This game has fully blackpilled me on commercial gaming. There is no way people play this and enjoy it. It has no mechanics of any kind, it just strives for sensory overload and is somehow worse than every dumb idle game. And why do I recognize so many sprites from castlevania games?
Who ate this up. For what people is this? Are zoomers so moronic that they will just play colors shining randomly for hours?
This is by far the biggest definition of soulless I have ever seen. It makes me sad.
it's just haha numbers go big type of game taken to extreme
play holocure instead, it's even free
But if vampire survivors is for bugmen npcs then holocure by definition is the most bugmen game imaginable because it has vtubers in it, which are only liked by subhumans
>But if vampire survivors is for bugmen npcs
>Know one that ran it for 100+ hours
Damn, you really hit the nail on the head there.
why did it take over the world then? why has it gotten so many awards etc (I know they don't matter, but it is indicative of how public percieves Vampire Survivors)
Also I won't play Hoe-girlve because games like this are literal satan
>why did it take over the world then? why has it gotten so many awards etc
why did among us? It's just fricking playground mafia in flash tier video game form. Answer is, goys like their goyslop simple. Netflix with buttons/games on PS5 are also very popular
okay what is a good game
noita
oh le epic voxel sandbox with roguelike design going back to 80s multi user systems. truly groundbreaking.
name 1 other game with extensive dynamically customizable weapon effects and every world pixel physically simulated with full elemental interactions like water producing steam when boiled with fire, that itself also has gameplay affecting properties. Don't forget parallel worlds and multiple hidden worlds beyond the normal descent into the mines, including the sky. Endgame has to involve travelling a collective billion IRL miles to literally give birth to the moon and the sun.
I won't wait, because you can't.
truly groundbreaking. Thanks for agreeing with me
NetHack
>turn-based
>physics
go suck Black person wieners when you're done baiting, homosexual.
what, it has all these things. and it had them since the 80s. and it's not that fun because either it's an endless trial-and-error, or you look up spoilers.
Sounds like the classic shitty indie game too full of itself. Dev should've written a novel instead.
This falls apart when you consider that the level design is just randomly generated shafts meant to facilitate an endless and shallow gameplay loop for the sole purpose of wasting the players time. The devs previous game, Environmental Station Alpha, managed to create a better trove of secrets with none of the shitty baggage that comes with designing a roguelike, it has actual intelligent boss, enemy, and level design.
Noita is terrible. I don't understand how people like that shit.
among us actually has some design and thought put into it. Not saying its a good game, but VS is just particle effects and bigger numbers.
I said I hate consumer sentiment of "game cheap so who cares" and you told me to go back to cod which is definition of consumer slop
what the frick does that have to do with the "influence" of vampire survivors or whatever the frick you were whining about? dude, VS is not coming into your basement to take your video games away.
yeah, you're right, I just don't want it to dominate indie space in the way that roguelikes or metroidvanias do.
it doesn't
there's only a few clones, and they're significantly better than Vampire Survivors with more actual gameplay
which isn't true either. bro get off Ganker and just play games. you're catching the fricking brainrot.
Unironically go touch grass. Normal people and gamers don't think like this.
>it's popular so I hate it now
every time
I bet you were spamming "mogs every single AAA game" when it was in EA lol.
Same reason cookie clicker did. It's the same genre and everything
nah that's true idle games like cookie clicker. If you're counting with decimal notation instead of some variant of scientific notation your numbers aint big enough
Its fine to play as mobile game to kill time cause i dont need internet connection to play it
It's fun
Why? Genuinely asking - I'm completely stumped at prospect of this game. Maybe I just expect too much from games
The fun is intrinsic, it cannot be explained or reasoned, only experienced.
soulful design leaves you constantly wondering what's next. learning the system, then breaking it, then putting it back together. good music. it's a novel game well made, that's all.
Maybe because different people like different things. Simple as
It's like a tower defence game where there is only one tower. The choices you make are the interesting parts. Positioning is the gameplay mechanic until you are overpowered enough to just afk a run. There is a story progression as well. Until you do that you shouldn't be mindlessly doing runs.
>actual creative idea gains traction
>Gankerirgins shit and piss themselves for literally no reason
many such cases. and it's always this "muh gameplay" thing. as if you're not doing a WoW rotation it's not a game. frick off.
holy shit what creative idea? Tell me one creative thing about the game please
you are right anon
all of it. it's a genre definer for a reason.
shmup where all you do is move and navigate many enemies around you
So SmashTv.
you mean the game where you have to press the button to shoot? which was EXACTLY what the person you replied to was saying that VS did differently because it removes that element to focus purely on movement and optimal item combinations instead
Nooooo you have to explain why the game is good you can't just say it without explaining noooooo
Saying X pilled is so fricking cringe, I hope you know this and I hope you grow out of it when you are out of your teens.
This winning the game of the year was the moment I lost all interest in games. Next they're going to give one to a fricking pachinko machine.
>gamblingposter is back
Legitimately autistic
are you mad? this is literally made by a slot machine dev. you are a gambling addicted freak
>It has no mechanics of any kind,
how have you played games for decades but still not understood that a large part of the appeal of games is gaining power, levelling up, getting new equipment etc.
this game very much fulfils that aspect.
you dance about to good music, whilst trying to not die early on as you purposely cripple yourself so you can gain strength so that you can faceroll later. this is the essence of every jrpg ever
the only reason anyone plays this for hours is when they still have things to unlock, new stages, new heroes etc. after that point, they will not play for hours they'll play 1-2 rounds and stop every time.
Yes, but large part of appeal of games is gaining power, leveling up, getting new equipment THROUGH your creativity, skills or etc. This game cuts out the middleman and is just number increasing game. Hence why I compared it to idle games - There are idle games with more thought put into than this
No? There's no creativity in opening a chest and getting a new weapon or something generally. It's unfortunately rare that item combinations are required for specific min maxing builds in most rpgs.
Your skill is not dying. Everyone that plays fails to beat the first stage a bunch of times first. Everyone died to milk factory stage a bunch of times. Then you unlock ways to increase the difficulty as you go, every single time I boot up a stage now when a new dlc or update is out, unless I play the busted queen character I almost die for the first few minutes. Without fail, I am low health, I am always after chicken, until you hit your breakpoint for a weapon upgrade and then you start to snowball.
If you suck ass for those few minutes, you just lose and don't reach the fun part. Seems like gameplay to me
It's 75% an idle game
There's a small amount of decision making and dodging involved
People enjoy growing stronger even if they aren't actually putting in any real work to get there
It's fake fun, but it's still fun to some people
>real work
>fake fun
again, why the frick do you Black folk think you own video games? what is this hubris? who the frick are you to tell me this?
What do you mean own video games?
real games ask the player to solve a problem or display some skill to succeed
you put in work and get the reward
this is good and natural
fake games give you the illusion that you're doing something and then give you the reward for free
this is unnatural, it's like fast food for your brain
because it is literally you, and nothing else, defining realness in this case. and then you have the gall to inflict this definition on the rest of us. newsflash for you here frickboy: no video games are real, and nobody has to give a shit about your moronic opinions, which all that they are. fricking referring to the natural law of video games or some shit, like what the actual frick.
do you really need me to lay it out for you why work -> reward is good and illusion of work -> reward is bad for your psychology?
work? what the frick? VIDEO GAMES anon. GAMES. PLAY. get a job or some shit if you want to work.
human brains are wired to enjoy the process of doing work to get a reward. that's why people enjoy these games. but the work the game makes you do is mindless, you don't have to do any problem solving or have any skills, so you're just getting the reward
straight into the broscience, huh? you're a moron who is desperately trying to justify their video games habits as "natural" or some shit 'cuz you can't admit to yourself that you enjoy virtual dollhouses, or whatever the frick you play.
that's not bro science, that's real science
kiddo, you're playing video GAMES and then telling yourself it's fulfilling work. you are willfully missing the point of play just to have something to fill your sad, empty existence. seriously. look at what you're fricking saying.
I don't need to play games to fill my sad empty existence though
No, but you clearly need to shitpost on Ganker to fill your sad empty existence.
then why are you so desperate to give them some greater purpose, other than the simple purpose of play? doesn't add up, anon.
I'm not desperate to do anything, you're projecting this on me
We're talking about what people find fun and the reasons things feel fun
Performing the illusion of work to get a reward is something people can find fun, but it's not very psychologically healthy
you're retracting here. you come out swinging, denouncing this particular game as fake fun, but when pressed you will not even admit to yourself that such a thing cannot exist. play is play. go frick yourself.
"fake fun" obviously isn't a real, literal thing you idiot
OBVIOUSLY, that's why you've been referring to broscience and other such nonsense this entire reply chain. homie you're a fricking idiot, and you don't understand video games. you don't even understand why you, yourself, play them. you are massively deluded likely thanks to le epic Ganker culture where we constantly have to justify to ourselves why we spend hours every day on what is, at the end of the day, just playing. you see it all the time on this hellhole.
No, I've been referring to real science. Go ask any psychologist if a human brain is wired to enjoy the process of work -> reward and they will say yes. This is real. Everything else you're saying is projection. People enjoy these sorts of games because of the reward sensation, but there's no work you're putting in
frick you. i can lead a horse to water, but i cannot make him drink. please think on this conversation, and try to let go of your stubborn desire to "win" on Ganker.
You're mad and you're being reactionary
I'm not telling you you're a bad person for enjoying Vampire Survivors
>but the work the game makes you do is mindless, you don't have to do any problem solving or have any skills, so you're just getting the reward
Yes anon, that's called playing a video game.
Some games actually require the player to solve problems and be skilled at the game
Yeah, less than 1% of 1% of all games out there.
The vast majority of games don't challenge you for shit unless you are brand new to the genre or the hobby as a whole.
All games except pure gambling games ask something of the player
Vampire Survivors still asks you to make some decisions, just way less than a regular video game
I mean I don't think there's anyone in the thread thinking that VS is the second coming of Christ in video game form and that it should be the golden standard we compare all other games to in the future. It's mindless fun, a run takes 30 minutes unless you get a bit too good and then you're done. Not a revolution in any way, just a well executed clever idea for hooking people in.
Anon you're playing a video game.
You're not working at all.
Unless you're playing an educational video game, all you're doing is illusion of work -> reward.
>fake games give you the illusion that you're doing something and then give you the reward for free
that applies to the entire concept of videogames anon, it's why we find them fun to play
People can enjoy games because they enjoy the challenge they provide
people can enjoy games for whatever the frick reason they want, and they don't need some fricking anonymous Black folk on a mongolian throat singing board to validate that.
The minute someone brings up "fake fun" or other nebulous Ganker buzzwords, you should just to just immediately stop engaging with them.
They're already shown their hand at that point, it's not to engage you about the game, it's to disingenuously shitpost and farm (you)s.
It's like 3 bucks bro.
I hate this consumer sentiment. I don't care how much it costs, I hate what it means and how influential it is in long run.
it's a fad you Black person. just go back to fricking cod or whatever you play, that shit ain't going anywhere.
>I hate this consumer sentiment
>just go back to fricking cod
this has to be bait
i don't understand what you're trying to imply, please rephrase
But it is actually important as the game provides the same entertainment for 1/10th of the price of a AAA game, especially since they just jumped up in price from 60 to 70$, which made everyone wince.
I have never gotten even close to the entertainment from a AAA game as I have from VS. AAA fricking sucks and always has been.
I haven't played AAA game in years now
games can be much more now, Vampire Survivors is not it for me.
I don't like this reduction to absurdity. I played the game for couple of hours and was stumped by how there are no "real" choices for me. Even worse is that you have metaprogression which just makes you grind.
What 'is for you' anon? Let's hear your video game tastes.
if we are talking about roguelikes/ endlessly replayable games, you have your "usual" bunch. FTL, StS, TBOI, Dead Cells all have much better player expression and creativity, skill ceiling, learning curve etc.
>and was stumped by how there are no "real" choices for me.
How are there no choices? There objectively are. You have 8 weapon slots and 8 support slots, there are more than 8 of each item type in the game. You as the player have to make choices on which to take. As you play more you have to use your knowledge of what you have learned to pick items that combine together in certain ways.
You make a choice at character select, as they all have different passives and start with different items, so they lean towards being better at different builds and playstyles.
There are clearly choices, I'm not sure what you want
the choices don't matter very much
have you played this game? if you random your equipment and weapons you still can win, but unless lucky your fighting a uphill battle. like even deciding to grab weapons or items during your first few levels is a huge choice that even now i'm not sure which is best. i tend to lean towards weapons
...OP, did you make a game that didn't get much traction? Are you surprised that a simpler approach to making a game could be more profitable? It's a tale as old as video games themselves.
it's just fun
>commercial gaming
What?
I'm rarted. I meant this being such a commercial success made me question everything
"""Gamers""" don't like gameplay. Sooner you understand this the easier you will understand today's gaming scape.
>muh wow rotation
like honestly why do you Black folk think you have a patent on "gameplay"
>Game designer Luca Galante has applied his previous experience in the gambling industry to Vampire Survivors.
The creator knows exactly what he's doing.
Remember that Pac-Man only uses a joystick and nothing else.
You're describing exactly how I feel about final fantasy 14
>It has no mechanics of any kind
don't use words you don't understand
Have they released the new engine yet? I haven't touched the game since the second dlc, which was ass.
>mfw the first dlc came out and all the clueless morons b***hed about babi-onna being shit despite being even more broken than any other char
pls respond
17th August
>6+ months in public beta
Fug. I better be a fricking masterpiece.
Anyone tried Halls of Torment? I like it way more
it's a better game but the abilities are more boring than VS
needs more content
It's a stupidly simple game to understand how to play, it gives you that dopamine rush every 30 or so seconds via level ups and new skills to pick, there's a meta-game element where you can level up outside of the runs, and most importantly, it was only like 1.99$ when it first launched. Being able to get dozens of hours, if not more, from a 1.99$ title is fairly insane.
It wasn't really that it was the best game ever. It's that it was an interesting enough game to frick around with and it was stupidly cheap and (at the time of launch) had not MTX or any of that shit. Then the DLCs started coming out and they too were only a couple of bucks.
Meanwhile other developers have taken this idea, made it worse, and charge 19.99$ for their version of it.
yeah, precisely this is what makes me seethe so much about it. There never was a game that was so clear in its intention of hacking my dopamine. So I hate it.
>There never was a game that was so clear in its intention of hacking my dopamine. So I hate it.
Are we really at a point where anons are too young to have played COD4?
how is COD4 comparable to this? I really liked improving in the game, trying different loadouts etc (not saying there is much variability. Just that it offers some player skill expression)
>how is COD4 comparable to this?
It's just the junk food of gaming. Tasty though empty of nutrition. But that's no reason to seethe over people enjoying what's essentially a cheap candy bar once in a while.
you are right anon
I like halls of torment
It's basically Flappybird and people are eating it up.
People and Ganker love Flappy Bird.
Why is it the average gamer refuses to go "This game isn't for me" and just move on with their lives?
the average gamer does this just fine, it's just a subset of Gankerirgins who think their moronic opinions are of any interest at all.
This is me with Beat'Em Ups. I just can't enjoy them.
I know I miss out on many games that are considered good or great or even classics, but I just go on and play anything else.
I'm just genuinely wondering why is that so people enjoy this, because this seems like anthesis to what I like in games.
God I hate the Ganker schizo bad faithing. I would've said if I liked it at any point - which I didn't.
You have no interest in why people like this, you just want to shitpost and move goalposts. No one on this site argues in good faith and wants to be persuaded, I have been here long enough to know this.
Anon I sincerely tell you - I come to this site in good faith, and every day I'm sadder for it. Maybe OP seemed like shitposting or whatever but I think what I said.
Because as you get older, it's harder to keep track of convoluted labyrinth games like Castlelvania, and your brain needs actual rest.
Not only you are stressed after a day in job, you also have a limited time to play games.
Your fitness and reaction time goes into dumpster as well.
This is why VS and deckbuilder games sell. For the same reason why waifu waiting games also make a bank.
Bulshit.
Ok Einstein.
It was actually the israelites.
You got me.
Are you moronic?
How fricking old are you anyway, grandpa?
This guy gets it.
After a 10 hour work day where I'm constantly focused the last thing I want to do is boot up a game where I have to worry about map routes or blind corners or boss patterns or blockstrings. I just want to boot up some mindless fun for 20-30 minutes while i unwind.
I'm 33 and bought Vampire Survivors and played it for like 3 hours max. It's not fun and I don't understand how people like it.
I'm 35 and everyone at work likes them.
Everyone that does not either does not like games at all, or is a NEET.
I'm 33 and I don't notice any degradation in reaction time because I keep playing reaction focused games.
Basically it's not you, it's your lack of practise.
I'm focused on weekends.
That is why I play strategy and Beat Saber then.
The only person I know that religiously plays vampire survivors and clones like it is a neet. I'm happy your McDonald's is an equal opportunity employer for people with autism.
I'm 36 and bought Vampire Survivors and played it for like 10 hours max. It's fun and I understand how people like it, but it's not a game I have booted up since the first week of it's launch.
So its already better at its job than any other western entertainment per $ spent.
Jim Sterling ate it up.
The rest is just the usual promotion of slop by youtube gaylords.
He just wrote some unfunny tripe in the monster encyclopedia, which noone reads anyway. The only ones pretending to care about it, only do so after they realize there's troony brownnoser points to be had.
It's basically porn in a video game form. You get rewarded for doing absolutely nothing and your brain loves it.
This is the simple reality of the human brain
It is very easy to entertain
You are nothing but a smarter than average monkey
Cope with that
>There is no way people play this and enjoy it
I do
>Who ate this up.
Me
>Are zoomers so moronic
I'm 28
Rookie numbers. I got ~500 hours. No, I can't be assed to start steam just to take a screenshot.
I don't really play these games past 100%ing them, I've also 100%ed Soulstone Survivors, 20 minutes til dawn and Boneraiser Minions
wow anon, you are so cool for idling in this shitty game for 500 hours
It's distilled fun.
The game is fun, for a while. But then it gets very boring and repetitive once you experience all the weapons.
It's an issue with all survivor clones as well and any roguelike game in general.
Fun for the first 10 hours or so, then incredibly boring to the point where I never want to touch it again.
you unlocked all the weapons in 10 hours?
No, but it also incredibly boring to keep using the same weapons again and again trying to unlock some shitty meme weapon.
the game is fun when you have no upgrades. Then it's just a matter of are you gonna clear the screen in 0.47s or 0.39s
It's same as any other idle game. Just mindless fun watching numbers go up.
Stay mad.
Have you never played a flash game in your life you fricking zoomer moron?
>commercial gaming
This is (or at least was) indie.
>a dirt cheap game with the depth of a puddle that has zero predatory monetization and free updates got popular
weird, never seen that happen before
The paid DLC is pretty fricking lame though
Sometimes I watch all 3 Lord of the Rings Extended Cuts because I want a proper kino experience. And sometimes I'll just watch the latest 6/10 action flick. Why are people so elitist?
The vidya equivalent of a 6/10 action flick would be your latest cowadooty or linear TPS of the month. The movie equivalent of this would be watching deviantart stick figure flash animations for several hours straight.
And god knows I did that back in 2004
Vampire Survivors Chads keep winning.
>commercial gaming
What in the absolute name of frick did he mean by this?
>There is no way people play this and enjoy it.
you know realize people have really low standards when it comes to having "fun"
The seethe never ends.
you fricking Black candy crush released more than 10 years ago
Candy crush had appeal for middle aged woman. It was never cool with gaymers, while this is
Actual gamers don't like this game. It's Gamers™ that say they like it because they're favorite streamer said so
Well there are bunch of gamers in the thread that like it apparently.
Think of it this way, the game is kind of like smoking, alcohol etc. An easy high/dopamine hit that you know is not good for you but you can still get the good feeling out of. It hits the same parts of the brain as slot machines but at least you don't lose money doing it so it shouldn't be too bad in moderation.
Gamers on Ganker? Lol. Lmao.
what do you consider a gamer?
I like it. It's fun. I played it a lot when I was first trying to fill out the grimoire, now I play it a lot less but there are still lots of secrets left to unlock. It's jus to something I occasionally play for free on my android tablet for 30 minutes before I go to sleep, or let myself pass out playing it.
I don't get what's not to enjoy? It's like a cross between a shmup and a horse shooter. You can say it's shallow and mindless but how many naysayers have killed death without a guide or at all??
>I like shit. It's tasty. I ate it a lot when I was first trying to fill out the pantry, now I eat it a lot less but there are still lots of secrets left to enjoy. It's just something I occasionally eat for free on my android tablet for 30 minutes before I go to sleep, or let myself pass out eating it.
>I don't get what's not to enjoy? It's like a cross between a diarrhea and a very solid turd. You can say it's shallow and mindless but how many naysayers have eaten shit without a barf or at all??
Interesting take anon, but I don't have to eat shit to know it's shit.
I accept your concession
what did they mean by this?
>bayonetta invented the ass and breasts pose
hurrr
looks too similar to not be traced imo
either way it's probably still legal, just kinda shitty
it took this long for OP to realize the average gamer just wants to turn their brain off and look at pretty lights, with no exaggeration
did you think developers were dumbing down games for no reason? i mean, sure, a lot of it is laziness but mainly, they dumb it down so more morons are able to consume it
Fallout 4 was Bethesda's best selling title. Sekiro, the only one of the Souls games that had an actual combat system, is generally the least popular game in the series. Minecraft is one of the most popular games in history, whilst simultaneously having the least amount of development and content added compared to virtually every other game out there.
The 'people' you see talking about videogames don't actually play videogames, OP. Welcome to reality. Now you're stuck where the rest of us are, having to trawl through pre-2008 games to find fun stuff.
>it took this long for OP to realize the average gamer just wants to turn their brain off and look at pretty lights, with no exaggeration
unironically yes
better than diablo 4 or poe at least
Vampire survivor fricking suck and I can't believe there's moron here posting shit like "it's fun"
>gameplay consist of moving like a snail across the screen, you don't dodge, you don't pay attention, you just wander around
>the pick 3 aspect fricking sucks because certain pick are better than other, there's no "this synergize better with my character" just pick the stuff that fills the screen with the most crap as quick as possible, when you pick a weapon you are forced to pick the passive that evolve the weapon which limits you even more
>you are done powering up 15 minutes into the game after which you stare at the screen 15 more minutes doing nothing
>buying power up at the start fricking suck, it's grindy, it's not satisfying, it's just there to waste your time and pretend this game has any sort of content
>they stole all their sprites from Castlevania so the game has no personality other than being insulting to Castlevania fan
>they hired Jim sterling who proceeded to write about cultural appropriation in a game that stole sprites from a Japanese game
>the humor in the game is just naming character "boobs" and "fart" in italian
This garbage would never got any traction without twitch and everyone weird obsession with "pick between 3 option" game and you cannot convince me otherwise
>the pick 3 aspect fricking sucks because certain pick are better than other
>there's no "this synergize better with my character"
did you even play the game, moron
the entire point of the multiple characters is different stat growths making some weapons better than others
that said after like 60 hours the power creep gets so bad it doesn't matter what you pick, you can screen wipe with nearly any character and weapon combo
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME FOR 100 HOURS BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT IT
I got to the last stage using Bayonetta (because once again they couldn't be bothered having an original thought in the game) and I got so fricking bored I've never beaten the last stage
>I got to the last stage using Bayonetta
Did you remember to use strength on the truck to pull Mew? I hear that helps.
What? Bayonetta is in the game anon, they even ripped her boxart
Huh, guess the head thing does kinda look like it. Fair.
It's not exactly subtle she starts with 2 sets of guns that shoot in all directions and fuse into a set of 4 guns
>fuse into a set of 4 guns
wat
It doesn't fuse into 4 guns. It fuses into rotating beamspam. The 4 guns is Gemini, a card that came out waaaaaay later.
I know what the item does but the thumbnail for the item is literally 4 guns and made from fusing two sets of 2 guns together
>akshually i was referring strictly to the icon, i just didn't bother implying it in any way, shape or form
ok.
>scales with revivals
I'm fairly certain that wasn't there last time I played. Now I feel a rising urge to go and finish the second dlc, but I feel I'd be better off waiting for the new engine. It gets messy when your egg count is 5+ digits.
Idk what you want from me. would you get mad if I called the garlic what it is instead of calling it "the persistent AOE centered on the character"?
I wouldn't know if it was scaled like that before did it always require the revive item to do the fusion?
You are literally autistic. The weapon is four guns that shoots four beams of bullets. For most weapons the icon and name is the only thing explaining what it is because it's design is divorced from what it does on screen.
Pugnala is Italian for stabbing someone like says... With a Bayonet
I thought it was pretty fricking obvious
Most people don't speak Italian you know
t. has never played the game
Go stack cooldown reducton on Babi-onna and see what happens.
you're entitled to not like it, in fact you're probably right to not like it.
but you just sound like a little homosexual baby like holy shit who types all this out
I will never understand why games like this make Ganker seethe so much, but I will also never stop being amused by it.
We used to make fun of you homosexuals that talk about "real games for real gamers" and now it seems like you've taken over the board. Sad.
Because something that put no effort in it got rewarded which resulted in hordes of more no effort games
Can you imagine if someone released a movie where it's just 1 hour of staring at a wall and it made more money than actual movie and resulted into more wall movie where the only difference is the color of the wall?
>Because something that put no effort in it got rewarded which resulted in hordes of more no effort games
Damn, first time i've seen that happen
>Because something that put no effort in it got rewarded which resulted in hordes of more no effort games
Who gives a shit? Is the success of VS somehow going to erase all future non-VS style games from existence? No. It's going to do frick all except inspire a bunch of indie titles for the next year or so before they find a new FOTY genre to glom onto.
>Can you imagine if someone released a movie where it's just 1 hour of staring at a wall and it made more money than actual movie and resulted into more wall movie where the only difference is the color of the wall?
I wouldn't give a shit because I am an adult and would just go see an actual movie instead of crying that it's no fair that these types of movies are now being made or whatever nonsense you're trying to suggest.
If you don't like it, move on with your life and find something you do like. Why is that such a hard concept for Ganker? You don't HAVE to sit around being miserable all day yelling about video games that you don't like. That's a personal choice you make every single day.
I accept your concession.
you act as if every new game being released now is a Vampire Survivors clone
just play games you like and ignore games you don't like, it's not hard
The games I like aren't being made anymore because everything is either a goyslop cinematic movie, another iteration of a Nintendo IP, or a indie survival crafting roguelike deckbuilder earthbound inspired
You cannot ignore trends because trend will come out for your ass
>The games I like aren't being made anymore
lol
lmao even
what mythical games are you talking about?
RTS games?
Original JRPG IP
As someone who has also enjoyed a lot of classic jrpg I find it hilarious you would be mad about VS being too mindless when many classics are in the same vain when it comes to combat, leveling, choosing items, etc.
This, I beat FF7 and all secret bosses when I was barely old enough to read.
There's more to a JRPG than mook battle where all you do is hitting attack
In vampire survivor the more would be finding funny that they named some of the characters after Italian TV personalities
Like imagine if they put a character named "Gyan Rosling"
You mean reading a cinematic text dump dialogue box?
>Octopath
>Diofield
>Monochrome Mobius
>Live-a-Live (remake but I know you didn't play the SNES version)
>Eiyuden Chronicles
>Triangle Strategy
>Metaphor ReFantazio
Frick off you tremendous homosexual.
You couldn't even name 7 games without a remake, a "spiritual sequel" and a brand new IP that's clearly meant to be persona with a new coat lmao
I named those off the top of my head. I'm sure if I actually looked into it for 10 seconds I could find another dozen or so, and if I really looked into it for more than a couple of minutes I could come up with a list of at least 30 games.
But you've already written off what I said despite them all being new IPs (with 1 remake of a game no one played on SNES so is practically a new IP).
What games do you like?
Ganker is just seething because they didn't have the willpower to make it first. The dude who made it was doing it for fun to escape his dreadful life. Although, he did use his work on gambling rigs here, that's obvious. Shit works. Not the first or the last like it.
its fun for a bit, gets old fast though because it really doesnt have much new it introduces.
Filtered
What the frick is "commercial" about this?
Are you using words just to sound smart? You shouldn't do that.
the biggest failing of this game is that it is only sort of challenging in the very beginning and then it gets easier and easier to the point where you can just stand still and watch yourself waste half an hour at a time waiting for the timer to end.
i agree op, this game's popularity is the proof that people don't actually care about gameplay, but just wants the simplest most effective dopamine hits possible.
If there are no mechanics then why do people avoid Garlic when it's a great AoE buffer in its final form? And why do bad players immediately grab heals?
If I say capeshit is stuff that only appeal to brainless normies and that it's ruining movie people will generally agree
But if I say games that are popularized by streamers are stuff that only appeal to brainless normie and that's it's ruining games I'm a bitter homosexual
Why? Remember Loop Hero? Remember how the game fell through the memory hole once there were no more streamers to shill that garbage?
>I'm a bitter homosexual
Correct.
>Why?
Because the capeshit you're talking about made huge waves in the industry and made billions upon billions of dollars and showed the world that you can have a fully connected universe of movies and it (can) make a frickton of money.
Vampire survivors is just like Loop Hero. A random FOTM game that had its 15 seconds of spotlight and is now some obscure game that people who weren't paying attention during 2021 or whenever it launched won't even know about.
That's why you're a homosexual.
You're acting like Vampire Survivors made billions in revenue and now every single game company is out there trying to copy the game.
>and now every single game company is out there trying to copy the game.
>MAX GAME PTE.LTD
>Frojo Apps
>Cobby Labs
>G5 Entertainment
>Habby
>Gold Helm Games, LLC
Wow anon you really showed me by pointing out a bunch of shit mobile developers that are constantly chasing trends continue to constantly chase trends.
Let me know when EA and CDPR and Bungie and Blizzard and SOE and Bethesda all drop what they're doing to start working on a VS clone.
>It's okay because the big companies are busy chasing other bigger trends like open world slop
>basically copies an android game (Magic Survival) he was playing at the time
>uses asset packs for all graphics
>basically has a shitton of fun developing
>becomes fricking rich
nice
>basically copies an android game (Magic Survival)
How the original mobile game devs answered to that?
Its short and quick
Its supposed to be like flappy bird or subway surfers
/v/s you are all stupid
kino phone game. get over it
>be actually born with huge creative brain
>be good at programming
>study games programming
>frick around and be a neet after uni
It hurts bros. I unironically see a world where I made one of those games and I'm now a millionaire. Frickkk
you never had a huge creative brain in the first place if you ended up like this, homosexual
How old are you? Just do it man why do you act like it's all over for you? You're not trying to be a pro football player where it's over after 25.
If you really have been blessed with a big creative brain, then make something out of it. Don't waste this divine attribute God gave you. Some morons are born rich/with the means to more easily develop a game, but they will never make a good game because they literally don't exist in the same plane as you. They don't have as much access in the mental plane as you do. They have no imagination and their game will never have a soul.
Because that would require him to apply himself and to have the risk of utterly failing in something that they believe they're a genius at, and an ego like that cannot handle failure.
>they're a genius at
I never said that. I am just very good at programming and quite creative. Just said that I could see myself making something like this 3-4 years ago as it requires very little technical skill, just a solid idea and get lucky.
And yet you won't, and will never, because your ego can't take the hit if you were to release a game that should make you millions and you get a collective 500 lifetime sales. Otherwise you would have done so already.
>Otherwise you would have done so already.
Nope. I have a good career in fintech now. Fully remote, work from home. I work 2-3 hours/day and get paid £31.50/hr for 8hrs. Games dev is past me.
I don't know why you are so angry. What have you done with your life?
>why you are so angry
I'm not. I just talk bluntly and like an butthole. People aren't generally accustomed to that, even on here.
>What have you done with your life?
Started a business a decade ago and retired at 34 with 8 figures in the bank+investments.
If you do have all you posted, good on you. Most of the time I see whiney "oh i totally could have done that" posts it's from dipshit NEETS that haven't done a single thing in their life and say that basically the VS guy got lucky and they coulda done the same thing if they only thought of the idea first.
>Started a business a decade ago and retired at 34 with 8 figures in the bank+investments.
I just don't believe somebody would have that money and spend their time on Ganker arguing with morons lmao.
Post bank balance
Try playing it man, just try.
Everybody thought it looked cheap and trash and very low budget and simplistic etc before playing it, but it plays on the human dopaminergic system. The guy who made it used to program slot machines.
That's like saying why anybody would be on tiktok all day, it's all stupid garbage short videos. Yes it's objectively very very low quality but it's addictive, it appeals to your reptilian brain, not your intellect.
I have no idea how people can say this game is addictive when part of the game consist into standing 15 minute stills doing nothing
It's addicting. I played it a lot and it's really fun in the very beginning when you don't really know what's going on and don't have any powerups, and the game has a meaningful difficulty. Then, the progress and numbers going up just hook you in.
You're writing this on a board full of players of gacha games, JRPGs, ARPGs etc. This game is no different. It has mechanics, though they're not deep. In some sense it's a combination of twin-stick shooters and action RPG upgrades.
I really don't see what the fuss is about, there are worse things out there. You should question how did people like Undertale, for example.
>You should question how did people like Undertale, for example.
I'm questioning that everyday since I started going through every single on these "Earthbound-inspired indie games" that Ganker keeps recommending. I hated every single one of these "games".
Just like with Diablo or gacha games, theorycrafting is the real game.
Of course Ganker is utterly flummoxed by the idea of an easy to get into, high dopamine, visually stimulating, simple but endlessly optimizable gameplay loop being successful.
What's the point of pretending not to get it? A desperate desire to look sophisticated?
Does Halls of Torment have a Hurry mode? It's looking intredasting, but the 30 minute timer kills it for me.
wait until it comes out of Early Access, it's still underbaked
Haven't looked into it at all, beyond what I've gleaned on a few random streams, but if it's cheap like VS then I don't mind buying an early access game. 30 minute runs kills it for me though. I'd rather play two 15 minute runs than one 30 minute.
Full/Near full price and early access can frick off however, I'm not paying premium to betatest for free.
just wait until it comes out anon, you'll have a better experience that way
there's a 15 minute hurry mode
but it does have mechanics, the evolutions, the arcana cards thing, the unlockables, the hunt for the red reaper, autistically minmaxing your passives for the endgame, hunting the achievements, etc.
I also thought it was fricking shit until the 4 or 5 hour mark when I started unlocking more and more stuff and realized it has way more replay value than what I initially thought.
Its more of a sign that making simple games cheap is actually worth doing, noone is demanding games cost the budget or an island nation with an equally large population developing it, its not necessary. If the game cost more than 2 digits people wouldve wrote it off without a second thought. It something to consider even if you didnt like the game.
Perhaps AAA developers would do well to use their efforts towards making small side projects that are sold dirt cheap and just explore making genres and mechanics, give a small team a limited budget and let them come up with whatever whilst having the support behind them to get the game functional and marketed.
It's essentially a card game draft. It's the same thing with TFT and the like too.
It's 100% the definition of a meme game.
It was fun to "figure out" the builds and rpg shit and unlockables when it first came out, but there's not much actual skill or fun to it so it gets old fast and now that it's 5 dollars I don't think it's worth playing now and I don't think people who actually do own it will revisit it down the line.
The game kind of reminds me of some early mobages where the gameplay/combat feels like the skeleton of what could be a "real" game if it had more meat on its bone instead of being padded out by skinners box shit. I feel like with slightly deeper combat you could make a good space battleship game out of the concept of being a big dumb hitbox getting swarmed by smaller enemies while you manage cooldowns and shoot bullet hell at everything. Getting fully powered up in the game feels like a reverse shmup.
But yeah I'm happy for the dev that he managed to make his dumb spare time prototype game go viral that he made because he was so fricking bored working at his company. Hopefully he can ride the success and make an actual game.