This has probably one of the worst, most shallow and absymal combat systems in the ARPG genre
What the actual frick went so horribly wrong?
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This has probably one of the worst, most shallow and absymal combat systems in the ARPG genre
>still the shame shitty lock on system.
there isnt a single game without a shitty lock on system
>ghost of tsushima
>hi fi rush
>callisto protocol
ironically HFR needs lock on pretty badly
The auto-lock in Hi-Fi Rush is awful. Knocking an enemy away with a beat hit and then immediately magnetting to them, something the game tells you to start doing in level 2, will always fail if there's another enemy even vaguely along the magnet's path. If you break the stun gauge on an enemy that's in a crowd and want to get it into the air ASAP, the dash launcher will often pull you toward other enemies, including ones you can't even launch.
ghost of sushi had terrible combat and the auto target system would always frick up. there were plenty of times where you would be getting hit off screen by an enemy you are fighting because the camera angle tries too hard to be cinematic.
I don't play games with lock-on systems
How does it compare to Nioh? The trailer looked sick and I love Nioh so I'm still optimistic.
>How does it compare to Nioh?
It's worse in every way. Your main defensive option is a very spammable OP dodge
>The deflect windows are too wide, the deflects themselves too spammable. They eat their cake and have it too, they act as pretty much Nioh 2 low stance dodge, just a bit slower but with iframes and massive advantage in using them
>Block is still very strong and makes the game a joke when paired to the dodge
>The bosses are a joke, they have a bunch of 2-3 attacks and then dish out those heavily telegraphed super super red attacks that are just begging to get deflected and deal massive damage
>Jump is fricking pointless, why use it when you can just get that sweet universal deflect which actually advantages you
>I didn't test many weapons, used only boss mace and sabre, but in both cases the ashes of war ripoffs were shit, spirit attack was far better, especially at peak spirit bar
>Human bosses are absymal, get stunlocked, then roll to the sides and try to attack, usually only manage with the red attacks because they get hyperarmor
>Tested M&K and the controls are legitimately worse than the original Nioh PRE-PATCH, aiming with mouse is absymal but K&M were pretty good in Nioh 2 complete edition
>The game is too easy... and you get forced a companion for story missions that draws aggro in certain instances
It's really fricking bad to the point I was wondering if Covid hasn't massivelh fricked up development or something
>plays third person action games with M+KB
opinion discarded
if you liked nioh you wont like wo long
they removed all the stances and skills, so you have just one basic attack and a few special attacks that use resources
they also fricked up the camera somehow and it feels really awkward
nioh 2 is one of my favorite games of all time and i love wo long
I love nioh 2 and i'm living wo long
You homosexuals think every Game should play the same
i dont think every game should play the same
nioh was great
sekiro was great
wo long is shit
Got filtered by the first demo boss, eh?
Game is ridicolously easy lol
Yeah, wtf?
Maybe they made the demo easier so it wouldn't filter too many potential players.
seems Ganker has already decided to hate this game
personally I think it's already quite good, the combat feels much more fluid that sekiro. I really like the spirit bar or whatever that fills up from attacking or parrying, and is also used as a casting resource. It feels like if you play safe fights can take a long time, but if you play aggressive and don't get hit you kill stuff fast
>anon essentially describes a braindead buttonmasher
>I think the game is quite good!
lol
who are you quoting?
I didn't decide to hate anything. I played and it's obviously fricking shit. I explained why
Fun as hell, but could be a bit more challenging, and so far the level design is a bit lacking.
Nioh is extremely flawed but you homosexuals lapped that up. Don't suddenly act like you've developed good judgement.
Nioh is a flawed diamond, and your Sekishit is a polished turd
>and your Sekishit
Implying I care about Wo Long anymore than Nioh
What are the flaws?
>I cant into parrying
Fuuuuck.....
"Parrying" is ridicolously easy in this game, more so than Sekiro. If by some weird reason you get baited by a delayed attack you have even good chances of double tap dodge to completely evade it
It's few steps from being an utterly braindead button masher
I think Im just too slow. Never use it in most games. Though, only problem enemy for me is liang's second phase
If you're still stuck try blocking some attacks instead.
You take chip damage but you can switch between parrying the clearer telegraphed ones and blocking the spammy combos.
Can't be helped. Making the player overpowered as frick was the only way to accurately portray a chinese warrior.
Sounds like you got filtered. Game is great.
Oh so now you fricking morons don't know what ARPGs are anymore too?
I tried both nioh and sekiro and both were shit. I couldn't last more than 1h from how boring the gameplay was
Is there trash loot again like nioh 1 and 2?
Less so, basically most enemies don't drop anything..
Unfortunately the game isn't worth playing and is really shallow
Kys shazamgay
Thx,that a good point.
I will judge by myself
I suggest you try the demo rather than buying blindly
>pretty much every martial art is shittier than the weapon basic strong attack
Lol
Lmao
If you had told me this is an IT school project I would have believed you
Hard to tell. I've just done the first boss in the demo and left it there but it seems less egregious, and this is coming from someone who dropped Nioh 2.
>getting absolutely obliterated by tiger thing
>parry its red attack 1 time
>cinematic attack it for 80% hp
huh
they were basically regular enemies in the previous demo, i don't understand why they were so stingy with monsters in this one. they also made the deflect window too wide
no wonder its day 1 on gamepass lol, must be the B team that worked on this.
>not a new IP
dunno i love it, it's like sekiro but more
yeah but most of sekiro enemies is humanoids, it's really neat to parry boar boss, flip him over and do wuxia shit
can I make the ally npcs go away?
they're worse than useless
No, you're stuck with them. Maybe in the final version.
yes, use the branch in your inventory that you get after you meet zhao yun
oh thanks
Game feels incredibly janky coming right off of Sekiro
As much as I dislike Nioh-Souls comparisons and general shitflinging, to say that this is to Nioh what Sekiro is to Souls seems pretty spot on though.
Performance issues aside, I really liked how the game felt and parrying feels satisfying as frick once you're in the rhythm. I can see it becoming a bit too samey after a while, unless they put some variety in but the same thing applied to Sekiro too.
parrying is way too easy right now
It's like soul shield in stranger of Paradise
Shut up already homosexual
Who the frick even played that shit? i kept wondering what the frick "SoP" meant
sorry, I don't waste my time playing squareslop
Smists of Pandaria
>Who the frick even played that shit?
I would if I had a PS5 or it were available for pc without chink store.
Yeah, that's what I meant with a lack of variety to spice things up. Right now you can just wait for every attack and parry it easily without any issues, so there definitely need to be some moves that require a different approach.
Fluctuating FPS mostly due to horrible frame pacing, but otherwise 60fps on the Steam version. Disabling vsync both in the game and driver, while also setting a manual 60 fps cap in rivatuner/control panel or whatever else you use for that really helped smoothing that shit out though. So somethings definitely fricked with the engine's frame limiter.
Apparently the MS Store version has a 120fps cap and seems to run better in general, but I haven't tried it.
Game ran like shit on MS Store so I played the Steam version which ran even worse so I went back to MS store and now it runs fine, wtf?
Speaking of performence issues, what was it it your experience?
For me it was fluctuating fps regardless of graphics settings.
I meant to reply to you but somehow fricked it up kek.
Nice, hopefully they fix it in the final version.
is this like the souls demos where the difficulty is lower than the final product? haven't played a team ninja demo before
The Nioh demos had their difficulties changed pretty drastically multiple times between different beta tests and full release. The full game could be harder or easier than this demo, we can't tell what they're going to change.
I really, really hope it's gonna be harder. everything needs more hp and the deflect window should shrink a bit (but not to the level of the first demo)
Well if there are any feedback forms, start filling them out. I'm pretty sure most of their changes are based on them.
no feedback forms since this is just a demo not a beta you morons get what you deserve for complaining so much about the deflecting being too hard
This is important are there Japanese or even Chinese voices as an option? Because the fricking English voices in the footage I saw made my ears bleed
both chinese and japanese are available to choose i recommend chinkynese since it's based in chinkyland
I chose japanese because chinese is the ugliest fricking language on earth, i hate it so much
i agree but the game is based in china so i'm too autistic to not play with it
did they add chinese lip sync to the final game? the trailers didn't have it, that would bother me a lot more than "it's in china but they don't speak chinese!"
Nah, korean is worse for me, I dunno but sounds wrong somehow
Vietnamese sounds a lot worse than even chinese
Please remove this, you're ruining my narrative.
you know nioh 2 already had this
they just forgot to remove it, i'm sure they will patch this bug later
What? That's an in-game option?
I will now play your game.
>Devs blocked immissions of new threads to Steam Forum
Kek
>demo doesn't run at all, instant crash half a second after the game opens
welp
Either get the vp9 codec installed or upgrade your CPU.
have the codec already, no resource, be it CPU or RAM is maxed out. besides, i would expect at least to get to the damn menu, especially when i could run nioh 2 just fine
Had the same thing happen, turned on the hyperthreading, launched with 0 issues.
Or maybe just got lucky, happy that I finally got it running I beat it in a single session.
Remove any connection to any display outside of your main including monitors or virtualized displays like Splashtop, Citrix, etc
no other monitor connected
What's your resolution?
Set it to a 16:9 one
16:9 1080p, also forced the demo to run at 60fps in the nvidia panel, didn't change anything before or after
Apparently the Windows Store version works well try that I guess other than that, I'm not sure unless you don't have the vp9 codec from the store
>download from psn
>play it
Works on my machine
>Niohgays and Soulsgays are both shitting on the combat system in the forums
Lol what a blunder
>elitists butthurt about something
What else is new.
You gotta give it a few months and maybe we'll get genuine opinions on the game. Soulsgays and Niohgays are utter cancer that have been arguing with each other for years and neither side ever has any good points. Basically anyone who brings up a Nioh or Souls comparison should just be ignored.
wo long does a good job being shit on its own, it doesnt need to be compared to other games
but it's great
And yet, that's the crux of all most complaints.
The Niohcuck is afraid
just finished the demo
the best boss was the club guy, the pig was way too easy
definitely has the potential for more fun combat than sekiro, but I think I'll have to wait for lategame to see how it compares to nioh 2
runs kind of shit though, was hoping I could run it as easily as nioh 2. Sometimes it stutters a bit in combat. Magic seemed very weak, but that will probably change later in the game
the demo seems to be an early build, it doesn't support DLSS or 120fps despite the final game doing so. really fricking dumb of them, gives people a bad impression
apparently the windows store version of the demo has 120fps and they said dlss would be added later with a patch, so there's no reason to assume the demo is an early build
what the frick I thought it would have it at launch. god damn japs
The MS store version has 120 fps lol. It fricks up the menus though.
I also had in game flickering issues even when I set it to 60. The ui would flicker and in the boss arena the moonlight was flickering
did they make a 2nd demo or is it out?
I wouldnt say the game is shit, but it doesnt do anything I would consider interesting either. I feel thats an issue with most games in this genre though.
The demo is definitely on the easier side tho. Will the game be harder later to justify the new parry frames? Maybe, but at the moment it is too good . People shouldnt forget that there's a block button. SoP at least gave some benefits to it with certain weapons/classes IIRC
i hope you preorder morons learned your fricking lesson
I actually pre-ordered it because of the demo lmao
but the demo is free, you actual fricking idiot
I'd preorder it right now if I had $70 to waste
demo is fun
Hello Black folk
does the demo have coop
Yes.
No budget C team asset flip trying to emulate Sekiro and pander to China. Safely discard it into the trash where it belongs.
so it's not just Chinese Nioh?
it's Chinese Nioh but Sekiro
It's just Chinese shovelware larping as Sekiro made from flipped and reskinned Nioh 2 assets. 4/10 game at best.
brain dead
anon, the free demo is out. you cant hide behind "you havent even tried it" anymorw
I never said that. You're assessment is something a brain dead moron would say and you did. I would put you probably around 80iq.
Yeah, where the frick is Jack's game though.
fromdrones sure are uppity today
For action RPG we have Nioh and soulshit
For pure action we have Ninja Gaiden and Sekiro
Wo Long did nothing good, it's trash.
Right?
I like the feel of the combat, my biggest grip are the poor environments, hate me but From is just on a different league in that regard
Also lock-on barely keeps up with the flow of the combat
Can you do a barehanded fist build?
no
Had fun with the demo but combat seems too samey, and easy, pig boss was a joke
Feels like it should have another phase or something. It had like 3-4 attacks total.