This is a good game, but it's blatantly obvious that people are willing to ignore serious flaws just because it's made by Nintendo. The worst part is performance. After several updates, botw still suffers from constant framedrops, which are unexcusable for a first party game. Other minor annoyances include but are not limited to: breaking weapons, useless horses, bad horse controls, lack of background music which makes the game feel too silent and inconsistent voice acting. A game like this could not get 10/10 on any other platform than Nintendo.
6 years of seething lma0o
FPBP
Complaining about BotW's minimalist music is a sure giveaway that you're an uncultured underage pleb who should stay in school.
>you do NOT want to have repetitive blaring music playing while you're playing BOTW for 80-100 hours.
skyrim has several different music tracks and this was never a fricking problem. there is ambient music and then there's botw's pretentious piano note every few seconds bullshit. people have every right to complain about the OST when Zelda is famous for its catchy music.
>be this guy
>playing botw
>hear a single piano note
>instantly shits himself out of anger
>be overly defensive zoomer with shit taste
>hear piano note every few seconds
>OMG THIS MINIMALIST "MUSIC" IS BRILLIANT AND FITS THE TONE OF THIS DEPRESSING AND LONELY HYRULE
>shits himself when people point out how heavily flawed the game is
im dont like the music, im just saying its ok you fricking idiot
as long as you don't like the music direction that works for me
It’s not so much the single piano notes that bother me, rather the more fleshed out tracks where it sounds like a cat is walking across the keyboard. At least the parrot’s accordion song was nice.
Filtered
Skyrim's soundtrack is really bland and designed with broad appeal in mind so it's generic as frick. BotW's soundtrack at least tries something a bit different and memorable but it's far from perfect (needed more overworld music, less focus on minigame-specific music that you hear once and never again). I honestly think they should've experimented with procedural music, inatead of half-assing some randomized timing offset in their music.
The music was uncanny, not enjoyable.
>Zelda fans rightfully upset about the drastic change in direction for the franchise, making it more like a generic open world formula no less
>"SEETHING"
frick off Black person
>Zelda fans rightfully upset
No they're not. REAL Zelda fans loved BotW. Go play Skyward Sword you lying chump.
shut up zoomer Black person. you're not a zelda fan just because you started with botw.
No Zelda fans were rightfully upset about a drastic change in direction because Breath of the Wild really isn't a particularly drastic change in direction.
FPBP. Just look at the "complaints" in this thread. Holy shit lol
point them out moron
FPBP. Whenever I see someone trying to make up criticisms for this game it immediately gives an insight into their juvenile philistine mindset.
You don't need to reply to yourself
Could you be any more obvious?
>NOOO YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT A GAME THAT DEFINES MY PERSONALITY
>Ganker called my game shit again
>Get called a crybaby
>"You acknowledge me crying, so I win!"
I'm sure on some planet your cope is quite impressive. But your weak link is: this is Earth.
Stream that film if you're so great
not as bad as switch owners whining about persona 5 since 2017
OP BTFO
I like weapons breakings, after 30 minutes in the game you have enough weapons to use without think about it (and it is a surviver game).
Horses sucks. And music, well, you should hear sounds to get the clues, so it has sense.
it's not about running out weapons, it's about constant menu opening to switch to new weapons that ruins the flow of fights.
I would agree that BotW's weapon management is a little clunky and breaks the player's immersion.
But frick sake, this is such a trivial thing to complain about. Most people won't even fricking notice something like that. This board is terrible for these ridiculous nitpicks, as if people here can't handle reality and need to convince themselves that BotW somehow didn't deserve all of its acclaim and success. After 5 years I haven't seen a single convincing argument against this game.
>After 5 years I haven't seen a single convincing argument against this game.
I have several
>90% of enemy encounters are the same 3 enemies
>4 main bosses that are all ganon blights,
>4 overworld mini bosses
>last boss is just another fricking ganon blight
>all shrines look the same, have the same music, and are just 1 or a couple puzzles with no enemies aside from the occasionally shitty guardian scout
>4 dungeons that all look the same and are like 20-30 min long and the puzzles always involve just activating all the terminals
>rewards are all worthless because they're either temporary, or completely unnecessary because the game is baby difficulty with a broken armor system and the ability to hold dozens of full heal meals
So you actually claim that most people do not notice that every weapon breaks after killling three enemies or destroying one crate? That mechanic makes all weapon rewards pointless, because no matter how good weapon you get, it's going to break anyway.
>every weapon breaks after killling three enemies or destroying one crate
Webm-related. Player wipes out an entire camp without a single weapon breaking. Now he has tons more weapons, bows, ammo and loot.
Do you think people who played the game don't know you're lying and full of shit?
Doesn't matter, it still makes weapon rewards pointless.
>a net gain in weapons is pointless
Elaborate.
I'm not talking about that webm, I'm talking about weapons you get from shrines, quests etc. The game devalues those weapons, as you are going to lose them anyway in a while. If the system was so great, why didn't they implement it on armors? "Here's your armor which lets you swim up waterfalls, but you're gonna lose it after 10 uses". It's a bad design choice. If they would at least let you repair the weapons, it would be much better.
Because nearly all armor is passive and more designed as a cosmetic.
Repairing weapons is a thing, you can repair what are arguably the best weapons in the game (the champion weapons) and nobody bothers repairing them since repairing weapons is a pointleas endeavor. Sure, you lose weapons after a while but gain new ones constantly so a repairing system is redundant in the game.
>it still makes weapon rewards pointless.
No it doesn't. Weapons have utility beyond combat. I would always keep a Flame Blade handy for keeping me warm in cold climates, or to melt ice or quickly light a campfire.
And even then certain weapons types can drastically change enemy encounters. Trying to fight a Lava Talus without any ice weapons is a whole different ball game.
Weapons will always be attractive and rewarding for players to seek out because of their functionality.
I think the combat would be a lot more fun if you were doing the weapon switching in order to adapt to what you're fighting IE needing a spear to reach mounted enemies, needing to switch to take advantage of elemental types, etc. Instead, you're just switching weapons 2-3 times per fight when they break. I don't mind durability on weapons, but having each weapon be spent and permanently lost after killing 3 enemies is ridiculous. Would at least be better if broken itms stayed in your inventory and you could repair them back in town so you wouldn't hesitate to use your good stuff when you need them for fear of burning them up.
I don’t like weapon breaking. At the end game 8-9 weapons are just stashed because I don’t want it to break and I only use the awakened master sword plus 1 shitty weapon whenever it’s recharging. I hope they give weapons a bigger durability bar and an easier repair system.
I recently played the game for the 1st time and I don't understand the complaints about weapon durability. By the time i did my second divine beast my weapons hardly ever broke and even when they did they were always equally good ones I would find pretty quickly. Is this just an autism thing of people being to attached to their weapons ?
People just want something to complain about so they'll make shit up.
>when they did they were always equally good ones I would find pretty quickly
That's the problem, it's a solved mechanic with no challenge that just adds a minor inconvenience if anything.
What's especially wrong though is that this mechanic still applies to Amiibo weapons. Soft resetting is an unintended work around for multiple scans per day, so if you were playing by Nintendo's rules you could potentially spend a week or more scanning your Amiibo, finally get your special weapon and lose it in half an hour.
>Is this just an autism thing of people being to attached to their weapons ?
Probably yes, I'd just rather find a weapon design I think is neat and use it for my playthrough than stock up on swords because I'm planning on fighting some monsters. If you've ever fought a Gold Lynel you'll find it practically melts through swords.
I forgot to add, I've played through BoTW both on an actual Switch and emulated on Cemu. I felt like I had more freedom of choice with weapon durability turned off and felt much more interested in exploring when I turned stamina off. Stamina is another solved mechanic since you can just craft stamina refill foods.
>I felt like I had more freedom of choice with weapon durability turned off and felt much more interested in exploring when I turned stamina off.
Fricking hell. Just play Resident Evil with Infinite ammo too.
Combat is built around weapon breaking, throwing a sword at the head of an enemy gives it a 4x damage multiplier.
>That's the problem, it's a solved mechanic with no challenge that just adds a minor inconvenience if anything.
I see your point but chances are whatever you find isn't going to be the exact same weapon so theres still an element of discovery to be had which was obviously an important goal of the game.
>I'd just rather find a weapon design I think is neat and use it for my playthrough than stock up on swords
I can understand that, hopefully in BOTW2 we can get a system allows you to upgrade a weapon to make it unbreakable, or at least give broken weapons some utility, like maybe they give some materials that can be used to upgrade other weapons or something.
What if Links arm is a weapon now also to mitigate having breakable weapons so you'll always have something? Maybe that's how they'll incorporate spells this time.
>I like this mechanic, it's completely pointless except for making you open a menu sometimes after the first half hour
Holy shit dude think.
I don't mind weapons breaking either.
But here's how it should work in BotW2, they break but they're not gone for good.
You can ask a blacksmith to repair broken weapons, higher level = higher cost.
This is a dumb idea.
Halfway into the Hebra mountains your sword breaks. What are you going to do? Skulk all the way back to the nearest town to find a blacksmith and then trudge all the way back to where you were?
BotW's durability is fine. It filters plebs. The only change I'd make is maybe double the durability. Thats all.
>Halfway into the Hebra mountains your sword breaks. What are you going to do?
Use a different sword in my inventory?
"But what if they're all broken?"
>climbing Hebra Mountain completely unprepared for some reason
>my last sword breaks
>I have two choices
>throw one away and replace it
>go down to the blacksmith and prepare
The point of the system I introduced was to allow players the following:
>have to outweigh the choice of potentially holding on to a broken weapon they like till they can repair it or get rid of it to make space for a new one
>can make a business of finding weapons, upgrading them, then selling them for a tidy profit
>I have two choices
How in the frick could you get to a point where you lose all your weapons without picking up new ones?
Regardless, there's more obvious choices. You can pick up a stick from the ground. You can use your runes. You'll soon find new weapons if you just keep moving forward.
>How in the frick could you get to a point where you lose all your weapons without picking up new ones?
See
>Halfway into the Hebra mountains your sword breaks. What are you going to do? Skulk all the way back to the nearest town to find a blacksmith and then trudge all the way back to where you were?
It's dumb hypothetical that I answered with common sense, then explained how it could add weight in an extreme scenario where some moron climbs a mountain with all but one of his weapons broken.
There's weapons everywhere bro. You can't possibly run out of weapons. You can literally use a tree branch.
Dude you have got to be fricking with me.
Do you understand what "hypothetical" or "extreme scenario" means?
These "hypothetical scenarios" don't exist in the game. BotW is designed with survial aspects so that the player is constantly scavenging to survive and live off the land. This is the game.
A fricking blacksmith to repair weapons is a nonsense idea. Its at complete odds with the design of the game, it needlessly complicates a streamlined inventory system and it adds FRICK ALL to the game.
I'm sure they tested blacksmiths at some point, the system is there with the champions weapons, seems showering you with weapons proved more effectivr.
No more (you)'s for you after this one, you're either disingenuous as frick or a fricking moron.
Probably both.
homie you ain't fricking kidding holy shit.
You're arguing with a legitimate mental case who has been posting and reposting the exact same things for multiple years
>Other minor annoyances include but are not limited to: breaking weapons,
you forget other annoyances like
>frostbite
>enemies
>running out of hearts
>not having enough rubies
why people still whine about weapon juggling, Zelda isn't and shouldn't be an RPG
this, the only real problem is weapons are made out of glass and durability loss should be way lower for anything that isn't an enemy.
So there's a mechanic that does not matter, but it makes you navigate the (terribly designed) menu every few minutes. So why is it there in the first place?
>navigate the (terribly designed) menu every few minutes
don't you just hold right on the dpad to quickly switch weapons? Don't see what's so terrible about that.
nta but being forced to pause the game and decide on what weapon to break next is not what I want to be doing in the middle of combat.
The simple fact is that you use the D-pad not to navigate the menu, but just to open it already raises some questions.
That might be one of the stupidest takes i've seen on here. Having to pause to switch weapons is a little annoying sure, but the dpad having a use outside of when you're already paused isn't bad in the slightest.
I'm currently playing through it for the first time and I'd agree with all your points as well. I would add that it also has a bad control scheme in general. I constantly fumble through what I'm trying to do because I'm too used to conventional Zelda controls. Who thought that Y would be good for an attack button when it's historically been B? B is also for running now when it should be more like A, or at least use A for jumping, but no, that's X! R for throwing things? Constantly having to swap through weapons and items and accidentally calling your horse in the process? It's a fricking mess that is not very intuitive at all.
Yeah the control scheme takes some time to get accustomed to. Skyward sword gets so much hate, but even that had better controls.
>Skyward Sword had better controls
>lack of background music
The background music is perfect. It's minimalist, you do NOT want to have repetitive blaring music playing while you're playing BOTW for 80-100 hours. You'd get sick of it real fricking quick.
Your other complaints are subjective nitpicks.
It is an objectively bad game which retroactively devalued the entire history of zelda games.
gg no re.
Nah
have a nice day, Arthur.
Seriously, why haven't mods perma rangebanned him yet? This shit is ridiculous. Do him, these threads, and this board a favor. It's not frickin healthy
There is no Arthur. You frickers seem to think every BotW fan is Arthur. *I've* been called Arthur for frick sake. BotW has a lot of fans.
>it's actually different people posting the same cropped headlines from obscure web articles and blogs
>obscure web articles
Feel fricking free to google Breath Of The Wild if you doubt its popularity. Go on, try it. Let us know what you find.
And screenshotting his own posts to spam in every thread like that fpwp lma0o
Act like arthur, get called arthur, it's not rocket science. And you know exactly who he is, if you truly aren't him yourself.
I think we've had enough of your posts, Arthur.
> Plays perfectly on PC with emulation
> Runs at 4K/120 fps
> 1 click install mods
> Disable weapon damage and stamina
> Disable cell shading
Unironically best game as of 2022. Nothing comes close.
cell shading
Why the frick would you do that?
The Zelda staff has a history of taking fan feedback to heart, often to the point of over-correcting, and Breath of the Wild may have been another over-correction. Like Ocarina of Time, it founded an all-new way of playing Zelda, but unlike Ocarina of Time the content on top of that foundation isn't particularly strong when you examine it.
It's the kind of game that leaves so much room for improvement that it could be rendered obsolete by a good sequel, and for me that means bringing back more of the old Zelda magic, and Skyward Sword just happens to have the kind of content that Breath of the Wild was sorely lacking. So if the Zelda staff is still listening, it would be a good idea not to make Skyward Sword seem so toxic that they avoid touching it at all costs, and it would be good not give Breath of the Wild's shortcomings a free pass in light of all the great things it accomplished.
Thanks for posting Nerrel
Only good post I’ve ever read on this entire website the decade I’ve been here. You seem like a pretty alright guy, anon
It's been years and I still can't get over how terrible "climbing" in BotW is. In other games like Horizon you need to actually interact with the game and look for the way up. In BotW you just hold a button lol. Who the frick thought it's a good idea?
Meh. The whole "stamina" shit that showed up in Skyward Sword was annoying already then, and it isn't much fun in BotW either.
Climbing isn't really a mechanic though. It's just a means of getting to places, and rather quickly in the game you won't need it very much.
the eternal nintendo fan
BOTW is one of my favourite Zelda games, but there are a few things that annoy me.
>roaming Dragons have no purpose except tedious material farming
>Korok seeds (you can get enough to expand all inventory slots without actually searching for them, but my autism forces me to look for all 441 early on)
>camera controls and lockon are a bit fricky sometimes, especially against bosses
>Trials of the Sword boils down to cooking wood 90% of the time
>upgrading equipment at the fairy fountains takes unnecessarily long
I love the freedom of dicking around and exploiting shit in this game.
The game still runs like shit on both Yuzu and Ryujinx, don't care, only when the decompilation project completes am i even going to look at it.
what about cemu u nonce
2022 and Ganker still mad.
>crops the name of the author because some troony wrote it
lol thank you google
Child everyone wrote articles like this. BotW is one of the most acclaimed and celebrated video games in the history of mankind. Why are you still in denial about this?
>crops the author again
lol stop hiding the trannies
>crops the author
LOL its EDGE magazine, the most respected publication in the gaming industry.
>respected publication
>in the gaming industry
lol
LMAO even
>Jealous NPC schizo seething for 6 years on a hentai pedo board
My sides
>2010-2020
>botw the best game
oh i'm laughing.
I'm laffing at you. 6 years is a long timecto be upset.
>last of us
>botw
thanks for proving my point
Sucks to be you. BotW and LTOU are easily two of my favourite games of the best decade.
Looking forward to BotW2 and TLOU Remake.
Why do you come to a video game board if you hate great video games?
>thinking he special since he likes botw and tlou.
Anon, I
>these universally acclaimed and massively successful and beloved games are secretly shit!
/v/tards, not even once.
cropped the author again
There's no author, that's something he made
Unironically defend the combat, korok seeds or shrines
>no replies
>Entertain me
Frick off attention prostitute
>no arguments
whew, that was easy
Idk, this is the best open world game to date and I didn't have any mentioned problem except maybe voice acting. But it's not storytelling game anyway.
It's a good game in spite of the fact that it's a filler game.
>No real effort the expand on the game's mechanics or content past the tutorial
>Systems like the weapon based combat are pretty much stretched to the breaking point and frequently don't mesh with the rest of the game like elemental weapons, horses or your inability to sneak into the Gerudo settlement at all without crossdressing in a very specific outfit in a game that massively emphasizes your own freedom
>A lot of the main content has just the bare minimum of effort put into them like the Shrines and Koroks
>Plot is just "Oh no Ganon is back and you were asleep but these Japanese game designers left you some puzzles to solve that will make you stronger"
>Massively lacking in variety for bosses and regular enemies
>Vestigial tablet based menus and items hinting at the fact that it's derived from a cut-down Wii U showcase game
This criticism is largely predicated on the idea that BotW2 will fix these issues and show they were holding back because anything but a reviewer friendly multiplat game would frick up the Switch launch. If they don't then there are just two fairly good open world games and they weren't saving all their work or anything like that.
This is an interesting post. I don't think that Nintendo was holding back, though it is true that they produced an extremely accessible open world game. Zelda games were never inaccessible, mind you, and the director and producer are on the record stating that when forming the team, they were going for people with diverse hobbies and not hardcore gamers, so accessibility was a natural by-product if not a primary design goal.
My expectations for the sequel are a bit low, I think that people on this board generally underestimate what BotW accomplished in the open world scene, and I can't imagine that the sequel won't be simply a sheer refinement of the original with not much mechanical complexity added other than better bosses and enemy variety. There isn't too much fat to trim, BotW is already an extremely lean game with an intense focus on gameplay first, and the sequel should reflect this quality. Conversely, there is also not much to fatten, people already find BotW an overwhelming game to get into, which paradoxically dissuades many normals.
Some systems I believe are very misunderstood like weapon degradation, which was an intelligent but ultimately imperfect answer to the problem of loot in open world games by converting weapons into weapon ammo. This theoretically makes sense, but the economy is skewed towards the player for obvious reasons. I'm not even sure how they'll address this in the sequel, I don't think you can reintroduce a permanent arsenal of tools without complete reconsideration of their original open world approach. This is the one thing I'm most curious about in the sequel, to be honest.
BotW isn't a perfect game and unfortunately I feel that I have to repeat this more times than I want to. To me one of the worst offences was that it wasn't allowed to be the true swan song for the Wii U given how they utterly gimped gamepad functionality. But it is still a fascinating game that anons underrate for really silly reasons, I feel.
People need things to hate.
Best not to know too much about them, and just hate them for stupid reasons.
>what BotW accomplished in the open world scene
Absolutely nothing
Go ahead, list what it accomplished
Okay, but first name 5 better open world games so that I can understand where you're coming from.
Vice City
San Andreas
Morrowind
New Vegas
Bully
lmao 3 rockstar games, two of which are identical, really?
Will Nintendo drones stop citing BotW as one of the best games ever when BotW 2 is out?
Will people stop saying it about GTAV when GTAVI comes out?
Or about Skyrim when TESVI comes out?
Guess we'll never actually know.
Those devs just gave up completely on following up their crazy success.
Huh, I never thought of Bully as an open world game. But I guess that it is. Regardless, I think I can picture what kind of a gamer you are, assuming you're being truthful. And indeed BotW isn't the kind of game that would deliver the "attitude" you're after, it isn't interested in lore or moral choices or RPG granularity.
As for what BotW accomplished, it's an extremely fun sandbox open world which benefits immensely from the Nintendo polish and delivers a feeling of adventure unlike any other game. Many sing its praises for good reason, it's an open world refined almost to perfection.
It's a Ubisoft game with none of the content, it's Minecraft with none of the freedom.
I see, so you were simply amusing yourself with a bit of trolling. Have fun, lad.
why? There are innumerable articles online of people doing that and also countless praise by other developers on how great the game is. If commercial success, critical acclaim, industry acclaim, fan approval and an infinite amount of articles and videos explaining why it's great don't convince you, why the frick should anyone bother typing out anything in response so that you can say:
>nope that doesn't count
it's a waste of everyone's time.
When the word "sheeple" was invented, you are what the author was thinking of
rather that than a moronic contrarian. I'm not saying the game is good because is has these things, I'm saying there are plenty of explanations on why it's good that have been written over the last 6 years while you were seething.
There have been countless articles and essays written about how Black Panther is brave and important for being the first black superhero movie, none of them change the fact Blade had a successful movie trilogy before Spider-Man did
>completely unrelated thing from a different industry that literally only matters to americans
ok, i don't give a shit
>nuuuuu only *I* am allowed to introduce completely unrelated things as arguments, no one else!! it's not fair it's not fair it's not fair!!!
Heh, okay bab
>discussing quality of botw
>i talk about botw reception
>you talk about super hero movies and USA race relations
your transition is fricking with your brain, go dial 8
You deflected the argument to an unreliable outside group of people, I simply pointed out that they are unreliable and gave an example of a similar gaslight they pulled
What outside group of people? You picked out tabloid news, which wasn't even a group I mentioned. I mentioned the videogame fanbase, the critics, and other developers. If you think ALL of them are unreliable, then wtf even is the point of discussing anything with you? Would my arguments be reliable even though nobody else's are? It would be a huge waste of time, which was my point in the first place.
Don't waste your time, anon. It's not worth it.
The Venn diagram of the people who thought Black Panther was new and revolutionary and the people who thought BotW was new and revolutionary is a circle. If anything the movie critics and creators who praised BP were *more* respected in their fields before spouting such bullshit, normie journos, creators, and gamers have always been a joke and Ganker has never taken them seriously until the casuals started invading.
No this is just fricking nonsense.
Black Pather did not have its peers celebrating it. If anything fellow film making giants like Martin Scorsese have nothing disdain and scorn for it.
On the flip side, literally everyone in the gaming industry fawned over BotW.
COPE.
And who is this Martin Scorsese of gaming that praised BotW again?
E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E.
>the people behind AC, Fallout 76, and Cyberpunk 2077 praised it
>they are the game equivalent of Scorsese
You can't be serious
>Just ignore everybody!!!
Whatever helps you cope.
So no one, glad we cleared it up and that you were full of shit and only able to refer to people who were even more full of shit
>noone
>only the biggest names in gaming
Kek your cope is off the charts. Sorry but you are just a screeching NPC on a hentai pedo image board.
>NPC only able to relay the thoughts his corporate overlords broadcast to him accusing others of being NPCs
The definition of projecting
Sorry bruh but everyone who matters considers BotW a masterpiece.
You are nobody. An NPC. Your screeching is worthless and has no Impact on the world. Shame.
>BotW is a good game, corporate master #149923 said so
>do not question the corporate master
>corporate master
What corporate master? I just posted from some of the biggest and most respected developers in the world. These are people who know far about gaming than some uneducated pleb on Ganker. These people talented professionals and aren't seething schizoid console warriors.
Why don't you accept their opinions? Hmm?
>accept the opinions of corporate overlords
>do not question the corporate overlords
Yeah I think we're done here.
Never give up. Year Seven is on the horizon. There's still hope for you.
when will Black person culture obsessed americans learn the world doesn't revolve around them?
>See this japanese game? The people that like it are the same as those that love this american movie about black people
unironically take your meds
Are you implying game journos and game devs are a high class of society or something? Lmao!
I'm not implying anything, I'm very obviously calling you a seething moron that makes absurd parallels. Either way, I'm done destroying you ITT, it feels like I'm just bullying someone with down's at this point.
the game is good but whoever decided on breaking weapons deserves to be shot.
also the game desperately needs dungeons, hyrule castle is the only one, the beasts are just big shrines.
>the game desperately needs dungeons
It has like, over 100.
no, a boring shrine where you put a ball into a slot is not a dungeon.
What is it? A room where you search for the eye to shoot an arrow at?
Copiest post I’ve seen in a while.
That’s not even the correct definition of dungeon. A dungeon is the tallest tower in a castle
I always thought a dungeon specifically meant a prison section, typically on the lower floors or underground.
So not the tallest tower necessarily, but the main building in a fortress.
That's good to know.
The English have fricky etymology. This isn't even the worst example, honestly. Look up "nice" for example.
Ignorance is bliss, anon
>the game desperately needs dungeons
It desperately needed a more interesting economics system and more fleshed out NPC interactions.
It has plenty of weird/dangerous areas and puzzle solving going on for my Zelda-dungeon itch to be scratched.
LoZ has been my favorite franchise since ocarina and I loved BotW. The game has flaws obviously, but it's still a fricking masterpiece. Can't wait for the second one, it's fricking annoying how long it's taking to come out.
the people that argue this game is the best are the same people arguing TLOU 2 is the best, when both games are highly mediocre and praised by game journos (morons).
it isn't terrible but it has MANY flaws
>NPC screeching
>This is the GOAT game but it's blatantly obvious that people are willing to ignore serious flaws like it's made by Nintendo
it's not even the best zelda game. OOT is far better.
Reset the clock.
Based
Cringe
>You called my game shit, making me the vicor!
Do you think Nintendo once again raise the bar for open world quality which will rush to copypaste with their botw 2 release as well as they did it with original botw release?
no
BotW2 probably won't have the same wow factor as the original. Probably more of a refinement than a revolution. But it will still be amazing.
probably not, most open world games play similarly now so people are used to the formula. if it doesn't deviate from it in a new and exciting way it won't have the same impact.
it will also be judged against elden ring which is unfair but if there's not multiple hyrule castle quality "legacy dungeons" then it's going to get a lot of shit for it from players and journos.
They already shat their pants when they saw Elden Ring and delayed BOTW2, so no lol
Yawn
>inconsistent voice acting
Honestly I've have to play it on mute if I hadn't modded in nip voices. Wtf were Treehouse thinking?
>modded in nip voices
???
The game has nip voices as an option, what are you modding it in for?
>The game has nip voices as an option
Didn't when I played it.
I think it got it shortly after launch, like version 1.1 or whatever.
>useless horses, bad horse controls, lack of background music which makes the game feel too silent
I don't agree with these complaints at all, because I love the way horses work in BotW and the background music thematically works, but it would have been great to be able to rebuild Hyrule which is something they had planned and then the music could have came back slowly building up with more instruments. Otherwise the breakable weapons fans ability to beat the game at the start got in the way of them putting in actually unique weapons and cool things to unlock other than the Champion abilities and Master Sword. There's also a lack of Overworld Bosses that are unique and having secret ones in caves that don't exist in the game would have been based, especially if they dropped unique weapons. I was also hoping Blood moons were going to be an event that makes enemies invincible for a night where they all resurrect.
>bad horse controls
Top kek I keep seeing this posted in BotW threads. The horse controls are GREAT.
I'm honestly convinced you fricking morons don't know that when you catch a wild horse it WILL NOT obey you until you bond with it. Its not the controls. The horse just doesn't like you lmao
I have horses with maximum bond and it still feels clunky. Most of the time it's just faster to climb high and glide than use a horse. And the fact that horses become useless if there are boulders makes it easier to not use them.
Yes its pretty annoying. I go mountain climbing my horse all the time in real life.
Do you also swim up waterfalls all the time in real world? And it doesn't even need to be a mountain for the horse to stop.
Horses jump over small obstacles automatically whilst galloping, and you can get them to finesse steep slopes by holding the trigger down.
I'm prefacing this by saying I'm a fan of BOTW
>the worst part is performance
spitting straight facts
>breakable weapons
Unironically one of my favorite features in the game. I play to get good and I love having a good excuse to throw my weapons and not have to go fetch them after. Breakable weapons and the boomerangs were both great features imo.
>useless horses
the horses were cool and all but shield surfing was fricking awesome. I wish shield surfing didnt affect durability. should have been a more core mechanic. it made horses a little lame.
>lack of BG music
I personally liked the quiet score. but admittedly the classic zelda music is part of why hyrule castle was such a memorable highlight of the game.
>inconsistent voice acting
putting it lightly. the characters and writing were just... a bit shit really. Truly. I cared more for the beetle dude than I did for any of the voice acted characters.
>10/10
I feel like 10/10 implies it perfectly executes what it sets out to do. and it really doesnt. I mean compared to a lot of other similar titles it's the best in terms of open world mechanics. but in terms of what it could be it feels ambitious but unpolished.
It's a 9. It went a very long way, but it could've used a few tweaks here and there.
I love the weapon durability mechanics in BOTW because it reminds me of STALKER SoC alot.
That said, I don't like the repair mechanics in CS, CoP and any mod.
World too big and too empty. Half the game is a walking simulator. Poor enemy variety. Damage sponge enemies that make the Brutes in Halo 2 look soft. Weapons break too quickly. More music needed. Clothing upgrades are a pain in general.
Open world colletcathons are a bad path to follow. Nintendo make a mistake. Breath of the Wild is still my favorite game from 2017.
I think 99% of the issues are that this is Nintendo first big open world, so their inexperience meant that they didn't have much time left after finishing actually building the world.
Hopefully BOTW 2 fills the world with the content it needed and isn't glorified DLC.
>glorified DLC
I'm actually a bit worried Nintendo will go that route. Releasing large scale, but barebones, games and then asking more money to pad the rest of the world.
This kind a sequel is a first for Zelda, so I guess we'll have to see. Zelda 2 and Majora were completely different games, but BOTW 2 is building on top of the first one.
>showcased nothing but sky islands in the preview introducing even MORE empty space
I fear the worst, anons.
You have rather little reason to.
>This kind a sequel is a first for Zelda
We don't know much about what type of sequel it is at all.
>We don't know much about what type of sequel it is at all.
You really think they're going to build an entirely new world after all the time they spent on the first one?
You guys are moronic if you want to both complain about the first world being empty, and pretend it's difficult for them to build a different one for a game that comes out six whole years later.
The world itself is massive and would have taken a lot of time and effort to build. It's the content IN the world that it lacking.
You actually have no idea about what takes time to make and what doesn't.
I will discard your irrelevant concerns.
>lists all the unique content - more unique content than other game had in 2017.
>noooooo that doesn't count!!!
6 years later this nonsense is pretty boring.
It took them 3 years to design BotW's world, devs stated this outright - 2 years dev time on engine/physics, 3 years on the world.
So you think they'd throw away three years of work?
No, they're clearly reusing the world and adding new sky and underworld to it. Time travel is a likely possibility.
Dark world would actually be great, I hope they don't frick it up.
>No, they're clearly reusing the world
No, they are not clearly doing that.
They showed a few early teaser shots of enemy types, that were set in an area plucked from BotW's map.
They are reusing the world, it's just not the only world.
We have rather little reason to believe that they are reusing the world.
Except the fact they stated it outright, maybe?
They didn't.
They stated in interviews that it's set in the same hyrule, look it up Black person.
That doesn't mean it's the same map.
Just means it's the same continuity storywise.
>That doesn't mean it's the same map
>shows the same world
>says it's the same world
Are you being moronic on purpose?
I'm starting to think you're falseflagging. I don't even think it'll be as simple as just a remixed world, but it's still extremely clear that they are reusing the same hyrule overworld. I suspect time travel will be a major element.
They didn't ever state they're reusing the Hyrule map.
You're drawing baseless conclusions.
They both said and showed that they are using the same world as before. How is that a baseless conclusion to make when it's stated and shown clearly?
They didn't say AND they didn't show that.
You're just twisting some words and a few 2-second clips around to mean that.
Then where the hell do you think the sequel is going to be set?
In the sky and the underground, as show in the teasers, anon.
There will likely be ground segments too, but there's no reason to believe they wouldn't build new ones.
Yeah, with Hyrule in the middle you fricking blind moron.
Your posts are too stupid to be real.
You're not even making sense anymore.
They can use Hyrule without structuring it the same way as it was in BotW. It's not an issue.
Ignore him, he's willfully delusional.
Why do you WANT to believe it'll be the same map? What's in it for you?
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I think the game will involve time travel, given the leak from the spanish voice actor. The trailer also showed sky realm and implies a potential undergroind/underworld. If you beliece they are not going to be using hyrule kingdom though then you must be completely delusional.
They can use Hyrule Kingdom without using the same map.
It's consistently inconsistent in its layout.
No shit, it's almost like I said this before and you ignored it repeatedly.
No, it's not like that at all.
>but I'm not going to assume it does before they show us.
Well I am. That might be the difference between us.
They've never reused a map, and they have no reason to begin. So I'm going to assume they won't.
I hope this is bait. If everyone thought like you we'd have stagnated and never questioned or asked for anything better we'd still be living in caves and ironically we wouldn't have gotten the huge deviancy in botw to begin with, for better or worse.
What are you even talking about now?
Have some standards, don't just bend over and take it or that's all they'll do to you.
The game won't be any different whether I believe it will have new map or you believe it won't.
We're not at all talking about whether we like the games or want to buy them here, so a talk of standards is somewhat irrelevant.
Obviously one opinion isn't going to change things, but the opinion of many can. You are trying to hold things back by having blind faith and refusing to question what they've shown. If you want to truly keep enjoying these games, be willing to criticize. Corporations are more than happy to churn out the same product with marginal improvements and take advantage of their consumers if the consumer lets them.
>You are trying to hold things back by having blind faith
What are you even talking about?
I'm just saying that I'm willing to believe it's a new map entirely until something else is proven. I'll be somewhat upset and disinterested in the game if it isn't.
Also, are YOU writing angry emails about this to Nintendo, telling them they better make an entirely new map, or else you won't buy the game? Because otherwise none of our views on the matter are making a difference.
>I'll be somewhat upset and disinterested in the game if it isn't.
And by that point it's too late. Judge what they've shown and what they've said honestly. Otherwise you're only setting yourself up for disappointment.
What are YOU setting yourself up for if it IS a whole new map?
Having spent several years on the internet calling other people morons and false flaggers for no reason?
>What are YOU setting yourself up for if it IS a whole new map?
A pleasant surprise.
I don't know who you're talking about, but it's not me.
Fair 'nuff. Have a nice day.
Don't bother, Nintendo drones have been mindbroken ever since the N64 fiasco. You are not talking to a person with independent though or agency and there is nothing you can say or do to make them understand, Nintendo has done a fantastic job of conditioning them into a Stockholm syndrome relationship.
>No, it's not like that at all
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It's hyrule with new sky and underworld and (likely) time travel mixing things up. That's my speculation and I repeated it several times but was still met by asinine posts splitting hairs over the stipulation that hyrule is being reused.
I never said it wasn't Hyrule.
I just said it's very unlikely that Hyrule is shaped the same way it was in Breath of the Wild.
Really splitting hairs here.
Not at all.
The discussion I entered into was about whether the world map from Breath of the Wild will be reused in the new game.
I say it won't.
I'm NOT saying the game won't be set in the same theoretical and visual conceptualization of Hyrule, however,
At least parts of it are, that much is known and that's why I said what i said and I stand by those posts. Not even saying that's a bad thing, I'm just being realistic since I have eyes.
>that much is known
It is not.
>I'm just being realistic since I have eyes.
They show the backgrounds from Hyrule field shots of a combined length less than ten seconds. With plot point objects removed.
I'm willing to believe they just wanted to show the objects that were actually put in front of the camera, and that it didn't really matter WHERE they were shown.
>They show the backgrounds from Hyrule field
Anon, you can see Hyrule kingdom below in the sky realm scenes, and one of the ground scenes takes place in the Eldin region near the volcano. It's clear that hyrule is back and really fricking weird you keep trying to deny it.
I never denied that Hyrule is there.
I'm denying the notion that we can assume we wil be traversing the same map as was used in BotW.
>They've never reused a map
>what is Link Between Worlds
A Link Between Worlds is not the same map as in A link to the Past, if that's what you're referring to.
It's very reminiscent of it, but that's clearly on purpose, to let people visit a nostalgic place after more than twenty years.
I don't WANT to believe it, I simply believe what I've seen and what they've said, rather than turn a willful blind eye to it. Things could change before launch sure, but I'm not going to assume it does before they show us.
Either that or a falseflag.
Why do you need to convince yourself of that?
Aonuma simply said the "same world".
Thats vague. Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass are set in the same world.
Again, do the fricking Math here. Do you honestly think Nintendo have spent 6 YEARS making a DLC pack? You seriously honestly think this?
He might not, but if he can sow seeds of doubt in others, he's likely happy.
>Again, do the fricking Math here. Do you honestly think Nintendo have spent 6 YEARS making a DLC pack? You seriously honestly think this?
No, I do not think this I even stated before that I do not think this at all. Does nobody fricking read reply chains anymore?
There's actually a lot of content though. It only needed a few more gear to collect.
You're fricking moronic. It's going to be BotW 1.5 with more empty space.
>It's going to be
BotW2 is going to be one of the best video games of all time.
You actually think Nintendo - fricking NINTENDO - have spent 6 years making a DLC pack for their crown israeliteel IP? You clearly haven't been paying attention for the past 40 years.
>You clearly haven't been paying attention for the past 40 years
homie, they've been making the same games for 40 years.
>they've been making the same games for 40 years.
Yes, so have Sony, what's your point?
based ESL Black person dabbing on westoids for a bowl of rice
>empty tech demo with neat physics engine and shitty mini games
It's main issue is that it doesn't have coherent content.
>The worst part is performance
Performance is very far from being the worst part of the game, anon.
Well I think that the constant framedrops are really annoying. Switch is just too underpowered.
These are some rather separate statements from whether something is wrong with the game itself.
You could argue that. But in my opinion they should have known the limits of the hardware and optimize the game with those limitations in mind. That kind of performance would be unacceptable for anyone else except nintendo.
It's not about who it's unacceptable FROM, it's about who it's unacceptable TO.
You don't have to play the game at all if you're unwilling to accept the performance.
>That kind of performance would be unacceptable for anyone else except nintendo.
Just quit with the fricking horseshit. BotW runs at a solid 30fps on Switch with a few minor dips in one or two isolated option areas.
Back in the 16-bit era games would constantly have slow-down and sprite flicker.
Every fricking game on modern 12 teraflop super consoles today has framerate issues.
You literally have to make shit up to complain about. I guess ALL games are shit.
>BotW runs at a solid 30fps on Switch with a few minor dips in one or two isolated option areas.
This is simply a lie. It's not few isolated areas, but instead it's happening everywhere. And the fact that consoles had framedrops on 16-bit era is just absurd. Most of the games didn't have save feature on that era, would you accept that for a modern game?
>Most of the games didn't have save feature on that era
What???
>Back in the 16-bit era games would constantly have slow-down and sprite flicker.
Maybe if you owned a SNES.
>Back in the 16-bit era games would constantly have slow-down and sprite flicker.
It was a different time back then. In current era where 1440p/144hz is the new standard, a game running at upscaled 480p and sub 30fps in inexcusable.
>1440p
>standard
1440p is the new 720p. It technically exists, but there's no content made for this resolution, and only a small fraction of people care about it for some reason.
>That kind of performance would be unacceptable for anyone else except nintendo.
what does this statement even mean? Because other developers constantly push out game with much worse performance than botw, so clearly it's acceptable.
but there aren't constant frame drops. The only place where framerate consistently tanks is in korok forest, otherwise it's stable.
Any place where there are multiple enemies and it starts raining the framerates drop.
nope, i remember the climb to zora's domain past all the lizalfos while raining and the entire segment was fine. It does occasionally drop if there are tons of enemies on screen and you blow stuff up but it's incredibly rare.
Saying the game has constant framedrops is just flat out false. During a typical playthrough, you'll have frame-drops issues about 1% of the time in total, if that.
Not even on the Wii U does it go down in performance when it rains. What are you even talking about?
NTA but the wii u version does have framedrops during storms in faron jungle.
True enough.
There's a LOT of foliage in motion and a lot of steam/mist going on during that.
If anything I think BotW should have had no overworld music at all. The repetitive piano ditties pissed me off.
>inconsistent voice acting
No. It’s consistently horrible. Like the only good voices were the dead gerudo hero and the dead Goron hero. The rest were pure cringe. Especially Zelda and her dad.
>He played the dub
>he pretends to understand japanese
You will never be japanese, weeb. You will never be a tbh onisan-kun-sama-sushi-arigato. You will always be kuso.
>American EOP literally cannot comprehend people knowing more than 1 language
lol
>177
>47
Why do you all do this to yourselves day in and day out? Do you enjoy giving the moron the attention he craves that much? Go do literally anything else with your lives.
>every body makes 3 posts
Do you think people come into a thread, make a single post, then close the tab? Frick off moron.
Arthur is 50+ and the sole driver of these threads
>useless horses
stop using teleports moron
They're useless with or without fast travel. They're abandoned every 3 seconds with how limited their mobility is, not to mention their inability to come to you without some shitty dlc only item.
>This is a good game
I don't think you really think that.
You don't actually sound like you played the game at all.
I don't think you're really a new IP.
You don't actually sound like a new IP at all.
I'm not, but I didn't actually read OP's pathetic bullshit until now.
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Juegos
It's okay, it does nothing new or revolutionary and the content is sparse and what little there is isn't really interesting, but it's polished from the technical side and the idea has potential. A better developer could make a good game using the same framework of gameplay.
6/10
6/10 is fair
Starts a rock solid 9/10
Loses half a point every 4-5 hours after that
Ends as a oh god why did I even bother 2/10
>Starts a rock solid 9/10
The great plataeu was the worst part, it got better the further away I travelled from it. Faron was the peak of the game (jungle, eventide island, lirelin village, dragon and its guarded shrine, just a great region all round), Gerudo desert and Hebra were also great and those too are at the far ends of the map.
>The great plataeu was the worst part
It was by far the best part. If you think it's the worst you only liked botw as a walking sim
The great plateau doesn't even have any minibosses besides a single talus. It has no sidequests whatsoever. It has no NPCs besides the king. Calling the great plateau the best part of the game is completely delusional.
>Ends
15 hours in I already felt like I saw everything the game had to offer, and I turned out to be right.
I'd say BotW is a pretty solid 3.5/10. Not a good game, but has potential to turn into something decent in the sequel.
6 years and not a single zelda game, the IP is dead and botw killed it
Fun fact.
You strip away the Zelda IP for the game and leave everything else the same and it's a generic 4/10 dogshit indie 'sandbox' title that no one cares about.
It already happened, suddenly people had a ton of complaints with the concept as soon as the Nintendo name wasn't attached to the game
I've played immortals, it has a disgusting amount of grinding and microtransactions to the point it may as well be a pay to win game. It's world design is piss-poor as well, doesn't even have settlements or NPCs beyond the few story characters. I do like the setting/concept, though, I just wish it was a good game beyond that.
>it has a disgusting amount of grinding and microtransactions to the point it may as well be a pay to win game.
Just ignore it
>It's world design is piss-poor as well
Reminds me of BotW
>doesn't even have settlements or NPCs beyond the few story characters.
Yeah I also didn't like how BotW only had superficial settlements and pointless Pokemon-tier NPCs that only said one generic line of dialogue and didn't matter, it's like neither existed at all
>I do like the setting/concept, though, I just wish it was a good game beyond that.
Same but for BoTW
Really?
You're coming in late to the thread and trying to compare Immortals to BotW purely on the grounds that "they're both bad"?
Do you perform with this ruotine?
>t. Ubijeet
That's obvious, but 4/10 is a bit harsh. It's an above average game, just nowhere near as good as some say it is
>but 4/10 is a bit harsh. It's an above average game
I disagree completely. It's a fricking sandbox tech demo with 2 work days worth of NPCs and storyline to trick you into thinking it's a full game.
A great foundation to start from, but on it's own I'd barely even call it a complete game.
Well let's see you do better.
You have a week.
Sure, give me a week and the full budget of BOTW.
I'll buy a generic setup off U5 store, release it as a game, and spend the rest of the cash on blow and hookers.
I'd love to see the results.
I had the best time preparing myself for the castle and roleplaying for that. Bought all anti guardian weapons and shields, I spent the night at the inn far from the castle, preparing my gear and hitting the air, then I went to sleep. When morning came I went through the fields with the white horse, fighting any guardian I saw and wearing the anti guardian armor. When I got to the castle it was almost night again and it started raining, with a little bit of thunder too for extra atmosphere. Got lucky there. The castle itself was good too of course but the buildup to it was even better for me.
Name one thing BotW does better than Minecraft. (you can't)
This is one of my favourite games of all time and I am the number 1 Nintendo hater on this board