This is all just some giant joke, right? We pretend to like this shit game for laughs?
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This is all just some giant joke, right? We pretend to like this shit game for laughs?
I know nothing of the remake or the surrounding hate around it. Inform me
The main complaints usually center around
- the tri-episodic nature
- the ending boss and minor changes sprinkled through the story relevant to the end boss which is essentially Fate. It's a pretty hamfisted way of telling the audience that the game is not a remake but more of an alternate retelling of the original game with lots of changes/additions in the future
-the general padding and filler sections put in that stretch a 5-8 hour section in the original to that of 40-50 hours
- Tifa's redesign
There are other things people b***h about but those seem the most popular.
Yeah the padding and the corridor walking from set piece to set piece is what made me put down the game. It's the epitome of the modern cinematic game
Frankly I don't understand the "corridor" complaint. The original Midgar section was extremely linear and corridor-y. If anything, FF7R usually has decent sized hubs where there are many outlets to venture to. Did people honestly expect it to be an open world free roam Midgar with all 7 sectors, top and bottom?
Outside of certain events you can generally backtrack to previous screens in the original. In what I played of 7R you couldn't. You'd walk down a corridor then a set piece, then either you fall down a hole or the path behind you caves in impeding any backwards movement. Sure the sector 7 slums was a small hub but outside that I felt like I was being railroaded by the game at every opportunity. Maybe it gets better later on but therev was no indication that it would get better and the design didn't sit well with me so I refunded it.
This is inherently wrong though. Chapter 14 is all the connected areas between Sector 5, Sector 6, Wall Market and a few other parts. Obviously 7 was destroyed and it doesn't really make sense to go back to some of the completed dungeons. The only real corridors exist between larger hubs of either settlements or free roam dungeons.
>Maybe it gets better later
This is a perfect example of b***hing about a game you didn't even play through.
>You have to play 30+ hours for all the walled areas to disable their barriers and "open up"
missed me with that shit, this is some XIII gran pulse cope
The levels open up as you play, you know like every game ever made. God you zoomers are insufferable.
>It takes 30 hours to "get good"
If a game isn't good from the onset it's not worth playing
You're a dense bastard I'll give you that. I never said the game opens up after 30 hours, if you actually played the game you'd know that. But I guess just b***hing about games that aren't Fortnite is all you're capable of doing.
It's called being intellectually dishonest, a very hot thing on reddit and Ganker
I did play the game and was railroaded by hallways for most of my time spent playing before I refunded. You're telling me I have to put up with that for 14 chapters before all the hallways are connected and I have freedom of movement. Nay, I will not.
>your telling me I actually have to play the game before locked areas of the map become unlocked
>No other game ever does this
Already moving goalposts from hallways to locked areas. Even you can't deny the linearity of Remake on a subconscious level. But GTAIII was yet another game I refunded so it doesn't do much for me
>Even you can't deny the linearity
Never did. All I said was I don't understand the problem people have with corridors in Midgar when Midgar was always corridors. FF7R is 100x more open than the original. You're making up new arguments over basic game progression, which is a staple in mainstream gaming.
>GTAIII was yet another game I refunded
Just admit you hate video games and leave it at that.
and there was nothing new there when you backtracked.
Personally, the issue isn't linearity per se. The sheer repetition of samey shit is the annoying part. Just take the entire reactor 5 section with that unnecessarily stretched walk-up to the air buster for example, with constantly repeating hallways that only exist to pad out game time. Shit like this completely ruins it for me.
That's not a "corridor" issue as much as it is a padding issue, which I did mention before. I agree the game is padded to oblivion. I just find the "corridor" complaint to be ironic as most FF7 areas had always been corridors.
The original Midgar was not corridors, and the original Midgar was not an entire game. It wasn't even a single disc. Frick right off with that bullshit comparison.
Explain to me how the pic I posted here
is less of a corridor than this
You picked one of literally 2 areas in the remake that attempts to have something resembling an actual layout and compared it to a single screen that's shaped like a T intersection, not a corridor which 7R is filled with. Who do you think you're fooling? Really, how fricking stupid are you that you think you're going to convince anyone that Midgar being linear in terms of objective means it's corridor shit like the tunnel with the crane arms in 7R?
...so that's s no then
I know you're trying to be clever, but it's not working for you. That line only works if you asked a yes or no question. Don't be too hard on yourself, everyone knows Nomura apologists are moronic.
>- Tifa's redesign
Wait really? I was under the impression that people liked her new outfit more than her old one. I assume those complaints are about her breastsize, right?
Yeah mostly about the breast size, but also just the general redesign as a whole
- sports bra
- pleated mini skirt
- spanks underoos
- thigh highs
I definitely prefer the older look but IMO she looks gorgeous regardless.
Tifa is the best feature this game brought. Aerith and Yuffie both come close second but that's my opinion so don't beat me up please
The "They took my Tifa tiddies away" argument has been such a pervasive thing for such a long time. Every new iteration of Tifa for the 20+ years after the game came out has been under an exaggerated level of scrutiny from internet arguments and it's just really silly in my opinion. Whether it's a vest she's wearing in Advent Children movie compressing her bust slightly or The Team Ninja character model etc etc, it's just a whole lot of bluster over nothing.
Whether or not it can be proven they brought her from a 34G to a 34F isn't really that appealing an argument and not anything you could argue IRL without people thinking you're a creep, which is why it's so pervasive HERE on the internet or in comment sections of costume mod videos or whatever degen comment pit you can find. It's just a weird waste of time. It's fascinating how the proportions of a fictional character can inspire content creators all across the political spectrum to make video essays on Tifa's goddamn breasts.
I liked her original outfit for it's bold simplicity, and I like her new outfit for the practical sportswear aspect, makes her more of a heroic sweetheart. I think the new outfit is more suitable overall. It shouldn't be a flashpoint of societal conflict.
People were annoyed like they are every time she is done in a modern game but its nothing compared to the other problems.
The gameplay homie, the gameplay. And the story
music is fantastic and so are the graphics.
its a souless husk, something that shouldn't have been
People wanted a faithful adaption of the original story. Instead they got a game that constantly tried to deviate from the original story, while time jannies tried to keep that from happening. In the end the time jannies are defeated, opening up further installments to the full broadside of Nojima's and Nomura's wild ride. In short, we reached full OC territory with Rebirth.
I think the initial shitstorm wouldn't even be one if they properly advertised Remake for what it was. Oh and hallways, hallways galore.
people wanted to play the same exact game but with good graphics, it wasnt like that so now they seethe
>people wanted a remake
>release a game and call it a remake
>it wasn't a remake
>people seethe
Seems logical though.
Yeah except people keep being purposefully obtuse. 'Oh you're just mad that it wasn't the exact same - the original game exists'.
Nah we're mad they didn't stay faitful to the narrative and marketed a remake and did a bait and switch for what was a stealth sequel.
>in before 'you're describing a remaster'
Explain how REMake is a remaster and not a remake
>in before 'Remake' was a noun not an adjective
They KNEW what they were doing and Nomura / Nojima aren't cute for saying that the 'Remake' in the title isn't descriptive rather than just a subtitle tee hee.
And by REMake I mean Resident Evil 1 Remake which made changes and updates and narrative additions but stayed faitful to the original story and lore.
>people wanted a remaster
>it was a remake
It's not actually a remake. It's a sequel.
Square sold a sequel as a faithful remake. Also spent marketing budget on getting shills to try and redefine the word "remake" as part of their damage control.
People wanted Final Fantasy 7 and got Kingdom Hearts 5 instead (Episode 1/3)
its not a proper remake, what we wanted was the resident evil 2 remake, what we got was advent children the game.
What we got was remake 2, moron
What made it shit? It looked fine to me.
I had fun, played through it 4 times, and I will play Rebirth and part 3. Other than sidequests and unfortunate inconsistent environment quality, the game is kino
>unfortunate inconsistent environment quality
I never played the original or the remake, did you mean that the remake isn't true to the original?
Pretty sure he means that some textures are kind of shitty at times and most npcs are a bit lower in quality.
Too bad the PS5 console design looks gay and modern, especially with the UI. I'd take shitty performance over that, not that the PS4 has good UI though.
my PS5 is sitting behind my monitors so I barely have to look at it, only when swapping discs, thankfully, I agree it's ugly, but oh well, I don't have the patience to wait 2+ years for timed exclusive to come to PC
Wtf are you talking about?
I think the PS5's console desgin + the user interface (mostly home menu really) sucks because modern, but in a gay way.
pic related
Okay so you're just talking about random shit unrelated to this thread, got it.
no, 90% of this remake is true to the original.
I meant literally environment quality as in assets, textures etc, you can tell the game was heavily gimped due to ps4/UE4 limitations
>90% of this remake is true to the original
Do you feel any shame at all over lying so blatantly?
>90% of this remake is true to the original.
>we
go away
if anything the joke is this place pretending it was a bad game that flopped when it was RPG of the year and one of the biggest most well-received games on PS4.
I've played through it several times and have gotten the plat trophy, I also have a save of the original FF7 right outside of midgar so my adventure can continue immediately after I finish, until I play part 2 on release that is.
It's a game for white men, so it's no surprise mutts seethe about it, especially """people""" like Dunkey.
10 hours in, trying really hard to like it but it's just an endless ride of cinematic moments, cutscenes, following NPCs, shimmying through narrow spaces and doing some hack'n'slash combat. The graphics are nice but the art style has been botched, most of the time the environments/characters look like stock assets, not Midgar. It's not a bad game and I'll definitely finish it but it really doesn't have anything to do with FF7 and I guess we will never get an improved version of the original game, which is sad since it's a piece of history.
God you sound whiney as frick
>I guess we will never get an improved version
Lucky for you, they are making a mobile game zoomer friendly version that IS a near identical version of the original that has updated graphics called Ever Crisis.
Does it have turn-based battles and it's the complete game?
The game will be released in chunks apparently. It's free to play, but there are microtransactions for cosmetics and I think weapons(idk if you can just earn them like most F2P games)
The combat does seem to be some mix of the current gameplay with a bit more emphasis on turn-based style. It transitions to new age graphics for combat, which is sort of similar to the original.
What the frick is with that screenshot.
>Scorpion Sentinel
>Aeris is there
>Blizzara, Fira, Curaga, Thundaga, Blizzaga
>6500-8000 HP
>654 DMG to Sentinel (With it even being weak to the attack)
>Looks like Aeris just used Blizzaga
>Sentinel is weak against Ice
Idk, just one of the few currently available. Here have another.
Now it's even weirder. Aeris has all the final spells, but Cloud has Lv1 Fire and Cure
It's not a Remake. It's a "remember this" game. You will go through a bunch of moments/stages that mimic the old game(s) (not just FF7 but compilation stuff and even AC) but it seems you can use different characters that you get somewhere else, go back and use them in sections they wouldn't have been. It's a mobile game and it's about the sections and fights itself. Character consistency is not important for this one.
100% this
tasteless zoomers will disagree but this is the truth
>shimmying through narrow spaces
I think every nu-game is required by law to have a few parts like that, zoomers can't get enough of it.
it has none of the crude charm and soul of the original game and loses the opressive cyberpunk aesthetic. The first cutscenes in the game depict midgar in the daytime wheras in the original you never ever see Midgar in the day.
>old good
>new bad
>sunlight bad
whew
yes, i have taste and not autism
that's debatable
>people want a facelifted version of a JRPG
>get 1/3 of a AAA corridorfest hack'n'slash with voice acting instead
Guise stop complaining! Just consoom and stop asking questions! CONSOOOOOOMM!! New games are better!!!
>Not playing the true remake
someone want to spoonfeed me? Nothings coming from looking for it myself
It took me a while to get accustomed to it. The tank controls and combat etc but once it clicked I really started to love it.
Played this game more than anything else recently and is the first game I've bought in a decade.
>tank controls
Are you in the right thread?
Yeah. Controller camera movement is sluggish. You get used to it but it can't beat the mouse. However, overall I wouldn't play this without the controller, it's mostly designed for it. To tell the truth I haven't even really tried to play it with the keyboard and mouse.
You don't know what tank controls mean.
I do. You're right they're not exactly tank controls. What do you want to call them?
Incidentally analogue control movements are better than keyboard and mouse. It's just analogue stick camera is horrible after using a mouse.
I've decided not to bother any more. I'm just going to discuss the game with others who did like it and ignore the rest. And also. go play the game and leave them in their echo chamber together.
You wanna take a second there and think about the irony of what you just typed?
Not really. I'm off to play.
Believe it or not, there are underage third world homosexuals that like Nomura's modern chuuni nonsense.
Also since Google knows I seethe over this every time a new thread is posted, you get articles like this being like 'oh it reimagined it's story instead of creating a remake, and that's a good thing':
https://www.thegamer.com/final-fantasy-7-remake-games-like-spiritual-successor/
Infuriating but not surprising gaming 'journalism' has these hot takes.
The gameplay and visuals were arguably a good remake, it's just the narrative changes that are abysmal (besides the entire bait and switch).
There's literally one guy who spends all their time white knighting Remake here. He's the exact same as Barry, but his game of choice is 7R.
He responds to every single critical post to tell them they're wrong and strawmans endlessly about "1:1 purists"
Spend enough time in these threads and you'll see the pattern.
by any chance is it the stupid homosexual who replies to everyone to say their criticism isn't valid because
>the original still exists
>they're making a gatcha mobile game
Yes indeed
So far, most of the major complaints don't have any merit. I'll critique 7R all day, but yall need to stop parroting that same autistic nonsense that Ganker is known for and make up your own opinions instead of the same old meme shitter points.
>most of the major complaints don't have any merit
>yall
>parroting the same autistic nonsense
>make up your own opinions
So you dismiss all criticism as "old autistic meme shitter points"?
You said you'll critique 7R all day, so how about you give us an example of one of these non-autistic non-meme non-parroting original critiques?
>He is defending the bug filled mistranslated 1997 version that is not even what the developers or story writers intended.
The original has plenty of major and minor problems, but we're not talking about that right now. Should I take this as a "no" then? No original critiques?
>complaining about the translation in the OG 97 game
yall need to stop parroting complaints and to make up your own instead of the same old meme shitter points
>FF has open world gameplay
>WTF THIS IS WORLD IS EMPTY AND HAS NOTHING IN IT
>FF has a more linear area's
>WTF THIS IS A CORRIDOR SIMULATOR
Can you Ganker homosexuals pick a side and stick to it when it comes to your """""""""Shitposting""""""""""
You are sounding more like real idiots instead "ironiclly" being one.
Final Fantasy 7 is overrated as frick. I've never understood why people hail it as one of the best games ever. It's just a good game, and that's all it is. After Disc 1 it gets bad, and after Disc 2 you may as well just stop playing. Nothing interesting happens in Disc 3 and after the final boss the game basically just ends.
Babbies first jrpg
True. Remake still sucks though.
I know. Saying the original was bad doesn't make the remake good. Who would try to argue like that? It makes no sense.
I think they're pretty much even but I enjoyed Remake a tad more because Aerith is really cute and finally gives Tifa some competition.
>and after the final boss the game basically just ends.
>after the final boss the game basically just ends
kek
>after the final boss the game basically just ends.
prime b8
Final Fantasy was never good
I mean we really should've known that Nomura would frick it up with 2006 style KH nonsense
groundhogday.jpg
It really is worthless. Some saying they love it. Some say they hate it, neither listening to each other.
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.
>neither listening to each other.
I asked
for one of their unique critiques and they disappeared. I'm happy to listen to others opinions but you get buttholes like him literally saying "nobodys points have merit"
Why even come here if you're THAT opposed to discussion?
Well I agree. I address peoples criticisms and explain why I love it. Then a few posts later people come in with same criticisms and carry on like I've said nothing.
These threads are impossible.
I also don't understand why others would continue to critique the game after I've told them that I liked it
I only played it for the nude mods. And it was worth it.
Is there a mod that only makes Barrett nude?
On first playthrough I didn't realize how often the game stops you by talking, walking through tight spaces, making you lift shit until I went back to redo chapters.
yes, the combat is a horrible abomination and the story was butchered too. we just needed a FF7 with better graphics and got this crap.
I liked it.
easily the best one,i got banned from Ganker for saying that once, it was totally worth it.
I can only play it for like 30 minutes at a time because all the awful anime tropes they added in are fricking painful. It's like the story was rewritten by some fricking teenage fangirl pulled straight from the early 2000s. That said, it is nice to see this world re-realized in modern graphics.
>awful anime tropes they added in are fricking painful.
Can you give an example? Of something that wasn't in the original, I mean.
Also, I think characters in this game in general are better written and directed than characters in something like the 13 series. The game has issues but there's some refreshing shit in it too.
Wedge was essentially a walking "haha fat guy likes food" joke.
I wish that was just "an anime trope". It's more like a "worldwide trope". Not so much in America no for obvious reasons.
At least other than that he's nice, you spend more time with the characters and they have more personality than in the original, especially Jesse. The padding that at least adds conversations and relationships between characters I can endure. It's the padding that adds nothing that hurts the game.
They should've gone the Resident Evil route and made a reimagining instead of a fricking pseudo-sequel.
I'll just leave this here.
People grunt all the time IRL spergburger get a job
in anime world, sure isekaigay
I'll groan to my normal functional members of society about your lazy canon fodder ass
a gasp is not a grunt korone chan
HOW did you get that profile picture
I don't believe anyone who states that this piece of shit """remake""" is any shape or form as good as the original game. it's just not true. you may be a zoomer with absolute dogshit taste, who never in his miserable queer life experienced good gaming, but even you have to come to the conclusion, that this pile of literal shit mixed with nomuras cum is a disgrace to FF7. Some people just give in. They know we can't have good things anymore, but they continue to CONSOOM products and delude themselves that they aren't that bad after all. It's all about delusion and listening to zoomer twitch stream trans (and oldgays like max, the biggest sell-out in history) and youtubers who all get paid to tell you how awesome games are today. Go read an old book, watch old movies and play old games. THEN you'll know what I'm talking about. Stop consooming and dialating and start thinking for yourself.
it's way better than the original can ever hope to be, the game is fricking 99 gigabytes
remember the advertisement about how many N64 carts it would take to store the original FF7? $1200 worth of those back then. how many fricking CDs would it take to store FF7R now?
>it's better because today's graphics use lots of GB
just end yourself, your opinion is literally worthless
considering it's THE PLATFORM THE ORIGINAL SOLD ON being frick huge for the capacity size, take your own advice
autistic homosexual, go dilate
touch grass
I understand the words but the sentences here don't make any fricking sense. Either a bot or an actual moron.
you lack comprehension and should develop more intelligence, referencing basic history and you're lost
Just like Ganker scammed morons into buying FFXV, they scammed your dumbass too.
i loved every second of it bros
pure kino
Same. Feel genuine pity for people who are unable to see and enjoy what an absolute classic this is.
I agree, fellow Gankerer! Already preordered the next game.
Getting close to the end, really enjoying it so far.
However it's impossible to get over the fact that it's an incomplete game, even if it's not actually much shorter than the original. It feels like the adventure really started after leaving Midgar.
Jews made sure zoomers never developed good taste. They don't need to pretend to like this shit because they wouldn't know a good game unless it got a 90+ review
I desperately want to like the combat in the game, but I just hate it. The most fun I've had in the entire game is fighting Ramuh as Yuffie solo. I feel like her tools interact well with his and getting a no damage run was enjoyable. I hate that this game only has one shortcut menu as well. It needs at least two with as much shit as you can put on your character.
I love fighting Bahamut with Yuffie. Using brumal form to dodge his attacks feels really slick. Also fighting Weiss really pulls things together. You have to be really on top of the combat. I remember thinking it was a bit of a cluster frick at first but the better you get the better it feels
Is there any way to negate the Umbral Aura? He just rolls up on you and it deals chip damage.
Regen
I was hoping for a different answer, but thanks.
Been a while since I did it, can't fully rmember but i think you just have to tank it like the guy said.
Actually no, I think with Yuffie, you just need to stay out of it and used ranged.
>Weapons and armor are cosmetic.
What a sick joke. Every weapon is shit and you'll probably use an early-game weapon until the end. Can the game even be called a JRPG when it treats weapons like MOBA skill-trees instead of upgrades? What were they thinking? Don't SE even understand what people like about JRPGs?
I think the joke is that we pretend we hate it or that it is a bad game. It was great.
It's on Steam now, you don't have to pretend to hate it for thread clicks.
Don't answer "ummm I really DO hate it tho!" to this post because I'm not interested and I already half-assume you're one of those PS1 purists with how Remake threads usually go. And PS1 purists are cultists.
You know the guy that made that animation shits on Remake, right?
Sure, but that's irrelevant. I enjoyed his frustrated squeals while he was playing Remake because he had nothing to actually deride it on from a gameplay standpoint, it was very obvious that all of his sticking points were about it not actually being a remake.
>haha, that guy behind the Animation hates FF7R.. got you now.
Holy shit, you guys are drawing on straws right now
The funniest part is Oney, too, is one of those that whines about FF7R because of the plot ghosts. Oney is also an absolutely colossal normie and a nostalgia goblin, so there's that.
Thats it, i hate the remake now. Oneyplays sure is a qualified individual and not a deranged autist.
You know who else does? Youngdefiant, yeah that homie is a functional human being too.
ummm I really DO hate it tho!
fegget
It's pretty much a masterpiece
>absolutely fantastic cg intro, possibly the best in gaming in general that sets the stage somehow better than how FF7 did it
>gameplay is just absolutely perfect, high energy action, slow downs for the tactical choices, with tons of build depth, and tons of different bosses
>the sense of scale is absolutely stunning, again possibly the best in gaming ever, Midgar actually feels like a gigantic diselpunk hellscape, the slums are dirty and rotten, the city is colossal and grungy
>the character models are absolutely fantastic, they look nearly cgi in some moments, it's so incredibly good
>the greatest soundtrack ever, no music is ever recycled, all tracks fricking rock
>the character moments are beyond perfect
Really, I cannot for the life of me understand the criticism
>5 part critique of game
>only 1 part dedicated to gameplay
I gotta wonder, have you played the og?
about 25 years ago, bits sporadically since then on emulators
Oh ok that makes sense
Because I'm looking at different aspects
The gameplay is really good
The boss fights are dynamic and interesting
Characters having multiple combat modes adds a lot of depth to the combat
The slowdown mechanic is perfect for effectively controlling your entire party at all times
Which allows you to use all abilities constantly
And the atb speed is fast enough to use them frequently enough that you're not just spamming normal attacks
Also positioning is important which adds even more depth to the real time/turn based hybrid system
Is this enough?
I just want the final game to be called Revengeance for the memes
They might as well go all the way and fully embrace the MGR, and DMC fun
Well said fellow marketer!
I guess it kind of is
I pirated the game but I'm praising the game online for free
Your blatant samegayging is just pathetic.
So since the game's a rebuild will the final scene be live-action of Gackt reciting poetry?
It is a joke yes - we are all laughing at you. morons are funny.
Ganker hates it
also it's great
>Ganker doesnt like something popular
woah, this shocks me
You may cry all you want, but you gotta acknowledge that they had huge balls when they unleashed their inner creative demon by rewriting the storyline for FF7R, something very few companies are still able to do in this day and age.
Just because of that, you gotta be thankful to Creative Business Unit III™.
Thank you Creative Business Unit III™.
Thank you Creative Business Unit III™ for this very unique Final Fantasy XII™ experience.
Thank you Creative Business Unit III™ for not compromising and deciding to express your creative vision with three (3, 三, trois, Drei, tres) episodes, instead of just a single measly $70 game.
Thank you Creative Business Unit III™ for continually helping us redefine the fine line between good and shit content.
barry malding
>remake, aka most of the work was already done
>not even the full game
>80 dollarinos
Why?
One boss fight in remake has more involvement than the entirety of the og.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NOT THE SAME EXACT GAME AS 20 YEARS AGO!?!?!?? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PROVE TO MY WIFE'S SON THAT FINAL FANTASY IS COOL NOW??? HE WON'T PLAY THE OLD GAME BECAUSE HE SAYS OLD GAMES ARE GAY!!!! NOW HE'S GOING TO THINK THIS IS GAY TOO!!!!!