valve shills will say that your PC is old, and it is, but it should be more than enough that run counter strike without any issues, they are just defending valve laziness
>bought
You didn't. You don't "buy" games on steam, just rent the licence. They can do whatever they want, so yes, you have to upgrade your PC because they decided to update a 10yo game, and you agreed on this when you clicked "accept" when you created your account
>nooo they should halt advancement in technology because i can't afford $600 for a new PC and have to stick with this 10-15 year old one
good morning sir.
Source had binaries for GMod and other games. It would entirely frick those games up.
They also learnt the hard way with people sticking to 1.6 over CS:S.
CS source never had official servers that would need to be maintained and probably more importantly an expensive skin market that would require constant parity between the two games lest the proles get uppity.
sometimes it feels like gpu manufacturers have deals with gamedevs to make games run like shit on older hardware just so people buy new cards.
cause i couldnt give less of a shit about graphics, yet even on lowest settings stuff doesnt run well anymore. fricking hell on earth.
japanese devs: lets make stuff run on cheap hardware so everybody can enjoy it
western devs: OMG JUST BUY THE NEWEST RTX TO RUN OUR UNREAL ENGINE GAME ON STABLE 15 FPS YOOOO
(western devs are actually indians)
>locked 400 FPS
I lost maybe 100-200 FPS but I didn't run uncapped anyway, that's for morons.
Also CS:GO suffered from issues with the Windows timer changes since it was DX9 / developed over a decade ago.
>update and replace CSGO instead of releasing your new game standalone so that the 7.6 million positive reviews are grandfathered in and any negative reviews barely affect the rating
Genius move on Valve's part.
you want to see a genius move?
the report system is almost as bad it was when csgo came out
you cant report griefing and if that player get enough reports he gets cooldowns
This is what happens when your playerbase gets used to running your 10 year old game at uncapped 800fps
There's nothing wrong with the optimization, it's just a new game
The only pro for uncapped is potential of 1-3ms less input lag. In the grand scheme of thing you can claw back with hardware or even Windows tweaks.
Capping the framerate is far superior in every way.
Each to their own..
>everyone complaining about stutters, low framerates etc. >sitting here with a locked 400 FPS
Only difference is I disable C-States for the CPU, P-States for the GPU and run Windows 10 LTSC with no updates and Defender / Meltdown+Spectre +powerthrottling disabled.
>Windows 10 LTSC
The real solution. I actually used Windows 11 for a while because I've got a 12700k, but the past 6 months, every single update has introduced slowdowns and stuttering and I kept having to roll back. It got so tiresome I just went back to 10 LTSC, cuckcore performance be damned.
Prepare to be assblasted by morons calling you a schizo but I have the last laugh with a stable system and best performance.
Also cuck cores (from my testing at least) had no impact on FPS in any of the games I play. So disabling them to overclock the P cores a little more was the better solution.
You really need a decent graphics card for CS2 but even then the water maps are so fricking laggy (even the small amount on Overpass stutters so much lol), molotov has massive fps drops as well, even smokes sometimes, and that is ignoring how laggy main menu is and how it stutters at the end of every match/halftime.
Do you also get fps drops at T spawn on de_inferno? Not exactly T spawn, but if you go a little bit further to mid or banana. In that mini hallway.
They didn't optimise shit in this garbage game. morons saying "Get better PC", not everyone is obligated to purchase high end PC every year. Besides, it's not the users' fault. This game is optimised terribly, I have a high end PC and get stutters and random FPS drops.
But my problem isn't FPS. Far from that.
I fricking hate how they changed and added unnecessary shit into the game.
Example: HUD. It's just terrible. Why would I need an entire family picture at the top of my HUD?. And that black string "5 vs 5" right below the timer. Why would I fricking need that? Nobody uses that obviously. It should be removed and they must bring back good old "5 vs 5" instead of profile pictures. A huge update and there's even worse crosshair change system. Good job Valve. Not only they did not invent something new regarding crosshair but also made it worse. Why would I need the fricking T or CT sign at the bottom of my HUD? And that armour and HP bars. No, if you prefer it that way, I'm fine with that. Because in Counter-Strike you don't really need the info of how much armour you have left. But maybe I'm nitpicking, look at the armour digits, they're too small. It's not the way you design things. The designer of HUD is a stupid Black person, something tells me that.
"What you see is what you get" is such a lie. It's the same old 64 ticks but this time ping matters most. Instead of simply updating their servers to 128 ticks they keep using that old bullshit. Good job fat moron idiot Gaben.
The average person upgrades every 3-4 you mongaloid. I personally upgrade every 5 years to the higher end stuff. >muh 128 tickrate
Games free my homie. Also they have to account for morons like OP running 15 year old hardware.
>Games free my homie. Also they have to account for morons like OP running 15 year old hardware.
you shills are actually so fricking pathetic
yeah they could not update CS:GO to 128 tick for a decade but now when CS2 comes out and the game stutters for everyone with PC older than 5 years they "account for people running 15 year old hardware" kys
How so? So I can have more consistent input lag, more consistent framerate / frametimes, won't max out the GPU creating large spikes of input lag. Just to name a few.
Only morons run uncapped.
>do nothing >succeed
Why change for no reason?
Look at other games and how they have destroyed their games trying to reinvent the wheel every release. Battlefield is a huge example.
>Play ranked >Always a 1 sided stomp >Always just 1 troon spamming all chat about how he loevs being a troon >Always 1 gay on the team carrying while everyone else is fumbling about >Weapons are inaccurate as frick standing up.
Shit game
literal fricking pro players are saying how ton of weapons (especially their spray patterns) dont work now but yeah a typical Gankertroon will tell you its actually YOUR fault
kys
Try using hardware made in the past decade.
My rig is only 3 years old you fricking ape.
95% of gamers are morons just ignore him
todd howard literally defended shit optimization with "lol just upgrade bro"
Is at this point that people should realize how todd really thinks
yeah and it was probably owned by some moronic Black person for 10 years before you, Ivan.
>t. only lost 30 fps on a 7 year old card
get rid of all your GPU bloatware
Post specs.
R9 360
8GB DDR3
i7 6800K
surprised you can even run CS:GO at all
Frick you guys. I bought this PC 3 years ago for $1,500. PC store was having a clearance and it was on a big sale.
Then you got scamed big time
Fricking Bognadov scammed me... REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>i7 6800k
>DDR3
Pic related
Vladislav….
>3 years old
>those specs
Stop lying
It’s cutting edge somewhere. Thinking Africa and east of the Ural mountains.
good morning sirs
Vlad...
>i-i have an i7 though that means it's good, right!?
Intel wins again tricking morons into shitty PC builds.
gooooooood mooooorning ser
Is a modern iGPU better than an r9 360? I think it would be, lmao.
valve shills will say that your PC is old, and it is, but it should be more than enough that run counter strike without any issues, they are just defending valve laziness
>noooo why can't my r9-360 that is equivalent to an overclock GTX 280 from 2008 run a game released in 2023
Poorgay detected.
not my problem shill, I have 1 year old components and haven't touched a single valve game in years
cool. nobody cares.
>twitter response
actually braindead
>r9 360
>1500$
Fricking kek. You can build a PC twice as powerful with half the price. You fell for the prebuild meme
didnt realize rusBlack folk had sanctions since like 2012
its so funny reading the replies that think this is OP, even as a joke. Ganker is so predictable
I wasn't aware the 3070Ti was made in the 2000s
you fricking Black person
ignore the braindead pajeet shills
Something is wrong with your PC then. I get a locked 400 fps on a 2070 Super
the beta was running at max_fps that I set to 200
Kek
As predicted.
I bought CS:GO ten years ago and it ran fine. I shouldn't need to upgrade my PC to continue playing a 10 year old game?
>bought
You didn't. You don't "buy" games on steam, just rent the licence. They can do whatever they want, so yes, you have to upgrade your PC because they decided to update a 10yo game, and you agreed on this when you clicked "accept" when you created your account
>nooo they should halt advancement in technology because i can't afford $600 for a new PC and have to stick with this 10-15 year old one
good morning sir.
No, they shouln't have replaced CS:GO with CS2.
They didn't remove CS Source after the relase of CS:GO.
revert to csgo then.
How? It's impossible.
Go to betas, switch to csgo demo viewer or whatever its called and it will redownload.
Source had binaries for GMod and other games. It would entirely frick those games up.
They also learnt the hard way with people sticking to 1.6 over CS:S.
CS source never had official servers that would need to be maintained and probably more importantly an expensive skin market that would require constant parity between the two games lest the proles get uppity.
sometimes it feels like gpu manufacturers have deals with gamedevs to make games run like shit on older hardware just so people buy new cards.
cause i couldnt give less of a shit about graphics, yet even on lowest settings stuff doesnt run well anymore. fricking hell on earth.
I was getting 500 fps rock solid in CSGO. This is ridiculous.
CS2 is an upgrade in this department because it actually uses your GPU instead of everything being CPU dependent.
Please understand, its an engine made almost a decade ago
>Source 1 was 8 years old when CSGO released
>Source 2 was 8 years old when CS2 released
It's like pottery...
japanese devs: lets make stuff run on cheap hardware so everybody can enjoy it
western devs: OMG JUST BUY THE NEWEST RTX TO RUN OUR UNREAL ENGINE GAME ON STABLE 15 FPS YOOOO
(western devs are actually indians)
Phantom Pain runs flawlessly on my fricking 10 year old laptop. It's really becoming a joke at this point.
MGSV is an 8 years old game made for 18 years old hardware.
I would be impressed if it ran on my 2007 laptop
>locked 400 FPS
I lost maybe 100-200 FPS but I didn't run uncapped anyway, that's for morons.
Also CS:GO suffered from issues with the Windows timer changes since it was DX9 / developed over a decade ago.
>release masterpiece that's hammer 2
>no server browser
the server binary was released like a week ago and server browser was there from day 1
Same.
>update and replace CSGO instead of releasing your new game standalone so that the 7.6 million positive reviews are grandfathered in and any negative reviews barely affect the rating
Genius move on Valve's part.
you want to see a genius move?
the report system is almost as bad it was when csgo came out
you cant report griefing and if that player get enough reports he gets cooldowns
What kind of potato PC do you have?
>locked 400 FPS on CS:GO
>locked 400 FPS on CS2
Works on my machine.
200+ here
i'm AMD. whichever GPU it is, you have to get rid of all the bloatware
>bloatware
Hardly makes a difference. You really think a GPU manufacturer is going to bloat their drivers / software and create FPS loss? Kek
YES
Show me proof. I have tested NVClean install.
>inb4 AMD
This is what happens when your playerbase gets used to running your 10 year old game at uncapped 800fps
There's nothing wrong with the optimization, it's just a new game
Only morons run uncapped. Too many downsides for just 1-3ms less input lag.
dumbass
input lag > all
Yeah but if you're uncapped and maxing out the GPU, you're actually adding more input lag.
>input lag
>in a positional shooter
Lol
>cares about input lag
>prefers uneven input lag, random framerate and worse 1% lows
lol
lmao even
literally nothing matters more than low ms
The only pro for uncapped is potential of 1-3ms less input lag. In the grand scheme of thing you can claw back with hardware or even Windows tweaks.
Capping the framerate is far superior in every way.
Each to their own..
This. It's been common knowledge for at least 15 years at this point.
Hi Todd
>, it's just a new game
Why delete old game again?
>nu can't compete against old
Oh wait, can't say that, let's find some politicaly correct excuse.
Actually there IS something wrong with the optimization, but only on AMD at the moment. Hopefully that should be fixed in the future.
It still exists, but Valve put it behind a beta branch and it's less stable than it used to be.
forgot the image
frick
>everyone complaining about stutters, low framerates etc.
>sitting here with a locked 400 FPS
Only difference is I disable C-States for the CPU, P-States for the GPU and run Windows 10 LTSC with no updates and Defender / Meltdown+Spectre +powerthrottling disabled.
>Windows 10 LTSC
The real solution. I actually used Windows 11 for a while because I've got a 12700k, but the past 6 months, every single update has introduced slowdowns and stuttering and I kept having to roll back. It got so tiresome I just went back to 10 LTSC, cuckcore performance be damned.
Prepare to be assblasted by morons calling you a schizo but I have the last laugh with a stable system and best performance.
Also cuck cores (from my testing at least) had no impact on FPS in any of the games I play. So disabling them to overclock the P cores a little more was the better solution.
im playing fine on an x201 learn how to use a computer dumb frick.
Let me guess. Ryzen 3600 + RTX 2060.
Time to upgrade your peasant PC Mr.
She won.
So instead of running at 400 fps it now runs at 200 fps?
>open game
>start a match
>everything seems fine
>go to 2nd match
>get shot 3 rounds in
>game crashes
>go into deathmatch
>load into the map
>get shot
>ERROR: You must have a steam logon in order to play counter strike 2
You really need a decent graphics card for CS2 but even then the water maps are so fricking laggy (even the small amount on Overpass stutters so much lol), molotov has massive fps drops as well, even smokes sometimes, and that is ignoring how laggy main menu is and how it stutters at the end of every match/halftime.
Buy Intel / NVIDIA next time.
How shit is my pc?
>laptop
>I7 7th gen
>geforce 940 mx
Please tell me lads will it run cs2
At 60 fps.
i get a constant 80 on medium settings on my 970
works on my machine
80 is borderline unplayable for counter strike
im not a sweat all i play is deathmatch at 3 am when all the drunk/fun people are on
if you get 60 or above any game is playable
CS:GO was that bloated towards the end that I found a 200 FPS cap felt far smoother and better than 400 FPS.
framerate doesnt matter only frametime
post frametime
>This update cut my FPS in half!
>FPS went from 160 to 80 on his 60hz monitor
Do you also get fps drops at T spawn on de_inferno? Not exactly T spawn, but if you go a little bit further to mid or banana. In that mini hallway.
They didn't optimise shit in this garbage game. morons saying "Get better PC", not everyone is obligated to purchase high end PC every year. Besides, it's not the users' fault. This game is optimised terribly, I have a high end PC and get stutters and random FPS drops.
But my problem isn't FPS. Far from that.
I fricking hate how they changed and added unnecessary shit into the game.
Example: HUD. It's just terrible. Why would I need an entire family picture at the top of my HUD?. And that black string "5 vs 5" right below the timer. Why would I fricking need that? Nobody uses that obviously. It should be removed and they must bring back good old "5 vs 5" instead of profile pictures. A huge update and there's even worse crosshair change system. Good job Valve. Not only they did not invent something new regarding crosshair but also made it worse. Why would I need the fricking T or CT sign at the bottom of my HUD? And that armour and HP bars. No, if you prefer it that way, I'm fine with that. Because in Counter-Strike you don't really need the info of how much armour you have left. But maybe I'm nitpicking, look at the armour digits, they're too small. It's not the way you design things. The designer of HUD is a stupid Black person, something tells me that.
"What you see is what you get" is such a lie. It's the same old 64 ticks but this time ping matters most. Instead of simply updating their servers to 128 ticks they keep using that old bullshit. Good job fat moron idiot Gaben.
The average person upgrades every 3-4 you mongaloid. I personally upgrade every 5 years to the higher end stuff.
>muh 128 tickrate
Games free my homie. Also they have to account for morons like OP running 15 year old hardware.
>Games free my homie. Also they have to account for morons like OP running 15 year old hardware.
you shills are actually so fricking pathetic
yeah they could not update CS:GO to 128 tick for a decade but now when CS2 comes out and the game stutters for everyone with PC older than 5 years they "account for people running 15 year old hardware" kys
>run uncapped fps like a monkey
>run a 10 year old HDD
>wonder why the game stutters
Works on my 3930k / 1070ti build very nicely, gaylord.
you are the moronic one for running CS with capped fps lil bro
How so? So I can have more consistent input lag, more consistent framerate / frametimes, won't max out the GPU creating large spikes of input lag. Just to name a few.
Only morons run uncapped.
If gaymes used generated textures instead of image based textures would it be faster?
A high end PC from 10 years ago runs this game at 150-250 fps at 1080p low.
What the frick are you guys running?
15 year old equivalent hardware apparently
Imagine playing a game with 0 updates since cs go source.
>do nothing
>succeed
Why change for no reason?
Look at other games and how they have destroyed their games trying to reinvent the wheel every release. Battlefield is a huge example.
If I've learned anything in the last week is that Ganker is poor.
>Play ranked
>Always a 1 sided stomp
>Always just 1 troon spamming all chat about how he loevs being a troon
>Always 1 gay on the team carrying while everyone else is fumbling about
>Weapons are inaccurate as frick standing up.
Shit game
>1 sided stomp
Give it a while. ELO is still working itself out.
>weapons are innaccurate
Skill issue
They made weapon more inaccurate while standing.
literal fricking pro players are saying how ton of weapons (especially their spray patterns) dont work now but yeah a typical Gankertroon will tell you its actually YOUR fault
kys
>Literally the same game
>But with less maps and worse fps
Jesus try adding something at launch new at least
Counter-Strike gays cry at the first sight of change... Even the UI change in 2017 set people off.
They are a special breed of autism.
I know, I'm a special breed that has been playing since 1.5 but hates competitivegays.
Bring the riot shield back.
Hey, we are in the same boat. I was always about the comnmunity servers + mods etc.
>muh community servers
yeah, the stuff that was on CSGO and still is in game
CS:GO community servers are half of what they used to be though. Both gameplay and community wise. CS:S still king and still active thankfully.