>better gameplay >better graphics >better challenge >better spooks
Dunno man... if the lack of endings is the biggest flaw, then it's pretty god none the less.
>better gameplay
Holy shit no. >Normal mode is absolutely babby easy, bosses die in less than 10 hits >Hard mode makes enemies just as spongy as in Sh2 except there's now way more of them >melee is completely worthless as a result because it's still slow as shit and meant for 1v1 combat >game insists on wasting the player's time by having a billion locked doors everywhere >puzzles on hard are fricking absurd (Shakespeare puzzle in the book shop)
It's literally the same gameplay but worse.
Heather controls way more smoothly than James. The gameplay's also 60fps out of the box.
Puzzles are actually good through all difficulties, and enemies are not a literal joke that don't even care about you like in 2.
>Heather controls way more smoothly than James. The gameplay's also 60fps out of the box.
Heather controls identical to James. Literally the exact same if you enable analog controls. Melee and aiming is still clunky as shit. >Puzzles are actually good through all difficulties
Frick no. Hard is an absolute meme. SH2 had some bullshit puzzles as well but nowhere near the level of 3's. SH1 is the only one with consistently good puzzles. >and enemies are not a literal joke that don't even care about you like in 2.
Instead of inoffensively bad, it's now a more infuriating kind of bad. I'm not saying that SH2 has good combat, I'm saying that SH3 has EVEN WORSE combat, which is genuinely a feat.
>hard mode is actually hard and not just a pat in the shoulder to make you feel good
If you are an average player, you choose normal, hard is not meant for everyone.
>But it's so fricking boring
I sure hope you're not referring to SH1 with that statement, because hot damn is the OG game damn well paced, more interesting and more terrifying.
Best on PSCSX2??
Interested in Vanilla, not modded.
Play the PC port with Steam006's PC fix.
See the PC guide + PasteBin:
>But it's so fricking boring
I sure hope you're not referring to SH1 with that statement, because hot damn is the OG game damn well paced, more interesting and more terrifying.
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Play the PC port with Steam006's PC fix.
See the PC guide + PasteBin:
>enter Brookhaven, inmediately go to 3rd floor, imput 7335 on the keypad, leave Maria on that room
They missed the mark with that escort section. You can instantly get rid of her on a repeated playthtough.
I remember SH2 and SH3 being more popular and barely anyone playing SH1
that was just my circle of friends/cousins so maybe it was different with other people
No. Silent Hill 1 sold well every subsequent game sold less and less. It's why they scrambled to make 3 more action focused and then completely ditched the old formula with 4. The western games averaged like 500k, IIRC.
I wish in SH1 & 2 you didn't spend most of the game just going into big buildings to find ways to open doors in there and get out. I liked what I played of 3, but I dropped it when it stuck me in that hospital from 2 again.
Are you me? I always knew SH2 was the acclaimed one and SH3 was also some people's favorite so I played SH1 not expecting to be my favorite but as much as I did enjoy SH2 and SH3 SH1 is the one I felt impacted by.
Feels hard to really say what one moment defines SH1 for me but there's one part I always felt was a bit underrated actually. After the boat conversation with Cybil and Dahlia where you run from the pier to the lighthouse. I know SH as a series isn't lauded for its amazing gameplay but this may be the best SH moment of gameplay in the series to me. Your pathways are very narrow and awkward to traverse, and some of the game's most dangerous enemies are across the whole area. It takes only a few minutes really, but it's such a tense section to play through to me, feels like survival horror gameplay at its best.
>Central Square shopping mall, subway, unknown station, sewers, construction site, Hilltop Center, Daisy Villa apartments, Brookhaven hospital, amusement park, chapel
The section between shopping mall and Hilltop is meant as a break for the player. Once you reach that bathtub on Hilltop, it becomes an intense game until the credits.
I think SH1 is the best one, but SH4 is still my favorite. I acknowledge its serious flaws, but they do not matter to me. It's unique in all of the good and all of the bad ways.
SM is so weird to me. I appreciate what it does with the story and how it fricks with you in what you do and respond with. But then it has only one enemy and you can't even fight them, only run.
SH4 has some good ideas, and great music and monsters, but it can’t land the execution. Story feels pretty weak when the main two characters have basically no relation to anything that’s happening. I still found it incredibly spooky when I first played it though.
Silent Hill 4 would be twice as good if it was half as long. The second you start playing through the same areas you've already done, the game becomes a massive chore. Even worse, it turns into a massive escort mission. There's some cool stuff in the second half, like Walter following you around, but overall it's just a huge slog.
I like to think Shattered Memories is an alternate timeline where the bad ending is canon. Most people playing sh1 for the first time would have gotten this ending so it makes sense.
2 suffers from its combination of easy resource management and pushover enemies. 1 has easy resource management too but the enemies are tougher and scarier so it works. 3 has decent resource management and tough scary enemies both which makes it my favorite.
>Heather, Douglas, Claudia, Vincent, Leonard, haunted mansion guide, happy birthday phone voice, church confessor, cassette tape voice
All the voices heard in 3. You also hear recycled lines from Harry/Cheryl/Lisa in 1
SH2 has a neat atmosphere and best music
SH4 has the best cinematic experience, one of the best of all time especially the first 2 hours or so
SH3 is too dark, cant see sh!t
SH1 is based (didnt play)
It’s not. What you’re witnessing is Ganker tribal autism, arguing for arguing sake. The real fanbase is more like: >people who only played 2 >people who played more than just 2
I don't know what happened, in the last year some absolutely irrational seethe against SH2 cropped up and it plagues every thread now
1-3 are all great
Poser for what? >these 3 games that I have played are all good >UHH YOU DIDNT MENTION THIS OTHER GAME? >because I didnt play it >heh... poser...
Are you having a stroke?
8 months ago
Anonymous
you didn't play Ganker Hill 4 because in the community circles of Reddit Hill 2 posers the false narrative of ''only the first 3 games are good'' is prevelant that's why it's rare finding posers like you who did play 4
8 months ago
Anonymous
You didn't answer the question, poser for what?
Poser would imply that I said I did something but didn't actually do it, are you saying I didn't play 1/2/3?
I never claimed to have played 4 so I can't be a poser for that
Try to formulate a coherent sentence please, and maybe hit your shift key every now and again
8 months ago
Anonymous
any person who played SH1-3 and does not recognize Reddit Hill 2 to be the weakest link and far below the other two excellent titles (a conclusion any normal human being will reach) is a poser homosexual deluding himself into believing Reddit Hill 2 is not trash because he does not want to be alienated by the internet community jerking off to Reddit Hill 2 24/7
deep inside you know Reddit Hill 2 is a a pile of shit a pool of diarhaea but you are afraid from admitting it because you want too ''fit in'' with the posers and pseuds on circlejerks like r*ddit (where you belong)
4 plays like trash. No amount of cope on Ganker will change that fact.
gif related
8 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine unironically talking to "LE REDDIT HILL 2" gorilla Black person schizo, are you new or something?
I put both 2 and 4 in roughly the same tier. Maybe a slight edge for 2, but I haven't played 4 since 2005 or so.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>I put both Reddit Hill 2 and Ganker Hill 4 in roughly the same tier
8 months ago
Anonymous
>anything I don't approve of is Reddit
NTA but you're stupid and boring. I was in university when SH2 came out, played it on a 14 inch CRT/VCR combo propped up on some shelves in a shared dorm room in our halls of residence which was a converted maternity hospital. Loved it then; love it now. SH4 i still "don't get". I like the idea but no part of it is done well.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>played it on a 14 inch CRT/VCR combo propped up on some shelves in a shared dorm room in our halls of residence which was a converted maternity hospital. Loved it then; love it now.
pic related is you
8 months ago
Anonymous
What's this even meant to mean anymore, you fat fricking c**t?
SH2 is great, but extremely overrated and is the one most "outsiders" will have played, SH2 only fans have the tendency to shit on the rest of series too, so people react to that.
2 is a clunky piece of shit, it's popular because of muh deep story about guilt and dead wife which has already been done better a million times, the only good thing about the game can be listened for free on youtube, i had more fun playing origin
3 is also bad because level design is an endless corridor filled with locked doors or a copy paste of sh2, if team silent had the budget they would have set it in old silent hill like it should have been and could have become something as good as the first game, i suspect most of the fans just really like heather
It can't normally happen in the game because it's one of the unused animations. There are audio files with Eileen's voice actress's fully recorded screams and other noises for it. SH4 overall has frick ton of unfinished content that people found in the files of both PS2 and PC versions. It's obvious how much more Team Silent wanted to do with the game but Konami gave them pretty tight dev time and budget because they wanted the series to become a yearly franchise
There are reasons. The obvious is contrarianism but legit ones too, people like Heather a lot, they like the aesthetic of the 3 otherworld better. I think on a moment to moment basis it's much scarier than SH2. Some people even like the moronic cult stuff. I can understand why people like the game the best even if I don't.
>contrarianism
kek get a load of this Reddit Hill 2 poser
anyone who actually played the SH games will like 3 more than Reddit Hill 2
there is a reason why the majority of Reddit Hill 2 ''fans'' are either
1: never played the game, they watched a playthough ot watched a 2 hours long retrospective video
2: they did play it, probbaly never finished it and if they did they most likely never knew about ''Born From A Wish'' but they never touched any other game in the series because Reddit Hill 2 was the only one shilled to them by e-celebs
I wasn't fond of how it went back to the cult plotline. I felt two grew out of that and gave silent hill the opportunity to tell stories of indivual suffering. 3 kind of had that in the backround with cheryl's connection to alessa's life but it focused too much on the cult stuff. It's still my 2nd favorite though.
I could be talking out of my ass but I recall the original plan with 3 being a similar story to 2 featuring a female protagonist and an abortion guilt thing, but konami interference had them go back to the cult plotline.
That sounds like it would've been better and made more sense with a lot of the pregnancy and sex shit still in the game. The cult should've stayed in 1.
it was forerold byt LE GYROMANCY >>>>> there was a hole here... now it's LE GONE!!!
Reddit Hill 2 was a mistake and every game that tried to copy it whether they were SH games like Homecucking, Shat-Turd Memes, Poorigins or other horror games like the indie garbage games plaguing Steam are ended up being trash
There's always just that one anon who unironically calls something reddit something and all you can do is never give him anything resembling the word that's between the brackets. This public service announcement is already too much engagement.
I feel like 2 and 4 are linked together but not as overtly as 1 and 3 are
The gameplay is even kinda of the same in 2 and 4 with the escorting of a woman thing
SH3 does tie into SH4 a lot. It mentions two areas that are visited in SH4, that being the Orphanage and the tower prison thingy. The idea that SH2 and 4 not tying into SH3 is stupid. They are connected and happen in the same universe but the whole point was 3 was to wrap up the story of 1.
>that martyr following the Order religion who was killed by christcucks (she had a statue) would be cool if we see more of it if we ever got a SH game taking place in the 19 century exploring the beggining of the Order and how they managed to drive out Christcucks from Silent Hill >the mystery of who the hell is Miriam K (her grave is found alongside Walter, James, Angela and Fatso)
Reddit Hill 2 is still trash but it had neat little stuff like this
I don't remember many other implications in SH2 but Konami and Team Silent had a website for SH4 in 2004 that had a lot of promotional images. One of those images was a promo art of James's ghost in Ashfield. It would've confirmed the "In Water" ending as the canon one. It's possible that James's father being a super at Ashfield's Hights was originally going to play a bigger role in the story. There's also an unused song in the game about a woman singing in "Heaven's Night" club which hints that the last "world" that Henry was supposed to go to at the end of the game was Silent Hill.
I don't remember many other implications in SH2 but Konami and Team Silent had a website for SH4 in 2004 that had a lot of promotional images. One of those images was a promo art of James's ghost in Ashfield. It would've confirmed the "In Water" ending as the canon one. It's possible that James's father being a super at Ashfield's Hights was originally going to play a bigger role in the story. There's also an unused song in the game about a woman singing in "Heaven's Night" club which hints that the last "world" that Henry was supposed to go to at the end of the game was Silent Hill.
The book of SH Book of Lost Memories heavily implies the ending where he drives into the lake to suicide is the canon one, that's why we never hear of James ever again and his father deems him as missing in 4
Wrong. The book of lost memories directly confirms that the UFO endings are canon. Which explains why James was deemed missing. He's living with Harry and Heather.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>ufo endings are canon
Lmao, forgot that fricking page
8 months ago
Anonymous
it's clearly a joke you autist
8 months ago
Anonymous
The joke ----/ (your head) --->
8 months ago
Anonymous
>it's clearly a joke you autist
That book is 100% serious. There are no jokes on it.
The book of SH Book of Lost Memories heavily implies the ending where he drives into the lake to suicide is the canon one, that's why we never hear of James ever again and his father deems him as missing in 4
Wrong. The book of lost memories directly confirms that the ufo endings are canon. Which explains why James was deemed missing. He's living with Harry and Heather.
I feel like Water is the one that just fits the best with the atmosphere and theme of the game, neither the pizza boy or Angela find redemption, this is a not meant to be a therapy session with a happy recovery in the end and while we empathize with James after being him for so long, he murdered someone for very selfish reasons and that is one way for him to atone for it. The other endings are just what ifs, wishful thinking, although with Leave at least you can have some justification in the sense that he finds something new to live for and it was Mary's wish.
>I feel like Water is the one that just fits the best with the atmosphere and theme of the game, neither the pizza boy or Angela find redemption, this is a not meant to be a therapy session with a happy recovery in the end and while we empathize with James after being him for so long, he murdered someone for very selfish reasons and that is one way for him to atone for it.
Every ending except for the Maria ending fits. He just happens to be a more sane person than the other people who can take Silent Hill's shit without going mad (this includes in water, where he kills himself without it being because of the town like it happenned to angela)
I still own a PS2 to this day and have a copy of SH2. I don't like that game. Finished it on hard and remember almost all of it, yet i still don't like it.
I'm a newer fan of the series, only getting into the series last year, and I genuinely don't get why people meme the post SH4 entries as being worthwhile. With zero nostalgia for the older entries I tried the post Team Silent entries with an open mind but they really are just not good games. I feel like nowadays I see people talk them up as underrated and it makes no sense to me, at best they're mediocre.
I like some things about Silent Hill Origins, despite its flaws. Like, for example, I think it mostly nails its original monster designs and the atmosphere.
Silent Hill Homecoming is kind of in the same vein, but only for its boss monster designs. And those aren't enough to make up for all its flaws.
Shattered Memories is just kind of, well, bad, but I do appreciate what they were trying to do with it.
Silent Hill Downpour just takes the cake for not being redeemable in anyway for me. I guess I kind of liked the Wheelchair dude? That's kind of it though.
I'd argue the side quests in Downpour were quite cool and had the franchise not died right after, I can see side quests becoming a recurrent thing in future SH games.
I had to look up the jelly bean key because there's a box right below it that makes Harry go >nah nothing here
despite looking DIRECTLY at the bag of jelly beans on the shelf. Oh and the appendages puzzle
>appendages puzzle
I fricking hate that puzzle. I drew up a chart with the Zodiacs, tried to connect them and nothing made sense. I looked up the solution. Hurr durr count the legs. I've never felt more like a brainlet from such a stupidly simple puzzle.
>Heather. Did you... >You don't have to call me that. I'm not hiding anymore >You want me to use your real name? What was it again? >Cheryl. The name my father gave me
Good ending
I'll say it, 3 was my least favorite. Probably because I played it right after 2 and quickly got tired of checking locked doors, but it kinda sucks.
They added a melee parry thing, so I'm just constantly doing that to save ammo. The levels are all the worst ones, like a sewer area, construction site, office building, etc.
Also they killed my favorite character what the frick!
1>2>4>=3
I honestly can't pick between 3 and 4, 4 was pretty bad, but also partly because I played like a 'tard.
I just think that 3 is the most basic of all the games. It's so simple and straightforward. It's like SH1 but with level design that's slightly more annoying. That's why I like it the least of the four.
That seems like a fair assessment. I'm a sucker for those PS1 graphics too, so my rankings are slightly biased.
Really though I don't know how anyone can like some of the first 4 games and completely hate the others. I get not liking post-Team Silent games, but they're all fairly similar. I guess 2's the easiest, but are you really playing these for the challenge? Who knows.
>It started raining... Are you sleeping? >I'm awake >You cold?.... What's the deal with Silent Hill anyway? It used to be a nice, quiet little town, but now... >You've been there? >Once. On a missing person case. I never did find him. I'll tell ya, that's one screwed up town. In my line of work, you hear a lot of nasty rumors
Was Douglas talking about James there?
>Welcome to the Borley Haunted Mansion. We're so glad you came. Please come inside and look around. When you feel you are ready, then go through the door
>"Help... Help..." Do you hear those voices? A family of four was sliced into bloody pieces in this room. Ah, the cries of the children... The murderer was caught. Do you know why he said he killed his family? "Because I felt I had to!" Anyway, I'm lying. It's all just a joke. I wanted to scare you, that's all. The truth is that only one person died, by
suicide
>That's Danny. A quiet young man, but quite friendly, as you can
see. He was so eager to meet you. His hometown is New Orleans. But he came here after first losing his way. Oh, maybe you might know? Where is the path to heaven?
>This mansion is quite old. So please watch your step. Sometimes the floor suddenly gives away. And beneath the floor, there's nothing
>I'm so sorry. This place is just falling apart. The mechanism is broken, you see. It wasn't supposed to stop there, I assure you
>There's the exit. I hope you enjoyed your tour. Please come back anytime. Or if you'd prefer, we could come and visit you instead
>That was supposed to be the exit. But it seems that no one wants you to leave. Everyone really likes you. They want you to stay with them forever. I have to agree with them. Don't be afraid. Dying is much easier than living
SH 1 to 3 are almost interchangeable to me, they have different strengths and qualities, but the overall product in all 3 is really good, 4 comes after them due to some critical design issues, but at the same time, it has some elements that gives it a sweet spot in my mind like the Water prison world and the room mechanics.
The other games in the series are not really worth playing unless you really don't have something else to do, they are just forgettable and inconsequential.
Even 4 is better than 3. 2 wins by virtue of being one of the most solid instances of a team of people being able to execute their vision almost perfectly. 1 is pretty close behind 2 though. 3 was just a shitty sequel with quirky teenage girl protag. 4 had shitty retreading of older levels and the escort shit, but narrative wise it was more interesting than 3.
>almost perfectly
2 is far from perfect. They just didn't give much thought to the enemy variety/attacks, the Maria escort bit, and how much ammo/health should be avaliable.
>good game... BAD!!!!! you didnt see that coming huh????
This board is just embarrassing. And the worst thing is this is not some "newbie tourist" thing. It has always been like this. As a Gankerermin shitstain just playing a video game and talking about it is just haram.
>lying figure, mannequin, nurse (only carries a pipe), creeper, mandarin (extremely rare and almost harmless), smaller abstract daddy (only 4 at the hotel)
>numb body (small and big variants), closer, double head, pendulum, insane cancer, slurper, nurse (some carry pipes and others carry guns), scraper
non bosses enemies in 2 and 3. More variety in 3.
>Wood Side/Blue Creek apartments : lying figures, mannequins, creepers (there are almost zero mannequins on Wood Side)
>Brookhaven hospital : nurses, mannequins
>Historical Society/Toluca Prison : lying figures
>Labyrinth : lying figures, mandarins (the area with the mandarins is optional)
>Lakeview hotel : lying figures, mannequins, abstract daddys, mandarins (only in 1 section)
>Baldwin mansion : lying figures, mannequins, creepers
I don't like SH2. So little enemy variety on the dungeons. Plus, the town exploration sections don't have any exclusive enemies like the town exploration sections in SH1.
Most people who like 2 have never played the game. 3 is much better in every way unless you didn't play 1.
3 is infinitely worse to play than 2 and I don't know how Team Silent managed to frick it up that bad.
>better gameplay
>better graphics
>better challenge
>better spooks
Dunno man... if the lack of endings is the biggest flaw, then it's pretty god none the less.
>better gameplay
Holy shit no.
>Normal mode is absolutely babby easy, bosses die in less than 10 hits
>Hard mode makes enemies just as spongy as in Sh2 except there's now way more of them
>melee is completely worthless as a result because it's still slow as shit and meant for 1v1 combat
>game insists on wasting the player's time by having a billion locked doors everywhere
>puzzles on hard are fricking absurd (Shakespeare puzzle in the book shop)
It's literally the same gameplay but worse.
Heather controls way more smoothly than James. The gameplay's also 60fps out of the box.
Puzzles are actually good through all difficulties, and enemies are not a literal joke that don't even care about you like in 2.
>Heather controls way more smoothly than James. The gameplay's also 60fps out of the box.
Heather controls identical to James. Literally the exact same if you enable analog controls. Melee and aiming is still clunky as shit.
>Puzzles are actually good through all difficulties
Frick no. Hard is an absolute meme. SH2 had some bullshit puzzles as well but nowhere near the level of 3's. SH1 is the only one with consistently good puzzles.
>and enemies are not a literal joke that don't even care about you like in 2.
Instead of inoffensively bad, it's now a more infuriating kind of bad. I'm not saying that SH2 has good combat, I'm saying that SH3 has EVEN WORSE combat, which is genuinely a feat.
If you’re gonna whine about hard mode being hard then 2 is still the worst at that. Shit post.
The hard mode puzzles are kino though. Sorry you don't know your Shakespeare anon.
Speaking of which, I wish more games had that option of puzzle difficulty modes.
>Shakespeare puzzle
Imagine making a puzzle only privileged WASPs can solve.
>hard mode is actually hard and not just a pat in the shoulder to make you feel good
If you are an average player, you choose normal, hard is not meant for everyone.
gameplay
I give you that. Using block at times maybe useful especially on harder difficulties. Game is worse than other three otherwise
>Using block at times maybe useful especially on harder difficulties.
??? How is block not useful in SH2?
The bosses in 3 pose a slightly greater threat. You need the block for Alessa and God.
3 plays and looks so much better than 2.
>Female protag
>Looks better
Yeah well no shit only homosexuals would have a hard time deciding that.
Doesn't matter when the true king of the trilogy stands untouched
But it's so fricking boring
It did Harry too dirty
>But it's so fricking boring
I sure hope you're not referring to SH1 with that statement, because hot damn is the OG game damn well paced, more interesting and more terrifying.
Play the PC port with Steam006's PC fix.
See the PC guide + PasteBin:
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Nice. TY.
I love you and the people who preserve games like those. Bless you.
The enemy design is a joke compared to 3. Only boomers that enjoy braindead gameplay think its better than 3.
based Harry
>PC Port
soulless cashgrab
PC ports are literally the same games, released alongside with the Xbox port.
>enter Brookhaven, inmediately go to 3rd floor, imput 7335 on the keypad, leave Maria on that room
They missed the mark with that escort section. You can instantly get rid of her on a repeated playthtough.
>1920x1080
>NO NOISE EFFECT
>HIGH RES TEXTURES/SOULLES TEXTURES
You didn't "play" the game
SH2 EE has noise tardo. How in the frick is the textures being higher res a problem?
One concern with the SH2 EE is that they also try to 'improve' the game as well.
what part is this? I don't remember Pyramid Head walking around in the halls.
He doesn't. Not in the final game at least.
Question. It is true back in the mid 2000 SH 1 and SH3 were popular choices while SH2 was the less popular option?
not really, if anything 3 was more divisive
I remember SH2 and SH3 being more popular and barely anyone playing SH1
that was just my circle of friends/cousins so maybe it was different with other people
No. Silent Hill 1 sold well every subsequent game sold less and less. It's why they scrambled to make 3 more action focused and then completely ditched the old formula with 4. The western games averaged like 500k, IIRC.
I wish in SH1 & 2 you didn't spend most of the game just going into big buildings to find ways to open doors in there and get out. I liked what I played of 3, but I dropped it when it stuck me in that hospital from 2 again.
>that hospital
man frick that sound
Whooops. I posted the wrong pic
>12 hour escort mission
im gonna say it got way too much hate, but you are delusional if you think this is even top three. even origin was better.
First 2 hours of 1 are the best in the series.
If the hospital wasn't so boring it would be the best game.
going in I expected 2 or 3 to be my fave but this king delivered way beyond my expectations
Favorite part?
the one where the bigmoth tickles your balls with its snout
Are you me? I always knew SH2 was the acclaimed one and SH3 was also some people's favorite so I played SH1 not expecting to be my favorite but as much as I did enjoy SH2 and SH3 SH1 is the one I felt impacted by.
Favorite part?
Feels hard to really say what one moment defines SH1 for me but there's one part I always felt was a bit underrated actually. After the boat conversation with Cybil and Dahlia where you run from the pier to the lighthouse. I know SH as a series isn't lauded for its amazing gameplay but this may be the best SH moment of gameplay in the series to me. Your pathways are very narrow and awkward to traverse, and some of the game's most dangerous enemies are across the whole area. It takes only a few minutes really, but it's such a tense section to play through to me, feels like survival horror gameplay at its best.
Best on PSCSX2??
Interested in Vanilla, not modded.
Remember how the outdoor areas in SH1 have exclusive enemies which don't appear in the indoor areas? SH2 designers clearly didn't.
ahem
forbidden siren is on equal footing with sh 1 and 3
The gameplay and performance is total shit. Such a shame.
>Central Square shopping mall, subway, unknown station, sewers, construction site, Hilltop Center, Daisy Villa apartments, Brookhaven hospital, amusement park, chapel
The section between shopping mall and Hilltop is meant as a break for the player. Once you reach that bathtub on Hilltop, it becomes an intense game until the credits.
>mogs your garbage series
>troony game
>tries to copy silent hill and resident evil
lmao
you only say that because you want to frick heather
Real chads play 4
4 sucks. I'd rank it with Shattered Memories for good ideas, terrible execution.
Who doesn't love burping stair nurses?
>sh4 has such great atmosphere!
The atmosphere:
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>walking/running simulator with no combat
>good ideas
the absolute state of Reddit Hill 2 posers
Shat-Turd Memes was and will always be trash
I think SH1 is the best one, but SH4 is still my favorite. I acknowledge its serious flaws, but they do not matter to me. It's unique in all of the good and all of the bad ways.
>sniffing Eileen Galvin's sweaty, hairy armpits
>sniffing Eileen Galvin's sweaty, hairy armpits
>sniffing Eileen Galvin's sweaty, hairy armpits
>sniffing Eileen Galvin's sweaty, hairy armpits
>sniffing Eileen Galvin's sweaty, hairy armpits
>sniffing Eileen Galvin's sweaty, hairy armpits
Why did they have the ability for you to see her shave her armpits?
Why is she doing that on her bed and not in the bathroom?
Eileen is cute. CUTE. Even cuter when she's injured
the truth
>”I love my daddy!”
Shattered Memories has to be at least A tier.
too complicated gameplay for the average
The real truth
Accurate
Origins is better than HC
origins is b tier and homecoming is at most c tier
based Shattered Memories appreciator
SM is so weird to me. I appreciate what it does with the story and how it fricks with you in what you do and respond with. But then it has only one enemy and you can't even fight them, only run.
kinda fits and is horrifying. shooting enemies doesnt fit the series.
>S
SH2 & SH3
>A
SH1
>B
The Room
>C
Origins, Shattered Memories
>D
Downpour
>Z
HC
>homecoming is worse than downpour in every way
It has lyrical music, unlike 1 and 2. That gives it more personality.
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I have more fun playing Resident Evil but Silent Hill gets under my skin and stays with me longer. Spooky ass fricking games.
>Shame it's so short
Nah its fine. It doesn't overstay its welcome
>SH2 : directed at first by Akihiro Imamura. He later became the producer and Masashi Tsuboyama took over as director
>SH3 : directed by Kazuhide Nakazawa (neither Imamura or Tsuboyama worked on it, instead choosing to work on SH4)
I'm playing sh4 and it will not end. Everything is just memos and diary entry. let me out
Don't be fooled by morons on Ganker, sh4 is a shit game.
filtered
>filtered
That's the cope everyone uses to defend bad games. It just sucks.
SH4 has some good ideas, and great music and monsters, but it can’t land the execution. Story feels pretty weak when the main two characters have basically no relation to anything that’s happening. I still found it incredibly spooky when I first played it though.
You don't need to go on. It's just a dream. It's not your dream, but it's still a dream. You can wake up.
Silent Hill 4 would be twice as good if it was half as long. The second you start playing through the same areas you've already done, the game becomes a massive chore. Even worse, it turns into a massive escort mission. There's some cool stuff in the second half, like Walter following you around, but overall it's just a huge slog.
Some 2003 reviewers did find it better than 2.
rip
I like to think Shattered Memories is an alternate timeline where the bad ending is canon. Most people playing sh1 for the first time would have gotten this ending so it makes sense.
I love my daddy 🙂
>I like to think Shattered Memories is an alternate timeline where the bad ending is canon
Harry didn't wear glasses on the bad ending.
I agree. It’s also a great companion game to SH1.
2 suffers from its combination of easy resource management and pushover enemies. 1 has easy resource management too but the enemies are tougher and scarier so it works. 3 has decent resource management and tough scary enemies both which makes it my favorite.
>Heather, Douglas, Claudia, Vincent, Leonard, haunted mansion guide, happy birthday phone voice, church confessor, cassette tape voice
All the voices heard in 3. You also hear recycled lines from Harry/Cheryl/Lisa in 1
SH2 has a neat atmosphere and best music
SH4 has the best cinematic experience, one of the best of all time especially the first 2 hours or so
SH3 is too dark, cant see sh!t
SH1 is based (didnt play)
>Reddit Hill 2
>best music
KEK
that's not saying much because even 1 and 4 are better than the absolute shitshow that us Reddit Hill 2
Why does the SH community seem divided into people who like 1 &3 but hate 2 &4 and visa versa?
It’s not. What you’re witnessing is Ganker tribal autism, arguing for arguing sake. The real fanbase is more like:
>people who only played 2
>people who played more than just 2
You forgot:
>people who pretended to play 2
I don't know what happened, in the last year some absolutely irrational seethe against SH2 cropped up and it plagues every thread now
1-3 are all great
>1-3 are all great
>leaves 4 out
kek Reddit Hill 2 posers are so predictable
anyone who hates 4 is 100% a Reddit Hill 2 gay
I don't hate 4, I never played it
anyone who disagrees with my ranking is a poser
>never played it
yes i know poser
Poser for what?
>these 3 games that I have played are all good
>UHH YOU DIDNT MENTION THIS OTHER GAME?
>because I didnt play it
>heh... poser...
Are you having a stroke?
you didn't play Ganker Hill 4 because in the community circles of Reddit Hill 2 posers the false narrative of ''only the first 3 games are good'' is prevelant that's why it's rare finding posers like you who did play 4
You didn't answer the question, poser for what?
Poser would imply that I said I did something but didn't actually do it, are you saying I didn't play 1/2/3?
I never claimed to have played 4 so I can't be a poser for that
Try to formulate a coherent sentence please, and maybe hit your shift key every now and again
any person who played SH1-3 and does not recognize Reddit Hill 2 to be the weakest link and far below the other two excellent titles (a conclusion any normal human being will reach) is a poser homosexual deluding himself into believing Reddit Hill 2 is not trash because he does not want to be alienated by the internet community jerking off to Reddit Hill 2 24/7
deep inside you know Reddit Hill 2 is a a pile of shit a pool of diarhaea but you are afraid from admitting it because you want too ''fit in'' with the posers and pseuds on circlejerks like r*ddit (where you belong)
gif related
Imagine unironically talking to "LE REDDIT HILL 2" gorilla Black person schizo, are you new or something?
downpour is underrated
4 is dogshit
survival horror is not for you, go back to your Muh depression walking simulator x movie games
4 plays like trash. No amount of cope on Ganker will change that fact.
4 is by far the weakest of the PS1/PS2 SH games. Even back then it was the lowest rated.
>it was the lowest rated.
and Reddit Hill 2 was and still the highest rated game yet me and you both know it's garbage
I put both 2 and 4 in roughly the same tier. Maybe a slight edge for 2, but I haven't played 4 since 2005 or so.
>I put both Reddit Hill 2 and Ganker Hill 4 in roughly the same tier
>anything I don't approve of is Reddit
NTA but you're stupid and boring. I was in university when SH2 came out, played it on a 14 inch CRT/VCR combo propped up on some shelves in a shared dorm room in our halls of residence which was a converted maternity hospital. Loved it then; love it now. SH4 i still "don't get". I like the idea but no part of it is done well.
>played it on a 14 inch CRT/VCR combo propped up on some shelves in a shared dorm room in our halls of residence which was a converted maternity hospital. Loved it then; love it now.
pic related is you
What's this even meant to mean anymore, you fat fricking c**t?
SH2 is great, but extremely overrated and is the one most "outsiders" will have played, SH2 only fans have the tendency to shit on the rest of series too, so people react to that.
behold, the truth
>games after 4
>not all F tier
Eileen watching movies on TV
Eileen shaving her armpits
2 is a clunky piece of shit, it's popular because of muh deep story about guilt and dead wife which has already been done better a million times, the only good thing about the game can be listened for free on youtube, i had more fun playing origin
3 is also bad because level design is an endless corridor filled with locked doors or a copy paste of sh2, if team silent had the budget they would have set it in old silent hill like it should have been and could have become something as good as the first game, i suspect most of the fans just really like heather
Eileen getting possessed
I never knew this could happen
It can't normally happen in the game because it's one of the unused animations. There are audio files with Eileen's voice actress's fully recorded screams and other noises for it. SH4 overall has frick ton of unfinished content that people found in the files of both PS2 and PC versions. It's obvious how much more Team Silent wanted to do with the game but Konami gave them pretty tight dev time and budget because they wanted the series to become a yearly franchise
Is this one of the haunts that never made it into the PC port and can only be seen on console?
I know this is meant to be all spooky and shit but PS2 graphics make this look kinda of funny lmao
It's too fidgety. She should be like Walter in the intro cutscene where he stands still staring at the camera/you.
Isnt that Walter prerendered?
In engine it'd look pretty dumb too
it absolutely is not and i have no idea how people actually think this
There are reasons. The obvious is contrarianism but legit ones too, people like Heather a lot, they like the aesthetic of the 3 otherworld better. I think on a moment to moment basis it's much scarier than SH2. Some people even like the moronic cult stuff. I can understand why people like the game the best even if I don't.
>contrarianism
kek get a load of this Reddit Hill 2 poser
anyone who actually played the SH games will like 3 more than Reddit Hill 2
there is a reason why the majority of Reddit Hill 2 ''fans'' are either
1: never played the game, they watched a playthough ot watched a 2 hours long retrospective video
2: they did play it, probbaly never finished it and if they did they most likely never knew about ''Born From A Wish'' but they never touched any other game in the series because Reddit Hill 2 was the only one shilled to them by e-celebs
>the mentally ill schizo itt trying to convince people 4 is good and 2 is bad
I wasn't fond of how it went back to the cult plotline. I felt two grew out of that and gave silent hill the opportunity to tell stories of indivual suffering. 3 kind of had that in the backround with cheryl's connection to alessa's life but it focused too much on the cult stuff. It's still my 2nd favorite though.
The cult is real silent hill. The cult is even relevant in 4.
2 is barely a silent hill game.
I could be talking out of my ass but I recall the original plan with 3 being a similar story to 2 featuring a female protagonist and an abortion guilt thing, but konami interference had them go back to the cult plotline.
It's strange seeing Konami make a smart decision.
Imagine sh3 with sh2 reddit story. It would make the sh2 wank we see today look minuscule.
>le abortion guilt
>women are victims
>men are le bad
That sounds like it would've been better and made more sense with a lot of the pregnancy and sex shit still in the game. The cult should've stayed in 1.
it was forerold byt LE GYROMANCY >>>>> there was a hole here... now it's LE GONE!!!
Reddit Hill 2 was a mistake and every game that tried to copy it whether they were SH games like Homecucking, Shat-Turd Memes, Poorigins or other horror games like the indie garbage games plaguing Steam are ended up being trash
There's always just that one anon who unironically calls something reddit something and all you can do is never give him anything resembling the word that's between the brackets. This public service announcement is already too much engagement.
2 set up a bunch of kind of random plot hooks that I'm trying to remember
the most obvious one is Walter Sullivan, which got picked up in 4
I remember another one was that steamboat that disappeared on the lake, which got picked up in the Arcade game
does anyone remember any other ones?
Walter Sullivan is also referenced in 3. The idea that 4 was never supposed to be SH game is stupid when they've been building up the game since 2.
Oh yeah, also just remembered that Swap Monument stuff that I don't think has been used yet
Remains of Blood Swamp
The x meters of land surrounding
this monument was originally
swamp, but was later filled in.
From long ago, the swamp was
nicknamed Blood Swamp because
the executioners poured the water
used to wash the execution tools
in here.
Perhaps it's for that reason that
many people seem to have seen
ghosts in the area.
I feel like 2 and 4 are linked together but not as overtly as 1 and 3 are
The gameplay is even kinda of the same in 2 and 4 with the escorting of a woman thing
SH3 does tie into SH4 a lot. It mentions two areas that are visited in SH4, that being the Orphanage and the tower prison thingy. The idea that SH2 and 4 not tying into SH3 is stupid. They are connected and happen in the same universe but the whole point was 3 was to wrap up the story of 1.
>that martyr following the Order religion who was killed by christcucks (she had a statue) would be cool if we see more of it if we ever got a SH game taking place in the 19 century exploring the beggining of the Order and how they managed to drive out Christcucks from Silent Hill
>the mystery of who the hell is Miriam K (her grave is found alongside Walter, James, Angela and Fatso)
Reddit Hill 2 is still trash but it had neat little stuff like this
I don't remember many other implications in SH2 but Konami and Team Silent had a website for SH4 in 2004 that had a lot of promotional images. One of those images was a promo art of James's ghost in Ashfield. It would've confirmed the "In Water" ending as the canon one. It's possible that James's father being a super at Ashfield's Hights was originally going to play a bigger role in the story. There's also an unused song in the game about a woman singing in "Heaven's Night" club which hints that the last "world" that Henry was supposed to go to at the end of the game was Silent Hill.
That wouldn't have made any sense. Walter didn't kill James.
It would make sense if he did after the leave ending dummy
But you said it would've confirmed the "In Water" ending.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
homosexual = (You)
The book of SH Book of Lost Memories heavily implies the ending where he drives into the lake to suicide is the canon one, that's why we never hear of James ever again and his father deems him as missing in 4
Wrong. The book of lost memories directly confirms that the UFO endings are canon. Which explains why James was deemed missing. He's living with Harry and Heather.
>ufo endings are canon
Lmao, forgot that fricking page
it's clearly a joke you autist
The joke ----/ (your head) --->
>it's clearly a joke you autist
That book is 100% serious. There are no jokes on it.
I feel like Water is the one that just fits the best with the atmosphere and theme of the game, neither the pizza boy or Angela find redemption, this is a not meant to be a therapy session with a happy recovery in the end and while we empathize with James after being him for so long, he murdered someone for very selfish reasons and that is one way for him to atone for it.
The other endings are just what ifs, wishful thinking, although with Leave at least you can have some justification in the sense that he finds something new to live for and it was Mary's wish.
>I feel like Water is the one that just fits the best with the atmosphere and theme of the game, neither the pizza boy or Angela find redemption, this is a not meant to be a therapy session with a happy recovery in the end and while we empathize with James after being him for so long, he murdered someone for very selfish reasons and that is one way for him to atone for it.
Every ending except for the Maria ending fits. He just happens to be a more sane person than the other people who can take Silent Hill's shit without going mad (this includes in water, where he kills himself without it being because of the town like it happenned to angela)
>S TIER
SH1 - SH2
>A TIER
SH3 - First half of SH4
>B TIER
Origins - Second Half of SH4
>C TIER
Homecoming
>D TIER
Downpour
>Not a Silent Hill Game TIER
Shattered Memories
My most sincere and honest opinion
>Reddit Hill in S tier
>filtered by the superior second half of SH4
>posts a troony coomer version of Reddit Head
fricking posers i swear...
oh my god shut the frick up about reddit already you internet addicted fool
then stop posting reddit games
I still own a PS2 to this day and have a copy of SH2. I don't like that game. Finished it on hard and remember almost all of it, yet i still don't like it.
Same. James was too much of a girly and fragile pussy and a total simp dog. Heather is way cuter and is a total giga Stacy
Not a fan of the in-game human models from 2, especially their eyes.
I'm a newer fan of the series, only getting into the series last year, and I genuinely don't get why people meme the post SH4 entries as being worthwhile. With zero nostalgia for the older entries I tried the post Team Silent entries with an open mind but they really are just not good games. I feel like nowadays I see people talk them up as underrated and it makes no sense to me, at best they're mediocre.
I like some things about Silent Hill Origins, despite its flaws. Like, for example, I think it mostly nails its original monster designs and the atmosphere.
Silent Hill Homecoming is kind of in the same vein, but only for its boss monster designs. And those aren't enough to make up for all its flaws.
Shattered Memories is just kind of, well, bad, but I do appreciate what they were trying to do with it.
Silent Hill Downpour just takes the cake for not being redeemable in anyway for me. I guess I kind of liked the Wheelchair dude? That's kind of it though.
I'd argue the side quests in Downpour were quite cool and had the franchise not died right after, I can see side quests becoming a recurrent thing in future SH games.
Piano puzzle was better.
Sex with Eileen
Choose
Cybil
Eileen
THAT FRICKING BRAT
Alessa is the hottest
God. I love Cybil so freaking much it's unreal. White American women written and designed by Japanese devs are the best
>includeslittle girls
>but no Dahlia
kys pedo
Burnt Alessa a cute.
I always thought Alessa was burnt head to toe, was i wrong? How much was she burnt if she was practically bed ridden her whole life
I need nude pictures of Heather.
Here you go.
When is this supposed to happen? Did they just make it solely for the gag reel credits?
I've always felt it was to counterbalance the horror and make it feel like it's a bunch of actors over the credits just to lighten the tension
Pic. related is Silent Hill 3's only saving grace.
Did you beat the game or did you use a guide
I had to look up the jelly bean key because there's a box right below it that makes Harry go
>nah nothing here
despite looking DIRECTLY at the bag of jelly beans on the shelf. Oh and the appendages puzzle
>appendages puzzle
I fricking hate that puzzle. I drew up a chart with the Zodiacs, tried to connect them and nothing made sense. I looked up the solution. Hurr durr count the legs. I've never felt more like a brainlet from such a stupidly simple puzzle.
That one's basically designed to red herring you into thinking it's about the Zodiac.
It's a really simple puzzle. Why do people get caught on this?
I randomly hit keys like a fricking caveman and am not ashamed to admit it
i did solve it as a 11 year old
Pretty sure I used one as a kid, but 15 years later after forgetting it completely I solved it myself.
ive played through 1 around 8 times and i still google this puzzle
>Female protagonist
No it's not
>filter "reddit hill" and 'reddit"
>thread is much better
Funny how that works.
>Heather. Did you...
>You don't have to call me that. I'm not hiding anymore
>You want me to use your real name? What was it again?
>Cheryl. The name my father gave me
Good ending
>Good ending
Not good enough.
I'll say it, 3 was my least favorite. Probably because I played it right after 2 and quickly got tired of checking locked doors, but it kinda sucks.
They added a melee parry thing, so I'm just constantly doing that to save ammo. The levels are all the worst ones, like a sewer area, construction site, office building, etc.
Also they killed my favorite character what the frick!
1>2>4>=3
I honestly can't pick between 3 and 4, 4 was pretty bad, but also partly because I played like a 'tard.
I just think that 3 is the most basic of all the games. It's so simple and straightforward. It's like SH1 but with level design that's slightly more annoying. That's why I like it the least of the four.
That seems like a fair assessment. I'm a sucker for those PS1 graphics too, so my rankings are slightly biased.
Really though I don't know how anyone can like some of the first 4 games and completely hate the others. I get not liking post-Team Silent games, but they're all fairly similar. I guess 2's the easiest, but are you really playing these for the challenge? Who knows.
>It started raining... Are you sleeping?
>I'm awake
>You cold?.... What's the deal with Silent Hill anyway? It used to be a nice, quiet little town, but now...
>You've been there?
>Once. On a missing person case. I never did find him. I'll tell ya, that's one screwed up town. In my line of work, you hear a lot of nasty rumors
Was Douglas talking about James there?
Yeah he was.
>Welcome to the Borley Haunted Mansion. We're so glad you came. Please come inside and look around. When you feel you are ready, then go through the door
>"Help... Help..." Do you hear those voices? A family of four was sliced into bloody pieces in this room. Ah, the cries of the children... The murderer was caught. Do you know why he said he killed his family? "Because I felt I had to!" Anyway, I'm lying. It's all just a joke. I wanted to scare you, that's all. The truth is that only one person died, by
suicide
>That's Danny. A quiet young man, but quite friendly, as you can
see. He was so eager to meet you. His hometown is New Orleans. But he came here after first losing his way. Oh, maybe you might know? Where is the path to heaven?
>This mansion is quite old. So please watch your step. Sometimes the floor suddenly gives away. And beneath the floor, there's nothing
>I'm so sorry. This place is just falling apart. The mechanism is broken, you see. It wasn't supposed to stop there, I assure you
>There's the exit. I hope you enjoyed your tour. Please come back anytime. Or if you'd prefer, we could come and visit you instead
>That was supposed to be the exit. But it seems that no one wants you to leave. Everyone really likes you. They want you to stay with them forever. I have to agree with them. Don't be afraid. Dying is much easier than living
SH 1 to 3 are almost interchangeable to me, they have different strengths and qualities, but the overall product in all 3 is really good, 4 comes after them due to some critical design issues, but at the same time, it has some elements that gives it a sweet spot in my mind like the Water prison world and the room mechanics.
The other games in the series are not really worth playing unless you really don't have something else to do, they are just forgettable and inconsequential.
Brookhaven is better in 3 than in 2. Stronger puzzles and otherworld.
Is that the place with the mirror room? Then yes, but it just barely edges out 2's elevator.
Weird how they didn't make an Xbox version like with 2 and 4.
Late 2002 magazine
Even 4 is better than 3. 2 wins by virtue of being one of the most solid instances of a team of people being able to execute their vision almost perfectly. 1 is pretty close behind 2 though. 3 was just a shitty sequel with quirky teenage girl protag. 4 had shitty retreading of older levels and the escort shit, but narrative wise it was more interesting than 3.
>almost perfectly
2 is far from perfect. They just didn't give much thought to the enemy variety/attacks, the Maria escort bit, and how much ammo/health should be avaliable.
>quirky teenage girl protag
What a soulless NPC tier garbage opinion.
>good game... BAD!!!!! you didnt see that coming huh????
This board is just embarrassing. And the worst thing is this is not some "newbie tourist" thing. It has always been like this. As a Gankerermin shitstain just playing a video game and talking about it is just haram.
>lying figure, mannequin, nurse (only carries a pipe), creeper, mandarin (extremely rare and almost harmless), smaller abstract daddy (only 4 at the hotel)
>numb body (small and big variants), closer, double head, pendulum, insane cancer, slurper, nurse (some carry pipes and others carry guns), scraper
non bosses enemies in 2 and 3. More variety in 3.
s sh1
a sh3
b shattered memes sh4
c origins
d downpoor
f homecoming
havent played tier book of memes
Sorry, forgot to add Reddit Hill 2 in S
reddit hill is a
>Wood Side/Blue Creek apartments : lying figures, mannequins, creepers (there are almost zero mannequins on Wood Side)
>Brookhaven hospital : nurses, mannequins
>Historical Society/Toluca Prison : lying figures
>Labyrinth : lying figures, mandarins (the area with the mandarins is optional)
>Lakeview hotel : lying figures, mannequins, abstract daddys, mandarins (only in 1 section)
>Baldwin mansion : lying figures, mannequins, creepers
I don't like SH2. So little enemy variety on the dungeons. Plus, the town exploration sections don't have any exclusive enemies like the town exploration sections in SH1.
Why didn't they bring the pterodactyls back?
Reddit Hill 3 sucks
troony Hill 4 even worse
what about chud hill 1 and moron hill 2
Reminder he's a russian subhuman
https://2c*.hk/v/res/8341205.html#8344513
not clicking that link Black person
SH threads ruined forever.
Zoomers should be shot on sight.
>chud hill 1
>reddit hill 2
>troony hill 3
>cuck hill 4
comedy gold