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Post your Tekken God Prime rank anon.
C'mon surely you aren't worse than a Black person, are you?
Help me please
I NEED HELP!
>attack 79
>defense 44
Stop pressing so many buttons and learn a little bit of patience.
I try this and then I get overwhelmed by the opponent.
Guys like lars and drag bully me
You don't always respect plus frames. But you need to at least know the situation so you can do an educatiinal disrespect.
In my experience, Lars and Dragunov love going for lows, try ducking and punishing them, and then mix it up when they mix things up as well.
Against Draqueenov uppercuts and lows are strong, against Lards overheads and mids are strong.
nah you get your defense lowered by playing vs king
I'd rather mash on plus frames than not mash on minus
you get hit when you block in tekken 8
>doesn't duck at all with that painfully slow high
>ducks
>get's hit by the mid
cool
I didn't see a mid there at all. Did you?
not here, but he can go for one if i decide to duck
but anon he said it's PAINFULLY SLOW so just react lool
tbf it is slow, but then again the point was that you get hit by blocking (chip damage aside)
I just downloaded the webm and open it in video player to check and its like fricking 10 frames visually when you start seeing the high move how the frick is that slow?????
5-8 frames = you can't see it coming, 10+ frames you can sort of see the posturing tells.
It looks like a lot of fun but I can't wrap my head around it at all. Way way wayyy too many moves to learn for every character. The sheer time investment it would take to even be able to tell if I will like a character's playstyle seems unreal. Apparently most of the cast has random "gotcha" moves too that will buttfrick you unless you know the random one or two moves in your 953 move arsenal that negates it.
I'll play it on the goypass in two years. Until then, enjoy you TekkeBlack folk
It's ok, studies have shown that those with a lower IQ struggle to grasp fighting games.
Kekken 8 is literally designed for morons.
Then how come most fighting game players are Black folk or spics?
as you climb the ranks your opponents will become increasingly asian
>it gets whiter after 1000 hours
yeah, like academics
tekken players cannot handle a real fighting game, literally just look at them complaining about xiaoyu, they wouldn't last 2 seconds in a game with actual fricked up mix and movement.
It's funny because other fighting games players are getting filtered by tekken.
I'm more inclined to believe you than the other anon because the 3D aspect of movement alone I see filters a lot of people. Like they're still trying to play a 2D fighting game without trying to sidestep or side walk.
Then why is Pakistan, which has one of the lowest rates of IQ globally at 81 average, the country that dominates the game?
There's hundreds of millions of Pakistanis
One of them was bound to be good
I figured out how to electric wind god fist. What do I do now? How do I play this shit dude? Its so confusing
The nerf to low parries is a fricking godsend, not since the time of Tekken 5 (peak) has it been this viable to throw out lows without being worried that suddenly I'm dying and being thrown to the wall
just play Claudio bro
Claudio falls apart too anyone who knows the matchup.
Jimmy from streets
Your drawing doesn't mean anything, schizo
That picture is probably older than you. Are you ok?
I'm 42 so no
i'm sorry for your loss but i'm not trying to mock your Cody cosplay, it simply reminded me of the drawing.
>fight a Yoshimitsu
>lose first match
>now know how too deal with his bullshit in the second match
>he plugs
May Allah bring dark days upon you.
The guy you where auguring is not me, I do not clam him as my own.
I am genuinely yet to see any one rage quit on me and I'm on my way out of red ranks.
I swear this has to be an American and console pleb thing only.
>TheHood
>GayStation
>Plugger
this is how these spamming apes get to these ranks
>playing claudio
>not spamming lows
>at the wall
>not going for a grab
I can guarantee the Black person Steve mashing away is a SF player and he doesn't know the match up
HEAT needs to go, the most brainrot unga bunga shit on the fighting game market so far. I already miss Tekken 7.
It's waaaay better than Drive rush
Ok, and? It's still a moronic mechanic aimed at zoomers and muh esports crowd and it has no place in tekken.
How so?
Sure but worse than v-trigger which remains a highly balanced come back mechanic.
It's worse than drive rush because it allows even noobs to steal wins occasionally
Jack gets a 10 frame punish move that does like 30% for mashing r1
homie who the frick cares whats it better than, that adds nothing to the conversation about the balance of TEKKEN, heat is a dogshit mechanic.
You can go back to 7, it still exists.
genuinely can't wait for the inevitability that is heat being toned down so shitters like you will stop playing the game.
Get fukt, scrub. :^)
why do fighting games filter Ganker so hard?
if tekken 8 is too hard for you literally every fighting game is too hard for you
Not everyone is a nolifer
If you can't remember and execute one combo then you shouldn't be playing video games at all. Go do something else, grandpa
>xiaoyu
>custom weeb homosexual
>crushes every move imaginable
>taunts every win
>in quick match
youre all fricking gays that should rope themselves
Yeah, Fighting games do be like that
Can we force bo3 in ranked. I don't get why you can one and done. If you queue a CS game do you play 1 fricking round?
>Asuka shakes her head after getting hit by Azucena
QUALITY
>I don't get why you can one and done
It's bad enough that I have to play your stuttering 45 FPS ass once, let alone twice or even three times
Maybe once they ban everyone with a fake ethernet connection and those who fail the benchmark it'll be acceptable to rope me into a longer set
Maybe they should use the benchmark for something. Like they literally benchmark your performance but don't do anything with it?????? In Age of Empires 2 they do it too but if your score is too low you're not allowed to queue. Tekken is just trash game it could be so much better but every time you suggest something you get stupid frickers like you come in defending how nananana game is fine its the players fault hurrrdurrrr
Yes i will 1 and done every king player. Doesn’t matter if i win or lose. Frick your grabs
It's so funny watching entitled b***hes whine about not getting 3 sets
There's something wrong with this game which makes it not fun.
Maybe because all the special moves are "special normals". No fireballs, hadokens etc
I fricking wish dude, the game's supposed to be Martial Artist with some anime on the side nowadays it feels like Anime with some Martial Artists on the side.
Dragunov conjuring ice is gay.
satisfying combo
are you a troony? why do you play a female?
Are you a gay? Why do you play a male?
Because I don't frick my character
*jerk off to
sorry
you just like watching a half naked man fight
kys
>trying to step Lili
he deserved it lol
fricking fell for the lili is linear meme
If he had sidestepped fully, that Lili would have ate some royal shit. But you see he did half sidestep and also performed a move which made him fall for the launcher. But he was really close evading it entirely.
>ohh just a little bit more! he was so close to escaping the tracking on a LINEAR attack!
he was out then he mashed to early and his hitbox expanded
typical lili downplay
here's the exact same situation - trying to step at +4 (PLUS) and still getting hit so off-axis due to tracking on """linear""" lili that the character model literally has to re-align afterwards
the only way he was getting out of that is if he was playing lili himself
>exact same situation
>uses different move
there is no way you arent black
>did a d4 instead of FC d3
Oops you're right, it's actually a fully homing linear move even at -6
First of all, nobody downplays Drag
Second of all, you can SSR df2 at even a pretty heavy frame disadvantage
Some moves track both sidesteps and need to be sidewalked, Dragunov df2 is going to clap your cheeks if you sidestep it.
And look I know how you female character players like to run on feel so here's something that might be knew to you (actually labbing instead of just saying shit)
>+6
>-7
moron
Are you fricking new? The frames in both of these situations are from the defender (Kazuya) perspective, he's +6 in the first because generic lows are negative on hit, and -7 in the second because I walked into the df1
Unless you're seriously trying to tell me that Drag df1 is -7 on hit? Is that what you're saying, you dumbfrick Lili main?
>compares a move that can only come from crouch to a df2
i cant
people saying lili is linear can suck a fat troony dick. i always get clipped stepping her
why can't any fighting game, even ones with a dozen titles like tekken, make a good tutorial? a tutorial that goes further than ankle deep and actually tells you how to defend against strings for instance. tells you how to PLAY instead of just oh here's some buttons now go mash or something. since they bothered to program a mode for punishing some attacks, there is no reason they couldn't do the same for attacks that must be parried, ducked, backdashed, fuzzy blocked, interrupted, side stepped, the works.
The best practice is always to just play the game and learn the game through trial and error. With that said, T8 does have a replay feature that gives you some hints what you could've done differently.
I wish instead there was a better way to indicate frame advantage than it is now. The defender has some animation of recoil but it's hard to tell if it's -2 recoil or -10 recoil.
Guilty Gear XRD had a good tutorial.
under night's tutorial literally teaches you fricking option selects, the reality is no one actually gives a frick about the tutorial and is just a way for shitters to complain about their lack of ability to learn.
>first 500 hours
learning your character
>the hours afterwards
learning your opponent
Remember that you're all in practice mode until having played atleast 2k hours. Nothing before that matters.
tempting but maybe I'll learn the piano, get fluent in french, and get married and have a family instead. remember that you will regret every hour you spend on fighting games that isn't casually mashing with friends.
Yes you are correct. There are other things that give far better return on investment in life.
>3d fighting game
>most stuff is still unseeable
>it's basically statistics game where you just predict the most statistically likely event and respond with statistically best move
if I played 20 years of this I would be crazy defensive about my 4d rock paper scissors too yea
Just don't let Kazuya get in your face like that. The moment he's that close, he can roll the 50/50 on you. However if he makes one wrong bet, he'll eat shit.
You can use T8 Devil Jin as example instead which is far more broken case of forcing the opponent into 50/50's scenarios without even working for it.
Every character has their own 50:50s. Kazuya is just one exmaple of it. Even breaking Kings throws has 50:50s in them.
Yes but whenever you got yourself in a 50/50 scenario, it means you did something wrong and allowed something to happen that you shouldn't have. For instance letting Kazuya get right in your face for a instant hellsweep.
Devil Jin though breaks this principle by having 50/50's on you without even having to work for it. Heat Smash is also trash because despite being blocked, the attacker has the advantage of 50/50.
You can start 50:50 just from a 10 frame jab... Yes it will just be a string that migth include a lowpoke but still. Look you're just the type of guy who keeps coping about how 50:50 is not real and it just means you play bad meanwhile it happens to you, pros and everyone all the fricking time. And letting people on your face like Tekken doesn't have zoners or different archetypes it's all same vs same.
Yes a jab may result in a similar guessing situation but the risk is nowhere as palpable as the other examples.
And if your argument about 50/50's being correct, then it would mean Tekken tourneys would be just literal coin tosses of randoms winning. But Tekken has been crazy consistent about its top players. That alone debunks the myth of coin toss matches. There are so many more layers to it obviously.
welcome to a game with whiff cancelable moves so you are punished for attempting to whiff punish.
>can literally see him sliding towards you and spinning as he goes into a hellkick
>i-it's literally unseeable
truuuuu why don't pros just react to it xd
>why don't pros just react to it
cause they are all nearly 40 year old boomers with failing eyes
then how are they pros?
they blocked hellsweep on reaction
> On prediction.*
There, fixed.
Its the nerves that get you where every move could be fatal. The pressure is majorly different with these pro players vs ranked scrubberonis.
Knee is so fricking handsome holy shit.
he looks like a blasian rapper
hellsweep is 15 frames isn't it? + kazuya has a mid he can mixup with, it's quite literally not reactable in any fighting game on earth.
> 15 frames isn't reactable.
> No you can't even predict it based on his footsies.
> Its le hecking unreactable.
What a dumb frick, anything beyond 10 frames in Tekken is reactable unless you are moronic.
15 frames is quite literally unreactable
>No you can't even predict it based on his footsies.
that's not reacting, that's an educated guess. it's a 50/50 mixup you are GUESSING
Maybe I'm just better than you guys. -_o_- or better at RPS.
False, most pros only do under like 20-30 moves and as starters only use like a few moves that are instantly accessible, its cluttered move list but hey, that's just how the game is, except king, frick king, his move list is full of BS.
>or better at RPS
there is no rps.... anon you don't even know what the words your saying means, kazuya's knockdown is a vortex 50/50 situation
RPS is rock paper scissors, they are offering rock, you are offering scissors, you lose.
It's called a 50/50. You either block low or you block high.
Or you sweep your opponent and then launch them and kiss em good bye.
Most people just telegraph the shit out of their moves.
>RPS is rock paper scissors
yes and when kazuya has you in knockdown you only have access to rock or paper and you have to guess between the two, which is called a 50/50 there is no other option my cute moron.
> There is RPS.
> But no because its limited.
> WAAAGGH!
Cease your crying you b***h.
it's not an rps because it's a 50/50 anon, is this your first fighting game or something
Its more like Player A:
> I'll only use Rock. (You know the scene from Anime.)
> Do I trust him to use paper or should I counter with Rock in case he's using scissors?
anon when kazuya has you in that knockdown your only options are too block high or low, there is no third option he's going to do, it's hellsweep or the mid, and your only option to deal with it is blocking.
He doesn't play, don't bother.
It's not really 15 frames because you can't see the very first frames and then there's all sort of other things going on, you're not just looking at a light to change color.
In a real match where you have to consider that your opponent can do any one out of 100 moves, anything under 20-25 frames is not reactable. Seeing that a move is coming is one thing, seeing the move and recognising what move it is and reacting accordingly is not possible in 15 frames.
>11 frames is reactible
go win EVO then because you're clearly better than everyone else
>I CAN CLICK WHEN THE GREEN LIGHT THAT IM EXPECTING COMES ON SO THAT MEANS I CAN REACT TO 8+ DIFFERENT OPTIONS IN A REAL MATCH
you have never played a fighting game
> Muh pros. (I'm a shitter.)
> Prediction doesn't count to increasing reaction time.
Noobs lol.
prediction is literally NOT reacting, it's guessing on an educated assumption.
You can also react based on sounds if they don't share the same sound effects for each move.
prediction isn't reacting you moron
>Noobs lol.
very ironic after sayig the most greenie shit possible. if 20 frames or lower was reactable then every fricking low would be blocked parried you dumbass
Eat this champ *also applies to Leo*
Get stomped gay.
>MM says it's unreactable
>Arslan says it's unreactable
>Knee says it's unreactable
>JDCR says it's unreactable
>Literally every pro Kazuya says it's unreactable
You know what, I'm rooting for you bro. you got what it takes to become the best player in the world
If you know its coming because all they do is spam that shit, why don't you counter it homosexual? Sometimes you can also hear the opponent's presses.
>predicting is reacting
i can't believe you are an actual person lmao
He's right though, if all they do is spam one or two moves you can react to them.
that's not what it means for a move to be reactable, a move is reactable when you can react to it without context.
he is not and you are a moron, predicting is NOT reacting. enjoy getting mixed with mids
it litteraly is NOT reacting. you do an educated guess but that is not reacting.
In a fighting game or any game for that matter predicting is part of reacting.
Xe's the type of person who will always block high even though the opponent has thrown out a couple of hellsweeps in consecutive fashion. And then complain that lows are busted.
I'm not the one complaining about lows being busted when it's part of the game, stop projecting.
that's not the point moron, the argument was 20f or lower being called reactable by actual teal rank morons
you don't play tekken greenie, ask any pro they would tell you that you are moronic. 23f is the treshhold for reactable
post rank
No I won't, there's no use for ranked in online filled with cheaters and save scumming my dude, wait till I get kekken 8 during the first sale it has and I'll get to it if its still alive.
You were so confident posting this nonsense wow. It's impressive how stupid a massive majority of the Tekken playerbase is.
>make a fighting game where everything is reactable
>Nobody gets hit, a single mistake results in turtling until timeout because everything is reactable
>>make a fighting game where everything is reactable
gets hit, a single mistake results in turtling until timeout because everything is reactable
It was glorious
doesn't for honor have unreactable mix? It's been awhile.
It's not even the same game anymore. They ruined it.
People say that about every game that's had at least one update.
Most people are right when they say that. Games tend to get shittier the longer they're out if they're live service. Just look at WoW. They completely changed characters and their moves and how they worked in the game. You can play the story mode and still play them how they originally were. They made it where you get stamina back the second you get knocked down. No more stamina draining morons that spam at you and keeping them out of stamina. They just made the game more accessible for the few morons that still play that shit and spam all day on team matches ganking people all day. Every character has an unblockable attack now so it's just homosexuals spamming unblockables while they gank you without having to worry about stamina. The game is cooked and nothing like it was in beta.
Lawbringer flip gave opponents full stamina cause it counts as a knockdown. That's how moronic Ubisoft is.
why is he wavedashing so weird
timing to bait moves or ducks. if you likely lose the round from an obvious hellsweep you would do that to
And yes you just said that heat smash gives free 50:50. SO HOW DO YOU AVOID THAT? Plus all those moves that only use partial heat bar also give free 50:50... I guess everyone is just bad huh the game is just that difficult truly game of geniuses.
I never denied Heat being busted and in dire need of patching though. Some characters like Devil Jin have completely busted Heat Smashes and there's no way around it. Same with Dragunov.
You take the low 100% of the time because it does vastly leas damage than getting launched.
The inky exception is Black folkhimas who are cheapness incarnate but everyone is ok with it because they're hard or snake edges that you can block on reaction.
I didn't say it's fully random. I said it's about statistics and knowing them. It's like trading stocks but in fast speed or some shit so then the one with most experience is most likely to win, in theory. But then again the last tourney was won by some guy from a country with low iq and many non-asian players are just Black folk (other low iq people) so clearly luck plays a role too.
Yup I'm clearly talking to a real low-IQ wiener muncher. Arslan won because Pakistan is poverty and Tekken is literally the only game they had to grind on for decades.
So now low income is also more likely to make you win at Tekken? Cool I will use that too. Like in all seriousness if Tekken didn't have such a big heritage and following from Japan and Korea it would lose so much respect. Everyone thinks that yea asians smart so if asians play the game the game is smart. But really they just play it because it was big in their country so its liek culture thing to them. So if asians stopped playing the game and it was all 3rd worlders dominating the scene it would be funny to see people wake up and start losing respect to the game.
>struggling to climb out of garyu
>3 tenryu players disconnect on me in a row
frick this trash lmao it just isn't worth the headache
>try other characters at lower rank because of the standardized autorank
>all these unga bunga players
>know exactly what they're going to do
>can't respond because I don't know my moves
this is a special kind of hell
the hell of not labbing
many such cases
You need 3 moves, one of them universal, to win low ranks
Jab string
Low poke
1+2 break throw (uf1+2)
yeah I'm just getting used to how Panda plays, I'm blowing up scrubs left and right just whiff punishing
Biggest regrets? I want my money back.
they made all the character for morons, so no not really, just run on offense since no one knows how to defend in this game
>just run on offense since no one knows how to defend in this game
they do on higher purples and this is where my mashing peaked 🙁
switch to a S tier character and repeat the process
for me its blues
>try frametrapping, doesn't work they hold back all the way
>go for sweep, blocked and launched
>grab, broken
have to fish for whiffs
Welcome to real tekken. Baiting wiffs by movement is the name of the game. That and delay catching with counter hits
that'd be cool and all if not for the fact that I can't kbd so I'm just handicapped until I get good
Kbd is the least of your issues trust me. Just grind it out and eventually you will get it somewhat decent (except if you play someone like Bryan then be prepared for extra effort)
Meant for
>they do on higher purples
lolno. They're just better form of mashers.
>run into three ragequitters the same evening
Tekken players are pussies.
Well they don't get punished for it. The system is just trash. A system like this would not fly in any other game like just imagine something like idk Stacraft where you just plug when you wanna and rematch after winning.
In one way that's based because rank prostitutes are the death of online gaming.
>it's based because they made system for rank prostitutes
are you fricking moronic or what. Tekken player iq.
they are literally the least skilled fighting game players in the genre
No one enjoys fighting games, it's why people only care to spend 6 hours at the lab practising the same 4 combos, studying frame data (lmao) and memorizing tech breaks
It's just a low effort way to boost your ego, you'll notice no one ever sounds happy when playing "fighting games" (actually just a juggling minigame, there's barely any real fighting)
How do i play lars? He feels unga but ive never tried playing him in 7
You play every character the same. You just need to learn what are their best launchers, best pokes, best punishers, best stables, best wallcarry, best wallcombo and so on.
Welcome to Tekken. I have ~700 hours between T7 and T8, and I am MAYBE average at the game now. You have to learn to embrace the suck.
It's only as hard as your opponent makes it, fight someone of equal skill and its balanced
>had Hwoarang in the lab for hours
>STILL discovering stuff he can do
>forget it all in a ranked match
It's fun, just wish my memory wasn't so fricky.
i always thought of tekken as the fun couch coop game tagteam and 3 is when it peaked but im also a fithy grumpy old man who takes fighting games way too seriously and rages over getting absolutely raped.
I never understood how people could enjoy fighting games casually. Like you just press random buttons? That's so fricking stupid and boring. And I don't like drugging myself just so that I can enjoy something.
>meme game is too hard
/vg/ thread. Go back to your containment board.
Kunimitsu when? I played her a bunch in Tekken 7.
heat is genuinely such a dogshit fricking mechanic it's insane
I like Heat, I think it's cool. One of the things that differentiate 8 from 7. If I ever want to go back to 7, it'll always be there.
yeah if youre a casual who just wants to mash sure it's a quirky little button, but if you actually want to play the damn gamn it's so fricking infuriating, instead + on block incredible range aggression move that gives your character fricked up properties you get EVERY fricking round, it's a literal clown fiesta button for when you decide you don't want to actually play tekken anymore.
Sounds like a skill issue on your part and you are in dire need of gitting gud :^]
homie I'M tired of using it, every pro player i watch to study up uses it ad infinitum, and my opponent is going to use it. the entire mechanic needs to be toned the frick down.
>new mechanic in a new game
>HURR why are people using it?
Yeah, that's you. You're free to go back to 7, it still exists.
>it still exists
Actually pretty impressive
They should've gotten rid of all the heat engager moves and made using heat use up your rage.
Officially dropped tekken at 7, simply got sick of the obsession with juggling. The requirement to repeatedly input the same combos to take advantage of a good hit is repetitive and brain dead, the game needs to stay more poking oriented where fluidity and creativity are emphasized, the best part of fighting games is the battle of wits, the dodging, blocking and hitting, continually outsmarting of your opponent, but this is greatly diminished when if you fight like this and not focused on getting launcher’s that the opponent really only needs to outwit you 2-3 times for it to be over. Some fukker’s literally just fight with hopkicks or other easy launcher’s.
Plus the character’s used to throw actual punches and kicks. Now everything is a flick of the wrist, a wave of the hand and other gaygity lovetaps that somehow launches people into the air.
But anyway, I haven’t played tekken 8, or even looked at it so I don’t know how it is.
So you want Tekken 5?
Basically yea. But improved and faster. The boxing or poking aspect of Tekken is what makes it the best fighting game for me. And since I dropped it years ago, I don’t even bother with 2d fighting games which are just button masher’s. Tekken I could fight a relaxed fight on the backfoot defending and countering or a high pressure fight on the attack. 2d fighter’s don’t compare to this level of strategy or choice of style.
The slipping, guarding/parrying/catch-counters, the 3d movement, the ducking while simultaneously throwing a spinning high kick, or ducking while simultaneously throwing a strong right hook to the body etc. Is what makes Tekken amazing. All these things take reading, and a focus on this “boxing” aspect I think would make the game far far better than what it is currently.
>fight King
>duck constantly and poke with kicks
the difference between low level tekken and high level tekken is genuinely too much for learning the game to ever be fun, have to go through cheese and mashers and you get punished in the short term for trying to play the game normally. long term you're obviously getting better but it's just not fun.
I'd still rather play Tekken than pixel perfect training stage poke fest footises Street Fighter. You just gotta play something.
The learning process is supposed to be fun. If you aren't having fun, stop playing.
the learning process is fun when other people are learning too, the vast majority of tekken players learning the game don't actually want to learn, and the game makes you feel like shit for trying to do so cause it caters to mashers when youre new, i'll have a better time just making some tekken bros to farm long sets on cause matchmaking to get better at this game is genuinely hell on earth.
You can be decent at the game without devoting your life to it. I think 500 hours of Tekken and you're using that time well and you're probably top 5% players in the world. Just knowing your main well and the basic principles of its rock-paper-shotgun style system will get you really high in the ranks.
Literally the only differences between the low level tekken and high level tekken is the movement and combo execution
and the amount of moves used, and the amount of whiff canceled strings and cheese strings, you are not seeing 90% of moves used in high level tekken than you would see is low level tekken, it's a completely different game.
whenever anyone complains about time investment, remember that they spend their time here of all places
>Lili is linear!
>tracks at -6
>Drag is unsteppable!
>whiffs at +7
Coomers eating shit ITT
That's not really Dragunov's problematic linear attack though. It's his dumb gorilla rush fist attack that requires perfect sidestepping not to get entirely destroyed by negative frames.
Dragunov is absolutely more busted than Lili. Lili is not even mid-tier. She crumbles apart the moment the opponent has knowledge on her frames.
see
and
I FEEL MY ENERGY
>play on special arts
>people quit after one match
LOL
The hard part for people in this game is mainly punishment and movement. If you really want to rank up, learn the punishment for moves. You can't let people get away with moves that kill you if they land and they don't get hurt because you don't punish it. Punish all the DF2's that are -13, punish hopkicks, punish people's mid mid strings that are -10. The sad truth about Tekken is that you have to do the homework at some point.
If I don't have fun I 1 and done, deal with it
>homosexuals want the game to play itself.
You can be good without knowing the most optimal combo. The game is amazing and playing in practice is fun, arcade quest can also help you to learn your favorite character a little more.
MAKE A LOBBY
make me b***h. you don't want any of this. you b***hes cry at the sight of a king
We played last time actually. I can make a lobby if you want to join?
>that one animation where Lili has Asuka tied down and has electrode defibrillator pads near her groin
>she cums and squirts whenever they're turned on
God that shit is so hot. The squirting animation, sounds, and her expressions are so fricking hot. Top notch animation. We've come a long way.
you cant just say that without posting source
korean kino just dropped
> Smash Bros/Mario Players first time encountering a REAL GAME (that only uses 4 buttons!)
Holy moly cope and eat shit homosexual ass b***h! Learn your fundies in kekken! Pokes, sweeps, launchers, throws and tackles.
Also don't just spam shit, press back and down when defending, ENJOY LOSER! HAHAHAHA.
>press back and down when defending
Crouching guard is worse than standing guard in Tekken.
LOBBY IS UP
Name: veee
Pass: 1111
ok nobody joined and the game auto killed the lobby
>expecting a fighting game lobby to have actual players in it from Ganker in any game outside of under night
anon...
hey anon. i am willing to play but i suck at this game and use special arts. if your down then let's play
Sure but you may get bodied. I can teach you some basics if you want to. Just make the lobby.
sure give me a min
Not him but just throwing it out there, don't lose motivation and hope if and when you get bodied. Take it as a learning experience because it is very hard to hold back in a fighting game.
veee
1234
Can't find it. Is it region locked?
Thanks for the games. your lilli was fricking tricky. like fricking hell. i never see her online so i never get to practice
Ok thanks for the games.
Damn special style does catch me off guard. I recognized some key weaknesses though. Sidestepping evades special style pretty well and counter grabbing and lows. Doing highs/mids are generally too risky against special style. That was what I got from this.
yeah it's pretty got damn limited. once you played against it a couple of times then its easier to punish it severely like you did naturally
Not him but I'm glad that even with Special Style, people can still somewhat enjoy the game using it.
You had some real good fundamentals IMO and did good reads. I think you will be a monster with actual controls at your disposal. Especially with that Asuka.
Thanks. i'm trying to learn character moves on the fly and how to punish them before going into command training. Like if I can't understand whats destroying me like your lilli for example then i just fall apart strategically. I used to try using actual controls with jun at the start but I keep getting fricked over when the opponent starts to adapt but I couldn't so I just said frick it special arts until I learn. I keep falling for the same tactics over and over again. you saw me just rely on grab waayyy to often.
Yeah grabbing is really good at the lower ranks but people above orange ranks just tech that shit. Jun is pretty hard to learn IMO. Maybe go for one with less complex movelist? I think Asuka or maybe Steve is up your alley?
I just main jun because she was my first character introduction to the tekken series via t2. i wouldn't mind either of those characters you mention i just needed to learn how to play mind games with people first.
When it comes to mind games it comes down to conditioning and baiting out attacks you want in order to counter them for example back steps/side steps etc.
how do i reliably side step in this game? i either jump or duck like a moron. lol
It takes practice but you need a good dpad. You double tap really fast. Sidestepping is really good in this game.
>double tap really fast
oh.... ive been using the stick the whole time. i guess i gotta learn to use the dpad.
Double tap down is probably easier than up with the stick. Hitbox is better these days tbh and more affordable.
>more affordable.
are they? last i check on amazon. frickin razor hitbox was going for 300 bucks. dunno how reliable the chinese ones are. can't trust paid reviews
What's your controller? DualShock 4 is a really good pad for Tekken. Don't fall for le hitbox meme.
xbox one controller. i think its still good. just a worn out analog stick is all.
Oh, yeah, were you talking about controller thumb stick? Yeah, double tap down same thing is easier than pushing up fast. Most people on pad play with the dpad.
I played with a 40 dorrar chinese cheapo hitbox for a while before getting a real one, they can be alright for the price (pic related is what I used).
Actual hitboxes / quality products are of course more expensive
>before getting a real one
What's considered a real one? Why do they call it hitbox anyway?
Hitbox is basically pic related, arcade buttons = Hitbox, wasd + arcade keys = mixbox.
Hitbox is the name of the original controller of this type. By a "real one" I just mean something that isn't small as frick like those cheap ones & made from quality parts, like Razer Kitsune or the official HitBox
You are right. I actually tried another controller from Aliexpress that had hitbox layout, but the quality was a lot worse than that keyboard thing
This isn't really a mixbox or hitbox, basically keybox? Maybe.
theres like a 70 dollar one on aliexpress that everyones been saying is good
With asuka just do the back flip and low sweep kicks to the launcher kick and tackle for some nice combo damage as a fast punish if she has those moves from TK7.
Why are we regressing on face models? Right is T6
> Muh realism homosexuals.
She just looks younger
>hit random
>this shit pops up
holy frick.
>try to do up-forward grab move
>character fricking jumps upward and gets juggled instead
YAMEROOO
Black arrows mean direction then button
White arrows mean direction AND button
Black arrows means WHILST HOLDING down the direction and button, that's how you get three hell sweeps instead of one, homosexual.
git gud mr.fors
>liiterally just entered orange rank
>haven't seen a single Zafina, Claudio, Kuma, or Panda
Are they really that unpopular?
I wish I wasn't a Drag main, I'm literally suffering from success.
OP is senile and should stick to Microsoft Solitaire
hit the training mode or frick off
I encourage all prostituteang players to neck yourselves.
use jab
How the frick am I supposed to block low launching bullshit man
Why the frick does tekken have so little quality r34?
>little quality
you mean quantity? the quality is there.
Compared to a fighting game like SF6 that has sold less? It has nothing.
You aren't looking very hard then.
It literally is. You need to press multiple inputs just to move around and then you have to learn everyone's strings and punishable moves.
If you don't grind those things out, you can only move left and right and get spammed with -11 to -14 moves that don't look punishable.
It's just too hard to pick up quickly or play as a side game.
I CAN'T BEAT YOSHI FRICK THIS GIMMICK ASS CHARACTER
> Doesn't know how annoying Kuma can get.
lmao get gut scrub.
Tekken is easy bro all you gotta do is
>practice KBDs for an hour every day for 3-6 months
>practice wavedashing for an hour every day for 3-6 months
>memorize ten thousand of the normals and strings of all 32 characters no matter how gimmicky or infrequently they’re used, as well as which strings can be ducked/side stepped/interrupted
>practice combos and confirms for every stage and every angle (left & right side, back turn, wall combo, weirdly-angled wall combo, floor break, wall explosion, balcony break, wall break, etc)
>memorize every character’s unique throw animations in order to practice reacting to & breaking throws every day for 3-6 months (including generic throws, command throws and chain throws)
That’s all you need to do to start playing Tekken bro (at a very basic level & you will still get stomped by anyone with any amount of legacy skill)
they have special arts for shitters like me and you, bro. was able to get to gyaru with it. so.....
They deleted Kbackdash cuz Harada didn't want people not touching each other on screen.
>nerf kbd
>add heat
what were they thinking...
King is so fricking unfair even without his grabs
>fight king
>get grabbed
>70% hp already gone
King is the biggest bullshit character to ever exists.
Don't get grabbed.
>don't get grabbed
>don't get 50/50d
>just..... just don't play the game!!
tekken coper logic
Just don't rematch King players. If you're not playing tournament there's no reason to fight him if you don't have to.
What a b***h attitude.
Nah. I don't wanna sit down and learn every King move. Other characters you can figure out what to do after fighting them several times. For King you have to do actual research on what breaks what and recognize the animation within the borderline of average human reaction speed. Some of his animations are pretty similar too at the start of the grab. If you don't know his grabs you just don't get to play. It's bad design. And don't say duck because he's got a great launcher for your. So no, I won't rematch a King. I paid to play a fighting game, not a research project.
Go back to playing Smash Bros.
Nah. All Kings deserve one and dones and there's nothing they can do about it. That's the price they have to pay for playing a character like that.
Mald and cry baby b***h.
JUST DUCK
Devil Jin, Hwoarang, Dragunov, Victor, and probably some more. This game is busted trash.
t. king
I fricking hate King the most. King players should suffocate on semen and die.
> First time playing.
I see you trashbaggot.
You think?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWSruTcdr44
Okay.
How the frick am I supposed to guess a hellsweep when they're baiting to use it or not?
You have to have fought the player enough times to know and guesstimate what he'll throw out. It just comes with experience. However, he'll also have the opportunity of reading your read, so you'll have to read that read, but then he'll expect that read, so you end up reading that read, and it all comes down to readception.
I think the problem with King right now is his bugged chain grab. You can't break out of the middle of it like you normally should be able to, so King players are eating good right now until they come out with a patch to fix it.
I hate myself for buying this piece of shit game. I hate myself for getting so easily addicted to kusoge trash fighting games. I hate that I can't stop playing despite realizing it's complete unredeemable garbage. I'm fricking pathetic
>I'm fricking pathetic
I know, you don't need to tell us.
Instead of hating yourself, pick the character you hate the most to make others hate the game as well.
I would kill myself before playing Dragunov, Devil Jin, Bryan, King, Hwoarang
Hwoarang is a classic, just get good, maybe play kuma for trolling purposes to find enjoyment in the game or yoshimitsu?
What about option where you play a game you enjoy? oh right that would make you a loser who gave up..... can't do that.
No, you got to grief till you get good, its how you cope with being shit at the game.
i fricking hate playing this game online so much but xiaoyu is too much fun god fricking damn it
Trying to main Jun. What should I focus on and what should I avoid?
are you new to tekken or just for the character itself
Played 3, 5, and 6 when they were fresh but never tried to get good, barely any understanding of plus/minus frames and stuff like that, I just learn several moves/combos and try to use them in the right situation. Played a lot of Asuka so I was looking for Asuka but different.
i don't play jun but i can give you general stuff, learn a bnb combo that works off most if not all your launchers that you will use often, and learn the generic frame punishes like your 10f punished, 15f punish ect ect. it will take you very far and let you get familiar with the character without having to go through a gorillion moves, also here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTsgbCJNSTKajMNlJvQleJOl0eTiEcV-PbeU0obDg1lsSqmz0lTtcD2k6NzfTPt7Db9Ua2dz1o_34Sv/pubhtml#
Awesome, that's really helpful. Thanks bro.
not him but also look at the damage difference between 11, 12 and 13f punishes. If it's like 10 or something just do the fastest one, strike a balance.
I really ponder where my life went wrong when I'm screaming at probably kids in a Tekken game because they're cheap as a 31 year old.
fighting game shitter here, i just button mash and learn how to block/punish at the right times. only people i get murdered by are pros who hit me with a stunlock combo and i cant get one hit in. ez pz gateway game
Remember to learn how to do launchers and sweeps and you'll get there. Also play hwoarang if you really want a button smasher.
I never played much of any Tekken game, but don't they all have ridiculous amounts of complicated combos? I'd imagine you have to be really skilled to hit elite levels of competitive play.
Yes and no. They can seem overwhelming at first but the execution isn't really that hard. Can just close your eyes after you get a launch and press the buttons because you have it all memorized.
They don't have "ridiculous amounts of complicated combos." rather, they got simple inputs (unless you play king) that string into long ass complications for combos to remember during midfight so you only use a few of them that can be performed from +1 frames.
Depends on character you pick and the level of play. Leo for example has unidirectional combos meaning you press down when you do inputs and you can smash that shit out. Because of scaling individual hits matter little so you're like 10% less effective for way way easier execution
Also, you can memorize them all pretty easy if you do them in parts.
Or play Steve.
Ah okay. I just remember seeing an image or two posted with all the moves a character had at their disposal and there being so many moves. Maybe not all combos are complicated, but and what I was getting at was more than there are a ton of options for those combos because the plethora of moves at each character's disposal.
Because of damage scaling dropping a combo doesn't even matter as much because your first moves do the most damage
100
184 (king) in tekken 7 being max.
Most of that's just junk you don't really need.
Combos are actually brain dead and most consists of the same exact sequence
>the launcher
>few attacks to keep the opponent in the air
>either a “tornado” or a bounce move
>a move that picks them up so you can continue the combo
>a finisher, usually a move that pushes them away so neutral starts again
Everything else on the move list is either strings that lets you poke or fish for the next time you can launch the opponent
yes and no, there is hard combos but tekken has ridiculously easy execution compared to most fighters, unless youre playing kazuya which that's his entire gimmick
>mash against dude
>get him to near KO by just doing scummy mix-ups
>I feel the KO is unearned and stop press buttons
>He ends up doing the same shit on me
Yup, this game is bonafide kusoge. Winning matches is not satisfying. It's literally just sticking to your flowchart of scummy shit which the opponent has no idea how to deal with
>b-but it gets better at high rank
Even at purple people are completely clueless on defense. Most players have figured out it's better to be an offensive gorilla than try to be patient and waiting for openings.
Anon, getting hit with an jab string is literally, literally, 15% of your health
How toxic is the online ranked ladder? I've been curious to try the game, but not really interested in getting teabagged every match just because I'm a noob. My IRL friends hate fighting games and won't get it
It's garbage. Everyone hates each other and they will plug on your ass the moment you leave the lowest ranks.
I personally love tbagging people, especially streamers.
>oh you’re doing an attack string, let me just press this button that has armor and takes away 1/4 of your health
>except if actually learn the game and use it in a combo, the damage scaling makes it significantly weaker
Cinematic moves were a mistake
Which character has the best neutral? I would rather try to win with movement than memorize when to duck/ss/interrupt.
Jin and Kazuya, depending on your execution.
I thought they were gimmick characters that just 50/50 you at point blank range.
I thought she was a knowledge check stance character like Steve and Eddy.
i wouldn't really say xiaoyu is knowledge checky, she just has annoying okizeme which just devolve into should you block high or low. other than that she is trying to dodge literally everything with her quirky movement options to launch you.
bitches entire gimmick is going under mids wich means you have to find a mid that works against her, she is the definition of knowledge check
>jackposter
proving my point, go shit another thread up with shazamposting or whatever fotm bait gimmick your homosexuals use this time
>you have to find a mid that works against her
homie, use a fricking LOW unless youre 1 of the two characters in the entire game that can't hit her with your lows otherwise USE YOUR FRICKING LOWS, the point is to stuff her stance.
i am not too familiar with the matchup but doesn't she have at least one move from her stance that crushes lows?
no people have been trying to push the idea that she crushes lows with aop d but that only happens to hwo, yoshi (which seems like a bug) and jack (which has been the case since her inception), the overwhelming vast majority of lows will hit her.
> T. Ree.... You got me now I must ragepost!
Face it you look and sound like him.
>I would rather try to win with movement than memorize when to duck/ss/interrupt
xiaoyu
Why was he banned for this? This is site is literally re*dit now
good, getting tired of baits and trolls shitting up every thread.
Yeah, I know. That's Ganker though and why we like it, you can go to /vg/ to Gankerirging/g/ope.
you are underage and moronic, go and make your 2138125th "how will x recover" bait post while adults have actual discussion
> Adults.
All I see are coping manchildren.
I just fought a guy who backdashed the whole fight.
Why are dudes such pussies over points man? I stood there and dude didn't move lmfao
He probably thought you were afk and didn’t want to win without honor.
why is he so triggered by no rematches?
Trying to sell the clowns the idea that not rematching makes you a pussy and that it totally isn't Haradas fault.
Ganker discussing fighting games is the funniest shit ever lol, all of you are moronic
t. 2nd dan
Give him credit, he stuck it out past 1st Dan.
not sure what the purpose of this cope is, but it’s cope
talking about any PvP game on Ganker is awful
My main problem is that, I'm too fricking slow to react to things.
The amount of times I ducked under a move and and could have launched but was too slow is infuriating
>game is too hard
just wait for marduk honey he's easy mode, he has 10 moves that all chain into tackle and nobody can react to it
t. tekken 7 genbu marduk bawd
>every fight is a one round ditch
frick you. i purposely now wait until you quit out of the rematch or if you want a rematch i leave.
you homosexuals made me this way
That's what you get for playing king/hwoarang/victor
>Accept a 5 bar "wired" match
>110ping 3f delay 2f roll
Nice game
what is the general consensus on Lee?
im playing him and find his moves enjoyable even though i suck
he can launch people from the ground. pretty fricking busted
i almost never see anyone play him in yellow/orange ranks
is he considered a technical character or something?