This ruins Japan's image globally. I remember when Assassins Creed II came out, Game Informer did that whole cover story on the game and it's Renaissance Italy setting and it genuinely got me and probably thousands of other people interested in an place and area of history maybe they didn't know a lot about beforehand. They could have done the same thing with Japan and increasing interest in Japanese history for Gen Alpha or whatever new demographic gets into these sorts of things. Instead, they chose to put this big black guy in there and make it a story about white privilege or whatever the frick, and it's just a big slap in the face to society.
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Japan ruined their own image when they created shit like Felix or Astolfo
Asiatic countries have always been gay and castrated people.
This
Astolfo is based though
astolfo is responsible for a massive wave of nu-trannies worldwide. have a nice day
It's not Japan's fault the stereotypical Frenchman is a lala nancy boy with pink hair
keep crying buddy
>keep crying buddy
You have a lot of cuck imagery saved on your computer?
Remember when Ubisoft showed the reveal trailer for Assassin's Creed 1 and people pointed out that the hand crossbow that Altaïr had was anachronistic? Ubisoft removed it from the game.
How much of the OG staff has retired? Must be entirely different people working there.
How does Yasuke being in the game taking place in the historical time period that he lived in Japan for make it anachronistic?
>Wasn't a samurai
>Didn't actually do that stuff.
He was a retainer to Oda, by all accounts he was a samurai. You'd have to make a bunch of logical leaps to argue the case that he wasn't. And considering the game is fiction, why the frick would it matter? Did it matter that Ezio Auditore didn't actually fistfight the pope?
In a way I respect you more than the other guy, because at least you're honest about your views.
>In a way I respect you more than the other guy, because at least you're honest about your views.
I'm really starting to understand that thing SJWs used to say about "I wish all the racists would just come out and admit it" because damn this is one of those situations where all the squirming and worming is just moronicly transparent. I'm actually kinda' glad I'm on Ganker at least because here they can at least say "I DON'T LIKE Black folk" and I can call them a moron and tell them to go back to fricking their sister.
By no accounts. There is literally not a single source that calls him by Samurai.
Was he a retainer to Oda? Then he was a samurai. The land-owning requirement didn't exist in his time.
A pencil pusher is a retainer.
If he was a samurai he would have had a surname
Pencil pushers didn't get their own pages. The concept of a samurai as a landed feudal lord didn't exist at that time. If you took up arms for a lord, you were a samurai. Bushido was formalized during the edo period, not the Sengoku era.
By that logic every Ashigaru or peasant militiaman was a samurai. Frick off.
Yeah, they were. It wasn't until the edo period where samurai became a distinct social class. Before that, samurai was synonymous with soldier.
No they weren't. Stop making shit up.
>This period was marked by the loosening of samurai culture, with people born into other social strata sometimes making a name for themselves as warriors and thus becoming samurai. One such example is Toyotomi Hideyoshi, a well-known figure who rose from a peasant background to become a samurai, sengoku daimyo, and kampaku (Imperial Regent).
>making a name for themselves as warriors and thus becoming samurai
Crazy, huh? So if a dude was a lord's personal retainer, not just a militiaman conscripted from a village, during an era where the term samurai was much more loosely applied, why not call him that?
>one example is (lists one if the most important people in the entire era)
Lmao yea bro just become a fricking military genius then be a samurai. Also there's debate to this day whether hideyoshi was truly a samurai or not.
That's not helping your argument
>Also there's debate to this day whether hideyoshi was truly a samurai or not.
Yeah because the term samurai wasn't as clearly defined back then. Which is my entire fricking argument.
Should be easy to find a single primary source document referring to Yasuke as a samurai then. Just 1
From Ota Gyuchi
>This black man called Yasuke was given a stipend, a private residence, etc., and was given a short sword with a decorative sheath.
Sounds like a samurai to me
Sounds like a butler to me
You think a weapon bearer is simply a servant and not a literal bodyguard? That Oda would look at the guy and just be like "lol wash my dishes"?
picrel, Gaddafi's bodyguard, the legendary warrior in some future game, kek
You described a servant lol. He wasn't given a katana or surname, he was seen as the help and lived in his little monkey shed
>He wasn't given a katana or surname
A surname's honestly irrelevant to someone being a samurai. Jan Joosten van Lodensteijn was also made a samurai alongside William Adams and his Japanese name was simply Yayosu.
>Jan Joosten
Not a samurai
Adams is close to a samurai but also not a samurai
>awarded two samurai swords and was a direct retainer to the shogun
>not a samurai
Had no connection with nobility and nobility was not passed to his lineage
Not a samurai
This isn't medieval europe homie. Samurai isn't the same thing as your Knights. Samurai is a catch all term for a bunch of job promotions. Hideyoshi Toyotomi was the son of an Ashigaru, as an example.
>private residence
He had a shed. William Adams in comparison owned land and lived in a mansion with his Japanese wife and family.
>Black personcels are now equating Yasuke with Hideyoshi
Jesus christ this gas gone beyond we wuz territory, this is some Yakub level shit lmao
Okay name me one samurai without a surname
Should be easy
The land-owning requirement has existed since the Kamakura period.
That still doesn't matter because one of Nobunaga's own vassals said that Yasuke was given land as well in the form of a house.
Being kept in the Daimyo's outhouse isn't owning land.
He was also given a stipend, a short sword, free reign to wander around Kyoto and bodyguards.
According to Thomas Lockley's gay fanfiction I'm sure. Buy an ad Black person.
No, from the vassal Ota Gyuichi's compilation of his master Oda Nobunaga's life.
Again largely fabricated, doctored and intentionally mistranslated by dishonest homosexuals like Lockley.
The revisionist redditorgay you're aping wasn't citing Gyuichi with that but Kaneko Hiraku whose financially involved with the clowns behind yasuke-san dot com.
Pic related is him and them.
Looks nothing like the person who's article I was using. While it's lamentable that it's from a huffpost.jp article I did so with the belief that a Japanese person's slant on the matter would be more honest than some white (or in this case black) savior trying to put a shade on history.
Huffpost just posts translation of Western shit and your quote is taken straight from the only allowed Yasuke revisionist post off reddshit's askhistorians.
Sounds dubious to me because this Lockley boogeyman you have, as far as I can be assed to google, only started his Yasuke shit in 2019. Meanwhile modern Japanese translations of the Shincho Koki go back to 1992. I don't see why they'd resort to him for citing the Shincho Koki when they could just get the words directly from the source.
>The land-owning requirement has existed since the Kamakura period.
Miyamoto Musashi is literally regarded as one of Japan's most famous samurai and he didn't hold land. He was also born well after the Kamakura period.
Musashi was a wandering homeless Ronin, an excellent tactician, martial artist and swordsman but he basically relinquished his Samurai status by not choosing to serve under a Daimyo in the newly established Han system.
If this is the case, why is he referred to as a retainer and not a samurai in historical sources?
All retainers who serve samurai in the class system are samurai. After 200 years of peace, an era came when the military power of the samurai was no longer needed. It was not uncommon for poor lower-class samurai to earn a living by making umbrellas, growing morning glories, and raising small birds and selling them. However, as long as they had a master to serve and were aware of being samurai, they were all definitely samurai.
So why are they called retainers and not samurai?
a samurai is a catch-all term, its not the same as a knight.
>a samurai is a catch-all term
Maybe to westerners but to a Japanese that actually knows history, No it is not.
There are samurai, kensei, kengo, kenshi, and a myriad of other terms and they are all completely different. Western people combine them all for lack of understanding. Just like the katana most people refer to is actually called a Uchigatana. Western morons do not dictate Japanese history.
>Western morons do not dictate Japanese history.
Neither do "I'm totally japanese guise" weebs and yet here you are.
I actually am Japanese though. I went to a Nobunaga exhibition in Gifu a couple months ago. Absolutely nothing about Yasuka. What happened? I though he was a super samurai or something?
>I actually am Japanese though
Sure buddy.
I mean, I'm sitting here in my apartment in Osaka having lunch but ok.
>I'm a weeb tourist and that makes me totally japanese bro
Sure, buddy.
actually it's not that strange for English speaking Japanese to be on Ganker since Japanese equilvant of Ganker on Futaba is awful and pretty much dead.
It's also not strange for people on the internet to make up bullshit, and Ganker isn't really what you'd call a blazing bastion of truth and honesty.
I didn't say that 'tard that I assume you were arguing with, wasn't lying though.
calm down Black person
Yeah ok, whatever Black person. Been living in Japan for 5 years, never had to visit a immigrations office because my parents are actually Japanese but whatever have fun with your pet Black folk and spics.
Ah yes, of course. How could anyone forget about that iron clad law that only Japanese people can live in the Japans, just like this fellow in this picture, a bona fide man born and raised in the Japans.
You mean the same western morons in these threads who think the role of a retainer of a daimyo is a stupid position when most Japs would kill themselves for it?
Samurai is a term applied to a bunch of job promotions in feudal Japan. Kawaminami Genbei served his lord as a Chinese translator and he was a samurai, as an example. You all go on acting like samurai is a term for warrior dudes when Japs go on about how a samurai is more than just war shit and did things like tea ceremonies and write haikus.
Lords are samurai.
Their retainers are also samurai.
Perhaps you mistakenly believe that only those who own their own castles and territories are samurai.
Being a samurai was more than wearing armor and carrying a katana. It was a hereditary title. Samurai were more than just soldiers. They were lords with their own castles, servants, and lands. Think of them as lords, barons and knights from medieval Europe. The Japanese would never let a foreigner become a samurai.
That's not true. Toyotomi Hideyoshi was a young, poor farmer. Like Yasuke, he was also a samurai and a vassal of Oda Nobunaga.
Hideyoshi is a weird case - his common birth meant he could never take the title of shogun, even if he had been elevated to noble status by Oda Nobunaga.
Hideyoshi was the son of an ashigaru and joined the Oda clan as an ashigaru himself, and he became a samurai and vassal to Nobunaga.
I saw a few threads back that (besides the obvious racism) people deny the notion of Yasuke being a samurai because he was a kosho and anons equate japanese feudal power structures with european ones. The fact that you brazenly said "think of them as lords, barons, and knights" while not knowing about Hideyoshi's story just reinforces that.
>He was a retainer to Oda,
Yes
>by all accounts he was a samurai
No
If I am recruiter for the US Army that makes me part of the government, but it doesn't make me a US senator.
> by all accounts he was a samurai
By all accounts he was but a page, Nobunagas "comfort boy" for few years, not a warrior. A Samurai Warrior had to be brought up as such from early on, learn the way of Bushido and train every day for many years. There is no record of him winning any legendary duel with another Samurai or command an army or just a unit in battle or accomplish any noteworthy heroic deed. Nuffin.
>Kosho is a young man serving a busho, a koshō acted as a bodyguard, secretary, attendant and sometimes a lover for their lord. Similar to a squire, a koshō was the son of another high- ranking samurai. When they came of age, they would become samurai themselves.
I don't really see how they could have justified keeping Yasuke as a mere Kosho considering that he was in his mid 20s when the Jesuits brought him to Nobunaga.
>A Samurai Warrior had to be brought up as such from early on, learn the way of Bushido and train every day for many years.
Hey man want to guess when the code of Bushido was formalized
I'll give you a hint, it was long after Yasuke died
Because what you're referring to is a conception of Samurai that didn't fricking exist in the Sengoku period, dipshit
>Nobunagas "comfort boy" for few years
Here's the even crazier thing. Nobunaga met Yasuke at the end of his life. The very last year before he was double crossed. That means Yasuke would have to have been trained, saw combat, and made into a samurai in just a year.
It took Hideyoshi 30 years to climb that ladder.
The only combat Yasuke participated in would be the Honno-ji incident where Nobunaga lost his life. Nobunaga(and thus his direct retinue) did not directly participate in any battles in that ~1 year timeframe.
you're arguing with racists that will do literally anything but agree with you, stop wasting your time. see pic
Sup, Kris.
why do you have that saved on your pc? What's wrong with you lol
He was Oda’s pet monkey. An amusement for people to have a laff at.
>by all accounts he was a samurai.
Except for the japanese ones who claim that he was a tool-holder 家人.
Most of the japanese response threads are people just going "huh? but he was a slave wasn't he" followed by responses "yes he was a slave."
>He was a retainer to Oda, by all accounts he was a samurai.
His gardener, and house maids were retainers too you idiot.
Did you get this angry when he was presented as an action McFightingman in Nioh?
Well Yasuke wasn't a main character in Nioh. He was a cool boss fight and also admitted Nobunaga never made him a samurai
Retainer = samurai too
no matter how you slice it, Yasuke was by every definition, a Samurai
>usually
>retainer = [REDACTED] samurai
>source: featured google search result idk
Do you know what the word usually means
Usually means that it is the most common, but rare exceptions happen. William Adams was a retainer to Tokugawa Ieyasu in his role as Hatamoto.
Another foreigner appointed to samurai, who was also kept as a retainer, was Rinoie Motohiro. He served in the role of translator and later on went to become a buddhist monk.
Japanese sources don't refer to him as a "retainer" but say "には、この黒人・弥助が住処(部屋)と扶持(食べ物)を与えられ、道具持ちをしていたという記述があるという。"
This is the closest thing there is to claiming Yasuke has a rank of any kind.
The source here is explicitly repeating a rumour (postfacing it by "it is said") that there "is a black man who was given food and board and that he carried tools".
The problem is black people suck and smell like shit. No one wants to play a Black person MC.
Oh that's not the problem, it's just that Ubisoft used to care about historical authenticity.
For example, Da Vinci in real life was an inventor and painter. In the game, he was also an inventor and painter, they just tied him into the story by making him build assassin gadgets and help Ezio.
Yasuke in real life was a retainer and servant to Nobunaga, he wasn't a samurai though. Samurai is a noble title and a separate cast from commoners. Some great leaders of Japan weren't even samurai themselves.
They could have made Yasuke an assassin mentor or something, maybe even a secret ninja after the period were he disappeared from history books.
Also, I'm annoyed by the female kunoochi because they just made her a pop culture TMNT action ninja instead of something more realistic. The classic AC concepts with social stealth would have worked PERFECTLY but they fricked it up.
So what are your thought on Yasuke being called a samurai in Nioh?
It doesn't.
Alright y'know that's actually fair. I was remembering his heath bar said Obsidian Samurai but it's been a while. I actually sorta' like this take on the character myself.
I forgot about that too, I don't remember him having much dialogue in 1 either and you basically just got to duel him.
I'm ok with it, he's cool. Nioh goes full fantasy and just about every character is considerably changed from reality even though they're (loosely) based on real people.
Hell, a Yasuke samurai game where Nobunaga never died at Honnoji and ended up making Yasuke an actual samurai could have been cool.
>Yasuke samurai game where Nobunaga never died at Honnoji and ended up making Yasuke an actual samurai could have been cool.
That actually makes sense, and it would make a good history fiction, especially when Nobunaga didn't care for a status and rewarded those who worked for it,
to a point he made Hideyoshi who started out as a peasant, rank up to a Daimyo over the years (and eventually took Nobunaga's place after he died).
Although I highly doubt Ubislop would actually respect history like that, and even if they did they wouldn't have balls to make Black Samurai invade Korea, as Nobunaga was plotting to invade Korea after taking control of Japan.
Yasuke being a full on samurai in something like Nioh or samurai warriors works for me because Koei usually portrays a very fantasy version of the time they are representing, and they take important characters and turn them into fighters, people like Zhuge Liang or Lady No are playable characters, so having Yasuke be the same doesn't bother me. Honestly I just find it more interesting that so much Yasuke related stuff has been released lately
Interesting? It shouldn't even be considered quaint because of how obvious it is that the reason you see Yosuke so much is because america worship Black folk and the only contact they can connect with japanese culture is only specifically this dude. It's possibly the only inspiration these incompetents devs can take from. It happened ONCE and these homies act like their cultures can mix. "Muh real black samurai"
about the same as Shibata Katsuie turning into a giant boar monster or Magara Naotaka becoming an ice oni with a frickoff massive sword that shoots power waves or Benkei being a porcelain pot demon, who cares the japs can do what they want with their history
the equivalent would be complaining about slavery being in a game where you have Ulysses Grant turn into a werewolf or Abe Lincoln become a super-powered frankenstein's monster that shoots lightning
>the equivalent would be complaining about slavery being in a game where you have Ulysses Grant turn into a werewolf or Abe Lincoln become a super-powered frankenstein's monster that shoots lightning
Come to think of it, I can't remember the last western made videogame that had american historical figures with supernatural shit of that caliber attached to them. The last I can think of is asscreed 3 with the Washinton DLC, and even then he was just a dude with a macguffin, not an actual wizard or anything.
because the west is too busy being up its own ass trying to be taken seriously with moviegames nowadays to just do something stupid and fun without considering the "political ramifications"
i love the idea of a game based on yasuke live experience in japan,even if they take some liberty with the original history.Sadly they just did this to apeels to the woke morons and they gonna blunder this opportunity...
>maybe even a secret ninja after the period were he disappeared from history books.
At least this would have been thematically appropriate for the AC series.
All of you morons throwing a shit fit over Yasuke are getting baited hard. At least he existed.
Never in the history of the fricking world has there ever been a strong female warrior and yet you're worried about them taking some liberties with a real person.
Wake up morons
I wouldn't have wanted the main character of AC2 to be Leonardo DaVinci
Maybe that helps
devs have said that the ninja girl can't hold her own against group encounters very well and is purposely more of a stealth build, so at least they have that this time whereas the last few times they had a lady character she just ignored all that shit and could go toe to toe with bigmclargehugeguy.
>devs have said that the ninja girl can't hold her own against group encounters very well and is purposely more of a stealth build
I admit that it's been ages but I'm pretty sure that was the same pitch they gave about what differentiates Jacob and Evie in Syndicate. And in that game it's absolutely irrelevant.
yes, you'll notice where i said that they didn't do that with the other attempts, i'm talking the french nig from liberation, evie, the chinese b***h in the side scroller, kassandra & fem eivor. i don't recall anything along those lines about syndicate because i didn't really pay attention to it much since i was still butthurt over unity shitting the bed and i bought syndicate on a severely reduced discount before finally giving it a go. the only defense i can give evie is she used a cane/sword and guns so at least that gives her an edge in the fight whereas this ninja girl will only have small blades and shuriken, so it feels like they're actually delivering on it this time.
>only defense i can give evie is she used a cane/sword and guns so at least that gives her an edge
Except that she's no worse at doing the boxing clubs than Jacob, even though she's supposed to be the stealth build character.
right, i'm agreeing with you that they made evie too strong. even with london being the disease infested shithole it was a man could still punch a woman once and end a fight.
sounds like it, a onions diet doesn't give much protein to the muscles
reread the post my dude
So their main idea is just that a Japanese man isn't masculine enough to be able to fight?
>it's fine to be misogynist as long as it's against Asian girls
So with Japan, they go with the "tiny weak little Asian girl" as realistic. But when they previously had white girls, them being able to take on an army of guys IS realistic?
Source?
Bruh, the Renaissance is covered extensively in history class. What do you mean you didn't know about it beforehand?
In high school history class? Maybe in europe.
I'm not that old.
Born after 9/11?
Nope. Late 90s baby :')
nani the frick?! How dare they?! This is an outrage! it´s a scandal!!
Is that the prime minister of canada?
Was curious what the Japs were saying about the game so I went and looked.
I kneel, coomer-sama.
At the end of the day, to follow up on the original point....instead of reinvigorating interest in Japanese history, this game exist to generate interest in a fictious afrocentric history, centered around 1 character, with is fake waifubait sidekick. And that sucks for everyone, especially Asians and Japanese. They got the shortest end of the stick.
Seems to be doing the exact opposite. Because of people like OP, you now have a ton of discourse surrounding the differences between Sengoku era Japan and Edo era, the difference in how samurai were perceived in Japanese society, and the contact Japan had with the outside world, specifically the Portugese. Combined with the popularity of that Shogun show, this is probably one of the best periods to get into Japanese history in years.
No, you have a lot of angry right-wingers and a lot of happy leftards supporting it. Nobody gives a poop about Japan anything besides the fact that Jamal kills a bunch of nips for unknown reasons.
>Nobody gives a poop about Japan anything besides the fact that Jamal kills a bunch of nips for unknown reasons.
The popularity of Shogun, Blue Eye Samurai, and Ghost of Tsushima makes me disagree with you.
I'll humor you. Let's say, in the most technical sense of the world, this clusterfrick has, indeed, generated "interest" in Japanese history. The difference between this and AC II would be
>AC II vibes were unambiguously positive. Got people were interested in Renaissance Italy for it's own sake.
vs.
>AC: Shadow vibes are unambiguously negative. People are researching Japanese history to prove "their side" right, or figure out what the hell the truth actually is.
One is an enjoyable experience of learning. The other is a political shitstorm.
No, there was definitely dumb discourse surrounding the Borgias when AC2 came out. And despite this, research is research. The fact that it's being done to win an argument is irrelevant.
That Shogun show is also shit. A white guy, GOT tier political bullshit and fire weapons instead of cool sword samurai fights. It is a well documented historical fact that Japan had very little contact with western culture until the arrival of the black ships. That´s the reason they were still mostly in the feudal age while the western world had already had the industrial revolution and lived in the fricking Victorian era.
I´m sure there probably were episodes of contact before that but, for the most part but it´s pretty ridiculous to cherry pick and hang on to those and disproportionately highlight them and develop them. The truth of the matter is that transportation alone made the world far less diverse back in the 1600. Traveling was dangerous and Japan is a fricking island.
>INB4 the guy is real
Yeah, he probably stood out quite a lot being the one black guy on the whole island. Choosing him as protagonist is tokenism and it´s not even subtle. Maybe the point was put him on a Tom Cruise like role and embrace the idea of the foreigner in the strange land and justify exposition? In any case an actual japanese looking character would have been better for immersing in the japanese setting. There are some things for which a foreigner is always a foreigner.
>In any case an actual japanese looking character would have been better for immersing in the japanese setting.
Wow too bad there isn't one right there on the fricking cover of the game then
Women weren't fighters, it would have been nice to play as someone that realistically could have been a warrior in Japan that era
Well good thing she's an assassin, not a warrior.
Tyrone will save gaming
If you didn't already like Japan you can suck my dick
The people who worked on the really old AC games at the start were actually pretty genuine in their attempts to create art. Its not been like that for a very long time.
All video games used to be that way. They used to be about celebrating life, and filled with spirit.
>Soulful music
>good voice acting
>Graphics that hold up 15 years later
>intriguing setting that literally "draws you in" and exposes you to another world
Vs
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>horrible voice acting
>graphics look the same as they did 15 years ago
>Just some old Japanese dude dying
>Camera pans in on both protagonists faces despite them supposedly being "assassins"
kek
Its just a case of AC originally being somewhat of an artistic endeavour for 1 and 2 but transitioned into more of a product after that. It got more and more soulless every year.
>That rap music at the end
holy shit, this really is a Black person game.
>rap music
Are you genuinely deaf?
>actually that's yoko ono rock with surf hip-hop r&b influence.
Sure, whatever you want to call it, but it's clearly not rap.
it is extremely out of place though
More or less out of place than AC Revelations using Woodkid as the music for its trailer
well as far as I am concerned, the series went to shit after 2 anyways
It was more or less a sped up Enka song.
>be yasuke
>be nobunaga's pet monkey
>mastah is getting attacked
>do nothing
>don't seppuku because you're not a samurai
>spared and exiled because you're not a samurai and not seen as someone that would take revenge
He was under Nobunaga for what, 8 months or so, right?
Sounds like he'd barely even learn much Japanese, let alone get any significant training with a sword.
The Shincho Koki says that he apparently understood a little Japanese and that Nobunaga never tired of talking with him.
Right away or a few months in?
Dunno. The Shincho Koki is basically a vassal's biography of Nobunaga. It's focused on him, not Yasuke.
>Nobunaga never tired of talking with him
>Nobunaga known to write a lot as well
>Never makes any mention of this man he supposedly "never tired of talking with"
HMMMM
The old trailers for these games used to be soulful
They probably did this to make more people pick the woman tbh. As its the same devs as Odyssey and they were annoyed nobody picked Kassandra. So black people who buy this game will pick the black guy and white people and asians will pick the Japanese girl.
/v/, can we get a physiognomy check???
1-troony with the typical angloid hipster aesthetic
2-israelite guy who looks like a real life troll
3-Basedboy trying to look masculine
Even without the blatant DEI crap, we already got TWO better samurai AC games in Ghost of Tsushima and Rise of the Ronin
>playing AC after Revelations
The hookblade has 2 parts you see. The hook and the blade.
I guarantee no one that posts this image as a defense of yasuke plays fgo
Semi-related, it is kinda weird how female Nobunaga keeps happening.
I fricking need oda nobuna yabou season 2 right fricking now damnit
>minority opinion among the Japanese
Look at the Japanese version of the trailer and scroll down. If you can sift through the weeaboos writing in Google translated Japanese apologizing for it, you'll see that most Japanese disagree with having Yasuke be the main character
>Look at the Japanese version of the trailer and scroll down. If you can sift through the weeaboos writing in Google translated Japanese apologizing for it, you'll see that most Japanese disagree with having Yasuke be the main character
, the way they typed those comments make it so obvious. It’s all very proper, dictionary form Japanese that’s very clearly been google translated. Might fool people who know nothing about the language and don’t bother translating but I can’t imagine any actual Japanese people falling for it. It’s really sad.
Its shit but its not the end of the world. I played Odyssey and Kassandra was fairly likeable. So I'm going to assume they are not going to make this cringe with racism stuff about asians to black people.
Instead of rewriting white history, a bunch of white devs from Quebec decide to rewrite non-white history instead. Non-white history has shat on by all Western media, and now just used to push their DEI agenda since they expect they will not complain as much as whites. Buying this game will send them a message they can continue doing this for all history.
>Instead of rewriting white history
They're done doing it for now. They already rewrote white history with 2 (inb4 hurr italians aren't white), 3, Black Flag, Rogue, Liberation, Unity, Syndicate and Valhalla.
>inb4 hurr italians aren't white
we aren't white Anglo homosexual
>Ubisoft makes Ireland Assassins Creed game
>you play as member of British Army
>Ubisoft makes Ireland Assassins Creed game
>you play as a nigerian woman
>Ubisoft makes WW2 Assassins Creed game
>you play as a Nazi
That armor looks like shit. I like how the helmet is deliberately designed to not have any sort of face mask so that the trailers and advertisements can show his ugly nose and big lips and loudly communicate that he's black.
Meanwhile, in Nioh, the Obsidian Samurai/Yasuke has a full face mask. To protect his fricking face. Because that's what face masks are supposed to be used for.
>LOOK AT MY FACE homie, I'M THE ONE WHO KILLED YOU
>I AM A SNEAKY ASS ASSIN N SHEEIT
Why didnt they just make an AC game set in Africa if they wanted a Black protagonist?
Again, AC has been shitty for several games in a row now.
Is this the black flag team? Because otherwise I don't really see this being any good mechanics wise.
AC fatigue+ pandering makes it almost an instant pass for me, just like the last three games that I only played briefly when they got free, only to drop them less than 4 hours in.
racism is illogical hatred that's just mad at things existing in front of them. Don't feed the hate by arguing, because chuds don't really wanna' argue, they want a platform to spew vitriol on.
Also picrel
>We're used to seeing games where Oda Nobunaga is a girl. There's no reason to make a fuss over a black samurai now
>racism is illogical hatred that's just mad at things existing in front of them
That's not what racism is
> they want a platform to spew vitriol on.
That's exactly what you are doing
Keep posting that minority opinion homosexual. Most people don't enjoy this. Ynbaw btw.
Meanwhile every single reaction site on the jp web is either actively shitting on it or are apathetic but are still confused by the ahistoricism and bad character design. (except 2ch who doesn't even have a thread about it and would rather talk about Sega Nascar Arcade and posting Stellar Blade coomer webms)
>Meanwhile every single reaction site on the jp web is either actively shitting on it or are apathetic but are still confused by the ahistoricism and bad character design. (except 2ch who doesn't even have a thread about it and would rather talk about Sega Nascar Arcade and posting Stellar Blade coomer webms)
To be fair there is very little reason to try to advertise this to Nips, they will absolutely not buy it. Which means that for some reason they're using yasuke to advertise to the western audience who also hate seeing black people.
>2ch
>webms
Yes, they love them.
Particularly posting clips from the lesser known embarrassing and hentai works of famous VAs.
The chuds have been spamming this board for so long that I'm starting to like the black samurai idea. Gonna enjoy slaying nips with my BBC.
You weren't gonna buy it anyway.
Well, something is certain, that blend skill won´t be available this time around...
I swear, these chuds like OP put more effort into gatekeeping Japanese culture than the actual Japanese. Chris Broad wrote about how goofy this whole thing is in his book; those goobers don't know a damn thing.
>Yasuke is part of the Black and Japanese culture and was represented as a samurai warrior even in Japanese media, so keep the same silence you have when they do it. We know that your complaints ain’t, and will never be about correct representation
I can't believe Lasagna al Gaib predicted playable Yasuke in asscreed.
Where the frick do you homosexuals come from? Bunkerchan? Here's a friendly reminder to dilate.
Gamingcirclejerk
God, I always get a laugh at remember how all you /qa/ schizos got btfo.
Yeah but it's not racist when the japanese do it, while it most certainly is when the canadian frogs do it, the problem here isn't that they're leftists, it's that they're fricking french.
>it's that they're fricking french.
Not if you ask a frenchman. They do not acknowledge french canadians as french.
>Not if you ask a frenchman. They do not acknowledge french canadians as french.
I support their decision to discard them as embarrassing and worthless. I do however need a way to shit on them then that does not disparage the french.
I mean it usually is racist in the sense that they portray these black characters as stupid unsophisticated brutes
>I mean it usually is racist in the sense that they portray these black characters as stupid unsophisticated brutes
Counterpoint Avdol from jojo's absolutely based black man.
Guilty Gear is a good example of the kind of mindfricked shit the new americrowd gets up to since they also started vandalizing wikis to remove actual history.
>black and japanese culture
>uses examples of anime set in a FANTASY world
So, Yasuke is a fictional character?
you don't even know what the game is about, why don't you shut the frick up and wait for the game to be released?
part and parcel
I find it funny how reddit normalgays call everyone that likes a Japanese thing a weeaboo and talk about how Japan bad nonstop, but as soon as they have the chance to talk about a black guy being an honorable noble samurai lord, suddenly they're all experts on Japanese culture and history and know the sengoku period inside and out.
Seriously, why are some of you like this? Spent 15 years yelling at people to stop liking Japanese thing, made your epic cringe compilations cry about white guys liking japan thing, sent death threats to the Leetstreet Boys for making a shitty meme song where they talk about anime stuff, but now you're going to bat for THIS?!??
How much influence does Italian made media even have today? The point is that there's nothing they feel they have the need to "fight back" against.
Pretty much, it's telling just how much "btfo'ing the weebs" comes up in this discussion. Probably was a big talking point when they were making the fricking game.
AC II celebrated Italians and the Renaissance. And it was pre-woke so the main protagonist was an Italian guy and all the characters were Europeans.
I'm just curious why they were more respectful to the Norse even
>This ruins Japan's image globally.
Holy shit please tell me you're joking. You can't actually believe this, even as a fricking weeb. There's no way you're this deranged.
>Nippon has fallen
>Millions must commit Seppuku
can you post an image showing the size of you jak folder?
>more like /r/askhistorian revisionists
Disagree. /r/aslhistorian is great
Every time I see stuff from that subreddit it's always someone getting schooled that historical facts don't care about their feelings.
Also, why are you outright admitting that research from certified historians isn't enough for you, and that you had to find comments that fit and confirm YOUR bias on the matter?
Just admit you don't like black people already, so full of shit and you're afraid to say that?
>Disagree. /r/aslhistorian is great
You would think that you holocaust-tier denier homosexual.
They actively censor actual historians from correcting the mod cliques on subjects they know fricking nothing about.
>they overtook our language by making it a bad thing to call Black folk Black folk
>they overtook our culture with Black person music
>they overtook politics with obama and St. Georg Floyd
>they overtook our movies
>they overtook our genetics by breeding white women, with pure blacks or mixed race making up 79% of americans age 14 and below last year
>they've been overtaking our video games for a while, and now are starting to take non-western games
where will it end?
I've noticed a lot of people during this whole discourse pretending like Asscreed was always historically inaccurate and ridiculous but I also distinctly remember when the series was praised for it's historicity. All the scifi fantasy conspiracy shit was a twist as you played the games. Idk if it's people who weren't around back when the first few Asscreed titles were new or they just don't care.
Obviously the series is totally different now so whether it matters is another matter
>I've noticed a lot of people during this whole discourse pretending like Asscreed was always historically inaccurate and ridiculous but I also distinctly remember when the series was praised for it's historicity.
the games have always taken leaps with certain parts, but they always nailed the cultural styles of each era. one inaccuracy i can think of is cesare borgia, he didn't die in whatever year it was ezio killed him in brotherhood, in fact he lived for another ten years or so after that irl. but it's only ever been small shit like that.
The didn't get the Norse even remotely right. It was marvel-tier slop.
They kind of started going off the rails with Origins. That game was full on fantasy and every game since has been as well.
It was the first game where you play as a wizard and you fight sphinxes and giant snakes and shit.
I'm telling you, Shadows will have kitsune, dragons, ghosts, all that. You'll sword fight a tengu. Yasuke will have a battle with Shuten Doji and get his club as a weapon.
The reason why these stories almost always have a white or a black foreigner male protagonist is all the same idea: it is understood that the country of Japan is a submissive bottom, it is a pussy made to be fricked.
But it’s a western game.
black people are legitimately mentally ill when it comes to lying and making stuff up about yasuke.. this video is insane
WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS HOW MUCH I HATE FRANCE RIGHT NOW
1. Yasuke actually existed.
2. He was a direct vassal of Oda Nobunaga.
3. He received a stipend from the Oda family.
4. Matsudaira Ietada witnessed him serving alongside Nobunaga on an expedition and recorded it in his diary. Ietada's diary is also known for recording the exact date and time of a total lunar eclipse.
5. If Yasuke is not considered a samurai, then more than 99% of Japanese people who have been classified as samurai in historical studies should not be considered samurai.
6. Whether he's worthy of being the protagonist of Assassin's Creed is another question.
Was he called a samurai?
>no
Then he ain’t. Also japs don’t consider him a samauri, so you definitely don’t decide who is or isn’t a samurai more than the japs.
Nobunaga-sama was accompanied by a black man who was presented to him by the missionaries and to whom he gave a stipend. His body was black like ink and he was 6 shaku 2 fun (182.4 cm or near 6 feet) tall. His name was said to be Yasuke.
11 May 1582. The Ietada Diary
Ietada said "gave a stipend(扶持/Fuchi)" means "That black man, Yasuke, He is samurai". A samurai would never use this expression for someone who is not a samurai. Receiving 扶持 from their lord is proof of being a samurai.
Even in Sengoku era Japan, Black folk were pittied enough to get a welfare check.
Apparently Yasuke wasn't enough of a Samurai to his supposed fellow peers in Ietada, Hideyoshi, Ieyasu or any of the other multitude of officials serving under Nobunaga for them to give a shit about saving him from having his black ass sold back to the Portuguese.
Because you clearly know what exactly happened at the time of his capture and where his peers were.
>Because you clearly know what exactly happened at the time of his capture
He was captured in 1582 at Honnouji Temple in Kyoto by one of Nobunaga's former generals Mitsuhide.
>and where his peers were.
Hideyoshi was literally rushing back to Kyoto when he heard news of the raid on Honnouji, apparently he and his underlings didn't give a shit about the missing mighty Black person warrior because their aren't any records of anyone lamenting tne Black person's loss.
He was captured in 1582 at Honnouji Temple in Kyoto by one of Nobunaga's former generals Mitsuhide. *The same place and time where Nobunaga and his son and immediate heir Nobutada were betrayed and assassinated
Would not doubt that it has to do with just more politicking. In a letter from Frois to his bosses there were apparently rumors that Nobunaga was gonna make him tono.
How would it be politicking if Nobunaga dies before he even had the chance to name Yasuke a dono. Why the frick would any of Nobunaga's senior officials go out of their way to christen some foreign Black person to a position of authority that their now deceased lord, whose word and authority they no longer need to recognize, was fond of.
*was only fond of
>How would it be politicking if Nobunaga dies before he even had the chance to name Yasuke a dono
More people who would "have a claim" to be the true successor to Nobunaga, specially if the rumor has anything that can be used as a proof like a will or any other such legally binding mandate from Nobunaga.
Nobunaga did have true succesors, his surviving sons Nobukatsu and Nobutaka literally got into a succession dispute which culminated at the Battle of Shizugatake. Yasuke was never in the piture to succeed Nobunaga.
>Yasuke was never in the piture to succeed Nobunaga.
That we know of. Anons in this thread have said it multiple times, the nig was a favorite curio of his.
The question is whether they'll represent the Samurai as the bunch of rapists and civilian murderers they were.
>5. If Yasuke is not considered a samurai, then more than 99% of Japanese people who have been classified as samurai in historical studies should not be considered samurai.
>99% of Japanese people who have been classified as samurai in historical studies should not be considered samurai.
You couldn't even name one, revisionist homosexual.
>B-b-b-ut muh Hideyoshi
That's not 99% of historical Japanese people who were classified as Samurai.
You make the mistake of thinking anyone cares about AC now nearly as much.
IGN quadrupling down
https://x.com/Puertorock77_/status/17916488745
Looks like Japanese people are quadrupling down as well
LMAO IT GOT TAKEN DOWN WYPIPO COULDN"T HANDLE A JAPANESE CUTIE SPITTIN' FACTS
What was it?
https://www.tiktok.com/@phie_hardison/video/7369545859362524446?lang=en
Like I said hapas
They're like extra mentally ill white libtards 99% of the time
Did you ignore the part where she says she can read Japanese twitter and they all agree?
And my dad works for Nintendo
see
Keep fighting the good fight!
Anyones going to see whatever they want to online. You can go to 2ch and see a mountain of people complaining.
We've seen this so many times throughout the years. The hapas come in to say "JAPAN LOVES WOKESHIT" and site a bunch of expats and westernised japs or worse koreans and chinese. Meanwhile the Japanese think the opposite. We saw it happen with Uzaki, Ishuzoku Reviewers, Uzaki again and that's of course ignoring that these people are known to lie and claim that Japanese women are really men so they can say that only men make fanservice content. When a hapa talks, you don't believe it, you mock it.
>sit your white ass down
yeah she's a woketard. don't care if she's japanese, she's a bri'ish expat, and the uk is as woke as it can get these days, even moreso than america.
Now watch rightwinds step in like leftist trannies and be all like "No no YOU should be offended"
Reminder Yasuke held a higher position than 90% of Japan as a retainer of a very influential daimyo, a role everyone would kill for at a time when honor was everything and a retainer was only given to the most loyal and trusted people.
wait. how the frick is a black man supposed to "blend in" and avoid detection/blame for deaths in old japan
The chick is gonna be the stealth character and he's going to be the action one
Even foreigners religious like Christian still be kill after nobunaga die. No need to talk about black people. No matter what sasuke is in nobunaga rule.
I gotta say all the japanese women defending Yasuke is making my penis hard. Thanks white people.
I've only seen hapas defend it
>WMAF hapa
KEK The destruction of the white race seems to have come from their women and flesh and blood. If this was an AMWF hapa, she would be furious that a black man is taking away the Asian representation in a history revolving around Asian's man culture.
To be fair, Japanese love black people, just look at Bob Sapp. What they hate are Black folk, just look at Johnny Somali.
Burgers don't know the difference between the two though, and thus here we are.
Bob Sapp is completely forgotten though
That shit was from early 2000's
>Bob Sapp is completely forgotten though
Not hated though.
Like I said, they love blacks, and hate Black folk.
>it's Renaissance Italy setting and it genuinely got me and probably thousands of other people interested in an place and area of history maybe they didn't know a lot about beforehand
thanks to the american education system, I didn't know jack shit about world history. yeah they taught us about the renaissance in broad strokes, but I didn't know who the borgias were, or the medici family, or about the byzantine-italian wars, or any of that shit. I was made aware of that shit because of asscreed. now I'm not saying that it made me into some history buff, and I'm not saying that I wouldn't have ever taken it upon myself to learn about that shit on my own at some point, but it kinda shoved it in my face during a time when I was (more of an) airheaded manchild than I already am. so with that, I agree that it used to be kinda cool. now it's dogshit because they're more concerned with wokeism than history.
Japanese history is BLACK.
You know they fricked up badly when even ResetEra isn't defending them.
So was the ultimate strategy by these israelites to pit blacks vs asians even more than usual?
reminder Ubisoft wants a 20$ a month subscription and has this game going for upwards of 120$ on day fricking one for what will inevitably be a broken buggy mess
this Yasuke shit is a smokescreen to try and distract you from their dogshit practices and it's working
It's simple.
Just kill the **ack men.
Besides homosexual op, does anyone in the thread personally know anybody that gets excited for Assassin's Creed or Ubisoft games in general? Who buys any of this slop? I wasn't going to buy the new AC with or without nobuhomie.
I FRICKING HATE Black folk! HATE! HATE! HAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEE!
I have an idea.
Let's steal all the great series starring black men like...
The Wire? Power? Cosby Show? Fresh Prince?
Thought all of you disowned cosby after... THE INCIDENT
That doesn't stop the show from being good though.
Video games?
Ooooh you wanted black people videogames.
I look forward to the all white San Andreas game and Def Jam and Shaq-Fu then.
>Ooooh you wanted black people videogames.
You're getting closer. Now notice the word "series".
>def jam isn't a series
Coulda fooled me.
>def jam isn't a series
Correct, boomer.
It IS a big slap to the face
Westerners will always seethe at Asian guys they will do every nonsensical underhanded trick and scheme to remove Asian guys from representation
Even having a game set in Japan or Asia these whiteyisraelites will try forcing a white guy or black guy instead
Why do white people always have to "defend" other people's cultures?
Why do black people always try to "steal" others' culture?
No hear me out ok? this is the same shit that happened with mexican mario, every single white woman was mad about it except the actual mexicans, who thought was pretty cool, this is just the same except that it's now white guys doing it
Of course, shoving a black for its MC in a japanese setting, with the only excuse that nobunaga had a house Black person once, during a time where you see constant race pandering in video games is TOTALLY the same as mario wearing a sombrero because he was visiting mexicoland.
That's not what I'm trying to say, I'm asking why (You) are mad about it, yes (You), it's not your culture being disrespected, it's from a country in the other side of the world, the Japanese don't seem like they're that mad about it considering that it's currently on the top 7 most sold sony products, I would understand if you were in any way connected to that country, but your just fighting and being offended over something that isn't yours, just like the white woman did with Mexican mario
I don't care about the japanese.
I just fricking hate Black folk, not racist tho.
different species tho
What does that even supposed to mean in relation to his posts? are you a bot or something? was someone this assblasted over this?
it means that they're a different species since they're the only population which is PC1 shifted (monkey shifted)
they have a ghost population DNA 30-35% which probably had 10-15IQ and produced a pure nog of 45 IQ in west africa
Yes your explaining your posts with moronic rhetoric I get it , but how is that related in any way with what he posted?
No need to try to convince me, anon. 🙂
You realize coastal Africans have been getting fricked by missionaries and colonizers for hundreds of years now?
You realize I care about them as much as they care about endangered species.
>You realize I care about them as much as I care about endangered species.
FTFY
Ask me how I know you can't tell the difference between a video game and a movie.
just saying, many have been mixed with white genes because of white mens own lust
>many
Six million?
only ""race"" to not have a bronze age, proper writing, wheel or anything really
Are you ESL or something? because that's not answering or refuting anything that I tried to say in my post
Black folk didn't exist until very recently
It's not like they have to. They just insist on it. Why do you think "white savior" is a commonly thrown around thing and not black or yellow or brown savior?
> In contrast, modern Egyptians are shifted towards sub-Saharan African populations. Model-based clustering using ADMIXTURE37 (Fig. 4b, Supplementary Fig. 4) further supports these results and reveals that the three ancient Egyptian populations differ from modern Egyptians by a relatively larger Near Eastern genetic component, in particular a component found in Neolithic Levantine ancient individuals36 (Fig. 4b). In contrast, a substantially larger sub-Saharan African component, found primarily in West-African Yoruba, is seen in modern Egyptians compared to the ancient samples
Lu Bu wasn't a warrior either but who gives a frick it's more fun with the romance version
Ubisoft's ESG rating is all the matters. Blackrock and Vanguard approves of this racism.
inb4 U.S. House of Degenerates votes to make it illegal to criticize Ubisoft's anti-white racism.
Yes, it will soon be illegal/anti-semitic to give Ubi games less than 10/10.
That only happens if they have lobbyists to push it for them.
Lobbyists only happen if they have the money to pay off those lobbyists.
Given their current stock value, we're good.
>First black Samurai
Completely ignoring wether he was or wasn't one, who the frick are the others?
There isn't any in real life, just anime and videogames.
they're being created right now
40% of non retired population will be subsaharan in 50 years
There's not enough evidence for me to believe he was a Samurai, but I do believe that he could have been made one had Nobunaga not died.
Why didn't they make a game about a black Mossad agent? Lmao.
In lore setting, human brains get moronic in cars thats why they don't do animu shit that's set post ww2 and the mossad was established in 1949.
They need to make a game about a strong, black Mossad agent so Israeli women can demand more immigration from Africa.