments.
This game taught me more about cars than my dad did.
My Summer Car and Automation are great teaching tools
you now remember your left leg shaking uncontrollably on the clutch pedal
I know a guy that teaches at a truck driving school and got to try out their simulator. You sit in a cab and it looked like pic related but bigger. You have to double clutch shift gears and shit. There's even different levels with the extreme ones being twisty roads at night while raining and deer jumping out in front of you and shit. It was pretty fun hauling ass in a big rig doing 70 on a winding road and looking out your right window seeing that your trailer jack-knifed and is right beside you wiping out trees along the road.
I thought industrial level simulators didn't simulate destruction, but just logged it.
Have you tried just driving a fricking car? Why are 90's babies so goddamn moronic?
>boomers are proud of having a phallic dildo in their cars
lmao
is there a reasont o have manual when you aren't a racecar driver?
you have to if you want to get a license in europe
It can't be that hard I assume
it's not, but it still takes some practice
It's fun. If you don't think it's fun then get an automatic, simple as.
Modern racecars aren't even manual.
I focus better when I'm driving a stick and get easily distracted in automatic
Manual is cheaper and consumes less fuel
It's not and it doesn't. At least in my country.
Repairing a manual transmission is cheaper/easier than an automatic in most cases.
Some people like working the stick, makes driving more engaging.
But other than that, no.
is it true that in korea you just drive around a track once and you get your driver's license? here it's at least 12 hours of driving in real world environments (more realistically 20h+) and it costs up to 3000 bucks
>3000 bucks
that's because many S Koreans don't even use their car/don't own one because they actually have good public transportation and their cities and designed around walking. This is pretty much because they live in such a small country that they need to minimize things as much as possible, like Japan.
oh yeah, my dad also told me that its a little known cultural thing that S Koreans do not build much stuff in the countryside, especially the mountains which is where like the souls of the dead reside or some shit? Anyway, you can see if you look on maps that they don't have much out in the countryside at all and people barely live out there except like monks and shit.
When I was younger my math teacher asked the class if anyone knows how to derive and I said "i don't even have a car or a license" and she kicked me out of the room
Why?
every country has its local shitware driving lesson "sim", i've even seen some driving schools that were using it for trainings
it's fine to use that kind of software for someone who's barely starting out and whatnot, but nothing will ever compare to real world experience. even if you have to pay someone else to give it to you
I can but never have to drive.
>im gonna work for VIDEOGAMES as an IDEAS GUY!
I feel that is probably most people in the industry though, with that one really good programmer doing all the real work
>Haven't been in a car as a passenger in 20 years
>Consider myself a safe driver
>Travel to Philly for a friend's bachelor party weekend
>One guy (38) offers to DD while we travel around to breweries in the city
>110 MPH the whole way from the rental cabin into the city
>Took an on ramp curve so hard I thought the truck was going to flip
>Missed a two lane to one merge and almost wrecked a car next to us
>I'm white knuckled, fearing for my life
>Immediately drinking at the first brewery despite being DD
>Wrong turn on the way to the next brewery, does an illegal U-turn on the highway while cracking a beer and hitting his weed pen
>Finally make it to the second brewery, see him take an acid tab and eat mushrooms
>Another guy and myself nope the frick out and get an $80 uber back to the cabin
>DD shows up a few hours later, fricked up but he made it
>Complains that we don't like his driving
Some people really do drive like it's a video game and it's terrifying.
No kidding, my best pal drives me around sometimes and he likes to listen to the DOOM 2016 OST sometimes and drive like a madman, my last memory was going to the theater with him and to the main theme of the game he drifted around a curve enough to make me and the lads+lass in the car slide to the side
no shit. i get to 70 then flip on cruise control and just chill in one lane
>people are still learning to drive
whats the point when Teslas already drive themselves?
I'd rather not star in a Chinese liveleak video
>"no thanks bro my horse is much better than one of those new automobile dohickeys"
Teslas with FSD and autopilot are already safer then humans
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/04/actual-safety-statistics-around-tesla-full-self-driving.html
Go away, Ranjesh
Safer than the average driver. That's not a high bar and I'm already above it.
>people still deny Teslas can drive themselves
>meanwhile i just turn on FSD beta everyday to and from work and my Tesla drives me around 95% of the time
no thanks, if i'm going to die in an accident i'd rather it be because i was a moron, not because my car thought a traffic cone was a yellow light
I learned from test drive and ridge racer. You don't need a sim,.
>love taking rides through the countryside
>love the freedom I feel when driving
>gas too expensive to waste it doing that
Motorcycles. 100+ miles to the gallon and you can get a bike for $2k.
you sure can, and you get all these benefits at the low low cost of multiplying your mortality odds in an accident by fricking 29.
I also like to live my life based on extremely simplified news statistics because I have a huge vegana.
My brother touched the shoulder ever so slightly on his bike and went down hard enough to crack the helmet wide open and got premament brain damage from it. A car woulda left a cloud of dust and kept going. Only a fricking idiot with no common sense thinks bikes are anywhere near as safe as cars.
And then everyone clapped
how many car accidents have you caused in your life? if the answer is more than 0, then yeah dont take the risk lmao
>caused
zero, i've avoided 7, of which 2 would've involved fatalities if i wasn't a good driver. i've been rear-ended once by a guy whose brakes audibly shattered while he was approaching a light, if i had been on a motorcycle he would've run me over at ~20mph and proceeded into the busy intersection, either with me trapped infront of/under the car or not, and then gotten into further collisions, so it's a good thing i was driving a car.
the majority of accident-based fatalities are the victims being hit by others, not the drivers causing the accidents.
just dont drive the motorcycle in town then
also i find it oddly specific that you remember the fact you've avoided 7 accidents
The majority of motorcycle deaths are single vehicle accidents.
I can't drive. I never learned. All those videos of car accidents I saw on the internet gave me severe anxiety about driving. Weird thing is I don't care about riding in a vehicle but put me behind the wheel and I freak out.
Exposure therapy and driving classes bruh. If you care to, that's how you get over it.
why is Ganker so full of pussies it wasn't always this bad
>spent 1.5 years learning to drive (on and off because of lockdown shit)
>finally get to test
>10 minutes in
>"sorry bro you failed because you didn't check your mirrors enough"
>can't book another one because COVID created a huge backlog
>if I ever bother again I'll also have to retake the theory and deal with fricking moronic petrol, tax and insurance prices
frick this gay earth
I didn't pass until I tried looking at each mirror sequentially looking at one every other second.
They're watching your eyes, you have to spend as much time not looking where you're going, as counterproductive as it might seem.
>Took my license test in '99
>Driving pic related, my grandfather's chevy van
>Failed the parallel parking portion because the chevy is a fricking boat amd the instructor was your typical fat, white trash DMV archetype
>Failed me after one attempt (you're supposed to get three tries)
>Grandfather said frick that b***h and drove me to another DMV where I was able to pass that same day
>30 minute long exam every 1 month
>failing for bullshit reasons like not looking at every mirror every 0.5 seconds like some crack addict sc2 pro or not doing a moronic park in 1 attempt
>"you are not bad but I can't let you pass anon. Just practice more."
>same moronic boomers got their license in a 5 minute "exam" back in their day
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i failed my test the first time and then went to the next town over and passed right away
>failed 10 or 11 times, lost count
>when i passed i just went super moron slow
>have had 5 minor accidents/scrapes since
GOT LICENSE DONT CARE
I remember this bullshit. My instructor let me know ahead of time to make a show of adjusting the mirrors even if they were in the correct position because examiners are fricking moronic.
What are your WORST driving experiences?
>semi truck cuts right in front of me in a roundabout
scared the god damn shit out of me
I was in a roundabout and a little girl on a bicycle came straight out of a bush as I was accelerating from the roundabout. Nearly hit the poor girl. Hit the brakes hard as frick. Afterwards I learned to always, always look forward.
First driving test
I came up to a pedestrian crossing and there was a guy on his phone at the side
I stopped for him to cross but he didnt, just stood there talking
He made eye contact with me and waved me to go, signaling to me he wasnt going to cross
I step on the pedal and the instructor immediately slams the brake pedal and fails me because I'm not "legally" allowed to start driving until the pedestrian crosses or leaves
It took me months and hundreds of pounds to get a new test
>I step on the pedal and the instructor immediately slams the brake pedal and fails me because I'm not "legally" allowed to start driving until the pedestrian crosses or leaves
that's wrong though
Yeah driving tests are fricked in the UK. The whole system is designed to make you fail and give them more money
I really don't miss the suspense of them having you drive back to the test centre in perfect silence just so they can say "aaand it's not going to be a pass this time". Would rather they threw me out of the car as soon as I failed.
Same, not to mention having to drive to the test center and wait until it was your time.
Honestly, half of the time it felt like they were capitalizing on that suspense to make you more prone to making mistakes and frick you over.
in spain you don't know if you passed until some days after the test, they had to stop telling you if you failed on the spot because people got violent with the examiner (probably all the gypsies and menas kek)
Eurogay here, passed without any problems in the UK. Its more expensive in rest of EU, because there is a set amount of hours with driving school before you can take a test. I just came to UK booked a test with a friends car, drove for 30 minutes and got the licence. And theory test was a complete joke.
>that pic
what the frick?
Most people in the UK do 30 hours of driving with a driving school before they take the test, but that's because most of them have no clue how to drive and wouldn't take the risk of going in blind on the test.
Probably not the sort of answer you're looking for but when my car started misfiring. I had to borrow another car for a month while I spent what little free time I had trying to fix it.
the time a deer ricocheted off my car into an old guy on the sidewalk
>50mph on a main road, heavy traffic
>dumbfrick courier in his high roof van nonchalantly flies onto the road from adjacent 90 degree street
>nowhere to swerve, have to slam the brakes, pray the EBA and ABS do their job, and the poor frick behind me is paying attention
>match his speed two feet behind his homosexual ass
>sweating bullets, heart in the throat
>drive resumes
>30 seconds later, the fricking gigaBlack person slams his brakes and THEN turns on his turn lights, and disappears in another adjacent street
how the frick are are these people even alive?
Van drivers, specifically work van drivers are fricking insane.
This. Trade gays in their shitty beat-up vans are worse drivers than all Poles and alcoholized Lithuanians put together.
First driver's test, I was nervous wreck and felt like I had been tossed in a pit of snakes.
The time I was looking for a parking space as I was getting home on a Friday evening and slammed into the car in front of me. Never fully turned my head to look away for extended periods of time since.
Literally any time I'm stuck behind some grandpa driving at a fifth of the speed limit in a road where I can't overtake him. I'm not saying countries should start employing (within reason) a minimum speed limit on roads like they do on highways, but...
>driving on freeway at night with some cold fast food in tow
>in the distance ahead is some swervy cedan
>no way im getting close to that b***h, frick
>truck enters the freeway
>cedan grazes it (it was dark i didnt see that well)
>sparks everywhere
>the cedan flips and is violently flipping around, the trunk opened and papers/belongings are flying everywhere
>i casually slow down and change lanes and drive past the flaming, still spiraling car, crunching over several of his belongings
>hurry home and eat
im a bad samaritan
I never understood stuff like this, when are you supposed to slow down and help the person and when are you supposed to just say "sucks to suck" and keep driving?
Obviously I assume if you caused the accident then you stop, but you wouldn't get in trouble for passing through that scenario otherwise would you?
it'd probably be helpful to report it and be a witness so you can say who was at fault. but also nobody got time for that shit.
You don't have to do shit. If you think it looks bad though it's morally correct to at least call for an ambulance. Let them figure out the rest.
>Just driving
>Want to overtake a truck
>There's a shitton of time since people driving on the other lane are far away
>Suddenly the engine decides to get fricked at that very moment and works at like third of full power meaning it takes ages to actually speed up
>Despite pressing on gas pedal with as much force as I can I'm suddenly just barely faster than the truck as I'm in the middle of overtaking it
>Cars ahead of me are getting closer
>Somehow manage to overtake the truck in time and just barely avoid a head on collission
Later I went to a mechanic ASAP since my car became basically undrivable and yeah turned out engine got fricked and it seems it happened at that moment for whatever reason that could have really fricked me over for life.
In hindsight I should have just slowed down and returned behind the truck but at that moment I had no idea something was wrong with my engine.
It's kind of insane to think how much of an impact a singular random mechanical failure can have on your life.
>It's kind of insane to think how much of an impact a singular random mechanical failure can have on your life.
If a lack of power puts you in danger it's probably your own fault.
>It's kind of insane to think how much of an impact a singular random mechanical failure can have on your life.
It is. Scary thought.
did the engine really shat the bed on you, or did you just forget to downshift in the panic?
Downshift to third gear, anon. That's what I always do and it's never failed me.
>It's kind of insane to think how much of an impact a singular random mechanical failure can have on your life.
yep
all of my worst driving experiences were my own doing. i've never hit anything yet but I have been driving like a shithead for at least 10 years
>going 50 on a 2 lane highway
>turn left onto an angled side road without braking
>the side road turns left while cresting a large hill
>only release throttle while going over hill, still doing like 40-50
>i'm driving a u-haul ford transit btw
>can feel multiple wheels lose traction with the ground
>entire van yaws sideways a couple degrees
>"land" on the other side of the crest and still made the turn
>despite being almost beyond the edge of control
pretty fun. besides that and a little understeer once in a corner while driving a '14 focus hatch i would say the experiences i both love to relive and regret the most are times when i've driven like i was in a nissan altima on the 101/280 in california. slicing 5 lanes at a time or jumping into offramps after the white line, driving like it's GTAO etc
also as a cargay this thread is pretty depressing. the number of people who don't enjoy driving, or had to be taught to drive is dismaying, and i'm a fat frick american. not all our roads are straight lines btw
>rainy day
>going downhill
>tires bald as frick
>going ~50mph
>2 lanes, I'm on left, someone is right beside me on the right
>guy in front of me goes to a stop to turn
>I hit my brakes
>car goes full slip n slide, doesn't slow down one bit
>guy on right is matching my speed
>options are to swerve into oncoming traffic, hit guy in front of me at 50mph or bump guy on right
>desperately trying to brake, still not working
>hit the accelerator, weave between guy in front and on right, inches away from either of them
deer jumped out of a bush and into my windshield while going 70
engine got shoved back so far my legs almost got cut off
covered in blood at 1 in the morning with no cell service
thankfully highway patrol was a few minutes behind me, pulled over and helped me out, wrote up a report saying it was an act of god so my insurance had to pay everything, then threw the buck in his trunk "for dinner" and drove me to my house after the tow truck dragged my wreck off to the junkers
only good experience I ever had with cops but he was great and sent me a letter a few weeks later asking if I was still doing ok and recommended a therapist if I was having anxiety
Hit a kangaroo on the road (pretty common in rural NSW) and it fricked up the front of my car. Ended up paying nearly a thousand all in all to get it repaired.
I haven't been driving for very long so I don't have a lot to remember, but mainly myself. I have a horrible habit (not limited to driving) where if anything happens that isn't exactly how I expect it to, I just lock up momentarily and completely lose focus.
I was driving to work one day and some dude walked into the road toward my car saying "excuse me sir" and I locked up and just kept driving forward, I turned slightly and went around him but that was pure instinct and with 0 thinking of what to do.
Besides that, probably the time some dude was on the wrong side of the road and was driving right toward me.
I learned to drive in gran turismo, failed the test only once and that was for not stopping on red light and speeding
There's no market for it. The basics of learning to drive any car can be learned in under a minute, without driving a car. The specifics of how an individual car handles can only be muscle-memory learned by driving that car.
Ownership and maintenance of a small fleet of shit boxes to teach new drivers will always be cheaper than lining people up for a simulated environment that probably needs more maintenance than the actual car. Also when the business goes south, you can just sell the cars to some seedy israelite frick dealer. No one wants to buy a used car sim setup. People build fricking avionics and spaceship rigs, not rigs for cars.
>get driver's license
>have to come to an extra 4-hour class within x months
>pay €108 eurobucks
>you don't need to have any certification on you at all that you've taken the test in case you get pulled over
>literally just exists to screw new drivers out of some money and to discourage people from getting their license
God I fricking hate Europe, someone please drop thermobaric bombs on the EU
You can get a licence in any other EU c**t that docent require it.
In germany you have to go to that class so you get a pint reduced
also the point system is moronic as frick and only made to frick you over
>there's no skill teaching games that use porn as a motivator
if we're going to be degenerate we might as well be degenerate and educated
Eurobros, I need to understand something.
Why does every single driving instructior have a stick up their ass? Driving is not as complicated as they make it out to be and the only way to learn it correctly is to learn from mistakes and practice, HOWEVER
every single driving instructor I've had was absolutely anal about following traffic rules to a T. I mean half of the shit they're trying to teach you is either
>superflous rules you learn on your own
>routine tricks that you learn by being a part of traffic
Why do they all act like driving is a high art where not a single mistake is permitted?
Yeah, I get that you need to be careful and now put others in danger but that's like saying you'll not get aids white visiting gay orgies. It's bound to happen at some point. What's important is how you act when it does.
Because instructors have to teach moronic normalgays
because their job is to make you exam-worthy within 30 hours of driving, and you're not supposed to make too many mistakes during the exam. they're not here to teach you how to drive, they prepare you to pass the exam
>they prepare you to pass the exam
they only do that for the final few lessons
most of the time they do frick-all and let you make mistakes without letting you learn from them because frick you for not knowing what you did wrong
frick them, scummy c**ts
They dedicated their entire life to teaching people how to drive 'correctly'
When you make poor life choices, you can either give up or embrace them.
>They dedicated their entire life to teaching people how to drive 'correctly'
no, they didn't. it's a simple superiority complex
>I know what you don't and I will make you suffer if you want to learn it, despite you paying me out the ass
>every single driving instructor I've had was absolutely anal about following traffic rules to a T.
>Why do they all act like driving is a high art where not a single mistake is permitted?
Their job isn't really to teach you to drive but rather to teach you how to pass the test. It's basically like how school education works where it's designed to make you pass exams rather than actually educate you.
My old man always told me that the real lessons came after I'd gotten the license. Unsurprisingly, he was right.
don't know how it is elsewhere in Europe, but my instructor was chillest mofo under the sun
the tricky part is that your final test, you have a fricking traffic cop (sometimes 2 of them) on the backseat, so you really need to know your stuff
They're teaching you how to pass the test, not how to drive. You learn how to drive when you're on your own.
>not a single mistake is permitted?
Because a single mistake can kill or maim other people who aren't careless dipshits.
Youre getting trained to pass the exam, not to actually drive. Especially the parallel parking is a joke. Like you spend all your training in a shitbox you don't even own. And roughly 2000 eurobucks later you pass your exam and you're in your own car and need to actually use lmao.
I remember some stupid bullshit about how heavy a trailer I can pull with the basic eurocuck license. Like you're going to roll up to ikea and ask them to please weigh the couch you're buying.
literally in the product description
I learnt how to drive from this game.
It just needs pedestrians but it is good for learning to drive on the road.
>been driving for 15 years
>never learned to parallel park
no one will ever know my secret
Everything has a backup cam now, which makes it easier, but I'm still with you. I'd rather drive around for an hour to find a parking garage than park on a busy city street.
Okay
So your vehicle turns/pivots around the back wheels.
So you back in, and try to twist in the front.
Beyond that its really just a matter of depth perception, mirror setup or backing camera.
>can parallel and reverse park easily
>shit my pants each time i front park because i'm scared i'll hit the car in the parking spot in front AND never figured out how to angle my car properly going in without hitting cars on either side
>almost 35 y.o.
>never gotten a driver's license
>never driven a car
>never gave a shit about cars
Also driving/racing games are the most boring shit ever except Grand Tourismo 1 & 2.
>spoiler
Gran Turismo*
I'm 24 years old and still don't have a license.
You must get 0 pussy or live in new york
Nothing dries up a woman more than hearing you're a neet with no ambition
How the frick do you make any money
You're literally limiting yourself to the few shitty jobs in your immediate local area. Can't even make your own side income.
I learned about weight shifting and the friction circle from Gran Turismo. Worked for me.
Literally Beam NG
>no g-forces or tire feedback
>mismatched perspective giving an inaccurate sense of speed and lane usage
outside of rules of the road scenarios, there's no point
Nobody needs a simulator to learn how to fricking drive lmao
What I'd like to know is how people learn to drive in lawless countries. In every country there's a region where people drive like madmen (and sometimes that country is italy and the region is the entire country), but there's rules. I've come back from a trip to Africa recently and that shit is just pandemonium, we're here arguing abouy turnabout but over there they barely register red lights.
You just get in a car and go. If you don't die then congratulations, you passed.
>I've come back from a trip to Africa recently
White woman detected, I said audibly while typing it out
Learning how to drive in a school/by instructor is cheaper than building a gaming PC and proper driving sim setup.
>million dollar idea
More like minus million dollar idea, dumass.
While all you homosexuals were crying about GTA IV's car physics, I passed all my driving tests first try, steered out of several accidents unscratched, held two professional driving jobs, and never got a ticket.
>it's a moron going 70 in the left lane clogging up miles of traffic episode
literally every time I try to drive. I don't even use the left lane, I cruise in the right lane because i'm never in a hurry, but I still marvel at the stupidity.
Those morons are the whole reason you have other morons darting between multiple lanes just to get through.
>he suddenly decides to become self aware when you pass on the right and speeds up to 85
>got license on a whim
>barely practiced at all, felt natural anyway
>passed driving test easily first try
>bought a 97 4runner just 11 days later
>some months pass
>get a job as an Amazon delivery driver
i thought driving was this easy for everyone. i'm moronic and it came quickly
>Taking driving test
>Parallel parking up first
>Horribly frick it up despite practicing for an hour straight earlier
>Break off chunk of the curb but my tire never actually goes onto the curb
>"You know, I'm supposed to fail you automatically if your tire goes on the curb but since it broke and you're still on the road, I won't"
>That same attempt I got failed for speeding like 2 miles above the speed limit
I passed the next attempt but I never understood how THAT was the breaking point but breaking off concrete was just a -5 points or whatever
the instructor just didn't give a shit, nobody parallel parks these days anyway
>he doesn't podrace
fricking casuals
neat but still no g-forces
G-forces don't have any effect on safe driving habits.
I think he means inertia
>driving is saf-
>posts a F1 2022 replay
sausaga
Oh my God! Is that a car crashing?! I didn't even know that was possible, those poor people, I always thought driving was super safe.
He literally walked away from that unscathed. I don't even give a shit about car racing, this was a huge news story.
I personally blame... Russell. Or was it Gasly?
Gasly was going for a gap but Russell closed it without checking if anyone was there
Does the car trailing the F1 cars go at the same speed?
wtf
It clearly doesn't
>Get bribed to crash the competitor's car
Why doesn't more people do this?
Put a child in a go-kart. It's no different than throwing them into a pool. They'll figure it out
I think the new flight simulator games are pretty sweet
you know what the moronic thing about training wheels is? you don't learn how to ride a reguar bicycle with them. you learn how to ride a bicycle with training wheels with them.
unless the simulation is absolutely spot on, people will learn the wrong things, they'll learn how to drive in the simulation, not in reality.
it works with modern airplanes because these things more or less fly themselves, and the training is more about the interface and proper procedures. doesn't work like that with cars.
>taking driving exam
>driving down a slow road, stop sign is coming up soon
>proctor says "Stop here."
>think he means at the stop sign
>slow down to prepare to stop at sign
>"ANON WTF ARE YOU DOING STOP THE FRICKING CAR RIGHT FRICKING NOW"
>stop car 20ft from stop sign
>"ok you can go now I just wanted to check if your car could stop"
>slowly creep up to stop sign and stop again before proceeding
idk what was up with that
>check if your car could stop
he didn't have his own brake pedal?
Learning to drive is like 2% learning to operate the vehicle and 98% learning how not to get killed by all of the morons around you.
sometimes it does feel like most people got their papers for a blowjob, doesn't it?
I live in a shithole where 1/5 drivers are slags in massive frick-off trucks and SUVs constantly staring at their phones.
Makes me want to get a big truck so if one of them hits me I won't get completely fricking obliterated. This is a israelite positive feedback loop.
I have failed my driving test 5 times now. Any tips on what i should remember.
[Spoiler]European[/Spoiler]
during the test just keep reminding yourself that only women don't know how to drive
>Any tips on what i should remember.
how much money you wasted on it you dumb frick
>get my mom to become a certified driving instructor in texas
>it's literally a single paper to fill out, takes 5 minutes.
>mom decides i'm good enough to not need a driving exam
>fills out the "exempt from final exam" document
>i just get my drivers license without doing anything
haven't killed anyone yet
Why do autists get in such a fit over driving or automatic/manual or all these other stupid fricking pointless """""techniques""""?
Put your foot on the brake and hold it
Move the shifter to Drive
Drive around
Park when you're done, move the shifter to reverse if you need to back up
DONE WHY DO PEOPLE OVERCOMPLICATE DRIVING ITS THE SIMPLEST FRICKING THING
How do I get over anxiety of driving on highways?
DRIVE b***h
By driving on them and going 40 over the limit
With a gun.
if you can drive down the street you can drive on a highway its the same shit its all still driving and sitting in one lane unless you need to take an exit or get around someone
Unironically I learned how to drive on highways before any back roads or streets, it’s all the same shit
It should be illegal to design towns that aren't largely walkable
*frickable
We don't have to pick and choose now
It's cute nocars think urban planning is a result of a car conspiracy and not bureaucratic incompetence that heavily negatively impacts driving as well.
A carspiracy.
also worth remembering suburbs (the main focus of these complaints) are explicitly built for people who commute into a larger urban area to work. Being car-focussed is the whole point. They suck but no one without a car has any reason to live in them.
dont high schools have drivers ed? lol is op younger than a high schooler?
they don't homie. driving as a teen and getting a licence is lock behind a 300 pay wall.
In Australia you do a brief section on stuff like road rules in highschool but you're on your own to actually learn how to drive the car
There are driver simulators
It would be interesting to see how well a sim would work for teaching a little kid how to drive.
There are, but they are referred to as simulators rather than games and they are usually sold directly to driving schools. Actually, I don't think there is more than 1~3 specimen.
>first car
>rusted out shitbox civic
>start modding it and am now turning it into a riced out rustbox
Someone please stop me before I go down further into the abyss
It's your destiny as a spic
This is just popular online multiplayer class shooter Team Fortress 2
I just want to learn how to use a clutch. I got embarassed when I tried my friend's car and stalled at first because I thought you legit could stop at 1st gear
no bully plz
I got my license at 21 but I don't really drive much. I think people in this thread overestimate how important driving is if you live in a dense metropolitan area. Usually the public transport is good enough for 90% of my travel, then I borrow my friend's car I really need to drive.
get a wheel alignment done
Is a Volkswagen Golf GTI a good first car? I always liked how it looks but I've heard people shittalking how shit the interior and the reliability is.
Just find some 6+ year old shitbox for your first car. It's a good financial buffer for when you inevitably end up destroying it because of your lack of experience driving or failure to recognize the need for maintenance.
because you would need
>a powerful compuiter
>a VR headset
>a steering wheel
>a shifter
>a mount for the steering wheel and shifter
>floor pedels
it wouldnt exactly be something you find on steam and buy on a whim
beamng.drive
What does car sex feel like bros?
I feel like I missed out.
It's not great. Full out sex in a car is fricking shit unless you have a big car and some proper privacy. Now, car blowjobs and general teasing? top tier as frick. I remember getting my ex horny while she was driving after picking me up sometimes from uni. And when I was driving she would grab my dick and make me hard on purpose and dirty talk me until we got home and fricked like animals. But full on sex in the car? nah.
Virgin here
How do you get a girl horny while she’s driving? Like touch her legs or?
boobie grab
t. another virgin
That’s it? Is it that easy?
Bro it literally takes 10 hours or less to learn how to drive.
>Learning to drive
>Keep almost wrapping myself around poles because I'm used to accelerating through corners in videogames and doing sick drifts
uhhhhh I don't feel so good about this whole driving thing bros..
first time I learned to drive I literally did the tina thing from bob's burgers where she panics and doesn't stop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ_EKHGgWJQ&ab_channel=SC
I was with my mum and had to drive around a corner but I wasn't turning and stopped before hitting a tree. Then she drove me to another street and I did the same thing again
next time I drove with an instructor and did it normally then got my license
play actual sims and drive FWD shitboxes
The only racing game I ever played was trackmania
I literally practiced driving in first person in Forza Horizon 3 because it's one of the few games where people drive on the correct side of the road.
I miss my Fiesta ST so bad bros. I remade it in Forza Horizon 4 after a foid rear ended it at the traffic lights and gave me whiplash, but it's not the same.
I have a license for automatic vehicles only will try and save for a manual car and to add restrictions to my driver's license when time comes.
Man I really wanna learn how to drive manual but the car keeps stalling on me any tips to avoid it?
>Eurotrash pissing their pants about driving manual again
You fricking nerds shape your whole personality about it I swear
hydrogen > electric
>There's no driving simulator to teach
Did you do even ANY research before you posted
Oh right this is v
Mutts seething hard ITT
There is 0 reason to get a manual drive transmission unless you're super in drag/street racing or into collection old/specialty cars. The benefit to driving one hasn't been there in the last 25 years minimum, although I would argue it's still good know how to drive in an emergency
You don't use manuals for drag racing
>hasn't been there in the last 25 years minimum
Don't pretend to be an authority about shit before you were born, you fricking idiot.
>The benefit to driving one hasn't been there in the last 25 years minimum
Nah, it wasn't until CVT that auto could actually match manual. But there's still an advantage, repair is like 20x cheaper.
Gran Turismo unironically taught me how to do shit like feathering the gas, how to recover from a fishtail, etc. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say it saved my life already.
You do you feather the pedal with digital input?
I played on a gamepad, but even with the DS3's pressure-sensitive X button you have some throttle control. There are of course also assists such as TCS that are there to dose your inputs should you desire it.
>Driving test Thursday, failed my first one due to some miniscule parking errors (car like 1-2 inches over their arbitrary lines) but otherwise easy parking. didn't road test but feel fine driving
>go to practice earlier today
>cannot reverse park or parallel for shit, absolutely botching every attempt for an hour straight
>confidence shattered
Am I gonna make it, bros? I finally decided to get over my car anxiety this year and just want my license over with.
>didn't bother learning how to drive
>soon there will be no functioning cars in my country anyway
Played the long-term game bros.