They purposefully sabotaged this pokemon. The frick you typing aside, if it had some of its defensive stats put into its health it would just be stronger at the same BST because of how the damage calculations work, and might be able to do something with metal burst.
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I’ll always laugh at Pearlgays
It is such a strange choice of stats. I would make it
80
50
140
75
120
30
Give it calm mind and any other of these moves it doesn't get
Calm mind
Power gem
Flash cannon
Earth power
And give it filter
If anything, switch its Atk and Sp Atk there, since Probopass already does the special attacking better
>85
>85
>140
>40
>125
>20 (it's a castle/fortress wall, why is it even moving)
still dies to karate chop and mud slap, but at least it can try to use Stone Miss, now
The irony of Rock/Steel being such a shitty defensive typing will never not get to me.
It's the worst best defensive typing in the game and that just.... hurts. A legitimately broken as frick type combination that's completely ruined because the few things it happens to be weak to are very fricking strong and commonly used.
Honestly Pokemon having types was a mistake, Pokemon should have had unique lists of weaknesses and resistances instead.
>NOOOOO THATS TOO HARD TO REMEMBER
And it being the current case fricks over shit like this
It's literally impossible to make a good rock/steel type outside of complete bullshit
have a nice day, schizosama
>Pokemon should have had unique lists of weaknesses and resistances instead.
This would enable Game Freak to certain give Pokémon a frickload of weaknesses outside of what is possible now because "le weak" or "le extinct".
Tyranitar is good despite its shit typing, you just have to get a little creative.
Bastiodon has no good recovery, that's its first problem.
> Tyranitar is good despite its shit typing
That’s because Game Freak forgot that Mt.Silver is in Johto (no one tell them)
psychobabble
Suggesting such drastic change? On my autism board?
Ridiculous.
Give those defensive stats to Melmetal.
>They purposefully sabotaged this pokemon.
Yes like any other fossil. Its the point it was weak so it died.
>Yes like any other fossil. Its the point it was weak so it died.
Go back to Game Freak.
That doesn't even make sense, most of the fossils are average at worst and even had/have competitive relevance.
If so then Game Freak, being incompetent as always, fricked up.
Only fricked up thing here is the broken condom that resulted in your birth.
Original
But blindly blaming Game Freak for misguided autism is? Trash posts get trash responses.
Only comp fossils are galar ones(that are not even real fossils) and Areodactyl (thin deffences).
And Kabutops, Omastar, Cradily, Aurorus, Archeops, and Carracosta. As well as Tyrantrum and Rampardos, albeit very briefly so they don't really count.
Provide substantial evidence to back up your claims.
>Aurorus
If true the Game Freak fricked up.
Every competitive medium outside fanfic meta's my cited evidence, anon. It's also publicly listed so feel free to sort through stuff like Master Ball ranked teams or previous tournament results from the last 8.5 generations, the fossils will show up more than a few times.
Just because Aurorus had a niche in UU for gen 7 doesn't make Rock/Ice any better.
I'm sorry, why are you bringing up fanfic meta when I explicitly excluded that from my statement by name?
that's because it's cope autists who can't bare to admit gamefreak is bad at thee game say
It's unironically really good in pogo since it's a tanky steel that can kill other tanky steels and and grassmons that threaten Azumarill
>quad weak to earthquake
It never had a chance to be competitive from day 1
>1 brick break
>1 eq
it's OVER
Honestly though what is the more important stat, HP or Defense(s)?
Defenses. But you need a good typing, movepool, and/or ability to back those defenses up.
Defense and Special Defense reduce the damage the Pokémon receives from attacks. Higher the defense stat, the less damage received. Obviously this doesn't take resistances or weaknesses into account.
its a big "it depends". your overall bulk is calculated by HP x defense, so if you have 10 points to spare on a blissey you'd be better off putting it in defense. on bastiodon, HP investment is better.
Of course you also have two defensive stats so if something has 100 points in HP and both defenses you'd invest in HP. this is why defensive sets usually have a lot of HP, since the cost of investing into defenses is twice as high in many cases.
You get diminishing return on investment. The higher a defensive stat is, the less impactful each EV added is.
Because of this, high defenses and low HP are generally better than low defenses and high HP, because you get more out of investing in 1 stat, and it's the stat that will always matter when you're getting hit.
>The higher a defensive stat is, the less impactful each EV added is.
>Because of this, high defenses and low HP are generally better than low defenses and high HP
I don't get it. It sounds like you're contradicting yourself.
Maybe I explained it badly. Here's some examples.
Shuckle has high defenses and low HP. It benefits more from investing in HP than in defenses.
>0 SpA Mew Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Shuckle: 46-55 (18.8 - 22.5%) -- possible 5HKO
>0 SpA Mew Psychic vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Shuckle: 42-49 (23.2 - 27%) -- 47.9% chance to 4HKO
Blissey has high HP and low defenses. It benefits more from investing in defenses than HP.
>0 Atk Mew Psycho Cut vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Blissey: 316-373 (44.2 - 52.2%) -- 17.6% chance to 2HKO
>0 Atk Mew Psycho Cut vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 150-177 (23 - 27.1%) -- 51.4% chance to 4HKO
thank you for clarification. Pokemon is wack
Tbf it makes sense, investing more in a specific defense rather than a general defensive stat like HP should have more of an impact
If Bastiodon had 50 of each defense taken away and put into health it would take ~23% less damage.
with no ev investment, I mean
Shamelessly stealing pic related's gimmick in that gacha game for Bastiodon
>ability: Impenetrable Wall
>it and a partner in a double battle take 5% reduced damage for each weakness among themselves, cannot exceed 50% reduction
or
>strikes back for 1.5x immediately upon being hit for 4x effectiveness, 0.5x for a 2x effective move
and Metal Burst finally has counter's priority
this thing's the inspiration for the first, convoluted and poorly worded ability
Steel/Rock's only got 3 weaknesses, so you'd be jumping through a lot of hoops just to make a situationally better combination of Friend Guard and Filter and it'd still be stuck on a mon with no offensive or utility prospects unlike the Abilities it's trying to combine. And the second version would be damn useless, Bastiodon usually doesn't survive a Fighting or Ground hit to begin with without Sturdy and I don't think I've ever seen anyone intentionally try to kill it with Water moves outside in-game battles, not to mention it doesn't have much health which makes counter moves inherently less effective which is the main reason Metal Burst isn't ran (it doesn't need negative priority, Bastiodon's already got 30 speed it's not outspeeding shit).
>Steel/Rock's only got 3 weaknesses
you're right, the 2 being 4x made me think otherwise
I haven't touched a game in years tbh
the built in counter that is the second ability was meant to go off even if it fainted to the move, in my head, effectively being sort of like Aftermath, in a way, as well.
>it doesn't need negative priority
even if it's not outspeeding the opposing pokemon, it's still laughable when it does go before something like Vital Throw, Avalanche, Focus Punch, etc.
it feels like an oversight, or perhaps very unneeded "balancing" that it doesn't
honestly an insane HA could be essentially Metal Burst when dying lol
being built to die on purpose is better than being a failure to be a wall
yeah
but honestly give it more HP and less defenses and it's straight-up better
? Pair it with T-tar and they’re basically under aurora veil as long as bastiodon lives. Add x1.5 sandstorm sp def boost to boot.
Least it's good in pogo pvp. Literally a top 10 great league pokemon.
It's good in GO Battle League.
>100
>62
>148
>47
>108 (*1.5 in the sand)
>30
>FIXED
FIXED
It'd still be hot garbage in competitive, don't get me wrong, but it'd at least work as a Pokémon.
Like what were they thinking with that HP stat, how could Metal Burst even work in Gen 4? remember Sturdy only works since Gen 5
Filter would be a massive help, a boost to the hp and slap it's atk and def to 50 each.
Hp 90
Atk 50
def 145
Satk 50
SpDef 140
speed 30 (dump stat)
It's typing is bad, but it's not the worst thing in the world, if he had an ability to go with it. Filter, or sand spit and shore up.
Filter actually doesn't save it that much it's typing leaves it that open to an earth quake.
Maybe we will get a "Future" bastiodon from the new game that's pure steel.