It was covered in gaming magazines prior to release. I remember reading about Dinosaur Planet in Nintendo Power. Rare war advertising it and gave a tentative release date, but then went silent about it for a couple years. Then SFA was announced, and anyone who was into gaming mags noticed Krystal and other similarities between it and Dinosaur Planet, and people were immediately skeptical. Rare did damage control and mostly ignored any public comments about Dinosaur Planet, which was easier to do back then.
That's an emulator screenshot, but on real hardware I still think it's one of the best looking games on the system. What's even more impressive is that it came out early in the Gamecube's life.
SFA on GCN and CRT looks great. High-res graphics and textures look strange due to some of the limitations of the time. Look at the trees in the upper left and the flowers at the forefront for an example of what I mean. It also makes it obvious that the mountains are just "paper".
He has always been jealous of others success and sabotaged everything he perceived as stealing his glory. Had this dude not been at Nintendo they wouldn't have been such a cringe company and could have been on the level of Capcom, konami or Sega even.
>inventing schizo stories again
The reason Nintendo does that thing where they attach an old IP to a new project, is because it makes it sell better.
If something looks like it basically could be a Starfox spinoff, may as well be a Starfox spinoff. It makes sense in a cynical business way.
it would have unironically been worse without Starfox characters, the game is boring as frick and shit and the only reason I even bought it was because it was a Starfox game
>people replying means they didn't read the post >NOOO you must hate the fact that SFA has Star Fox characters instead of ugly Rare OGs
Unironically meds and I usually don't say this
>two replies
a little better, unfortunately it's still laced with unhinged defense over a corporate entity.
Miyamoto gays should find a local ward STAT.
There is an entire Reddit dedicated to shitting on Miyamoto and making up moronic fake stories about him. He's one of the most wholesome lads in the world but for some reason he just triggers some people
which is so moronic. even IF he's the sole reason they took away npcs special garment, that's hardly nu paper mario's biggest issue. he wasn't responsible for direction or writing
It's all rumours, but I've never head that Rare suggested it. If you have a better source saying it was Rare who suggested it, post it
It's only speculation but it makes sense for Rare management to be worried that their OC exclusive for a dying console was going to be poorly received and latched onto a suggestion that they use Star Fox characters. Naturally there's going to be push back from staff who want their OC, it's their pride and joy after all, but management want money and don't care about your magnum opus.
There was plenty of stories of N64 era development where developers credited Nintendo for some of the design choices. It's only in the acerbic internet era that this has turned into "zOMG Nintendo FORCED devs to change based designs into shitty Nintendo babby shit!11!"
haha a stretched-out Glenn Plant screenshot, that brings me back
dude's a good basic video reference for numerous games on this console but man did my aspect ratio-fixing browser plugin get a workout with his stuff
I loved it back then but replaying it my major complaint is that there's just too much uninteresting backtracking. Now don't get me wrong, I love tons of games which have some form of backtracking, it's just that SFA doesn't do it very well.
On the technical side though the game is incredible. The fact that it runs at 60 FPS while looking this great is still impressive
It alright. It's very frontloaded with the good stuff, and the quality drops off past a certain point.
Honestly don't know why people dislike it so much, apart from "not Stafox", which no shit it isn't. We knew at the time, it literally was not Starfox. Dinosaur Planet was an announced and publicised N64 game, prior to the rebrand.
You can also add this to the long list of supposedly "bad" 6th gen games that still are way better than Ico, along with PS2 Castlevania and Prince of Persia: Warrior Within.
nah you're wrong. ubisoft was always the way it was
literally everything ubisoft makes feels that way
like its a french assembly line for toys created by people who dislike children
It's bland with multiple annoying sections. I'd say it's the epitomy of a 6/10 game. I do love that first area, though, and the water effects were nice.
I always thought the arwing model/textures were really nice. You can tell someone worked their ass off on it. Reminds me of the old x-wings from the early star wars movies.
Well earlier parts of it felt pretty good even if it played like a Zelda clone. Shame it starts falling apart after cloudrunner fortress. The last two major dungeons were disappointing.
Am I the only one who was HYPE as frick during the final fight with Andross? When Falco shows up it was super hype. >nooo but dinosaur planet! miyamoters bad!
who cares, I didn't know about dinosaur planet back in 2002 and I just enjoyed it, why pretend I didn't once I discovered about Dinosaur Planet?
Also, we now have Dinosaur Planet, so we can enjoy both.
Game has always been underrated. People only hate on it because it wasn't a traditional Star Fox game. Most major points I see are ironically because of it being turned into a Star Fox game last minute like the ending where you don't even fight Scales and Andross comes out of nowhere as well as the tacked on Arwing sections. Game would have been looked at more fondly if it had just stayed as Dinosaur Planet.
>Game has always been underrated.
Not at release. I remember buying it in mid 2002 and liking it a lot and the reaction on internet forums I frequented was also good.
I think it wasn't until the mid to late 00s that people started taking the "angry/jaded video game reviewer" stance and shitting on anything, in the case of SFA it was "muh shiggers miyamoters is... LE BAAAAAAD! because it forced, like, Rare, to turn this dinosaur game I never even knew about into a Star Fox game! can you BELIEVE!?"
3 is no masterpiece like the first movie but a decent flick. For some reason I think people like 2 more. The very first one of the new movies is also decent. All the others are trash, yes
3 is no masterpiece like the first movie but a decent flick. For some reason I think people like 2 more. The very first one of the new movies is also decent. All the others are trash, yes
I like Lost World enough, though maybe it's nostalgia, but I really like some of the visuals a lot really, like at the beginning the stegosaur part, pure kino.
I'm glad I could just enjoy it for what it was, wasn't a forum dweller yet so had no idea people were upset about it
Same here.
SFA si a fantastic adventure game and one of the best looking 6th gen games
same, i was just having fun because it was zelda with a staff
It was covered in gaming magazines prior to release. I remember reading about Dinosaur Planet in Nintendo Power. Rare war advertising it and gave a tentative release date, but then went silent about it for a couple years. Then SFA was announced, and anyone who was into gaming mags noticed Krystal and other similarities between it and Dinosaur Planet, and people were immediately skeptical. Rare did damage control and mostly ignored any public comments about Dinosaur Planet, which was easier to do back then.
Looks like Xbox 360 tbh
Kameo looks worse
shit no, it looks like upscaled Dreamcast at best.
Stay chudded.
can i get into sonic and sega as a chud or is it just too degenerate and consumerist pilled?
Adventure will always wait for you.
IKR?
Think they'd save the GCN if Nintendo let Rare have publisher rights or stop cancelling Retro's big projects.
That's an emulator screenshot, but on real hardware I still think it's one of the best looking games on the system. What's even more impressive is that it came out early in the Gamecube's life.
SFA on GCN and CRT looks great. High-res graphics and textures look strange due to some of the limitations of the time. Look at the trees in the upper left and the flowers at the forefront for an example of what I mean. It also makes it obvious that the mountains are just "paper".
I agree, a CRT is the best way to experience it. Forgot to mention that in my prior comment.
Would've been cool if it was allowed to be its own thing. It could have been a good, self-contained adventure game instead of a bad Star Fox game.
>Would've been cool if it was allowed to be its own thing
It was going to be until Miyamoto practically forced them to turn it into a Star Fox game
Based Shiggy. The SF characters are 80% of the game's charm and it has peak Fox. Not his fault autistic tendies don't understand what spin-offs are
Chad
He has always been jealous of others success and sabotaged everything he perceived as stealing his glory. Had this dude not been at Nintendo they wouldn't have been such a cringe company and could have been on the level of Capcom, konami or Sega even.
>inventing schizo stories again
The reason Nintendo does that thing where they attach an old IP to a new project, is because it makes it sell better.
If something looks like it basically could be a Starfox spinoff, may as well be a Starfox spinoff. It makes sense in a cynical business way.
n-noooo but, what about all these western-published stories about miyamoto being mean to Rare??? nooooo don't change my perception of realityyyy
Star Fox 64's success and the cancelation of SF2 unironicly cursed the franchise.
it would have unironically been worse without Starfox characters, the game is boring as frick and shit and the only reason I even bought it was because it was a Starfox game
>five replies
How autistic are Miyamoto gays? Even Sakurai simps are willing to listen to an inch of criticism nowadays.
It's not about whether or not I like Miyamoto. It's about you flat out making things up.
>people replying means they didn't read the post
>NOOO you must hate the fact that SFA has Star Fox characters instead of ugly Rare OGs
Unironically meds and I usually don't say this
>two replies
a little better, unfortunately it's still laced with unhinged defense over a corporate entity.
Miyamoto gays should find a local ward STAT.
Gettin kinda tired of this claim. It was the other way around. It was Rare's idea to use Star Fox and shiggy went along with it
It's all rumours, but I've never head that Rare suggested it. If you have a better source saying it was Rare who suggested it, post it
>I've never head that Rare suggested it
They never did, was fake news by Miyamoto shills.
There is an entire Reddit dedicated to shitting on Miyamoto and making up moronic fake stories about him. He's one of the most wholesome lads in the world but for some reason he just triggers some people
It's entirely because of Paper Mario.
>He's one of the most wholesome lads in the world
Based on what?
>There is an entire Reddit dedicated to shitting on Miyamoto and making up moronic fake stories about him
why am I not surprised?
Because people still think he's responsible for current day Paper Mario being complete shit.
which is so moronic. even IF he's the sole reason they took away npcs special garment, that's hardly nu paper mario's biggest issue. he wasn't responsible for direction or writing
>browsing Reddit
of course morons are eating this up
It's only speculation but it makes sense for Rare management to be worried that their OC exclusive for a dying console was going to be poorly received and latched onto a suggestion that they use Star Fox characters. Naturally there's going to be push back from staff who want their OC, it's their pride and joy after all, but management want money and don't care about your magnum opus.
There was plenty of stories of N64 era development where developers credited Nintendo for some of the design choices. It's only in the acerbic internet era that this has turned into "zOMG Nintendo FORCED devs to change based designs into shitty Nintendo babby shit!11!"
>Would've been cool if it was allowed to be its own thing.
Yeah like abominable shit. Would be much better
haha a stretched-out Glenn Plant screenshot, that brings me back
dude's a good basic video reference for numerous games on this console but man did my aspect ratio-fixing browser plugin get a workout with his stuff
Yeah, I don't know how you take time to write a script and everything for a video but don't even notice the aspect ratio
>aspect ratio-fixing browser plugin
name?
>Glenn Plant
also, he is so fricking bad at playing, I mean, you have a videogame channel, how hard is to at least try?
sounded like he never finished Jet Force Gemini despite owning it back when it was first released. Love hearing his reviews though.
that's a great game, I would call it a hidden gem if it weren't made by rare
Juno's design is great, though. It's just the girl character who looks like a lazy western parody of anime schoolgirls that sucks.
Vela's great.
BTW, Juno's helmet was inspired by Gatchaman.
kino
>girl character who looks like a lazy western parody of anime schoolgirls
the worst shit ever
It drags on too much tbh. I played it for several hours and never even got to that beach level I saw in screenshots
I loved it back then but replaying it my major complaint is that there's just too much uninteresting backtracking. Now don't get me wrong, I love tons of games which have some form of backtracking, it's just that SFA doesn't do it very well.
On the technical side though the game is incredible. The fact that it runs at 60 FPS while looking this great is still impressive
Yeah, the gameplay is so-so overall, but it’s easily one of the GameCube’s best looking games and one of the best looking sixth gen games overall.
It alright. It's very frontloaded with the good stuff, and the quality drops off past a certain point.
Honestly don't know why people dislike it so much, apart from "not Stafox", which no shit it isn't. We knew at the time, it literally was not Starfox. Dinosaur Planet was an announced and publicised N64 game, prior to the rebrand.
You can also add this to the long list of supposedly "bad" 6th gen games that still are way better than Ico, along with PS2 Castlevania and Prince of Persia: Warrior Within.
Agreed. Games like SFA and Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy borrow heavily from the 3D Zelda formula, but that’s not really a bad thing.
Haven't played too much 3D Zelda, are they really filled with fetch quests, backtracking and easy puzzles like this game?
Uhh, not really the fetch quest thing is minor in most 3d Zelda’s an majoras mask has more backtracking than resident evil, not others not so much
The earlier 3D Zelda games do feature quite a few block-pushing puzzles.
There's like maybe one per dungeon
6th gen was so good for action adventures
Sure. People were pretty spoiled for choice. Beyond Good and Evil basically bombed. That game's great.
>Beyond Good and Evil basically bombed. That game's great.
I can't trust Ubisoft enough to clock hours into it
You're a moron then.
Didn't ask
>the zoomer doesn't know ubisoft wasn't always like it is today
nah you're wrong. ubisoft was always the way it was
literally everything ubisoft makes feels that way
like its a french assembly line for toys created by people who dislike children
Better than Zeldor
>Pathetic.
It's bland with multiple annoying sections. I'd say it's the epitomy of a 6/10 game. I do love that first area, though, and the water effects were nice.
Playing this for the first time since 2002.
Holy frick, it does hold up. I'm too used to uglier 6th gen games.
>SOULFUL overexpression
>boring shit for furhomosexuals
>
Literally most Sonic games after either SA2 or Heroes.
>sh*t
Holy SHIT, grow up.
>we have xwings at home
I always thought the arwing model/textures were really nice. You can tell someone worked their ass off on it. Reminds me of the old x-wings from the early star wars movies.
>ultimate furgay game
>not shit
end yourself.
You can be fur and straight, moron
bizzaro world moment
But enough about SecondLife brah
It looked nice. End of praise. This was PEAK shitRare. Nuts & Bolts was actually their last good game.
SFA had Dark Souls combat before Dark Souls
For decades now random people on the internet tried to convince me that this game that I liked is bad. Still noone convinced me.
SFA si Kino, EOD.
Anyone else notice the similarity between the beginning of this game and Castlevania Legacy of Darkness?
Well earlier parts of it felt pretty good even if it played like a Zelda clone. Shame it starts falling apart after cloudrunner fortress. The last two major dungeons were disappointing.
Am I the only one who was HYPE as frick during the final fight with Andross? When Falco shows up it was super hype.
>nooo but dinosaur planet! miyamoters bad!
who cares, I didn't know about dinosaur planet back in 2002 and I just enjoyed it, why pretend I didn't once I discovered about Dinosaur Planet?
Also, we now have Dinosaur Planet, so we can enjoy both.
I WANT TO FRICK KRYSTAL
Get in the line homosexual
Game has always been underrated. People only hate on it because it wasn't a traditional Star Fox game. Most major points I see are ironically because of it being turned into a Star Fox game last minute like the ending where you don't even fight Scales and Andross comes out of nowhere as well as the tacked on Arwing sections. Game would have been looked at more fondly if it had just stayed as Dinosaur Planet.
>Game has always been underrated.
Not at release. I remember buying it in mid 2002 and liking it a lot and the reaction on internet forums I frequented was also good.
I think it wasn't until the mid to late 00s that people started taking the "angry/jaded video game reviewer" stance and shitting on anything, in the case of SFA it was "muh shiggers miyamoters is... LE BAAAAAAD! because it forced, like, Rare, to turn this dinosaur game I never even knew about into a Star Fox game! can you BELIEVE!?"
Perfect Dark was Rare's swan song.
What happened to the dino craze? Why isn't it a zeitgeist anymore?
Jurassic Park sequels sucked ass
3 is no masterpiece like the first movie but a decent flick. For some reason I think people like 2 more. The very first one of the new movies is also decent. All the others are trash, yes
I like Lost World enough, though maybe it's nostalgia, but I really like some of the visuals a lot really, like at the beginning the stegosaur part, pure kino.
>tfw SFA was the last non-handheld soulful rare game
Was the staff a good weapon? All things considered. I enjoyed it
Sticks are pretty good weapons.