>boo hoo hoo gay freak didnt plug me for using my shitty remix with a drumkit or something over their own music it is art please believe me
Saria's Song dubstep
>some incoherent brainfart non-sequitur from a brazilian dipshit
>some actual talent
Shitfreak doesn't have any actual talent either, corporated wienersucker troony.
>muh troony boogeyman
You are basically a bot, definitely unworthy of being considered a human being. I'm glad we agree that bellyaching over some uninspired loser's derivative remix that is devoid of any artistic meeit is supremely moronic. Good talk, little guy.
I don’t think you know what the term boogeyman means.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You complain about trannies when it makes no sense. You see them haunting you everywhere, ergo they are your boogeyman. It's the tritest comeback on nu-cuckchan.
>moronic politically-incorrect bonjour mutt from a oniontown midtwit
You complain about trannies when it makes no sense. You see them haunting you everywhere, ergo they are your boogeyman. It's the tritest comeback on nu-cuckchan.
>he had no idea and use "lawlet" anyway
We knew. Shitfreak shills are iliterate and violent.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What's their problem with having all the Pokemon available?
9 months ago
Anonymous
lmao totally insane morons. they want people who disagree with them to die. have the pervert flags. and use the sexist slur.
lmao. obsessed and rent free. bring back the national dex. why was it ever taken away
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Wishing schools/workplaces get shot up because someone on twitter criticized a multi-billion dollar childrens franchise
Twittertrannies are psychotic. Any time someone tells me they use Twitter I think less of them
You're complaining about copyright when the loser who made the remix doesn't own the copyright for the source material nor did he meaningfully alter it. What a clown.
Read your own source >The fair use defense to copyright infringement under Section 107 of U.S. copyright law is much broader than international fair use provisions. International fair use exemptions tend to be more specific in nature.
Fair use means you have the right to use copyrighted works in your own works so long as they are not the main or sole focus (I.e., selling official artwork as your own). It does NOT mean you are entitled to compensation of the property owner decides to add your fanfiction to the canon.
They own the Pokemon franchise and all related materiel including designs, music, and so on. If they so wanted, they could C&D every piece of fan-made media, legally, with no scruples other than homosexuals on /vp/ whining.
TPC writes in their website legal section that any fan use of Pokemon content is technically considered an implied agreement that TPC owns all Pokemon content, including fan modifications. The method here is questionable but there is precedent for it in the law.
Therefore TPC uses, in this case, a remix of their song made by a fan, and claims that as the original was their song, the remix is too because of the theoretical agreement.
This angers people who were already mad at Gamefreak
The irony here being that the majority of said song uses a VST or similar sound bank, so it's a stupid discussion to start with. >Nooo! You copied the sound that I copied from a library!
>support the crybaby twittergay, you’re a bleeding heart troony >mock the crybaby twittergay, you’re a bootlicking troony
The only winning move is not to dilate
Explain how Im a troony again while Im raping your mothers hairy unwashed pussy you little cum-shit hybrid homosexual. Gouge out your weepy brown eyes you muttoid wiener guzzling troonspawn
The simple explanation is that companies can request to take down your fan works. Most companies don't, because most room temperature and above IQs understand that it's literally free advertising.
This is the non-commercial "license" granted to you.
Though, if you're like and are selling your Pokeporn, then you'll invite TPC to come slap you down. Notice however, in his C&D, that they explicitly only target websites where he was making money from. (Draw our stuff, advertise it for free, but don't you dare make money off of it.)
All these armchair lawyers talking about fair use and quoting sections of copyright law they don't understand, fail to understand that most precedent for Fair Use involved cases of works that weren't explicitly protected, only implicit (ie: photographs, youtube videos, etc.). You have an intrinsic ownership of things like photographs and the like, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about works derived from protected properties, like characters, etc.
Now, let's see who's right. The furry artist making Pokemon, or Patreon suspending his account due to a C&D from TPC/Nintendo? The answer is the latter. This isn't me corpo-shilling. This is just fact. You can see it from the artist's response.
COULD you fight it? You might be able to, if it were solely non-commercial and private. The latter part is important too, as if you're seen drawing any benefit from use of other's copyrighted works, that is a factor.
The problem is, you don't have the legal training for court procedures, so now you're spending tens of thousands of dollars retaining someone who can.
Yes, non-commercial porn has been a thing for decades. You start getting into problems when you start selling it. Notice how they only hit his Patreon, not his FA,IB,etc.
My issue is that people are claiming 'if you make fan content, that company automatically owns it and can do whatever they want with it. Including selling it!' which is not the case, despite the implication in TPCi's vague legal-disclaimer. They can totally ask you to desist and (at least in the US) have the government destroy the infringing piece under certain circumstances (even privately owned content if it's existence is known, depending the circumstances) but they themselves cannot profit off something without compensating the creator.
Then you have people poking in any loopholes they think MIGHT be applicable (like it's a foreign company, with different regulations in their homestead) without actually understanding what they're actually saying in-context because they want either Pokemon or Corporations in general to be the good guys, squeezing the money out of the 'losers' because of blind allegiance to fandom or the saddest power fantasies imaginable.
Name one time where a company was forced to compensate someone for fan works that were then taken by the company. Third world shitholes in Africa/South America don't count.
Friendly reminder that only a handful of artists actually got DMCA'd (and we don't /really/ know if they were legit), and there are still loads of people posting pokemon and other ip behind patreon walls to this day.
Yeah, this board is full of underage poltards who can't not think about mutilated homosexuals in drag for two seconds to brush up on their legalese or general reading comprehension. All this b***hing about Gay Freak for some talentless literally who moron without an ounce of imagination, too, instead of sticking to valid criticisms.
lmao. that sure describes the clown cult. think of all the pathetic slurs they tried to create for normal people: the VHS slur, the Nerf slur, the sexist slur and etc.
and yet...
they seethe and ape out if you insult an orc or a hook nose. lmao tolerant people for sure
The gay who made the music should be happy that he actually had something to do with the official game now, him b***hing about it just shows that he only wanted money, so he didnt even make it out of passion. Also, all twitter trannies function on likes from outrage tweets because they're subhuman worms so he b***hed about it for the likes and retweets because he's a twitter troony. He could have tried to leverage them using his work by acting grateful to be apart of their work and act like it was an opportunity, but instead he b***hed and created outrage immediately without thinking and destroyed any chance he had to further work with them officially in any capacity. Nice job homosexual moron twitter troony. Now you'll just be forgotten as a b***hing twitter troony because you pounced on the outrage likes like a greedy homosexual troony.
Why does /vp/ love to shill so excessively hard for soulless megacorporation like this?
Gamefreak/TPCi could announce that anyone that plays their games is going to get their organs repossessed by them because reasons and you utter morons would cheer it on and praise it to no end.
What the actual frick is wrong with you all?
A basic understanding of the English language would show you that the EULA applies to people who use the product, not as a condition of you purchasing it.
>brainlet didn't get the point of that episode
They were criticising people who put their names to contracts without reading them, imbecile. Every single time Kyle 'agreed to the terms' he is in no question shown to be in the wrong.
Sure, it's considered a "contract", but TOS and EULA are notorious for being overturned unlike actual contracts. (Especially the ones that demand arbitration before you engage in a lawsuit.) They have nowhere near the enforceability of an actual written contract. That's part of the layers that the show is poking fun at; these terms can add in the most asinine and stupid shit to them and they're effectively meaningless. Though, I'd imagine since you think you're not a "brainlet" that you certainly noticed that the characters who disagreed with the terms of service simply continued to use their devices without issue (unlike in the real world, where the application/device shuts down or refuses to proceed), right?
9 months ago
Anonymous
They get overturned when they directly violate existing statute. Nothing about GF laying claim to fan works violates the law.
it's not shilling because i can't be bothered to care about some whiny homosexual with no creativity getting butthurt from no official plug when all he did was remix some existing shit and maybe threw a couple noises he bought licenses for. this is manufactured twitter drama predicated on a lack of knowledge of copyright law. complain about a real fricking issue, moron. pokemon franchise has plenty of them, but this isn't one.
He's not though?
None of the autistic sperging I've seen on /vp/ over this has been over stuff that has actually happened, 99% of it has been over entirely fabricated scenarios /vp/ made up in their heads like a bunch of schizos
Jesus christ you people are deranged.
it's the assumption to make when people approach this from strictly a legal standpoint and not out of brand loyalty or something, then some knuckle-dragging morons start grunting about shills. i would say that is more than implicit endorsement of whatever literal who's are crying on twitter.
>99% of it has been over entirely fabricated scenarios /vp/ made up in their heads like a bunch of schizos
yeah, like dumbasses thinking there are any grounds for this to make it to court and not be laughed out of the room immediately. if you want to waste your energy looking stupid rather than complain about a tangible problem with the franchise, be my guest.
it is standard language. And no if you actually knew court precedents and legal terms this doesn't mean the reddittor or literal who youtuber can't sue. For all of their twitter posts and horseshit they have yet to get an attorney and file a complaint because they know that Nintendo and Game freak have tons of documentation the designs predate their shit and they would be BTFO and on the hook for their lawyer/
>some money-grubbing career-charlatan israelite >bad parents blaming their bad parenting on happy meal toys >lawsuit against all tcg manufacturers, not just pokemon tcg rights holders >it's literally nothing
>make porn >sell it without permission >get shitcanned
There's plenty of free porn out there they've just *left* alone (it's usually the artists themselves spacking out seeking takedowns). Figures you'd cry once again Nintendo almost sent you to a gulag over selling your dogfricker comic kurodod.
>boo hoo hoo gay freak didnt plug me for using my shitty remix with a drumkit or something over their own music it is art please believe me
Saria's Song dubstep
It's not legal.
>boo hoo daddy shitfreak is doing something illegal someone pointed out?! I'm getting genocided!
have a nice day, shill.
cracked egg
>t. lawlet
Cry me a fricking river and maybe cultivate some actual talent, you creatively bankrupt moron.
>forced cetitan
What are you gay pedo.
>some incoherent brainfart non-sequitur from a brazilian dipshit
>muh troony boogeyman
You are basically a bot, definitely unworthy of being considered a human being. I'm glad we agree that bellyaching over some uninspired loser's derivative remix that is devoid of any artistic meeit is supremely moronic. Good talk, little guy.
I don’t think you know what the term boogeyman means.
You complain about trannies when it makes no sense. You see them haunting you everywhere, ergo they are your boogeyman. It's the tritest comeback on nu-cuckchan.
>moronic politically-incorrect bonjour mutt from a oniontown midtwit
speak it for yourself goy.
>some actual talent
Shitfreak doesn't have any actual talent either, corporated wienersucker troony.
troony and furry, does that make the 51% cap out at 100%?
>lawlet
Oh, the irony, illiterate bootlicker. Read the fricking american copyright law and then come over here.
Sure, let me just take my legal advice from some brown 14-year-old on vp. Logically sound.
>he had no idea and use "lawlet" anyway
We knew. Shitfreak shills are iliterate and violent.
What's their problem with having all the Pokemon available?
lmao totally insane morons. they want people who disagree with them to die. have the pervert flags. and use the sexist slur.
lmao. obsessed and rent free. bring back the national dex. why was it ever taken away
>Wishing schools/workplaces get shot up because someone on twitter criticized a multi-billion dollar childrens franchise
Twittertrannies are psychotic. Any time someone tells me they use Twitter I think less of them
>some actual talent
Stealing songs isn't a talent.
Defendinfg big corporations isn't a talent.
Trannies and furries in general.
>t. la-ACK!
https://copyrightresource.uw.edu/copyright-law/international-copyright-law/
Read. Find it for yourself.
You're complaining about copyright when the loser who made the remix doesn't own the copyright for the source material nor did he meaningfully alter it. What a clown.
Read your own source
>The fair use defense to copyright infringement under Section 107 of U.S. copyright law is much broader than international fair use provisions. International fair use exemptions tend to be more specific in nature.
Fair use means you have the right to use copyrighted works in your own works so long as they are not the main or sole focus (I.e., selling official artwork as your own). It does NOT mean you are entitled to compensation of the property owner decides to add your fanfiction to the canon.
What a moronic sperg
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO CARE ABOUT THE homosexual THAT SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE FRANCHISE
qrd?
>fans were criticizing SwSh for being shit
>some fanboy spergs out because they were making fun of his beloved billion dollar franchise
>troony shills WILL defend corpo doing illegal shit
Hybristophilia
woke useful idiots (lgbtq, minorities, feminists) will now defend this corporatism as now it furthers the marxist agenda
why is vp so antisemitic all of a sudden
The goyim know, Shekelberg
GET OUT israelite WHILE YOU CAN
Shills sees Pokémon as a religion and Gamefreak as fricking priests.
Still not legal, prostitute. :^)
Nice headcanon, as they say.
They own the Pokemon franchise and all related materiel including designs, music, and so on. If they so wanted, they could C&D every piece of fan-made media, legally, with no scruples other than homosexuals on /vp/ whining.
Still legal in my state, b***h XD
Is there even any proof GF used the remix? The Direct sounded just like the in game Area Zero music.
TLDR please
I got things to do
>I got things to do
Get out of /vp/, then. Don't waste your time.
TPC writes in their website legal section that any fan use of Pokemon content is technically considered an implied agreement that TPC owns all Pokemon content, including fan modifications. The method here is questionable but there is precedent for it in the law.
Therefore TPC uses, in this case, a remix of their song made by a fan, and claims that as the original was their song, the remix is too because of the theoretical agreement.
This angers people who were already mad at Gamefreak
The irony here being that the majority of said song uses a VST or similar sound bank, so it's a stupid discussion to start with.
>Nooo! You copied the sound that I copied from a library!
>support the crybaby twittergay, you’re a bleeding heart troony
>mock the crybaby twittergay, you’re a bootlicking troony
The only winning move is not to dilate
>crybaby
He said it was an honor. How is that even "crying", troony shill?
He mention TPC israelites didn't let them use the song anymore.
Explain how Im a troony again while Im raping your mothers hairy unwashed pussy you little cum-shit hybrid homosexual. Gouge out your weepy brown eyes you muttoid wiener guzzling troonspawn
And you don't sound like a lawyer. Stay in your lane.
What's not legal about it? Read the bottom line.
If you think it isn't legal, go have a long talk with the Oversexed Eeveelutions dude.
The simple explanation is that companies can request to take down your fan works. Most companies don't, because most room temperature and above IQs understand that it's literally free advertising.
This is the non-commercial "license" granted to you.
Though, if you're like and are selling your Pokeporn, then you'll invite TPC to come slap you down. Notice however, in his C&D, that they explicitly only target websites where he was making money from. (Draw our stuff, advertise it for free, but don't you dare make money off of it.)
All these armchair lawyers talking about fair use and quoting sections of copyright law they don't understand, fail to understand that most precedent for Fair Use involved cases of works that weren't explicitly protected, only implicit (ie: photographs, youtube videos, etc.). You have an intrinsic ownership of things like photographs and the like, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about works derived from protected properties, like characters, etc.
Now, let's see who's right. The furry artist making Pokemon, or Patreon suspending his account due to a C&D from TPC/Nintendo? The answer is the latter. This isn't me corpo-shilling. This is just fact. You can see it from the artist's response.
COULD you fight it? You might be able to, if it were solely non-commercial and private. The latter part is important too, as if you're seen drawing any benefit from use of other's copyrighted works, that is a factor.
The problem is, you don't have the legal training for court procedures, so now you're spending tens of thousands of dollars retaining someone who can.
Porn parodies have been a thing for decades, he just doesn't have the money to fight it.
Yes, non-commercial porn has been a thing for decades. You start getting into problems when you start selling it. Notice how they only hit his Patreon, not his FA,IB,etc.
Men.com has done a gay porn parody of pokemon and you need a subscription to access it
Remember when they filed a dmca against rule 34, because they released pokemon X and searching pokemon X linked straight to porn?
That's why most the sites link pokemon to Porkymen or something similar. Like overwatch as overlook etc.
There are still doujins that come out where they're called Pkmon and the like too.
I'm not going to ask why you know the intricacies of gay porn.
My issue is that people are claiming 'if you make fan content, that company automatically owns it and can do whatever they want with it. Including selling it!' which is not the case, despite the implication in TPCi's vague legal-disclaimer. They can totally ask you to desist and (at least in the US) have the government destroy the infringing piece under certain circumstances (even privately owned content if it's existence is known, depending the circumstances) but they themselves cannot profit off something without compensating the creator.
Then you have people poking in any loopholes they think MIGHT be applicable (like it's a foreign company, with different regulations in their homestead) without actually understanding what they're actually saying in-context because they want either Pokemon or Corporations in general to be the good guys, squeezing the money out of the 'losers' because of blind allegiance to fandom or the saddest power fantasies imaginable.
Name one time where a company was forced to compensate someone for fan works that were then taken by the company. Third world shitholes in Africa/South America don't count.
Friendly reminder that only a handful of artists actually got DMCA'd (and we don't /really/ know if they were legit), and there are still loads of people posting pokemon and other ip behind patreon walls to this day.
Friendly reminder that an absence of action doesn't absolve your acts.
wasn't it confirmed that this DMCA was submitted by a troll unaffiliated with Nintendo/TPCi?
Holy lawyer jargon run on
Oh, you homosexuals want to take TPC to court for a half a second sound effect at the end of their trailer? Thats hilarious.
You know it'll happen.
>This doesn’t sound legal.
actually it is legal and pretty standard. Sometimes i forget the average age of this board.
It's like when most people actually read terms and services.
Yeah, this board is full of underage poltards who can't not think about mutilated homosexuals in drag for two seconds to brush up on their legalese or general reading comprehension. All this b***hing about Gay Freak for some talentless literally who moron without an ounce of imagination, too, instead of sticking to valid criticisms.
>poltards
The opposite, actually.
>these threads
lmao. that sure describes the clown cult. think of all the pathetic slurs they tried to create for normal people: the VHS slur, the Nerf slur, the sexist slur and etc.
and yet...
they seethe and ape out if you insult an orc or a hook nose. lmao tolerant people for sure
The gay who made the music should be happy that he actually had something to do with the official game now, him b***hing about it just shows that he only wanted money, so he didnt even make it out of passion. Also, all twitter trannies function on likes from outrage tweets because they're subhuman worms so he b***hed about it for the likes and retweets because he's a twitter troony. He could have tried to leverage them using his work by acting grateful to be apart of their work and act like it was an opportunity, but instead he b***hed and created outrage immediately without thinking and destroyed any chance he had to further work with them officially in any capacity. Nice job homosexual moron twitter troony. Now you'll just be forgotten as a b***hing twitter troony because you pounced on the outrage likes like a greedy homosexual troony.
Pokemon fans hold tpci/game freak to a facsimile of a standard challenge: impossible
Why does /vp/ love to shill so excessively hard for soulless megacorporation like this?
Gamefreak/TPCi could announce that anyone that plays their games is going to get their organs repossessed by them because reasons and you utter morons would cheer it on and praise it to no end.
What the actual frick is wrong with you all?
You agreed to the terms!
I didn't. I pirated it.
>b-but that's illeg-
I don't care.
We have a board here for it
>>>/t/
Adapt to site culture or gtfo you clown.
A basic understanding of the English language would show you that the EULA applies to people who use the product, not as a condition of you purchasing it.
>brainlet didn't get the point of that episode
They were criticising people who put their names to contracts without reading them, imbecile. Every single time Kyle 'agreed to the terms' he is in no question shown to be in the wrong.
>contacts
No, terms of service, much like what the OP posted.
And every single imbecile's agreed to them here.
Terms of Service are a type of contract. a contract is any sort of official binding agreement.
Sure, it's considered a "contract", but TOS and EULA are notorious for being overturned unlike actual contracts. (Especially the ones that demand arbitration before you engage in a lawsuit.) They have nowhere near the enforceability of an actual written contract. That's part of the layers that the show is poking fun at; these terms can add in the most asinine and stupid shit to them and they're effectively meaningless. Though, I'd imagine since you think you're not a "brainlet" that you certainly noticed that the characters who disagreed with the terms of service simply continued to use their devices without issue (unlike in the real world, where the application/device shuts down or refuses to proceed), right?
They get overturned when they directly violate existing statute. Nothing about GF laying claim to fan works violates the law.
it's not shilling because i can't be bothered to care about some whiny homosexual with no creativity getting butthurt from no official plug when all he did was remix some existing shit and maybe threw a couple noises he bought licenses for. this is manufactured twitter drama predicated on a lack of knowledge of copyright law. complain about a real fricking issue, moron. pokemon franchise has plenty of them, but this isn't one.
He's not though?
None of the autistic sperging I've seen on /vp/ over this has been over stuff that has actually happened, 99% of it has been over entirely fabricated scenarios /vp/ made up in their heads like a bunch of schizos
Jesus christ you people are deranged.
it's the assumption to make when people approach this from strictly a legal standpoint and not out of brand loyalty or something, then some knuckle-dragging morons start grunting about shills. i would say that is more than implicit endorsement of whatever literal who's are crying on twitter.
>99% of it has been over entirely fabricated scenarios /vp/ made up in their heads like a bunch of schizos
yeah, like dumbasses thinking there are any grounds for this to make it to court and not be laughed out of the room immediately. if you want to waste your energy looking stupid rather than complain about a tangible problem with the franchise, be my guest.
it is standard language. And no if you actually knew court precedents and legal terms this doesn't mean the reddittor or literal who youtuber can't sue. For all of their twitter posts and horseshit they have yet to get an attorney and file a complaint because they know that Nintendo and Game freak have tons of documentation the designs predate their shit and they would be BTFO and on the hook for their lawyer/
>Gamefreak CAN! DO! NO! WRONG! and they would never ever be sued by anyon-
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_controversy#Lawsuits
>some money-grubbing career-charlatan israelite
>bad parents blaming their bad parenting on happy meal toys
>lawsuit against all tcg manufacturers, not just pokemon tcg rights holders
>it's literally nothing
Need an edit of that Kadabra image doing the middle finger.
>lawsuit dropped after 20 years after massive fan backlash
Yeah bro, he sure showed GameFreak.
>~~*His*~~ first comments on the issue are about how rare his card will be.
Sleazy frick.
>taking advantage
of what? Using their own song?
Of course they wont get in trouble for using their own song lol.
Ew, a commie. Hide your stuff so it doesn't try and collectivise your property.
>Make Fan Art
>Nintendo BTFO's you
Such many cases
>make porn
>sell it without permission
>get shitcanned
There's plenty of free porn out there they've just *left* alone (it's usually the artists themselves spacking out seeking takedowns). Figures you'd cry once again Nintendo almost sent you to a gulag over selling your dogfricker comic kurodod.
I hope people drag them to court to at least annoy them