They represented the universe before the big bang, so to speak. They had to die in order for the world to begin existing. If the dragons had won the war then all of existence would've remained stagnant
You don't know that. There is implied to be a significant amount of time before the lords acquiring their souls and the creation of the first flame. People in that era were probably terrorized by these things.
Ah, so you're a moron who believes Gwyn and his knights were born right there in that room, fully grown and elderly, because you can't comprehend that life had already sparked before the lords pilgrimaged to the kiln and became gods.
Elden Ring does this too. Before Marika, it was an age of stone dragons and intelligent beasts, where people lived short lives. Marika was even related to Maliketh, implying a sort of inter-species marriage or some sort. In Maliketh’s boss room you see a statue of a lady surrounded by three dogs (you just KNOW), further enforcing the idea that the “shadows” of the Empyreans are wolf men of Farum Azula, and their contingency of madness is actually just them losing their intelligence, which appears to have re-started as soon as the player defeats Radahn and re-starts the course of fate. Marika’s own people, the Nox/Numen, tried mimicking the ancient dragons, to usurp Placidusax, probably. They—the eternal cities— upset the pre-Marika Greater Will. Marika left a ruined Farum Azula in the sky, and had the eternal cities buried underground.
There are a lot of prior game parallels in Elden Ring. Millicent is Elden Ring’s Sekiro.
How does their immortality work?
Supposedly it's just that they have unbreakable scales and don't die of aging and before Nito there were no plagues or illness so as soon as Gwyn took them off with lightning they became vulnerable.
But then how come you can kill Kalameet and cut the everlasting dragon's tail with a non-lightning weapon?
You could argue that Nito also brough death by aging but that doesn't explain Seath's whole no scales = not immortal.
Ok but then what's the deal with Seath? i thought the scales granted immortality and since he lacked those he was a mortal and therefore used the ultimate crystal, but if scales don't equal immortality and they became mortal because of the flames why was he still seething about scales and immortality?
This, I never understood why people didn't get this. Life and death did not exist before the flame, and that is why the fire dying leads to people being undead. Stuck between life and death.
They probably took advantage of the stagnant state of the world, and didn’t want things to change, similar to Gwyn refusing to let the age of fire end.
yea. what's your point?
They did nothing.
>everlasting
>doesn't last forever
That's already one thing wrong.
Eeehh they're still alive after you break them apart, i'd say it counts.
"Everlasting" because they are the only thing that can stop the Age of Dark
They were basically just statues
They represented the universe before the big bang, so to speak. They had to die in order for the world to begin existing. If the dragons had won the war then all of existence would've remained stagnant
they were weak
More like they got betrayed by Seethe cause he was jealous of their scales
>have one weakness that no one outside of your species even knows
>"LEL THEYRE SOOOOOOOOO WEAK XD"
You are an idiot.
You don't know that. There is implied to be a significant amount of time before the lords acquiring their souls and the creation of the first flame. People in that era were probably terrorized by these things.
The souls came from the first flame, not the reverse.
Ah, so you're a moron who believes Gwyn and his knights were born right there in that room, fully grown and elderly, because you can't comprehend that life had already sparked before the lords pilgrimaged to the kiln and became gods.
Gwyn also had an uncle, implying there were lineages predating Gwyn, and there was probably a lot more political intrigue than what he opening shows.
Elden Ring does this too. Before Marika, it was an age of stone dragons and intelligent beasts, where people lived short lives. Marika was even related to Maliketh, implying a sort of inter-species marriage or some sort. In Maliketh’s boss room you see a statue of a lady surrounded by three dogs (you just KNOW), further enforcing the idea that the “shadows” of the Empyreans are wolf men of Farum Azula, and their contingency of madness is actually just them losing their intelligence, which appears to have re-started as soon as the player defeats Radahn and re-starts the course of fate. Marika’s own people, the Nox/Numen, tried mimicking the ancient dragons, to usurp Placidusax, probably. They—the eternal cities— upset the pre-Marika Greater Will. Marika left a ruined Farum Azula in the sky, and had the eternal cities buried underground.
There are a lot of prior game parallels in Elden Ring. Millicent is Elden Ring’s Sekiro.
>Random butthole cuts off your tail
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>OOOOOOOOOOHH................oOOOooooHHH..........AHHHHHHHhhhhhhh.................AHHHHHHHHHHH
dude was hiding a fricking weapon in his tail, he should have known what was about to happen
Not until we find the flavor text hinting that the dragons did something wrong.
How does their immortality work?
Supposedly it's just that they have unbreakable scales and don't die of aging and before Nito there were no plagues or illness so as soon as Gwyn took them off with lightning they became vulnerable.
But then how come you can kill Kalameet and cut the everlasting dragon's tail with a non-lightning weapon?
You could argue that Nito also brough death by aging but that doesn't explain Seath's whole no scales = not immortal.
Death literally didn't exist until the flame, for anyone. By the time of the game it do exist thus you can kill them.
Ok but then what's the deal with Seath? i thought the scales granted immortality and since he lacked those he was a mortal and therefore used the ultimate crystal, but if scales don't equal immortality and they became mortal because of the flames why was he still seething about scales and immortality?
This, I never understood why people didn't get this. Life and death did not exist before the flame, and that is why the fire dying leads to people being undead. Stuck between life and death.
The world changed. Stone scales no longer offered immortality, so Seath had to pursue a different direction.
It’s not supposed to make sense.
Disparity didn’t exist, supposedly, and things like life and death came -after- the everlasting dragons.
But, archTREES denote growth, or life, so how was there no life? The dragons were moving. How is that not life?
Something happened that ‘petrified’ them, or the world, or something. It’s a cycle of course. Lords still arose.
They probably took advantage of the stagnant state of the world, and didn’t want things to change, similar to Gwyn refusing to let the age of fire end.
The dragon's were closer to sentient rocks than living beings.
I hate how the dragon form got worse with every game.
Wrong they lost they didn't wage war well.