Millenials were born in the late 80s, zoomers after 2000, when they were 11 they played this shit, Millennials were finishing high school and going to college when oblivion came out.
This being the only type of puzzle in the game where you have to look at an item or use your brain in any way was the most insulting thing they could have done
I legit had to look this up, because it did not occur to me to literally check the key for the combination. Why the FRICK would it be on the key itself?!
The issue was that the game never had anything about item inspection in the tutorial, it's a weird misc feature that only mattered for the dragon claws. It's "look on the back of the box" tier puzzlemaking. It wouldn't have been a meme if there was a single moment in the helgen escape where you have to look at an item up close.
>it's a weird misc feature that only mattered for the dragon claws
it's not even that. the game tells you the answer; homies got filtered by the illusion of a puzzle.
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you don't have to rotate the item in your inventory because the combination is fully visible in the default camera angle. keep in mind that you have to loot the claw from the guy's corpse in the first place, so this actually forces the player to look at the combination.
that was my biggest problem too. I read the note and ended up dropping the claw on the ground to see the solution. rotating it in the UI was not obvious.
>When you have the golden claw, the solution is in the palm of your hands. >ACTIVATE MIND PALACE
>hands >hand?? >solution >dogs? >wolfhounds?? >no wait INDIANA >claw >DRAGONS?? >fly, open? >wings flap?? >open inventory! >wait these items are in 3D!!! >why is that?? TODD, GOD, ROTATE >ROTATE ITEM!! >thank you jhonson!
NTA but I didn't get it even after reading the journal.
I figured out months later that you could rotate items in the inventory.
you don't have to rotate the item in your inventory because the combination is fully visible in the default camera angle. keep in mind that you have to loot the claw from the guy's corpse in the first place, so this actually forces the player to look at the combination.
put the thing in the right order push button. Even if you are braindead and can't read or find the proper order, you can do it via elimination in about 3 minutes, since there are only 27 possible combinations.
>people complain about bethesda games being dumbed down >gamers couldn't even figure out this simple puzzle in skyrim
I don't blame them for making things more moron proof, most people are dumb as frick
A lot of anons these days weren't around at the time but yeah, it was remarkable at the time. No one had seen anything quite like it. As humble as it may be compared to puzzles in modern games, the truth is there's a reason it still gets memed about to this day while others have been long forgotten.
>No one had seen anything quite like it
Frick are you talking about moron? Resident evil has had puzzles involving examining items since the fricking beginning over a decade before skyrim, you frickin mongoloid
>Diary in the same corpse as the first claw >When you have the claw, the solution is in the palm of your hand >HMMM IN THE PALM OF MY HAND WHAT COULD THAT POSSIBLY MEAN... OH WELL ITS TOO HARD I'LL JUST BRUTE FORCE IT LOL!
are zoomers really this moronic? did they never figure it out because the game didn't put a quest marker on the text?
i never found this note or just don't remember it
its not about moronation quite the opposite
you expect the devs to put in an actual effort instead of making it easy as frick but at the same so easy that people won't believe its that lazy.
their old game redguard used the same mechanic except it would be pieces of a treasure map hidden on the back of some items you rotate in your inventory, and then you'd have to find a location on the island that matched, orient yourself with a compass, and count your steps as you move in precise directions to dig up a tool you needed to fight some magic slug necromancer homosexual
To be fair, a mechanic like this feels extremely out of place compared to the whole rest of the game. I honestly don't even know how something like this made it in but nothing else even remotely like it.
I actually don't fricking remember what I did the first time I got to this part of the game. I think I remember inspecting the dragon claw on a wim and noticing the symbols on the claw itself was the code to the door.
I didn't KNOW how to do that. I just used context clues. I knew you needed a key, and the keyhole has a symbol of a dragon claw on it, so I just assumed the key was the claw, but I wasn't sure where to get the code. I first thought it was on the walls, so I was looking at them. I will admit I think it took me a solid ten minutes to finally open the door the first time the game came out, and I played it.
It's a neat mechanic but as far as I know that's literally the only time it ever gets any use.
I think it would have been really neat to have an investigation quest where you get to inspect various items in search for clues.
I hope Starfield has better organization for the inventory. Skyrim's was a mess.
But seeing as how the crafting naming system is still in place from Fallout 4, I doubt it.
If you can't open the door without the claw key, and the combination is on the key, why even have a combination door?
Is there any mod that makes Skyrim's "puzzles" not moronic?
whats annoying is that if you didn't watch the gameplay trailers for the game you'd never have known to look underneath the claw. im also pretty sure thats the ONLY time that gimmick is used in the game.
this isnt oblivion
Millennials played morrowind you zoomer loser
Oblivion came out in 2006. Millennials also played that.
Millenials were born in the late 80s, zoomers after 2000, when they were 11 they played this shit, Millennials were finishing high school and going to college when oblivion came out.
And high schoolers never played Oblivion?
They sure did, but if you want to be a really pedantic b***h you could even say that the Millennials elder scrolls is daggerfall.
All the Elder Scrolls games before Skyrim are millennial.
Arena came out in 94, that may be a bit early for Millennials and be more Gen X
the oldest millennials were 13-14, they would have been the perfect age for a game like that
millennials were born in the early 80s
The solution being on a note that came with the claw was an ADHD check
This being the only type of puzzle in the game where you have to look at an item or use your brain in any way was the most insulting thing they could have done
I legit had to look this up, because it did not occur to me to literally check the key for the combination. Why the FRICK would it be on the key itself?!
why wouldn't the key have a keycode.
Because that would negate the point of a keycode.
clearly not considering how many Black folk got stumped by it
There's literally a note that tells you to look at the fricking claw, it's not relying on you to randomly decide to check it.
NTA but I didn't get it even after reading the journal.
I figured out months later that you could rotate items in the inventory.
source?
pic from?
The issue was that the game never had anything about item inspection in the tutorial, it's a weird misc feature that only mattered for the dragon claws. It's "look on the back of the box" tier puzzlemaking. It wouldn't have been a meme if there was a single moment in the helgen escape where you have to look at an item up close.
>it's a weird misc feature that only mattered for the dragon claws
it's not even that. the game tells you the answer; homies got filtered by the illusion of a puzzle.
I actually looked at the claw but didnt know you could rotate items because pc didnt have the prompt
consolegays didnt beat the game
You can literally see the patterns on the claw. How did other people not see it?
The game never indicates at any point that you can rotate the item previews in your inventory, especially not on MKB
that was my biggest problem too. I read the note and ended up dropping the claw on the ground to see the solution. rotating it in the UI was not obvious.
they literally showcase it in their e3 presentation
you are the type of Black person that needs to be gatekept from voting with iq checks
Not everyone watched e3
you don't have to rotate the item in your inventory because the combination is fully visible in the default camera angle. keep in mind that you have to loot the claw from the guy's corpse in the first place, so this actually forces the player to look at the combination.
release day footage. not patched in.
i still don't get it
Wait a minute that claw...
Wait a minute that untouched grass... I can't quite put my finger on it...
>wait a minute that claw..
analyse the journal jhonson!
>This blew millennials minds
What?
I played Mist motherfricker you don't know shit about my puzzle solving abilities.
solve op's puzzle then. smartass
put the thing in the right order push button. Even if you are braindead and can't read or find the proper order, you can do it via elimination in about 3 minutes, since there are only 27 possible combinations.
pretty sure it broke a bunch of Gankeredditor minds
so many threads of mouthbreathing morons getting stuck
i spent almost an hour checking out the pictures on the walls for solution and then i found out you just have to fricking turn it around
>people complain about bethesda games being dumbed down
>gamers couldn't even figure out this simple puzzle in skyrim
I don't blame them for making things more moron proof, most people are dumb as frick
thats the thing
it was that much dumbed down not even dumbasses would expect such moronic solution in RPG
>zoomer makes fun of his own generation
how sad!
A lot of anons these days weren't around at the time but yeah, it was remarkable at the time. No one had seen anything quite like it. As humble as it may be compared to puzzles in modern games, the truth is there's a reason it still gets memed about to this day while others have been long forgotten.
>As humble as it may be compared to puzzles in modern games
>No one had seen anything quite like it
Frick are you talking about moron? Resident evil has had puzzles involving examining items since the fricking beginning over a decade before skyrim, you frickin mongoloid
Zoomers triggered by the truth in your post
Zoomer*
WAIT A MINUTE THAT CARD
>people mocked shitfinite for this
>same people got stumped by it in skyrim
based draugrs implementing IQ checks to keep the cattle out
It was more about mocking journalists
the only people i've seen complain about this are on this board
waydaminnit....
>Diary in the same corpse as the first claw
>When you have the claw, the solution is in the palm of your hand
>HMMM IN THE PALM OF MY HAND WHAT COULD THAT POSSIBLY MEAN... OH WELL ITS TOO HARD I'LL JUST BRUTE FORCE IT LOL!
are zoomers really this moronic? did they never figure it out because the game didn't put a quest marker on the text?
You're assuming normalgays read the journals and books. They don't.
“In the palm of your hand” is usually a metaphor. Sorry not everyone is autistic
i never found this note or just don't remember it
its not about moronation quite the opposite
you expect the devs to put in an actual effort instead of making it easy as frick but at the same so easy that people won't believe its that lazy.
but at the same time people didn't expect it to be that lazy**
>nords made the puzzles easy to keep the barely sentient draugr trapped
>no, nords actually made the puzzles to "keep the unworthy away"
which one is it?
both because the average Gankeredditor is just a trench chasing zombie addicted to FOTM(or is it week now)
It's to keep the elves out. Have you seen any... elves?
nords made the puzzles to piss off elves who will over think their purpose
This is the most difficult puzzle a nord could come up with
Draugr are unworthy
>When you have the golden claw, the solution is in the palm of your hands.
>ACTIVATE MIND PALACE
>hands
>hand??
>solution
>dogs?
>wolfhounds??
>no wait INDIANA
>claw
>DRAGONS??
>fly, open?
>wings flap??
>open inventory!
>wait these items are in 3D!!!
>why is that?? TODD, GOD, ROTATE
>ROTATE ITEM!!
>thank you jhonson!
their old game redguard used the same mechanic except it would be pieces of a treasure map hidden on the back of some items you rotate in your inventory, and then you'd have to find a location on the island that matched, orient yourself with a compass, and count your steps as you move in precise directions to dig up a tool you needed to fight some magic slug necromancer homosexual
some things skyrim did good by simplifying
To be fair, a mechanic like this feels extremely out of place compared to the whole rest of the game. I honestly don't even know how something like this made it in but nothing else even remotely like it.
Best Skyrim “puzzles” is when there’s a hidden path you have to discover in the environment
All the actual puzzles are super lame
I actually don't fricking remember what I did the first time I got to this part of the game. I think I remember inspecting the dragon claw on a wim and noticing the symbols on the claw itself was the code to the door.
I didn't KNOW how to do that. I just used context clues. I knew you needed a key, and the keyhole has a symbol of a dragon claw on it, so I just assumed the key was the claw, but I wasn't sure where to get the code. I first thought it was on the walls, so I was looking at them. I will admit I think it took me a solid ten minutes to finally open the door the first time the game came out, and I played it.
SKyrim is a zoomer game
It's zillennial. Zoomers haven't played it.
Let me guess you also think zoomers grew up with craig of the creek?
zillenial is way too late for that
yeah, those are more so who I was referring to and maybe earlier zoomers
Zillennialspammer frick off
It's a neat mechanic but as far as I know that's literally the only time it ever gets any use.
I think it would have been really neat to have an investigation quest where you get to inspect various items in search for clues.
There are other claws in the game
I hope Starfield has better organization for the inventory. Skyrim's was a mess.
But seeing as how the crafting naming system is still in place from Fallout 4, I doubt it.
literally nobody praised skyrim's puzzles
why are zoomers so insecure they need to invent some blatant historical revisionism?
Skyrim invented wheel puzzles
>27 combinations
this puzzle taught normies more about brute force attacks than any other lesson on earth
I brute force locks in dishonored if I don't have the code (1000 combinations)
game?
The best game of all time, Skyrim
>tfw after long enough it becomes faster to brute force the puzzle than to shuffle through your inventory, find the right claw, and spin it around
I did not know I could look at the claw in my inventory, and had to look it up.
Are we still pretending that Skyrim isn't a great game?
how would you solve this?
Solve? To what end? Spending more time and money on AI and animations? I don't fricking think so.
>got to experience Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim on release
>zoomers have only replayed Skyrim over and over
What a doomed generation
If you can't open the door without the claw key, and the combination is on the key, why even have a combination door?
Is there any mod that makes Skyrim's "puzzles" not moronic?
>2011
Skyrim is a zoomer game
The millenial elder scrolls is oblivion
Millennial Elder Scrolls is Morrowind
Morrowind and Oblivion are both millennial.
You can brute force them? Howmst?
Three rows, each with three possibilities. That's not very many combinations. First try 1 1 1, then 1 1 2, then 1 1 3, 1 2 3, 1 3 3, etc.
>still makes Ganker seethe 12 years later
you love to see it
whats annoying is that if you didn't watch the gameplay trailers for the game you'd never have known to look underneath the claw. im also pretty sure thats the ONLY time that gimmick is used in the game.
Only one reason to play Skyrim in 2023 tbh
Where are the animals?
Animals are okay but aside from the wolf stuff most animations are pretty meh and barely worth the hassle of fiddling with the positioning
i had the pirated version on release that wouldn't let you rotate the items so i brute forced it