They literally killed themselves with movie games.
They will keep raising games and ps plus price until their whole business crashes.
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They literally killed themselves with movie games.
This is how Nintendo wins...
False, PlayStation 5 is the fastest selling console of all time and is on track to sell 160 million or more lifetime.
With no games tho
>no mario
>no starfield
Oh no
Mario is more entertaining than starfield and I hate modern mario
Lots of people buy them just for FIFA. Not like they give a shit about other games
>playstation 5 is the fastest selling console of all time
no it isn't, it didn't even sell faster than the PS4
>no it isn't, it didn't even sell faster than the PS4
It's already on 50 million units, it's just a little bit slower than PS4 and it's catching up fast.
PS4 isn't even the fastest selling console of all time, and it's not selling faster than the PS4. Therefore, it's not the fastest selling console of all time.
Why do I give a frick I'm just giving you info that you seem to lack, I don't fricking care about your insecurities.
I didn't lack any information, I was correct in the first place you moronic c**t.
Based
Also based moron, gave me a good laugh, I've not read something so ignorant in quite a while.
>it's [...] slower than PS4
glad we agree
>muh hardware
>only software that sells on it are normalgay shit like cawadoody, sports games, and gta
really funny how snoy is terrified of giving out active user numbers
they know 90% of those snoystations are collecting dust in scalper warehouses
Eric, it can't outsell PS4, not to mention Switch.
Maybe it could hit 110 million in the end with deep discounts
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE SWITCH DOESN'T COUNT
the switch is competing with the ds, not the ps4 yeah. it's still gonna probably surpass both though.
GTAVI will absolutely change that
source, moronbro?
>fastest selling console of all time
Only Black folk buy Playstation tho
They're back buying Xbox like in the 360 days. PS4 was cheaper, so they bought that over the Xbox One. Now they're on the Series S.
>Now they're on the Series S.
He doesn’t know
my younger cousin just sold his xbox series (I forget which one, doesn't matter) for a ps5, we're black. Spiderman was a big deal even before Miles, dude.
>steals one console to buy the other
It's not the dumbest thing to do, but I don't understand why you didn't just steal the PS5 from the get-go.
Playstation's best selling region is Europe, Xbox's is America. Now tell me which region has more Black folk? I can't wait for you to say Europe in a poor attempt at cope.
America has more whites per capita.
No it doesn't you're extremely moronic for even making that statement. Europe is a continent, America is a country. Europe is almost double the American population
not something to be proud about.
Nah that's xbox,main selling region for PlayStation is Europe
>main selling region for PlayStation is Europe
have you seen europe these days anon?
>have you seen europe these days anon?
Considering I live there,yes
Then again I don't live in cuckcentral like Germany,France or Sweden
I'd tell you to take a look at the UK as well
After they left the EU no one really acknowledges them anymore ,let them drown in their own filth
>playstation 5 is the fastest selling console of all time
it's behind the ps4 and the switch
that is correct and Gankerermins will seethe.
>e fastest selling console of all time
I thought Xbox will seppuku themselves first but it seems PS wants to beat them on that..
More cultist lies.xargdv
Xbox has until 2027 to achieve their revenue goals or they're risking shutdown. in comparison people are claiming Sony is failing because.....well they just are.
homie the PS5 is getting mogged by a tablet and cardboard box combo
Neither Sony nor Microsoft consider Nintendo competition. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
>snoys literally have to plug their ears and yell to avoid facing reality
Quite literally the word straight from both corporations you sniveling moron. whining about "snoy" won't change that.
damn, if I walk outside and a crazy hobo tries to mug me, I can just say I don't consider him competition and he'll vanish into thin air!
thanks for the useful advice anon!
This guy is coping so hard for Snoy that he's carrying their water for free.
He's using corpo talk and telling us to not listen to our blind eyes. I guess that's one way to say Snoy first party games sell the most.
Your analogy makes no fricking sense you fricking imbecile. You're comparing someone committing a crime with how 2 companies see another.
It's not corpo speak you dumb frick. Quite literally neither Sony nor Microsoft consider Nintendo competition and this was said in internal memos and court testimony under oath. The only people who want to insist otherwise are morons like you
Sony has far more revenue from gaming than Nintendo.
oh so it's Revenue that matters to you now, not physical sales?
Nintendo and Microsoft both have far more money than Sony as a whole, and you are leaving out that it's the Playstation DIVISION that's fighting this battle, not all of Sony, just like how it's not all of Microsoft fighting their battle...but then they DID just settle a 69 BILLION dollar acquisition, didn't they?
>Microsoft has more money than Sony
True
>Nintendo has more money than Sony
False
Physical sales don't mean much if the potential profit is lower but regardless, Sony doesn't consider Nintendo competition. Microsoft has more money but they're still lagging behind and buying ABK actually showcases their desperation more than anything because they know they can't compete unless they consolidate. Xbox alone would have died years ago
>can't make argument
>posts images instead
>getting mad
>at a real quote
>from the chairman of Playstation
>Still didn't address the argument
>Doubles down because they know their position is weak.
>using Sony's market cap for their overall value to say Playstation is worth more than Nintendo
>actually being too moronic to know the difference
>expecting to get serious responses.
you know how much the Playstation Division is estimated to be worth? as of 20021 it was 37.5 Billion, Nintendo's Market ca, because they aren't a gaming DIVISION is 90 Billion because it's harder to see the value of the Playstation division, like it's being purposefully obscured or something.
perfect for morons like you who think they have a point.
>Sony has more gaming revenue than Nintendo
>moron then decides to bring up Market Cap as if it addresses the point.
rip jim ryan
The only reason he believes this is because he doesn't trust in his company to make a notable multiplayer game. Another directionless keynote worshiping business man.
He's the most profitable CEO in SIE history and the statement is just corpo bullshit to make Microsoft look like they're engaging in anti competitive behavior (which they were)
>when snoy says that they don't see Nintendo as a competitor its true and not corpo bullshit
>but when snoy says that the lack of COD will kill them it's not actually true
lol
lmao even.
Holy shit you're so fricking stupid. Why do you think bringing up COD somehow makes the argument against whether or not Sony sees Nintendo as competition? Explain it to me so I can laugh at you because I know you don't have an actual argument.
>Snoy has said that they don't see Nintendo as competition. This is apparently true because it was said in a document.
>Snoy has said that the lack of first party support from their (only?) competitors in the gaming industry will also kill them. But that's false because it was said in a document
These leaks are gonna cause more asshurt than the ABK deal going through. Shit if only they happened the day the deal closed. Some of you would have legit killed yourselves. Not that I'm trying to stop you or anything. Feel free to take that plunge either way.
Where did they say lack of support was going to kill them? Tell me where it says that. You morons talk about the leaks but then you showcase you actually know fricking nothing. That ABK statement said the merger was a problem, not that it was a fricking deathblow. Which is why the bottom of the statement has the planned response. A focus on first party content and development. You morons really need to stop letting Sony live in your head rent free,
>our business would never recover
>never recover
>never
Are you daft?
You can be the most profitable CEO and be the worst thing that happened to the company. See Bobby Kotick. PlayStation's VR efforts stalled because they deemed AA to be "unimportant", so they just have a $550 accessory getting mogged by a vr headset with a smartphone APU.
Guy was a total moron. With Covid19, basically anyone would've been the most profitable PlayStation CEO. Even the Nintendo 3DS was sold out during that time.
>Sony has far more revenue from gaming than Nintendo.
If leaks are anything to go by, Sony is only making money on Call of Duty and PS+, everything else they touch is a huge loss.
>It's not corpo speak you dumb frick. Quite literally neither Sony nor Microsoft consider Nintendo competition and this was said in internal memos and court testimony under oath.
Fantastic. So Snoy is going to lose a shit ton of money because they're absolutely dependent on Microsoft's first party games. Because they only peddle garbage that no one buys. Thanks for admitting it.
COD numbers were already crunched during the FTC trial and it was only roughly 1 billion. That's not "desperately dependent" numbers in contrast to their overall revenue. Quite frankly it's kinda sad to see you gays so hard up over a single company.
>Sony doesn't see Nintendo as competition, that was said in a sworn document
>sony without COD would die
>NOOO NOT THOSE SWORN STATEMENTS
I'm so happy these leaks happened right before Christmas. Second best gift I've received all week.
You've shown off your own room temp IQ by showing you didn't even address the point and brought up something else entirely in an attempt to deflect. Good job champ
see
And then keep sneething
Address the actual point moron instead of trying to deflect. Is admitting you were wrong and a fricking idiot that hard?
>That's not "desperately dependent" numbers in contrast to their overall revenue.
There's no other revenue.
According to what? Your imagination. Unlike Microsoft, Sony actually publishes their numbers.
>d-doesn't count
it doesn't really matter what they consider when there's a lot of overlap between the platforms and people have to budget their games accordingly, specially in today's economy
the PS5 outsells the switch constantly and literally, nobody bought labo, moron.
the switch outsold te PS5 for two entire years anon
Oink Oink Eric.
>Sony and Microsoft are competing for second place against Nintendo now
>thinking most people are going to have all three consoles in their home
Eric, you might as well view every Xbox sale as a negative Playstation sale right now, given the system barely have any differentiation and most houses are normies buying a fortnite/CoD machine.
>False, PlayStation 5 is the fastest selling console of all time and is on track to sell 160 million or more lifetime.
Console hardware sales are loses.
And Sony's first party games are also loses.
In short, Playstation is losing billions every year with the current model.
PS5 stopped selling at a loss this year, which is also where a huge spike of new consoles where pushed.
>PS5 stopped selling at a loss this year
It really isn't that simple, unfortunately. The margin is rather small and it can be accounted for only if the sale is actually made. Unsold consoles are still 100% loss. Even PS2 wasn't profitable outside of "israeli accounting", hardware is never profitable, there's a reason why PCs are so much more expensive.
T. Actually has about $50k in Sony stock
Did PS2 actually sell as much as they claim it did or was it also the result of skewed forecasting
50% of the ps2's sales were in it's years 7-14 mostly sold to South America. For a drastically reduced cost.
The second 80 million ps2s probably didn't make even half the money the first 80 million ps2s did
>Playstation making their first party big budget games and consoles loss leaders when they're evidently the only things people buy these days from Playstation
>the abysmal attach rates suggesting a good chunk of Playstation 5s are probably just rotting in Scalper Garages
I still never saw one irl, not even in a store, this shit doesn't even exist
>consoles sell less and less every generation
>PS5 will never ever touch ps4 or ps2 sales
>games sell less and less every generation
>Sony decides all games should have a 300 million dollar budget and they're going to raise prices again to 80$ then 90$
LOL
>consoles sell less and less every generation
>PS3: 80m
>PS4: 130m
>Wii: 100m
>Switch: 135m
Only Xbox has flopped hardware wise and that's because they abandoned the idea of exclusives and put ALL their games on PC. If Microsoft kept their games ONLY on Xbox they'd sell way more consoles but their goal believe it or not isn't even focused on selling consoles it's their entire Xbox ecosystem.
They don't make a profit from selling consoles.
Yes they do
that hasn't been true since the PS4 launched
Really? They didn't with the PS3 and the 360 because they were both going with the loss leader strategy. In Gen 8 they were meant to be profitable as soon as sold.
Yas! Queen slay!
They've been winning since day 1 mate.
They've been around since the 1800s.
They know exactly what they're doing.
Unironically.
Iwata 2011 gdc keynote was literally warning about this...motherfrickers ignored him. They derserve to suffer.
As did Phil Spencer years ago according to his leaked emails.
This is why MS and Nintendo are winning so hard because they dont focus on AAA games.
>As did Phil Spencer years ago according to his leaked emails.
Not saying that I don't believe you but do you have proof?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/09/24/xboxs-phil-spencer-delivers-cutting-correct-remarks-about-aaa-games-in-leaked-email/?sh=2839eaaa636f
https://www.polygon.com/23885593/xbox-leaks-aaa-games-phil-spencer
https://www.pcgamer.com/leaked-email-reveals-phil-spencers-damning-verdict-on-aaa-games-most-publishers-are-riding-the-success-of-franchises-created-10-years-ago/
https://www.gamesradar.com/in-a-leaked-email-phil-spencer-says-aaa-publishers-are-milking-their-top-franchises-and-struggling-to-find-new-hits/
Pick one article.
>MS is winning so hard
Yeah, winning that third place real hard. Not bad Phil after nearly 10 years as CEO
>MS is in third place
>gets 70% of all CODs sold on Playstation in the future
>no one buys first party PS games and the majority of their money comes from those COD sales
>MS makes more money for each game sold on the Snoystation than Snoy itself does
Snoy saying they're in second place is like a cuck saying that he's the real winner since his wife comes home to sleep on his bed each nice after fricking other dudes
Here's another moron claiming the majority of Sony's money comes from COD when there's actual proof otherwise in their own financial reports because they actually report their numbers unlike MS.
Ack!!!!
>those don't COUNT!
This guy has been so assblasted that rage is literally blinding him.
Ya love to see it.
Ok moron. Like I asked you before because it was too hard for you last time. I need you to show me where Sony says they're in dire straights in this document. It says the deal is a threat, which it is, not that it's going to kill their platform. It even outlines their fricking response you stupid fricking idiot. Oh and hey, what happened to the evidence COD is the only revenue they have?
Still waiting on documentation showing Sony considers Nintendo competition.
homosexual, are you moronic as well? Sony and Nintendo are in competition. I don't care what some document says since I don't suck corporate dick.
>Still waiting on documentation showing Sony considers Nintendo competition.
Not that anon but.... thats kind of like asking for proof that your mom loves you. It should be self evident, i mean nintendo is the only video game console maker still making an insane amount of money. Why WOULDNT they be competition? How does that even make sense? Look at how many copies their first party games sell.
He's desperate to carry water for Snoy because otherwise Snoy would be dominant. But since Nintendo doesn't count that means Snoy wins.
tendies and sony ponies are both as delusional and ridiculous as eachother dont think otherwise for even a second.
Oh no doubt about it. I love shitting on them both
I don't know why I have to break this down but the only argument you people seem to be able to make is your own opinions and not any statements or evidence by the company itself. Sony themselves said Nintendo isn't competiton. It doesn't get any more plain than that and all this moron
could do was talk about Call of Duty, as if that somehow debunked the point.
>Sony themselves said Nintendo isn't competiton
Sony also says that their games are good and worth $70
You not liking them doesn't change that other people did.
>the sales
The only game in the red is Ratchet and Clank
Nintendo and MS have been making the right industry moves and positioning themselves for a future without console gaming. Nintendo with merchandising, theme parks and movie. Microsoft with PC gaming, mobile gaming and investing heavily in selling games to more platforms.
As they say, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Sony right now might be selling a lot of consoles but they do not have the right things positioned right now incase their console business goes wrong. Which might happen any time now judging by how precarious their profits are compared to their revenue.
Microsoft doesn't even report their Gamepass numbers despite how much they like to gloat and claim how much of a success it is. Sony has been investing in mobile games long before Microsoft decided to just buy the top mobile game since they couldn't compete and Sony literally makes more money off services than both Nintendo and Microsoft right now. If anyone has the better infrastructure in place for money beyond "consoles" it's Sony. Too many people are talking on things they know nothing about.
>If anyone has the better infrastructure in place for money beyond "consoles" it's Sony.
This Snoy is so asshurt.
So booty blasted.
That he just said Sony is in a better place to make money, and I quote, "beyond consoles". You should work for MS. They need your guidance to help them make more money than Snoy does.
Nintendo never call themselves a video game console company. Former Nintendo CEO Hiroshi Yamauchi insisted that Nintendo was a toy company, which is why Nintendo really wanted to buy Bandai before Bandai merged with Namco. Remember, that Hiroshi Yamauchi was not a gamer and thought RPGs were for losers who only stayed home and played video games in the dark.
>a toy company is doing better than the multi million sony
snoysisters....
the funny part is that its common sense. Inflating game development constantly is not sensible
fricking BASED. roaches out to be gassed sooner than later
>Sony games guaranteed to drop to cheap prices within a year
>Nintendo games still full price years later
Makes me think and so on
Yep
This is all so infuriating to me. Video games do not need these stupid fricking huge budgets. Think of all the fricking different games you could make with all that money. Everything with any sort of budget is almost all the same slop now, It's fricking moronic.
It's mostly due to the needless scale of the companies. The layoffs are actually a smart move. The devs don't need all that HR and consultation staff, nor do they all need to be in ridiculously expensive coastal cities where cost of living and building rental fees are astronomical. This is a solvable issue.
They are laying people off mostly based on immediate salary costs to balance accounts annually, not based on long term costs and needs of company as whole.
Most of it doesn't even go towards making the game
>Video games do not need these stupid fricking huge budgets.
This is what a $100M video game looks like. That'll be $70.
moron
Pretty much this. People complain when your graphics aren't polished (and you aren't Nintendo)
You can just... not try and make faux-realistic graphics. Why not try something more stylized? You know, like game companies used to do?
>Hi-Fi Rush is going to look just as good in 100 years
>games like GTA6 will look more and more uncanny as the years go on
there's a right choice to make, and a very wrong one, I'm sad so much of AAA gaming is obsessed with the wrong one.
Agreed. I pretty much only play stylized games like Nintendo games, Dragon Quest, Hi-Fi Rush, Binding of Isaac, Lethal Company, Hollow Knight, Ys VIII, Pizza Tower, and etc.
Forspoken is not ugly due the budget, Forspoken is ugly because it is pozzed.
it's a little bit of both. it would be much better if the graphics weren't going for realism but yeah it's mostly ugly because of woke pandering
If the gameplay was good and the writing wasn't downright repelling. The visuals wouldn't have been an issue.
The laughable visuals just amplify how shit everything else is.
imagine how absurd this scene must have been with the japanese audience, having this strange-looking person pointing aggressively in bewilderment, acting incomprehensibly to the point that they would imagine no one actually behaves like this
Majority of Square-Enix's sales come from the west. You morons obsess with japan too much that you can't even properly comprehend what a company is trying to market to.
Because making games isn't exactly the point of where the money is coming from, it's all from special interest groups and people. The industry became what it purported it wasn't decades ago.
they are even more moronic over the fact they don't reuse stuff
almost every single AAA game since the batman games on the 360, including uncharted, asscreed, god of onions, the goy of us, anal woke 2, snoyman 2, and on and on, could reasonably be done with the same engine like bethesda does, full with reusing assets because who the frick is going to notice if generic_tree_1446437138714 sees some reuse?
>because who the frick is going to notice if generic_tree_1446437138714 sees some reuse?
All it takes is for one moron to notice reused assets and powder kegs like Twitter explode into controversy. Asset flips makes charging people 70 dollars even harder to justify to the average joe.
Dark Souls 3 specifically and obviously reused environmental assets from Bloodborne, and the entire series re-uses and builds upon animations from previous games. People definitely notice, but I'd say those games are still pretty well respected.
Only the autists will b***h. Most people wouldn’t give a shit.
>Asset flips makes charging people 70 dollars even harder to justify to the average joe.
I'm no Zelda or Pokemon fan but that shit sold like hotcakes.
I'm fine with seeing generic trees as long as there's lot of them for variety. I'm sick of seeing the same 3-5 trees and bushes all over the entire world map. If they're gonna tap old assets use a ton of them; otherwise what's the point?
Because it saves money and gets the game out quicker. Plus, it shouldn’t matter if the sequel takes place in the same location as the previous game. Spidey 2 is still NYC and should’ve been way cheaper to produce.
Didn't they expand the map into Brooklyn, Queens, and Northern Manhattan?
The original map was left unchanged, I thought, other than adding a lot of various pride flags.
You do realize the Ass Creed games reuse assets, right. Brotherhood reused AC2 assets, Revelations reused AC1 assets, Rogue reused Black Flag assets reused AC3 assets. Syndicate reused Unity assets. Valhalla reused Odyssey assets reused Origins assets. Are you moronic?
He's probably referring to the ones that don't do the yearly releases. Pretty much any and everyone expect constant asset reuse from the likes of Ubisoft, Activision, and etc.
But I've mentioned pretty much every mainline title. The asset reuse in Ass Creed is off the charts when you actually play the games, you start to notice the same goddamn barrels in every game
>you start to notice the same goddamn barrels in every game
So?
So it breaks immersion when a AAA team with millions in budget can't slightly recolor a barrel so it looks even 1% different than it did five years ago. It shows a lack of care for attention to detail, a game designed by committee.
>they should do pointless busywork instead of focusing on gameplay, muh ADHD brain needs new things even if it does nothing, dammit!
You don't even like games. Stop pretending you care.
Sounds like a strawman to me
You are literally whining about graphics which don't matter. There isn't a single reason to care about what the graphics look like because they don't matter and are opinion based even if they can be considered to add points.
Meaning it only adds them in your opinion, not FACTUALLY. A valid review of a game does not use graphics as an argument unless there is something like a display issue.
Yes, if they've fricked up how it renders that's a factual issue but WHAT is rendered is not.
If it sounds like a strawman, you don't know what that is and shouldn't be using it as an argument since you are too lazy to Google shit while you are demonstrably on the internet before saying stupid shit.
Sounds like a strawman to me
>"It shows a lack of care for attention to detail"
>You don't even like games just consoom the next copypasted AAA slop
Anon were you dropped as a kid or
What are you talking about? I worked on AC Valhalla and we reused a shitload of stuff, the engine has been reused and developed since Prince of Persia
>I worked on AC Valhalla
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence anon. lets see some kind of verification.
>Sony themselves said Nintendo isn't competiton
Where did they say this? Also, for the sake of argument, lets just say its true. So what? People never lie? Companies never lie? Companies never lie to their shareholders in order to make their stock seem more appealing than it actually is? Just how fricking naive and sheltered are you? Or are you just some autistic/underage kid who doesnt understand that people in this world dont tell the truth.
>extraordinary claims
Is that really an extraordinary claim?
Bethesda has been using the same engine for decades
>Is that really an extraordinary claim?
You claiming that you worked on AC Valhalla is the claim i would like to see some verification for
I dont know whats worse, the fact that nintendo 1st party games never diminish in price or the fact that tendies allow them to do this by buying shitty over priced games at full price.
>when did they say this
In court
>Companies lie
This is beyond the point because unless you have evidence of such lies you're simply arguing for the sake of arguing now
>In court
Ok lets see it
>This is beyond the point because unless you have evidence of such lies you're simply arguing for the sake of arguing now
Ok anon I am literally in bed with you right now and we are having hot, passionate, steamy gay sex. I am the top of course, and beacuse you have such a delicious fat ass you are the bottom. Unless you have proof that I am lying you are just argueing for the sake of argueing.
Sony is making the claim, unless they have evidence that nintendo isnt actually competition there is no reason to believe them, just like there is no reason to believe me just because i claimed to be balls deep inside of your tender anus.
https://mynintendonews.com/2023/06/28/jim-ryan-claims-nintendo-isnt-a-direct-competitor-to-playstation-and-fans-arent-into-call-of-duty/
It's also in internal FTC documents but I'm not going to look through that shit.
>https://mynintendonews.com/2023/06/28/jim-ryan-claims-nintendo-isnt-a-direct-competitor-to-playstation-and-fans-arent-into-call-of-duty/
>this is your proof
You mean the court case where he was trying to prevent activision from being bought out by microsoft because sony relies on call of duty sales and he admits this? the context of him saying they are not "competition" is because nintendo players arent playing call of duty. Not that sony and nintendo are not competiting with eachother in the market, obviously they do, even if call of duty accounts for a large amount of sales for sony its not the entirety of their business model. Most people cannot afford to buy both a ps5 and a switch, they buy 1 console.
See? This is what I mean, you have no evidence for your position beyond your own stupid assumptions and you're just arguing for the sake of arguing now.
Your only evidence is words from a man desperately trying to keep his company from going under, who would literally say anything to prevent that deal from going through. You're not going to convince anyone anon
It's in internal documents by both Sony and Microsoft. This is well known by now. I don't know what you want to achieve but pointless presumptions based on nothing but your own personal opinion isn't an argument. The End.
>This is well known by now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
I've already given you a link and the only thing you could do was say it was a lie despite having no evidence of such beyond pulling the argument out of your ass. You're not not making the point you think you're making. I gave you evidence, give me evidence beyond your own personal delusion that it's false.
Silly images aren't evidence anon. Come on, I'll wait
anon you know that everyone ITT is laughing at you right?
nta, but I feel the need to comment that you sound like a friend of mine that I could give every supposedly correct response or counter argument and you still wouldn't accept it because it doesn't fit the reality you've dreamed up. Not saying the other anon is doing a very good job either with just reaction images.
>company going under
Spare us the drama, losing COD won't cause Sony or Playstation to go under.
Sony? No. Playstation? Yes.
you remember that Jim Ryan also said on court that playstation need cod to survive right?
And they still have it. Next question. As of now they're working on a way to wean off it.
>And they still have it
phil said the same thing about Bethesda games in the past mate. they definitely won't suddenly stop making the games to playstation since they'd want to get playstation players to fund their own shit but they can very easily do some small things to change some of the playerbase. they'd have to be braindead to not stop PS from getting exclusive or early content for example
>Next question
?
>As of now they're working on a way to wean off it.
?
You're never going to convince anyone with eyes that sony and Nintendo are not competing. You fricking autist.
I'm not gonna dox myself but here's some stuff we got for the release.
Also something from fenyx rising because I worked there for a time as well.
put a timestamp next to it that says Ganker is for Gankerirgins and will believe you 100% and defer to you video game developer sama
MY FUARKING HERO
you win... i bow to you... so what was it like to work on ass creed?
Cool but it was horrible for my impostor syndrome
by imposter syndrome do you mean that you felt like you were underqualified for the job and werent meant to be there? If I have learned anything in the last decade anon its probably that you were probably one of the most talented people. The people who dont belong generally are too fricking stupid and oblivious to ever even consider the fact that they are a blight on whatever it is they are a part of.
>by imposter syndrome do you mean that you felt like you were underqualified for the job and werent meant to be there?
Yeah, I was surrounded by smart people
Im sure you learned a lot anon, do you know french? It was required to work in quebec right?
Surprisingly enough it wasn't needed to start working there, just English. We did start having classes at the studio as soon as we started though. Sadly shit happened so my French is fricking terrible. I left the country anyway so whatever.
NOOOOOO
MEIRA BALLS
What is that weird fish you drew
If you make $100k in California you are still considered poor. Let that sink in.
$300 millions in California don't have the same worth as if you lived in Alabama. These conditions are created by moronic progressive policies.
You don't want to know how much they spent on just cutscenes. I couldn't believe it.
Yep. One 100 million dollar game that flopped and destroyed its studio in the process, could have easily funded 6 smaller, actual fricking fun games with some sort of innovation in them.
It’s actually insane how companies do not realize
>make smaller games
>take half the time as a usual AAA game
>gamers buy it
>BIG PROFIT
It’s that easy
Yeah, all those small games Square Enix made the last 2 years have made major bank..... Oh wait.
Octopath Traveler 2 sold over a million and made profit
Forspoken did not
Octopath wasn't the only low budget game SE has made recently and Octipath 2 had disappointing sales compared to the first game despite releasing on more platforms.
Suckerpunch is a relatively smaller team compared to most AAA companies, which is why their budget only hit 60 million. Sony needs to look at fostering talent rather than spending hundreds of millions thinking it will net quality. Smaller team = tigher community = smaller budget = soul.
everyone wants to be the marvel mcu. sony quite literally wants to be marvel with properties like spiderman and wolverine.
Sure, but Sony was already establishing a pedigree for prestige before Spidey entered their catalogue. And didn't the leaks reveal that Ghost also had the highest profitability? They have a gold standard for what their dev teams can be, and they should try to replicate it. Insolnjac is still good but needs to be downsized. Naughty Dog was mercilessly killed by Neil.
sony and microsoft have been in a dick waving contest since the early 2000's, trying to offer games so high quality it makes the others look like shit in comparison. it's why nintendo fricked off to do their own thing after the gamecube when they saw what was happening.
longer dev times are more than doubling costs from the previous gen. ai might actually "solve" this issue, but who knows what the cost will be for gamers.
>Naughty Dog was mercilessly killed by Neil.
Insomniac is being killed by the same type of people. They just cannot help themselves make a good product and have to inject their propaganda into everything.
>Pedigree
>Prestige
>gold standard
Brainwashed cultist.
Please frick off, your obsession with hating Sony is cult like in itself.
What talent? All american talent has been replaced by pajeets and diversity hires
>What talent?
Suckerpunch talent. I live in Seattle and have actually talked to some of the devs, they're nice people. Apparently Sony has offered to expand their team size to increase how quickly they churn out games but SP leadership literally said they prefer the smaller, closer knit team and declined.
>ai might actually "solve" this issue
AI won't solve anything is not already been solved, it will be used as a crutch by increasingly useless people.
>The high cost of games
Stop hiring massive teams of unmotivated vindictive buttholes instead of smaller teams of people who love video games and the core demographic of straight white men.
But he is right, what about the Japanese?
You might actually be moronic for taking the obvious bait. The moment these people see something vaguely political, regardless of how believable it is they latch like piranhas.
I miss the time before the gullible cult of poltardation and we just talked videogames.
blame women
>Ganker
>A pretty boy
LOL it's one of the most greasy boards.
the /misc/ boogy man really mind broke these troons. kek. You moron understand that you're just as bad as the average pol-tard you claim to hate, right?
The majority of gamers are white men. That's just a fact. A normal person on the street thinks "I am not racist" but then doesn't buy a game with a Black person protagonist because people are inherently racist.
And is this /misc/ is this room with us right now?
What an odd thing to say
yet horror movies can be made with like 1-3 million dollars and make a massive profit.. new godzilla cost 10 million or less. this industry is not sustainable.
It's long rumored that Hollywood's insane budgets are a tax evasion / money laundering scheme, claim you spent a lot more than you actually did or something.
You can do both at the same time, actually. Inflate expenses to dodge taxes while inflating receipts to launder money. This is needlessly complicated, however, and you probably shouldn't do it.
The entire rest of the Sony corporate umbrella is a massive millstone around SCE's neck. They're in the polar opposite situation of Microsoft. XBox doesn't make money, but every other division of Microsoft does. MS' entire strat for XBox is just to keep computer gaming and all its businesses from falling back into the clutches of the Japanese. If they were to duck out, and Sony were to yank the rope on California, we'd be back in 1992 again. There'd be some good things to say about that, but there'd also be a lot of bad things.
It has to be...
It's to both do that and boost gdp artificially
>They will keep raising games and ps plus price until their whole business crashes.
i fail to see the problem
Tomb Raider Remaster will save them 🙂
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TR has nothing to do with sony
Sony is game publisher and not a group of game studios. First party games are just ads.
>twitter screenshot thread
> reddicat post
>Cats are REDDIT
Nice try newfriend
You love to see it.
>games cost too much to make
stop making them then.
So they layoff developers and close studios.
What’s so catastrophic? Bit dramatic don’t you think
Honest question, why is Sony so dominant.
Do you see any good game from valve? They are just successful publishers.
Xbox fricked up with Xbone and never recovered.
Nintendo dropped home platforms after Wii U somehow flopped even harder than Xbone.
They don't consider PC as a competition.
I honestly think that's it, the competition is so moronic that they win by default.
Sega/Microsoft were/are hilariously incompetent. Nintendo is doing better than Sony
dominant at what? best selling sony game moved as many copies as mario party lmao
>dominant
>lost cawadoody to microsoft
yes dominant
Simply by being available.
Love them or hate them, they are one of the most competent companies in the world when it comes to logistics and distribution.
Playstation and its games is supported and sold LITERALLY everywhere in the world officially at msrp and with warranty.
they're not even competent with distribution. it was years before I even saw a ps5 on a store shelf. it wasn't because they were being sold out, it was because Sony is moronic as frick and refuses to ship consoles. fake hype. Playstation will die in our lifetimes if they keep their stupid shit up
If you didn’t get a PS5 by now you’re probably not interested, and if you did you probably feel burnt by Sony’s lack of support for the console.
That has nothing to do with it, you idiot.
I'm talking about availability as in official support. Just go look at the PS Store supported countries list and compare it to Nintendo and MS.
>it was years before I even saw a ps5 on a store shelf. it wasn't because they were being sold out, it was because Sony is moronic as frick and refuses to ship consoles.
What kind of nonsense is this? Did you also somehow miss the fact Microsoft couldn't get SeX systems on shelves either? Here's a hint, it has to do with Covid and also has to do with an issue multiple industries were (and still are) having issues with.
https://www.automoblog.net/will-chip-shortage-end-in-2023/
Technically gen 9 didn't even start until earlier this year because that's when both Microsoft and Sony started getting more chips to make their systems with and when devs finally started only releasing current gen games rather than cross-gen regularly. The SeS was on shelves constantly because it used lower quality chips that were more readily available.
eurotrash
Remember this? https://youtu.be/kWSIFh8ICaA
The usually unintrested consumer was hit over the head enough by the media and memes online that they bothered to pay attention for once. They were made to believe it was the most pro-consumer and important issue ever (Ignore that they added paid online at the same time).You'd have to somehow get those same apathetic consumers to somehow care again if you want them to care again.
It has everything worth owning and serviceable alternatives for not's there.
You like Zelda, Genshin Impact is better
You like Forza, Gran Turismo is better
You like Souls garbage, Bloodborne is better
You like Music games, Parapa the Rapper is better
The list goes on and on, more variety, more quality.
You like Sports games. You're not buying a PC or Nintendo Switch
Fighting games, not on Switch.
You like old arcade games or SHUMPS, they're not on xbox
*Also available on PC
gaming with keyboard is gay.
>snoys being tech illiterate
>spend $2000 to get the exact same experience if not sometimes an even worse experience than what you can get with $500
There's a reason PC still isn't the biggest gaming market despite all it's positives.
>Snoy vey you actually need a 6 gorrillion dollar pc to beat a PS5
I love how the numbers snoys use for coping just keep going up
Maybe that's because the games that release keep getting more obnoxiously intensive on hardware. You low IQ moron. Also it's more a question of the effort put into PC ports than the game itself. So you're a double moron. I've literally got a $2000 PC and I STILL buy games on PS5 cause that's just going to be the better experience with how little a shit devs give about PC ports.
>Snoy vey stop being an anti-snoymite chud how dare you deny the 6 gorillion dollar PC
It's always the ones bragging the most about "muh hardware" that actually understand it the least. Peak irony.
>how dare you commit a heckin anti-snoymitism
Why are you using a bundled PS5 when the system normally sells for $500? In addition, what about the other components of a PC?
PC-fats are so pathetic that it circles back to it being funny.
Frick Snoy btw. I just hate you guys more.
>In addition, what about the other components of a PC?
moron.
Way to prove that frog posters are useless, homosexual
Thank you, good job proving that console cucks are tech-illiterate morons.
So disingenuous PC-gay, gotcha.
So what PC components are missing in the picture, console cuck?
>you can run games using ONLY a gpu
lol
lmao
>you can run games using ONLY a gpu
Thanks for proving that you are in fact a tech-illiterate moron. That's a complete PC, not just a GPU:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/gaming-pc-build-you-need-beat-ps5/
>iToddler filename
I've spent over $2000 on my pc. It's not hard to do.
>You like Zelda, Genshin Impact is better
I don’t even need to read the rest to know you are either a chink chill or a braindead gachaBlack person, either way opinion discarded
>You like Zelda, Genshin Impact is better
Wut.
Those two aren't even remotely comparable. And I say this as someone who plays Genshin.
You're delusional. Didn't read the rest.
Breath of The Wild and Tears of The Kingdom will like to have a word with you.
>Chink shit that china fricked recently
>People talk more about forza than GT
>BB only sold 7mil, ER already destroyed that only counting PC sales.
>Literal dead IP
You want variety you buy a PC, moronic homosexual.
>GT better than Forza after GT7
>'Parappa the Rapper is better than music games'
>Parappa hasn't had a new game in 22 fricking years
you sure do love cherry-picking your shit, don't you, also, Gitaroo Man was way better than Parappa, frick you.
Because for all their flaws Xbox is somehow more incompetent.
Xbox isn't willing to shell timed exclusivity money that Sony does, plus Sony first-party output is simply higher quality than Xbox (even if they're mostly generic moviegames).
PC filters too many people by default.
Nintendo is just bing bing wahoo and (some) JRPG machine. Doesn't appeal to the average Western demographic.
Nintendo kneecapped themselves with n64/gamecube, then xbox seppuku'd with xbone. Sony has just avoided doing anything insanely egregiously moronic most of the time
>ignores the BILLIONS lost with the PS3
>ignored the Nintendomination of the Wii and Switch over Snoy's hardware
lol
lmao
they pretend nintendo somehow doesn't compete with them so they can claim they win even when they get outsold 3 to 1
no one has actually given you the right answer, except maybe that logistics guy, partly. sony is the company of the third world. even if no white person ever bought another sony game they would still dominate india and africa
Most gamers prefer home consoles over pcs, and xbox shot itself in the foot so sony doesn't really have any competition. Nintendo is obviously beating their asses with the switch, but I can't imagine that most people have a switch as a main console other than children, so many switch platers are also going to have a pc, a ps5, or an xbox. With all the acquisitions xbox made they might be able to overtake sony in the next generation if they remember to make games with those companies.
The Wii U and Don Mattrick Xbox One disaster happened at almost the exact same time. Sony coasted to victory and has been coasting until now, but they're losing steam. In a world where Xbox didn't have a moron sabotage their brand and Nintendo came out with the Wii 2 instead of Wii U, PS4 would've probably sold under 100m and would've had a much tougher time competing.
They have good PR, the most successful playstations are numbered from 1 to 5 with no gimmick name attached to them (Look at Wii U on to frick up a name), Media Bias, Community distain for Microsoft, Nintendo is for kids mindset, PC is too hard to get into mindset, only really having one frick up that still ended being 2nd place (PS3), Xbone DRM, and they're blue.
The Moment they call the next Playstation anything but a number, they're dead
Absolutely dead.
>The Moment they call the next Playstation anything but a number, they're dead
100 percent. PlayStation is a household name, and it’s a status thing to have the newest one for normies.
>The Moment they call the next Playstation anything but a number, they're dead
This, Xbox could learn from them on this. Heck, the entirety of Microsoft could learn from this.
they bought the media and press in late 90s early 2000s, but when they stopped being good in 2006, they kept buying journalists.
In europe? nintendo never really gave a shit about us and the n64 was literally sold as a children toy.
Playstation cared about the EU, it had amazing marketing, was easily modchipped and everyone used to buy bootleg cds. Playstation quickly became symbolic with videogames, and the ps2 with GTA games and fifashit cemented it as the "VIDEO GAME", much as you americans called video games "Nintendo" back in the early 90's.
So even today the average yurop normalgay just buys the "video game station" to play their fifaslop just like back in the day.
they used to support good games
there's a one generation lag but they'll be completely fricked next gen
They became "a thing" with PS2 and that's the power of brand momentum, despite not doing anything since then.
>>They became "a thing" with PS2 and that's the power of brand momentum, despite not doing anything since then.
They lost that momentum with Ps3, but since MS are morons, they managed to get it all back and then some, with PS4.
Dominant on losing streaks
Nintendo is in their own world and is considered their own thing. They're not going for the same power/graphical fidelity Microsoft or Sony are. Even internally both Microsoft and Sony see it this way which is why Sony brought it up at the Activision lawsuit. If you own something from Nintendo you're very likely gonna own something else in tandem with it because it's simply got a different focus and different stuff along with being, you know, Nintendo.
PC isn't even remotely in the running. It's for enthusiasts and people who play for a few hours at net cafes, not for the general public. No one who isn't an enthusiast is going to seriously play on PC when they have other options. The people who even try to pass the PC off as viable are delusional and have absolutely no idea how normal people think of it or act around it. The PC gaming section in a Best Buy where they see $1400-1700 PCs is what the average Joe is going to see and turn around immediately before he even starts, or he's gonna buy a $400 Chromebook or tower and wonder why nothing runs well and write it off.
People are starting to get more tech literate about PCs so we're starting to see more adoption nowadays, but still, it's not a viable platform for the general public.
Microsoft shot themselves in the foot with the Xbone and they haven't recovered. Exclusives all keep flopping or showing they're worse than their predecessors with Forza essentially being the only thing people care about, we barely know anything about anything they're working on, they're plagued by mismanagement, etc. Game Pass gets some people but that itself has also caused devs issues considering it lowers their sales significantly as stated by Phil in the deposition.
Sony brought themselves back at the end of gen 7, dominated gen 8, regularly have stuff people want like Spidey, Ghost of Sushi, The Last of Us, etc, are (somewhat) regularly making new IPs, have the biggest userbase, and like Phil said, digital libraries.
>Microsoft shot themselves in the foot with the Xbone and they haven't recovered. Exclusives all keep flopping
Black person, they told like 4 of the top 10 best selling games of the year. This is not what flopping games look like.
Wonder of wonders they bought the publishers while they were already in the middle of making those games
Plus, money they'll be making from WoW whales and Candy Crush players.
Starfield is literally the only thing they sold this year that they actually funded and developed and they're not even giving people concrete numbers on that outside of "Players" so we don't even know if that's sold numbers or Game Pass + copies sold. Call of Duties and Diablo do not even remotely count because they didn't even own Activision until what, a month ago, and none of those games were overseen by them. That's just being disingenuous for the sake of it. Bethesda was at least owned by them for several years now.
Did you also forget Redfall released to a complete flop and Minecraft Legends seems to have peaked right at the start with 3 million sales but then immediately died off due to poor reviews and reception? Even Grounded released to absolutely no fanfare. Hi-Fi Rush is the big game for them this year because it came out of nowhere and absolutely deserved the praise it got.
The fact that starfield is in the top 10 best selling games of the year (real sales) in an especially stacked year meant that it sold insane numbers no matter how much people want to say it's not doing well.
Starfield has only just recently gone past 10+ million players. For it to have the ranking it does makes no sense and Starfield's disc isn't even playable.
3 non arguments in a row
gj burning your rep utterly
I like how you can't disprove anything in that post and just call it a non argument to escape actually having to support your position.
I never said it's not doing well, I said we have no idea how well it's doing because of Microsoft obfuscating things. It also hasn't had a good reception since it released.
Like I said, what they have been releasing overall has either been flopping or being worse than their predecessors. Starfield is the obvious exception here outside of Hi-Fi Rush. It took something like three years for Sea of Thieves to even get out of its hole, Halo Infinite is only just starting to finally claw itself out of its own hole and who knows if that will even last, Gears is seemingly dead in the water, and they're in desperate need for new IPs that get people in the door. They've at least got a plan for several years of games but so far their track record has been horrendously bad.
Reminder that Microsoft cooks their books all the time. Like including minecraft players in their Gamepass numbers
You're not fooling anyone, Eric.
nostalgia and reputation
same reason why nike sells and apple sells
They're not. Losing call of duty is literally going to be a complete disaster for them so they have to spend billions on marvel slop to try build a normies/soi audience.
Leaked internal documents have called 2027 the "call of duty threat" that will cost them tens of millions in hardware and online subscriptions sales.
They built a cult following in the early 2000's and it's just always kinda been that way since.
cool, so more capeshit, right? that's what I bought the PlayStation for apparently; wannabe marveldisneyshit. good job on your brand restructuring you backstabbing bastards.
The only reason Snoy games cost to much because of muh hyper realistic graphics and 100hr cutscene
A console thrives on its exclusives
PS5 has basically none, maybe demons souls remake
Nintendies will live eternal because of their exclusives
And possibly also because despite being gimmick hardware it doesnt seem very hard to develop for it.
PS5 is the only console with ANY exclusives.
>PS5 has basically none
Thats literally xbox and why its dying. the frick are you talking about.
thanks bidenomics
>Company spends over 100 million dollars on a shitty movie game
>I pirate it for free
>Killed themselves so badly they are going third party
Press S
False
It's crazy how despite "winning" they're dying because they aren't winning hard enough.
Rich people say they lost money when they don't make as much profit as expected.
I wouldn't mind paying $80 for a game or even $90. I'm not poor like everyone here is for some reason, so if they decide maybe they need to up the price a little bit to compensate for how much it costs to make actual AAA titles today, I don't see the problem. Plus everyone seems to forget that, when adjusted for inflation, video games are cheaper than they've ever been, and paying $80 or even $100 in some cases is, at best, just price correction.
paying $100 would be fine if there all the DLC was free AND if the game's were actually as good as their older entries. none of them so far have lived up to the price tag.
>if the game's were actually as good as their older entries
This is dangerously subjective. You may not feel this way, but there are a lot of people (likely the majority) who prefer the way modern games are today in comparison to what they were back then. Today, we have much more immersive experiences with actual stories, actually good animations and mocap, graphics we never thought possible before, character developments, lore and writing that is more than just "go save the princess and beat the giant lizard thing". "Actual" actors and actresses are now slowly making their way into video games as VAs. All of this is expected in games now and why shouldn't it be? Not to mention now, modern players have higher expectations and less forgiveness over stuff like rampant, exploitable bugs, bad optimization in games, shitty voice acting, stories not making any sense, characters with no depth, production values about as high as a a "studio" that just made games in the basement, and other things older games could get away with. This isn't the 90s or 2000s (up to even the early 2010s) anymore where nobody really had standards and games weren't taken seriously as a medium.
>This isn't the 90s or 2000s (up to even the early 2010s) anymore where nobody really had standards and games weren't taken seriously as a medium.
and thats a good thing!
Good bait.
>Today, we have much more immersive experiences with actual stories, actually good animations and mocap, graphics we never thought possible before, character developments, lore and writing that is more than just "go save the princess and beat the giant lizard thing". "Actual" actors and actresses are now slowly making their way into video games as VAs
These are all objectively bad aspects of video game design.
go watch a movie homie
>paying $100 would be fine if there all the DLC was free
That's more or less what people are paying RIGHT NOW for complete games. So many games are coming with expansion passes where you pay $30 and get content in a year after they finish the game. It's so dumb, I'd rather pay $100 if they released the finished game all at once instead but all that would happen is that the base game would be $100 and the expansion passes would be $50.
Feels so nice playing things two to three years post-release. It's like everyone else is beta-testing just for me.
I'd pay that much for a game that had substantial leaps in tech and design over PS2 era games, but that isn't the case.
you don't see the problem because you're a moron. they keep taking less content out of the games while the rack up the price, and sell it to you later for the same price. they've literally got you buying the same game twice.
name five sony games worth $60 let alone $90
God of War Ragnarok
Horizon Forbidden West (and Zero Dawn)
The Last of Us Part 2
Spiderman 2 (given the map and excellent use of modern technology to prevent constant loading screens)
Ghost of Tsushima
All goyslop. You'd have to pay ME to play that shit.
>list 5 games
>NO! NOT THAT! GOYSLOOOOP
Shit the frick down.
Not that anon, but he asked for 5 games worth $60 so you kinda fell into his trap by even replying since obviously taste is subjective and he doesnt like movie games and you listed a bunch of cinematic movie games. I actually really love ghost of tsushima, I would say that game alone is worth more than all the others combined, but the main problem is that sony really only makes 1 kind of game now. Its extremely homogenized, and if you dont like that kind of game then theres no reason to ever look forward to anything sony is doing. The last non movie 1st party game they funded was what... bloodborne in 2015?
The Last Guardian. But the studio responsible for coordinating with From on Bloodborne and making The Last Guardian is now gone.
imho no sony 1st party games are worth even $40
Bloodborne
The Last Guardian
Returnal
Ghost of Tsushima
Death Stranding
>The Last Guardian
80 or 90, and you call others poor. Lmao.
I would pay 200-300. But all characters have to be animals. In every game.
>I wouldn't mind getting fricked in my ass a little harder
>I'm ACKSHUALLY not poor teehee!
good little consoomcattle like you need to get milked harder for all your worth.
cringe
>when adjusted for inflation
The natural tendency of prices is to deflate over time as ease of production, ease of distribution, and increase of specialization brings down the costs associated with creating and selling the product. If anything games should be much cheaper and the 60 dollar price tag for games is just an arbitrary fixation. Plane tickets and cars didnt go from luxury to super mega luxury, they became more affordable as time went on
That applies to things like hardware, not a software based industry like videogames. Luxury goods also have a different economic model
Ragnarok is better than ANYTHING shitendo has ever put out
kys eric
>Press R1 to awesome
>Slow as frick
>Constant cutscenes and taking control away
How the frick was this game ever considered good? It looks like a slow western parody of a Platinum game.
Post from a simple minded fool who has never played the game and parroted some nonsense he read on this shit site and twitter.
the budget consideration starts with marketing costs. having a frick off huge marketing budget will ensure your game sells several million pretty much every time, unless it's a complete technical disaster and even that won't even matter sometimes. in order to justify the marketing budget, and make the game presentable to NPCs (target audience), the assets need to look as photo realistic as possible, because npcs have no sense of aesthetic. as we have seen with the insomniac leak, animation and modeling eat up the majority of the budget on these games.
>the budget consideration starts with marketing costs.
No it doesn't, you stupid frick.
Most of the budget/cost is just the cost of running the studio. Running a studio in a first world country with hundreds of employees costs a lot.
And when you don't have a gaas game to generate income for the studio, you are basically just throwing money for years without any return until they release a game.
Years ago the running figure was...what, $7500/person/month? It's got to be higher now. If we take indexes of general inflation (it's a very poor proxy, admittedly, using CPI goods-basket calculations to extrapolate to commercial expenditures, but it's what we have) it's probably closer to $10,000 now. All that said, most AAA releases are 50% dev, at most. It's been that way since the 90s - Less than 1/3 of Final Fantasy VII's budget was actually making the game, which itself ran massively over budget due to having to restart (and retool) development for the PSX, abandoning large amounts of assets and progress on the original version, having to print 3 discs instead of the intended 2, and so on. $45 million dollars. That's what Squaresoft paid in 1997 dollars to make Final Fantasy VII. They spent $100 million marketing it. In a way I'd say FFVII is patient zero of a number of diseases afflicting games now.
They kinda don't have to. The post in question is so completely, cartoonishly ignorant that it almost doesn't deserve a direct refutation.
Too bad the leaks revealed that the marketing costs are actually miniscule compared to making the game.
have they tried like, spending less making games?
GoW gameplay looks so fricking ass I probably genuinely got a better experience than its players by watching a couple cutscenes on youtube
yea cool story now do something about it, fight this system or fricking have a nice day
Lead by example schizo kun
If the aliens really controlled us, they wouldn't let you post that image
>alien control
>antichrist
This is ironic shitposting, right? I can never tell with nu-/v/.
Looks like an image made in earnest by a conspiratorial christgay, specifically the Q kind
Why is it so hard to admit that the world is being run by ruthless capitslists and narcissistic sociopaths. Drop the fricking aliens, israeli conspiracies and the lizardmen. Grow the frick up.
>israeli conspiracies
Out of pure spitefulness I'm glad these "capitalists" are winning. Stupid fricking golem.
>redditdog
golem get ye gone
The post above me is bait.
Since you can't refute anything in it, it's "bait". Got it.
someone who thinks standards only ever linearly increase over time probably wouldn't accept a refutation even if it was worth writing one for something so fundamentally off the mark
This was inevitably going to happen after film started shooting itself in the foot repeatedly with streaming services, the box office no longer works because "just wait for it to show up on [insert platform here]" and people will instead seek entertainment through other media such as video games.
WHO'S WITH ME
I don't get why they do this.
Do their movie games even have higher ROI than the likes of Sekiro or Nioh?
There's a pretty easy way out, but they don't like that option. All they need to do is make more anime games with sexy women in it, nobody wants those creatures from TLoU2.
The problem there is that a western company like Sony cares more about appeasing shareholders and hedge funds to keep receiving their money than doing things that allow them to receive money from the consumer.
Anime fanservice games are a Kryptonite to the average investor because it taints their reputation among OTHER investors, causing a chain reaction of "because Stock Holder Joe has Stocks in a company that produced a fanservice game, this creates a chain reaction that essentially means Larry Fink is in support of such things."
We literally have evidence the weeb games sold like shit and morons STILL insist their absence hurts Sony. Absolutely hilarious.
We also have evidence that sony's games hurt sony because they don't sell enough. Personally that was my favorite part of the leaks.
And we have evidence you're a moron who doesn't know where Sony's primary revenue source comes from which isn't game sales but subscriptions and services. Make an attempt to learn what you're talking about if you don't want to look stupid next time.
>Snoy absolutely SNEETHING
Ya love to see it.
And now they are directly funding their main competitors via those same microtransactions. And what's even better
>those MICRO(soft)transactions make more money for MS than they do for Snoy
Ya love to see it
>Be proven wrong
>backpeddle into claiming the person who proved you wrong is seething.
Letting a company live in your head rent free isn't healthy anon. Seek help.
It's a cathartic feeling seeing Sony continuously eat shit for their moronation. It's gonna be so great to see their GaaS plans continue to fail and their "exclusives" no longer make even because they can't budget for shit or think bigger budget means better.
>eat shit
Selling more than the competition to the point where even a discounted Xbox can't even outsell the Playstation Portal accessory?
>GAAS fails
Fate Grand Order, I'm sure you heard of it. Gran Turismo 7 is GAAS as well and is a success. Letting a company live in your head rent free isn't healthy.
>Sony's game sales hurt Sony
Jim Ryan already said their first party games are just vanity projects in court testimony. They're not even 20% of revenue. They're funded by profits form other sections, not something you do if it's your primary money maker.
anime shit doesn't appeal to everyone, especially games. not everyone is going to try out a game just because it has anime women in bikinis, some people will think it's weird and embarassing and avoid it like the plague
>100mil$ is AA
Absolutely insane. Mass Effect 3 took like 40 million to make. Witcher 3 was 40-45 million. That's without marketing. Industry crash soon.
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I mean, is a $100m budget so unthinkable for what games look like now? Just think about people costs: let's say a game needs 3 years to make. For every 8 devs you need 1 non direct dev staff (HR, IT, whatever the frick, this is a gross oversimplification since that ratio gets worse the bigger a company gets). Being generous, a game dev's burden will average $140k. Marketing is stupid, that's like $40m by itself.
So you're left with $60m / 3 years / $140k a head, with overhead of 1 to 8. That's 127 devs to make your game in 3 years. And that's not counting for any non-staff cost counts, such as infrastructure, licensing, outsourced bullshit, paying VA for the stupid amount of lines games have now. 3 years is also not a huge dev cycle by today's terms.
Essentially, to curtail that budget, games need to cut down somewhere, because the way they do things now, those budgets absolutely make sense. You can't just say 'yeah I could make Spiderman for a tenth that.'
It's funny how games have barely evolved when it comes to AI, interactivity, etc.
The focus is entirely on animation, cinematics, diversity hires and graphics suffering from diminishing returns. Sony makes bland movie games with no depth, it's insane that even 100 million dollars aren't enough to produce such slop nowadays.
>The focus is entirely on animation, cinematics, diversity hires and graphics
Because that's what the unwashed masses and investors like to see ,personally I stopped caring about graphics by the PS3 era ,graphics looked decent enough while still being underpowered enough to force devs to try and make a memorable art direction ,meanwhile now everything has such high fidelity graphics that it just looks generic with basically no art style to speak of or even to differentiate itself from the rest of the slop.
The only solution is not to buy this shit. Just stop. Go backwards. Enjoy retro games that were actual games.
3D gaming was a mistake, back in the 2D days you could have three nerd programmers in some tiny office make certified kino.
The days before fancy meme titles such as leadgame designers and producer etc
PS1 and N64 era 3d games had small budgets apart from Final Fantasy.
Is it true they are in panic about gay pass?
"Catastrophic"?
Then stop spending so much making your game. No one is asking you to launder israeli criminal cartel money by the hundreds of millions.
It costs very little to make a video game. End of story
Gaming peaked with 10-20 million dollar 5 to 20 hour linear games on PS2.
I'm not kidding and with no caveats I am 100% serious.
I'm sure it'll cost more now, with needing everything to look presentable in 4k, but they could definitely scale back the bullshit and make games better and cheaper.
>gaming peaked with PS2
>posts movie game solid 3 by hideo failed hollywood director kojima
This shit was start of end along with homoerotic fantasy 7. Real funny how kojima decided to end metal gear at 5 and dropped a gameplay heavy game with cutsceneshit taking a backseat and movie solid gear autists lost their shit.
most overrated game in game history
This. I miss the days of tight 5 to 20 hour linear games that were to the point and had good story and gameplay and not the bloat filled dogshit we have now. Games have gotten too big for their own good.
How the frick is shit so expensive to make. We should just go low poly again.
You mean 2D. 3D is imagination killing cancer and low poly is the worst 3D possible because it looks shittier than full 3D does but still has all the gameplay ruining aspects of 3D.
Zoomers hate 2D games though
Zoomers played GBA and DS, dude.
Being born in the years of release isnt the same as growing up playing it
6+ is old enough to be playing games. Though I would definitely say the DS is likely many zoomers first brand new one, they could've easily had a hand me down GBA.
Sounds good.
Biggest Mistake Nintendo ever made was working with this shitty movie company and giving them the idea they could go it alone.
Wait until a few years from now when analysts look over the numbers and realize that raising the base prices of vidya to $70 actually killed sales numbers lmao.
It didn't, and won't. It pushed the sales out further, this is why games also release in an unfinished state. By the time the game "really" launches (goty/complete edition) they can re-charge full price to any hesitant buyers, and get their money back. The initial wave of sales on release is EXPECTED to be lacking, which is why most companies opt for the new model of season passes, battle passes, microtransactions. It's what actually makes them money.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Most AAA games make 70% of their money within the first month.
>Move development teams from California to frickin Mississippi or something
>Development costs instantly reduced to a third of their current levels
WOAH
but how will they take in the hip atmosphere of San Francisco if they move to where the poors live???
They can play GTAV or something
>where the poors live
I'm sure they got enough of that in SF already.
The homeless and people stealing 949.99 dollars worth of stuff aren't poor?
Best game I played this year was armored core VI and that had the budget of a ham sandwich, relatively speaking. I mean really, did anything come out with as much kino as this game this year?
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>I won't miss
>massive hit
I can't think of a single moment in any game with as much payoff. I'm tired of expensive games polishing weird graphics.
>insomniac paid for X-Men exclusivity
>MCU is down the shitter
Ahahahahahaha
>could make 10 bloodbornes but rather shovel money into the gaas furnace
loving every laugh
>a dozen people used to be considered a large team
>a $100 million game is now considered a medium-sized team
All of my favorite games of the past few years have been indie games because of this. When your budget is small, you dont need to worry about dumbing anything down to appeal to a wider audience.
*raises hand*
So ?
im glad i buy games years later with a price drop or used, if even then.
They can spend 500million marketing goyslop without blinking. Paying "influencers" to tell zoomers to buy the game. Don't forget the 200ft tall posters they put on the side of skyscrapers.
I miss when games were made by nerds in small indie teams.
lol are people STILL parroting this horseshit after the insomniac leak showed that marketing was only 10% of the budget?
Microsoft is the one that actually pays influencers, that's why the majority of social media twats shill for xbox. Remember the big hubub when Microsoft started demanding the return of the freebies they initially gave away to "influencers"? Oh and who can forget that hilarious time they paid Porygon to claim the Xbox One was the best console of its generation
and you homosexuals will keep giving them money regardless. 🙂
The constant chase for the next best iteration of "MUH GRAPHICS!" has been a disaster for the entire industry.
First impressions sell, that's the problem. companies are exploiting peoples impulses
Bring it down!
Bring it down!
Bring it down!
This isn't surprising. Sony's been like this for about 15 years now. The confirmation is nice but it's been reasonably guessable for years now.
This is what happens when uncreative corporate finance tards take over. They think more money in equals more money out as if making games is like making steel.
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>the Colony Wars series will never be re-released with QOL improvements to fix the jank
Death to sony, in Minecraft Java edition.
>Sony should rerelease games that didn't sell well
They gave Medieval a second chance it didn't end well.
>game not sell good, therefore it bad
Whether the game is good or bad is immaterial moron. The question is is it profitable? And the answer was no.
Games don't need to cost $300mil.
However, Developers and publishers have reached the point of "throw more money in, more money come out" despite the fact they could probably make a game for far less and rake in the same or more.
>False, playstation 5 is the fastest selling console of all time and is on track to sell 160 million or more lifetime
It's funny how advancements in technology hasn't made producing entertainment any cheaper. This is a medium problem where israelite investors keep demanding photorealism using the most expensive options available to them.
This is why PlayStarton is moving back to Japan and will become reserved on mobile gacha games.
The Capcom leaks from a while back included game budgets right? How much did RE8 cost?
I wish sony would go back to making smaller games like loco roco, Patapon, Little big planet, gravity rush, ape escape, Ico, journey etc. Not every game needs to be a big budget movie game... why the fun is gone...
On the one hand, it seems insane, because if you take all the extremely successful modern games, you'll see a mountain of indie games with pretty ridiculous graphics (Minecraft, for example).
But on the other hand, Sony's tactic makes sense. Making lower budget games is always risky, it's like a big lottery, even good and fun games can disappear in the middle of a lot of other competitors. Now a game with 200 million in marketing and with a famous brand behind it will sell, no matter if it's a complete piece of censored shit, with horrible gameplay, full of strange propaganda and agendas, and all the other garbage that is common in AAA games.
Spiderman 2 only has a 30 million marketing cost, the most expensive part is making the actual game.
i hope so
they deserve to go down
>Sony is dying and going third party
Best Christmas present ever. Based hackers.
This is what happens when you value people who "solve" leetcode problems instead of actually having innovative coding ideas,
what does that even mean
>300 million budget
>1000+ people "working" on it
>needs to sell 7+ million before it breaks even
Some might believe this kind of business model simply isn't sustainable.
Since this thread is full of morons I'll just put this out there
1,Sony does not make their money off their first party games. They make the majority of their money from services and subscriptions. Their games are largely vanity projects funded by profits from other sections. Anyone claiming they're hurting themselves with their budgets is a moron who doesn't know they're talking about.
2.Sony has never been centered around their first party games. Their first party catalogue was almost non existent until the PS3 of all things. Their business model has always centered around third party games.
3.Making a bunch of small games has done absolutely nothing for them. They all sold like shit which is why the studios who made them were either shut down or restuctured.
Seeing as how Ganker is moronic, no one will read this.
In reality though, Sony needs their studios to do well for them to exist. The fact that Insomniac's Spider-man 2 isnt doing as well as they hoped resulted in them having to fire 75 people this christmas. Once your games start flopping, your studio will die and everyone will be fired. This is why every studio owned by Sony is desperate to make a game that sells blockbusters.
>in reality
In reality Sony's game sales aren't where the majority of their profit margin is, neither do their first party games make the majority of their game sales revenue. Sony can quite frankly go back to their PS1/PS2 model of just having third party studios making exclusive games for them and carry on just fine.
>Sony can quite frankly go back to their PS1/PS2 model of just having third party studios making exclusive games for them and carry on just fine.
They can't, because a majority of the people who were with them on the PS3 and PS4 have jumped ship to the Switch. They have the big boys with them releasing games from time to time, but they usually opt to release a lot of their smaller and experimental games on the Switch now rather than on the Playstation, especially with the PS5. The Japanese devs also have had a chip on their shoulder ever since Sony did that reform several years back. Senran Kagura as a series was pretty much forced off of Playstation just to survive because of it and it killed any hope to ever see Se7en just as an example.
>Jumped ship to the Switch
The Switch is a complimentary console for most people, not their primary. Majority of Switch owners own at least a Playstation or Xbox
>They opt to release smaller games
The majority of which also release on playstation. There aren't many "small quirky" games only releasing on the Switch
>Japanese devs have a chip on their shoulder
Which is hard to believe when they still develop for the platform and Japan censors games as well.
>The Switch is a complimentary console for most people, not their primary.
Point being that Nintendo will see the majority of those games rather than Sony. Yes, the consumer will have access to both, but if Sony wants to transition to third-party only they have to win back all these companies to make exclusive, attractive games to pull people to their system and convince them not to publish on Nintendo or Xbox platforms which in this day and age is a very hard sell.
>The majority of which also release on playstation.
It's a coin toss, and we're also not seeing as many exclusive third-party titles like we used to have because companies don't want to miss out on the multiplat profit. Look at Sega for example, they had RGG Studio pretty much sucking at the teat of Sony for more than a decade but once they got paid to port to Xbox and PC and saw how much they could earn with their games they're never going to release a Sony-exclusive game again. Squeenix is porting their games to PC regularly now.
>Which is hard to believe when they still develop for the platform and Japan censors games as well.
Like I said, Senran Kagura was forced to gacha hell because of all the changes forced on them and how they forced them to cut content when the entire point of their game is ecchi fanservice. You're also constantly seeing censorship done to Playstation versions but not to Nintendo or PC versions when there are multiplats. Didn't Blue Reflection or something like that release with missing outfits?
You can't claim Nintendo will see the majority of something when it's not the case now. You're arguing based on an assumption with no hard evidence behind it beyond your own personal beliefs.
>It's a coin toss
It's quite literally happening right now. Most of those "small" games are still releasing on the playstation platform. Whether they release on other platforms isn't that significant because Sony has been carrying a library available on other platforms since their entry into the industry. PC still has yet to truly subplant console in sales and physical sales still dominate consoles.
>Senran
You've ignored my point. Other platforms have instituted censorship as well and Senran is just ONE title, you can't make a broad claim about all japanese developers then only bring up one title by one studio. And again, censorship policies are everywhere, not just with Sony.
>They literally killed themselves with movie games.
Good.
Serve them right for the unnecessarily long cutscene
Public hanging of Jim Ryan when?
Do you guys really think that Spiderman 2 is a bad game? I liked it t bh
im still wating for the new crash of the gaming Industry... THEY told me that it would happen in 2020....
Enjoy your awards, Neill 😀
Big gays to the last of us community
>Inflation hitting 12.7% in just two years.
>People wonder why budgets and prices keep increasing.
zoomers are economically illiterate. it's why they adore socialism.
And yet magically no 99% of other games on the market don't cost $300,000,000
the budget for final fantasy x, one of the biggest blockbusters of the time, was around $50-60 million after adjusting for inflation.
it also took less than 4 years to make from preproduction to release.
>the cost of games is just too high they need to be $70 msrp!
>by the way, we need to inflate what is defined as the budget for AAA game
>oh and we plan on increasing game prices again in a few years
Why do game devs always make games above the spec limits of the console, they try to make above and beyond instead of what will be best optimized
>movie games
Mandatory personal dilators and dilations stations cost some money you know?
>this thread is still up because sony ponies cant even admit its true EVEN WHEN sony themselves are telling its own developers they need to cut back on spending, sometimes by up to atleast 100 million
Something interesting to think about is that a lot of artists in other mediums will arbitrarily limit themselves in various ways in order to force them to dig deep into their creativity. I think that if you look at older game devs and the crazy creative things they did to make games work and run, its very obvious that having a limited budget is actually a net benefit for a game. Now obviously a game needs to have some kind of budget, but just think about how much more creative a lot of indies are these days than AAA games because they have to be smart about how they spend their time and money. They cant afford to just throw money at every problem, and aparantly sony cant either.
Sony's problem is that they dont let their devs room to breathe. They arent allowed to do poorly because then their studio will be ruthlessly murdered. This meant that they cant make smaller mid tier titles nor can they split their teams into smaller ones to make small mini titles either. Look at spider-man 2. Best selling game of the year and they're already firing 70 people this month. Sony is choking their devs out and there's nowhere to go but burn themselves out unless they can let them breathe and make the games they want to make without risking death of the studio.
>They arent allowed to do poorly
They arent allowed to do poorly because their budgets are so big that not selling a lot means that sony is losing an insane amount of money. Lower budget = lower risk, sony is legitimately fricking moronic and just too greedy for their own good.
Spider-Man 2 only sold well due to the IP, and the budget was ridiculously out of proportion.
God I hate modern gaming it's unreal ,overpriced slop ,if it wasn't for indies I would have just quit or stayed with emulation
The crash can't come fast enough
>console wars
Not even console wars, just morons who let Sony live in their head rent free for the obnoxious reasons.
is it really console wars to say that their budgets are very high for no reason?
100 million dollars nowadays is the same as 10 million dollars 20 years ago thats called inflation
>This time Sony will SURELY die says Ganker for the millionth time in 15 years
Not saying they're gonna die, but their own statements are funny.
Kind of amazing how these morons have been making the same claims since the PS3, then Sony breaks their sales records.
>then Sony breaks their sales records
where?
https://www.reuters.com/technology/sony-highlights-ps5-momentum-hardware-sales-top-50-million-2023-12-20/#:~:text=Sony%20highlights%20PS5%20momentum%20as%20hardware%20sales%20top%2050%20million,-By%20Sam%20Nussey&text=TOKYO%2C%20Dec%2020%20(Reuters),period%20sales%20for%20the%20device.
so what record? it's still begind the ps4 launch aligned
>but it had it's best black friday yet
I mean it's 20% down in the US yoy and this is the first year they claimed they weren't supply constrained
It's like there was a pandemic and a historical chip shortage or something that caused supply issues.
and?
Saying it's behind the PS4 as if it's a fault is being disingenuous because there was a supply chain issue but you're already arguing in bad faith so I'll just take satisfaction in already proving you wrong.
being disingenuous is blaming low hardware sales on the pandemic and than gloating about sales finally going up kek
Kind of ignores the rampant scalping issues when the consoles launched. They didn't do enough to keep the already limited supply out of scalper hands, and were probably didn't intentionally because they were selling out. Now the generation is lagged and they're backporting all the big releases. Doubled with the 70$ tax if you dare gamed in 9th gen.
Meanwhile I have been on Ganker for nearly that entire length of time and not once have been convinced to switch from console to PC.
PCgays ruin everything they touch.
Consolegays you can have a normal conversation about video games.
PC, they just ruin every discussion with begging, elitism, mental illness, cheating/hacking and coomershit.Their propensity for modding reflects their lack of respect for the craft; just change whatever I don't like so I don't ever have to immerse myself in the artist's world and vision.
They are constantly touting themselves as the superior platform yet constantly begging for console scraps, meanwhile the reverse is never true. You will rarely if ever find any well adjusted adults in any online community who are self professed PC master race people.
Their experience with video games will always be through the lens of internet/meme culture, not the games themselves.
>Consolegays you can have a normal conversation about video games.
Who exactly do you think you are fooling you extremely butthurt console pleb
consoleBlack folk are pathetic lmao
look how butthurt the consoleBlack person is
just make a new AAAA category for sponsored capeshit and GTA
As much as I laugh at sony fanboys,Nintendo fans are something else,a literal piece of shit but as long as it has the nintendo logo they will take it,praise and demand more
this angle really doesn't work when nintendo consoles fail if they don't meet expectations from fans and consoles like the PS5 sell 50 million units with brand name alone. ffs their software is so shit this gen that normalfahs are revisiting the "PS3 has no games" memes
If you need more than $3 million/year to pay for development of a AAA game (up to 20 professionals paid $100k/year, plus additional miscellaneous costs), it's vastly over budget.
Stop hiring troons. Stop hiring women. Stop hiring browns.
Something something Icarus something
good. frick snoy&gaystation.
I wish I was israeli
I don't even buy consoles anymore ,I just set aside some cash every month and upgrade my PC once every few years and I just pirate everything else
I don't understand why linear movie games are so expensive here. Open world at least makes sense to cost a lot.
honestly I'm more impressed on how they managed to spend 300 million bucks on spiderman 2. it's literally the same game from the last two times but with even worse forced sections and less shit to do
I'm convinced that most of the money from AAA game dev just goes to marketing or just straight up embezzled
they're probably just inflating the dev costs to avoid paying taxes. basically embezzlement but legal
All the cinematic presentation of these games costs a lot and you can't really recycle anything from the last game in that sense. It also just costs more and more as you try to increase the visual fidelity. It's why most Japanese games still are filled with cheap looking scenes where characters just stand around, rather than looking cinematic all the time. They have much lower budget.
just came here to say that white men suicide statistics will keep rising
lmao keep seething nazitroons
white men kill themselves, black men kill eachother. is it really all that different in the end?
>playstation sales rise
>white man keep killings themselves
so blacks and browns were the snoys all along?
I’m just popping in here to say FRICK MOVIEGAMES
Funny thing is, the best games for me are mostly by small teams or something. Triple A went down the shitter years ago. But somehow the mainstream casual normie seems to buy all this shit
Ganker generally thinks PC’s are the best platform for gaming. Ganker thinks PC’s have better capability of graphics, better FPS rate, sound.. Everything. Ganker thinks that the Xbox Series X and PS5 have nothing on the technology you can put into a PC.
Let me tell you why this is complete bullshit.
Microsoft and Sony spend literally hundreds of thousands of $’s putting technology in to each and every Xbox Series and PS5. Because they know what equipment they are using is the best technology available in todays market that will work in a machine without blowing up or over-heating too quick.
Where-as with a PC, you’d have to go out and buy a new graphics card just to enhance graphics. You think that’ll improve the game when in fact I’tll make your game shit. The reason the game has that style of graphics is because that’s the best it’ll run at. If you try and improve the graphics on the game, it’ll be too much data for the game to hold, and therefore it’ll make the game run slower than before and worse for your time playing it. Which means the money you’ve spent on the graphics card was a complete waste of time.
Xbox Series X and PS5 have got the everything it needs to make sure the games you play, will be the best way to play them. I seriously can’t understand how anyone can think PC’s are better than consoles.
The technology they’ve put into the Xbox Series X and still maintain the 8k 120 FPS for almost every game and have the graphics they do for each game, I don’t understand how people say the PS5 is better, never mind a PC.
Oky so they put up the price for the Xbox Gamepass and PS+ at more than $10 month, but I make more than that in an hour and you get more technology and things to do than PC for less, so they’ve got to make their money back some how.
In my eyes, Series X looks to be the best console. I’m not downgrading PS5 in any way, shape or form. I just think you get more bang for your buck buying the Xbox Series console.