No friendly rivals. No legendary godmons. No gay fursuit starters. No UFO and construction worker jobmon cross gen evos. No ice creams and trash bags. No james turner dogshit.
Don't ever fricking forget it zoomzooms
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Is there anything sadder than fricking johbabs? They have all the nostalgia autism of Kanto normies and none of the self awareness of it.
Ever since the pro nuzlocker made that Johto rant every single Johtoddler on /vp/ started having a collective mental breakdown. Johtogays used to be one of the most silent groups on this board, but now they're one of the most obnoxious.
>Johtogays used to be one of the most silent groups on this board
when was that??
gen when i was kid good
gen when i was teenager and went through "pokemon is for kids" phase bad
these exact things have been said about every gen
Based as frick. God I miss the days when we all agreed that Gen 2 > Gen 3. Too many Hoenn babies around now.
>Sheimi
ffs
also NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN’T JUST GIVE IT PROPER ANIME EYES
>No legendary godmons
The plot of this movie is literally that catching three birds will throw off the cosmic balance and make the world explode.
Not canon.
Ho-oh and Lugia were basically regional semi-deities to contrast Mewtwo's man-made origins. All of their supposed feats remain legends and hearsay, because GSC understood the point of the franchise is secrets.
>Don't ever fricking forget it zoomzooms
Damn right. Zoomers will never know how mysterious it was back then. You'd load up GameCheats.com and look for a way behind Bill's house to catch the PokeGods-- the gods of the pokemon world and the strongest pokemon ever.
I too long for simpler times, but dwelling on it is unhealthy.
gen poo needs to stop trying to lump itself with genwon
Lugia was literally a Shudo invention for the movie that was later shoehorned into the game. Sugimori admitted they were conditioned by merch and the anime when designing the gen 2 pokemon.
Izushi said they added all the baby pokemon to appeal to more female players.
""""Red""""'s ace pokemon is a fricking unevolved pikachu because of pokemon yellow which is directly based on the trashnime
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Wow thank you for showing me how much better the Johto designs are compared to kanturds. Pokemon really hit its peak in gen 2
>how much better the Johto designs are compared to kanturds. Pokemon really hit its peak in gen 2
this is a selfown because gen 2 is literally ridden from top to bottom with gen 1 pokemon
>Lugia was literally a Shudo invention for the movie that was later shoehorned into the game.
nope
>Sugimori admitted they were conditioned by merch and the anime when designing the gen 2 pokemon.
we already know most gen 2 pokemon can trace their concept designs at least as far back as beta designs in 1997. anime had barely gotten going, merch wasnt firing anywhere near all cylinders yet
>Izushi said they added all the baby pokemon to appeal to more female players.
the only person who would think this is bad is an incel
>""""Red""""'s ace pokemon is a fricking unevolved pikachu because of pokemon yellow which is directly based on the trashnime
have sex
>nope
Due to the critical success of Mewtwo Strikes Back, Shudo was given a lot of freedom for his next Pokemon project. Though he was not a Pokemon designer, Lugia's design can be attributed to Shudo himself. This also makes Lugia one of the few, if not the only, Pokemon to be designed by someone in the anime writing staff rather than by the Game Freak design team. According to Shudo's translated writings, he saw Lugia as a Pokemon that was both male and female despite having a masculine voice in the movie. He actually noted feelings of regret regarding Lugia's masculine voice, noting that he saw Lugia as a maternal being rather than a paternal one. Apparently, towards the end of his life, Shudo wrote a lot about Lugia, and not all that he wrote was a positive reflection of his time spent working on the iconic legendary.
Shudo made it known that he turned towards alcohol and drugs while working, especially when it came to creating Lugia and the second Pokemon movie.
>we already know most gen 2 pokemon can trace their concept designs at least as far back as beta designs in 1997. anime had barely gotten going, merch wasnt firing anywhere near all cylinders yet
"I see. Most Pokemon in Gold & Silver were of the cute variety, but this time…”
Sugimori: “Indeed, there were a lot of kiddy designs, and some fans were starting to say Pokemon had become too babyish, so one theme for Ruby & Sapphire was returning to the coolness of monsters.
“In your previous interview at the time of Gold & Silver (February 2000 issue), you said when you were designing Pokemon, you had to consider merchandising, and that created some constraints.”
Sugimori: “Rather than constraints, I’d say we were careful about a lot of things. Like we’d say ‘if we don’t make a Pokemon this way, they’ll be difficult to animate in the TV show.’ We didn’t really think about those kinds of things this time, which might be bad for the anime staff and independent artists.”
>“In your previous interview at the time of Gold & Silver (February 2000 issue), you said when you were designing Pokemon, you had to consider merchandising, and that created some constraints.”
>Sugimori: “Rather than constraints, I’d say we were careful about a lot of things. Like we’d say ‘if we don’t make a Pokemon this way, they’ll be difficult to animate in the TV show.’ We didn’t really think about those kinds of things this time, which might be bad for the anime staff and independent artists.”
Not their problem.
pure ignorance if not bait
>we already know most gen 2 pokemon can trace their concept designs at least as far back as beta designs in 1997.
Most designs were either completely changed or were different Pokémon who got replaced. Unlike you I've actually seen the beta designs.
The Beasts really do mog the Birds
Those beautiful color palettes…
Friendly faces…
More round shapes…
Johto really IS comfy, personified…
That pic literally proves /vp/ is just a contrarian b***h, and everyone will always b***h about pokemon going bad. Gen 4 starters are seen great designs, Corviknight is really respected, Garchomp, Mega evolutions were widely popular, contrary to pic in OP. Shows people only look at the past with rose-tinted glasses, while hating the present and future.
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The best she/they can offer is "lalalala I can't hear you"?
i can hear what you're saying fine, but what you're saying is dumb as frick. youre wasting both our time, touch grass
of course
when have johtoddlers ever made actual arguments addressing actual points?
I think what many don't realize is that gens after 2 gave Ghost, Fighting and Bug types a lot of viable ringers.
>GameFreak didn't know how to balance the game in Gen 2
this is known
>ghost
Misdrevus was OU and had a genuine niche as a defensive Ghost type. It just never gets the respect of deserves because of Game Freaks boner for Gengar, so NPCs just assume Misdreauus was a shitter.
>fighting
True, but its less about early fighting types being all around bad and more to do with later gens giving fighting types actual moves other than Dynamiss Punch
>bug
Most gen2 bug type (except for the early game pair and Yamna) has niches ans were good in Gen 2 (even Scizor despite not having moves was still decent, but obviously didn’t become the staple it is today until gen4 )
Yeah, I don't know why anon mentioned Bug when Forretress, Scizor, Heracross, and even Shuckle are all far better than the bug types in Gen 1.
I find it greatly difficult to believe that anyone over the age of 20 is typing out shit like "zoomzooms".
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>THING I GREW UP WITH = GOOD
>NEW THING = BAD
people keep saying zoomers are moronic but millennials are some of the cringiest manchildren moron generations ever, go back watching your shitty harry potter or whatever and stop it
>No legendary godmons
soulless
CHADon and CHADogre shit on all other legendaries
Cope about it boomers and zoomers, Hoenn won
Kyogre isn't that good of a design
But Rayquaza is universally hailed as the best box legendary
Yes I love May, Barry, Cheren, and Bianca.
Yes I love all of the god mons.
Yes I love Blaziken and Infernape
Yes I love Magnezone. rhyperior is dogshit tho
Yes I love Garbador. vanniluxe is dogshit tho
Yes I love Trevenant and Golurk from James Chadner.
Yes I'm 23 and grew up with Gens 3 and 4.
>Brainlets on the early internet were complaining about something relatively new at the time
>”muh nostalgic thing was better!”
>he posts this like it’s proof of something
Go away.
Johto era was good and it still is. I'm glad it didn't have homosexuals like Hop, Hau and Avery.
back when johtoddlers were the dominant agegroup on the internet and had nobody to spit the facts back at them
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Imagine thinking Luigi isn't a Pokémon
Actually there are 382 Pokemon; Hoenn Dex -Natu/Anorith lines.
You're close though.
Nothing wrong with Xatu and if you think Anorith and Armaldo is the worst you've got an issue
https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/54442692/
I wont acknowledge them aside from acknowledging that (and why) I wont acknowledge them.
>No legendary godmons
What is Mew?